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 Now, friends, it's a great delight to be here in these four weeks as we talk about kind of the theology of worship.

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 I figure that we know the elements of a church service.

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 We know that we're going to sing, we know that we're going to pray or listen to the scriptures read and taught.

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 But I find, at least at home, that there isn't great depth in understanding why we do what we do.

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 So, adding to that, the kind of contemporary issue that people think regular church attendance is twice a month.

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 Now, it might be a little different here, I'm not sure, though some of the pastors at Trinity think that probably that's becoming more and more of an expectation or a standard in the US as well.

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 But certainly at home, if a person turns up twice a month, they see themselves as being very committed to this church.

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 Now, when I first became a Christian when I was 13, it wasn't just you went to church twice a month, you went to church twice a Sunday.

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 You were expected to come to church to the morning worship and the evening.

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 We used to call it a gospel service, kind of a youth service.

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 And notice then, just in the course of my own life, how our expectations have changed.

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 So, it's a good question to ask, not just what do we do in a church service, but why do we do it and how do we think we should benefit from doing it regularly.

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 So, that's kind of driving my interest in this four-part series.

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 Now, I love you guys asking questions along the way.

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 There are no dumb questions, there are just dumb answers.

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 So, please don't feel self-conscious about putting up your hand, rugby tackling me from the microphone or something like that.

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 But, I love your interaction.

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 So, please feel free to do that, okay?

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 I know that on Sunday morning, it's probably easier to err on the passive side and kind of listen.

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 And if that's your thing, that's fine.

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 But, please don't feel afraid to ask a question if you have a question that's...

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 Just a comment.

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 Or a comment even, of course.

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 Yeah, yeah, do it all you want.

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 No, the more the merrier.

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 My comment is that we're called to worship, the why is that we're called to worship because we were built to worship.

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 And because God tells us to worship Him.

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 Sure, sure.

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 Does He tell us to worship Him every week?

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 He gives us a Sabbath that He made it holy.

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 Sure.

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 Yeah.

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 Sure.

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 Well, then that still begs other questions, doesn't it?

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 Whether the Old Testament Sabbath is for Christians today and what it means that we have an eternal Sabbath that we're waiting for.

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 So, these are the kinds of questions that I want to raise.

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 And to do it in a friendly way, I'm trying to give us each week a big metaphor.

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 A big idea that will somehow build our conversation, but perhaps as well help our memory.

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 And this week, the metaphor that I'm appealing to is that worship is a compass.

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 With my students, at least, having some of these picture words is very, very helpful because it's not just that I want to teach them, but I want them to teach others as well.

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 And so, the more tools they have in their kit, pictures or kind of ideas that are readily transferable, that helps me and helps them too, I hope.

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 Now, I want to start with a definition, though it's pretty loose.

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 I want to say that worship is simply a God-centered life.

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 We could unpack it more.

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 For example, we could say that it's about both adoration and actions.

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 We could unpack it further and say that it's response to God's revelation.

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 I think all those are helpfully true.

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 But it's the first phrase, worship is a God-centered life, that I really want to hold on to in particular.

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 Because there are big debates about this.

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 Is worship something you do every day of the week?

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 Or is worship something you do on Sundays?

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 Or is worship just that part of the service that's singing?

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 So there are very broad definitions of worship and very narrow definitions of worship.

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 And this is a hot debate in many circles.

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 How do you define worship?

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 Is worship more about the actions of your week?

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 Or is worship more the attitudes and responses on Sunday?

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 And according to your kind of tight or broad definitions, this sometimes becomes quite heated.

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 So we had Don Carson come to Ridley where I teach to do a preaching school.

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 He's known for that, right?

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 And we arrived in chapel and one of my students stands up to begin the chapel service and says,

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 Welcome this morning to worship.

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 And at morning tea, not because of Don Carson's kind of influence,

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 but at morning tea after the chapel service, there was this hot debate.

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 Some people say you cannot stand up and say welcome to worship.

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 You're worshiping every day of the week, right?

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 You can say welcome to chapel or welcome to church, but not welcome to worship.

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 But if you're on the more Pentecostal end of the Christian spectrum,

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 you'll define worship even more narrowly to deal with a very particular kind of song

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 in a very particular place in the church service.

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 So when I first became a Christian, we had a hymn book in church, right?

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 There aren't many hymn books around anymore.

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 But in those days, in a hymn book, you'd have the section called Praise,

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 and the section called Worship, and the section called Daily Christian Living,

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 and the section called The Lord's Supper, and the section called Christ's Coming,

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 or the section called Christ's Passion.

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 In those days, worship was just a tiny bit of your singing.

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 But it's as if these days, worship is just that part of the hymn book

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 that's the first 30 songs.

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 So there are big debates about how broad or how narrow we should think of worship.

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 I actually think the Bible uses the worship language in both ways.

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 So when you look at Romans 12, 1-2, you'll be reminded that worship is for every day, right?

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 Let me read it to us.

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 I appeal to you, therefore, brothers and sisters, by the mercies of God,

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 to present your bodies as a living sacrifice,

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 holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

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 Don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your minds

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 so that you might discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

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 So at least for Paul in Romans 12, worship is just giving your body to God.

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 And I presume you do that on Sundays and Mondays, right?

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 That's the broad definition.

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 Everything you do in your body can be a kind of worship.

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 But when you get to Revelation chapters 4 and 5,

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 the word worship is applied to singing.

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 Either in Revelation 4, singing about the Creator,

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 or in Revelation 5, singing about the Redeemer.

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 In both instances, the songs of worship are offered before the throne.

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 You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honour and power,

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 for you created all things, and by your will they existed and they were created.

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 So I take it that the Bible can use the word worship narrowly,

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 or can use the word worship broadly.

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 And I'm happy with both usages of the word.

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 However, in these four Sunday school sessions,

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 we're going to be using kind of the more narrow definition,

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 what we do in church.

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 Please don't hear me saying that I don't think your Monday to Friday work is worship.

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 What you do in your body is worship.

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 But for these weeks at least, for our purposes,

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 we're narrowing a little our focus.

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 So I'm going to take a pause for a moment

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 and ask if you've got any comments or questions

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 about our learning so far.

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 Please, Lydia.

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 You mentioned worship singing to the Creator and the Redeemer.

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 And I know not very many, but many songs also make a point

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 to praise the Spirit.

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 I wondered if you had a comment for or against that or anything.

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 Yes.

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 So I think there's no biblical reason why you ought not to worship

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 or name the Spirit in your worship.

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 It's just that the Spirit is the shy one

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 who keeps pushing the glory to the Father and the Son.

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 So I'm not...

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 I don't think it's wrong.

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 And you could ask the same question about your praying.

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 Should we pray to the Spirit?

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 I think there's nothing wrong with that.

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 The Spirit is the Lord, according to 2 Corinthians 4.

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 But it seems to me that part of the way God works

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 is that the Spirit helps me in my prayers

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 to the Father through the Son.

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 So I think it's probably more appropriate

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 that we pray to the Father in the end.

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 In the Scriptures.

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 In the Scriptures.

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 Yeah.

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 Yeah, that's right.

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 He leads us to the Scriptures.

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 The Spirit leads us to the Scriptures as well, yes, of course.

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 And then illuminates them for us in our heart and mind.

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 Well, this is my basic idea this morning.

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 I'm a simple man, so there's only going to be one big idea each week.

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 The big idea is that when we come to church,

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 when we come to worship,

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 our main goal is to practice being the creature

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 and letting God be the creator.

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 That whatever else we do,

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 however long the sermon goes,

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 however long the singing goes,

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 however long the praying goes,

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 we've only got one job to do,

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 and that's to practice being a creature.

