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 Before I jump into the sermon, I just want to expound a little more on what Taryn shared.

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 My name is Steve. I'm one of the pastoral interns here at Trinity Cambridge.

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 I'm trying to remember the name of our church.

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 And so what that means is we're part of a denomination called Sovereign Grace Churches,

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 and Sovereign Grace Churches takes the ordaining of its pastors pretty seriously.

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 And so they have a curriculum of books about this high or so that I have to work through

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 that maybe I'm about here too.

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 And then they have different tests and different things like that.

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 And so part of the time of being an intern is both testing for knowledge but also testing for character too.

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 And so I'm in the midst of that process.

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 I'm in that with Taryn, who's also going through it, Matt, who's probably in Children's Church,

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 and Ray, who I don't think is here today.

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 And we're all pastoral interns kind of going through that walk.

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 The short way to describe this is that this is our side hustle, right?

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 Like we are all full-time somewhere else.

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 I think Ray, Matt, and I are all consultants of various kinds,

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 and Taryn does like 15 different things, including teaching and working for the church

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 and summer camp and stuff like that.

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 So that's kind of who we are.

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 Sean's out for a couple weeks.

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 A couple weeks ago, he said, I'm tired.

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 And I said, well, and I thought that's probably because you haven't taken vacation in a year.

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 So Sean takes two weeks of vacation around this time every year.

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 This is the only time he takes off.

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 He was texting me yesterday, like, can I help with anything?

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 I was like, I think you're on vacation, if I remember that correctly.

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 So he doesn't take a lot of time off, and we're hoping that he enjoys the time he takes.

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 So that said, I'm going to jump into the passage.

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 And a traditional saying that this passage reminded me of when I was looking at it

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 is that the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.

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 And so there's a phrase that goes around like that.

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 It's varied a couple different ways.

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 It's attributed to a few different people.

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 So it's a general idea of, like, I wouldn't overanalyze it, but in, like, a general relational

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 sense, like, when you hate something or somebody, usually that's, like, the impression of, like,

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 well, you have arguments or you have, like, flare-ups or disagreements.

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 Or maybe it's, like, really bad hatred, but at least, like, you're openly communicating

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 and saying, I don't like this, and there's a potential for discussion and turnaround,

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 and you're, like, trying to take activity.

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 There's some semblance of care behind hate still.

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 Indifference is a little bit different.

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 But often when somebody is indifferent, it becomes the end of things like communication

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 or affection, right?

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 So a friendship or relationship where there's indifference becomes quickly cold and possibly

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 unbearable, and often it leads to just dropping out of somebody's life entirely.

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 I imagine that at this point in most of our lives, we've all been cut out of somebody else's

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 life in some way or another.

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 It's usually a bit unceremonious.

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 Either we make a mistake or they do, or we move and the relationship just doesn't, like,

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 continue because you're in different spots.

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 I have a funnier example of this that's a little bit lighter.

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 I was friends with somebody all through college, and then we stayed in touch after college for

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 a little bit, and they were getting married, and I knew the person they were getting married

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 to, and so we emailed back and forth occasionally.

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 And I said something a few months before their wedding, like, oh, really looking forward to

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 the wedding.

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 And they wrote back, and they were, like, actually, you're not invited.

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 And I was like, oh, okay.

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 And so my perception of the friendship was a little bit different than their perception

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 of the friendship, which was totally fine.

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 And also wedding invite lists are pretty short.

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 But after that, the communication kind of fizzled out, and I was like, okay, like, our friendship

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 logically at this point is over, and that's totally, that's fine.

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 I don't think that there was any, like, true offense done in that situation.

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 I think that there was just some miscommunication, and, like, friendships don't last forever.

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 But in the moment, the feeling of, like, indifference was there a bit, of, like, oh, like, I thought

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 our friendship was good enough that, like, I'd be at the wedding, but I'm not, basically.

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 And so there's a bit of a shock of, like, being cut off, right?

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 It's like, well, you're not going to be there.

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 And so I think that that feeling of, like, abandonment on a small scale that I experienced

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 in a moment is kind of what the Israelites are, or the, yeah, the Israelites are experiencing

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 in this passage to a much larger extent.

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 That feeling of being cut off, that God feels indifferent, that the communication with him

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 has stopped, that he's not listening to the appeals of the Israelites.

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 And so that's a big question that hangs over this passage specifically.

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 Why doesn't God help his people in their distress?

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 And why doesn't he answer their prayers in this scenario?

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 And I think that the answer to that is that God will always fulfill his promises, right?

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 God fulfills both his promises of judgment and his promises of grace.

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 And we're going to see both judgment and glimpses of grace throughout this passage, and all of

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 them come from previous promises that God has made.

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 It's a very, it's a logical progression from where they've ended, essentially.

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 The basic outline of the passage is kind of cyclical, so I'll explain it up front, and

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 I'll kind of point out where we are as we go, too.

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 So we're going to go through the same cycle three times, basically.

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 There's going to be a lament over the state of Judah and where they're at and the suffering

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 they're going through.

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 And then there's going to be a petition for, oh, please relieve us from this pain.

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 And then there's going to be an answer by God.

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 The first two times are all very, God rejects in the answer.

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 And then the third time through, it's a little bit different.

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 Jeremiah makes an appeal for himself, and then God answers him in a more offering grace

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 to Jeremiah specifically.

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 So I'll try to keep tabs as we go through the cycle.

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 So the first part of the cycle, or the first lament, is Jeremiah 14, 1 through 6.

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 And this lament is all about famine, right?

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 And the completeness of the drought or the famine is stressed through contrast.

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 So in verse 2, it says,

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 her people lament on the ground, and the cry of Jerusalem goes up.

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 And the nobles send the servants out for water, and they come back with no water.

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 And then there's kind of a spatial movement, right?

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 It goes from the city where the nobles live, out to the country where the farmers are affected

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 by the drought.

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 And then it goes out further to where the wild animals live, essentially.

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 And both deer, which are less hardy animals, and the wild donkeys, which are considered

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 like some of the most hardy animals, essentially, in that area, all of them are suffering from

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 this.

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 So it's kind of a wholesome dimension of like, this is a really bad drought.

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 This is a really bad famine.

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 And that's what he's capturing through that.

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 This is specifically a sign of God fulfilling his promise of judgment to those who break

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 his covenant.

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 We spent a lot of time the last few weeks digging into idolatry.

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 What's that mean?

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 What's it look like?

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 What did it look like for the Israelites?

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 What's it look like for us?

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 And this passage talks a lot about the judgment that stems from that idolatry.

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 So I think it's important.

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 I'm going to mention a few of the contexts, essentially, where the judgment comes from, because I think

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 it's important for us to understand that God's not arbitrary.

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 It's not like the Israelites were doing fine, and then they do some bad things, and God's

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 like, oh, it's okay.

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 And then just one day God snaps.

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 He's like, I can't believe this.

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 I'm done with this, right?

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 That's not how God is reacting in this scenario.

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 And I think that that's kind of, we think that way, because like, that's kind of like

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 the two aspects.

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 There's two aspects of parenting.

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 I was going to say two ways to parent, but I feel like every parent does these different

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 aspects, right?

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 So one is like, you just snap at your kid because they're being annoying.

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 And the other is like, you lay out clear ground rules, and you're like, okay, we got to

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 leave in 10 minutes.

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 Okay, we got to leave in five minutes.

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 Okay, we're leaving now.

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 And if they are like, why are we leaving now?

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 It's like, well, I told you four times beforehand.

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 And so God in the scenario is more like the, he's given preface.

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 He's given warning.

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 He's shown grace, and now he's bringing judgment.

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 In this case specifically, one of the curses of not keeping God's covenant is drought.

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 There's a long section in Deuteronomy in chapters 28 and 29 that talk through the curses

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 that will come to Israel if they don't keep their side of the covenant, basically, if

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 they don't obey God.

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 And this specific passage that I'm reading here is from Deuteronomy 28, 22 through 24.

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 And it says,

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 So this is something that was promised far in advance.

