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 I was thinking about it, and I've been a Christian for almost 20 years.

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 I became a Christian right around age 21 and 40, so I suppose technically 19 years.

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 And if I look back over that period of time and all that has happened,

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 there is one consistent nagging question that has undoubtedly been the greatest source of doubt for me in my faith.

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 And yes, pastors are full of doubt sometimes, maybe even more so than other people.

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 And there's been one central cause behind most of my doubt, and that's the question of suffering, what we call theodicy.

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 Basically put this question of how, if God is all good and all powerful, can there be such suffering and evil and injustice in the world?

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 I have wrung my hands and stayed up late many nights wondering about that question.

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 And if you just quickly scan the headlines, you know, I did this on Friday.

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 I just kind of went and said, you know, what are the highlight headlines in the news?

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 Here's what I saw at like a three-minute glance.

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 Back-to-back hurricanes wreaking havoc, killing people and destroying homes and entire communities.

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 A bomb explosion in the London Underground.

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 North Korea menacingly firing missiles over Japan.

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 White nationalist rallies happening around the country.

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 That's just a three-minute scan.

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 And then I started thinking about the lives of people I know.

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 I mean, people right here in our own community.

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 Right now in our community, there are people struggling with loneliness,

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 with unwanted, unchosen singleness, or with marital strife, facing unemployment or impending unemployment.

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 People who are struggling because they are homesick.

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 People who are struggling because of challenges trying to parent their children.

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 Or maybe their kids are sick.

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 People facing sickness themselves.

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 People grieving the recent death of dear immediate family, loved ones.

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 I mean, all of this is happening right now.

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 And that's just a tiny sliver of what's going on in our greater community.

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 And so if you think about that, you realize that if you're a Christian and you have any integrity at all,

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 in a world like this, you have to face really tough questions.

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 You cannot be a Christian in a world like ours and not have to wrestle with very tough questions like this one.

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 The good news is we are not the first people to ask these questions.

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 And in fact, God's people have been asking these questions for thousands of years.

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 And if you look in the Bible, there's probably no one who asks hard questions with more brutal honesty than a man named Habakkuk.

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 He's one of the prophets.

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 You can find him in the Old Testament.

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 And Habakkuk, it's a short book, but it's packed with incredibly profound and unique writing.

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 Habakkuk is unique among the prophets that we see in the Bible for one major reason.

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 Most prophets follow a similar formula.

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 You have God, and then the prophet is aligned with God.

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 And the prophet, on behalf of God, is questioning the people.

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 Right? So the prophet speaks for God, and the prophet questions God's people.

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 Why do you go on sinning?

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 Why don't you come and repent?

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 Why don't you trust and put your faith in the Lord?

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 Why are you abandoning the Lord your God?

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 And this is the sort of central prophetic message that you see again and again and again.

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 Well, Habakkuk is different.

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 Habakkuk is not questioning God's people.

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 Habakkuk is actually aligning himself with God's people,

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 and Habakkuk is questioning God on their behalf.

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 And it's a very intense dialogue that we see unfold here.

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 And through all of this questioning of God, the pushback, the doubt,

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 somehow Habakkuk remains faithful.

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 So we're going to ask, how is that possible?

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 What do we have to learn from this amazing little book?

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 So we're going to be spending the next few weeks in a series called,

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 How Long, O Lord?

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 Asking this question together.

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 And tonight we really come to understand doubt

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 and the role that doubt plays in our faith.

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 So Habakkuk chapter 1 is going to show us a couple of things.

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 First, the doubt in our faith.

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 And then secondly, the promise in our pain.

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 The promise that is embedded deeply in the pain and suffering of the world.

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 So let's pray together as we get started.

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 Our Father, we thank you for your word,

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 and we thank you that sometimes your word is clear and makes sense,

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 and sometimes it's very hard to understand,

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 or it says things that we don't want to hear.

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 But we know that all of it is good and profitable,

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 and by the power of your Holy Spirit can equip us

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 and mature us and nourish us in ways that we cannot find anywhere else.

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 And so we come hungry and thirsty and open-hearted, Lord,

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 by the power of your Spirit to receive your word today.

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 We pray this in your Son's holy name. Amen.

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 So Habakkuk chapter 1, it really begins with a bang.

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 I mean, he dives right in.

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 There's no introduction.

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 He just gets right to it.

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 Brass-tax kind of guy.

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 But let me just give you a little bit of information about Habakkuk.

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 We don't know a whole lot about him.

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 He's one of what we call the minor prophets.

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 Now, don't let that make you think that he's less important.

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 You know, read the major prophets,

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 but the minor prophets are less important.

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 That's not what it's talking about.

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 Minor prophets simply means shorter in length.

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 So you have Isaiah, Jeremiah.

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 They're very long.

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 The minor prophets are a lot shorter.

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 Habakkuk's only three chapters.

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 So it's like book-length prophets versus blog-length prophets

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 is maybe a better way to think of it.

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 And Habakkuk is an interesting word name.

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 It's Akkadian.

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 And quite frankly, scholars can't agree on how to pronounce it.

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 And so I'm going to say Habakkuk.

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 Some people say Habakkuk.

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 The traditional Hebrew way of saying it is Habakkuk.

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 I tried that in the mirror,

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 and I just couldn't do it with a straight face.

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 Every time I did it, I would laugh.

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 And so I'm just not, I can't do that.

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 I'm not a speaker of Hebrew.

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 And so I'm just going to say Habakkuk,

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 for lack of a better option.

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 We don't know a lot about him personally,

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 but I think his words immediately resonate.

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 Just listen to how he opens his writing here.

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 The first four verses are Habakkuk talking to God.

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 And then verses 5 through 11 are God's response.

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 And then verse 12 through the end of the chapter, verse 17,

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 that's Habakkuk responding back to God's response.

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 So that's how it, you know, Habakkuk, God, Habakkuk.

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 That's how it goes.

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 So here's how it opens up.

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 Habakkuk says this to God.

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 Oh Lord, how long shall I cry for help,

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 and you will not hear?

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 Now is there anybody who has not said that?

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 How long will I cry for help, and you will not hear?

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 Or cry to you, violence!

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 Violence!

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 And you will not save.

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 You know, as I said before,

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 I think this is a question for the ages.

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 God, if you're all good and all powerful,

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 how can you look at what's happening to me, to us,

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 and not do anything about it?

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 Where are you?

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 And then God, as I said, answers in verses 5 through 11.

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 We'll look at that more in a little bit,

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 but suffice it to say,

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 it is not what Habakkuk expects at all.

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 It just makes things worse.

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 And so after that, in verse 13,

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 listen to what Habakkuk goes on to say.