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 Now, this might sound kind of patently obvious,

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 that you can never escape being the creature,

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 but let me tell you,

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 I think that's basically the human problem, right?

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 That we pretend from time to time

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 that we actually have the rights of the creator

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 to create our own world in our own image.

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 We're created in God's image, of course,

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 but on the seventh day,

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 God rests, having made men and women,

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 so that he might just enjoy the creation

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 with men and women at its climax.

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 In a sense, the point of Genesis chapter 1

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 is to show us how God loves for us

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 to enjoy fellowship with him.

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 He's the creator,

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 and we've just recently been created, right?

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 It seems to me the right attitude to have to God

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 is to see ourselves as creature

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 and not as a creator.

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 And in Romans 1,

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 the inverse is explained,

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 that basically sin is worshipping the creature

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 rather than the creator,

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 who is forever to be praised.

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 So it seems like to me,

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 and Romans 1 is important because,

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 let me read it then,

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 it contains the worship language.

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 Romans 1.24,

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 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts

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 to impurity,

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 to the degrading of their bodies amongst themselves,

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 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie

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 and worshipped and served the creature

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 rather than the creator.

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 So the fundamental description of sin,

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 in this part of Romans at least,

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 is that we try and act like the creator

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 and worship incorrectly.

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 What is worshipping correctly?

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 It's practising being the creature

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 and not the creator,

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 letting God be in his place

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 and we in ours.

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 So what are we going to do this morning

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 when we go upstairs to worship?

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 Well, the only thing you have to do

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 is realise that you're practising

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 in any element in the service,

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 no matter what part of it we're up to,

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 you're practising being the creature.

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 You've just got to let go.

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 You've got to let God be God

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 and pray to him and sing to him

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 and learn from him.

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 I don't want to argue

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 that church is an instrument

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 to achieve or do something else.

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 Church is a way of doing evangelism.

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 Well, it might be on the side.

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 Church is a way of growing in our minds.

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 Well, yes, of course it is.

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 But actually the most basic reason

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 why we worship

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 is to practise being creatures

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 and dependent.

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 My second point is related to that

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 and then I'll break again

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 and you can ask some questions.

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 Is that church reflects the relationship

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 between the one who calls

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 and the ones who are called.

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 So God calls us.

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 That means we are the called ones

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 and we turn up in response to his voice,

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 in response to his initiative.

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 And if you read the first chapter

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 of 1 Corinthians,

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 you'll see how often the language of call

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 is used there to describe God

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 or to describe us.

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 It's an important point.

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 Lots of people will assume

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 that we turn up to church

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 and then through our intense emotions

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 or through our beautiful voices

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 or through a structure of the service,

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 God sees fit to come and join us.

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 He's a bit resistant, right?

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 Because it's Sunday morning after all.

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 He was having a nice snooze

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 but our loud praises somehow

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 kind of wake him

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 or our loud praises give him a throne

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 to sit on.

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 Now actually,

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 the basic relationship in church

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 is that God is here before we turn up.

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 God calls us.

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 You and I, brothers and sisters this morning,

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 have heard his voice

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 and we respond to his voice

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 and arrive.

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 He is the one who calls

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 and we are the ones

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 who respond.

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 It's kind of the same point

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 about creator and creature

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 with slightly different language.

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 He's the creator.

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 We're the creatures.

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 We learn dependence.

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 He's the one who calls.

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 We are the called ones.

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 So we listen to his voice

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 and trust his words.

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 He is the creator

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 and knows best after all.

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 Now this is also

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 pretty controversial

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 in lots of circles

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 because assumption

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 in lots of places is

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 that God will respond

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 and come to be with us

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 if our words,

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 our emotions

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 or our services

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 have particular characteristics.

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 It drives me crazy

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 when people start the church service

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 and say, you know,

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 please Lord,

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 be in our midst this morning.

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 Please Lord,

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 may you take your place

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 on our praises.

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 It just drives me crazy.

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 He was there in the first place.

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 He's the one who called us.

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 We're only here

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 because he was here first.

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 That's the whole point

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 of being a Christian, right?

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 God's voice

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 comes before our response

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 to his voice.

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 So it's good

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 and it's lovely

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 that here at Trinity

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 we do this,

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 that we begin the service

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 calling on

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 or recognising

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 the name

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 of Jesus Christ.

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 For he's the one

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 who draws us together

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 as his body.

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 It's not like we turn up

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 and then God

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 scratches his head

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 and realises

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 that he should have done

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 something this morning

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 as well.

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 It was his initiative.

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 It's his power.

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 It's his voice.

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 It's his love

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 which draws us together

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 in the first place.

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 Now, next week

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 I'll unpack this

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 a little bit more

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 because it makes

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 a big difference

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 to the elements

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 of a church service

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 and how we might

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 approach

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 or how we think

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 about praying

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 or how we think

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 about singing

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 or how we think

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 about Bible reading.

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 But both

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 these points

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 from Romans

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 and from Corinthians

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 are trying to suggest

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 that

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 the purpose

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 of Sunday

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 meeting

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 is that we

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 practice

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 a God

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 centred

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 life.

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 And if we can

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 practice it for an hour

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 on Sundays

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 then perhaps

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 some of

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 the muscle memory

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 that we've

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 practiced on Sundays

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 will carry over

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 into Mondays

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 and Tuesdays

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 and Wednesdays

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 as well.

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 You can also say

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 that we're practicing

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 what we're going

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 to be doing

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 for eternity.

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 Yes, that's right.

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 That's right.

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 There will be singing

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 forever.

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 Correct.

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 Yep.

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 And we'll be depending

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 on God forever.

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 Yeah, indeed.

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 I'm taking a pause

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 so that you can

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 gather your thoughts

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 and ask some questions

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 or make some comments.

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 What do you think

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 like a right

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 understanding

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 of how we do

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 church together

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 with our body

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 here in Trinity

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 how does that

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 help us

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 in our mission

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 as Christians

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 on this earth?

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 Like what are

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 the practical

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 implications

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 of having this right?

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 Like as we think

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 about we come here

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 and this is what

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 we're doing

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 like what are

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 some of the benefits

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 that we experience

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 the body

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 by getting this

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 problem.

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 I think about it.

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 Yep, so

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 and I'll unpack

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 some of it

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 in the next few

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 weeks as well.

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 Primarily

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 the church

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 is a gift.

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 It's something

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 God's giving to us.

