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 Let me pray.

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 Heavenly Father, we thank you for the cross of Christ.

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 We thank you for our Saviour and all that he has done for us.

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! We thank you that he is our great high priest,

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 the one who has made atonement for our sins.

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 We thank you for the forgiveness that we have in him.

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 And as we consider his cross today, as we consider the atonement,

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 help us to understand these things that are far too deep for us.

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 But by your Spirit, please give us some understanding of this,

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 a greater appreciation of all that the Lord Jesus has done.

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 And we ask this in his name. Amen.

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 So if you're new or you're just jumping in to this series,

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 this term, we're thinking about the atonement.

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 So that's the title of this term, the atonement.

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 And what the atonement means, we're thinking about what Christ was doing on the cross.

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 Okay?

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 What Christ was doing on the cross.

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 And just a heads up, we're going to be doing it.

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 Usually I do every Sunday School series in half terms.

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 So usually we'd finish by this coming half term.

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 I'm actually going to extend this over two half terms.

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 This is going to be like a mega, mega series.

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 So we're going to do all of this, this term, this half term and next.

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 So there's lots more to come.

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 And last session, we saw what the cross is all about.

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 So the first one, we saw the need for the atonement.

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 And then we saw what the cross was all about.

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 What's happening on the cross.

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 And we saw Christ's death is not just a random death.

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 It's not just an unfortunate death.

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 No, Christ's death is a sacrifice that makes us one with God.

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 So just like the Old Testament priests would make sacrifices, in that same way, Christ was a sacrifice.

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 So on the cross, all our sin and guilt and the debt all went on to Christ on the cross.

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 So this is his people here.

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 All the debt went on to Christ.

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 And he substituted in for us.

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 That's the little dotted line.

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 So he substituted, swapped in for us and identified with our sin.

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 And the sin of debt went on to him.

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 And so he bore the wrath of God.

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 The wrath of God that is rightly deserved, the penalty for our sin.

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 That was all diverted and borne on to Christ.

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 Christ, he paid the penalty that was deserved for our sins.

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 And by doing so, he reconciled us to God.

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 So that broken relationship because of the debt and the wrath, we weren't reconciled.

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 And so we needed to be reconciled.

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 And so on the cross, Christ was reconciling us back to God.

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 And so he achieved three things.

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 Redemption, meaning ransom.

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 He paid for our debt.

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 Propitiation, which means he appeased God's wrath.

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 Ended God's wrath because it was diverted away from us.

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 And he reconciled us.

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 So these three things.

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 And this is atonement.

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 When we speak of atonement, it means at-one-ment.

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 Making us at one with God.

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 And what does that involve?

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 That involves these three things.

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 They're kind of the three ingredients to atonement, you could say.

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 And this is what happened with the Old Testament sacrifices we saw last week.

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 And this is what happened to Christ.

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 The Old Testament kind of gives the shape of what Christ is doing.

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 But today, I want us to ask an important question.

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 If this is what Christ was doing, if this is what was happening on the cross, and this is what Christ was achieving,

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 who was he doing it for?

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 Who are these people here?

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 I want us to answer the question today, who did Christ die for?

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 Or if you want to be grammatically correct, for whom did Christ die?

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 That's the correct term.

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 That's kind of how people phrase it.

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 I know whom is the correct term, but it feels weird saying it.

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 Like, no one says whom.

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 You're going to get laughed at if you say whom.

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 Who did Christ die for?

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 Okay?

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 And you may not have thought about this question.

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 Or maybe you think it's a bit of an odd question to even bring it up.

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 But I want us to see that this is really important to understand the atonement.

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 It's important to appreciate all that Christ has done on the cross.

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 And so, who did Christ die for?

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 I wanted to jump straight in.

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 There are three major views.

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 Okay?

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 View one.

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 You can see this at the top left of your page.

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 View one.

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 Christ died for everyone.

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 Okay?

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 So, Christ actually died for every single person.

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 Actually paid for all their sins.

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 And so, reconciled every single person on the planet, throughout history.

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 Every single person.

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 He reconciled back to God.

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 And so, to jump to the conclusion of this.

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 That means that there'll be no one in hell.

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 That there's no judgment falling on absolutely anyone.

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 And so, everyone will be in the new creation.

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 Okay?

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 And I'm going to just quickly dismiss this one.

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 Because that is just unthinkable.

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 Okay?

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 Right?

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 We have our doctrine of hell.

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 We have our doctrine of judgment.

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 We have our understanding of the need for the gospel.

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 If everyone's going to the creation, there's no need for the gospel.

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 Don't worry about it.

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 Why would Christ tell anyone to preach the gospel?

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 Okay?

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 So, view one does make any sense at all.

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 We can't think that.

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 And so, we're not going to get into that today.

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 Okay?

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 You can ask me more afterwards if you want.

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 But view two, we're going to consider a bit more.

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 So, view two is that Christ died hypothetically for everyone.

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 Okay?

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 So, this says that Christ died generally for everyone.

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 There was an intention that he generally died for everyone.

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 He died to make salvation possible for everyone.

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 He died to make humanity savable.

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 But the cross is only made effective to the elect.

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 To those whom God chooses.

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 So, in this view, the cross is a bit like a medicine box.

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 Right?

