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 In a moment, Zoe will come up and read. We're in a series on 2 Samuel.

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 Just I thought it's good to say it's a very tough passage. It's a horrific passage.

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 There's sexual violence. There's murder.

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 Some of those really serious sins like physical violence, abuse.

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 And that can be very tough to listen to. Maybe it reminds people of things that have happened in the past.

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 But it's God's word and I hope we can listen and hear what God has to say to us.

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 But let's just pray.

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 Our Father, thank you that your word is living and active.

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 It's God-breathed.

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 But it can be tough to hear.

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 So we pray that you would speak to each one of us.

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 Many of us, we find this difficult to listen to.

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 Maybe some of us, there's things in the past and we feel ashamed or we've been hurt.

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 Or just these things are just show what a terrible world we live in.

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 Father, we pray that we would not be distracted, but we could hear you.

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 Would you speak to each one of our hearts?

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 I'm just a man.

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 I just say some words.

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 But by your spirit, would you speak words about the cross, about Jesus, about hope to each one of our hearts?

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 In Jesus' name we pray.

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 Amen.

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 Zoe.

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 2 Samuel chapter 13 we read.

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 Now Absalom, David's son, had a beautiful sister whose name was Tamar.

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 And after a time, Amnon, David's son, loved her.

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 And Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister Tamar.

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 For she was a virgin.

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 And it seemed impossible to Amnon to do anything to her.

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 But Amnon had a friend whose name was Jonadab, the son of Shimea, David's brother.

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 And Jonadab was a very crafty man.

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 And he said to him,

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 O son of the king, why are you so haggard morning after morning?

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 Will you not tell me?

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 Amnon said to him,

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 I love Tamar, my brother Absalom's sister.

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 Jonadab said to him,

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 Lie down on your bed and pretend to be ill.

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 And when your father comes to see you, say to him,

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 Let my sister Tamar come and give me bread to eat

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 and prepare the food in my sight that I may see it and eat it from her hand.

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 So Amnon lay down and pretended to be ill.

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 And when the king came to see him,

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 Amnon said to the king,

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 Please let my sister Tamar come and make a couple of cakes in my sight

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 that I may eat from her hand.

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 Then David sent home to Tamar, saying,

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 Go to your brother Amnon's house and prepare food for him.

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 So Tamar went to her brother Amnon's house where he was lying down.

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 And she took dough and kneaded it and made cakes in his sight and baked the cakes.

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 And she took the pan and emptied it out before him.

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 But he refused to eat.

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 And Amnon said,

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 Send out everyone from me.

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 So everyone went out from him.

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 Then Amnon said to Tamar,

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 Bring the food into the chamber that I may eat from your hand.

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 And Tamar took the cakes she had made and brought them into the chamber to Amnon, her brother.

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 But when she brought them near to him to eat,

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 he took hold of her hand and said to her,

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 Come, lie with me, my sister.

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 She answered him,

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 No, my brother, do not violate me,

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 for such a thing is not done in Israel.

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 Do not do this outrageous thing.

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 As for me, where could I carry my shame?

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 And as for you,

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 you would be as one of the outrageous fools in Israel.

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 Now therefore, please speak to the king,

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 for he will not withhold me from you.

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 But he would not listen to her.

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 And being stronger than she,

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 he violated her and lay with her.

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 Then Amnon hated her with very great hatred,

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 so that the hatred with which he hated her

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 was greater than the love which he had loved her.

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 And Amnon said to her,

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 Get up, go.

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 But she said to him,

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 No, my brother,

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 for this is wrong,

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 and sending me away is greater

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 than the other you did to me.

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 But he would not listen to her.

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 He called the young man who served him and said,

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 Put this woman out of my presence

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 and bolt the door after her.

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 Now she was wearing

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 a long robe with sleeves,

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 for thus were the virgin daughters of the king dressed.

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 So his servant put her out

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 and bolted the door after her.

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 And Tamar put ashes on her head

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 and tore the long robe that she wore.

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 And she laid her hand on her head

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 and went away,

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 crying aloud as she went.

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 And her brother Absalom said to her,

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 Has Amnon your brother been with you?

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 Now hold your peace, my sister.

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 He is your brother.

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 Do not take this to heart.

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 But so Tamar lived a desolate woman

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 in her brother Absalom's house.

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 When King David heard of all these things,

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 he was very angry.

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 But Absalom spoke to Amnon,

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 neither good nor bad,

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 for Absalom hated Amnon

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 because he had violated his sister Tamar.

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 After two full years,

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 Absalom had sheep shears at Balhazor,

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 which is near Ephraim.

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 And Absalom invited all the king's sons.

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 And Absalom came to the king and said,

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 Behold, your servant has sheep shears.

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 Please let the king and his servants

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 go with your servant.

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 But the king said to Absalom,

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 No, my son, let us not all go,

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 lest we be burdensome to you.

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 He pressed him, but he would not go,

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 but gave him his blessing.

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 Then Absalom said,

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 If not, please let my brother Amnon go with us.

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 And the king said to him,

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 Why should he go with you?

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 But Absalom pressed him

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 until he let Amnon and all the king's sons

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 go with him.

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 Then Absalom commanded his servants,

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 Mark when Amnon's heart is merry with wine,

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 and when I say to you,

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 Strike Amnon, then kill him.

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 Do not fear, have I not commanded you.

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 Be courageous and be valiant.

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 So the servants of Absalom

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 did to Amnon as Absalom had commanded.

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 Then all the king's sons arose

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 and each mounted his mule and fled.

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 While they were on the way,

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 news came to David,

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 Absalom has struck down all the king's sons

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 and not one of them is left.

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 Then the king arose and tore his garments

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 and lay on the earth.

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 And all his servants who were standing by

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 tore their garments.

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 For by the command of Absalom,

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 this has been determined

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 from the day he violated his sister Tamar.

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 But Jonadab, the son of Shimea,

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 David's brother, said,

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 Let not my lord suppose

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 that they have killed all the young men,

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 the king's sons,

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 for Amnon alone.

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 Now therefore,

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 let not my lord the king

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 so take it to heart

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 as to suppose

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 that all the king's sons are dead,

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 for Amnon alone is dead.

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 But Absalom fled,

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 and the young man

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 who kept the watch

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 lifted up his eyes

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 and looked,

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 and behold,

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 many people were coming

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 from the road behind him

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 by the side of the mountain.

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 And Jonadab said to the king,

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 Behold, the king's sons have come,

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 as your servant said,

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 so it has come about.

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 And as soon as he had finished speaking,

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 behold,

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 the king's sons came

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 and lifted their voice

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 and wept.

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 And the king also

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 and all his servants

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 wept bitterly.

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 But Absalom fled

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 and went to Talmai,

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 the son of Ammihad,

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 king of Geshur.

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 Then David mourned

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 for his son day after day.

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 So Absalom fled

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 and went to Geshur

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 and was there three years.

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 And the spirit of the king

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 longed to go out to Absalom

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 because he was comforted

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 he was comforted

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 about Amnon

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 since he was dead.

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 This is the word of God.

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 Great.

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 Thanks very much, Zoe.

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 Yeah, it's a really tough chapter.

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 Maybe you're visiting today

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 and you thought the Bible

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 was a nice book about love.

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 And then we have

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 this terrible chapter.

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 Many people object, right?

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 They think,

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 how can Christians

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 believe in the Bible?

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 How can you believe?

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 You say this is a holy book

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 and then it has

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 such terrible things.

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 How can this book

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 tell you how to live?

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 I mean, it's very obvious

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 that this is wrong, right?

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 The Bible doesn't say

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 that go and do likewise.

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 That's very clear.

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 No, the thing is,

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 the Bible is real.

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 The Bible tells us

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 what the world is like.

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 You look at the world

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 and that's where

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 these things happen, right?

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 There is rape.

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 There is murder.

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 There are terrible crimes.

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 There is violence and war, right?

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 The Bible isn't just

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 nice, fluffy philosophy.

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 And actually,

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 we need that, right?

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 We see the world.

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 We see everything happening.

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 And then the Bible

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 is just, you know,

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 kumbaya,

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 close your eyes,

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 find your inner peace,

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 and, you know,

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 let's just love one another.

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 And then you think,

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 this book has nothing

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 to say to me, right?

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 That's the thing.

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 I mean, imagine you're sick

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 and you're coughing

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 and you're coughing up blood.

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 So you go to the doctor

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 and the doctor says,

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 oh, you're fine.

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 You know,

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 you're the most healthiest person

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 I've ever seen.

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 You wouldn't go back

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 to that doctor, right?

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 He's got nothing to say to you, right?

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 You need someone

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 who actually tells you,

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 well, what's going on?

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 Of course,

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 you can watch the news

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 and read the papers

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 and then watch the TV

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 and then you will also see

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 what the world is like.

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 Of course,

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 why do we need the Bible?

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 The Bible tells us more.

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 It tells us why and how

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 and what God will do about it.

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 Right?

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 You go to another GP

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 and he does a lot of tests

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 and he says,

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 okay, I can see

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 that you're coughing up blood.

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 Yeah, I knew that.