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 He's giving

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 to us each other

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 and if we

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 don't regard

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 each other

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 in church

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 as a gift

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 then what we

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 end up doing

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 is making

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 of church

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 a burden

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 or a challenge

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 and I think

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 that just

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 impacts

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 how we

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 approach it

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 how we

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 invite others

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 to come along

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 what we

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 imagine we're

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 doing here

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 what we think

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 we should be

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 achieving

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 or not

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 achieving

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 so I think

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 it has

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 a whole range

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 of spin-offs

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 the next

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 few

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 picture words

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 that I'm using

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 are the church

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 is a gym

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 church

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 is a dinner

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 party

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 and church

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 is a

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 classroom

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 and church

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 is a

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 party

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 and so

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 I want

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 to unpack

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 using those

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 metaphors

00:21:40.719 --> 00:21:41.819
 more of

00:21:41.819 --> 00:21:42.459
 the

00:21:42.459 --> 00:21:44.019
 value

00:21:44.019 --> 00:21:44.740
 what do we

00:21:44.740 --> 00:21:46.959
 lose if we

00:21:46.959 --> 00:21:47.659
 don't turn up

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 is the other

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 way of putting

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 it

00:21:48.919 --> 00:21:51.159
 so

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 lots of

00:21:52.399 --> 00:21:52.679
 people

00:21:52.679 --> 00:21:53.939
 decide not to

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 come to church

00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:54.740
 because they

00:21:54.740 --> 00:21:55.199
 could listen to

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 a podcast

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 and what

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 they say

00:21:58.080 --> 00:21:58.660
 is get more

00:21:58.660 --> 00:21:59.059
 from the

00:21:59.059 --> 00:21:59.580
 podcast

00:21:59.580 --> 00:21:59.920
 and turning

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 up a church

00:22:00.460 --> 00:22:01.559
 or they

00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:02.120
 could put

00:22:02.120 --> 00:22:02.460
 on their

00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:03.160
 Christian music

00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:04.880
 on a CD

00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:05.940
 or people

00:22:05.940 --> 00:22:06.299
 don't use

00:22:06.299 --> 00:22:06.900
 CDs anymore

00:22:06.900 --> 00:22:07.240
 do they

00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:07.600
 that just

00:22:07.600 --> 00:22:08.759
 dated me

00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:10.400
 on Spotify

00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:10.880
 whatever

00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:13.220
 and that's

00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:13.759
 it has

00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:14.539
 better production