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 If you don't keep my covenant, this is what's coming.

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 And so they're lamenting specifically, I think they know too, they're lamenting specifically,

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 hey, like, we've messed up.

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 We see this judgment on us.

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 And so they turn to plead to God.

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 What's interesting is actually Jeremiah is appealing on behalf of the people, right?

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 So his appeal is in verses 7 through 9 of chapter 14.

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 I'm going to read verse 7 again.

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 Though our iniquities testify against us, act, O Lord, for your name's sake.

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 For our backslidings are many.

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 We have sinned against you.

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 And a small thing to note here, you'll see Jeremiah is saying, we have sinned against

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 you, even though arguably Jeremiah is one of the more obedient people in Judah at this

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 time.

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 And so he's not saying, like, all these people have sinned, please help them.

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 I think that praying on behalf of other groups is pretty common in the Bible.

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 It's something that we see frequently.

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 And so there will often be, like, a corporate confession of we have sinned led by the more

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 righteous members of the community, like, confessing on behalf of others.

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 I think that just as, like, a small side note, I think this is worth something worth us emulating

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 and following.

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 This can be on a bigger scale for when we advocate for people that are perhaps in a worse situation

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 than we are or marginalized or oppressed.

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 I think that that reflects some of what God's looking at here of, like, standing up for other

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 people.

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 And it can happen on a really small scale of, like, if someone asks you for prayer for

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 something they're struggling with, pray with them, not for them.

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 You probably have had experience with whatever they're struggling with, too, unless it's,

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 like, a really severe thing.

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 And so it's often worth—I know it's been helpful for me when I've brought, like, I've

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 said, hey, I'm really bitter about a certain situation or I'm bitter towards God for something

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 in a scenario.

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 It's helped me when people have sat and prayed, like, oh, like, we ask for, you know, forgiveness

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 and we ask for understanding of your love.

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 Like, that small—I feel like that small thing helps people a lot.

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 The passage in this case, backing up a little bit to this, is really a desperate appeal matching

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 the famine and drought, right?

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 So not only is there severe sin, but there's also severe drought.

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 I find it interesting.

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 The Hebrew word for hope that's used here is in a few other places used for, like, pool

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 of water.

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 And I feel like that's kind of the reaction you have when you're thirsty.

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 It's just like a subliminal slip, right?

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 It's like, when you're thirsty, all you can think about is that you need to drink water

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 right now.

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 And so it's like, it just slips out.

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 It's like, hope.

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 I mean, pool of water, of Israel.

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 Like, it's there.

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 They're craving it.

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 And the questions that they ask God in verses 8 through 9, particularly about being a stranger

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 or a traveler in the land, basically it's like, God, we thought you were ruler of this

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 land.

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 Instead, you're acting like, I'm only living here for a little bit or I'm really just passing

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 through for a night because you don't seem to care about the suffering that's going on

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 in our land specifically.

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 And so that's why they ask that question.

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 And the main reason they give God for this appeal, like, God, why should you do this,

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 is one that is commonly appealed throughout Israel.

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 It's for God's namesake.

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 And so not for, because the people are awesome because they realize they're not, but because

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 God is great and that he is the defender of his people.

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 And they're saying, you know, uphold your side of the covenant to us.

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 Don't put us to shame in front of other nations, basically.

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 An example of where this does happen, there's a number of them.

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 One's from Isaiah 48, verses 9 through 11.

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 I'll just read verse 9.

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 It just says,

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 For my namesake, I defer my anger.

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 For the sake of my praise, I restrain it from you, that I may not cut you off.

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 And so the appeal is almost God save face, right?

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 Like, we're your people.

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 We're suffering.

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 Doesn't look good for you for this to be happening.

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 Which in some cases with genuine repentance is a good reason, right?

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 Like, God does want to be, that God is the defender of his people and the protector of

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 his people.

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 In this scenario, though, the problem is that Judah isn't really upholding their side of

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 the situation.

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 Like, they've already rejected God and they're not truly repentant.

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 One commentary says that the sense of estrangement they experienced is sort of like misplaced,

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 right?

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 They feel like they're estranged from God because God is neglecting them, when in reality

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 it's from their own neglect and from their own guilty conscience.

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 So they walked away from God, not the other way around.

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 So the real desire of like, honor your name is really just like, God, help us, right?

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 We don't really want to change anything, but I just want you to get us out of this bad

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 scenario.

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 So God gives his answer to sort of that sideways appeal in verse 10 through 12 of chapter 14.

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 He says,

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 So God explicitly says, like, I don't accept your petition.

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 Like, I'm not taking this request.

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 And the reasons that he gives is because that they wander and that their feet are not restrained.

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 And so what wandering in this scenario means, like, wandering after other gods, like we've

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 talked about, or possibly to, like, alliances with other foreign military powers, which is

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 kind of an affront to God too.

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 It's like, well, God has explicitly said with Israel, like, you don't need other nations

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 to help you.

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 I will fight your battles for you.

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 And that's supposed to be one of their distinguishing aspects.

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 And so Israel's like, ah, I'm just kind of wandering from here to there, trying out different

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 things.

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 And then the feeling of their feet is not restrained.

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 It's kind of like the bad habits that get ingrained from that.

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 So it's like, they've wondered so persistently that the paths are, like, well-worn, that their

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 feet are not restrained.

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 They just keep going in them.

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 So it's like when you, if you've ever changed jobs in the same area and you had a commute

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 that you had before, and then you accidentally keep driving the wrong way because, like, you

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 took that way so many times, like, because your brain just, like, checks out and it's

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 like, oh, shoot, I'm off the wrong exit now.

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 That's the kind of the feeling there of, like, this is really well ingrained into them.

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 Their feet are not restrained.

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 They just kind of go with instinct.

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 So prayer, fastings, and offerings don't work either because these things are really

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 designed to work alongside obedience and have their origin in obedience.

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 So without that foundation of obedience, prayer and fasting and offerings all kind of fall

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 apart and they become meaningless to God.

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 I think it's significant that God says, do not pray for the welfare of these people.

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 It shows, like, the severity of the situation that they're in.

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 There's only a few times that God, or the Bible suggests that God's not listening to prayer

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 in some aspect.

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 It's very, very limited, and this is one of them.

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 And I think that it's because God has decided on the judgment that he's going to give at

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 this point.

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 So he says specifically, don't pray for the welfare of these people.

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 He doesn't say stop appealing for them.

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 He doesn't say don't pray judgment on them because he does call Jeremiah to pray and prophesy

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 judgment on them.

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 But he's basically saying, like, at this point, I'm not going to hear any more appeals for the

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 welfare of these people.

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 They've been disobedient for too long and too severely.

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 Um, so instead of welfare, people get soared in famine and pestilence.

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 And these three words are brought up a lot in Jeremiah and also in this passage.

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 So I'm going to dive into them a little bit.

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 I talked a little bit about famine already, just like the severity of that and the pain

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 of that.

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 So I'm going to brush past that for now.

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 I'm going to talk a little bit about pestilence.

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 I feel like pestilence is, if you were raised in a first world or Western country, like, we

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 don't really know what pestilence is, right?

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 We've seen people suffer from, like, severe disease that can even be mortal.

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 Um, but usually it's, like, isolated instances.

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 There's a lot of medical help and doctors that can bring you through things that would

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 be otherwise lethal without medical assistance.

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 And the big thing is, like, we don't see anything on, like, a zombie infection-like scale.

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 I'm just, like, spreading everywhere and being, like, deadly.

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 Um, but if you take out, like, hospitals and modern medicine and you plop a bunch of people

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 into a city like Jerusalem, uh, pestilence looks really bad all of a sudden because it's

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 something that easily spreads and it's uncontrollable and no one understands it in the sense of,

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 like, they don't understand how to really treat it.

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 Um, and it can take simpler things to take lives.

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 Uh, there's a good description from, uh, Thucydides, whose name I didn't try to pronounce

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 before this, apparently.