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 What can we do about it?

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 Right?

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 What's going on?

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 That's what we need to know.

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 And that is why,

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 yeah, we need,

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 yeah, we need the Bible.

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 Why we need the rest

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 of 2 Samuel, actually.

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 Why the rest of 2 Samuel,

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 it's going to be pretty dark.

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 There's hope at the end.

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 But this,

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 but it tells us what it is.

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 I mean,

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 the thing is,

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 like 2 weeks ago,

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 I preached this,

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 you know,

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 sermon on chapters 8 to 10

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 and it was all so wonderful,

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 right?

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 The promised glorious kingdom

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 of justice and peace

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 and everything was so great

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 under this godly king

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 of steadfast love

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 and you kind of wonder,

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 couldn't we have finished there?

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 Right?

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 And David

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 and the people of Israel

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 and God lived happily ever after.

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 That would have been a nice book.

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 Except that

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 that's not

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 the real world,

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 right?

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 The people

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 who read this the first time

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 when it was finished later,

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 they knew the kingdom

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 didn't last.

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 It split,

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 it fell apart,

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 it was destroyed

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 and they were out in Babylon

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 enslaved

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 and they just wondered

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 what happened,

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 right?

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 Why are we here?

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 What's going to happen now?

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 What can be done?

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 And that is why it's good

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 that,

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 yeah,

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 the downfall of David

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 is here in the Bible.

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 That's why we have

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 the rest of 2 Samuel.

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 If you were here last week,

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 you will have heard

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 David,

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 wonderful king

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 and then,

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 well,

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 he committed adultery

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 and murder.

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 He is here

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 not a nice picture

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 of Jesus,

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 right?

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 He's not,

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 you know,

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 like David and Goliath.

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 No,

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 it tells us about

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 a big problem,

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 sin.

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 If you don't know

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 what sin is,

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 well,

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 sin is wrongdoing.

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 It's when we go

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 our own way

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 and do what we want

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 and break God's law,

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 don't do what he wants

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 us to live,

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 which of course

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 is good and right

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 and loving.

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 And it's terrible.

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 I mean,

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 the world says

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 sin doesn't matter.

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 Just do what you want

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 and it's fine.

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 And the Bible says,

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 no,

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 it's not.

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 It's what we're going

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 to see today.

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 Even as Christians,

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 I guess we know

00:12:09.379 --> 00:12:09.939
 sin is wrong,

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 but often we struggle,

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 right?

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 You know there's

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 something in your life,

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 there's some sin

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 but you know,

00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:16.779
 I'm so busy,

00:12:17.059 --> 00:12:17.659
 I've got so much

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 going on,

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 I don't really have

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 time to deal with this,

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 right?

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 Do we really have to?

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 One day I'll die

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 and then I'll be fine,

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 right?

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 Why should I do

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 something about this sin?

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 Well,

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 we need to listen

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 to God's word

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 that actually

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 sin really matters.

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 We can't just leave it

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 because I guess

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 the first point

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 that's so clear,

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 sin has terrible

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 consequences.

00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:42.480
 Sin has terrible

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 consequences.

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 It's that simple.

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 It's this hideous

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 chapter.

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 God is never

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 mentioned.

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 It's just godless.

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 It tells you that

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 sin is awful

00:12:51.340 --> 00:12:52.039
 and ugly

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 and has these

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 terrible consequences.

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 At first,

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 yeah,

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 it is a rape.

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 What's going on,

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 brother and sister?

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 I guess David,

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 he had about 13 wives

00:13:02.620 --> 00:13:03.939
 and so Amnon

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 was the son

00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:05.860
 of one wife

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 and then

00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:07.139
 Absalom

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 and Tamar

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 were children

00:13:08.980 --> 00:13:09.860
 of another wife

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 and yeah,

00:13:10.460 --> 00:13:10.779
 Amnon

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 lost it

00:13:11.659 --> 00:13:12.079
 after his

00:13:12.079 --> 00:13:12.779
 half-sister.

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 Friends come up

00:13:14.439 --> 00:13:15.139
 with some cunning

00:13:15.139 --> 00:13:15.959
 plan for getting

00:13:15.959 --> 00:13:16.600
 the two together

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 and yeah,

00:13:17.779 --> 00:13:18.659
 he puts it into action.

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 He pretends to be ill,

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 asks his dad,

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 hey,

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 can my sister come

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 and make food for me?

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 And so,

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 yeah,

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 David and those,

00:13:26.379 --> 00:13:26.639
 come on,

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 yeah,

00:13:26.939 --> 00:13:27.220
 sure,

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 why don't you make

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 some food for your

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 brother?

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 And so she goes there,

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 he sends all the

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 servants out,

00:13:33.959 --> 00:13:34.339
 hey,

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 can you feed it to me

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 while I lie in bed,

00:13:36.199 --> 00:13:36.899
 something like that.

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 And she has just no idea,

00:13:38.419 --> 00:13:38.579
 right?

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 She's just being a kind,

00:13:40.199 --> 00:13:40.799
 good sister.

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 But then,

00:13:42.719 --> 00:13:42.879
 yeah,

00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:43.939
 he grabs her

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 and come lie with me.

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 Verse 12,

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 she answered him,

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 no,

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 my brother,

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 do not violate me

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 for such a thing

00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.359
 is not done in Israel.

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 Do not do this

00:13:57.500 --> 00:13:58.519
 outrageous thing.

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 As for me,

00:13:59.839 --> 00:14:00.479
 where could I carry

00:14:00.479 --> 00:14:01.159
 my shame?

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 As for you,

00:14:02.339 --> 00:14:03.000
 you would be as one

00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:04.199
 of the outrageous fools

00:14:04.199 --> 00:14:04.899
 in Israel.

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 And ever,

00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:07.359
 please speak to the king

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 for he will not

00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:09.340
 withhold me from you.

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 But he would not

00:14:10.860 --> 00:14:11.620
 listen to her

00:14:11.620 --> 00:14:13.220
 being stronger than he.

00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:14.379
 He violates her

00:14:14.379 --> 00:14:16.019
 and lay with her.

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 And it's so sad,

00:14:18.580 --> 00:14:19.860
 just unexpected

00:14:19.860 --> 00:14:21.539
 and it suddenly happens

00:14:21.539 --> 00:14:23.820
 and he doesn't listen

00:14:23.820 --> 00:14:24.860
 and it just gets worse

00:14:24.860 --> 00:14:25.820
 that he hates her,

00:14:27.620 --> 00:14:28.779
 puts her out of the room,

00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:30.240
 bolts the door

00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:31.740
 and she's,

00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:32.120
 yeah,

00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:33.779
 and Tamar

00:14:33.779 --> 00:14:35.240
 put ashes on her head

00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.360
 and tore the long robe

00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:37.220
 that she wore

00:14:37.220 --> 00:14:38.779
 and she laid her hand

00:14:38.779 --> 00:14:39.399
 on her head

00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:40.480
 and went away

00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:42.440
 crying aloud

00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:43.800
 as she went.

00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:45.159
 Her brother finds her,

00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:46.399
 takes her in.

00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:48.120
 So Tamar lived,

00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:49.240
 a desolate woman

00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:51.039
 in her brother's

00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:51.899
 Epsilon's house.

00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:52.620
 Right,

00:14:52.659 --> 00:14:53.399
 the rest of her life

00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:53.960
 she's now,

00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:54.600
 yeah,

00:14:54.700 --> 00:14:55.820
 living with her brother.

00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:57.659
 It's terrible,

00:14:57.779 --> 00:14:57.899
 right?

00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:58.240
 I mean,

00:14:58.240 --> 00:14:59.300
 what is this story about?

00:14:59.480 --> 00:14:59.800
 Actually,

00:14:59.800 --> 00:15:00.620
 it's not about Amnon,

00:15:00.700 --> 00:15:00.879
 right?

00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:02.060
 It emphasizes

00:15:02.060 --> 00:15:03.899
 this poor girl

00:15:03.899 --> 00:15:05.079
 and what happened

00:15:05.079 --> 00:15:05.459
 to her,

00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:06.720
 how in just a few minutes

00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.279
 her life was ruined,

00:15:08.379 --> 00:15:09.500
 her life was destroyed

00:15:09.500 --> 00:15:11.059
 because of this guy,

00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:11.340
 right?

00:15:12.299 --> 00:15:13.379
 The Bible doesn't often

00:15:13.379 --> 00:15:14.759
 talk about sexual violence,

00:15:14.899 --> 00:15:15.819
 it's very restrained,

00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:17.000
 there's no details at all,

00:15:17.699 --> 00:15:18.299
 but I hope you can,

00:15:19.179 --> 00:15:20.559
 it makes your blood boil,

00:15:20.659 --> 00:15:20.860
 right?