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 He says in verse 13,

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 you who are of purer eyes than to see evil,

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 and cannot look at wrong,

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 why do you idly look at traitors,

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 and remain silent when the wicked swallows up the man

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 more righteous than he?

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 So what's he saying there?

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 I mean, he's kind of being honest, right?

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 God, I know we're not perfect.

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 I know we deserve some judgment.

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 You know, nobody's saying we're perfect,

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 but they are way worse than us.

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 He's talking about the Chaldeans.

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 This is one of the words in the Bible for the Babylonians.

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 If you know anything about the Babylonians,

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 they were, as God himself says,

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 cruel and vicious and wicked and bloodthirsty.

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 They didn't even know or care about the God of the Bible.

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 They worshipped their own strength.

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 And Habakkuk is saying,

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 you know, we don't have our act together.

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 We've got some ways we need to shape up,

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 but we're nothing like them.

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 And then he says,

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 how do you dare to be a God who hates evil,

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 who claims to love goodness and justice?

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 You claim to love us,

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 and yet you're going to let them sweep across the world,

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 take us captive like a man would put sand into a jar.

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 And you've got to hear the desperation in his voice.

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 You know, at the core of his questioning of God,

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 Habakkuk is zeroing in on a disconnect that he perceives

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 between what God has revealed

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 and his lived experience.

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 That's the disconnect.

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 Right?

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 God, you say you're good,

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 and yet you seem to tolerate evil just fine.

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 God, you say you care about justice,

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 and yet we're drowning in injustice.

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 God, you say that you love us,

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 but from where I'm looking,

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 it seems like you've abandoned us.

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 God, you say,

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 help us understand.

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 That's the core of chapter one.

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 So you might say,

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 he's expressing some doubt, right?

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 So I want to stop there and just ask,

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 what are we meant to make of this?

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 Why is this in Scripture to begin with?

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 And I think it shows us a couple of things

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 just before we move on.

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 I want to focus a little bit on the implications of this.

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 The first thing it shows us is this.

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 It shows us that doubt is extremely important.

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 That in fact, for believers,

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 I think doubt is extremely valuable.

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 It's valuable.

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 Not only does God allow Habakkuk to doubt him,

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 right, these are some of the strongest words

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 leveled at God anywhere in the Bible.

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 I mean, he is towing the line of direct accusation.

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 God not only allows him to do that,

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 but then God takes this writing

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 and he places it in his canon.

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 This is holy inspired Scripture, right?

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 This is meant to be profitable

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 for our growth.

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 And this is, I think,

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 a clear sign

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 that doubt is meant to be

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 integral to a healthy,

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 maturing faith.

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 Right?

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 So, you know,

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 you can't really get this

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 unless you look at the whole book.

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 And sometimes, you know,

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 week to week, sermon by sermon,

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 we can lose the forest for the trees.

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 But if you look at the whole scope of Habakkuk,

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 commentators will say

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 that it's not just a book on doubt.

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 It's partly that.

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 But I think one of the best commentators out there

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 is a guy named Palmer Robertson.

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 And he says this.

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 He says,

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 Remarkably,

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 the reader is allowed

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 the unique privilege

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 of witnessing the progress

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 of the prophet himself

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 in submitting to a new concept

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 of the Lord's purposes

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 among Israel and the nations.

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 The idea of growth

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 or maturing in faith

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 is essential to appreciating

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 the genius of this prophecy.

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 You hear what he's saying?

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 This isn't just about doubt.

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 As he expresses doubt,

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 we get to see Habakkuk grow

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 and mature

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 because he's doing that.

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 And if you look at the book,

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 Habakkuk begins in sorrow,

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 but you know how it ends?

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 In song.

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 The whole third chapter

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 is a song of praise.

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 Now, some of you grew up

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 in religious homes

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 and you grew up

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 or religious churches

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 where the culture

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 was very much about

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 accept what you've been taught

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 and don't ask questions.

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 And if you asked hard questions,

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 well, this seems to be

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 an inconsistency

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 and how do we understand this?

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 And these two books

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 seem to contradict each other.

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 You know, people,

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 parents or pastors

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 would say,

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 don't ask questions.

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 Faith means just accepting

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 even if you don't understand.

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 Right?

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 And so some of us were taught

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 that if you ask questions

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 or have doubts

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 and express those,

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 that means you have

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 a weak faith.

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 Well, I think that Habakkuk

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 shows us the exact opposite

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 is true.

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 That in fact,

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 not asking questions

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 means you have

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 a weak faith.

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 Because what that shows you

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 is that your faith

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 is like this really

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 delicate house of cards,

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 this sand castle,

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 this glass sculpture

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 and that you have to

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 protect it

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 from even a strong wind

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 that might knock it over.

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 That's a weak faith.

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 A strong faith

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 is a faith

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 that can hold up

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 even in the storm,

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 even when everything

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 is breaking loose

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 and things are falling apart.

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 A strong faith

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 is that kind of faith

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 that can be amassed

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 in the storm

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 that you can cling to.

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 How do you get that?

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 You have to weather

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 a few storms.

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 It has to be challenged.

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 So we're not called

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 to have a blind faith.

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 We're called to have

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 a bold faith.

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 Boldly facing doubt.

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 Boldly asking hard questions.

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 So that then begs

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 the next question

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 which is okay,

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 well how do we get

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 that kind of faith?

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 How does doubt

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 lead to that kind of faith?

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 And I would say

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 we need to look at Habakkuk

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 and what he's actually doing

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 with his doubt.

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 What's he doing

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 with all these questions?

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 Is he hiding them?

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 Is he going off

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 and complaining

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 to other people about them?

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 I can't believe.

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 Can you believe what he's,

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 you know.

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 No, he's coming directly

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 to God with them.

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 In prayer.

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 He's wrestling with God

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 over questions

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 that he has about God.

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 Right?

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 He's falling on his knees

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 before him.

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 And what we've got to understand

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 is that, I mean,

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 verse 12 is the giveaway

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 that really shows us

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 his posture.

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 He says,

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 even in the midst

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 of his frustration

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 and his anger,

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 he says,

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 O Lord, my God.

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 My Holy One.

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 Right?

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 So this isn't a man

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 who's standing back

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 from God saying,

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 you better explain all this

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 or I, you know,

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 I'm not going to,

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 you need to help me

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 or, you know,

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 the jury's still out on you.

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 That's not what he's doing.

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 He's like a child.

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 He's falling into the arms of God

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 and saying,

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 help.

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 This doesn't make sense.

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 Help.

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 My God.

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 My Holy One.

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 I know I belong to you.

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 I know that you're holy.

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 I'm not even questioning that.

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 Help me.

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 Understand this.

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 It's a very different posture.

