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 I've just written a paper that is going to go on the Youth Surge website.

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 I hope that you know that there's a Youth Surge website.

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 It's called youthsurge.com.au.

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 I have a website in America called effectiveyouthministry.com.

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 It's not effectiveym.com.

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 Be careful.

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 They're the speed water into a bucket guys and smack each other with all the newspaper.

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 Effectiveyouthministry.com, where I every week just post youth ministry thoughts.

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 They're designed for the leadership team to download, read, and discuss.

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 And there's going to be a long paper.

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 I'm giving it in Melbourne at this conference on, you know,

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 do we think pragmatically in youth ministry or do we think theologically?

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 And so you've got to really think through that because the Americans are pragmatists.

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 The Americans say, how do we get kids in the door?

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 That's what they think.

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 That's not a theological way to think.

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 It's not an Australian way to think.

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 We want to think, what does God want us to do?

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 That's way more important.

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 So let's think theologically.

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 Let's think with our Bibles open.

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 Now, if this was a 40-hour class, we'd spend a whole bunch of time in the Bible.

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 And so, unfortunately, I've got to rush through some really good God stuff,

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 which is frustrating for all of us.

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 But here is a key passage.

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 To me, this is a central passage in thinking through youth ministry.

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 It's well known.

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 1 Corinthians 3.

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 And God says here, Paul says here,

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 By the grace God gives me,

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 I laid a foundation as an expert building in somebody else's building.

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 Paul goes to Corinth.

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 He does evangelism.

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 People become Christians and he leaves.

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 So he was the expert builder.

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 And he built this church.

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 And he says,

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 But each one should be careful how he builds.

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 For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

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 So it's all about Jesus.

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 That's why we're doing it.

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 You're preaching Jesus, teaching Jesus,

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 helping people to love Jesus,

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 helping people to love each other because of Jesus.

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 The whole thing is about Jesus.

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 If any man builds on this foundation,

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 he's in gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, and straw.

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 His work will be shown for what it is

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 because the day will bring it to light.

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 You're building a house.

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 Paul says you've got two piles.

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 Gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, and straw.

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 Now be clear on this.

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 In that culture,

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 you are not going to build a house with gold, silver, costly stones.

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 It's absurd.

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 You're going to build a house with wood, hay, or straw.

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 Like today.

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 And so Paul says be careful

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 because there's some really obvious stuff to build with

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 and it's the wrong stuff.

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 There's other stuff to build

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 that you may not even occur to you to build with.

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 But that's what you're going to build with

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 because you're actually building a temple.

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 And you don't build a temple with just straw.

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 You build a temple with gold.

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 And so he says,

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 if anything builds on this foundation with these things,

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 his work will be shown.

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 The day will bring it to light.

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 That's the day of judgment.

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 It will be revealed with fire.

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 And the fire will test the quality of each man's work.

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 So God is going to send the judgment fires on our youth ministries.

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 So I was with these two awesome ladies for six years at Oakhurst.

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 Just a tremendous blessing in my life.

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 I learned so much about youth ministry at Oakhurst.

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 It was the most fruitful time in my life

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 for thinking and writing and strategizing

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 for all sorts of great reasons.

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 And I'm obviously a lot older than them.

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 And I'm going to die.

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 I'm going to go to heaven.

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 And I think what this passage is saying

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 is that in some weird way,

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 God is going to bring my youth group to heaven.

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 And in my judgment,

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 I'm going to be surrounded by these youth group kids.

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 Lonnie's going to be there.

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 Siara's going to be there.

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 I don't know how it's going to work.

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 It's kind of weird.

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 But suddenly God is going to test them.

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 And if they stand, I stand.

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 If they are burned up, I suffer loss.

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 Verse 15.

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 He's going to test the quality of each man's work.

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 If what he's built survives, he receives reward.

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 If it's burned up, he will suffer loss.

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 He himself will be saved,

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 but only as one escaping through the flames.

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 I'm going to go to heaven no matter what

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 because I trust in Jesus.

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 Jesus has taken my sins.

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 But if I've run this youth group called, you know,

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 Spew Squad,

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 and we've just covered ourselves with marshmallows

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 every week,

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 and we've done weird things with toothpicks.

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 By the way, if it involves a toothpick,

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 you don't do it in youth ministry.

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 It's a rule.

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 Eggs, shaving cream, toothpicks at all costs.

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 We try to toothpick thing in youth group.

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 Even though we've been in youth ministry 30 years,

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 just a few months ago, it was dreadful.

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 And that was the same night we tried memory verse tennis,

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 where you had to hit and say the memory verse.

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 We thought it was such a good idea.

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 You know when it's death from the minute the activity starts?

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 And we're like, oh, this is awful.

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 So even in 30 years, we still get it wrong.

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 Anyway, I'll still be saved,

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 but only there's one escaping.

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 Now this passage, man,

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 it revolves on those nine words.

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 Two, four, six, eight, nine.

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 Be careful.

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 Be careful.

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 When you buy a youth ministry book,

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 be careful.

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 When you read my stuff,

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 be careful.

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 When you put a program together,

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 be careful.

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 Because you are building on Jesus,

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 you're building God's temple.

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 Are you using gold?

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 So here's one simple barometer for your youth group.

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 Something I've learned in a long time.

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 Does your youth group pray?

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 If your youth group prays,

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 that's a really good barometer for your youth ministry.

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 If I come to your youth group,

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 and you open with prayer,

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 and there's a prayer time involved,

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 and when the leader says,

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 hey guys, we're going to pray,

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 what can we pray for?

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 And kids say,

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 could we pray for whatever?

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 That is a real sign of health.

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 And that says to me

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 that there's a real serious building with gold here.

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 When you say to your youth group,

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 okay, grab your Bibles.

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 So I was at the youth group here last night,

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 and one of the leaders who's here said,

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 okay, everybody get a Bible.

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 What did the kids do?

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 They all went and got a Bible.

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 Okay, we're going to turn to Mark 14.

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 They open up to Mark 14.

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 That is a real sign of gold

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 being woven and built,

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 and this program is just,

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 oh, I think, fantastic.

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 That's a healthy barometer.

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 When do the kids groan?

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 Oh, that's a real indicator

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 that something's,

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 okay, we're going to play a game now

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 if they go, oh,

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 they're saying something.

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 Or if you say, hey,

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 we're going to have a prayer time now

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 and if the kids go, oh,

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 we want to keep playing the game,

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 that's a real sign.

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 So Paul says, build with gold.

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 Build with gold.

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 Now here's another one.

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 This to me is just a fantastic passage.

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 You know it.

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 It's a real famous passage.

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 It's at the end of Acts 2.

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 Luke, the historian,

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 gives us kind of a summary passage.

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 He does it a few times

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 in the book of Acts.

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 And he says,

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 just to sum up this wacko,

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 amazing, fantastic time

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 in the early church

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 where there was Pentecost

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 and all this outpouring

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 of the Holy Spirit

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 and thousands of people

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 became Christians

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 and it was just amazing.

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 He sums it up by saying,

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 this stuff.

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 Template.

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 You are looking at a template

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 for youth ministry.

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 Right there.

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 Notice what they were.

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 They were devoted

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 to Bible study.

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 They were devoted

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 to fellowship.

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 The word there is

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 koinonia or koinonia.

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 We have cheapened

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 the word fellowship

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 in youth ministry.

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 We have,

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 what people do culturally

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 is they take a really good word

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 and they hijack it.

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 The word gay,

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 it's a really good word.