00:15:21.439 --> 00:15:22.379
 This is terrible,

00:15:22.500 --> 00:15:23.600
 this is utterly wrong,

00:15:23.699 --> 00:15:24.480
 it's hideous,

00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.340
 the language of violation,

00:15:26.620 --> 00:15:27.899
 it's outrageous,

00:15:28.579 --> 00:15:29.179
 the pain,

00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:29.919
 the crying,

00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:33.539
 it's so strongly condemned

00:15:33.539 --> 00:15:35.719
 and maybe you're here

00:15:35.719 --> 00:15:36.379
 and actually maybe

00:15:36.379 --> 00:15:37.039
 something like this

00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:37.599
 happened to you

00:15:37.599 --> 00:15:38.179
 in the past.

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 I have no idea

00:15:41.419 --> 00:15:42.000
 what that's like,

00:15:42.079 --> 00:15:44.000
 but I hope you feel

00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.639
 that it's an outrageous,

00:15:46.939 --> 00:15:47.419
 terrible thing

00:15:47.419 --> 00:15:48.179
 that happened to you,

00:15:48.500 --> 00:15:49.599
 that's what the passage says,

00:15:49.819 --> 00:15:51.360
 it's the shame,

00:15:51.479 --> 00:15:51.879
 the hurt,

00:15:52.059 --> 00:15:52.979
 God knows,

00:15:53.079 --> 00:15:53.819
 God understands

00:15:53.819 --> 00:15:54.879
 and you had nothing

00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:55.659
 to do with it

00:15:55.659 --> 00:15:56.699
 and it just happened

00:15:56.699 --> 00:15:57.120
 to you

00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:58.779
 and God wants you

00:15:58.779 --> 00:15:59.779
 to know that he knows,

00:15:59.779 --> 00:16:00.459
 he cares

00:16:00.459 --> 00:16:02.579
 and all the past

00:16:02.579 --> 00:16:03.139
 and shame

00:16:03.139 --> 00:16:04.120
 he's taken care of

00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:04.759
 through Jesus

00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:06.839
 and he will bring justice

00:16:06.839 --> 00:16:08.799
 to what happened to you.

00:16:10.699 --> 00:16:11.480
 God wants you

00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:12.100
 to know that

00:16:12.100 --> 00:16:14.199
 or maybe something like this,

00:16:14.319 --> 00:16:15.480
 actually maybe something like this

00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:16.319
 is happening to you,

00:16:16.839 --> 00:16:17.120
 you know,

00:16:17.319 --> 00:16:18.519
 it's a regular thing now,

00:16:19.299 --> 00:16:19.759
 I don't know,

00:16:19.939 --> 00:16:20.620
 work,

00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:21.439
 family,

00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:21.939
 I don't know,

00:16:22.779 --> 00:16:23.519
 someone you know

00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:25.679
 using force

00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:26.980
 to control you,

00:16:27.139 --> 00:16:28.720
 to make you do things

00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:29.480
 you don't want to do,

00:16:30.199 --> 00:16:31.220
 doesn't have to be sexual,

00:16:31.319 --> 00:16:32.379
 it could be any kind of abuse,

00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:35.220
 I hope you see

00:16:35.220 --> 00:16:35.639
 that this is,

00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:36.179
 that's wrong,

00:16:37.199 --> 00:16:38.059
 you need support,

00:16:38.819 --> 00:16:39.720
 you need to talk

00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:40.639
 to someone about it

00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:41.759
 and actually

00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:42.379
 if maybe,

00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:43.819
 I don't know all of you,

00:16:43.899 --> 00:16:44.579
 maybe there is something

00:16:44.579 --> 00:16:45.000
 happening,

00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:46.339
 thank you,

00:16:49.059 --> 00:16:50.220
 God,

00:16:50.579 --> 00:16:52.299
 God is really against you

00:16:52.299 --> 00:16:52.779
 if you're doing

00:16:52.779 --> 00:16:53.339
 any of this

00:16:53.339 --> 00:16:54.259
 and you need to

00:16:54.259 --> 00:16:55.059
 repent

00:16:55.059 --> 00:16:56.779
 or you'll be condemned

00:16:56.779 --> 00:16:57.699
 forever.

00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:03.819
 It's not the main point

00:17:03.819 --> 00:17:04.339
 of the passage

00:17:04.339 --> 00:17:05.419
 but it just needs to be said

00:17:05.419 --> 00:17:06.000
 because we don't

00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.700
 say it often enough

00:17:07.700 --> 00:17:09.539
 and the second half

00:17:09.539 --> 00:17:10.319
 is no better,

00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:10.659
 right?

00:17:10.660 --> 00:17:11.700
 Absalom,

00:17:11.840 --> 00:17:12.800
 he now hates Amnon

00:17:12.800 --> 00:17:14.000
 because of what he did

00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.000
 and he waits two years

00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:17.000
 and he plans

00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.279
 and then,

00:17:18.500 --> 00:17:18.640
 yeah,

00:17:18.700 --> 00:17:19.740
 he organizes a party

00:17:19.740 --> 00:17:21.019
 and invites the royal family,

00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:21.759
 David,

00:17:21.940 --> 00:17:23.200
 can you come to my party?

00:17:23.800 --> 00:17:23.960
 Yeah,

00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:24.160
 sorry,

00:17:24.259 --> 00:17:24.600
 I'm busy,

00:17:24.700 --> 00:17:25.400
 I can't come.

00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:26.140
 Of course,

00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:27.680
 Absalom knew that exactly

00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:28.920
 because that was the whole plan.

00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:29.860
 Well,

00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:30.740
 can Amnon come then?

00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:31.100
 Well,

00:17:31.800 --> 00:17:32.840
 does he have to?

00:17:32.940 --> 00:17:33.080
 Well,

00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:33.540
 please,

00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:34.140
 okay.

00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:35.060
 So,

00:17:35.120 --> 00:17:36.480
 Amnon goes to the party,

00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:38.300
 verse 28,

00:17:39.460 --> 00:17:40.680
 then Absalom commissioned

00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:41.440
 his servants,

00:17:42.540 --> 00:17:43.820
 Mark when Amnon's heart

00:17:43.820 --> 00:17:44.900
 is merry with wine

00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:46.500
 and when I say to you,

00:17:46.560 --> 00:17:47.240
 strike Amnon,

00:17:47.800 --> 00:17:48.660
 then kill him.

00:17:49.740 --> 00:17:50.560
 Do not fear.

00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:52.120
 Have I not commanded you?

00:17:52.740 --> 00:17:53.340
 Be courageous

00:17:53.340 --> 00:17:54.140
 and be valiant.

00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:59.180
 It's a cowardly,

00:17:59.280 --> 00:18:00.080
 deliberate murder

00:18:00.080 --> 00:18:01.519
 and you can hear

00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:02.519
 all the responses,

00:18:02.700 --> 00:18:02.860
 right?

00:18:03.840 --> 00:18:04.600
 Verse 31,

00:18:04.740 --> 00:18:05.940
 that the king arose

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 and tore his garments

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 and lay on the earth

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 and all his servants

00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:11.560
 who were standing by

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 tore their garments.

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 Later,

00:18:15.560 --> 00:18:16.400
 verse 36,

00:18:16.460 --> 00:18:17.800
 and as soon as he'd finished speaking,

00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:18.259
 behold,

00:18:18.360 --> 00:18:19.540
 the king's sons came

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 and lifted up their voices

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 and wept

00:18:22.080 --> 00:18:23.700
 and the king also

00:18:23.700 --> 00:18:24.780
 and all his servants

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 wept very bitterly

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 and the king mourned

00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:28.139
 day after day.

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 That terrible,

00:18:30.220 --> 00:18:30.819
 the weeping,

00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:31.519
 the mourning

00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.279
 because a favored son

00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:34.039
 had been killed.

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 I mean,

00:18:35.420 --> 00:18:36.000
 both parts,

00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:37.180
 it's such an awful picture,

00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:37.460
 right?

00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:39.000
 It emphasizes how wicked

00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:39.839
 these acts are,

00:18:39.940 --> 00:18:41.220
 the terrible consequences,

00:18:41.460 --> 00:18:42.960
 this poor girl

00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:44.220
 mourning for the rest

00:18:44.220 --> 00:18:44.779
 of her life,

00:18:44.859 --> 00:18:45.960
 this family

00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:47.420
 with a dead son

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 and so dysfunctional.

00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:50.480
 what a terrible world.

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 The thing is,

00:18:53.460 --> 00:18:54.259
 these are not

00:18:54.259 --> 00:18:55.500
 isolated incidents.

00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:56.960
 They don't come

00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:57.640
 from nowhere.

00:18:58.779 --> 00:19:00.220
 They have consequences,

00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:00.920
 but actually,

00:19:01.579 --> 00:19:02.500
 the sins themselves

00:19:02.500 --> 00:19:03.559
 are consequences.

00:19:04.380 --> 00:19:04.539
 I mean,

00:19:04.579 --> 00:19:05.740
 where do they come from?

00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:07.680
 They come from

00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:08.500
 David's sin

00:19:08.500 --> 00:19:09.180
 last week.

00:19:10.339 --> 00:19:10.740
 Right?

00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:11.360
 Because that is

00:19:11.360 --> 00:19:12.180
 what happened.