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 You see doubt expressed

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 in different ways

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 in the Bible.

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 There's a great example of this,

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 of the contrast

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 in Luke chapter 1.

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 Interesting back-to-back accounts

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 between two individuals.

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 You have Zechariah

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 and you have Mary.

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 And in both accounts,

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 Zechariah and Mary,

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 an angel comes out of nowhere

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 and says,

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 you're about to have a baby.

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 And both people

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 are astounded, right?

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 Zechariah's past childbearing years,

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 Mary's a virgin.

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 So both Zechariah and Mary

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 express doubt to the angel.

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 What?

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 How can this be?

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 What's going to happen?

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 So they both question

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 the claim being made

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 by the divine being.

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 So up to that point,

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 they're the same.

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 But then the angel's response

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 makes these stories

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 radically different.

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 What happens to Mary?

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 The angel is kind

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 and loving

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 and generous

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 and gives her more information

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 and helps her to understand, right?

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 What happens to Zechariah?

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 Right?

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 He gets struck mute.

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 Right?

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 Oh, you're asking questions.

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 I'm going to take away

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 your ability to speak

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 until the baby comes, right?

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 And you just think,

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 well, what's going on there?

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 Is Gabriel just kind of

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 having a bad day?

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 And he's like,

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 I'm tired of all the questions.

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 Bam!

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 No more words from you.

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 You know?

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 And it's interesting

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 to try to make sense of that.

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 But the answer, I think,

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 comes from the fact

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 that the Bible

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 has a very nuanced

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 understanding of doubt.

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 A very nuanced

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 understanding of doubt.

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 And this is where

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 you see the difference.

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 There's what you might think of

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 as honest doubt.

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 And there's what you might call

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 dishonest doubt.

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 And if you look at Mary,

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 Mary is an honest doubter.

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 Which means this.

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 She is honestly looking

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 for more information.

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 She's honestly wanting

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 to understand.

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 Right?

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 She knows that she's a virgin

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 and she simply wants

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 to understand

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 the angel better.

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 So she asks literally,

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 how will this happen

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 since I have not known

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 my husband?

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 How is this going to happen?

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 What are the mechanics of it?

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 Because I don't,

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 I can't,

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 I don't know how

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 this kind of thing works.

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 Right?

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 And if you look at Zechariah,

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 what he's actually asking

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 is subtly

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 but very meaningfully different.

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 Zechariah says,

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 not how will this happen,

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 but he says,

00:17:16.379 --> 00:17:17.220
 how do I know?

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 It's a very different tone.

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 So in other words,

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 he's not saying,

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 help me understand this better.

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 He's saying,

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 prove it.

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 Maybe I'll believe you,

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 maybe not.

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 Prove it to me

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 and then we'll see.

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 Very different kind of doubt

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 because honest doubt

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 comes from a place

00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:36.839
 of intellectual humility.

00:17:37.099 --> 00:17:37.720
 Honest doubt is saying,

00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:38.139
 you know,

00:17:38.299 --> 00:17:39.740
 I know I don't understand everything.

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 I know you know

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 way more than I do.

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 Understand things way beyond

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 what I'll ever be able to.

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 Help me understand.

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 Give me wisdom.

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 Give me knowledge.

00:17:47.819 --> 00:17:48.519
 Give me understanding.

00:17:48.659 --> 00:17:50.199
 That's honest doubt.

00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:52.359
 It's asking questions

00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:53.639
 and wanting answers.

00:17:55.459 --> 00:17:56.359
 Dishonest doubt

00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.139
 is called dishonest doubt

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 because it actually tends

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 to come from a place

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 of intellectual pride.

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 Right?

00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:03.859
 It's the posture

00:18:03.859 --> 00:18:04.779
 that assumes

00:18:04.779 --> 00:18:05.899
 you know most everything

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 worth knowing

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 and even more importantly

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 that if you can't

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 understand something,

00:18:11.399 --> 00:18:12.459
 if something doesn't fit

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 with your sense

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 of how the world works,

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 it must not be true.

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 See, so it's not really doubt.

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 It's more of a kind

00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:21.739
 of posture of judgment.

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 I will decide

00:18:23.439 --> 00:18:25.159
 whether this is true or false.

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 I will decide.

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 And if it doesn't make sense to me,

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 it's probably not true.

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 And there are a number

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 of people who say,

00:18:30.719 --> 00:18:30.939
 you know,

00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:31.879
 you look at Christianity

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 and there are these mysteries

00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:35.639
 and seeming inconsistencies

00:18:35.639 --> 00:18:36.779
 and things that don't line up.

00:18:37.179 --> 00:18:38.159
 That's a clear sign

00:18:38.159 --> 00:18:38.839
 that it's not true.

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 And I would say,

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 if that's your way of thinking,

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 you should really question that.

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 I think assuming

00:18:46.399 --> 00:18:47.959
 that things can only be true

00:18:47.959 --> 00:18:49.399
 if we understand them

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 fully

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 is the height

00:18:52.419 --> 00:18:53.419
 of human arrogance.

00:18:54.939 --> 00:18:55.119
 Right?

00:18:55.299 --> 00:18:56.259
 Unexplained mysteries

00:18:56.259 --> 00:18:57.799
 don't automatically mean

00:18:57.799 --> 00:18:59.159
 something isn't true.

00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.019
 In fact,

00:19:01.080 --> 00:19:01.980
 if we're really dealing

00:19:01.980 --> 00:19:03.220
 with the deepest mysteries

00:19:03.220 --> 00:19:03.960
 of existence,

00:19:04.140 --> 00:19:04.860
 wouldn't we expect

00:19:04.860 --> 00:19:05.420
 that there would be

00:19:05.420 --> 00:19:06.120
 some things

00:19:06.120 --> 00:19:07.660
 that might be just beyond

00:19:07.660 --> 00:19:09.840
 our vast intellectual capacity?

00:19:11.080 --> 00:19:12.120
 So I think one of the things

00:19:12.120 --> 00:19:13.220
 to take away from this is,

00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:15.300
 beware simplistic answers.

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 Do you know,

00:19:17.600 --> 00:19:18.900
 some of the greatest times

00:19:18.900 --> 00:19:19.759
 of growth for me

00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:21.320
 in my own spiritual life

00:19:21.320 --> 00:19:22.660
 have come from people

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 asking me,

00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:24.279
 knowing I'm a Christian,

00:19:24.600 --> 00:19:25.320
 and asking me

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 really, really,

00:19:26.259 --> 00:19:27.240
 really hard questions.

00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:29.080
 Well, how do you explain this?

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 What do you Christians

00:19:30.259 --> 00:19:31.120
 think about that?