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 So, when Christ died, he made this medicine box with, you know, a trillion pills.

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 Right?

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 I've made this for everyone.

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 Christ died generally for everyone.

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 But not everyone will actually get one of those pills.

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 Okay?

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 It's only those who receive it, who believe, who God has chosen.

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 Okay?

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 So, that's view two.

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 But view three is that Christ died for his people.

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 So, Christ died for a specific number of people.

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 Not everyone.

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 But his people.

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 And all those people will be saved.

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 There's not a question about it.

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 And this view is often called limited atonement.

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 Or definite atonement.

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 I'm going to use the word definite atonement.

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 I think that's a better term for...

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 Well, we'll find out why that's a better term.

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 And I want us to see today and be convinced of this third position.

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 All right?

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 Christ died for his people.

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 Who are these people?

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 Who are the people Christ died for?

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 It is his chosen people.

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 You could say it's the elect.

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 But today, I also want to address why people might have issues with this position.

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 And maybe you're coming with questions and maybe it's not sitting right at the moment.

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 I want to address some of those issues.

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 And the common issues are often...

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 What about the all verses?

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 Okay?

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 So, 1 Timothy 2.

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 Christ gave himself as a ransom for all.

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 Romans 5.

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 One act of righteousness leads to justification in life for all men.

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 Okay?

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 So, what about the all verses?

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 What about the world verses?

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 So, the famous one.

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 1 John 2.

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 He's the propitiation for our sins.

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 And not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

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 Huh.

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 What's going on there?

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 And another common objection is...

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 What about evangelism?

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 So, if Christ didn't die for all people...

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 If that's not how we're going to say it...

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 Then, how can we offer the gospel to all people?

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 And another objection would be...

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 Well, it's to do with the name limited atonement.

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 Right?

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 That's what it's often called.

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 How can we say that Christ's cross is limited?

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 Doesn't that say Christ's mercy is limited or his power is limited?

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 And small in some way.

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 And some people say, we don't want to limit the cross.

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 So, we're not going to go with limited atonement.

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 Well, how do we answer all this?

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 Well, I want us to see why positively...

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 First of all, positively...

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 Why we must think of the atonement as this third position is definite atonement.

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 And I want us to make a case for that.

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 And then we can answer some of these questions.

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 Like, what about the alls?

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 What about the world?

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 And I'll try to answer maybe the limited atonement question along the way.

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 But I want us to jump in.

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 And I want us to think about all this in the right way.

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 And to do that, we need to see Christ went to the cross with two things on him.

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 He went with two things on him.

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 Christ went to the cross with a belt and a treasure chest.

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 Okay?

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 So, to understand definite atonement, to understand the cross, you need to understand that Christ died for his people.

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 And to see that, you need to understand a belt and a treasure chest.

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 So, the first point, Christ died for his people.

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 So, two things I want us to see.

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 The first is a belt.

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 Christ went to the cross wearing a belt.

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 I mean, metaphorically, right?

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 He wasn't actually wearing a belt.

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 So, if you cast your minds back to our Sunday school on covenants, on the two giants.

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 Don't worry if you weren't there.

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 But if you were, try to cast your mind back on the two giants, Adam and Christ.

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 So, do you remember there are two giants of the Bible?

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 Adam and Christ.

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 And on the belt of these two giants, attached to these two giants, are people.

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 So, you are either in Adam or you are in Christ.

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 So, Romans 5.

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 For as by the one man's disobedience, the many were made sinners.

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 Adam's disobedience made many sinners.

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 But the one man's obedience, the many will be made righteous.

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 So, two people, two effects on two different people.

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 So, 1 Corinthians 15.

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 For as in Adam all die.

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 Everyone attached to Adam will die.

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 So, also in Christ shall all be made alive.

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 And Thomas Goodwin, a theologian, he phrased it like this.

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 This is a helpful way to picture it.

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 In God's sight, there are two men.

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 Adam and Jesus Christ.

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 And these two men have all other men hanging from their girdle strings.

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 Belt.

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 Okay.

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 Right.

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 So, all of humanity across all time and space.

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 They are split into two groups.

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 And they're hanging from two different belts.

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 Adam and Christ.

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 And so, whatever happens to these two giants happens to everyone attached to them.

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 So, if Adam falls, if the giant falls, everyone falls with them.

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 If a giant stands, if Christ stands, everyone stands with them.

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 And I want us to see being attached to these giants.

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 This doesn't just mean at the end of time, everyone will eventually end up on these giants.

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 No.

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 I want us to see everything that Christ did in his ministry, he did with a specific people already attached to his belt.

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 And that includes dying on the cross.

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 And I want us to see that.

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 We've got a big breakout section.

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 So, look at the dotted box.

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 Lots of questions.

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 Lots of verses.

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 Break out into groups.

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 Answer these questions.

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 And I want us to see this giant in action in the Bible.

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 I'll give you five minutes for this.

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 There we go.

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 One more minute.