00:19:12.339 --> 00:19:12.620
 David,

00:19:12.980 --> 00:19:14.360
 he saw a beautiful woman

00:19:14.360 --> 00:19:15.000
 and took her,

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 even though she was married

00:19:15.859 --> 00:19:16.439
 already,

00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:18.379
 had her husband murdered

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 and then God confronted him

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 and warned him

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 of the terrible consequences.

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 And what did he say

00:19:24.719 --> 00:19:25.699
 in chapter 12?

00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:26.639
 Well,

00:19:26.719 --> 00:19:27.759
 you've killed Uriah

00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:28.619
 with the sword

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 and so,

00:19:29.719 --> 00:19:30.219
 verse 10,

00:19:31.399 --> 00:19:32.319
 now the sword

00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:33.219
 will never depart

00:19:33.219 --> 00:19:34.079
 from your house.

00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:36.000
 And there will be violence

00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:36.539
 and death

00:19:36.539 --> 00:19:37.339
 in your family

00:19:37.339 --> 00:19:38.699
 as a result.

00:19:38.819 --> 00:19:39.279
 And in a way,

00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:40.439
 that is what's happening now,

00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:40.679
 right?

00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:41.539
 That is what we see

00:19:41.539 --> 00:19:42.399
 in chapter 13.

00:19:42.959 --> 00:19:43.419
 In a way,

00:19:43.740 --> 00:19:44.439
 you even see it

00:19:44.439 --> 00:19:45.500
 from the sins themselves.

00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:47.240
 Because what do

00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:48.199
 these two sons do?

00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:48.899
 It's basically

00:19:48.899 --> 00:19:49.740
 the same sins

00:19:49.740 --> 00:19:50.299
 as their father,

00:19:50.379 --> 00:19:50.519
 right?

00:19:51.179 --> 00:19:51.619
 David,

00:19:52.339 --> 00:19:53.079
 there was a woman

00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:53.919
 and he wanted her

00:19:53.919 --> 00:19:54.859
 but he couldn't have her,

00:19:55.259 --> 00:19:55.879
 took her anyway

00:19:55.879 --> 00:19:57.079
 and then he had

00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:57.679
 someone murdered.

00:19:58.639 --> 00:19:59.579
 What do we see here?

00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:01.479
 Exactly the same thing.

00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:02.539
 Right?

00:20:02.899 --> 00:20:03.659
 This is like

00:20:03.659 --> 00:20:04.759
 father like son.

00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:07.039
 It's very clear.

00:20:07.199 --> 00:20:08.839
 It's all for David's sin.

00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:09.240
 It's just,

00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:09.959
 you know,

00:20:10.399 --> 00:20:11.119
 here's David,

00:20:11.639 --> 00:20:12.919
 he influenced his sons

00:20:12.919 --> 00:20:14.059
 and his sons

00:20:14.059 --> 00:20:14.859
 did the same thing

00:20:14.859 --> 00:20:15.219
 as him.

00:20:15.859 --> 00:20:17.319
 As a consequence of sin.

00:20:17.399 --> 00:20:18.299
 It seems a bit weird.

00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:20.039
 Usually we think

00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:20.859
 of the consequences

00:20:20.859 --> 00:20:21.879
 of sin as suffering.

00:20:23.179 --> 00:20:23.979
 But one consequence

00:20:23.979 --> 00:20:24.599
 of sin

00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:25.240
 is just

00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:26.299
 more sin

00:20:26.299 --> 00:20:28.119
 and more suffering.

00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:29.479
 Right?

00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:30.559
 That's what we see here.

00:20:30.859 --> 00:20:32.159
 These are not lovely boys

00:20:32.159 --> 00:20:33.899
 and it's awful, right?

00:20:33.919 --> 00:20:34.659
 Look at these chapters

00:20:34.659 --> 00:20:35.500
 and it's not just

00:20:35.500 --> 00:20:36.259
 for the boys,

00:20:36.859 --> 00:20:37.339
 their sons.

00:20:37.459 --> 00:20:38.019
 It's a threat

00:20:38.019 --> 00:20:38.679
 to the kingdom.

00:20:39.439 --> 00:20:40.179
 Because David

00:20:40.179 --> 00:20:40.839
 is the king.

00:20:40.919 --> 00:20:42.079
 This is the royal family.

00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:45.079
 And in chapter 14,

00:20:45.179 --> 00:20:46.119
 Absalom is going to grow

00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:46.919
 really bitter.

00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:48.240
 Chapter 15,

00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:49.259
 he plots to get rid

00:20:49.259 --> 00:20:49.740
 of David.

00:20:50.199 --> 00:20:51.099
 We get a coup.

00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:52.579
 We get a civil war.

00:20:53.379 --> 00:20:54.159
 All of that

00:20:54.159 --> 00:20:56.439
 just from David's sin.

00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:57.519
 Right?

00:20:57.639 --> 00:20:59.159
 It threatens all God's people.

00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:00.879
 It's very clear, right?

00:21:00.939 --> 00:21:01.199
 David,

00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:02.839
 sin affects

00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:04.119
 so many people

00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:04.720
 around you.

00:21:04.980 --> 00:21:05.639
 Many people think,

00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:05.779
 oh,

00:21:05.779 --> 00:21:06.379
 it doesn't matter.

00:21:06.380 --> 00:21:08.060
 I can decide

00:21:08.060 --> 00:21:08.860
 how I live, right?

00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:09.720
 That's just my thing.

00:21:10.080 --> 00:21:11.260
 It doesn't affect others.

00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:12.180
 No.

00:21:12.820 --> 00:21:12.960
 Right?

00:21:13.060 --> 00:21:13.680
 David's sin

00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:14.740
 affected his sons

00:21:14.740 --> 00:21:15.400
 and then the rest

00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:16.040
 of his family

00:21:16.040 --> 00:21:17.060
 and the whole nation.

00:21:17.800 --> 00:21:18.520
 And maybe you're not

00:21:18.520 --> 00:21:18.940
 the king,

00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:20.040
 but, you know,

00:21:20.300 --> 00:21:20.980
 it will affect

00:21:20.980 --> 00:21:21.700
 those around you.

00:21:21.760 --> 00:21:22.300
 It will affect

00:21:22.300 --> 00:21:22.920
 your family.

00:21:23.600 --> 00:21:24.340
 Sin affects

00:21:24.340 --> 00:21:25.480
 everything,

00:21:25.780 --> 00:21:26.260
 but especially

00:21:26.260 --> 00:21:27.420
 the higher up you are.

00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:28.640
 Right?

00:21:28.660 --> 00:21:29.960
 If you're a company CEO

00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:31.940
 and you cheat

00:21:31.940 --> 00:21:32.640
 or whatever.

00:21:33.940 --> 00:21:35.180
 Do you see sin

00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:35.860
 as that serious?

00:21:36.820 --> 00:21:36.940
 Right?

00:21:37.040 --> 00:21:37.880
 Do you see this

00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:38.480
 and think,

00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:38.800
 wow,

00:21:39.740 --> 00:21:40.920
 I'm not living God's way,

00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:41.860
 living our own way,

00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:42.740
 doing what we want.

00:21:42.840 --> 00:21:44.080
 It's terrible.

00:21:44.700 --> 00:21:45.680
 We're not all as bad

00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:46.340
 at this, right?

00:21:47.040 --> 00:21:47.580
 Don't think there's

00:21:47.580 --> 00:21:48.260
 many rapists

00:21:48.260 --> 00:21:49.080
 and murderers here.

00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:50.580
 Although then again,

00:21:50.660 --> 00:21:51.200
 Jesus says,

00:21:51.280 --> 00:21:51.640
 well, actually,

00:21:52.220 --> 00:21:52.660
 in some way,

00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:53.440
 we're all like that, right?

00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:54.520
 You hate someone

00:21:54.520 --> 00:21:55.180
 in your heart.

00:21:55.540 --> 00:21:56.000
 Jesus says,

00:21:56.100 --> 00:21:56.620
 well, it's like you've

00:21:56.620 --> 00:21:57.300
 already murdered them

00:21:57.300 --> 00:21:57.980
 in your heart, right?

00:21:58.880 --> 00:21:59.160
 In a way,

00:21:59.220 --> 00:21:59.840
 none of us are

00:21:59.840 --> 00:22:01.320
 what we should be.

00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:03.300
 But sin is this serious?

00:22:03.980 --> 00:22:04.080
 Right?

00:22:04.180 --> 00:22:05.500
 Do we believe that?

00:22:05.500 --> 00:22:07.079
 That it's so awful

00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:08.720
 and it leads to suffering

00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.079
 and we shouldn't downplay it

00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:11.700
 and, oh,

00:22:11.740 --> 00:22:12.700
 Jesus took care of it.

00:22:12.740 --> 00:22:13.900
 Don't worry about it anymore.

00:22:14.779 --> 00:22:15.539
 Sin is awful.

00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:17.960
 I guess it makes you

00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:19.119
 want to stay away from sin,

00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:19.259
 right?

00:22:19.299 --> 00:22:19.980
 Maybe this week

00:22:19.980 --> 00:22:21.160
 you're tempted.