00:22:14.539 --> 00:22:15.400
 values than

00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:16.160
 their local

00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:17.680
 congregation

00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:18.259
 and so on

00:22:18.259 --> 00:22:19.180
 but I just

00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:19.519
 think that's

00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:20.000
 so wrong

00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:20.259
 headed

00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:20.819
 because

00:22:20.819 --> 00:22:22.279
 it's assuming

00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:22.960
 that it's

00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:23.859
 about achieving

00:22:23.859 --> 00:22:24.799
 a certain

00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:25.359
 kind of

00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:25.980
 standard

00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:27.019
 rather than

00:22:27.019 --> 00:22:27.639
 receiving

00:22:27.639 --> 00:22:28.480
 a generous

00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:29.119
 gift

00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.759
 and

00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:32.839
 that we're

00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:33.500
 doing it

00:22:33.500 --> 00:22:35.460
 together

00:22:35.460 --> 00:22:37.079
 with others

00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:37.659
 not by

00:22:37.659 --> 00:22:38.159
 ourselves

00:22:38.159 --> 00:22:38.759
 with our

00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:40.799
 earpiece

00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.079
 the temptation

00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:43.659
 with podcasts

00:22:43.659 --> 00:22:44.119
 for example

00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:44.599
 is that you

00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:45.439
 put in your

00:22:45.439 --> 00:22:46.079
 earpiece

00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:46.379
 or put on

00:22:46.379 --> 00:22:46.819
 your headphones

00:22:46.819 --> 00:22:47.859
 and it

00:22:47.859 --> 00:22:48.539
 sounds like

00:22:48.539 --> 00:22:49.639
 that celebrity

00:22:49.639 --> 00:22:50.139
 preacher

00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:51.540
 is whispering

00:22:51.540 --> 00:22:51.920
 to you

00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:52.100
 right

00:22:52.100 --> 00:22:52.700
 you and

00:22:52.700 --> 00:22:53.500
 he have

00:22:53.500 --> 00:22:54.000
 this kind

00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:54.420
 of really

00:22:54.420 --> 00:22:54.880
 close

00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:55.640
 relationship

00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:56.580
 he's just

00:22:56.580 --> 00:22:57.060
 talking to

00:22:57.060 --> 00:22:57.180
 you

00:22:57.180 --> 00:22:57.480
 and so

00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:58.200
 you kind

00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:58.500
 of feel

00:22:58.500 --> 00:22:59.020
 special

00:22:59.020 --> 00:23:00.900
 the problem

00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:01.440
 is of course

00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:02.080
 he's not

00:23:02.080 --> 00:23:02.840
 and secondly

00:23:02.840 --> 00:23:03.340
 you haven't

00:23:03.340 --> 00:23:03.780
 understood

00:23:03.780 --> 00:23:05.220
 his applications

00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:06.360
 because you

00:23:06.360 --> 00:23:07.400
 receive it as

00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:08.080
 application for

00:23:08.080 --> 00:23:08.520
 an individual

00:23:08.520 --> 00:23:08.980
 rather than

00:23:08.980 --> 00:23:09.600
 application for

00:23:09.600 --> 00:23:10.020
 congregation

00:23:10.020 --> 00:23:11.340
 so it's

00:23:11.340 --> 00:23:12.380
 you kind

00:23:12.380 --> 00:23:12.900
 of end up

00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:14.280
 missing all

00:23:14.280 --> 00:23:14.900
 the gifts

00:23:14.900 --> 00:23:16.020
 that God

00:23:16.020 --> 00:23:16.460
 wants to

00:23:16.460 --> 00:23:16.840
 give

00:23:16.840 --> 00:23:17.480
 yeah

00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:18.360
 and with TV

00:23:18.360 --> 00:23:19.600
 evangelism

00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:20.219
 and with

00:23:20.219 --> 00:23:20.819
 podcasts

00:23:20.819 --> 00:23:21.279
 I believe

00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:21.879
 that God

00:23:21.879 --> 00:23:22.459
 turns out

00:23:22.459 --> 00:23:23.000
 being the

00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:23.719
 second banana

00:23:23.719 --> 00:23:25.339
 and the

00:23:25.339 --> 00:23:26.139
 pastor

00:23:26.139 --> 00:23:26.839
 the speaker

00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:28.059
 ends up

00:23:28.059 --> 00:23:28.719
 being the

00:23:28.719 --> 00:23:29.379
 first banana

00:23:29.379 --> 00:23:30.339
 and takes

00:23:30.339 --> 00:23:30.759
 away from

00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:31.099
 God

00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:31.419
 yeah

00:23:31.419 --> 00:23:31.899
 yeah

00:23:31.899 --> 00:23:33.179
 it certainly

00:23:33.179 --> 00:23:34.000
 does take

00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:34.259
 away from

00:23:34.259 --> 00:23:34.500
 God

00:23:34.500 --> 00:23:34.839
 and

00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:35.919
 the hair

00:23:35.919 --> 00:23:36.480
 or the

00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:37.279
 charisma

00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:37.740
 of the

00:23:37.740 --> 00:23:38.179
 pastor

00:23:38.179 --> 00:23:39.399
 you know

00:23:39.399 --> 00:23:39.980
 I often

00:23:39.980 --> 00:23:40.359
 think about

00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:41.740
 celebrity

00:23:41.740 --> 00:23:42.219
 pastors

00:23:42.219 --> 00:23:42.579
 hair

00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:42.899
 that's

00:23:42.899 --> 00:23:43.199
 right

00:23:43.199 --> 00:23:45.519
 Mesopotamia

00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:46.460
 Mesopotamia

00:23:46.460 --> 00:23:49.920
 yeah that's

00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:50.119
 right

00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:50.859
 it's very

00:23:50.859 --> 00:23:51.839
 easy to be

00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:53.039
 distracted by

00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:54.740
 the immediate

00:23:54.740 --> 00:23:56.420
 yeah

00:23:56.420 --> 00:23:57.160
 one of my

00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:57.960
 students said

00:23:57.960 --> 00:23:58.559
 he wasn't

00:23:58.559 --> 00:23:58.920
 reading the

00:23:58.920 --> 00:23:59.319
 Bible in the

00:23:59.319 --> 00:23:59.680
 morning for

00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:00.319
 himself anymore

00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:00.779
 he was just

00:24:00.779 --> 00:24:01.200
 listening to

00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:01.839
 podcasts

00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.180
 and I said to

00:24:04.180 --> 00:24:04.400
 him he'd

00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:05.000
 become a

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:05.279
 medieval

00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:05.700
 Christian

00:24:05.700 --> 00:24:06.339
 where he

00:24:06.339 --> 00:24:07.079
 now had a

00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:07.599
 priest who

00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:07.900
 was getting

00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:08.139
 him to

00:24:08.139 --> 00:24:08.480
 God

00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:09.500
 rather than

00:24:09.500 --> 00:24:09.879
 reading the

00:24:09.879 --> 00:24:10.319
 Bible for

00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:10.740
 himself

00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:11.079
 right

00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:13.099
 that's what

00:24:13.099 --> 00:24:13.740
 he was doing

00:24:13.740 --> 00:24:14.400