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 Uh, he was, he took part in the, or he wrote about the Peloponnesian War, uh, which was

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 about 100 years after Jeremiah.

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 Um, so that's over in Greece.

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 And so he wrote about a city that was suffering from pestilence.

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 And so I'll share a few just snippets from, from his writing.

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 Uh, he said, people in good health were all of a sudden attacked by violent heats in the

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 head and redness and inflammation in the eyes, the inward parts, such as the throat or tongue,

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 becoming bloody and emitting an unnatural and fetid breath.

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 Their symptoms were followed by sneezing and hoarseness, after which the pain soon reached

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 the chest and produced a hard cough.

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 When it fixed in the stomach, it upset it and discharges a bile of every kind named by

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 physicians ensued, accompanied by very great distress.

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 In most cases, also an ineffectual retching followed, producing violent spasms in which

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 some cases cease soon after and others much later.

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 For the disorder first settled in the head, ran its course from thence through the whole

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 of the body.

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 And even where it did not prove mortal, it still left its mark on the extremities for it settled

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 in the privy parts, the fingers and the toes.

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 And many escaped with the loss of these, some too with that of their eyes.

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 Others, again, were seized with an entire loss of memory on their first recovery.

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 And so they did not know either themselves or their friends.

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 Um, and so pestilence, the curse of pestilence in this case is like, that's the kind of severity

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 of scale that we're talking about.

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 A whole city of people that are sick, wondering whether they're going to die, lose their memory,

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 lose body parts.

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 Um, it's not a pretty picture.

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 And then pestilence and famine often come alongside war or the sword.

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 Um, and I feel like war can also be difficult for us to understand.

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 Um, the war that's coming for Judah specifically in this instance is the invasion of Babylon.

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 Um, likely what we read about here is Babylon invaded Judah twice, basically.

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 Once they basically, they essentially came through and wrecked everything and left the

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 city defenseless.

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 And the second time they came back and, and established full dominance and captured everybody

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 in the city, essentially.

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 So this is the first time.

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 Um, now we don't have a ton of people here that I know of, uh, that are either like have

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 vivid memories of the most recent, like catastrophic war for America, which would be the Vietnam

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 war.

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 Um, and we also didn't have a ton of like military or ex-military in the congregation here.

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 So I feel like the thing that like is the closest analogy for us is probably actually 9-11.

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 Um, it was a really tragic and shocking day where a lot of us were totally, totally blindsided

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 by it because it was on American soil.

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 Uh, we felt entirely and totally safe.

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 Um, if you were a U.S. citizen at that point or born in America, you probably like me remember

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 exactly where you were and what was going on.

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 Um, it was 3,000 people dying in a terror attack is no small thing.

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 And it's going to be something that's in my memory for the rest of my life that I'm not

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 going to forget just from the shock and the terror of it.

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 Um, and I don't use that analogy lightly, right?

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 I'm not just like pulling that out of the air.

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 Like, I think that that's legitimately analogous to what Judah went through.

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 Like, I think that that feeling is part of what they felt too.

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 Um, and I think it makes sense, right?

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 So in verse 13, it says that the preachers or the other prophets, pretty much everyone

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 except Jeremiah was talking about peace and safety and things are going to be fine and

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 don't worry about it.

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 Like God's, God's got this.

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 Um, and the people were buying into it, which makes the shock of actual war coming upon them

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 and destruction coming upon them, just blindsiding them basically.

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 Um, and it's so brutal that in verse 16, it describes people are just left dead in the

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 streets essentially, right?

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 So war and famine and pestilence just, just absolutely wrecked Jerusalem.

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 Um, and so this leads us back to the second cycle of where Jeremiah launches into lament

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 from this, uh, because it is so severe and in this, he literally weeps for the people.

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 Um, and it says in verse 17, uh, you shall say to them this word, let my eyes run down

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 with tears night and day and let them not cease for the virgin daughter of my people is shattered

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 with a great wound, with a very grievous blow.

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 If I go out into the field, behold those pierced by the sword.

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 And if I enter the city, behold the diseases of famine for both prophet and priest ply their

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 trade through the land and have no knowledge.

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 Um, a commentator put it this way.

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 I thought it was just really concise that mass killings, whether from war or terrorism, shock

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 the imagination and render numb the sensibilities of those who come upon such horrors.

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 Um, once again, though, even though this, these are atrocious things, um, these were things

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 that God warned about long ago in Deuteronomy.

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 Um, Deuteronomy 28, 16 says, cursed shall you be in the city and cursed shall you be in the

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 field?

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 Um, that's in the context of like war and famine in Deuteronomy 28 as well.

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 Um, which is exactly where Jeremiah finds his country, viewing it in tears.

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 You can kind of picture him almost like stumbling around in a daze of looking through the city

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 and everyone there is sick and dying and looking through the field and the armies are gone and

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 dead and there are dead bodies piled up.

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 Um, you know, I remember we're in the second cycle of lament, petition judgment.

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 So this is the first part of that lament.

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 Um, I spent the first kind of explaining the cycle.

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 So I'm going to try to like the, through the second cycle, I'll try to wrap around and

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 apply it a little bit more.

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 And what's it mean?

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 Um, so that's 17 through 19 is the, is the second lament.

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 Uh, 20 through 22 is, is the second petition, uh, where Jeremiah prays again on behalf of

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 the people.

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 Um, I'm going to highlight from that verse 21, uh, where he says, do not spurn us for your

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 name's sake.

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 Do not dishonor your glorious throne.

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 Remember and do not break your covenant with us.

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 Um, that again is pulling from that Deuteronomy passage.

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 Deuteronomy 31, 20 discusses the people spurning and breaking their covenant with God.

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 Um, where he says basically, uh, when I brought them into a land that's so good and when they're

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 blessed, they're going to, uh, they'll turn to other gods and serve them and despise me

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 and break my covenant.

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 Um, so they're kind of like appealing, like, oh, we're aware of what we did.

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 Um, don't actually commit this thing that you promised a long time ago.

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 Don't spurn us or break the covenant with us.

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 Um, what's interesting though, is that there's a strange inconsistency in this plea.

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 Uh, it lays stress on God's obligations and overlooks the strong obligations of Judah back

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 to God, right?

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 So it's like, oh, hold up your side of the covenant.

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 Uh, but we're going to keep worshiping some gods over here on the side.

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 Um, but you said you do this.

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 Um, I feel like it's a little bit like the, if there is an unbalanced, like friendship

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 or relationship, those things tend to fall apart, right?

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 Um, like if you, if, if someone isn't different towards you and you care a lot towards them,

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 that's just, that's not going to last forever essentially.

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 Um, and so there's that aspect of like, uh, you hold up your side of the deal, but I'm

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 just going to, I'm going to mess around over here.

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 Um, and so to that God gives his most dramatic answer yet.

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 And this is chapter five, verse one.

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 Uh, the Lord said to Jeremiah, though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my heart would

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 not turn towards these people, send them out of my sight and let them go.

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 Um, and standing before, standing before God in this case means interceding on behalf of

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 the people.

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 Uh, this kind of idea reminds me, interceding reminds me of kind of like a college, uh,

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 advisor or like a business mentor, right?

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 Like you're connected to someone who's greater than you.

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 Um, and you go to them for advice and they often appeal on your behalf.

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 So if you have good connections in the business world, you might have a mentor that goes and

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 appeals and gets you a job.

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 Um, or if you are in college or in school, you have an advisor and this person makes the

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 right connections for you to move to grad school or to, through your PhD program to get the

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 right research.

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 Um, so that's kind of like interceding in the sense, like there's someone greater interceding

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 on behalf of the people.

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 Um, and Moses, Moses and Samuel were two, two of the greatest intercessors before God

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 in the Bible.

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 Um, Moses actually at one point averts God's judgment, uh, when all of Israel, they're out

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 of Egypt, they make a golden calf, uh, cause Moses is gone for like three days and they're

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 like, God's gone.

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 So we got to make our own God now.

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 Uh, and they all worship it and it's a, it's a total mess.