00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.740
 You're tempted to watch something

00:22:23.740 --> 00:22:24.680
 that you shouldn't watch,

00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:25.759
 tempted to do something

00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:26.519
 you shouldn't do

00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:27.559
 and you're kind of,

00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:28.160
 you're weighing it up

00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.039
 in your mind.

00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:29.720
 What shall I do?

00:22:30.940 --> 00:22:32.079
 Let this chapter tell you

00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:32.759
 don't do it

00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:34.960
 and be afraid

00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:36.139
 of the consequences.

00:22:36.399 --> 00:22:36.539
 I mean,

00:22:36.740 --> 00:22:37.899
 ideally we don't want to sin

00:22:37.899 --> 00:22:39.220
 because we love Jesus so much.

00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:42.920
 But that's not a reality

00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:43.680
 for most of us.

00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:45.180
 We need maybe

00:22:45.180 --> 00:22:46.359
 more basic motivations.

00:22:47.139 --> 00:22:48.000
 Look at the terrible

00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:49.180
 consequences, right?

00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:52.200
 God knows your sin.

00:22:52.500 --> 00:22:53.440
 You can't hide it.

00:22:54.940 --> 00:22:55.639
 Don't do it.

00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:57.740
 The only thing is,

00:22:57.860 --> 00:22:58.160
 of course,

00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:59.000
 we are sinners, right?

00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:00.500
 Just telling us not to sin

00:23:00.500 --> 00:23:01.320
 is not going to work.

00:23:05.040 --> 00:23:05.400
 Actually,

00:23:05.600 --> 00:23:06.800
 this chapter

00:23:06.800 --> 00:23:07.759
 has more to say,

00:23:08.020 --> 00:23:08.220
 right?

00:23:09.300 --> 00:23:09.920
 Stopping sinning

00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:10.780
 is not a solution.

00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:11.240
 Rather,

00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:12.780
 there's a deeper point.

00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:14.360
 Sin has terrible consequences

00:23:14.360 --> 00:23:15.460
 but not always.

00:23:16.540 --> 00:23:17.100
 When not?

00:23:18.060 --> 00:23:18.420
 Well,

00:23:18.560 --> 00:23:19.820
 when is sin so terrible?

00:23:20.420 --> 00:23:22.200
 If it is not dealt with.

00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:23.180
 Second point.

00:23:23.280 --> 00:23:23.980
 Sin is terrible

00:23:23.980 --> 00:23:26.059
 if it's not dealt with.

00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:27.759
 If it's not dealt with,

00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:28.480
 it will grow,

00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:29.880
 it will fester,

00:23:30.360 --> 00:23:31.920
 it will cause more damage.

00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:33.819
 And that is the problem

00:23:33.819 --> 00:23:34.579
 here with David.

00:23:35.620 --> 00:23:36.860
 Because how does

00:23:36.860 --> 00:23:38.120
 all this play out?

00:23:39.259 --> 00:23:39.460
 Well,

00:23:39.500 --> 00:23:40.860
 David doesn't do very much.

00:23:41.140 --> 00:23:41.460
 So,

00:23:42.860 --> 00:23:43.620
 after the rape,

00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:44.759
 verse 21.

00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:46.640
 When King David

00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:47.960
 heard of all these things,

00:23:48.120 --> 00:23:49.099
 he was very angry.

00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:51.400
 But Absalom spoke to Amnon.

00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:53.039
 That's all David did.

00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:53.399
 David,

00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:54.779
 he was very angry.

00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.139
 Now,

00:23:57.180 --> 00:23:57.619
 that's good,

00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:58.740
 but you'd expect

00:23:58.740 --> 00:23:59.299
 a bit more,

00:23:59.379 --> 00:23:59.559
 right?

00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:01.200
 He was a rapist.

00:24:01.299 --> 00:24:01.940
 He deserves

00:24:01.940 --> 00:24:02.759
 the death penalty.

00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:03.759
 He's the king.

00:24:03.859 --> 00:24:05.000
 He should bring justice

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.079
 and righteousness.

00:24:06.859 --> 00:24:08.039
 This guy should be executed.

00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:09.940
 But David

00:24:09.940 --> 00:24:10.700
 doesn't do anything.

00:24:10.819 --> 00:24:11.460
 He's just angry,

00:24:11.899 --> 00:24:13.139
 but he doesn't do anything.

00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:14.639
 Right?

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:15.159
 Maybe,

00:24:15.339 --> 00:24:15.819
 probably because

00:24:15.819 --> 00:24:16.720
 it's his favorite son

00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:17.799
 and he doesn't want to do anything

00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:19.099
 to his favorite son.

00:24:19.099 --> 00:24:21.219
 If he had done something,

00:24:21.339 --> 00:24:21.939
 then that murder

00:24:21.939 --> 00:24:22.639
 wouldn't have happened

00:24:22.639 --> 00:24:24.240
 and all the rebellion

00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:24.740
 after that,

00:24:24.779 --> 00:24:25.359
 all of those things

00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:26.099
 wouldn't have happened.

00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:27.459
 But David

00:24:27.459 --> 00:24:28.740
 didn't do anything.

00:24:29.699 --> 00:24:29.939
 So,

00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:30.819
 Absalom took matters

00:24:30.819 --> 00:24:31.480
 in his own hands.

00:24:32.439 --> 00:24:32.879
 Afterwards,

00:24:33.019 --> 00:24:33.179
 yeah,

00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:34.559
 after Absalom's murder,

00:24:34.679 --> 00:24:35.599
 Absalom runs away,

00:24:35.779 --> 00:24:35.959
 right?

00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:37.159
 He flees to his mother's

00:24:37.159 --> 00:24:37.919
 family abroad.

00:24:39.159 --> 00:24:40.219
 And what does David do?

00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:41.500
 He does nothing.

00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:43.559
 It's not very clear,

00:24:43.679 --> 00:24:44.539
 verse 39,

00:24:44.639 --> 00:24:45.759
 the spirit of the king

00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:47.039
 longed to go out

00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:47.639
 to Absalom.

00:24:48.980 --> 00:24:49.379
 Yeah,

00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:50.319
 to go out to do what?

00:24:50.379 --> 00:24:50.919
 To reconcile

00:24:50.919 --> 00:24:52.299
 or to get him

00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:52.859
 and arrest him?

00:24:52.899 --> 00:24:53.519
 That's not clear,

00:24:53.619 --> 00:24:55.299
 but you read chapter 14.

00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:55.519
 Well,

00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:56.440
 David does,

00:24:56.879 --> 00:24:58.639
 he's really fallen out

00:24:58.639 --> 00:24:59.179
 with Absalom.

00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:00.000
 But again,

00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:01.059
 he doesn't do anything.

00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:02.220
 I mean,

00:25:02.220 --> 00:25:03.259
 he could have shown mercy,

00:25:03.679 --> 00:25:03.919
 right?

00:25:04.460 --> 00:25:04.859
 Absalom,

00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:05.679
 I'm really sorry.

00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:06.779
 I should have done something

00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:07.619
 after what happened

00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:08.139
 to Tamar.

00:25:08.419 --> 00:25:09.079
 I didn't.

00:25:09.539 --> 00:25:09.759
 So,

00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:10.839
 even though it was vengeance,

00:25:11.259 --> 00:25:11.440
 hey,

00:25:11.539 --> 00:25:12.179
 I forgive you.

00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:13.740
 The rest wouldn't

00:25:13.740 --> 00:25:14.220
 have happened.

00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:15.380
 Or,

00:25:15.740 --> 00:25:16.400
 he could have said,

00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:16.680
 yeah,

00:25:17.100 --> 00:25:17.500
 sorry,

00:25:17.820 --> 00:25:19.200
 I know what Emlyn did

00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:19.620
 was wrong.

00:25:20.060 --> 00:25:21.060
 You can't take vengeance.

00:25:22.600 --> 00:25:23.700
 He should have done something.

00:25:23.779 --> 00:25:24.600
 He didn't do anything.

00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:26.900
 In chapter 14,

00:25:27.120 --> 00:25:28.140
 we didn't read it,

00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:29.019
 but basically,

00:25:29.820 --> 00:25:31.259
 David keeps doing nothing.

00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:32.560
 Right?

00:25:32.620 --> 00:25:32.779
 I mean,

00:25:32.820 --> 00:25:33.519
 chapter 14,

00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:34.259
 it ends

00:25:34.259 --> 00:25:36.060
 with the return of Absalom.

00:25:36.060 --> 00:25:37.320
 All the way at the end,

00:25:37.420 --> 00:25:38.120
 verse 33,

00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:40.580
 then Joab went to the king

00:25:40.580 --> 00:25:41.420
 and told him,

00:25:41.420 --> 00:25:42.779
 and he summoned Absalom.

00:25:43.300 --> 00:25:43.600
 So,

00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:44.539
 he came to the king

00:25:44.539 --> 00:25:45.380
 and bowed himself

00:25:45.380 --> 00:25:46.560
 with his face to the ground

00:25:46.560 --> 00:25:47.300
 before the king

00:25:47.300 --> 00:25:48.980
 and the king kissed Absalom.