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 it sounds like people are finished maybe we'll wrap up in a few seconds

00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:51.000
 okay let's wrap it up there so first question i won't pick on anyone let's just think about this

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 according to the new testament who has christ come to save that let's just look at the language

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 it's quite specific isn't it he didn't come to save every single person in the world not everyone will

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 enter the kingdom no jesus came to save his his specific people matthew 1 he came to save his

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 church his bride his friends that's who he's laying his life down for and that is a specific known

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 people and so so think about john 10 so he speaks of his sheep he says he knows his sheep right

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 that's not every single person he has sheep that belong to him and he knows who they are

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 it's the flock that he knows and it's and it's those he is laying his life down for

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 and also it's a specific people known by the father too do you see that so the father has given jesus

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 a people the father has said here is a people now go and save them right so that's the language that we

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 see in the new testament and how does christ save these people so he's got people to save how does

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 he save them it is through the cross so the bible is clear that the cross does something so the cross

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 is how jesus saves his people and so if jesus came to save a specific people and the cross is how he

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 saves them then there is a very specific intention to the cross and that's key it's the intention behind

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 going to the cross right jesus says i am going to the cross to save my people the specific people that

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 i know and that the father has given me they're the ones i'm going to the cross for because they

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 are the ones i'm going to save and the cross is how i save them and this this isn't out of the blue

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 this isn't us trying to kind of cram this onto the new testament's phrasing no this is the exact shape

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 of the atonement in the old testament so according to the old testament when the priest made sacrifices

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 who were they intended for intention what was the intention behind the sacrifices so look look back

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 to the day of atonement leviticus 16 the high priest made atonement for the people for god's specific

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 people and so notice it doesn't say that he uh it doesn't say he uh he doesn't kill the goats uh

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 it doesn't say he kills the goat for israel and the philistines and the assyrians and the egyptians

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 does it and he doesn't say this sacrifice is generally for all nations or just generally

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 for anyone ambiguously um but really only israel are going to see it and know about it and therefore

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 it'll apply to them no the priest doesn't even have the philistines in mind when he's doing this

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 no the sacrifice is intended for a specific people god's people and so related to that whose sin did

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 the sacrifice atone for right what was the effect um uh what did who did the sacrifice can um apply to

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 in effect well even on the individual scale we see this here in in that verse when one person sins

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 any atoning sacrifice that is made it covers their specific sin so the priest shall make atonement

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 for him for his sin so it's not just a vague sacrifice that just covers sin in general

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 and then he comes along and maybe the sinner trusts in it and then it covers his sin

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 no that there was a specific intention it covers his specific sin or think of the day of atonement with

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 the goat remember we thought about that last week so the priest lays his hands on a goat and confesses

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 specific sins onto that goat that the goat doesn't just bear sin of the world generally around us no it

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 doesn't just suffer in general it suffers for those specific sins of that specific people

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 and so when the high priest made the sacrifices and then entered the holy place was he just acting for

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 himself or just acting vaguely in general as a vague priest no he was carrying people with him

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 so that the 12 tribes were written on his breastplate so you could say the people specific people were

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 written on his heart and that people came in with the high priest and he sacrificed and made atonement

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 for them that the people on him so not the philistines not the egyptians not generally all people

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 are on his heart no god's people so so the priest represents a specific people

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 so we can see here whenever a sacrifice is made it isn't just generally made and then it's up for

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 grabs for whoever may or may not take it it's not like a medicine box with lots of pills

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 where there it is just go and grab it maybe some will grab it maybe some won't no whenever a sacrifice

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 is made it is always intended for a specific people

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 and that is how we need to think about the cross christ died not just for a general people but

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 carrying a specific particular definite number of people with him and so we can think of him wearing a

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 belt so just like adam and christ you know the two giants wear belts think of christ wearing a belt on the

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 cross metaphorical belt so just like the priests wore a breastplate making sacrifices and then entering

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 into god's presence with god's people on him not the whole planet well christ on the cross he is like a

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 giant wearing a belt on that cross carrying a people carrying his people his bride his church

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 his flock and dying for them so on the cross he was wearing a belt

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 so let's draw a belt here right that's a belt there are lots of hooks on that belt

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 on that hook for all his people

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 all his people that he's substituting him for

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 and so you can think when you're in christ you can say you can think he was carrying you

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 on his belt on the cross he was carrying me with him on the cross on his belt

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 and everyone who will be in his kingdom was on that belt his people we can say he died for us

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 for our sins and so yes christ is a substitute we thought about that last week he's a substitute

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 for sinners but but on the cross he's even more than that he's a representative for his people he's

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 not only substituting he's representing them and so think of a substitute in football so we thought

00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:33.180
 about that last week so if you come off the pitch and someone else substitutes on for you and they play

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 um that and let's say that person goes and scores a goal right uh and they win the game uh they win it

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 for you don't they they're representing the whole team when they sub on and score the goal they're winning

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 it for their team and not all teams not the other team right that they're subbing in and representing

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 your team well that is just like christ he represents us and wins atonement for his people

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 and this is what the confession articulates so have a look at westminster confession 11 4

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 god did from all eternity decree to justify all the elect his people his flock and christ did

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 in the fullness of time die for their sins whose sins the elect and rise again for their justification

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 nevertheless they are not justified until the holy spirit doth in due time actually apply christ unto

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 them think of last sunday school and the holy spirit and so i think you can see here that this is linked to

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 election i know this might be opening up a whole nother topic um this is linked to to election and that's

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 important god knows who he will save that the father already had a people to save and so he gives that

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 people to christ to save now we don't have a list of who those people are that is a secret for god to