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 Uh, and so God and Moses are talking basically on God, Moses has been away talking with God on

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 the mountain, receiving the commandments he's going to pass to the people.

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 And God's like, yeah, so I see the people down there and they're all worshiping a golden

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 calf now and this is over.

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 And Moses appeals on behalf of the people and says, do not strike them down, show us

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 grace.

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 Uh, and God actually relents.

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 Um, and there's still judgment shown, but he doesn't totally wipe out the people like

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 he was planning to.

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 Um, similarly, Samuel, uh, appeals on behalf of the people.

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 He was a, one of the first prophets in the times that, uh, Israel and Judah had kings.

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 Um, and there were multiple times that he basically, there's a battle going on.

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 And Samuel comes in and prays or makes an offering.

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 And then the battle turns in the way of Israel because Samuel, like God hears Samuel.

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 Um, and so what's striking about this is like, God's like, look, if you had both Moses and

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 Samuel standing in front of me, I wouldn't listen to both of them in this instance.

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 Um, and so this argument's really like an argument from the greater to the lesser, right?

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 It's like, okay, if I have the two greatest intercessors in the history of Israel standing

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 in front of me, I'm not listening to you, Jeremiah.

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 I'm sorry.

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 Like it's not going to happen at this point.

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 Um, and then after that, he immediately turns around and uses language.

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 It's sort of like when God brought his people out of Egypt, out of slavery.

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 Um, when the appeal to Pharaoh is let my people go, like send them out of the land.

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 And this now God says, send them out of my sight and let them go.

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 Um, and so in verse two, the people ask, where should we go?

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 Uh, and this, this appeal has very much the same concern as like Cain and Abel.

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 Uh, Cain is the, uh, Cain and Abel are sons of Adam and Eve.

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 Uh, and Cain's the one that murders his brother Abel.

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 Um, and when God disciplines him, it, Cain says like, where will I go?

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 Like you've, you've cast me out.

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 Where will I go?

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 Um, and they get a much less gracious answer than, than Cain does, right?

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 So you've got some places you can go.

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 There's pestilence, there's sword, there's famine, and there's captivity.

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 Um, and those are the places that I will send you out to.

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 Um, he points out that there's four kinds of destroyers, uh, that are kind of shameful

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 destroyers.

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 It's like the sword, like your enemies are going to kill you.

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 And then there's just going to be animals that basically devour you like vultures and

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 dogs in the street eating your meat essentially.

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 Like this, um, and it Calvin, uh, John Calvin points out the, this like turns the natural

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 order on its head.

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 It's like, this is really shameful.

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 Like, first of all, you're gonna get beat by your enemies and then the animals that

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 you're supposed to have dominion over and have control over, like they're just gonna,

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 they're gonna be what curses you.

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 Um, and then in verse four, he says, I will make them a whore to all the kingdoms of the

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 earth because of what Manasseh, the son of Hezekiah, king of Judah did in Jerusalem.

00:26:37.060 --> 00:26:41.340
 Um, so outside of general idolatry that we've seen, uh, we now get to a specific reason for

00:26:41.340 --> 00:26:42.480
 the judgments given so far.

00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:46.920
 Uh, and I think this is where we'll particularly fuel God's judgments being justified.

00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.160
 Uh, so God's not like arbitrarily punishing or just like going overboard.

00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.220
 Uh, and I'm going to read from second Chronicles 33.

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 Uh, and these are some verses about what Judah did under Manasseh essentially.

00:26:58.539 --> 00:27:03.920
 Um, so Manasseh was 12 years old when he began to reign and he reigned 55 years in Jerusalem.

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 And he did what was evil in the sight of the Lord, according to the abominations of the

00:27:08.100 --> 00:27:10.820
 nations whom the Lord drove out before the people of Israel.

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 For he rebuilt the high places that his father Hezekiah had broken down, uh, so like idols.

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 Um, and he erected new altars to the Baals and made Asheroth and worshiped all the host

00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:22.720
 of heaven and serve them.

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 And he built altars in the house of the Lord of which the Lord said in Jerusalem shall my

00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:28.500
 name be forever.

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 And he built altars to all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the Lord.

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 And he burned his sons as an offering in the valley of the son of Himon and used fortune

00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.599
 telling and omens and sorcery and dealt with mediums and necromancers.

00:27:40.819 --> 00:27:44.019
 He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger.

00:27:44.660 --> 00:27:50.440
 Manasseh led Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem astray to do more evil than the nations whom

00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.519
 the Lord destroyed before the people of Israel.

00:27:53.339 --> 00:27:57.519
 Um, so not only does Manasseh show up and kind of endorse reestablishing idol worship,

00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.039
 he puts up his own idols.

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 Not only does he put up his own idols, he puts up idols inside of God's temple, which

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 is where like God's, the place that God's presence was on earth.

00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:11.019
 Uh, not only does he put up idols in God's temple, he puts it like in the inner sanctuary.

00:28:11.139 --> 00:28:12.779
 He says in like the, the two different courts.

00:28:12.859 --> 00:28:15.740
 So it's talking about like the place that they specifically believed God abided.

00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:20.160
 Uh, not only does he do that, he puts up idols to all the hosts of heaven inside of the

00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:20.420
 temple.

00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:25.079
 Um, not only does he do that, he sacrifices his own kids to a God.

00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.460
 Not only does he do that, he enlists basically.

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 Every help of every kind of magic that you're not allowed to in Israel.

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 Um, so that's why in verse nine, it says he did more evil than he led Israel to do more

00:28:37.339 --> 00:28:41.000
 evil than the nations that the Lord had punished before for other evils.

00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:46.240
 Um, now you might be wondering, okay, Jeremiah, why didn't you lead with this?

00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:47.980
 This feels like a chapter one, verse one kind of thing.

00:28:47.980 --> 00:28:51.920
 Like the word of the Lord to Jeremiah, you killed some kids.

00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.019
 And so judgment is coming.

00:28:53.019 --> 00:28:55.339
 Like that feels like the easy lead in, right?

00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:57.920
 Like, why is that not the main reason?

00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.019
 Cause I feel like it's easy for me to feel justified.

00:29:00.019 --> 00:29:03.980
 Like, yeah, if there's literal child sacrifice going on, like this makes sense.

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:09.680
 Um, and I, I think that, um, there's a couple reasons.

00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.820
 Um, one is it's probably already implicitly known what's going on.

00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.240
 Uh, Jeremiah started prophesying in the reign of the king, like immediately after Manasseh.

00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.279
 And that king was more righteous and tried to like reverse some of what Manasseh had done.

00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.759
 Um, and so it's probably known like what's going on.

00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.160
 Jeremiah probably doesn't have to say it explicitly in a lot of his prophecies.

00:29:28.660 --> 00:29:33.799
 Um, and then the second point though, is that idol worship is offensive to God in and of itself.

00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.579
 Um, now I don't want to equivocate child sacrifice with idol worship.

00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:43.140
 If you're debating today between sacrificing a kid to Molech or going home and watching too much TV,

00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:43.839
 go watch TV.

00:29:44.099 --> 00:29:45.680
 Like there's not even a question there.

00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:47.839
 The consequences of those two things are extremely different.

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 And I do think that God values children in a higher aspect because he cares for the poor

00:29:52.399 --> 00:29:53.319
 and the oppressed and the weaker.

00:29:54.099 --> 00:29:59.339
 In Matthew 18, six says, whoever causes one of these little ones to believe in me to sin,

00:29:59.619 --> 00:30:03.819
 it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned

00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:04.819
 in the depth of the sea.

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 So like God cares for that.

00:30:07.859 --> 00:30:11.279
 Um, but I do want to back up and clarify a little bit of what Christianity is all about,

00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:13.139
 particularly if you're not religious or you're skeptical.

00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:17.119
 Um, at this point, you're wondering why worshiping a specific God is so important.

00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:22.479
 Um, I think a common and acceptable viewpoint of religion generally today is that it's good

00:30:22.479 --> 00:30:23.599
 for a few reasons, right?