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 Because what it does

00:19:32.340 --> 00:19:33.540
 is it drives me

00:19:33.540 --> 00:19:34.740
 into prayer,

00:19:34.940 --> 00:19:35.980
 and it drives me

00:19:35.980 --> 00:19:36.980
 into God's Word.

00:19:37.180 --> 00:19:38.180
 And it drives me

00:19:38.180 --> 00:19:39.820
 to ask and seek out

00:19:39.820 --> 00:19:40.960
 the advice and wisdom

00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:41.759
 of people who have been

00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:43.160
 believers longer than I have,

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 who are more mature

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 than I am.

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 And all of those things

00:19:46.840 --> 00:19:47.680
 bring about

00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.019
 great opportunities

00:19:49.019 --> 00:19:50.880
 for rich maturity

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 and growth.

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 But we have to be willing

00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.720
 to face the hard questions

00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.640
 if we want that

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 to be true for us.

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 So that's part one,

00:19:59.840 --> 00:20:01.120
 the doubt in our faith

00:20:01.120 --> 00:20:02.800
 and the significant role

00:20:02.800 --> 00:20:04.660
 it plays in Habakkuk's life

00:20:04.660 --> 00:20:05.700
 and in our life.

00:20:06.360 --> 00:20:06.760
 And now,

00:20:06.820 --> 00:20:07.500
 with the rest of our time,

00:20:07.540 --> 00:20:07.960
 we're going to look

00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:09.160
 at God's response,

00:20:09.280 --> 00:20:11.060
 verses 5 through 11,

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 and we'll see the promise

00:20:12.660 --> 00:20:13.700
 to be found

00:20:13.700 --> 00:20:14.980
 in our pain.

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 Here's how God responds.

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 Now listen,

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 imagine that you're Habakkuk,

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 you've just said

00:20:19.260 --> 00:20:19.780
 what you've said.

00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.080
 Now here's what God says.

00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.039
 Look among the nations

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 and see,

00:20:26.699 --> 00:20:28.339
 wonder and be astounded,

00:20:29.139 --> 00:20:30.059
 for I'm doing a work

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 in your days

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 that you would not believe

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 if told.

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 And you can imagine

00:20:33.779 --> 00:20:34.379
 Habakkuk saying,

00:20:34.699 --> 00:20:35.279
 I'm ready,

00:20:35.619 --> 00:20:36.299
 lay it on me,

00:20:36.419 --> 00:20:37.559
 this is going to be amazing.

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 And then guess what God says?

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 If you go on,

00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:40.859
 right?

00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:42.939
 I'll just summarize it for you.

00:20:43.579 --> 00:20:44.699
 God essentially says,

00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:45.960
 and I'm sort of putting

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 words in his mouth,

00:20:46.619 --> 00:20:47.220
 hopefully this is

00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:48.199
 an accurate paraphrase,

00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:50.259
 you think it's bad now?

00:20:51.259 --> 00:20:52.720
 You think this is bad?

00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:54.600
 It's going to get way worse.

00:20:55.220 --> 00:20:55.380
 Right?

00:20:55.460 --> 00:20:56.580
 I'm going to raise up

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 the Chaldeans,

00:20:58.640 --> 00:20:59.740
 the Babylonians,

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 who are bloodthirsty

00:21:01.220 --> 00:21:01.740
 and wicked

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 and they only worship

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 their own strength,

00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:04.620
 and they're going to take

00:21:04.620 --> 00:21:05.680
 all of you captive

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 like a man piles sand

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 into a jar.

00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:09.900
 Now that's an interesting reference

00:21:09.900 --> 00:21:10.840
 considering the promise

00:21:10.840 --> 00:21:11.840
 given to Abraham, right?

00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:13.960
 I'm going to make

00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:14.600
 your descendants

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 as vast and as numerous

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 as grains of sand.

00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:18.120
 Right?

00:21:19.060 --> 00:21:20.140
 Well now God's saying,

00:21:20.320 --> 00:21:21.280
 I'm going to let

00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:22.300
 this foreign nation

00:21:22.300 --> 00:21:23.320
 who hates me

00:21:23.320 --> 00:21:24.020
 and hates you,

00:21:24.180 --> 00:21:24.900
 they're going to gather

00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:26.060
 all of that sand up

00:21:26.060 --> 00:21:27.400
 and put it in a jar.

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 They're going to take you captive.

00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:29.540
 Right?

00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:31.040
 And Habakkuk is horrified

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 and so Habakkuk fires back

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 and says essentially,

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 Lord, as I said,

00:21:35.020 --> 00:21:36.020
 I know we're not perfect

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 but there's so much worse.

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 How could you let this happen?

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 And chapter 1

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 ends with this image

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 of Habakkuk saying,

00:21:43.540 --> 00:21:43.700
 you know,

00:21:43.740 --> 00:21:44.820
 all of us are like fish

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 in the sea

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 and you're allowing

00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:47.660
 the Babylonians

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 to be like this fisherman

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 who just mercilessly

00:21:50.380 --> 00:21:51.560
 like a commercial fisherman

00:21:51.560 --> 00:21:53.299
 just throws these big nets out

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 and gathers everybody up

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 and then at the end of the day

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 they don't even give you

00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:58.299
 thanks for that, God.

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 They worship their nets.

00:22:00.740 --> 00:22:01.200
 And then he says,

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 are you just going to let them

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 take over the world?

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 Is this your great plan?

00:22:06.620 --> 00:22:07.700
 End scene.

00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:09.340
 Right?

00:22:09.339 --> 00:22:10.659
 That's how chapter 1 ends.

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 But fortunately,

00:22:14.459 --> 00:22:17.019
 we have an advantage,

00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:17.419
 I think,

00:22:17.500 --> 00:22:18.879
 that Habakkuk didn't have

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 which means we know

00:22:20.459 --> 00:22:21.379
 a little bit more

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 of the story.

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 This is happening

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 in the, you know,

00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:25.799
 around the 6th,

00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:27.259
 7th century BC

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 so we have a little

00:22:29.740 --> 00:22:30.459
 more perspective.

00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:34.000
 All Habakkuk knows

00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:35.279
 is that this wicked nation

00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:36.179
 is going to conquer them

00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:37.200
 and take them into exile.

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 And yet more happens

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 and 600 years later

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 the Apostle Paul

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 is preaching in a synagogue

00:22:44.539 --> 00:22:45.279
 and he's preaching

00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:45.940
 to a combination

00:22:45.940 --> 00:22:48.440
 of Jews and God-fearers.