00:27:06.360 --> 00:27:14.440
 know that that is in the mind of god hidden but god does know that and so he's chosen to save that people

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 and this is why it's called limited atonement or sometimes called limited atonement not because

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 it's limited in power or limited a limit of god's mercy like oh yeah god's not that merciful it's not

00:27:30.420 --> 00:27:36.100
 limiting god's mercy he's not saying it's small but it's called limited atonement because the cross

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 is limited limited to a specific number of people but there are not those who will never be in a new

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 creation

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 there are not these people also included it is limited to his people and that's why i think definite

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:08.600
 atonement is probably a better term uh um i think that yeah try to use that term uh definite it suggests

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 that there is something definite and intentional about the cross and that's i think key to how to

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 think about this it's the intention what is christ and god's intention going to the cross it's to save

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 the people on his belt and so think of a belt but also and i'll stop for questions at the end

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 uh also think of a treasure chest so uh you remember a sin debt hangs over our heads doesn't it

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 and that debt that is what is owed to god that debt is our lives remember the soul that sins shall die

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 and so what happened on the cross jesus paid that debt for us with his own life he redeemed us paid

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 that debt by dying and so uh let's just keep thinking about that think of uh being in debt to a bank okay

00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:15.960
 so let's say you owe a bank a trillion trillion pounds right just just infinite money and you just can

00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:22.660
 never repay it this is this is the this is the parable jesus makes in matthew 18 and you can just

00:29:22.660 --> 00:29:31.259
 never repay it uh well the cross is like jesus carrying a treasure chest full of wealth infinite

00:29:31.259 --> 00:29:39.200
 wealth into that bank into your bank going to your bank account and just handing over that treasure chest

00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:46.480
 and paying it all for you paying all that debt wiping it out and it's an infinitely valuable treasure

00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:54.240
 chest because if you come back to the cross he is the treasure chest it's his life it's infinitely

00:29:54.240 --> 00:30:02.620
 valuable and so the cross is like jesus going to the bank and actually paying your debt it's a payment

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 and so the cross actually does something the cross doesn't just potentially save people it doesn't

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 just potentially pay a debt it actually pays a debt it is the payment into uh into the account

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 it intentionally saves people so look at revelation 5 for you were slain and by your blood you ransomed

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 people for god ransomed redeemed redemption paying the debt mark 10 for even the son of man came not to

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 be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom a payment a redemption for many and tied to

00:30:45.619 --> 00:30:55.079
 christ who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and so christ actually did something

00:30:55.079 --> 00:31:03.960
 on that good friday he didn't just make us redeemable he didn't just potentially redeem us no he actually

00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:12.279
 redeemed us something was handed over to god in on that day a payment was actually made and so if you

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:20.480
 think of a treasure chest a treasure chest christ was actually handed over on that good friday he didn't

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 just pay a debt in general and say okay now it's up for grabs some people may have their debts wiped out

00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:34.039
 maybe not take it or leave it no debt is always specific to sin and that's just like the old

00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:41.180
 testament sacrifices it's linked to personal guilt right it's payment for specific sins of specific people

00:31:41.180 --> 00:31:52.820
 so just like the one peter two he himself bore our sins in his body on the tree our personal sins were on

00:31:52.820 --> 00:32:02.039
 there our personal debt whose sins ours his people the people on his belt jesus hands over the treasure

00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:09.120
 chest of his life for the people on his belt and the confession again is summarizes this well look at

00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:17.319
 8.5 the lord jesus christ by his perfect obedience and sacrifice of himself which he through the eternal

00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:24.259
 spirit once offered up unto god hath fully satisfied the justice of his father fully satisfied debt ended

00:32:24.259 --> 00:32:32.779
 and purchased not only reconciliation but an everlasting inheritance in the kingdom of heaven for all those

00:32:32.779 --> 00:32:39.279
 whom the father who's whom the father hath given unto him so christ made a perfect and complete payment for us

00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:46.779
 and that payment settled the debt the treasure chest and the treasure chest it was so valuable in fact

00:32:46.779 --> 00:32:54.940
 do you see it purchased something so it not only settled the debt and it not only achieved reconciliation

00:32:54.940 --> 00:33:01.660
 not only reconciliation but an everlasting inheritance in the kingdom of heaven for all those

00:33:01.660 --> 00:33:04.500
 whom the father hath given unto him

00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:08.940
 so do you see that there is a link between who christ died for

00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:16.200
 and who will actually be saved the debt is paid for those who will be in the everlasting kingdom

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 and if we're to say otherwise okay let's just zoom out and just maybe kind of put on the other hat all

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 right let's say this isn't the case or let's say um someone believes this isn't the case

00:33:31.779 --> 00:33:41.279
 it presents two really big problems because think about it let's say christ died for all people

00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:47.619
 every single human being that will ever live and that's the way the father designed the cross

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 even i'm not talking about saving absolutely i'm talking about hypothetically dying for all people

00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:59.279
 and let's say that's the way the father designed the cross and christ goes to the cross and he's

00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:06.899
 thinking i'm laying down my life for everyone ever i'm producing a medicine box for everyone with a

00:34:06.900 --> 00:34:14.800
 with a trillion plus pills but it turns out not everyone will actually be saved by this