 he was effectively

00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:15.060
 not turning up

00:24:15.060 --> 00:24:15.480
 at church

00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:15.960
 because he

00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:16.440
 thought that

00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:16.820
 he could get

00:24:16.820 --> 00:24:17.120
 the good

00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:18.019
 oil from

00:24:18.019 --> 00:24:18.580
 the podcast

00:24:18.580 --> 00:24:19.500
 but he was

00:24:19.500 --> 00:24:19.920
 just missing

00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:20.560
 the gifts

00:24:20.560 --> 00:24:21.840
 that God

00:24:21.840 --> 00:24:22.240
 wants to

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:22.640
 give

00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.860
 he says in

00:24:26.860 --> 00:24:27.240
 his word

00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:27.980
 do not forsake

00:24:27.980 --> 00:24:28.440
 the assembly

00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:28.880
 of one

00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:29.240
 another

00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:30.780
 that's

00:24:30.780 --> 00:24:31.420
 right there

00:24:31.420 --> 00:24:31.640
 yeah

00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:32.019
 yeah

00:24:32.019 --> 00:24:33.580
 yes

00:24:33.580 --> 00:24:34.280
 and he'd

00:24:34.280 --> 00:24:34.540
 say he

00:24:34.540 --> 00:24:34.800
 wasn't

00:24:34.800 --> 00:24:35.160
 he was still

00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:35.560
 turning up

00:24:35.560 --> 00:24:36.080
 once or twice

00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:36.540
 a month

00:24:36.540 --> 00:24:38.700
 that is

00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:41.240
 the assumption

00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:42.220
 about weekly

00:24:42.220 --> 00:24:42.980
 attendance

00:24:42.980 --> 00:24:44.480
 has gone

00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:44.920
 missing

00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:48.799
 yes sir

00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.259
 what gifts

00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:53.099
 do we get

00:24:53.099 --> 00:24:54.380
 by coming

00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:54.940
 together

00:24:54.940 --> 00:24:57.539
 to worship

00:24:57.539 --> 00:24:58.480
 that we

00:24:58.480 --> 00:24:59.160
 don't get

00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:00.980
 you know

00:25:00.980 --> 00:25:02.019
 I'm agreeing

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:03.160
 but can you

00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:03.460
 be a little

00:25:03.460 --> 00:25:04.099
 more particular

00:25:04.099 --> 00:25:05.140
 like when we

00:25:05.140 --> 00:25:05.960
 come together

00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:07.220
 what gifts

00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:07.579
 are we

00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:08.319
 receiving

00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:08.759
 that we

00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:09.259
 don't

00:25:09.259 --> 00:25:10.480
 when a

00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:10.779
 great

00:25:10.779 --> 00:25:11.200
 worship

00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:11.599
 song

00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:15.039
 comes on

00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:15.299
 and we're

00:25:15.299 --> 00:25:15.579
 just

00:25:15.579 --> 00:25:16.599
 we turn

00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:16.839
 and we're

00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:17.419
 praising God

00:25:17.419 --> 00:25:18.099
 by ourselves

00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:18.439
 yeah

00:25:18.439 --> 00:25:19.599
 it's maturity

00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:21.619
 so I don't

00:25:21.619 --> 00:25:22.019
 think you can

00:25:22.019 --> 00:25:22.659
 be mature

00:25:22.659 --> 00:25:23.259
 alone

00:25:23.259 --> 00:25:24.899
 that is

00:25:24.899 --> 00:25:26.299
 I think

00:25:26.299 --> 00:25:26.899
 sermons

00:25:26.899 --> 00:25:28.339
 are primarily

00:25:28.339 --> 00:25:28.919
 I hope I don't

00:25:28.919 --> 00:25:29.359
 get into trouble

00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:29.740
 for this

00:25:29.740 --> 00:25:30.799
 I think sermons

00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:31.559
 are primarily

00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:32.319
 to build a

00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:33.079
 congregation

00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:35.240
 of which

00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:35.759
 you will

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:36.319
 benefit as

00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:36.879
 an individual

00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:37.980
 but I

00:25:37.980 --> 00:25:38.800
 think corporate

00:25:38.800 --> 00:25:39.500
 maturity

00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:40.760
 is the

00:25:40.760 --> 00:25:41.480
 primary

00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:42.240
 goal

00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:43.620
 of a church

00:25:43.620 --> 00:25:44.060
 service for

00:25:44.060 --> 00:25:44.380
 that matter

00:25:44.380 --> 00:25:45.380
 for worship

00:25:45.380 --> 00:25:45.860
 as we

00:25:45.860 --> 00:25:46.240
 together

00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:47.040
 learn to

00:25:47.040 --> 00:25:47.400
 be the

00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:47.780
 creatures

00:25:47.780 --> 00:25:48.300
 before the

00:25:48.300 --> 00:25:48.600
 creator

00:25:48.600 --> 00:25:50.380
 but of course

00:25:50.380 --> 00:25:51.000
 in our world

00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:51.400
 we think

00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:52.120
 individual

00:25:52.120 --> 00:25:52.800
 maturity

00:25:52.800 --> 00:25:53.780
 and therefore

00:25:53.780 --> 00:25:54.140
 we say

00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:54.780
 well I'm

00:25:54.780 --> 00:25:55.240
 individually

00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:55.740
 maturing

00:25:55.740 --> 00:25:56.140
 by listening

00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:56.400
 to my

00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:56.840
 podcast

00:25:56.840 --> 00:25:57.280
 but actually

00:25:57.280 --> 00:25:57.660
 you're not

00:25:57.660 --> 00:25:58.240
 corporately

00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:58.660
 maturing

00:25:58.660 --> 00:25:58.940
 you're not

00:25:58.940 --> 00:25:59.200
 actually

00:25:59.200 --> 00:25:59.660
 maturing

00:25:59.660 --> 00:26:00.380
 as God

00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:00.780
 wants you

00:26:00.780 --> 00:26:01.300
 to mature

00:26:01.300 --> 00:26:01.940
 which is

00:26:01.940 --> 00:26:02.600
 to learn

00:26:02.600 --> 00:26:04.020
 your place

00:26:04.020 --> 00:26:04.800
 in the

00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:05.060
 body

00:26:05.060 --> 00:26:05.340
 in the

00:26:05.340 --> 00:26:05.700
 fellowship

00:26:05.700 --> 00:26:06.080
 right

00:26:06.080 --> 00:26:07.160
 this is

00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:07.440
 the thing

00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:07.779
 when I

00:26:07.779 --> 00:26:08.480
 give these

00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:08.840
 talks

00:26:08.840 --> 00:26:09.559
 or these

00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:09.980
 seminars

00:26:09.980 --> 00:26:10.539
 that one

00:26:10.539 --> 00:26:10.700
 of the

00:26:10.700 --> 00:26:10.980
 things that

00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:11.980
 people react

00:26:11.980 --> 00:26:12.720
 most strongly

00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.240
 to is that

00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:15.180
 church is for

00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:16.240
 corporate maturity