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 Like it's rich in meaning

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 but you can't say it anymore.

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 It's been twisted.

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 And we've done

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 a similar thing

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 with fellowship.

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 We call things fellowship

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 that aren't fellowship.

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 Fellowship is relating

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 to a person

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 because of the cross of Christ.

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 So I am deep friends

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 with Ciara

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 not because we just connect

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 and we like the same stuff

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 and we just personality-wise

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 get along.

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 That's true.

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 But it's because

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 of the cross of Christ.

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 I relate to her

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 through Jesus

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 which means

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 much more deep.

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 I'm going to care for her.

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 I'm going to love her.

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 I'm going to be with her,

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 mourn when she's mourning,

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 rejoice when she's rejoicing.

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 I'm going to admonish her.

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 I'm going to rebuke her.

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 I'm going to warn her.

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 I'm going to study the Bible with her.

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 It's this awesome term.

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 That's fellowship.

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 That's what they were devoted to.

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 They were devoted to

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 possibly communion,

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 possibly meals.

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 People disagree.

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 And they were devoted to prayer.

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 Wow, what a great

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 youth group image right there.

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 Everybody looks in and says,

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 woo, amazing.

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 And the apostles were doing

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 great stuff.

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 People getting healed.

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 They spent a lot of time together.

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 Notice that in verse 44.

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 They had a lot of commonality together.

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 People kind of wrestle with that.

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 What does it mean?

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 Does it mean physical stuff?

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 Does it mean attitudinally?

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 Does it mean doctrinally?

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 I think it means they were thinking

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 of one mind and spirit.

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 And they, verse 45,

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 they shared their stuff.

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 Generosity.

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 They met a lot.

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 Verse 46.

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 Big group, small group.

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 Big group in the temple courts,

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 small group eating together in the homes.

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 They spent a lot of time praising God.

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 People looked in and said,

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 you guys are awesome right here.

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 And they grew.

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 Amazing passage.

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 Amazing passage.

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 And so I look at that and I say,

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 okay, that informs my thinking

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 in what I want to do.

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 That is a list of activities.

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 It's not a list of doctrines.

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 I must believe that Jesus is X.

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 That's really good.

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 I love doctrine.

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 I'm a doctrine guy.

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 But this is a list of activities.

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 So I read that and I think,

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 okay, if I do that,

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 I'm building with gold.

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 And I want to think theologically.

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 And I want to take those activities

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 and put them into place in my youth group.

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 And so how do I do that?

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 That's the question.

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 That's where we're going right now.

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 So I'm going to build my youth program

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 on three pillars.

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 So those of you who need a model of youth ministry,

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 here it comes.

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 For those of you who know my stuff,

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 this is a little bit,

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 I'm taking build, reach, and flow.

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 If you don't know what I'm talking about,

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 don't worry about it.

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 I'm taking build, reach, and flow

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 and I'm trying to work it a little bit,

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 make it a little bit thicker.

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 So build, reach, and flow fits into this.

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 We're not going to talk much about build, reach, and flow today.

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 You can read about it.

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 But I want to build my house on three pillars.

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 And this is real obvious stuff,

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 but I'm telling you,

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 the more I think about it,

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 I think it changes everything.

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 I think it changes everything.

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 Our pillar number one is we're a Christian youth group.

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 When I came to Australia,

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 I immediately fell in love with Australia.

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 It changed my life.

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 But I didn't get Australia.

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 I didn't get Australia until I got cricket.

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 I won't bore you with the story,

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 but it was during beach mission season.

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 All my friends had gone.

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 I was going so insane

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 that I turned on Channel 9 and watched the cricket.

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 For an American, that's insanity.

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 And over the course of five days,

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 and a lot of phone calls,

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 what's a Googly, what's a Yorker,

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 you know,

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 everything opened up.

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 I understood so much about Australia

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 that just led to a whole bunch of thinking

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 and led to quite a deep desire

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 for me to become an Australian.

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 Now I'm trying to wrestle with hockey.

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 Hockey's a really weird sport.

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 I don't get it.

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 Like, you lose your teeth when you play.

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 It just seems like,

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 welcome to the hockey team,

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 you won't be needing those anymore.

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 LAUGHTER

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 But our college has a gym.

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 It's in a balcony.

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 I'm doing the elliptical

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 because I'm really not good

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 at anything else these days.

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 If it involves a heavy object, forget it.

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 So I just do this.

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 Woo!

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 And I watch the hockey

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 because every institution in Australia

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 has to have a hockey rink,

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 in Canada,

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 has to have a hockey rink.

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 So I'm watching hockey.

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 And then there'll be a hockey match.

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 And I'm watching the parents.

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 And I'm watching the coach.

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 Now I don't know if you know hockey.

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 I never knew this.

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 But the team doesn't stay out

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 for longer than 90 seconds.

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 So you have four guys race out.

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 And it's so fast

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 that they hyperventilate.

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 And they come back in

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 and four more guys goes out.

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 And they have four sets of four guys.

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 Is that right, Josh?

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 It's four sets.

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 Five sets of four guys.

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 Four sets of five guys.

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 Four sets of five guys.

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 Who go out.

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 And I never pick that up.

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 And so I'm watching it.

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 Now what I'm watching

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 is a brutal, sweaty, hard sport.

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 That's what I'm watching.

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 And the parents are into it.

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 And the kids,

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 they sit in this bench thing

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 right next to the ice.

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 And they just lean up.

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 And whenever something good happens,

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 they pound on the thing.

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 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

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 And they're eager to go out.

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 And I think,

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 here's a group of young people

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 who are really committed

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 to something that's sweaty,

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 uncomfortable, toothless.

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 Other parts of your anatomy

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 will take a puck.

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 And so it's like,

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 oh, this is bizarre.

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 So I think, okay.

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 I have a nephew.

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 I take my nephew to hockey.

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 And I say,

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 hello, hockey coach.

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 My nephew's a little bit

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 interested in hockey.

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 Hockey coach says,

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 great.

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 We'd love to have him.

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 And I say,

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 yeah, but I don't think

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 he wants to afford hockey.

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 I don't know.

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 I think he's a bit scared.

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 Could you play some games

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 that don't have anything

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 to do with hockey

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 to kind of ease them

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 into hockey?

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 Like, could you play

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 Honey, If You Love Me,

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 Smile?

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 Even though I know

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 you guys can't smile.

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 What would the coach do?

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 What would the coach do

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 if I said to him,

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 can you do things

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 other than hockey

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 to be attractive

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 to the non-hockey player?

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 It is an unknown concept

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 to hockey players.

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 Now, I hope you're tracking

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 with me because

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 this is super important.

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 Think glee club.

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 Don't think glee club.

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 Think chess club.

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 By the way,

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 you know that glee clubs

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 sing glees?

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 That's why they're called

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 glee clubs.

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 I never knew that.

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 Anyway,

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 it comes from the 1700s.

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 If I go to a chess club,

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 which, by the way,

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 you will never see me

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 in a chess club.

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 I'm not knocking

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 those of you

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 who are in chess clubs.

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 I'm just...

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 But if I go to a chess club,

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 I'm not going to expect

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 to do a lot of things

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 other than play chess,

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 get thicker glasses

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 and a calculator

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 in my front pocket.

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 Just joking.

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 I'm going to expect

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 to play chess.

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 If a chess club

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 wants to grow numerically,

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 what are they going to do?

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 They're going to play chess.