00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:22.599
 it presents two really big problems that means first of all the cross isn't powerful enough

00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:31.860
 he went to save them he had them in mind but they didn't get saved he redeemed them from sin

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:39.140
 but it didn't work because their sins then remain on them basically the treasure chest isn't valuable

00:34:39.140 --> 00:34:47.280
 enough which is just unthinkable to say of christ's death so that's the first thing and the second

00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:53.860
 problem is that if christ pays the debt for everyone so some something was actually happening on the cross

00:34:53.860 --> 00:34:59.500
 not potentially it was actually happening and he actually paid the debt of everyone hypothetically

00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:06.579
 right and then potentially everyone will um kind of come and accept that uh that payment of debt

00:35:06.579 --> 00:35:14.840
 if christ pays that debt but some don't accept the payment and then they go to hell let's say like

00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:23.719
 these type of people that means they also have to pay the debt for their sins and so uh think of it like this

00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:33.379
 so let's say let's say christ died for everyone this is everyone this is everyone who lived in the past

00:35:33.379 --> 00:35:40.279
 in the future absolutely everyone let's say christ in kind of went to the cross intentionally for them

00:35:40.279 --> 00:35:46.519
 this is view number two and then all that debt went on to christ that that's what we've seen uh

00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:52.480
 uh happened on the cross so all that debt went on to christ he substituted in for everyone and represented

00:35:52.480 --> 00:36:04.500
 everyone but let's say someone because this is everyone someone doesn't accept that payment and they

00:36:04.500 --> 00:36:08.739
 uh so they go to hell okay

00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:17.519
 and so they go to hell that they face god's judgment what are they doing there in judgment

00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.299
 that they are first of all

00:36:20.299 --> 00:36:23.679
 receiving god's wrath

00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:26.799
 okay this is just the teaching of hell

00:36:26.799 --> 00:36:30.000
 and they're also

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.799
 in doing so in facing god's wrath in spending eternity in hell

00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.620
 they are paying something they are paying for their sins

00:36:39.620 --> 00:36:43.640
 they are paying their own treasure chest

00:36:43.640 --> 00:36:53.660
 right and so have a look if that is the case so christ paid for them on the cross

00:36:53.660 --> 00:36:59.220
 but then they step out of that don't accept the payment and then they have to pay it

00:36:59.219 --> 00:37:03.679
 in hell how many payments will be made for their sins

00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:07.579
 there's two how many treasure chests are there there's two

00:37:07.579 --> 00:37:11.759
 his life christ's life and their life

00:37:11.759 --> 00:37:18.759
 and that wouldn't be just if christ has satisfied god's justice

00:37:18.759 --> 00:37:21.359
 but then they go to hell and have to pay again

00:37:21.359 --> 00:37:25.119
 then christ hasn't satisfied god's justice on the cross

00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.719
 because it's paid twice

00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:35.059
 and so that would simply be unjust and couldn't square with god's character

00:37:35.059 --> 00:37:38.699
 but that isn't what happened

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:41.719
 no something remarkable happened on the cross

00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:42.960
 a treasure chest

00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.779
 was handed over

00:37:44.779 --> 00:37:47.639
 and every sin of his people

00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:49.619
 was actually paid for

00:37:49.619 --> 00:37:53.039
 so the cross doesn't potentially save

00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.699
 it actually does all those attached to his belt

00:37:55.699 --> 00:37:58.139
 and that is why with his last breath

00:37:58.139 --> 00:37:59.460
 what does jesus cry

00:37:59.460 --> 00:38:02.099
 it is finished

00:38:02.099 --> 00:38:04.579
 the debt is over

00:38:04.579 --> 00:38:07.599
 guilt ended no more payment no more punishment

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 and so it is impossible for christ to die for someone

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 and then for them to have to pay for their sins again

00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:20.460
 it completely undermines the justice and the satisfaction

00:38:20.460 --> 00:38:22.720
 and all that christ was doing on the cross

00:38:22.720 --> 00:38:26.380
 we must say christ died for his people

00:38:26.380 --> 00:38:31.740
 and this isn't just kind of a niche theological debate

00:38:31.740 --> 00:38:33.820
 and i was trying to kind of like with the argument

00:38:33.820 --> 00:38:34.119
 no

00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.559
 this is a huge confidence and comfort for us

00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.720
 this means we can look at the cross

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 and we can say christ actually died for me

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.320
 he went to the cross

00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.099
 with me written on his heart

00:38:50.099 --> 00:38:53.200
 and something actually happened with my sin on that day

00:38:53.200 --> 00:38:55.079
 christ redeemed me

00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.619
 he went to the cross for me

00:38:57.619 --> 00:38:58.619
 i was written on his heart

00:38:58.619 --> 00:39:00.380
 and he was carrying me on his belt

00:39:00.380 --> 00:39:04.740
 and so my redemption is certain

00:39:04.740 --> 00:39:07.800
 because he went to die for me

00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.300
 and i want us to see

00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:12.120
 this is definite atonement

00:39:12.120 --> 00:39:12.560
 okay

00:39:12.560 --> 00:39:15.200
 this is it's biblical

00:39:15.200 --> 00:39:17.960
 and this is what is happening on the cross

00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.120
 okay

00:39:20.120 --> 00:39:22.300
 but what about the whatabouts

00:39:22.300 --> 00:39:23.700
 let's get on to that

00:39:23.700 --> 00:39:24.519
 let's just finish with that

00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.539
 i can't get on to every kind of single puzzling text