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:49.740
 It looks,

00:25:49.900 --> 00:25:50.019
 okay,

00:25:50.120 --> 00:25:50.820
 Absalom is back,

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:51.360
 it's all fine,

00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:51.840
 but it's not.

00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.039
 This chapter covers five years

00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.920
 and Absalom and David,

00:25:58.060 --> 00:25:58.640
 they don't speak.

00:25:58.779 --> 00:25:59.759
 Absalom is hiding.

00:26:01.220 --> 00:26:01.660
 Joab,

00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:03.380
 the general of David,

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:04.660
 he sees that as a problem,

00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:04.940
 right?

00:26:05.600 --> 00:26:06.800
 It's not good for the kingdom

00:26:06.800 --> 00:26:07.860
 if the heir of the kingdom

00:26:07.860 --> 00:26:08.759
 is somewhere else

00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.579
 and what if something happens

00:26:10.579 --> 00:26:11.039
 to David?

00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:11.279
 So,

00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.180
 he tries to get David

00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:14.940
 to accept Absalom again,

00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:17.119
 but David doesn't want that,

00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:18.920
 so Joab does some scheme.

00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:20.160
 Basically,

00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:21.379
 it's a bit like Nathan the prophet.

00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:22.299
 He sends some woman

00:26:22.299 --> 00:26:23.279
 to come up with a story

00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.500
 and this woman comes to David

00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:25.940
 and says,

00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:26.200
 oh,

00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:26.940
 king,

00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:27.839
 I've got this problem,

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:28.940
 I have two sons

00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:30.539
 and one killed the other

00:26:30.539 --> 00:26:31.819
 and he fled away

00:26:31.819 --> 00:26:33.319
 and now I don't have an heir.

00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:34.460
 Okay,

00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:35.599
 I understand the problem,

00:26:35.700 --> 00:26:36.400
 he can come back.

00:26:36.840 --> 00:26:37.880
 Nothing will happen to him,

00:26:37.940 --> 00:26:38.320
 you swear,

00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:39.800
 nothing will happen to him.

00:26:40.600 --> 00:26:40.720
 Oh,

00:26:40.740 --> 00:26:41.140
 but king,

00:26:41.280 --> 00:26:42.320
 you have two sons

00:26:42.320 --> 00:26:44.519
 and one of them killed the other

00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:45.080
 and he's,

00:26:45.700 --> 00:26:45.940
 hmm,

00:26:46.840 --> 00:26:47.840
 did Joab send you?

00:26:49.120 --> 00:26:49.480
 Oh,

00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:49.880
 king,

00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:50.759
 you're so wise,

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:51.080
 yes,

00:26:51.180 --> 00:26:51.400
 yes.

00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:52.259
 Okay,

00:26:52.560 --> 00:26:54.180
 tell Joab Absalom can come back.

00:26:54.840 --> 00:26:57.040
 But David needs to be persuaded

00:26:57.040 --> 00:26:57.920
 and even then,

00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:00.620
 he doesn't actually have Absalom back

00:27:00.620 --> 00:27:01.720
 because Joab is happy,

00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:03.080
 brings back Absalom,

00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:05.480
 but then 14 verse 24,

00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.200
 and the king said,

00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:09.519
 let him dwell apart in his own house.

00:27:10.059 --> 00:27:12.000
 He's not to come into my presence.

00:27:13.420 --> 00:27:13.779
 Yeah,

00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:14.660
 I don't want to see him.

00:27:15.059 --> 00:27:15.480
 He's back,

00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:16.779
 but I won't see him.

00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:19.120
 And so Absalom lives in Jerusalem

00:27:19.120 --> 00:27:19.839
 for two years

00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.440
 and he grows more and more bitter.

00:27:22.259 --> 00:27:23.299
 And verse 32,

00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:27.279
 why have I come from Geshur?

00:27:27.579 --> 00:27:29.360
 It will be better for me to be there still.

00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:29.539
 Now,

00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:29.759
 therefore,

00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.500
 let me go into the presence of the king.

00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:32.740
 If there's guilt in me,

00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:33.819
 let him put me to death.

00:27:33.819 --> 00:27:34.539
 Right?

00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:36.119
 Do something,

00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:36.419
 David,

00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:37.099
 and either,

00:27:37.740 --> 00:27:38.099
 yeah,

00:27:38.259 --> 00:27:39.200
 either forgive me

00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:40.480
 or if I've done something,

00:27:40.879 --> 00:27:41.200
 kill me,

00:27:41.259 --> 00:27:41.960
 but do something.

00:27:42.059 --> 00:27:43.000
 Don't leave it like this.

00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:44.579
 But that's the whole problem.

00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:45.779
 Right?

00:27:46.539 --> 00:27:47.159
 So for,

00:27:47.679 --> 00:27:48.159
 in the whole,

00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:48.679
 all of this,

00:27:48.740 --> 00:27:49.399
 these two chapters,

00:27:49.539 --> 00:27:50.379
 David is passive.

00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:51.839
 He does nothing.

00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:52.919
 For seven years,

00:27:53.299 --> 00:27:54.419
 all we read about him

00:27:54.419 --> 00:27:55.480
 is that he sits on the throne

00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.759
 and people push him

00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:58.599
 and those kind of things.

00:27:58.679 --> 00:27:59.599
 He does nothing

00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:01.000
 about the sin,

00:28:01.539 --> 00:28:02.679
 about the consequences.

00:28:03.259 --> 00:28:04.359
 He just sits there.

00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:05.819
 And that's the frustration.

00:28:06.919 --> 00:28:08.199
 And I think that's the point,

00:28:08.259 --> 00:28:08.379
 right?

00:28:08.419 --> 00:28:11.059
 And that's why David nearly loses the kingdom

00:28:11.059 --> 00:28:12.699
 because Absalom,

00:28:12.939 --> 00:28:13.879
 he's grown too bitter.

00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:15.759
 He will plot a rebellion.

00:28:16.899 --> 00:28:19.319
 It's not just his sin with David and Bathsheba.

00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:20.439
 Yeah,

00:28:20.539 --> 00:28:22.179
 he initially repented

00:28:22.179 --> 00:28:24.219
 and he was forgiven,

00:28:24.339 --> 00:28:25.819
 but his heart was not yet right.

00:28:26.459 --> 00:28:26.599
 Right?

00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:27.500
 You can see that his heart

00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:28.359
 isn't what it should be.

00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.480
 He doesn't have the same view of sin anymore

00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:32.559
 that he used to have.

00:28:33.179 --> 00:28:33.939
 He leaves it.

00:28:34.419 --> 00:28:36.819
 I'm not saying I know what he has to do,

00:28:36.939 --> 00:28:38.579
 justice or mercy for Absalom,

00:28:38.939 --> 00:28:40.279
 but he had to do something,

00:28:40.379 --> 00:28:41.240
 but he did nothing.

00:28:42.179 --> 00:28:43.539
 And it festered

00:28:43.539 --> 00:28:45.059
 and it grew worse and worse

00:28:45.059 --> 00:28:46.039
 and here's the result.

00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:48.799
 I think the message is clear, right?

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.399
 Sin needs dealing with.

00:28:52.419 --> 00:28:52.740
 Sin,

00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:54.480
 you can't just leave it.

00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:56.299
 It will just get worse.

00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:57.980
 You need to do something,

00:28:58.059 --> 00:28:59.619
 either with mercy or with justice,

00:28:59.740 --> 00:29:01.339
 but something needs to be done about it

00:29:01.339 --> 00:29:02.740
 or it will just get worse.

00:29:03.399 --> 00:29:03.519
 Right?

00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:04.980
 And that's the rest of the book.

00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.199
 God is going to deal with David's sin.

00:29:07.639 --> 00:29:08.919
 He is going to deal with his heart

00:29:08.919 --> 00:29:10.059
 and he's going to suffer.

00:29:10.699 --> 00:29:12.059
 But this chapter says why.

00:29:12.500 --> 00:29:13.559
 Look at what happens

00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:14.639
 if you don't do anything.

00:29:16.059 --> 00:29:18.959
 It's a bit like some of those advertisements

00:29:18.959 --> 00:29:20.459
 you sometimes see on the MTR

00:29:20.459 --> 00:29:22.199
 and they want to tell people,

00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:23.159
 don't do drugs,

00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:24.099
 stop doing drugs.

00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:25.039
 Right?

00:29:25.139 --> 00:29:27.299
 You see an addict lying in the gutter

00:29:27.299 --> 00:29:28.819
 and basically the message is

00:29:28.819 --> 00:29:29.740
 you don't want this, right?

00:29:30.539 --> 00:29:31.759
 So stop it.

00:29:31.959 --> 00:29:33.000
 Do something about it.

00:29:33.919 --> 00:29:34.859
 Something needs to be done

00:29:34.859 --> 00:29:36.359
 and that is this chapter, right?

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:37.740
 You know,

00:29:38.259 --> 00:29:39.819
 sin needs to be dealt with.

00:29:40.419 --> 00:29:41.219
 Illegal drugs,

00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.279
 they're terrible.

00:29:42.399 --> 00:29:43.059
 Don't do anything.