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 It wouldn't even occur

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 to them to say,

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 let's do non-chess activities

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 to grow.

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 Wouldn't even occur to them.

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 Okay, let's keep going.

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 So what I want to think through

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 is we're a Christian group.

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 That is who we are.

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 We are unashamedly

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 marked by our love

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 for Jesus Christ.

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 There will be people

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 who don't want to join us.

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 There were people

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 who didn't want

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 to follow Jesus.

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 There were people

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 that Jesus healed

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 that didn't follow Jesus.

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 It's mind-boggling.

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 I can't figure that out.

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 Why would you not

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 want to follow Jesus?

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 Didn't want to.

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 Didn't want to.

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 And so there's going to be

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 a whole market share

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 that just quite frankly

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 doesn't want to be Christian,

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 doesn't want to follow us.

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 But we are going to be

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 a Christian youth group.

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 And that's going to be

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 what marks us.

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 It's going to be

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 really, really obvious.

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 That's our first pillar.

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 And there's a whole bunch

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 of Bible passages

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 we can look at,

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 but we looked at this

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 2 Peter one

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 we kind of looked at

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 a few minutes ago.

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 That's who we are.

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 And one really weird turn

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 the church did

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 was to follow Willow Creek

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 and go down

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 the Seeker Sensitive Mall.

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 That was such a weird,

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 for those of you

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 who are a bit older,

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 that was such a weird turn

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 for us to do.

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 We're going to start

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 doing non-Christian activities

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 to attract non-Christians.

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 Doesn't make any sense.

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 And Willow Creek,

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 as many of you know,

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 has now said,

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 we don't do that anymore.

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 And so we need to be saying,

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 well, we never did.

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 So we need to be

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 following along with it.

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 So that's our first pillar.

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 Hockey group,

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 glee club,

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 choir,

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 chess group,

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 Christian youth group.

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 And in this new

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 post-millennial world

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 where kids clearly want

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 integrity and transparency

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 and they want to know

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 what will I get

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 if I join this?

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 What is this all about?

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 Because I'm so busy

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 and I've got so many

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 good options

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 that I need to figure out

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 whether this is a valid

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 thing for me to give

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 my time and my money to.

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 That's our strength.

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 It's not our weakness.

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 Our strength is to say,

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 we are a place

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 that will connect you

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 with the creator

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 of the universe.

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 And we are a place

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 that just knows Jesus

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 intimately and loves him.

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 Oh, where did that come from?

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 Okay, now we have

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 a second pillar.

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 And our second pillar

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 is this.

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 We do Christian things.

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 Real obvious.

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 Why do we do

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 Christian things?

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 Because we're

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 Christian youth group.

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 That's why.

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 You come to this club,

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 to this group,

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 we are unashamedly Christian.

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 And we pursue

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 spiritual disciplines.

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 Now for those of you

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 who are kind of

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 like to think a bit deeper,

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 I'm really wrestling

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 with some terms.

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 And I think where I'm going

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 in the future

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 is pillar number one

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 is ontos.

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 It's who we are.

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 Pillar number two

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 is pneumaticos.

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 We are spiritual.

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 And that means

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 we do spiritual things.

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 And pillar three,

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 which we're going to get to

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 in a minute,

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 is praxis.

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 We think about

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 how we do it

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 in a culture.

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 So I'm working on

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 something right now

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 that may have that in it.

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 But we pray.

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 We send it to the Bible.

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 We worship.

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 Now we have a third pillar.

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 Third pillar is

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 we do it with youth.

00:19:27.779 --> 00:19:28.940
 Now that is

00:19:29.860 --> 00:19:31.839
 the model I think

00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:32.660
 we need to think

00:19:32.660 --> 00:19:33.799
 very carefully about.

00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:35.860
 We do this

00:19:35.860 --> 00:19:36.980
 with youth.

00:19:36.980 --> 00:19:37.039
 youth.

00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.000
 They are 15 years old.

00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:41.299
 They are 12 years old.

00:19:41.500 --> 00:19:42.660
 They are 20 years old.

00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:44.539
 However age they are,

00:19:44.819 --> 00:19:45.519
 what does it mean

00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:47.039
 to be a Christian group

00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:48.420
 and do Christian things

00:19:48.420 --> 00:19:49.120
 with them?

00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:49.980
 So we're going to think

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 about culture.

00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:53.000
 We're going to think about

00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.019
 how do we fit this in

00:19:55.019 --> 00:19:55.740
 to culture?

00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:58.539
 What's the best time

00:19:58.539 --> 00:19:59.380
 to do this

00:19:59.380 --> 00:20:00.140
 in culture?

00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:02.019
 What are some activities?

00:20:02.019 --> 00:20:03.160
 So now we have to

00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:04.240
 factor in cell phones.

00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:05.059
 We're going to do

00:20:05.059 --> 00:20:06.639
 an activity this afternoon

00:20:06.639 --> 00:20:07.980
 that would really easily

00:20:07.980 --> 00:20:08.799
 run with cell phones.

00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:10.240
 I hate cell phones.

00:20:10.339 --> 00:20:11.099
 I don't have a cell phone.

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 I never text.

00:20:11.879 --> 00:20:12.460
 I haven't texted

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 for years and years and years.

00:20:14.500 --> 00:20:15.480
 But I could see

00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:16.400
 building texting

00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:17.619
 into your youth program.

00:20:18.059 --> 00:20:19.099
 I can also see

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 making them

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 put their phones away

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 in the youth group program.

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 But if your culture

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 would be offended

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 if you said

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 okay all cell phones

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 go into that basket.

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 We'll give them back to you

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 at the end of the night.

00:20:29.619 --> 00:20:31.279
 I could see a culture

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 where the kids just say

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 I am not coming

00:20:33.439 --> 00:20:34.379
 if you do that.

00:20:34.699 --> 00:20:36.019
 So how do we build in

00:20:36.019 --> 00:20:36.919
 cell phones?

00:20:37.479 --> 00:20:38.739
 Well you guys are way ahead

00:20:38.739 --> 00:20:39.259
 of me because you're

00:20:39.259 --> 00:20:40.259
 a lot younger than I am.

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 And you think savvy.

00:20:42.419 --> 00:20:43.739
 So think through

00:20:43.739 --> 00:20:45.879
 texting questions

00:20:45.879 --> 00:20:46.539
 on the board

00:20:46.539 --> 00:20:47.379
 during a Q&A.

00:20:47.719 --> 00:20:48.519
 Think through having

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 a leader texting

00:20:49.879 --> 00:20:50.719
 to the kids.

00:20:51.259 --> 00:20:51.939
 Hey are you listening

00:20:51.939 --> 00:20:52.359
 to Ken?

00:20:52.399 --> 00:20:53.619
 This is a great point.

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 Or texting an outline

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 to the talk.

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 Or something along

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 those lines.

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 Who knows?

00:20:58.799 --> 00:20:59.319
 There's a whole bunch

00:20:59.319 --> 00:20:59.740
 of ways where you

00:20:59.740 --> 00:21:00.200
 could think through

00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:01.039
 how do we build

00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:01.439
 our culture.

00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:02.819
 Julie is going to do

00:21:02.819 --> 00:21:03.899
 an activity with us

00:21:03.899 --> 00:21:04.819
 later on where we

00:21:04.819 --> 00:21:05.919
 built Facebook in

00:21:05.919 --> 00:21:07.779
 to kind of a starting

00:21:07.779 --> 00:21:08.159
 youth group.