00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:16.940
 not for your

00:26:16.940 --> 00:26:17.960
 personal maturity

00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.700
 and that gets

00:26:20.700 --> 00:26:21.660
 often lots of

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:23.559
 pushback

00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.460
 yes brother

00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:43.140
 yeah I

00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:43.360
 agree

00:26:43.360 --> 00:26:43.880
 yeah sure

00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:44.500
 so that

00:26:44.500 --> 00:26:45.940
 I do

00:26:45.940 --> 00:26:47.059
 in the end

00:26:47.059 --> 00:26:47.519
 benefit

00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:47.960
 individually

00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:48.380
 too

00:26:48.380 --> 00:26:49.319
 but I

00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:49.779
 can't say

00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:50.019
 I'm not

00:26:50.019 --> 00:26:50.180
 going to

00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:50.420
 turn up

00:26:50.420 --> 00:26:50.900
 at church

00:26:50.900 --> 00:26:51.400
 because I'm

00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:51.620
 not going

00:26:51.620 --> 00:26:51.779
 to get

00:26:51.779 --> 00:26:52.039
 anything

00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:52.299
 out of

00:26:52.299 --> 00:26:52.759
 it today

00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:53.620
 you turn

00:26:53.620 --> 00:26:53.799
 up at

00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:53.960
 church

00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:54.400
 because we're

00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:54.660
 going to get

00:26:54.660 --> 00:26:55.100
 something out

00:26:55.100 --> 00:26:55.319
 of it

00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:55.679
 today

00:26:55.679 --> 00:26:57.059
 and so

00:26:57.059 --> 00:26:58.059
 the danger

00:26:58.059 --> 00:26:59.500
 of highlighting

00:26:59.500 --> 00:27:00.220
 the individual

00:27:00.220 --> 00:27:00.759
 maturity

00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:01.539
 at the expense

00:27:01.539 --> 00:27:01.859
 of the

00:27:01.859 --> 00:27:02.159
 corporate

00:27:02.159 --> 00:27:02.700
 maturity

00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:03.619
 is that

00:27:03.619 --> 00:27:03.980
 then you

00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:04.359
 say the

00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:04.919
 podcast is

00:27:04.919 --> 00:27:05.139
 going to

00:27:05.139 --> 00:27:05.740
 do me

00:27:05.740 --> 00:27:06.359
 just fine

00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:10.500
 could you

00:27:10.500 --> 00:27:11.159
 touch on

00:27:11.159 --> 00:27:12.019
 the historical

00:27:12.019 --> 00:27:12.500
 worship

00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:13.159
 aspect

00:27:13.159 --> 00:27:14.179
 with

00:27:14.179 --> 00:27:14.699
 Israel

00:27:14.699 --> 00:27:15.419
 and the

00:27:15.419 --> 00:27:15.839
 relationship

00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:16.359
 to God

00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:17.719
 versus now

00:27:17.719 --> 00:27:18.399
 sure

00:27:18.399 --> 00:27:19.240
 so

00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:21.359
 one of

00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:21.699
 the

00:27:21.699 --> 00:27:23.299
 biggest

00:27:23.299 --> 00:27:23.959
 lessons

00:27:23.959 --> 00:27:24.939
 in

00:27:24.939 --> 00:27:25.459
 Leviticus

00:27:25.459 --> 00:27:26.419
 or in

00:27:26.419 --> 00:27:26.799
 God's

00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:27.399
 instructions

00:27:27.399 --> 00:27:28.139
 for the

00:27:28.139 --> 00:27:29.179
 temple

00:27:29.179 --> 00:27:30.279
 and the

00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:30.979
 sacrifices

00:27:30.979 --> 00:27:31.779
 is that

00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:32.219
 you have

00:27:32.219 --> 00:27:32.599
 to do

00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:33.199
 things on

00:27:33.199 --> 00:27:33.559
 God's

00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:33.759
 own

00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:34.299
 terms

00:27:34.299 --> 00:27:35.519
 he's

00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:35.740
 the one

00:27:35.740 --> 00:27:36.079
 who sets

00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:36.519
 the rules

00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:36.819
 for how

00:27:36.819 --> 00:27:37.259
 you worship

00:27:37.259 --> 00:27:37.659
 he's

00:27:37.659 --> 00:27:37.940
 the one

00:27:37.940 --> 00:27:38.139
 who's

00:27:38.139 --> 00:27:38.379
 at the

00:27:38.379 --> 00:27:38.619
 center

00:27:38.619 --> 00:27:38.879
 of the

00:27:38.879 --> 00:27:39.079
 holy

00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:39.619
 of holies

00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:41.299
 and you

00:27:41.299 --> 00:27:41.819
 can only

00:27:41.819 --> 00:27:42.259
 approach

00:27:42.259 --> 00:27:42.599
 him

00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.299
 recognizing

00:27:44.299 --> 00:27:44.819
 the way

00:27:44.819 --> 00:27:45.539
 he wants

00:27:45.539 --> 00:27:47.000
 us

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.680
 to approach

00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:49.000
 him

00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:49.740
 so I

00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:49.899
 think

00:27:49.899 --> 00:27:50.819
 this

00:27:50.819 --> 00:27:51.539
 point

00:27:51.539 --> 00:27:52.519
 I could

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:53.059
 expand

00:27:53.059 --> 00:27:53.279
 it

00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:54.379
 is

00:27:54.379 --> 00:27:54.839
 actually

00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:55.619
 deeply

00:27:55.619 --> 00:27:56.259
 embedded

00:27:56.259 --> 00:27:57.240
 in the

00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:57.460
 Old

00:27:57.460 --> 00:27:57.819
 Testament

00:27:57.819 --> 00:27:58.500
 storyline

00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:00.059
 that we

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:00.639
 worship

00:28:00.639 --> 00:28:01.819
 according to

00:28:01.819 --> 00:28:02.339
 the rules

00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:02.819
 that God

00:28:02.819 --> 00:28:03.339
 has made

00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:03.779
 for worship

00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:04.119
 we can

00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:04.279
 only

00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:04.680
 approach

00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:05.019
 him

00:28:05.019 --> 00:28:05.859
 because

00:28:05.859 --> 00:28:06.139
 he's

00:28:06.139 --> 00:28:06.440
 first

00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:06.899
 approached

00:28:06.899 --> 00:28:07.359
 us

00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:08.119
 we can

00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:08.279
 only

00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:08.599
 approach

00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:08.779
 him

00:28:08.779 --> 00:28:09.059
 on the

00:28:09.059 --> 00:28:09.399
 terms

00:28:09.399 --> 00:28:09.839
 that he's

00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:10.099
 laid

00:28:10.099 --> 00:28:10.519
 down

00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.740
 and of

00:28:12.740 --> 00:28:12.940
 course

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:13.259
 in

00:28:13.259 --> 00:28:14.079
 the

00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:15.220
 worship

00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:15.420
 of

00:28:15.420 --> 00:28:15.720
 Israel

00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:16.639
 they

00:28:16.639 --> 00:28:18.680
 held

00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:19.339
 strongly

00:28:19.339 --> 00:28:19.779
 to it

00:28:19.779 --> 00:28:20.139
 being a

00:28:20.139 --> 00:28:20.559
 corporate

00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.039
 experience

00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:24.639
 it was

00:28:24.639 --> 00:28:25.299
 after all

00:28:25.299 --> 00:28:26.799
 the whole

00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:27.559
 nation

00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:27.819
 of the

00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:28.139
 Hebrews

00:28:28.139 --> 00:28:28.740
 that God

00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:29.160
 brought out

00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:29.680
 of Egypt

00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:30.680
 through

00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:31.079
 the

00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:31.799
 Passover

00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:32.700
 sacrifice

00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:37.759
 on a

00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:38.319
 potentially

00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:39.400
 pastoral

00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:39.940
 application

00:28:39.940 --> 00:28:40.299
 level

00:28:40.299 --> 00:28:41.240
 how does

00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:41.620
 this

00:28:41.620 --> 00:28:42.660
 how would

00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:43.420
 you translate

00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:44.039
 this to

00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:44.660
 someone who

00:28:44.660 --> 00:28:45.140
 says

00:28:45.140 --> 00:28:46.440
 I'm battling

00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:47.640
 feeling just

00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:48.319
 really discouraged