00:29:43.539 --> 00:29:44.480
 Sin is terrible.

00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:46.379
 Deal with it.

00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:48.440
 On a human level,

00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:49.440
 I think we know that, right?

00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:51.640
 If there's a conflict in a marriage

00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.020
 or in a church or something,

00:29:54.320 --> 00:29:54.520
 well,

00:29:54.660 --> 00:29:55.580
 if you just leave it

00:29:55.580 --> 00:29:56.740
 and you don't talk about it,

00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:58.540
 it will just get worse, right?

00:29:59.140 --> 00:29:59.760
 It will just,

00:29:59.900 --> 00:30:00.940
 people will grow bitter,

00:30:01.080 --> 00:30:01.700
 it will just get worse.

00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:02.600
 You need to do something.

00:30:02.700 --> 00:30:03.540
 Either forgive

00:30:03.540 --> 00:30:04.960
 or confront

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:06.740
 but do something about it

00:30:06.740 --> 00:30:07.720
 or it will just get worse.

00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:08.820
 Right?

00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:11.059
 That's an obvious application.

00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:12.240
 Yeah?

00:30:13.399 --> 00:30:14.919
 I know that's hard

00:30:14.919 --> 00:30:17.980
 but leaving it is worse.

00:30:19.339 --> 00:30:19.779
 Parenting.

00:30:20.659 --> 00:30:21.460
 I think it's very easy

00:30:21.460 --> 00:30:22.619
 to be like David, right?

00:30:22.659 --> 00:30:23.759
 Your child does something wrong

00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:25.480
 and the only thing you do

00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:26.279
 is be angry

00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.139
 and you shout

00:30:27.139 --> 00:30:27.659
 and that's it.

00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:29.439
 You don't actually discipline.

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:30.859
 You don't actually talk about it.

00:30:31.700 --> 00:30:32.419
 Well, this chapter says

00:30:32.419 --> 00:30:33.059
 what's going to happen

00:30:33.059 --> 00:30:33.980
 is just going to get worse.

00:30:34.659 --> 00:30:35.359
 You need to actually

00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:36.720
 do something about it, right?

00:30:37.419 --> 00:30:38.259
 That's difficult.

00:30:38.259 --> 00:30:39.980
 It's easier to just shout

00:30:39.980 --> 00:30:40.740
 and leave it

00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:43.339
 but you need to do something

00:30:43.339 --> 00:30:44.680
 otherwise it will just get worse.

00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:47.140
 But I think ultimately

00:30:47.140 --> 00:30:47.819
 this chapter

00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:50.220
 is not on a human level, right?

00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:52.379
 Think about the original readers.

00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:53.680
 Why did the kingdom fall?

00:30:53.859 --> 00:30:56.759
 Why does God need to restore it?

00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.900
 Well, because sin needs to be dealt with.

00:30:59.980 --> 00:31:01.140
 There's no other way.

00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:01.940
 Look what happens

00:31:01.940 --> 00:31:03.299
 if sin is not dealt with.

00:31:04.539 --> 00:31:05.420
 So I guess that's,

00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:06.940
 you want to accept that, right?

00:31:08.259 --> 00:31:09.819
 You can see from this chapter,

00:31:09.940 --> 00:31:11.180
 man, sin needs dealing with.

00:31:11.220 --> 00:31:12.240
 You can't just leave it.

00:31:13.619 --> 00:31:14.799
 You need to do something.

00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:16.240
 God needs to do something.

00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.579
 Again, you go to another GP

00:31:18.579 --> 00:31:20.180
 and finally he tells you,

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:21.259
 well, this is wrong with you

00:31:21.259 --> 00:31:23.799
 and the prognosis is not good

00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.539
 but you can do this medicine

00:31:25.539 --> 00:31:28.000
 or we can do this surgery

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.000
 and that will solve it.

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:30.119
 And you don't want that

00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:32.740
 but yeah, you listen to the prognosis.

00:31:32.740 --> 00:31:35.359
 Okay, I want to do something about it.

00:31:35.579 --> 00:31:35.720
 Right?

00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:37.240
 Okay, yeah, I accept it.

00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:38.200
 We need to do something.

00:31:39.180 --> 00:31:40.359
 And I think that's the point here.

00:31:41.099 --> 00:31:43.539
 Accept that God needs to deal with your sin.

00:31:44.859 --> 00:31:46.819
 I guess that can happen in different ways, right?

00:31:47.579 --> 00:31:48.980
 I guess one obvious way.

00:31:49.940 --> 00:31:52.019
 Accept it when God addresses your sin.

00:31:53.059 --> 00:31:53.200
 Right?

00:31:53.299 --> 00:31:54.859
 God, he loves us.

00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:56.299
 He wants us to change.

00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.620
 He doesn't want us to leave us like this.

00:31:59.200 --> 00:31:59.839
 But the thing is,

00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:00.699
 we need to change.

00:32:00.819 --> 00:32:01.899
 We don't just need forgiveness.

00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:03.720
 We need heart change.

00:32:04.659 --> 00:32:06.599
 And so God will speak to us.

00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.099
 God will address us.

00:32:09.139 --> 00:32:11.199
 So maybe you're reading your Bible every day

00:32:11.199 --> 00:32:12.939
 and the same sin just keeps coming up.

00:32:14.159 --> 00:32:15.059
 What do you do?

00:32:15.679 --> 00:32:16.799
 It's easy to close your Bible

00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:17.519
 and don't listen.

00:32:19.179 --> 00:32:21.480
 Or maybe someone in your CG speaks to you

00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.119
 because they've noticed something in your life

00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:25.480
 and they want to talk to you about it.

00:32:26.959 --> 00:32:28.459
 I guess if you see this chapter,

00:32:28.459 --> 00:32:29.699
 you think, man, okay,

00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.139
 I know this is hard

00:32:31.139 --> 00:32:32.720
 and I know I'm too busy.

00:32:32.980 --> 00:32:34.179
 I don't really have time,

00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.759
 but man, sin needs dealing with, right?

00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:37.619
 So I want to listen.

00:32:38.159 --> 00:32:39.240
 I want to be humble.

00:32:39.919 --> 00:32:42.119
 I want to seek repentance and change

00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.019
 because this really matters, right?

00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:45.859
 You can accept it.

00:32:45.919 --> 00:32:47.059
 Sin needs to be dealt with.

00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.419
 Accept it when God disciplines our sin.

00:32:51.619 --> 00:32:51.859
 Right?

00:32:51.939 --> 00:32:52.919
 Sometimes we don't listen

00:32:52.919 --> 00:32:55.139
 and so God has to mess up our life a bit.

00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.299
 He has to make us feel the consequences

00:32:57.299 --> 00:32:58.960
 so that we will hopefully turn away.

00:32:59.960 --> 00:33:00.940
 It's easy to get bitter.

00:33:01.059 --> 00:33:02.579
 God, why are you messing on my life?

00:33:03.379 --> 00:33:04.480
 That's for a good thing, right?

00:33:04.539 --> 00:33:06.299
 God wants to turn you from your sin.

00:33:06.879 --> 00:33:10.180
 He wants you to be free from this.

00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:11.519
 He wants you to come back to him.

00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:13.639
 So that's what he's doing.

00:33:14.639 --> 00:33:15.480
 Will you listen?

00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:16.819
 Will you accept it and listen?

00:33:16.819 --> 00:33:19.559
 Though ultimately, thirdly,

00:33:20.579 --> 00:33:21.839
 if people don't listen,

00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.259
 accept it when God judges sin.

00:33:26.379 --> 00:33:26.539
 Right?

00:33:26.619 --> 00:33:28.299
 Sin needs dealing with

00:33:28.299 --> 00:33:29.119
 and God,

00:33:29.419 --> 00:33:31.259
 he's not going to leave the world as it is.

00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.839
 He's not going to leave any of our sin as it is.

00:33:35.460 --> 00:33:36.519
 Same with Absalom.

00:33:36.939 --> 00:33:38.460
 I mean, Amnon got what he deserved.

00:33:39.439 --> 00:33:40.799
 Absalom is going to be punished.

00:33:41.819 --> 00:33:42.899
 It's a tough truth.

00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:43.879
 Right?

00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:44.299
 Judgment.

00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:45.439
 We don't like it.

00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:46.940
 It's sobering.

00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:49.640
 It is embarrassing to talk about,

00:33:49.700 --> 00:33:51.380
 but we have to accept it, right?

00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:52.799
 Because you see chapter 13,

00:33:53.180 --> 00:33:53.680
 and again,

00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:55.259
 you want something to be done.

00:33:55.840 --> 00:33:55.960
 Right?

00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.019
 You see what happened to Tamar

00:33:59.019 --> 00:34:00.100
 and you want justice.

00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:01.200
 Right?

00:34:01.340 --> 00:34:03.019
 You want it.

00:34:03.080 --> 00:34:04.960
 We know the world needs to change.

00:34:05.100 --> 00:34:06.980
 And for God to just leave the world as it is,

00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:08.000
 all the sin,

00:34:08.059 --> 00:34:08.720
 all the violence,

00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:09.539
 and just leave it,

00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:10.599
 that'd be wrong.