00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:09.559
 Julie said to me

00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:10.379
 one day just about

00:21:10.379 --> 00:21:11.079
 six weeks ago

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 hey I think I've got

00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:13.480
 a good kind of

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 mixer kind of opening

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 built on Facebook.

00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:16.919
 Actually Julie

00:21:16.919 --> 00:21:17.740
 do you mind saying

00:21:17.740 --> 00:21:18.220
 it right now?

00:21:18.639 --> 00:21:19.299
 We'll look at it

00:21:19.299 --> 00:21:19.859
 really briefly this

00:21:19.859 --> 00:21:20.339
 afternoon but do you

00:21:20.339 --> 00:21:20.500
 mind?

00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:20.960
 Okay yeah.

00:21:21.259 --> 00:21:21.919
 But basically

00:21:21.919 --> 00:21:23.859
 30 minutes before

00:21:23.859 --> 00:21:24.319
 youth group

00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:25.200
 I checked everyone's

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 Facebook profile

00:21:26.299 --> 00:21:26.960
 and wrote them all

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 down.

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 And then came to

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 youth group

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 handed out paper

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 and then I went

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 through each one

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 and read out

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 what their line was

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 and they couldn't

00:21:36.579 --> 00:21:37.279
 say it was them

00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:37.859
 and they had to

00:21:37.859 --> 00:21:38.980
 guess what each

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 other's profile was.

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 And they really

00:21:41.980 --> 00:21:43.019
 loved the fact that

00:21:43.019 --> 00:21:44.400
 everyone knows

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 their profile.

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 And so often

00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:46.900
 young people

00:21:46.900 --> 00:21:47.640
 they put their

00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:48.480
 profile out there

00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:49.039
 they want people

00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:49.599
 to hear it

00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:50.019
 they want people

00:21:50.019 --> 00:21:50.539
 to like it

00:21:50.539 --> 00:21:51.079
 they want people

00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:51.799
 to comment on it.

00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:52.680
 so they really

00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:53.500
 responded well

00:21:53.500 --> 00:21:54.519
 to we've got to

00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:55.879
 hear what everyone

00:21:55.879 --> 00:21:57.180
 and we even got

00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:57.980
 to interact with

00:21:57.980 --> 00:21:59.119
 you said you had

00:21:59.119 --> 00:21:59.559
 a bad week

00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:00.180
 what happened

00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:01.279
 and the school

00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:01.819
 was very positive.

00:22:02.059 --> 00:22:02.220
 Yeah.

00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:03.099
 Our youth group

00:22:03.099 --> 00:22:03.859
 where we were at

00:22:03.859 --> 00:22:04.480
 very small

00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:05.240
 we had eight or

00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:05.720
 nine kids

00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:07.299
 and so that was

00:22:07.299 --> 00:22:08.500
 just a really nice

00:22:08.500 --> 00:22:09.359
 because one thing

00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:09.720
 I'm going to say

00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:10.200
 to you later

00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:11.200
 is you want to

00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:12.119
 start the group

00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:13.259
 by saying

00:22:13.259 --> 00:22:14.139
 we're a group.

00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:15.039
 Like it's really

00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:15.779
 good to be back

00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:16.339
 together.

00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:17.240
 You know we

00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:17.720
 haven't met

00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:18.339
 for a week

00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:19.279
 and so let's

00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:20.079
 kind of catch up

00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:21.519
 and rediscover

00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.019
 our groupness.

00:22:23.660 --> 00:22:24.259
 And so the welcome

00:22:24.259 --> 00:22:24.860
 is very important

00:22:24.860 --> 00:22:25.019
 for that.

00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:25.839
 So a really nice

00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:26.600
 way just to start

00:22:26.600 --> 00:22:26.980
 the group

00:22:26.980 --> 00:22:28.019
 speaks right

00:22:28.019 --> 00:22:28.700
 to their culture.

00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:29.779
 Those of you

00:22:29.779 --> 00:22:30.680
 who are kind of

00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:31.839
 under 25

00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:32.559
 this is where

00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:33.160
 you live and breathe

00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:34.180
 and it's brilliant.

00:22:35.940 --> 00:22:36.900
 But this is

00:22:36.900 --> 00:22:38.059
 the third pillar

00:22:38.059 --> 00:22:39.700
 not the first pillar.

00:22:40.500 --> 00:22:41.519
 So this is not

00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:42.559
 how do we attract

00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:43.740
 kids through

00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:44.740
 gadgetry

00:22:44.740 --> 00:22:46.319
 but it's

00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:46.779
 hey we're a

00:22:46.779 --> 00:22:47.420
 Christian group

00:22:47.420 --> 00:22:48.300
 we do Christian

00:22:48.300 --> 00:22:49.340
 things but we

00:22:49.340 --> 00:22:49.900
 have to factor

00:22:49.900 --> 00:22:50.420
 in culture

00:22:50.420 --> 00:22:51.340
 for crying out loud.

00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:51.740
 You know it's

00:22:51.740 --> 00:22:52.400
 where we live.

00:22:52.700 --> 00:22:53.560
 We need to factor

00:22:53.560 --> 00:22:54.620
 in learning styles.

00:22:55.340 --> 00:22:55.800
 This is where

00:22:55.800 --> 00:22:56.700
 we in Sydney

00:22:56.700 --> 00:22:58.980
 fail miserably

00:22:58.980 --> 00:23:00.620
 because we

00:23:00.620 --> 00:23:02.019
 we have learned

00:23:02.019 --> 00:23:03.340
 one learning style

00:23:03.340 --> 00:23:05.519
 and to be honest

00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:06.400
 I'm doing it right now

00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:07.539
 where we just

00:23:07.539 --> 00:23:09.680
 speak a long time

00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:10.600
 and kids listen.

00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:11.800
 That's where

00:23:11.800 --> 00:23:12.840
 my time

00:23:12.840 --> 00:23:13.600
 at the youth group

00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:14.220
 at Oakhurst

00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:15.519
 out in Sydney's west

00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.000
 was super profitable.

00:23:17.420 --> 00:23:18.840
 because we had

00:23:18.840 --> 00:23:19.480
 kids who couldn't

00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:20.720
 listen for 10 seconds.

00:23:21.140 --> 00:23:21.580
 We had kids

00:23:21.580 --> 00:23:22.440
 who couldn't read

00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:23.759
 and so suddenly

00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:25.259
 I had to think

00:23:25.259 --> 00:23:25.720
 through okay

00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:26.539
 how do I take

00:23:26.539 --> 00:23:28.580
 a 25 minute message

00:23:28.580 --> 00:23:29.600
 that's

00:23:29.600 --> 00:23:30.300
 exposition

00:23:30.300 --> 00:23:32.759
 it's a Bible passage

00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:34.300
 how do I take that

00:23:34.300 --> 00:23:36.380
 and deliver it

00:23:36.380 --> 00:23:37.000
 in a way

00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:38.240
 that Brendan

00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:39.519
 can grasp.

00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:40.660
 Brendan

00:23:40.660 --> 00:23:41.060
 is a

00:23:41.060 --> 00:23:42.620
 he was a great

00:23:42.620 --> 00:23:43.420
 person

00:23:43.420 --> 00:23:44.580
 but he was

00:23:44.580 --> 00:23:45.720
 challenged

00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:46.380
 when it came

00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:47.100
 to

00:23:47.100 --> 00:23:49.080
 hearing and

00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:49.360
 listening

00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:50.800
 for 25 minutes.