00:30:23.639 --> 00:30:24.659
 It's like self-improvement.

00:30:24.779 --> 00:30:26.319
 You get, you show commitment.

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 Uh, you get to be part of community.

00:30:27.879 --> 00:30:29.539
 Like, so religion is good in those aspects.

00:30:29.959 --> 00:30:31.319
 Um, these are all benefits.

00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:36.019
 Um, but I want to be clear that Christianity isn't mainly about being good people.

00:30:36.019 --> 00:30:37.079
 It's about knowing Jesus.

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 Um, there are lots of ways to try to be good people and to try for self-improvement, but

00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.139
 there is only one true God.

00:30:44.619 --> 00:30:46.559
 Uh, character improvement stems from that.

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 Uh, but I don't believe that we're here just to, just to be good people.

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.700
 The first commandment that Jesus gives, the most important thing is to love the Lord,

00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.500
 your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, all your strength.

00:30:57.500 --> 00:31:03.140
 Um, and knowing Jesus is important because we believe God actually empowers us to become

00:31:03.140 --> 00:31:03.599
 better people.

00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:04.720
 Like that's where it stems from.

00:31:05.180 --> 00:31:08.259
 Uh, there's a large self, like I said, there's a large self-improvement movement.

00:31:08.579 --> 00:31:12.460
 Uh, a lot of that movement is like a billion books and like, none of them are like, you

00:31:12.460 --> 00:31:15.099
 should be a better person or this is what it's like to be a better person.

00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.160
 They're all like, how do I become a better person?

00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.700
 Cause that's what everybody's really interested in.

00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:20.259
 Like, how do I get from point A to point B?

00:31:20.259 --> 00:31:26.099
 Um, and we believe that that's, as Christians, we believe Jesus works that change in us.

00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:31.140
 Um, and if you're focused on a God or different gods than Jesus, then he won't be affecting

00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:33.339
 that in your heart because you're focused on other things.

00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.720
 Um, I think a good example of like what Jesus can do past typical self-improvement is the

00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:39.500
 concept of forgiveness.

00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:44.799
 Um, so if you read self-help books or listen to, um, like people who are more agnostic talk

00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.480
 about forgiveness, often the focus of that is kind of like an internal freedom.

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.460
 Like if you're offended by somebody or hurt by somebody and you go and you forgive them,

00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:56.339
 um, then you're sort of released and at peace because you're not holding something against

00:31:56.339 --> 00:31:57.099
 anybody anymore.

00:31:57.099 --> 00:31:59.740
 And so you don't have to feel the pain that they've put on you.

00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:03.380
 Basically, that's a lot of like the forgiveness, self-improvement, uh, language.

00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:07.120
 Um, Christianity provides deeper forgiveness, right?

00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:11.599
 Uh, Jesus doesn't say, forgive your, forgive your enemy so that you feel better.

00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:15.259
 He says, love your enemy and pray for those that persecute you.

00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:18.380
 And so when I forgive as a Christian, my goal is not just my good.

00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:23.279
 My goal is literally my enemy's good because I once stood as an enemy to God and he forgave

00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:23.620
 me.

00:32:23.980 --> 00:32:27.160
 Um, so it opens up a whole new aspect of, of self-improvement.

00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.019
 That's not just about me.

00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:29.360
 It's about God in that aspect.

00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:34.420
 Um, and I think more importantly than just like, I should be a Christian for self-improvement,

00:32:34.740 --> 00:32:40.180
 uh, the importance of knowing Jesus and the centrality of that is because this is a relationship

00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:40.980
 with God, right?

00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:44.960
 God's not some like habit building miracle bystander that's like, oh good, you prayed to me three

00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:45.240
 times.

00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.519
 Now I'm going to make you a little bit more disciplined and you're good to go.

00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.660
 Like we're actually in a relationship with a being who loves us and wants us to love him

00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:53.039
 back.

00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:58.019
 Um, and it's, it's, it's sort of analogous to marriage where there's like the, the single

00:32:58.019 --> 00:32:59.400
 commitment to a single person.

00:32:59.779 --> 00:33:04.440
 Um, but instead of like the marital love being the focus, it's, it's worship is being the

00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:04.680
 focus.

00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.799
 Cause he is God and he alone is worthy of worship.

00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.779
 Um, and so when we give ourselves to other things besides God spiritually, we're cheating

00:33:13.779 --> 00:33:15.220
 on God and ourselves essentially.

00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.339
 That's why God is so upset over worshiping other gods because it hurts our committed and

00:33:19.339 --> 00:33:21.000
 exclusive worship with him.

00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:28.539
 Um, and so all of that is why I say the idolatry and the, and the actual like mortal sins against

00:33:28.539 --> 00:33:30.759
 other people are both significant in God's eyes.

00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.799
 Um, they compile to bring God to this point of, yes, I am bringing judgment upon you.

00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.379
 I'm going to fulfill my promises of judgment.

00:33:37.019 --> 00:33:41.180
 Um, so given that Judah has been worse than the other nations, God has judged before the

00:33:41.180 --> 00:33:46.019
 third time Jeremiah comes back to lament, um, he doesn't follow that up with a petition.

00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:53.079
 Um, so verses, uh, five through nine or like the third lament, uh, in verse five says,

00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.920
 who will have pity on you, O Jerusalem, or who will grieve for you?

00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.240
 Who will turn aside to ask about your welfare?

00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.299
 You have rejected me, declares the Lord.

00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:02.519
 You keep going backwards.

00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.380
 So I have stretched out my hand against you and destroyed you.

00:34:05.539 --> 00:34:07.059
 I am weary of relenting.

00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.380
 And so he asked like, who's going to pity you?

00:34:09.420 --> 00:34:10.579
 Sort of rhetorically, nobody.

00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:15.559
 Um, one commentator kind of explains it in the sense that mourners experience a loss of

00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.659
 wellbeing, uh, but like comfort and neighborly concern is, can really help with that.

00:34:19.739 --> 00:34:22.099
 So when you ask somebody that's going through something rough, like, how are you doing?

00:34:22.539 --> 00:34:25.099
 Um, can I pray for you when you offer specific ways to help?

00:34:25.099 --> 00:34:27.679
 Like those are things that are part of the restoration through mourning.

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.379
 Um, and when nobody's doing that, then you're truly lost, right?

00:34:31.399 --> 00:34:32.619
 You're truly on your own.

00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:36.779
 Um, what's happened is finally after enough rejection and after enough severity of sin,

00:34:37.059 --> 00:34:38.639
 God is weary of relenting.

00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.339
 So he's, he's tired of giving more and more grace and letting these things slip.

00:34:42.819 --> 00:34:44.859
 Um, he's shown a lot of mercy up to this point.

00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.319
 Many kings before Manasseh have done sinful things as well.

00:34:47.399 --> 00:34:48.960
 Israel has strayed away many times.

00:34:49.419 --> 00:34:53.679
 Um, but this persistent and escalating evil has finally brought him to the point of judgment.

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.819
 Um, and I think the logical question for us is like, how do we make sure that God doesn't

00:34:58.819 --> 00:35:00.500
 grow weary of relenting with us, right?

00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.379
 That should be kind of like the next question that pops into your head.

00:35:02.539 --> 00:35:04.279
 Like, uh, this is concerning.

00:35:04.379 --> 00:35:05.579
 Like, can I get to this point?

00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:06.379
 What's going on here?

00:35:06.859 --> 00:35:11.440
 Um, and I think that this is what makes the work of Jesus on the cross so significant,

00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:12.099
 right?

00:35:12.339 --> 00:35:16.819
 His promise is through Jesus, God is infinitely patient with us.

00:35:16.820 --> 00:35:22.960
 Um, and so in Galatians three, uh, Paul actually talks about the curses that we've been reading

00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.400
 about from Deuteronomy, right?

00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.480
 So he actually talks about how Jesus takes those curses that we've been reading about

00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.140
 in these past, past few passages on himself.