00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:49.000
 and depressed

00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:49.660
 and church

00:28:49.660 --> 00:28:50.200
 just feels

00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:50.640
 overwhelming

00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:51.120
 to me

00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:52.080
 or my

00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:52.380
 boyfriend

00:28:52.380 --> 00:28:52.880
 broke up

00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:53.360
 with me

00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:53.740
 and I

00:28:53.740 --> 00:28:54.180
 just can't

00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:54.700
 get myself

00:28:54.700 --> 00:28:55.000
 out of

00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:55.240
 bed

00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:55.819
 or

00:28:55.819 --> 00:28:58.200
 my

00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:59.079
 feelings

00:28:59.079 --> 00:28:59.419
 were hurt

00:28:59.419 --> 00:28:59.899
 by someone

00:28:59.899 --> 00:29:00.240
 and I

00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:00.559
 don't want

00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:00.919
 to go

00:29:00.919 --> 00:29:01.639
 and deal

00:29:01.639 --> 00:29:02.059
 with them

00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:02.559
 how

00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.059
 might this

00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:06.939
 be a

00:29:06.939 --> 00:29:07.259
 helpful

00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:07.740
 thing

00:29:07.740 --> 00:29:08.539
 how would

00:29:08.539 --> 00:29:08.679
 you

00:29:08.679 --> 00:29:09.299
 communicate

00:29:09.299 --> 00:29:09.799
 this to

00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:10.019
 someone

00:29:10.019 --> 00:29:10.200
 who's

00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:10.319
 saying

00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:11.119
 it just

00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:11.419
 feels

00:29:11.419 --> 00:29:12.059
 really hard

00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:12.359
 to go

00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:13.019
 to corporate

00:29:13.019 --> 00:29:13.379
 worship

00:29:13.380 --> 00:29:15.600
 yes

00:29:15.600 --> 00:29:16.760
 so I

00:29:16.760 --> 00:29:17.180
 understand

00:29:17.180 --> 00:29:17.480
 that

00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.280
 there'll

00:29:19.280 --> 00:29:19.440
 be

00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:19.940
 seasons

00:29:19.940 --> 00:29:20.280
 in a

00:29:20.280 --> 00:29:20.680
 person's

00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:21.020
 life

00:29:21.020 --> 00:29:21.440
 where

00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:22.100
 corporate

00:29:22.100 --> 00:29:22.400
 worship

00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:22.840
 is very

00:29:22.840 --> 00:29:23.340
 challenging

00:29:23.340 --> 00:29:25.260
 either

00:29:25.260 --> 00:29:25.860
 they have

00:29:25.860 --> 00:29:26.500
 a kind

00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:26.740
 of a

00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:27.060
 social

00:29:27.060 --> 00:29:27.580
 phobia

00:29:27.580 --> 00:29:28.220
 that makes

00:29:28.220 --> 00:29:28.540
 being

00:29:28.540 --> 00:29:29.340
 in groups

00:29:29.340 --> 00:29:29.840
 hard

00:29:29.840 --> 00:29:30.160
 and so

00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:30.320
 on

00:29:30.320 --> 00:29:34.760
 but I'd

00:29:34.760 --> 00:29:35.280
 say this

00:29:35.280 --> 00:29:35.940
 at least

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:37.760
 at some

00:29:37.760 --> 00:29:38.260
 level

00:29:38.260 --> 00:29:39.440
 meeting

00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:39.820
 with other

00:29:39.820 --> 00:29:40.260
 Christians

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:41.440
 in those

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.000
 seasons

00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:42.819
 is really

00:29:42.819 --> 00:29:43.379
 important

00:29:43.379 --> 00:29:44.319
 even if

00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:44.720
 it's not

00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:45.279
 in Sunday

00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:45.720
 worship

00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:46.799
 for a

00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:47.119
 small

00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:47.680
 time

00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.460
 but a

00:29:49.460 --> 00:29:49.859
 small

00:29:49.859 --> 00:29:50.240
 group

00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:50.579
 in the

00:29:50.579 --> 00:29:50.940
 week

00:29:50.940 --> 00:29:51.460
 or a

00:29:51.460 --> 00:29:51.619
 prayer

00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:52.059
 triplet

00:29:52.059 --> 00:29:52.960
 as a

00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:53.700
 minimum

00:29:53.700 --> 00:29:54.980
 but the

00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:55.240
 other thing

00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:55.559
 is of course

00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:56.000
 you could

00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:56.839
 say to the

00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:57.019
 person

00:29:57.019 --> 00:29:57.420
 why don't

00:29:57.420 --> 00:29:58.279
 you come

00:29:58.279 --> 00:29:58.920
 five minutes

00:29:58.920 --> 00:29:59.400
 late

00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:00.200
 and leave

00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:00.779
 five minutes

00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:01.240
 early

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:02.299
 so that

00:30:02.299 --> 00:30:02.460
 you don't

00:30:02.460 --> 00:30:02.700
 have to

00:30:02.700 --> 00:30:03.059
 talk to

00:30:03.059 --> 00:30:03.460
 anyone

00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:04.240
 but that

00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:04.680
 you can

00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:05.759
 remind

00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:06.400
 yourself

00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.180
 with

00:30:08.180 --> 00:30:08.700
 the

00:30:08.700 --> 00:30:09.299
 practices

00:30:09.299 --> 00:30:09.879
 of the

00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:10.420
 service

00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:11.200
 what

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:12.940
 God

00:30:12.940 --> 00:30:13.160
 wants

00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:13.500
 to give

00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:13.920
 and how

00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:14.400
 you've

00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:14.660
 been

00:30:14.660 --> 00:30:15.120
 blessed

00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:15.720
 what your

00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:16.180
 responsibilities

00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:16.540
 are

00:30:16.540 --> 00:30:16.940
 despite

00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:17.400
 this

00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.560
 season

00:30:18.560 --> 00:30:18.920
 of

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:19.540
 depression

00:30:19.540 --> 00:30:20.060
 or

00:30:20.060 --> 00:30:20.680
 trial

00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:24.420
 one

00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:26.880
 lesson

00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:27.340
 that I've

00:30:27.340 --> 00:30:27.620
 learned

00:30:27.620 --> 00:30:29.100
 in my

00:30:29.100 --> 00:30:29.460
 Christian

00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:29.800
 walk

00:30:29.800 --> 00:30:30.260
 is that

00:30:30.260 --> 00:30:31.420
 you go

00:30:31.420 --> 00:30:32.040
 to church

00:30:32.040 --> 00:30:32.900
 especially

00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:33.340
 when you

00:30:33.340 --> 00:30:33.500
 don't

00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:33.820
 want to

00:30:33.820 --> 00:30:34.040
 go

00:30:34.040 --> 00:30:36.380
 I was

00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:36.740
 battling

00:30:36.740 --> 00:30:37.220
 addiction

00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:37.820
 for a

00:30:37.820 --> 00:30:38.720
 decade

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:39.020
 and a

00:30:39.020 --> 00:30:39.320
 half

00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:39.980
 and I

00:30:39.980 --> 00:30:40.359
 want to

00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:40.619
 go to

00:30:40.619 --> 00:30:40.859
 church

00:30:40.859 --> 00:30:41.220
 only

00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:41.619
 when I

00:30:41.619 --> 00:30:41.960
 had

00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:42.539
 some

00:30:42.539 --> 00:30:43.000
 clean

00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:43.500
 time

00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:44.059
 under

00:30:44.059 --> 00:30:44.279
 my

00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:44.599
 belt

00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:45.559
 and it

00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:45.919
 was like

00:30:45.919 --> 00:30:46.259
 get your

00:30:46.259 --> 00:30:46.500
 act

00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:46.819
 together

00:30:46.819 --> 00:30:47.419
 and then

00:30:47.419 --> 00:30:47.720
 you can

00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:47.980
 be in

00:30:47.980 --> 00:30:48.299
 God's

00:30:48.299 --> 00:30:48.679
 presence

00:30:48.679 --> 00:30:49.119
 and I

00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:49.359
 was at

00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:49.700
 Redeemer

00:30:49.700 --> 00:30:49.939
 then

00:30:49.939 --> 00:30:50.159
 under

00:30:50.159 --> 00:30:50.480
 Keller

00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:51.579
 and I

00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:52.019
 just

00:30:52.019 --> 00:30:52.500
 couldn't

00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:53.939
 and I

00:30:53.939 --> 00:30:54.159
 just

00:30:54.159 --> 00:30:54.539
 believe

00:30:54.539 --> 00:30:54.899
 that

00:30:54.899 --> 00:30:55.439
 you go

00:30:55.439 --> 00:30:55.939
 to church

00:30:55.939 --> 00:30:56.839
 especially

00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:57.779
 when you

00:30:57.779 --> 00:30:57.980
 don't

00:30:57.980 --> 00:30:58.299
 want to

00:30:58.299 --> 00:30:58.519
 go

00:30:58.519 --> 00:30:59.259
 go

00:30:59.259 --> 00:30:59.539
 when you

00:30:59.539 --> 00:30:59.859
 want to

00:30:59.859 --> 00:31:00.039
 go

00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:00.779
 but especially

00:31:00.779 --> 00:31:01.179
 when you

00:31:01.179 --> 00:31:01.359
 don't

00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:01.679
 want to

00:31:01.679 --> 00:31:01.859
 go

00:31:01.859 --> 00:31:02.639
 and I

00:31:02.639 --> 00:31:03.039
 never

00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.539
 regretted

00:31:04.539 --> 00:31:05.119
 going to

00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:05.379
 church

00:31:05.379 --> 00:31:05.939
 especially

00:31:05.939 --> 00:31:06.359
 when I

00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:06.559
 didn't

00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:06.839
 want to

00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:07.059
 go

00:31:07.059 --> 00:31:09.200
 yes I

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:10.000
 agree with

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:10.259
 you brother

00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:10.819
 that's great

00:31:10.819 --> 00:31:12.279
 and it

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:12.599
 happens to

00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:12.940
 me like

00:31:12.940 --> 00:31:13.579
 that where

00:31:13.579 --> 00:31:13.799
 I'm

00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:14.099
 thinking oh

00:31:14.099 --> 00:31:14.519
 my goodness

00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:16.419
 I'm feeling

00:31:16.419 --> 00:31:17.579
 overwhelmed by

00:31:17.579 --> 00:31:18.059
 this that or

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:18.379
 the other

00:31:18.379 --> 00:31:19.259
 why don't I

00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:20.099
 kind of

00:31:20.099 --> 00:31:21.220
 cut myself

00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:22.759
 some slack

00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:23.940
 and not go

00:31:23.940 --> 00:31:24.160
 everything

00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:25.120
 no no that's

00:31:25.120 --> 00:31:25.660
 just ridiculous

00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:27.059
 that's exactly

00:31:27.059 --> 00:31:27.559
 right doesn't

00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:28.180
 doesn't actually

00:31:28.180 --> 00:31:28.539
 in the end

00:31:28.539 --> 00:31:29.480
 help you

00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:30.880
 doesn't actually

00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:31.799
 what I need

00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:32.480
 to do then

00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:33.160
 is to practice

00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:33.680
 being the

00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:34.340
 creature rather

00:31:34.340 --> 00:31:34.580
 than the

00:31:34.580 --> 00:31:34.960
 creator

00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:36.400
 and church

00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:36.880
 will help

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.160
 me set

00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.059
 set my

00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:39.900
 compass right

00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:40.380
 again

00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:43.019
 yeah the

00:31:43.019 --> 00:31:43.559
 reason why

00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:43.900
 I've used

00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:44.820
 this picture

00:31:44.820 --> 00:31:45.180
 of the

00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:45.799
 compass is

00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:46.039
 that I

00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:47.519
 think when

00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:48.200
 you're on a

00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:48.980
 long walk

00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:50.019
 or a long

00:31:50.019 --> 00:31:50.440
 journey

00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:52.559
 then repeated

00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.440
 appeals to

00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:55.000
 the compass

00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:55.799
 is exactly

00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:56.360
 when you

00:31:56.360 --> 00:31:58.039
 need to

00:31:58.039 --> 00:31:58.559
 find your

00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:59.380
 bearings again

00:31:59.380 --> 00:31:59.940
 right if

00:31:59.940 --> 00:32:00.360
 you're going

00:32:00.360 --> 00:32:01.340
 two paces

00:32:01.340 --> 00:32:02.299
 a compass

00:32:02.299 --> 00:32:03.039
 isn't actually

00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:03.940
 of enormous

00:32:03.940 --> 00:32:05.120
 use but if

00:32:05.120 --> 00:32:05.820
 you know the

00:32:05.820 --> 00:32:06.580
 journey is long

00:32:06.580 --> 00:32:07.120
 and hard

00:32:07.120 --> 00:32:08.380
 with lots of

00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:08.920
 distractions

00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.440
 and lots of

00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.779
 ways that

00:32:12.779 --> 00:32:13.580
 you can be

00:32:13.580 --> 00:32:14.480
 set off track

00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.240
 then looking

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:16.779
 at your compass

00:32:16.779 --> 00:32:17.680
 repeatedly to

00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:18.539
 work out are

00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:19.299
 you still tracking