00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:51.759
 So we had to

00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:52.220
 think through

00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:52.920
 very carefully

00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:54.120
 how do we do it

00:23:54.120 --> 00:23:54.580
 bang

00:23:54.580 --> 00:23:55.120
 bang

00:23:55.120 --> 00:23:55.680
 bang

00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:56.620
 very active

00:23:56.620 --> 00:23:57.180
 and so

00:23:57.180 --> 00:23:57.880
 you may need to

00:23:57.880 --> 00:23:58.420
 talk to a school

00:23:58.420 --> 00:23:58.740
 teacher

00:23:58.740 --> 00:23:59.620
 and say to a school

00:23:59.620 --> 00:23:59.920
 teacher

00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:00.940
 listen what do I do

00:24:00.940 --> 00:24:02.240
 what do I do

00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:02.840
 because school

00:24:02.840 --> 00:24:03.800
 teachers are masters

00:24:03.800 --> 00:24:05.200
 at well you want

00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:05.620
 to maybe have

00:24:05.620 --> 00:24:06.400
 three things

00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:06.759
 and you want

00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:07.400
 to have a variety

00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:08.460
 and so you do this

00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:09.120
 and then you do this

00:24:09.120 --> 00:24:09.940
 and then you do this

00:24:09.940 --> 00:24:11.140
 think ah

00:24:11.140 --> 00:24:12.180
 that is great

00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:13.400
 so think through

00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:13.940
 learning skills

00:24:13.940 --> 00:24:14.860
 active learning

00:24:14.860 --> 00:24:16.600
 have you not noticed

00:24:16.600 --> 00:24:17.460
 that most of your kids

00:24:17.460 --> 00:24:18.340
 are medicated

00:24:18.340 --> 00:24:19.580
 to the eyeballs

00:24:19.580 --> 00:24:20.220
 these days

00:24:20.220 --> 00:24:21.340
 they need

00:24:21.340 --> 00:24:22.940
 they need something

00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:23.480
 energy

00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:24.340
 or something

00:24:24.340 --> 00:24:24.680
 something

00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:25.700
 but let's build that

00:24:25.700 --> 00:24:26.580
 into our teaching

00:24:26.580 --> 00:24:27.500
 program

00:24:27.500 --> 00:24:28.660
 let's build it

00:24:28.660 --> 00:24:29.000
 into maybe

00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.220
 our prayer times

00:24:30.220 --> 00:24:31.460
 some of you

00:24:31.460 --> 00:24:32.259
 might be wrestling

00:24:32.259 --> 00:24:32.840
 through

00:24:32.840 --> 00:24:33.539
 you know

00:24:33.539 --> 00:24:34.220
 do we have

00:24:34.220 --> 00:24:35.920
 moving prayer

00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:37.180
 for some of you

00:24:37.180 --> 00:24:37.680
 that feels a little

00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:38.120
 uncomfortable

00:24:38.120 --> 00:24:39.700
 but one

00:24:39.700 --> 00:24:40.640
 one aspect

00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:41.180
 of youth

00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:42.000
 ministry

00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.039
 that's taken

00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:43.700
 quite a hold

00:24:43.700 --> 00:24:44.160
 in other parts

00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:44.500
 of the world

00:24:44.500 --> 00:24:45.220
 is thinking

00:24:45.220 --> 00:24:46.039
 through stations

00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:46.519
 where you

00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:47.180
 you repent

00:24:47.180 --> 00:24:47.779
 here

00:24:47.779 --> 00:24:48.720
 and you pray

00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:49.319
 for friends

00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:49.799
 there

00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:50.799
 and you thank

00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:51.860
 God for creation

00:24:51.860 --> 00:24:52.299
 there

00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:52.680
 and you

00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:53.559
 that's proven

00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:54.279
 to be very

00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:55.400
 very popular

00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:56.319
 with post-millennials

00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:57.880
 I can see

00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:58.920
 a number of groups

00:24:58.920 --> 00:24:59.340
 doing it here

00:24:59.340 --> 00:25:00.559
 where there's a movement

00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:01.900
 built in

00:25:01.900 --> 00:25:03.460
 Lonnie

00:25:03.460 --> 00:25:03.840
 who's over here

00:25:03.840 --> 00:25:04.420
 she really liked

00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:05.380
 liturgical dancing

00:25:05.380 --> 00:25:05.960
 she loved

00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:10.160
 that was a private

00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:10.480
 joke

00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:10.740
 sorry

00:25:10.740 --> 00:25:12.880
 we take in

00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:13.700
 adolescent development

00:25:13.700 --> 00:25:15.640
 so if you're

00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:16.319
 running a wider

00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:16.759
 youth group

00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:17.380
 of grade 6

00:25:17.380 --> 00:25:17.980
 to 12

00:25:17.980 --> 00:25:18.860
 ouch

00:25:18.860 --> 00:25:20.660
 you know

00:25:20.660 --> 00:25:22.480
 I run a youth group

00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:23.079
 from grade 6

00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:23.579
 to 12

00:25:23.579 --> 00:25:25.299
 but ouch

00:25:25.299 --> 00:25:26.299
 you know

00:25:26.299 --> 00:25:27.200
 we've got

00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:28.400
 little Elliot

00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:29.340
 who's just

00:25:29.340 --> 00:25:30.000
 full of beans

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:30.600
 he's a terrific

00:25:30.600 --> 00:25:31.019
 kid

00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:31.860
 but he's just

00:25:31.860 --> 00:25:32.460
 he's just

00:25:32.460 --> 00:25:34.440
 and then we've got

00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:34.860
 Roy

00:25:34.860 --> 00:25:35.700
 who's in grade 12

00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:36.380
 who's really

00:25:36.380 --> 00:25:37.400
 wrestling with his future

00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:38.059
 so I've got to think

00:25:38.059 --> 00:25:38.279
 through

00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:39.759
 man how do I do this

00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:40.660
 so I've got to

00:25:40.660 --> 00:25:41.900
 really think creatively

00:25:41.900 --> 00:25:42.720
 about my program

00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:43.279
 it's hard

00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.019
 it's hard to do

00:25:44.019 --> 00:25:45.160
 but I want to

00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:45.940
 factor that in

00:25:45.940 --> 00:25:47.519
 because the third

00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:48.740
 pillar is super important

00:25:48.740 --> 00:25:50.059
 now what I'm going

00:25:50.059 --> 00:25:50.340
 to tell you

00:25:50.340 --> 00:25:50.980
 in a few minutes

00:25:50.980 --> 00:25:51.940
 is we're not

00:25:51.940 --> 00:25:52.559
 good at this

00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:54.660
 what we do is

00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:56.039
 we start with

00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:56.759
 some games

00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:58.100
 and we move

00:25:58.100 --> 00:25:58.680
 to the Bible

00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:00.240
 that's what we do