00:39:28.539 --> 00:39:30.840
 but i'll kind of give you a way to think about them

00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.000
 and i'll do some examples

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.380
 so anything that includes all or every old world

00:39:35.380 --> 00:39:36.519
 i can't touch on everything

00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:41.239
 but i hope even before we get on to the the puzzling text

00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:43.239
 i hope what we can see already

00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.559
 should already kind of clarify what it can't mean

00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:47.820
 right so if we come across and

00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:49.599
 christ died for all

00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:50.360
 or um

00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.099
 god so loved the world

00:39:52.099 --> 00:39:54.360
 we've got to be careful already

00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:56.179
 because we know how we kind of

00:39:56.179 --> 00:39:57.239
 we need to think

00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.599
 so we've got to realize what it can't mean

00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.639
 okay but let's see what they do mean

00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:02.840
 what about the all verses

00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:04.780
 so what about 1 timothy 2

00:40:04.780 --> 00:40:07.460
 who christ gave himself as a ransom for all

00:40:07.460 --> 00:40:10.600
 one act of righteousness leads to justification in life

00:40:10.600 --> 00:40:11.740
 for all men

00:40:11.740 --> 00:40:13.680
 he who did not spare his own son

00:40:13.680 --> 00:40:15.040
 but gave him up for us all

00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:17.240
 how will he not also along with him

00:40:17.240 --> 00:40:18.600
 graciously give us all things

00:40:18.600 --> 00:40:21.000
 well the first thing to say is

00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.080
 just because you see the word all

00:40:23.080 --> 00:40:26.420
 it doesn't necessarily mean

00:40:26.420 --> 00:40:27.580
 and automatically mean

00:40:27.580 --> 00:40:28.680
 all people

00:40:28.680 --> 00:40:29.240
 right

00:40:29.240 --> 00:40:30.920
 every single person ever

00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:32.600
 it doesn't necessarily mean that

00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.779
 and it just have a look at romans 8 32

00:40:34.779 --> 00:40:35.299
 okay

00:40:35.299 --> 00:40:36.759
 so do you see

00:40:36.759 --> 00:40:38.199
 how will he not also

00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:38.739
 so it says

00:40:38.739 --> 00:40:40.159
 gave him up for us all

00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:40.539
 okay

00:40:40.539 --> 00:40:41.219
 question mark

00:40:41.219 --> 00:40:41.880
 what does all mean

00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:43.420
 how will he not also

00:40:43.420 --> 00:40:44.299
 along with him

00:40:44.299 --> 00:40:45.159
 graciously give us

00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:46.639
 all things

00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.500
 now when he says all things

00:40:49.500 --> 00:40:51.719
 clearly he doesn't mean

00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.679
 literally all things

00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:55.139
 christ doesn't give us

00:40:55.139 --> 00:40:56.900
 every ferrari in the world

00:40:56.900 --> 00:40:57.779
 at every second

00:40:57.779 --> 00:40:58.739
 all the time does he

00:40:58.739 --> 00:41:01.019
 and he doesn't give us lightsabers

00:41:01.019 --> 00:41:02.920
 he doesn't give us infinite money

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:03.759
 right

00:41:03.759 --> 00:41:05.079
 so it can't

00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:06.500
 already we've got to think

00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:07.480
 it can't mean

00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:08.300
 all

00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:08.860
 all

00:41:08.860 --> 00:41:09.559
 right

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 so we need to be careful with all

00:41:11.659 --> 00:41:13.019
 he means

00:41:13.019 --> 00:41:14.699
 all types of things

00:41:14.699 --> 00:41:15.259
 that we need

00:41:15.259 --> 00:41:18.099
 and so for one timothy

00:41:18.099 --> 00:41:19.079
 let's have a look at one timothy

00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:20.360
 he's saying

00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:21.579
 christ gave himself

00:41:21.579 --> 00:41:24.000
 for all types of people

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:25.460
 so jew

00:41:25.460 --> 00:41:26.159
 gentile

00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:26.679
 rich

00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:27.280
 poor

00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:27.639
 male

00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:28.119
 female

00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.880
 in fact that this is his point

00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:32.339
 in one in one timothy two

00:41:32.339 --> 00:41:34.299
 he's saying pray for kings

00:41:34.299 --> 00:41:35.719
 pray for the people in high

00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:36.179
 authority

00:41:36.179 --> 00:41:37.880
 because christ's salvation

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 is for all

00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:40.779
 types of people

00:41:40.779 --> 00:41:42.139
 like don't neglect

00:41:42.139 --> 00:41:43.179
 even the kings

00:41:43.179 --> 00:41:43.880
 okay

00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.059
 uh

00:41:45.059 --> 00:41:45.940
 no it's for

00:41:45.940 --> 00:41:46.519
 uh

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 it's not for each and

00:41:48.699 --> 00:41:50.259
 every all person

00:41:50.259 --> 00:41:51.759
 it's for all types of people

00:41:51.759 --> 00:41:53.259
 and that's the same with world

00:41:53.259 --> 00:41:53.719
 okay

00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:55.059
 so what about world verses