00:22:48.539 --> 00:22:49.160
 These are people

00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:50.400
 who are Gentiles

00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:51.660
 who want to follow God

00:22:51.660 --> 00:22:52.560
 and have a relationship

00:22:52.560 --> 00:22:52.980
 with Him

00:22:52.980 --> 00:22:55.019
 and so they're Gentile converts

00:22:55.019 --> 00:22:55.799
 to Judaism.

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 And so he's preaching

00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:58.580
 to this mixed audience

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 and he's talking about Jesus.

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 And he's talking about

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 how because of the cross

00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:03.019
 and the death

00:23:03.019 --> 00:23:03.960
 and resurrection of Jesus

00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:05.920
 it's now possible

00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:07.019
 to be saved in a way

00:23:07.019 --> 00:23:07.680
 that the law

00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:08.900
 didn't make possible.

00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:10.100
 And that's something

00:23:10.100 --> 00:23:11.140
 that is now open

00:23:11.140 --> 00:23:11.860
 to everyone.

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 Jews and Gentiles alike, right?

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 This is this new message

00:23:14.900 --> 00:23:15.640
 of the gospel.

00:23:17.300 --> 00:23:17.779
 In other words,

00:23:17.900 --> 00:23:19.220
 Paul is sort of,

00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:20.519
 he's just sort of laying out

00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:21.840
 God's plan for salvation

00:23:21.840 --> 00:23:24.180
 and then of all things

00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:24.980
 he could have quoted

00:23:24.980 --> 00:23:26.820
 in the Old Testament scriptures,

00:23:27.220 --> 00:23:27.960
 where does he go?

00:23:28.800 --> 00:23:30.680
 He quotes Habakkuk 1.5.

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 I mean, that's crazy, right?

00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:34.720
 He quotes this passage

00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:35.460
 full of doubt.

00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:36.800
 And he quotes

00:23:36.800 --> 00:23:37.900
 where God is saying,

00:23:38.840 --> 00:23:40.600
 look, you scoffers,

00:23:40.700 --> 00:23:42.039
 be astounded and perish,

00:23:42.340 --> 00:23:43.220
 for I'm doing a work

00:23:43.220 --> 00:23:43.860
 in your days,

00:23:44.060 --> 00:23:45.320
 a work that you will not believe

00:23:45.320 --> 00:23:46.580
 even if one tells it to you.

00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:48.240
 He quotes Habakkuk 1.5.

00:23:49.740 --> 00:23:51.400
 And the fact that he quotes it

00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:52.460
 where he quotes it

00:23:52.460 --> 00:23:53.320
 tells us something

00:23:53.320 --> 00:23:54.039
 loud and clear.

00:23:54.980 --> 00:23:55.680
 Paul is saying,

00:23:56.560 --> 00:23:58.880
 when God said these words

00:23:58.880 --> 00:23:59.680
 to Habakkuk,

00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:01.180
 ultimately these words

00:24:01.180 --> 00:24:01.720
 were pointing

00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:03.320
 to the coming of Jesus.

00:24:03.700 --> 00:24:05.240
 Habakkuk never could have known that.

00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:06.440
 But this is what God

00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:07.359
 is actually saying.

00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:08.559
 He's saying to Habakkuk,

00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:10.440
 look and be astounded.

00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:13.099
 Look at what's about to happen.

00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:13.980
 He says,

00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:14.319
 you know,

00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:15.599
 I'm going to raise up Babylon

00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:16.920
 and you're going to be

00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:17.880
 taken into exile.

00:24:18.180 --> 00:24:19.279
 But that's just the beginning.

00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:20.859
 He says,

00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:22.299
 then I'm going to raise up Assyria

00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:24.099
 and Assyria is going to conquer Babylon.

00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:25.099
 And then you're going to be

00:24:25.099 --> 00:24:25.859
 set free again.

00:24:26.059 --> 00:24:27.640
 And then Greece is going to take over.

00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:29.180
 And because the Greeks take over,

00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:30.900
 their language is going to become

00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:32.640
 the dominant common language

00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:35.620
 among these known people groups.

00:24:35.740 --> 00:24:36.560
 And then after that,

00:24:36.700 --> 00:24:37.640
 you're going to become decentralized.

00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:39.520
 And instead of the temple,

00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:40.240
 you're going to develop

00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:41.320
 the synagogue system.

00:24:41.540 --> 00:24:43.000
 And so all of these Gentiles

00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:44.440
 are going to start to come in

00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:45.520
 and become familiar

00:24:45.520 --> 00:24:47.320
 with the Jewish way of life

00:24:47.320 --> 00:24:48.320
 and religion.

00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:50.220
 And then Rome is going to take over

00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:51.759
 and establish the Pax Romana.

00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:52.940
 And then the known world

00:24:52.940 --> 00:24:54.480
 is going to be connected by roads

00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:55.799
 and a common system of government

00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:57.599
 and systems and institutions.

00:24:58.019 --> 00:24:59.819
 And then this perfect storm

00:24:59.819 --> 00:25:01.339
 of major political forces

00:25:01.339 --> 00:25:01.980
 that Habakkuk,

00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:03.019
 you're not even going to begin

00:25:03.019 --> 00:25:03.519
 to understand.

00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:04.640
 This perfect storm

00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:05.599
 is going to be established

00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:08.180
 from all these countervailing movements

00:25:08.180 --> 00:25:09.380
 in world history.

00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:10.460
 And right in the midst

00:25:10.460 --> 00:25:11.599
 of that perfect storm,

00:25:12.059 --> 00:25:14.319
 God's Son is going to plunge Himself.

00:25:15.099 --> 00:25:16.680
 And while you, Habakkuk,

00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:17.440
 may cry out,

00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:18.299
 O Lord,

00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:19.819
 and believe that you're alone.

00:25:20.339 --> 00:25:21.759
 And while we may cry out,

00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:22.500
 O Lord,

00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.099
 and believe that we're alone.

00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.339
 That man is going to cry out,

00:25:26.420 --> 00:25:26.920
 O Lord,

00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:27.559
 from the cross,

00:25:27.700 --> 00:25:28.980
 and he will be alone.

00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:31.720
 The only one in history

00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:33.099
 that God truly abandoned.

00:25:34.059 --> 00:25:35.319
 But because of that,

00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:36.640
 because of that,

00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:39.500
 this promise is going to ensue

00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:42.660
 of a complete cosmic renewal.

00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:43.660
 Because of this death,

00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:44.940
 all the injustice

00:25:44.940 --> 00:25:46.000
 and hatred

00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:46.900
 and cruelty,

00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:47.819
 all of that stuff

00:25:47.819 --> 00:25:49.299
 that you're railing against Habakkuk,

00:25:49.539 --> 00:25:51.240
 all of that is going to be dealt with.

00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:51.980
 And one day,

00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:53.660
 justice will fill the earth again.