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:01.660
 that is such

00:26:01.660 --> 00:26:02.740
 there's not a lot

00:26:02.740 --> 00:26:03.180
 of thought

00:26:03.180 --> 00:26:03.700
 that goes into

00:26:03.700 --> 00:26:04.180
 that program

00:26:04.180 --> 00:26:05.200
 but get rid of that

00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:06.180
 this afternoon

00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:07.000
 get rid of that

00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:07.400
 program

00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:08.259
 and rethink

00:26:08.259 --> 00:26:09.180
 so those are

00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:09.860
 those are our

00:26:09.860 --> 00:26:10.360
 three pillars

00:26:10.360 --> 00:26:11.060
 and I want you

00:26:11.060 --> 00:26:11.540
 to notice

00:26:11.540 --> 00:26:12.140
 the movement

00:26:12.140 --> 00:26:12.420
 here

00:26:12.420 --> 00:26:13.360
 the movement

00:26:13.360 --> 00:26:13.920
 is

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.400
 the movement

00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:16.920
 is

00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:18.640
 our theology

00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:19.300
 impacts

00:26:19.300 --> 00:26:20.060
 our practice

00:26:20.060 --> 00:26:23.940
 so there are

00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:24.620
 things that

00:26:24.620 --> 00:26:25.000
 we're not

00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:25.420
 going to do

00:26:25.420 --> 00:26:26.660
 I'm not

00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:27.380
 I'm going to

00:26:27.380 --> 00:26:27.580
 do

00:26:27.580 --> 00:26:28.480
 I'm going to

00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:29.600
 do very few

00:26:29.600 --> 00:26:30.240
 activities

00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:31.000
 if any

00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.519
 that I can't

00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.180
 see a high

00:26:34.180 --> 00:26:34.700
 degree of

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:35.359
 profit

00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:36.220
 from

00:26:36.220 --> 00:26:37.299
 especially

00:26:37.299 --> 00:26:38.779
 theologically

00:26:38.779 --> 00:26:40.000
 does this

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:40.420
 help the

00:26:40.420 --> 00:26:40.960
 community of

00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:41.319
 God

00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.200
 connect with

00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:42.579
 each other

00:26:42.579 --> 00:26:42.839
 better

00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:43.839
 does this

00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:44.180
 help the

00:26:44.180 --> 00:26:44.660
 community of

00:26:44.660 --> 00:26:44.960
 God

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:45.720
 connect with

00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.000
 God

00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:46.259
 better

00:26:46.259 --> 00:26:47.279
 does this

00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:47.680
 activity

00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:48.299
 help us

00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:48.960
 to pray

00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:49.980
 learn the

00:26:49.980 --> 00:26:50.339
 Bible

00:26:50.339 --> 00:26:51.259
 love

00:26:51.259 --> 00:26:52.200
 because

00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:53.180
 I'm

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:54.079
 theologically

00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:54.579
 driven

00:26:54.579 --> 00:26:55.539
 but if I

00:26:55.539 --> 00:26:56.039
 just think

00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:57.079
 this activity

00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:57.720
 will quote

00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:58.400
 blow off

00:26:58.400 --> 00:26:58.839
 steam

00:26:58.839 --> 00:26:59.480
 it's gone

00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.099
 as I was

00:27:01.099 --> 00:27:01.460
 saying to

00:27:01.460 --> 00:27:01.940
 some youth

00:27:01.940 --> 00:27:02.279
 leaders the

00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:02.519
 other day

00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:03.140
 I have

00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:04.019
 never in

00:27:04.019 --> 00:27:04.599
 the history

00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:05.059
 of my

00:27:05.059 --> 00:27:05.220
 youth

00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:05.460
 ministry

00:27:05.460 --> 00:27:05.860
 seen a

00:27:05.860 --> 00:27:06.279
 kid blow

00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:06.819
 off steam

00:27:06.819 --> 00:27:08.380
 if somebody

00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:08.799
 says to you

00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:09.180
 well we do

00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:09.579
 this activity

00:27:09.579 --> 00:27:10.140
 just to let

00:27:10.140 --> 00:27:10.700
 them blow

00:27:10.700 --> 00:27:11.140
 off steam

00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:12.000
 grab their

00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:12.360
 tongue and

00:27:12.360 --> 00:27:12.819
 see how far

00:27:12.819 --> 00:27:13.000
 it will

00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:13.440
 actually come

00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:13.539
 out

00:27:13.539 --> 00:27:13.740
 like in

00:27:13.740 --> 00:27:14.259
 the cartoons

00:27:14.259 --> 00:27:17.120
 kids don't

00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:17.940
 blow off steam

00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:19.420
 kids get

00:27:19.420 --> 00:27:19.900
 more hyped

00:27:19.900 --> 00:27:20.240
 up

00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:21.640
 and so

00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:22.180
 that's a

00:27:22.180 --> 00:27:22.579
 concept

00:27:22.579 --> 00:27:23.019
 that I say

00:27:23.019 --> 00:27:24.099
 not really

00:27:24.099 --> 00:27:25.720
 that's not a

00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:26.339
 category I'm going to

00:27:26.339 --> 00:27:26.640
 think to

00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:27.759
 letting off steam

00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.259
 but connecting

00:27:29.259 --> 00:27:30.759
 learning actively

00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:31.700
 those are

00:27:31.700 --> 00:27:32.700
 concepts that I

00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:33.119
 think through

00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:34.680
 now anybody have

00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:35.200
 a question about

00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:35.420
 that

00:27:35.420 --> 00:27:37.119
 anybody have a

00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:37.579
 question or a

00:27:37.579 --> 00:27:37.740
 thought

00:27:37.740 --> 00:27:44.019
 yeah

00:27:44.019 --> 00:27:48.900
 yeah

00:27:48.900 --> 00:27:50.559
 I'd rather

00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:51.279
 not but

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:51.819
 sometimes we

00:27:51.819 --> 00:27:52.220
 have to

00:27:52.220 --> 00:27:53.140
 yeah

00:27:53.140 --> 00:27:58.920
 yeah

00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:04.000
 yeah

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:04.300
 yeah

00:28:04.300 --> 00:28:09.200
 partly that's

00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:09.480
 going to

00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:09.880
 that's going to

00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:10.660
 depend on the

00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:11.380
 structure of some

00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:12.259
 things going on in