00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:12.400
 And so God is going to do something.

00:34:12.539 --> 00:34:12.880
 But yeah,

00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:14.300
 the thing is,

00:34:14.300 --> 00:34:16.000
 it affects all of us.

00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:18.420
 All of us hurt other people.

00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:19.260
 No,

00:34:19.340 --> 00:34:21.019
 we're not as bad as these guys,

00:34:21.120 --> 00:34:22.560
 but in so many ways,

00:34:22.680 --> 00:34:23.760
 we hurt other people.

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:24.980
 And so I just read this.

00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:26.220
 Oh yeah,

00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:27.280
 I deserve judgment.

00:34:27.660 --> 00:34:28.880
 We all deserve judgment.

00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:30.920
 And that is the problem,

00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:31.160
 right?

00:34:31.200 --> 00:34:32.840
 Because we know judgment is good.

00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:33.740
 We can see it here.

00:34:34.160 --> 00:34:35.220
 It needs to happen.

00:34:36.500 --> 00:34:37.420
 At the same time,

00:34:37.620 --> 00:34:38.680
 we want mercy.

00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:39.700
 How can we have that?

00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:41.699
 How,

00:34:41.939 --> 00:34:44.319
 because some people asked me that last week.

00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:45.460
 You know,

00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.239
 it seems so easy for David.

00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:48.639
 He was forgiven.

00:34:48.799 --> 00:34:50.359
 Shouldn't he be punished for what he's done?

00:34:52.279 --> 00:34:52.719
 Well,

00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:53.239
 the thing is,

00:34:53.359 --> 00:34:54.199
 on a human level,

00:34:54.319 --> 00:34:56.019
 a human king can only do one thing.

00:34:56.279 --> 00:34:58.039
 David could show mercy or judgment,

00:34:58.599 --> 00:34:59.899
 but not both.

00:34:59.900 --> 00:35:03.280
 But God did something amazing.

00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.539
 He sent his son to die on the cross.

00:35:07.680 --> 00:35:09.000
 And actually he,

00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:10.039
 as we've been singing,

00:35:10.180 --> 00:35:13.340
 he took the judgment that we deserved.

00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.480
 Our sin was judged.

00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.200
 Justice was served.

00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:19.680
 But it fell on Jesus.

00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.039
 And that is how the cross works.

00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.920
 The cross is not just a symbol that God loves you.

00:35:25.780 --> 00:35:26.860
 Something happened there.

00:35:26.860 --> 00:35:28.360
 Our sin was judged,

00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:29.579
 punished,

00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:30.460
 crushed.

00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.400
 And that is what we need.

00:35:32.500 --> 00:35:33.860
 So sin happens.

00:35:33.980 --> 00:35:34.940
 And God is just

00:35:34.940 --> 00:35:36.700
 and merciful.

00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:37.780
 Sin is punished,

00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:38.880
 but we get mercy.

00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.099
 That is the beauty of the cross.

00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:42.000
 And we need that,

00:35:42.059 --> 00:35:42.200
 right?

00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:42.960
 If you're here,

00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:44.380
 and you're not a Christian,

00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:44.980
 you're visiting,

00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:48.599
 I hope you see how serious sin is.

00:35:48.660 --> 00:35:50.000
 And that judgment needs to happen.

00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.059
 But,

00:35:51.579 --> 00:35:52.920
 what are you going to do with your sin?

00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:54.340
 And Jesus says,

00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:55.039
 come to me.

00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:56.860
 I'll pay for it.

00:35:56.860 --> 00:35:58.440
 I'll take care of it.

00:35:58.500 --> 00:35:59.380
 I'll deal with it.

00:35:59.900 --> 00:36:00.660
 Come to me,

00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:02.120
 and be free.

00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:03.880
 And if you have that,

00:36:04.380 --> 00:36:05.220
 as we just sang,

00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:05.440
 right?

00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:05.820
 Jesus,

00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:06.420
 thank you.

00:36:07.640 --> 00:36:08.980
 It doesn't make you thankful.

00:36:10.200 --> 00:36:10.579
 Yes,

00:36:10.740 --> 00:36:12.539
 our heart still needs dealing with.

00:36:13.059 --> 00:36:14.579
 God needs to address our sin.

00:36:14.660 --> 00:36:17.480
 And sometimes we will face the consequences of our sin.

00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:21.079
 Our sinful decisions and terrible things happen to us.

00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.380
 But how about the eternal,

00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.460
 huge judgment consequences of our sin?

00:36:28.279 --> 00:36:29.619
 They've been taken care of.

00:36:29.819 --> 00:36:31.099
 Jesus took that for us.

00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:33.360
 And that makes you so thankful,

00:36:33.500 --> 00:36:33.639
 right?

00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:35.380
 And then you can listen to God.

00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:37.019
 You can,

00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:38.719
 if God wants to deal with your sin,

00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:40.139
 if he wants to address you,

00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:40.900
 you will listen to him,

00:36:40.940 --> 00:36:41.059
 right?

00:36:41.059 --> 00:36:42.059
 Because you can trust him.

00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:43.179
 Because he loved you so much.

00:36:43.539 --> 00:36:44.480
 He did this for you.

00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.860
 And not just us here,

00:36:46.900 --> 00:36:47.079
 right?

00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:49.340
 There's many people outside,

00:36:49.500 --> 00:36:50.860
 and Hong Kong has lots of problems,

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:51.099
 right?

00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:51.900
 People are hopeless,

00:36:52.099 --> 00:36:52.659
 and unemployed,

00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:53.380
 and stressed,

00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:54.300
 and overworked.

00:36:55.139 --> 00:36:55.960
 Biggest problem,

00:36:57.300 --> 00:36:57.940
 they're sinners,

00:36:58.139 --> 00:36:59.960
 and God is going to come and deal with sin.

00:37:00.900 --> 00:37:01.219
 And then,

00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:01.480
 yeah,

00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:03.599
 the only way for them to have mercy,

00:37:04.219 --> 00:37:05.440
 is if they hear about Jesus,

00:37:05.539 --> 00:37:06.300
 and respond to him.

00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:07.659
 Hey,

00:37:07.659 --> 00:37:08.820
 isn't that worth sharing?

00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:10.119
 Again,

00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:11.699
 this is not a comfortable passage.

00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:12.760
 It's not an easy passage.

00:37:12.940 --> 00:37:13.440
 It's dark.

00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:14.940
 It's bad news.

00:37:15.619 --> 00:37:16.860
 But that should lead us,

00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:17.700
 to the good news.

00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.380
 So let's just reflect for 30 seconds,

00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:22.760
 and then I'll pray,

00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.500
 as the music team comes up.

00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:58.720
 Let's pray.

00:37:58.720 --> 00:37:59.059
 Father,

00:37:59.059 --> 00:38:01.179
 Father,

00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:02.179
 we see this chapter,

00:38:02.780 --> 00:38:04.840
 and we see that the world is not what it should be.

00:38:05.220 --> 00:38:06.559
 We are not what we should be.

00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.239
 And we know that's a problem.

00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.019
 We see that's something you need to deal with.

00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:13.759
 Thank you that you are good and just,

00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:15.920
 and you will deal with sin.

00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.779
 But thank you so much that you did that on the cross,

00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:21.739
 for those who trust in Jesus.

00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:22.579
 And if we come,

00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:24.759
 if we trust in him,

00:38:25.860 --> 00:38:26.119
 yeah,

00:38:26.539 --> 00:38:28.840
 we will not face what we deserve.

00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:30.660
 Make us thankful.

00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.059
 Make us joyful,

00:38:33.220 --> 00:38:33.460
 even,

00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.500
 that this terrible thing has been dealt with,

00:38:36.579 --> 00:38:38.539
 that you are now working in our lives,

00:38:38.660 --> 00:38:39.360
 to change us,

00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:41.039
 to turn us away from sin,

00:38:41.700 --> 00:38:42.519
 in your love.

00:38:42.980 --> 00:38:44.519
 Help us to see your love,

00:38:44.600 --> 00:38:46.340
 in the midst of this darkness,

00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:47.579
 that we would turn to you.

00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:49.380
 In Jesus' name.

00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:50.059
 Amen.

00:38:50.059 --> 00:38:50.140
 Amen.

00:38:50.680 --> 00:38:51.059
 Amen.

00:38:51.059 --> 00:38:52.059
 Amen.

00:38:52.059 --> 00:38:52.140
 Amen.

00:38:52.140 --> 00:38:52.200
 Amen.

00:38:52.200 --> 00:38:52.300
 Amen.

00:38:52.300 --> 00:38:52.320
 Amen.

00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:52.340
 Amen.

00:38:52.340 --> 00:38:52.860
 Amen.

00:38:52.860 --> 00:38:52.900
 Amen.

00:38:52.900 --> 00:38:52.920
 Amen.

00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:52.940
 Amen.

00:38:52.940 --> 00:38:52.980
 Amen.

00:38:52.980 --> 00:38:53.019
 Amen.

00:38:53.019 --> 00:38:53.059
 Amen.