00:25:54.860 --> 00:25:56.059
 And then the news of this

00:25:56.059 --> 00:25:57.339
 is going to begin to spread.

00:25:57.720 --> 00:25:59.960
 And it's going to go far and wide.

00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.240
 And then people are going to start

00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:02.079
 writing it down.

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:03.120
 In what language?

00:26:03.460 --> 00:26:04.720
 Koine Greek,

00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:06.440
 the common tongue.

00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:07.599
 And then it's going to begin

00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:08.480
 to be written down

00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.140
 and formed into something

00:26:10.140 --> 00:26:11.740
 that will be called the Bible.

00:26:11.860 --> 00:26:12.559
 And then that's going to be

00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.299
 translated into Latin.

00:26:14.360 --> 00:26:15.140
 And then it's going to start

00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:15.799
 to be translated

00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:17.059
 into all of the various

00:26:17.059 --> 00:26:17.980
 common tongues

00:26:17.980 --> 00:26:19.400
 around the known world.

00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.640
 And that book

00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:22.420
 is going to become

00:26:22.420 --> 00:26:22.940
 to date

00:26:22.940 --> 00:26:24.740
 the most widely read book

00:26:24.740 --> 00:26:25.720
 in the history

00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:26.700
 of humanity.

00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:27.500
 And that book

00:26:27.500 --> 00:26:28.259
 is going to contain

00:26:28.259 --> 00:26:29.340
 all things necessary

00:26:29.340 --> 00:26:30.820
 for any human being,

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:32.080
 regardless of their background,

00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:33.640
 regardless of their ethnicity,

00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:35.640
 to be reconciled

00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:36.620
 to the creator God

00:26:36.620 --> 00:26:37.440
 of the universe.

00:26:37.840 --> 00:26:38.940
 So yes, Habakkuk,

00:26:39.340 --> 00:26:42.400
 I'll try to answer

00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:43.040
 your question.

00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.659
 But even if I laid

00:26:45.659 --> 00:26:46.680
 all of it out for you,

00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:48.440
 you wouldn't believe me.

00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:50.720
 You wouldn't believe me.

00:26:51.500 --> 00:26:52.500
 You wouldn't understand.

00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.139
 But here's the thing, Habakkuk.

00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:58.839
 It starts with exile.

00:27:01.779 --> 00:27:03.019
 It's going to be hard.

00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:07.319
 Trust me.

00:27:09.059 --> 00:27:09.819
 Trust me.

00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:14.480
 So this is the choice,

00:27:14.579 --> 00:27:14.779
 I think,

00:27:14.819 --> 00:27:15.420
 that we have to make

00:27:15.420 --> 00:27:16.240
 on a daily basis.

00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:19.259
 Because just like Habakkuk,

00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:20.799
 I think that we live lives

00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:22.139
 where there's a disconnect

00:27:22.139 --> 00:27:25.240
 between what God has said

00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.480
 and who he says he is

00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:29.839
 and then what our lives look like

00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.299
 on a daily basis.

00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:32.700
 And it doesn't seem

00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:33.420
 to fit together.

00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:35.440
 Right?

00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:36.039
 On the one hand,

00:27:36.099 --> 00:27:37.579
 God promises to be our God,

00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:38.500
 to work all things

00:27:38.500 --> 00:27:39.019
 for our good,

00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:40.339
 to never stop loving us.

00:27:40.779 --> 00:27:41.359
 And yet,

00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:41.960
 on the other hand,

00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:42.879
 our lives are sometimes

00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:43.640
 full of struggle

00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:44.560
 and hardship

00:27:44.560 --> 00:27:45.500
 and it seems like

00:27:45.500 --> 00:27:46.080
 God is nowhere.

00:27:47.120 --> 00:27:48.380
 So this core question

00:27:48.380 --> 00:27:49.100
 is put to us

00:27:49.100 --> 00:27:50.120
 just as it was him.

00:27:51.020 --> 00:27:52.320
 Are you going to trust

00:27:52.320 --> 00:27:53.860
 only what you see

00:27:53.860 --> 00:27:54.800
 with your eyes?

00:27:55.620 --> 00:27:57.060
 Or are you going to trust

00:27:57.060 --> 00:27:59.120
 the words of God

00:27:59.120 --> 00:28:00.860
 to shape your ultimate

00:28:00.860 --> 00:28:02.040
 understanding of reality?

00:28:03.040 --> 00:28:04.380
 Where do you put your faith?

00:28:04.380 --> 00:28:07.600
 Do I trust that God's promises

00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:08.380
 might be unfolding

00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.300
 even in the midst

00:28:10.300 --> 00:28:11.300
 of my pain?

00:28:11.299 --> 00:28:12.720
 Paul saw the promise

00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:13.659
 in the pain

00:28:13.659 --> 00:28:14.200
 and the question

00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:15.039
 is presented to us.

00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:16.480
 Can we have eyes

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:17.899
 to see the promise

00:28:17.899 --> 00:28:18.799
 unfolding

00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:19.599
 even in the midst

00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:20.919
 of our pain?

00:28:21.019 --> 00:28:22.599
 The world's groaning

00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:23.139
 in pain.

00:28:25.139 --> 00:28:25.480
 You know,

00:28:25.619 --> 00:28:28.680
 in our northeast congregation,

00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:29.299
 our pediatrician,

00:28:30.259 --> 00:28:31.680
 Dr. Reese,

00:28:32.159 --> 00:28:32.299
 you know,

00:28:32.339 --> 00:28:33.180
 Kristen Reese Hall,

00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:34.839
 she's our boys pediatrician

00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:36.419
 and she's a wonderful woman

00:28:36.419 --> 00:28:37.599
 and wonderful doctor.

00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:38.919
 But every so often

00:28:38.919 --> 00:28:40.000
 we have to take our boys

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.359
 to see her

00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:42.199
 and we have to break

00:28:42.199 --> 00:28:42.879
 the news to them

00:28:42.879 --> 00:28:43.759
 in the car

00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:45.759
 that when we get there

00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:46.259
 you're going to have

00:28:46.259 --> 00:28:46.899
 to get a shot.

00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:49.279
 And they freak out

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:50.519
 because that's what kids do,

00:28:50.639 --> 00:28:50.879
 right?

00:28:51.099 --> 00:28:52.959
 And then there ensues

00:28:52.959 --> 00:28:54.359
 a kind of theological debate,

00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:55.179
 right?