00:28:12.259 --> 00:28:12.960
 your youth program

00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:13.620
 do you have

00:28:13.620 --> 00:28:14.320
 do you have

00:28:14.320 --> 00:28:15.080
 small groups

00:28:15.080 --> 00:28:15.880
 where the kids

00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:16.560
 go and join a

00:28:16.560 --> 00:28:17.180
 small group Bible

00:28:17.180 --> 00:28:17.520
 study

00:28:17.520 --> 00:28:20.280
 if I'm a big

00:28:20.280 --> 00:28:20.820
 believer in running

00:28:20.820 --> 00:28:21.280
 a small group

00:28:21.280 --> 00:28:21.820
 network we're going

00:28:21.820 --> 00:28:22.280
 to talk about that

00:28:22.280 --> 00:28:22.680
 in the next

00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:22.940
 session

00:28:22.940 --> 00:28:24.380
 so I'm not

00:28:24.380 --> 00:28:24.740
 going to do a

00:28:24.740 --> 00:28:25.259
 lot of small

00:28:25.259 --> 00:28:25.960
 group activities

00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.100
 in the

00:28:27.100 --> 00:28:28.200
 actual main

00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:28.720
 program

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.340
 but it's not a

00:28:30.340 --> 00:28:30.820
 bad thing to do

00:28:30.820 --> 00:28:31.560
 by any stretch of

00:28:31.560 --> 00:28:31.880
 the imagination

00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:32.320
 it's a very good

00:28:32.320 --> 00:28:32.640
 thing to do

00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:33.360
 we just don't

00:28:33.360 --> 00:28:33.900
 need them because

00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:34.519
 we have cell

00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:35.080
 groups that meet

00:28:35.080 --> 00:28:35.920
 at another time

00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.539
 I

00:28:37.539 --> 00:28:40.539
 in some

00:28:40.539 --> 00:28:41.160
 situations

00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:42.100
 yes I would

00:28:42.100 --> 00:28:42.660
 split the

00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:42.960
 teaching

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.080
 I don't

00:28:44.080 --> 00:28:44.680
 personally do

00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:45.400
 that but I

00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:45.860
 can see the

00:28:45.860 --> 00:28:46.660
 argument for it

00:28:46.660 --> 00:28:47.320
 okay

00:28:47.320 --> 00:28:48.279
 junior hires

00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:49.200
 Brad's going to

00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:49.539
 take you

00:28:49.539 --> 00:28:50.360
 you're going to

00:28:50.360 --> 00:28:51.140
 do this and

00:28:51.140 --> 00:28:51.860
 the senior hires

00:28:51.860 --> 00:28:52.259
 will stay

00:28:52.259 --> 00:28:53.720
 I tend not

00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:54.000
 to do that

00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:54.359
 I tend to

00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:54.640
 keep them

00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:55.039
 all together

00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.759
 and what I'm

00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:57.240
 going to try

00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:57.819
 to do is

00:28:57.819 --> 00:28:59.799
 pick my

00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:01.000
 median level

00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.339
 and it's hard

00:29:02.339 --> 00:29:03.420
 so generally

00:29:03.420 --> 00:29:04.339
 I aim for

00:29:04.339 --> 00:29:05.160
 kind of

00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:06.079
 year 11

00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:07.799
 year 10

00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.140
 and then I'm

00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:09.599
 going to think

00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:10.140
 through okay

00:29:10.140 --> 00:29:10.879
 I want to make

00:29:10.879 --> 00:29:11.420
 sure that my

00:29:11.420 --> 00:29:12.140
 talk has some

00:29:12.140 --> 00:29:13.619
 interactiveness to

00:29:13.619 --> 00:29:13.839
 it

00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:15.160
 maybe some

00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:16.680
 movement involved