00:41:55.059 --> 00:41:56.619
 so look at one john two

00:41:56.619 --> 00:41:57.719
 he is the propitiation

00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:58.840
 for our sins

00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.579
 and not for ours only

00:42:00.579 --> 00:42:02.039
 but also for the sins

00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:02.639
 of the whole world

00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.059
 i think this may be the one

00:42:04.059 --> 00:42:05.519
 that catches us most off guard

00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.420
 so john

00:42:07.420 --> 00:42:09.179
 let's think about the context

00:42:09.179 --> 00:42:10.019
 john is writing

00:42:10.019 --> 00:42:11.460
 as an apostle

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 and he's saying

00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:14.500
 propitiation

00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:15.500
 salvation

00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:17.099
 is not just for

00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:18.219
 us apostles

00:42:18.219 --> 00:42:21.539
 and not just for us jews

00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:23.659
 and not just for a special

00:42:23.659 --> 00:42:24.860
 sect of people

00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:26.380
 which is the problem

00:42:26.380 --> 00:42:27.300
 going on in one john

00:42:27.300 --> 00:42:28.279
 if you if you remember

00:42:28.279 --> 00:42:28.960
 in home groups

00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.000
 it's kind of a special

00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:30.719
 sect of people saying

00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:31.980
 this is true christianity

00:42:31.980 --> 00:42:33.420
 no he's not just saying

00:42:33.420 --> 00:42:34.699
 and not just apostles

00:42:34.699 --> 00:42:35.440
 not just jews

00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:36.559
 not just a special sect

00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:36.960
 of people

00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.400
 no christ's propitiation

00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.820
 is for all types of people

00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:41.539
 across the world

00:42:41.539 --> 00:42:43.199
 all types of people

00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:43.599
 everywhere

00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:44.460
 that's the same with

00:42:44.460 --> 00:42:45.219
 john 3 16

00:42:45.219 --> 00:42:46.119
 for god so loved

00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:47.480
 the world

00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:49.539
 god didn't set his love

00:42:49.539 --> 00:42:51.360
 on jupiter or pluto

00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:52.500
 or mars

00:42:52.500 --> 00:42:55.000
 no he set his love

00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:55.699
 on this world

00:42:55.699 --> 00:42:57.320
 this sinful world

00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:58.679
 and that includes

00:42:58.679 --> 00:42:59.860
 all types of people

00:42:59.860 --> 00:43:01.139
 whoever do you see

00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:02.519
 whoever believes

00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:04.420
 will have eternal life

00:43:04.420 --> 00:43:06.480
 uh

00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.119
 and so if you ever come

00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:08.940
 across all

00:43:08.940 --> 00:43:09.779
 or world

00:43:09.779 --> 00:43:10.659
 just think

00:43:10.659 --> 00:43:12.559
 not every single person

00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.420
 it's all types of people

00:43:14.420 --> 00:43:16.300
 uh

00:43:16.300 --> 00:43:18.340
 the people hanging on

00:43:18.340 --> 00:43:18.920
 christ belt

00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:19.800
 are

00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:20.380
 you can think

00:43:20.380 --> 00:43:21.300
 they are all types

00:43:21.300 --> 00:43:22.019
 of people aren't they

00:43:22.019 --> 00:43:22.579
 all sorts

00:43:22.579 --> 00:43:23.440
 we are all types

00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:24.039
 of people here

00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:25.400
 okay

00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:27.039
 but what about

00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:28.740
 preaching and evangelism

00:43:28.740 --> 00:43:30.740
 so a common objection

00:43:30.740 --> 00:43:31.500
 is to say

00:43:31.500 --> 00:43:32.700
 well if christ

00:43:32.700 --> 00:43:33.940
 didn't die

00:43:33.940 --> 00:43:34.639
 for all people

00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.280
 how can we offer

00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:36.960
 the gospel

00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:37.740
 to all people

00:43:37.740 --> 00:43:39.780
 well the first thing

00:43:39.780 --> 00:43:40.400
 to say is

00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:43.240
 it's just not our place

00:43:43.240 --> 00:43:44.260
 to know who the father

00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:44.740
 has chosen

00:43:44.740 --> 00:43:45.019
 okay

00:43:45.019 --> 00:43:46.519
 what we're saying here

00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:47.639
 isn't that we know

00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:48.759
 who these people are

00:43:48.759 --> 00:43:49.379
 and that we

00:43:49.379 --> 00:43:50.739
 therefore we don't need

00:43:50.739 --> 00:43:51.559
 to worry

00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:52.259
 or care

00:43:52.259 --> 00:43:52.440
 no

00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.219
 we are just called

00:43:54.219 --> 00:43:55.299
 to preach the gospel

00:43:55.299 --> 00:43:57.359
 we know god has a people

00:43:57.359 --> 00:43:58.359
 and we are

00:43:58.359 --> 00:43:59.379
 our duty is just

00:43:59.379 --> 00:44:00.339
 to preach the gospel

00:44:00.339 --> 00:44:02.819
 but actually

00:44:02.819 --> 00:44:04.420
 definite atonement

00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:06.059
 so believing that christ

00:44:06.059 --> 00:44:06.960
 died for his people

00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:08.659
 this actually gives us