00:28:55.899 --> 00:28:56.299
 Well,

00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:57.240
 if Dr. Reese

00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:58.819
 is all-knowing

00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:00.859
 and if she's good

00:29:00.859 --> 00:29:02.379
 and if she's loving

00:29:02.379 --> 00:29:04.199
 and she wants the best

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:04.740
 for us

00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:05.900
 then how

00:29:05.900 --> 00:29:07.180
 when this random nurse

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:07.840
 comes in

00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:09.279
 and sticks a piece

00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:10.539
 of metal in my leg

00:29:10.539 --> 00:29:11.539
 why does she sit

00:29:11.539 --> 00:29:12.299
 idly by?

00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:14.319
 Why does she not

00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:15.440
 hear our cries?

00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:16.580
 Right?

00:29:16.660 --> 00:29:17.580
 Why does she do nothing?

00:29:17.660 --> 00:29:17.980
 And we say

00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:18.960
 everybody can hear

00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:19.519
 your cries.

00:29:19.940 --> 00:29:22.539
 That's not the problem,

00:29:22.860 --> 00:29:23.140
 right?

00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:24.640
 And we say,

00:29:24.700 --> 00:29:24.819
 you know,

00:29:24.860 --> 00:29:25.480
 we could try

00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:26.720
 to explain it to them

00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:27.819
 but they can't really

00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:29.080
 understand immunizations

00:29:29.080 --> 00:29:29.640
 and all that

00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:30.900
 because they're five,

00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:31.900
 right?

00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:32.500
 And seven.

00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:34.240
 And so at the end

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:34.500
 of the day

00:29:34.500 --> 00:29:35.700
 we say trust us.

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:37.559
 Now this is nowhere

00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:38.980
 near the scale

00:29:38.980 --> 00:29:39.539
 that we're dealing

00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:40.339
 with in Habakkuk

00:29:40.339 --> 00:29:40.880
 but it's a,

00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:42.440
 it's at the core

00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:43.579
 of it the same question,

00:29:44.019 --> 00:29:44.299
 right?

00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:45.940
 Are you going to trust me

00:29:45.940 --> 00:29:47.140
 that this is ultimately

00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:47.779
 going to turn out

00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:48.380
 for your good?

00:29:48.859 --> 00:29:49.460
 Are you going to trust

00:29:49.460 --> 00:29:50.039
 me with this?

00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:51.960
 You know,

00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:52.720
 some of you know

00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:53.640
 the story of,

00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:54.420
 you know,

00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:55.200
 my wife and I,

00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:56.740
 we met years ago

00:29:56.740 --> 00:29:57.420
 in 1999

00:29:57.420 --> 00:29:59.839
 and we got,

00:30:00.339 --> 00:30:01.059
 fell in love

00:30:01.059 --> 00:30:01.920
 and got engaged

00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:02.800
 and everything

00:30:02.800 --> 00:30:03.400
 was great

00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:04.360
 and then as we

00:30:04.360 --> 00:30:04.920
 got engaged

00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.100
 and started approaching

00:30:06.100 --> 00:30:06.600
 the wedding

00:30:06.600 --> 00:30:07.600
 I just began

00:30:07.600 --> 00:30:08.420
 to lock down

00:30:08.420 --> 00:30:09.840
 and I can't really

00:30:09.840 --> 00:30:10.420
 explain it

00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:10.940
 but essentially

00:30:10.940 --> 00:30:12.660
 I can only describe it

00:30:12.660 --> 00:30:13.900
 as a kind of profound

00:30:13.900 --> 00:30:14.860
 emotional,

00:30:15.100 --> 00:30:15.519
 spiritual,

00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:16.900
 psychological block

00:30:16.900 --> 00:30:18.960
 where I just could not

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:19.600
 move forward.

00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.200
 I was utterly terrified

00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.480
 and this resulted

00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:24.160
 in us having to

00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:25.799
 call off our engagement

00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:26.539
 and it was bad

00:30:26.539 --> 00:30:27.100
 because it was only

00:30:27.100 --> 00:30:27.620
 a few months

00:30:27.620 --> 00:30:28.259
 before the wedding

00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:29.080
 so we're talking

00:30:29.080 --> 00:30:30.840
 thousands and thousands

00:30:30.840 --> 00:30:31.420
 of dollars

00:30:31.420 --> 00:30:32.819
 of deposits lost,

00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:34.360
 trying to sell

00:30:34.360 --> 00:30:35.319
 bridesmaids dresses

00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:35.940
 on eBay,

00:30:36.940 --> 00:30:37.080
 you know,

00:30:37.140 --> 00:30:38.080
 the whole nine yards.

00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:39.720
 Laura was utterly

00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:40.400
 devastated,

00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:41.480
 you know,

00:30:41.539 --> 00:30:43.220
 I was so devastated

00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:43.779
 and depressed

00:30:43.779 --> 00:30:44.559
 that I started taking

00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:45.299
 antidepressants

00:30:45.299 --> 00:30:46.080
 and going to counseling

00:30:46.080 --> 00:30:46.880
 and trying to figure out

00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:47.720
 what's wrong with me.

00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:48.980
 I felt like I was

00:30:48.980 --> 00:30:49.980
 a massive failure

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:52.240
 and we were apart

00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.200
 for five years

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.019
 and much of that early time,

00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:57.779
 first two or three years

00:30:57.779 --> 00:30:58.740
 was just wrestling

00:30:58.740 --> 00:30:59.400
 with God

00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:00.700
 over what happened,

00:31:00.900 --> 00:31:01.019
 what,

00:31:01.380 --> 00:31:03.240
 I felt so called to this

00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:04.160
 and she felt so called

00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:04.380
 to this

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:05.240
 and it all seemed right,

00:31:05.500 --> 00:31:06.420
 what happened to me?

00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:07.200
 You know,

00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:07.700
 and it's weird

00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:08.339
 when there's something

00:31:08.339 --> 00:31:09.579
 in your own soul

00:31:09.579 --> 00:31:10.579
 that you can't understand.

00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:11.559
 There's a part of you

00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:12.279
 that's doing something

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:13.160
 that you can't even

00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:13.839
 make sense of.

00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:14.579
 You feel like

00:31:14.579 --> 00:31:15.839
 you've betrayed yourself,

00:31:16.740 --> 00:31:17.500
 at least I did.

00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:19.319
 And then through

00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:20.140
 this whole series

00:31:20.140 --> 00:31:20.640
 of events,

00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:21.740
 five years later,

00:31:22.259 --> 00:31:23.420
 we reconnect,

00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:25.519
 we realize we're more

00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:26.360
 in love than ever,

00:31:26.860 --> 00:31:27.860
 we get back together,

00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:28.600
 we get engaged,

00:31:28.700 --> 00:31:29.240
 we get married

00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.019
 and now we've been

00:31:30.019 --> 00:31:30.880
 married for ten years,

00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:32.000
 we have three beautiful kids

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.180
 and I may be biased

00:31:33.180 --> 00:31:33.779
 but I think we have

00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:34.960
 one of the best marriages around.