00:35:31.380 --> 00:35:37.260
 So Galatians 3 10 says, all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse for it is

00:35:37.260 --> 00:35:41.039
 written, cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the

00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.260
 law and do them.

00:35:42.260 --> 00:35:46.940
 And so the curses that we've seen Israel take today, Jesus takes those curses for us,

00:35:46.980 --> 00:35:47.160
 right?

00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:48.160
 He was famished.

00:35:48.520 --> 00:35:49.060
 He was beaten.

00:35:49.540 --> 00:35:50.900
 He died for us on the cross.

00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:55.420
 And so in verse 13 of Galatians three, Paul can say, Christ redeemed us from the curse

00:35:55.420 --> 00:35:57.360
 of the law by becoming a curse for us.

00:35:57.780 --> 00:36:02.180
 For it is written, cursed is everyone who was hanged on a tree so that in Christ Jesus,

00:36:02.300 --> 00:36:06.420
 the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles so that we might receive the promised

00:36:06.420 --> 00:36:07.320
 spirit through faith.

00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.480
 Um, now Galatians three is far more complex than the couple of thoughts I've shared here.

00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.659
 Uh, but what's significant is really that the curses described here are taken in Jesus's

00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:16.260
 death, right?

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.719
 And instead of those curses, we now receive blessings through the spirit.

00:36:20.139 --> 00:36:26.139
 Um, and for most of us who aren't like ethnic Jews, um, this is the ability to even be part

00:36:26.139 --> 00:36:27.460
 of the family of God comes through Jesus.

00:36:27.460 --> 00:36:29.240
 That's part of that redemption he's offering there.

00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:34.079
 Um, if you believe in Jesus, the fact is God's already relented in many things against you.

00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.860
 Um, and as Christians, I think the best way for us to check and say, like, how do we

00:36:39.860 --> 00:36:43.579
 know we're on this path of like, uh, how do we avoid idolatry?

00:36:43.820 --> 00:36:47.240
 Um, so that we avoid God's discipline, which I think still is in play because God will discipline

00:36:47.240 --> 00:36:48.240
 those he loves his sons.

00:36:48.900 --> 00:36:54.099
 Um, and really like the check for idolatry is like, what do our time and money reflect

00:36:54.099 --> 00:36:54.920
 for priorities?

00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:58.720
 Because those are like our two most expendable things, probably first time and then second

00:36:58.720 --> 00:36:59.039
 money.

00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.660
 Because you can, there are ways to generate more money, but there's not really ways to

00:37:01.660 --> 00:37:02.320
 generate more time.

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:08.220
 Um, so do you say you follow Jesus, but work 80 hours a week in a scenario where you're not

00:37:08.220 --> 00:37:09.340
 really forced to work that much?

00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:13.660
 Uh, do you say you follow Jesus, but give away like the remainder of your paycheck to

00:37:13.660 --> 00:37:17.340
 people, uh, rather than like slicing out a chunk to say specifically, like I'm giving

00:37:17.340 --> 00:37:19.800
 this towards charity or towards the poor or towards the church.

00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.840
 Um, you shouldn't ask me for financial advice.

00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.200
 I told one of you recently who said, I want to like manage my money better that you should

00:37:27.200 --> 00:37:27.920
 give more money away.

00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.740
 So if that's probably going to be my advice for you, unless you are literally living day

00:37:31.740 --> 00:37:33.039
 to day, then come talk to us.

00:37:33.059 --> 00:37:33.880
 Cause we'll help you with that.

00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.159
 Like I'm, I'm serious about that.

00:37:35.180 --> 00:37:37.180
 If you're financially struggling, let the church know we can help.

00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.760
 Um, and so I want to share, I, we've shared a lot of examples of like what idolatry is.

00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:47.019
 And I want to share an example that I've seen recently of what I like idolatry pivoted

00:37:47.019 --> 00:37:48.000
 towards God looks like.

00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:52.180
 Um, and so like worshiping God with time and money and really pouring those things into him.

00:37:52.500 --> 00:37:57.840
 Um, so I met someone, uh, I describe as an entrepreneur recently who is kind of, uh, like

00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:58.079
 I am.

00:37:58.140 --> 00:37:59.600
 He's an intern in a sovereign grace church.

00:38:00.180 --> 00:38:03.180
 Um, and so he's got classic traits of a strong businessman.

00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:05.640
 Uh, he knows how to invest money and where to put it.

00:38:05.720 --> 00:38:08.620
 He knows what people to invest time into and when to invest that time.

00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:11.220
 Um, what's interesting though, is that he's not an entrepreneur.

00:38:11.220 --> 00:38:15.519
 I don't think he started a single company, uh, sort of, um, he's actually a chemical engineer

00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:16.240
 and is nine to five.

00:38:16.340 --> 00:38:18.140
 And so he manages a lot of plants.

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:22.320
 Uh, but when he comes home, he's exercised a lot of that entrepreneurship through the church

00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:23.079
 and through the community.

00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:27.720
 Um, so he talked very freely with me, uh, about the amount of time he spent working with

00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:28.279
 college kids.

00:38:28.379 --> 00:38:29.399
 He lives in urban Philadelphia.

00:38:29.839 --> 00:38:33.159
 Uh, and he spent years and years and years just funneling college kids through basically

00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.119
 who came and said, I want to help, uh, this community.

00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:36.079
 Like I want to help the poor.

00:38:36.179 --> 00:38:37.299
 I have a heart for this or that.

00:38:37.459 --> 00:38:41.299
 And he's facilitated and made connections for them and, and help start up whole ministries

00:38:41.299 --> 00:38:41.579
 for them.

00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:45.319
 He told me that he literally, he saw a need for what he had the college kids coming in.

00:38:45.399 --> 00:38:47.819
 And so he's like, oh, well I'll just buy housing for them.

00:38:47.819 --> 00:38:48.799
 And so he invested in that.

00:38:49.219 --> 00:38:53.000
 Um, and then he saw the need for these college kids who are here for the summer to have a job,

00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:53.779
 to sustain themselves.

00:38:53.780 --> 00:38:56.320
 And also for people coming out of rehab to have a job.

00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.519
 And so he's got all these different connections and he's like, oh, I'll, you know, I'll spin

00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:00.240
 up a coffee shop.

00:39:00.620 --> 00:39:04.320
 Um, and we'll employ people there and we'll sell coffee in this main spot on the street.

00:39:04.680 --> 00:39:07.560
 Um, there's a lot of background to this of like God giving these things to him in many

00:39:07.560 --> 00:39:07.980
 ways too.

00:39:08.460 --> 00:39:10.240
 Um, but it was just amazing to me.

00:39:10.260 --> 00:39:13.880
 It's just like, I talk with, I work at a tech medium sized tech company.

00:39:13.940 --> 00:39:17.640
 I talk with pretty impressive entrepreneurs pretty frequently who use these efforts to like

00:39:17.640 --> 00:39:20.080
 spin up worldly things that aren't necessarily bad, right?

00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:20.980
 You're still employing people.

00:39:20.980 --> 00:39:25.420
 Um, and when I asked him, I was like, why and even how did you start doing?

00:39:26.099 --> 00:39:29.860
 Um, he told me that when he was around my age, uh, he read a short book by John Piper,

00:39:29.860 --> 00:39:31.920
 uh, with his pastor called Don't Waste Your Life.

00:39:32.539 --> 00:39:37.480
 Um, which I obviously didn't read closely enough based on how intensive he is that I've read

00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:37.740
 it too.

00:39:38.179 --> 00:39:42.820
 Um, and he realized like, he's like, I don't want to squander another moment on these things.

00:39:42.820 --> 00:39:44.780
 Like I'm going to make every moment count.

00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:49.320
 And so we even talked about like how he analyzes his individual days and how he's invested in

00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:50.600
 people and how he's weighed time.

00:39:51.059 --> 00:39:53.600
 Um, and just how it can be used best for Jesus.

00:39:53.940 --> 00:39:57.580
 And I'm not saying like, we all have to do what he does, nor am I saying this guy's perfect.