00:44:08.659 --> 00:44:10.400
 even more confidence

00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:11.279
 to share the gospel

00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.320
 because definite

00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:14.180
 atonement says

00:44:14.180 --> 00:44:16.460
 we can present

00:44:16.460 --> 00:44:17.280
 a message that says

00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:18.400
 it is really

00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:19.480
 with christ

00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:20.540
 that's not looking

00:44:20.540 --> 00:44:21.460
 this is the wrong way

00:44:21.460 --> 00:44:21.800
 to think

00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.040
 it is really

00:44:23.040 --> 00:44:24.019
 with christ

00:44:24.019 --> 00:44:25.000
 on the cross

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:26.980
 that is

00:44:26.980 --> 00:44:28.720
 that is where

00:44:28.720 --> 00:44:29.400
 you will find

00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:29.880
 atonement

00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:31.740
 there is no

00:44:31.740 --> 00:44:32.220
 evil

00:44:32.220 --> 00:44:32.900
 too great

00:44:32.900 --> 00:44:33.560
 no sin

00:44:33.560 --> 00:44:34.380
 too bad

00:44:34.380 --> 00:44:35.720
 that that treasure

00:44:35.720 --> 00:44:36.400
 chest cannot

00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:37.660
 perfectly pay for

00:44:37.660 --> 00:44:39.280
 because whoever

00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:39.960
 believes in him

00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:41.340
 you can really say

00:44:41.340 --> 00:44:43.099
 christ died for me

00:44:43.099 --> 00:44:44.619
 not generally

00:44:44.619 --> 00:44:46.179
 but for my specific sins

00:44:46.179 --> 00:44:47.420
 he was on the cross

00:44:47.420 --> 00:44:47.880
 for me

00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.220
 and so definite

00:44:50.220 --> 00:44:50.619
 atonement

00:44:50.619 --> 00:44:51.740
 it actually empowers

00:44:51.740 --> 00:44:52.480
 evangelism

00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.019
 it gives

00:44:54.019 --> 00:44:55.320
 confidence

00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:56.420
 it gives us

00:44:56.420 --> 00:44:56.840
 confidence

00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:57.639
 that the cross

00:44:57.639 --> 00:44:59.179
 actually does save

00:44:59.179 --> 00:44:59.720
 it's not just

00:44:59.720 --> 00:45:00.579
 hypothetically

00:45:00.579 --> 00:45:01.780
 maybe it saves

00:45:01.780 --> 00:45:02.420
 some people

00:45:02.420 --> 00:45:03.099
 no

00:45:03.099 --> 00:45:04.019
 when people believe

00:45:04.019 --> 00:45:04.400
 the gospel

00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:05.119
 their sins

00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:06.380
 really are atoned for

00:45:06.380 --> 00:45:08.079
 and so you can

00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:08.519
 kind of think of it

00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:08.860
 this way

00:45:08.860 --> 00:45:10.300
 it's like saying

00:45:10.300 --> 00:45:11.500
 trust in jesus

00:45:11.500 --> 00:45:13.579
 and you will find

00:45:13.579 --> 00:45:14.340
 you were on his

00:45:14.340 --> 00:45:15.420
 belt the whole time

00:45:15.420 --> 00:45:17.300
 we don't know

00:45:17.300 --> 00:45:17.880
 who's on there

00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:18.860
 but when you trust

00:45:18.860 --> 00:45:19.099
 in him

00:45:19.099 --> 00:45:19.599
 you realize

00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:20.039
 you were there

00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:20.700
 the whole time

00:45:20.700 --> 00:45:23.160
 and this is why

00:45:23.160 --> 00:45:24.099
 this isn't just

00:45:24.099 --> 00:45:25.079
 a random debate

00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:25.599
 this isn't

00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.099
 this isn't just

00:45:27.099 --> 00:45:28.019
 kind of a niche

00:45:28.019 --> 00:45:28.960
 thing to think about

00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:29.240
 no

00:45:29.240 --> 00:45:30.380
 this actually gets

00:45:30.380 --> 00:45:30.920
 to the heart

00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:31.640
 of the atonement

00:45:31.640 --> 00:45:33.519
 definite atonement

00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.099
 it gives real meaning

00:45:35.099 --> 00:45:36.099
 to the heart

00:45:36.099 --> 00:45:36.500
 of the gospel

00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:36.880
 message

00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:37.360
 that's been

00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:37.900
 passed down

00:45:37.900 --> 00:45:38.380
 to us

00:45:38.380 --> 00:45:39.159
 but what is

00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:39.440
 the heart

00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:39.900
 of the gospel

00:45:39.900 --> 00:45:41.480
 christ died

00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:42.480
 for our sins

00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:43.839
 according to

00:45:43.839 --> 00:45:44.539
 the scriptures

00:45:44.539 --> 00:45:46.440
 that's what we're

00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:46.619
 seeing

00:45:46.619 --> 00:45:47.440
 it's definite

00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:47.900
 atonement

00:45:47.900 --> 00:45:50.900
 let's

00:45:50.900 --> 00:45:52.739
 do one

00:45:52.739 --> 00:45:53.059
 or two

00:45:53.059 --> 00:45:53.679
 questions

00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:54.799
 you

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