00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:36.980
 I'm absolutely crazy

00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:37.460
 about her

00:31:37.460 --> 00:31:39.000
 and she likes me okay

00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:39.460
 as well

00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:41.000
 and it works great.

00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:42.220
 And you know,

00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:42.900
 the funny thing

00:31:42.900 --> 00:31:44.100
 about that story is,

00:31:44.140 --> 00:31:44.400
 again,

00:31:44.500 --> 00:31:45.579
 it's just a small example,

00:31:45.700 --> 00:31:47.059
 it's nothing like Habakkuk,

00:31:47.059 --> 00:31:48.440
 but the funny thing

00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:49.299
 is that two things

00:31:49.299 --> 00:31:50.500
 are simultaneously true

00:31:50.500 --> 00:31:51.119
 that don't really

00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:51.940
 seem to fit together.

00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:53.139
 On the one hand,

00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:54.059
 would I wish that

00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:54.819
 on anyone?

00:31:55.539 --> 00:31:56.319
 Absolutely not.

00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:57.599
 Absolutely not.

00:31:58.139 --> 00:31:58.940
 It was a dark night

00:31:58.940 --> 00:31:59.379
 of the soul

00:31:59.379 --> 00:32:00.179
 for both of us.

00:32:00.700 --> 00:32:01.819
 And yet on the other hand,

00:32:01.899 --> 00:32:02.700
 when I ask her,

00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:03.359
 and this comes up

00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:03.919
 every now and then,

00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.079
 would you change anything?

00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:07.119
 If you could,

00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:08.480
 would you change it?

00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:09.500
 She says,

00:32:09.619 --> 00:32:10.480
 absolutely not.

00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:12.259
 And that's a weird

00:32:12.259 --> 00:32:12.940
 thing to say.

00:32:12.940 --> 00:32:14.539
 But when we look at that,

00:32:14.700 --> 00:32:16.259
 somehow that is a part

00:32:16.259 --> 00:32:17.559
 of who we are as people

00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:18.620
 and it's a part,

00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:19.080
 I think,

00:32:19.100 --> 00:32:20.100
 of why our marriage

00:32:20.100 --> 00:32:21.299
 is so strong now.

00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:22.080
 Now,

00:32:22.120 --> 00:32:22.539
 if you had tried

00:32:22.539 --> 00:32:23.900
 to tell me any of that

00:32:23.900 --> 00:32:25.860
 in 2002,

00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:27.640
 I would have laughed

00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:28.480
 you out of my house.

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:29.620
 I don't even want

00:32:29.620 --> 00:32:30.320
 to hear that.

00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:33.180
 But now,

00:32:33.340 --> 00:32:33.940
 looking back,

00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:36.220
 God was somehow

00:32:36.220 --> 00:32:37.900
 mysteriously at work.

00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:38.680
 Now,

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:39.240
 I don't understand

00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:40.059
 everything about it.

00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:41.140
 I certainly have

00:32:41.140 --> 00:32:41.880
 a lot of questions.

00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:42.780
 I can't wait

00:32:42.780 --> 00:32:43.940
 to ask God about it.

00:32:43.980 --> 00:32:44.740
 A lot of other stuff

00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:45.180
 in life.

00:32:45.940 --> 00:32:46.740
 But I can tell you

00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:47.380
 that we see

00:32:47.380 --> 00:32:48.560
 God's goodness in it.

00:32:50.060 --> 00:32:50.420
 In other words,

00:32:50.460 --> 00:32:51.120
 we're able to see

00:32:51.120 --> 00:32:52.780
 the promise in the pain.

00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.000
 God's will unfolding

00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.260
 in some amazing way

00:32:57.260 --> 00:32:58.540
 that we wouldn't even believe

00:32:58.540 --> 00:32:59.800
 even if he told us.

00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:01.580
 Right?

00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:02.780
 So the most amazing thing

00:33:02.780 --> 00:33:03.580
 about Habakkuk,

00:33:03.620 --> 00:33:04.180
 and this is where

00:33:04.180 --> 00:33:05.220
 we need to stop

00:33:05.220 --> 00:33:06.600
 for this week,

00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:07.620
 the most amazing thing

00:33:07.620 --> 00:33:08.300
 about Habakkuk

00:33:08.300 --> 00:33:09.380
 is that Habakkuk

00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:09.980
 doesn't have

00:33:09.980 --> 00:33:11.320
 any of this perspective

00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:12.539
 bear in mind.

00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:14.079
 He doesn't know

00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:15.599
 what's on the other

00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:16.299
 side of exile.

00:33:16.659 --> 00:33:17.099
 He doesn't know

00:33:17.099 --> 00:33:17.559
 anything about

00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:18.259
 the coming of Jesus.

00:33:18.379 --> 00:33:18.740
 He doesn't know

00:33:18.740 --> 00:33:19.419
 any of that.

00:33:19.819 --> 00:33:20.700
 All he knows

00:33:20.700 --> 00:33:21.960
 is he's staring exile

00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:22.960
 in the face

00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:23.819
 like looking down

00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:24.679
 the barrel of a gun.

00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:26.619
 And yet,

00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:27.700
 even without

00:33:27.700 --> 00:33:28.619
 that perspective,

00:33:29.299 --> 00:33:30.859
 he trusts God.

00:33:31.579 --> 00:33:32.259
 And he falls

00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:32.919
 into his arms.

00:33:33.819 --> 00:33:34.679
 So how much more

00:33:34.679 --> 00:33:36.500
 then can we

00:33:36.500 --> 00:33:37.339
 who have the

00:33:37.339 --> 00:33:38.099
 perspective of

00:33:38.099 --> 00:33:38.919
 Jesus Christ

00:33:38.919 --> 00:33:40.500
 trust God?

00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:42.079
 even if things

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:42.400
 are hard

00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:43.240
 and don't make sense.

00:33:44.099 --> 00:33:44.819
 Because we're able

00:33:44.819 --> 00:33:45.680
 to look at the cross

00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:46.859
 and see the promise

00:33:46.859 --> 00:33:47.880
 in the pain

00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:48.619
 that the greatest

00:33:48.619 --> 00:33:49.500
 pain and suffering

00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:50.519
 ever experienced

00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:51.779
 by a human being

00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:53.220
 could produce

00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:54.079
 the greatest hope

00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:55.039
 the world has ever

00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:55.279
 known.

00:33:56.700 --> 00:33:57.480
 In the name of the

00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:58.259
 Father and the Son

00:33:58.259 --> 00:33:58.960
 and the Holy Spirit.

00:33:59.519 --> 00:33:59.740
 Amen.