00:39:57.820 --> 00:40:00.640
 I think we all have like different paths to follow Jesus on in that sense.

00:40:00.860 --> 00:40:04.000
 But I just wanted to share like an example of like the positive side of like, we've been

00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.820
 talking about the negative of idolatry and what this can bring on you.

00:40:06.940 --> 00:40:11.860
 What does it look like when you follow Jesus with the same passion that the Israelites

00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:12.620
 followed idols?

00:40:13.080 --> 00:40:16.720
 Um, and if you're interested in talking to people like this, like that really strikes your heart.

00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.719
 Uh, there are a few people like that in this church too, and I'd be happy to like connect

00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:20.639
 you to talking with them.

00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:26.299
 Um, and so that's, uh, if you don't believe in Jesus, uh, and instead find yourself in

00:40:26.299 --> 00:40:30.039
 the spot where it's like, yeah, I guess I kind of do like place my ultimate trust in

00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.759
 like the money I make, or like I really find benefit from work or you're, you know, you

00:40:33.759 --> 00:40:34.779
 are in another religion.

00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.679
 Um, I'm, I want to be playing with what this passage says and what the Bible is saying,

00:40:38.799 --> 00:40:39.019
 right?

00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:43.299
 You sit under the potential of the same judgment, um, that Jeremiah has listed here.

00:40:43.300 --> 00:40:47.060
 Uh, I, God still takes seriously whether people worship him or not.

00:40:47.500 --> 00:40:49.480
 Um, I'm not going to park too long on that.

00:40:49.640 --> 00:40:50.700
 That's a quick intro to Jesus.

00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:54.000
 I'd be happy to talk with anybody after the service about that too, and what that looks

00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:54.680
 like to follow him.

00:40:55.160 --> 00:40:59.720
 Um, I want to hit up the last part of the passage here, uh, which is really of Jeremiah.

00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.960
 And so he pleads to the Lord and then the Lord, uh, talks back to him.

00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:09.640
 Um, and so Jeremiah's plea in verses 10 and then 15 through 18, uh, is basically like,

00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:14.940
 Jeremiah says like, woe is me in verse 10, my, my mother that you bore me a man of strife

00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:16.319
 and contention to the whole land.

00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.579
 Uh, I have not lent nor have I borrowed yet all of them curse me.

00:41:20.019 --> 00:41:22.980
 Um, and Jeremiah's saying like, what's going on here?

00:41:23.359 --> 00:41:26.579
 Jeremiah's whole ministry has been strife and contention essentially, because he's saying

00:41:26.579 --> 00:41:29.079
 things that nobody else is saying or that very few people are saying.

00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.779
 And so I'm not going to park along on that either because there's stories later in the

00:41:32.779 --> 00:41:36.279
 book that we'll look at of like where this happens, but there's like formal charges.

00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:37.900
 Like he's, they tried to throw him in jail.

00:41:38.019 --> 00:41:39.680
 There's informal, like yelling at other prophets.

00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:40.620
 There's disagreements.

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:42.460
 Uh, there's like prophecy show-offs.

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:47.260
 Um, this is not like Jeremiah's life is not fun basically is what he's saying.

00:41:47.660 --> 00:41:53.260
 Uh, and so God reassures him in 11 through 14 and says like, you know, I care for you.

00:41:53.340 --> 00:41:54.200
 I'll make you strong.

00:41:54.300 --> 00:41:56.320
 And the prophecies you're saying are true, right?

00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:57.640
 This judgment's going to come on Israel.

00:41:57.980 --> 00:42:02.620
 Uh, but Jeremiah comes back in 15 and says, you know, Lord, you know, remember me and

00:42:02.620 --> 00:42:05.200
 visit me and take vengeance for me on my persecutors.

00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.239
 Um, in your forbearance, take me not away.

00:42:08.619 --> 00:42:11.039
 Know that for your sake, I bear reproach.

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:15.980
 Um, and then he talks about basically verse 16.

00:42:16.099 --> 00:42:18.359
 He says, your words were found and I ate them.

00:42:18.460 --> 00:42:22.739
 And so he's talking about when he was originally called to be a prophet back in, um, like chapter

00:42:22.739 --> 00:42:23.559
 one that we looked at.

00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.439
 Um, and God says, I'll put my words in your mouth.

00:42:26.799 --> 00:42:29.719
 Uh, and Jeremiah is saying, you know, this was a joy and a delight.

00:42:30.139 --> 00:42:34.139
 Uh, when I started out in prophecy and verse 17, I didn't sit in the company of revelers.

00:42:34.139 --> 00:42:36.099
 I sat alone because your hand was on me.

00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.299
 Uh, there's often with prophets, like they had to sit, uh, they had to like distance themselves

00:42:40.299 --> 00:42:41.579
 from the people after they were called.

00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.879
 Um, I think specifically in this case too, like Jeremiah was called at almost the exact

00:42:45.879 --> 00:42:49.519
 same time that Josiah was doing some restorations.

00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.139
 And like, they found part of the, part of the word of the Lord.

00:42:52.259 --> 00:42:55.559
 They hadn't, that the people hadn't seen a long time and everyone's celebrating and

00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:58.019
 they're doing a Passover for a first time and doing a lot of things again.

00:42:58.019 --> 00:43:00.119
 So there's a lot of celebrations that are positive going on.

00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.000
 Um, and Jeremiah is sitting over in the corner, like receiving, beginning to receive words

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:05.920
 from the Lord of like, there's punishment coming.

00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:10.119
 Um, and so like, I think that's part of what kept him sitting alone too.

00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:17.139
 Um, so Jeremiah has got one of the like worst prophetic gig gigs, I think in the Bible looking

00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:20.739
 at this, like he gets to sit there and he wrote lamentations too.

00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:25.940
 Um, so he gets to sit there and like talk about all the bad stuff that's coming basically.

00:43:25.940 --> 00:43:27.800
 So like, I get that, right?

00:43:27.860 --> 00:43:29.240
 Like this looks really cool.

00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:30.320
 God's going to speak through me.

00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:31.400
 He gave me his word.

00:43:31.500 --> 00:43:32.019
 This is great.

00:43:32.340 --> 00:43:32.700
 Oh great.

00:43:32.780 --> 00:43:35.119
 All of his words are judgment upon people and everyone disagrees with me.

00:43:35.619 --> 00:43:39.679
 Um, I think that we can sympathize with that in like smaller levels.

00:43:39.860 --> 00:43:42.579
 Um, I think of like people who joined the church plant early here.

00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.460
 Uh, I feel like joining a church plant, like right when it starts, uh, is always pretty

00:43:46.460 --> 00:43:46.700
 cool.

00:43:46.780 --> 00:43:47.760
 It's like we're on the ground level.

00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:48.980
 This is all new things going on.

00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.599
 And then you unload boxes for a straight year every Sunday morning and every Sunday afternoon.

00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.159
 And all of a sudden you're like, this isn't so fun anymore.

00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:57.579
 Like what's going on here?

00:43:58.099 --> 00:44:01.920
 Um, so there's like, I think there's like shadows of this kind of effort and this kind

00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:04.339
 of calling in our lives too, uh, that God calls us to.

00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.940
 Um, and so God's response, uh, hear his response.

00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.519
 It's not exactly what Jeremiah wanted to hear or exactly what he asked for.

00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.940
 Um, but I think it's good because it's from the Lord.

00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.719
 Um, and so he says, if you return, I will restore you and you shall stand before me in verse

00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:21.179
 19.

00:44:21.739 --> 00:44:26.519
 Uh, and he also says in verse 21, I will deliver you out of the hand of the wicked and redeem

00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:27.839
 you from the grasp of the ruthless.

00:44:28.579 --> 00:44:32.119
 Um, another thing I want to highlight too is at the end of verse 19, he says, they shall

00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:33.819
 turn to you, but you shall not turn to them.

00:44:34.539 --> 00:44:38.319
 Um, and I think what's probably going on here, God's like, okay, cool.