00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:17.820
 and some

00:29:17.820 --> 00:29:18.480
 kind of

00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.279
 turn to the

00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:19.700
 person next

00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:19.880
 to you

00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:20.279
 and act

00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:20.840
 this out

00:29:20.840 --> 00:29:21.600
 or I

00:29:21.600 --> 00:29:21.880
 need a

00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:22.200
 few of

00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:22.420
 you to

00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:22.840
 come on

00:29:22.840 --> 00:29:23.500
 up and

00:29:23.500 --> 00:29:24.080
 do this

00:29:24.080 --> 00:29:25.320
 drama as

00:29:25.320 --> 00:29:25.759
 part of my

00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.840
 talk or

00:29:26.840 --> 00:29:27.580
 I need

00:29:27.580 --> 00:29:28.100
 here's the

00:29:28.100 --> 00:29:28.759
 white board

00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:29.779
 I want you to

00:29:29.779 --> 00:29:30.420
 really quickly

00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:31.560
 get into groups

00:29:31.560 --> 00:29:32.039
 come up with

00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:32.340
 blah blah blah

00:29:32.340 --> 00:29:33.200
 and write up on

00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:33.600
 the board

00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:34.240
 yada yada

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:34.500
 yada

00:29:34.500 --> 00:29:36.259
 so I

00:29:36.259 --> 00:29:37.279
 what I'm

00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:37.480
 going to do

00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:37.759
 is what I

00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:38.080
 said a few

00:29:38.080 --> 00:29:38.460
 minutes ago

00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:38.980
 I'm going to

00:29:38.980 --> 00:29:39.480
 try to build

00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:40.259
 in three

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:41.380
 movements in

00:29:41.380 --> 00:29:41.940
 my talk

00:29:41.940 --> 00:29:43.320
 now I've

00:29:43.320 --> 00:29:43.519
 got to be

00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:43.920
 honest with

00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:44.039
 you

00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:45.080
 I tend to

00:29:45.080 --> 00:29:45.620
 be lazy

00:29:45.620 --> 00:29:46.600
 and that

00:29:46.600 --> 00:29:47.220
 often goes

00:29:47.220 --> 00:29:47.480
 by the

00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:47.860
 wayside

00:29:47.860 --> 00:29:49.080
 to build

00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:49.580
 that in

00:29:49.580 --> 00:29:49.920
 is going to

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.160
 take an

00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:50.700
 extra hour

00:29:50.700 --> 00:29:51.440
 of work

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:52.279
 on your

00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:52.580
 talk

00:29:52.580 --> 00:29:53.900
 and so

00:29:53.900 --> 00:29:54.559
 for those

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:54.860
 of you who

00:29:54.860 --> 00:29:55.620
 are volunteers

00:29:55.620 --> 00:29:57.799
 and giving

00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:58.320
 talks

00:29:58.320 --> 00:29:59.320
 that's hard

00:29:59.320 --> 00:29:59.640
 work

00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.620
 yeah

00:30:01.620 --> 00:30:03.900
 so if you

00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:04.320
 were finding

00:30:04.320 --> 00:30:04.779
 a medium

00:30:04.779 --> 00:30:05.259
 level

00:30:05.259 --> 00:30:05.740
 in your

00:30:05.740 --> 00:30:06.140
 group

00:30:06.140 --> 00:30:06.600
 do you

00:30:06.600 --> 00:30:07.160
 ever find

00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:07.480
 that the

00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:07.860
 kids

00:30:07.860 --> 00:30:08.360
 I know

00:30:08.360 --> 00:30:08.580
 you're

00:30:08.580 --> 00:30:08.720
 saying

00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:09.000
 put all

00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:09.100
 the

00:30:09.100 --> 00:30:09.240
 three

00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:09.539
 stages

00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:09.740
 but

00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:09.820
 do you

00:30:09.820 --> 00:30:09.980
 ever

00:30:09.980 --> 00:30:10.240
 find

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:10.700
 that the

00:30:10.700 --> 00:30:11.400
 younger

00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:12.080
 like

00:30:12.080 --> 00:30:12.340
 the

00:30:12.340 --> 00:30:12.759
 seven

00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:14.800
 miss out

00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:15.100
 in the

00:30:15.100 --> 00:30:15.519
 12

00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:16.380
 miss out

00:30:16.380 --> 00:30:16.700
 yeah

00:30:16.700 --> 00:30:17.280
 yeah

00:30:17.280 --> 00:30:17.540
 good

00:30:17.540 --> 00:30:18.140
 very good

00:30:18.140 --> 00:30:18.440
 question

00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:18.680
 what do

00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:19.000
 you do

00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:19.300
 you know

00:30:19.300 --> 00:30:19.500
 that's

00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:20.160
 that's

00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:20.560
 that's

00:30:20.560 --> 00:30:21.560
 that's

00:30:21.560 --> 00:30:21.940
 why I'm

00:30:21.940 --> 00:30:22.240
 a big

00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:22.540
 believer

00:30:22.540 --> 00:30:22.840
 if you

00:30:22.840 --> 00:30:23.160
 can

00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:23.740
 in having

00:30:23.740 --> 00:30:24.200
 two youth

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:24.460
 groups

00:30:24.460 --> 00:30:25.080
 junior high

00:30:25.080 --> 00:30:25.640
 senior high

00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:26.259
 I think

00:30:26.259 --> 00:30:26.540
 that's

00:30:26.540 --> 00:30:27.060
 that's

00:30:27.060 --> 00:30:27.400
 that's

00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:27.759
 the best

00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:28.060
 world

00:30:28.060 --> 00:30:28.380
 to do

00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:28.600
 it

00:30:28.600 --> 00:30:29.280
 because

00:30:29.280 --> 00:30:29.820
 then I'm

00:30:29.820 --> 00:30:30.080
 aiming

00:30:30.080 --> 00:30:30.460
 a little

00:30:30.460 --> 00:30:30.620
 bit

00:30:30.620 --> 00:30:31.259
 more for

00:30:31.259 --> 00:30:31.600
 the grade

00:30:31.600 --> 00:30:32.100
 nines

00:30:32.100 --> 00:30:32.960
 and I'm

00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:33.220
 just

00:30:33.220 --> 00:30:33.920
 I'm

00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:34.120
 just

00:30:34.120 --> 00:30:34.480
 saying

00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:34.780
 grade

00:30:34.780 --> 00:30:35.280
 sevens

00:30:35.280 --> 00:30:35.540
 you'll

00:30:35.540 --> 00:30:35.840
 get

00:30:35.840 --> 00:30:36.040
 it

00:30:36.040 --> 00:30:37.200
 and

00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:37.480
 I

00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:37.640
 think

00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:37.860
 we've

00:30:37.860 --> 00:30:38.060
 seen

00:30:38.060 --> 00:30:38.340
 often

00:30:38.339 --> 00:30:38.699
 the grade

00:30:38.699 --> 00:30:38.980
 nines

00:30:38.980 --> 00:30:39.199
 have a

00:30:39.199 --> 00:30:39.419
 bit of

00:30:39.419 --> 00:30:39.980
 a pull

00:30:39.980 --> 00:30:40.579
 for the

00:30:40.579 --> 00:30:40.759
 grade

00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:41.220
 sevens

00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:41.799
 the grade

00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:42.159
 sevens

00:30:42.159 --> 00:30:42.659
 like having

00:30:42.659 --> 00:30:42.980
 the grade

00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:43.279
 nines

00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:43.539
 there

00:30:43.539 --> 00:30:43.799
 that's

00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:43.980
 a bit

00:30:43.980 --> 00:30:44.059
 of

00:30:44.059 --> 00:30:44.639
 so they'll

00:30:44.639 --> 00:30:45.099
 often sit

00:30:45.099 --> 00:30:45.399
 through a

00:30:45.399 --> 00:30:45.879
 talk that's

00:30:45.879 --> 00:30:46.459
 boring

00:30:46.459 --> 00:30:48.019
 and I'll

00:30:48.019 --> 00:30:48.559
 aim a little

00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:48.899
 bit more

00:30:48.899 --> 00:30:49.159
 for the

00:30:49.159 --> 00:30:49.359
 grade

00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:49.819
 twelves

00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:50.379
 but yeah

00:30:50.379 --> 00:30:52.199
 and in

00:30:52.199 --> 00:30:52.819
 my youth

00:30:52.819 --> 00:30:53.199
 group right

00:30:53.199 --> 00:30:53.559
 now

00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:53.959
 this

00:30:53.959 --> 00:30:54.619
 this youth

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:54.980
 Elliot

00:30:54.980 --> 00:30:55.839
 tremendous

00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:56.259
 kid

00:30:56.259 --> 00:30:57.359
 but quite

00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:57.799
 frankly he

00:30:57.799 --> 00:30:58.220
 can drive

00:30:58.220 --> 00:30:58.459
 some of

00:30:58.459 --> 00:30:58.699
 the grade

00:30:58.699 --> 00:30:58.919
 twelves

00:30:58.919 --> 00:30:59.279
 crazy

00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:01.000
 he gets

00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:01.419
 up all

00:31:01.419 --> 00:31:01.720
 the time

00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:01.980
 and goes

00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:02.240
 to the

00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:02.539
 fridge

00:31:02.539 --> 00:31:02.839
 there's a

00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:03.079
 fridge

00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:03.279
 in our

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:03.459
 thing

00:31:03.459 --> 00:31:04.740
 and raids

00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:05.199
 the fridge

00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:06.279
 during youth

00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:06.460
 group

00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:07.660
 and it's

00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:08.160
 awesome

00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.660
 but it's

00:31:08.660 --> 00:31:08.920
 really

00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:10.279
 awkward

00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:15.860
 yeah I'm

00:31:15.860 --> 00:31:16.279
 a volunteer

00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:17.299
 so I've

00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:17.840
 got so

00:31:17.840 --> 00:31:18.220
 many other

00:31:18.220 --> 00:31:18.539
 things to

00:31:18.539 --> 00:31:18.819
 do

00:31:18.819 --> 00:31:19.420
 but I

00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:19.559
 don't

00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:20.100
 believe in

00:31:20.100 --> 00:31:20.740
 teaching

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:20.940
 youth

00:31:20.940 --> 00:31:21.160
 ministry

00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:21.600
 not doing

00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:21.779
 youth

00:31:21.779 --> 00:31:22.059
 ministry

00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:22.860
 so

00:31:22.860 --> 00:31:25.220
 I said

00:31:25.220 --> 00:31:25.480
 to the

00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:25.840
 kids

00:31:25.840 --> 00:31:27.100
 when we

00:31:27.100 --> 00:31:27.480
 were starting

00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:27.700
 the youth

00:31:27.700 --> 00:31:27.799
 group

00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:28.059
 I said

00:31:28.059 --> 00:31:28.640
 hey guys

00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:28.920
 I'd really

00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:29.180
 like to

00:31:29.180 --> 00:31:29.440
 make this

00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:29.680
 grade

00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:30.160
 nine

00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:30.680
 to

00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:31.059
 twelve

00:31:31.059 --> 00:31:32.039
 and they

00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:32.279
 said

00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:32.720
 but what

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:32.940
 about

00:31:32.940 --> 00:31:33.279
 Doug

00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:34.259
 and I

00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:34.440
 thought

00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:35.019
 fair enough

00:31:35.019 --> 00:31:36.099
 we'll

00:31:36.099 --> 00:31:36.319
 make it

00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:36.500
 seven

00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:36.799
 to twelve

00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:37.059
 because

00:31:37.059 --> 00:31:37.259
 I love

00:31:37.259 --> 00:31:37.460
 Doug

00:31:37.460 --> 00:31:38.359
 and I

00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:38.500
 thought

00:31:38.500 --> 00:31:38.680
 I'm

00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:38.900
 not going

00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:39.680
 to come

00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:39.859
 in and

00:31:39.859 --> 00:31:40.019
 say

00:31:40.019 --> 00:31:41.759
 your friend

00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:42.099
 can't

00:31:42.099 --> 00:31:42.259
 come

00:31:42.259 --> 00:31:43.460
 but it

00:31:43.460 --> 00:31:44.099
 created

00:31:44.099 --> 00:31:44.480
 problems

00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.220
 do you

00:31:46.220 --> 00:31:46.420
 have a

00:31:46.420 --> 00:31:46.619
 comment

00:31:46.619 --> 00:31:46.900
 on that

00:31:46.900 --> 00:31:47.139
 at all

00:31:47.139 --> 00:31:51.039
 mind

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:51.519
 the Canadian

00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:52.000
 kids loved

00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:52.619
 sock puppet

00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:52.960
 memory

00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.259
 verses

00:31:53.259 --> 00:31:54.500
 it was

00:31:54.500 --> 00:31:54.920
 just a

00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:55.180
 winner

00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:56.460
 so

00:31:56.460 --> 00:31:56.980
 we might

00:31:56.980 --> 00:31:57.279
 talk about

00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:57.559
 later