00:44:38.399 --> 00:44:41.119
 We're going to keep doing this prophecy thing, but you got to come back to me.

00:44:41.139 --> 00:44:42.879
 You got to meet me where the prophecy is.

00:44:43.019 --> 00:44:47.019
 And so I think the temptation Jeremiah is going through is like, this sucks.

00:44:47.019 --> 00:44:48.599
 Like I don't want to prophesy anymore.

00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:51.480
 Um, or I kind of want to like acquiesce to the people.

00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.800
 I want to give them something that's like, sounds a little bit better.

00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.500
 Um, so I don't know whether we don't know whether he actually did that or not.

00:44:57.619 --> 00:44:59.059
 There seems to be some callback of God.

00:44:59.139 --> 00:45:01.219
 Like you got to turn back to me here.

00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:02.079
 You got to return to me.

00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.659
 Um, and then I'll give you words and then you'll see like you are strong again.

00:45:05.659 --> 00:45:08.280
 Like the people will turn to you, but you won't even care what they think.

00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:09.340
 You'll turn away from them.

00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:12.880
 Um, and this is good advice generally, right?

00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.000
 I do consulting with customers who pay my business a lot of money.

00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.260
 Um, my experience telling good news early is actually good thing to do.

00:45:20.300 --> 00:45:24.380
 Even though people don't like you in the moment when a serious crisis is averted that costs

00:45:24.380 --> 00:45:26.820
 a lot of money down the road, they appreciate it then.

00:45:26.820 --> 00:45:27.220
 Right?

00:45:27.539 --> 00:45:31.300
 So spreading bad news is not necessarily a bad thing.

00:45:31.380 --> 00:45:32.880
 It's just not a fun thing.

00:45:33.300 --> 00:45:38.160
 Um, and so the disappointing part for Jeremiah too, is probably like, even if he says the hard

00:45:38.160 --> 00:45:42.860
 truths, like he's like, yeah, you will notice Jeremiah is like squash my enemy.

00:45:42.980 --> 00:45:45.220
 And God's like, I'm going to deliver you from your enemies.

00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.079
 And Jeremiah is probably like, come on, man.

00:45:47.140 --> 00:45:49.300
 Like, can you give me something a little more here?

00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:56.160
 Um, and so I think that, uh, what we, what Jeremiah hears is something that we often hear

00:45:56.160 --> 00:45:59.860
 or often need to hear and is reflective of like things that Christians wrestle with today.

00:46:00.420 --> 00:46:05.980
 Um, so there are difficult things that God calls us to, um, including like specifically

00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:06.820
 what we believe.

00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:09.700
 Uh, and then there are difficult people that we have in our lives too.

00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:11.619
 And I think that carries over well to us.

00:46:11.619 --> 00:46:16.219
 Uh, and I, Jeremiah likely has more of these than any of us ever will, but that makes him

00:46:16.219 --> 00:46:18.000
 a good person to learn from in this instance.

00:46:18.619 --> 00:46:24.319
 Um, as far as difficult things, God calls us to and calls us to believe, uh, as a Christian,

00:46:24.319 --> 00:46:27.199
 there's a lot of things like there's some things that fit well within our culture.

00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:29.319
 And then there's some things that don't fit so well within our culture.

00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:34.320
 Uh, and I feel like in conversation with each other, uh, it's easy to like, if someone's

00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.220
 like, I'm struggling with something, it's easy to be like, oh, that's fine.

00:46:37.220 --> 00:46:38.900
 Rather than kind of pushing back and encouraging.

00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.980
 Uh, I feel like in conversations with other people about, oh, you're go to church.

00:46:43.019 --> 00:46:43.539
 What's that about?

00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.840
 It's easy to kind of like smooth that over and just talk about the parts that are like

00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:48.539
 acceptable rather than Jesus.

00:46:48.539 --> 00:46:53.659
 Um, and so I think it's easy to like cheapen what we believe in that sense and like kind

00:46:53.659 --> 00:46:54.579
 of take the edge off.

00:46:55.059 --> 00:46:57.920
 Um, and so we have the same temptation Jeremiah does in that aspect.

00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:03.420
 Um, and so I think that the irony of softening any message that we have to say is that it

00:47:03.420 --> 00:47:04.199
 cheapens it.

00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:04.559
 Right.

00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:08.619
 So the real value, like the real reason I'm a Christian is because of all the complexities

00:47:08.619 --> 00:47:09.199
 of God.

00:47:09.699 --> 00:47:13.519
 Um, and the beauty of the church and like the history and tradition.

00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.500
 And like, there's so much that goes on behind that.

00:47:15.500 --> 00:47:20.340
 And how do I expect somebody else to be a Christian if I'm like hiding part of that from them that

00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:22.579
 I think is going to hurt them or offend them or something like that.

00:47:23.059 --> 00:47:27.179
 Um, and so I think that that call to be, to be robust in how we talk about Jesus and what

00:47:27.179 --> 00:47:28.820
 we believe is really important.

00:47:29.380 --> 00:47:32.619
 Um, and then the other pieces is difficult people we have in our lives.

00:47:33.019 --> 00:47:34.579
 Um, God doesn't promise to get rid of them.

00:47:35.059 --> 00:47:36.300
 Um, sorry about that.

00:47:36.300 --> 00:47:40.719
 And I think that specifically we don't, we don't really have like, uh, what I'd call institutionalized

00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:41.860
 persecution in the United States.

00:47:41.860 --> 00:47:43.900
 So like there, our church doesn't have to meet underground.

00:47:43.900 --> 00:47:45.660
 Uh, there's no state sanctioned church.

00:47:45.980 --> 00:47:48.139
 Uh, there's no like talk track that we're supposed to go through.

00:47:48.660 --> 00:47:52.820
 Um, but there are instances, and I know I've talked with some of you of like people that

00:47:52.820 --> 00:47:56.760
 you work with or live with or know are like pushing back on you or give you a hard time

00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:00.320
 about being a Christian, um, or give you a difficult time at your work and moving up

00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:00.820
 or in school.

00:48:00.940 --> 00:48:03.300
 There's a lot of like individual things that can happen.

00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:09.539
 Um, if you feel like you're in that spot, like trust God that he will deliver you out of

00:48:09.539 --> 00:48:10.780
 that hand, the hand of that person.

00:48:10.780 --> 00:48:12.000
 I really encourage you that.

00:48:12.780 --> 00:48:18.160
 Um, and I, I think probably the, the best way to wrap this up of like the difficulty

00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:23.140
 of this is like, what we're really struggling with is like, is God good some of the time

00:48:23.140 --> 00:48:24.080
 or is he good all the time?

00:48:24.640 --> 00:48:28.140
 Um, and when he doesn't look good, how do we react to that essentially?

00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.660
 Um, so I'll close with a quote from C.S.

00:48:31.700 --> 00:48:32.920
 Lewis from the Screwtape Letters.

00:48:33.540 --> 00:48:38.080
 Um, Screwtape Letters just for context is a discussion of a fictional discussion between

00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.119
 demons basically of like how to tempt people and how to draw people away from God and like,

00:48:42.259 --> 00:48:42.860
 what's dangerous?

00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:44.159
 What would draw people back to God?

00:48:44.819 --> 00:48:48.519
 Um, and so one demon says to another, don't be deceived.

00:48:48.940 --> 00:48:54.340
 Our cause is never more in danger than when a human no longer desiring, but still intending

00:48:54.340 --> 00:48:59.279
 to do our enemy's will looks round upon a universe from which every trace of him seems to have

00:48:59.279 --> 00:49:01.619
 vanished and asks why he has been forsaken.

00:49:01.619 --> 00:49:03.139
 And yet he still obeys.

00:49:04.579 --> 00:49:08.139
 Um, so at this time, uh, we'll move into prayer in just a minute.

00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.339
 Um, we take a time of silent reflection.

00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.380
 Um, so I'm going to ask everyone to silently reflect on the message, uh, and consider what

00:49:14.380 --> 00:49:16.299
 God might have for you, for you from this.