00:32:19.299 --> 00:32:19.840
 north one

00:32:19.840 --> 00:32:20.279
 degree

00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:21.139
 here or

00:32:21.139 --> 00:32:22.039
 there after

00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:22.599
 a year two

00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:23.160
 years five

00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:23.680
 years ten

00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:24.779
 years can

00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:25.160
 make an

00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:25.500
 enormous

00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:25.940
 difference you

00:32:25.940 --> 00:32:26.519
 can be so

00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:27.319
 far away from

00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:28.119
 the Lord if

00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:28.779
 you've only been

00:32:28.779 --> 00:32:30.220
 the first day

00:32:30.220 --> 00:32:30.920
 one degree

00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.299
 off so I'm

00:32:33.299 --> 00:32:34.180
 trying to argue

00:32:34.180 --> 00:32:35.200
 that coming to

00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:35.740
 church

00:32:35.740 --> 00:32:38.579
 practicing being

00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:40.200
 the creature

00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:40.859
 rather than the

00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:42.440
 creator learning

00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:43.220
 again to be the

00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:43.940
 called one

00:32:43.940 --> 00:32:44.960
 responding to

00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:45.660
 God's call

00:32:45.660 --> 00:32:47.200
 is a way of

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.500
 weakly

00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:49.660
 recalibrating

00:32:49.660 --> 00:32:50.920
 celebrating our

00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:51.400
 journey

00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:52.720
 weekly

00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.540
 setting

00:32:54.540 --> 00:32:55.340
 ourselves

00:32:55.340 --> 00:32:56.440
 due north

00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:56.820
 again

00:32:56.820 --> 00:32:58.680
 and I

00:32:58.680 --> 00:32:58.940
 think

00:32:58.940 --> 00:33:00.759
 we need to

00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:01.400
 do that

00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:02.000
 regularly

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:02.680
 and I'd say

00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:03.200
 weekly

00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:04.940
 in Hebrews

00:33:04.940 --> 00:33:05.600
 2 we're

00:33:05.600 --> 00:33:06.240
 reminded that

00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.200
 often people

00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:07.940
 stop being

00:33:07.940 --> 00:33:08.360
 Christians

00:33:08.360 --> 00:33:09.320
 because not

00:33:09.320 --> 00:33:09.880
 because they've

00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:10.880
 made a

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:11.320
 moral

00:33:11.320 --> 00:33:12.380
 a bad

00:33:12.380 --> 00:33:13.320
 moral choice

00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:13.939
 but they

00:33:13.939 --> 00:33:14.439
 kind of just

00:33:14.439 --> 00:33:14.980
 drift

00:33:14.980 --> 00:33:16.639
 like the

00:33:16.639 --> 00:33:17.220
 boat that

00:33:17.220 --> 00:33:17.579
 is no

00:33:17.579 --> 00:33:17.899
 longer

00:33:17.899 --> 00:33:18.919
 tethered

00:33:18.919 --> 00:33:20.000
 to the

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.099
 jetty

00:33:21.099 --> 00:33:22.759
 and without

00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:23.519
 realising it

00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:23.919
 you're very

00:33:23.919 --> 00:33:24.819
 quickly a

00:33:24.819 --> 00:33:25.259
 long way

00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:25.960
 away from

00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:26.759
 where you

00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:27.379
 want to be

00:33:27.379 --> 00:33:28.059
 given the

00:33:28.059 --> 00:33:28.700
 pull of the

00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:29.539
 sea and the

00:33:29.539 --> 00:33:30.059
 winds

00:33:30.059 --> 00:33:32.859
 yes please

00:33:32.859 --> 00:33:33.139
 brother

00:33:33.139 --> 00:33:35.099
 a couple

00:33:35.099 --> 00:33:35.440
 of times

00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:35.779
 you made

00:33:35.779 --> 00:33:36.299
 implicit

00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:37.679
 references to

00:33:37.679 --> 00:33:38.539
 how often

00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:39.559
 yes

00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:40.000
 one you

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:40.559
 just made

00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.019
 and I'm

00:33:42.019 --> 00:33:42.480
 just wondering

00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:42.899
 if you're

00:33:42.899 --> 00:33:43.259
 going to do

00:33:43.259 --> 00:33:43.639
 any more

00:33:43.639 --> 00:33:44.039
 than what

00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:44.460
 you just

00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:44.799
 did

00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.460
 which is

00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:48.159
 I think

00:33:48.159 --> 00:33:48.599
 weekly

00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:49.179
 would be

00:33:49.179 --> 00:33:49.579
 good

00:33:49.579 --> 00:33:51.019
 and you

00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:51.579
 said something

00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:51.899
 yes

00:33:51.899 --> 00:33:52.259
 sure

00:33:52.259 --> 00:33:53.460
 yes and

00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:54.220
 I do

00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:54.500
 think

00:33:54.500 --> 00:33:54.919
 weekly

00:33:54.919 --> 00:33:55.559
 is best

00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:56.579
 that is

00:33:56.579 --> 00:33:57.599
 it might

00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:57.859
 be good

00:33:57.859 --> 00:33:58.019
 if we

00:33:58.019 --> 00:33:58.259
 went to

00:33:58.259 --> 00:33:58.500
 church

00:33:58.500 --> 00:33:59.019
 twice a

00:33:59.019 --> 00:33:59.279
 day

00:33:59.279 --> 00:33:59.619
 I think

00:33:59.619 --> 00:33:59.879
 it's not

00:33:59.879 --> 00:34:00.079
 going to

00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:00.339
 happen

00:34:00.339 --> 00:34:00.779
 anytime

00:34:00.779 --> 00:34:01.379
 soon

00:34:01.379 --> 00:34:03.259
 but

00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:04.259
 weekly

00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:05.119
 is a

00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:05.500
 pattern

00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:06.000
 that the

00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:06.339
 scriptures

00:34:06.339 --> 00:34:07.099
 give us

00:34:07.099 --> 00:34:09.639
 both in

00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:10.340
 terms of

00:34:10.340 --> 00:34:11.300
 Old Testament

00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:11.860
 worship

00:34:11.860 --> 00:34:13.279
 and New

00:34:13.279 --> 00:34:13.800
 Testament

00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:14.519
 worship

00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:15.179
 as well

00:34:15.179 --> 00:34:17.739
 for the

00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:18.259
 reason that

00:34:18.259 --> 00:34:18.820
 as that

00:34:18.820 --> 00:34:19.539
 final point

00:34:19.539 --> 00:34:19.980
 makes

00:34:19.980 --> 00:34:22.659
 we're

00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:23.139
 setting our

00:34:23.139 --> 00:34:23.840
 compass to

00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:24.320
 north

00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:25.119
 we're

00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:26.000
 recalibrating

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:26.840
 our walk

00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:27.920
 weekly

00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:29.079
 churches

00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:29.500
 like a

00:34:29.500 --> 00:34:29.759
 compass

00:34:29.759 --> 00:34:30.239
 because

00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:30.880
 the

00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:31.219
 first

00:34:31.219 --> 00:34:31.840
 Christians

00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:32.960
 moved

00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.000
 their

00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:34.500
 worship

00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:34.860
 day

00:34:34.860 --> 00:34:35.179
 from

00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:35.779
 Saturday

00:34:35.779 --> 00:34:36.819
 to

00:34:36.819 --> 00:34:37.279
 Sunday

00:34:37.279 --> 00:34:37.599
 to

00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:37.799
 the

00:34:37.799 --> 00:34:38.319
 Lord's

00:34:38.319 --> 00:34:38.659
 day

00:34:38.659 --> 00:34:39.279
 to

00:34:39.279 --> 00:34:39.519
 the

00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:40.420
 first

00:34:40.420 --> 00:34:40.960
 day

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:41.360
 of

00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:41.599
 the

00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:41.880
 new

00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:42.279
 week

00:34:42.279 --> 00:34:43.039
 rather

00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:43.259
 than

00:34:43.259 --> 00:34:43.460
 the

00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:43.900
 seventh

00:34:43.900 --> 00:34:44.420
 day

00:34:44.420 --> 00:34:45.059
 of

00:34:45.059 --> 00:34:45.279
 the

00:34:45.279 --> 00:34:45.659
 old

00:34:45.659 --> 00:34:46.099
 week

00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:47.059
 that

00:34:47.059 --> 00:34:47.340
 is

00:34:47.340 --> 00:34:47.739
 what

00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:47.940
 we're

00:34:47.940 --> 00:34:48.239
 doing

00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:48.480
 on

00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:48.980
 Sundays

00:34:48.980 --> 00:34:49.639
 is

00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:50.639
 recalibrating

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:50.880
 our

00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:51.340
 journey

00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:52.400
 around

00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:52.900
 the

00:34:52.900 --> 00:34:53.400
 new

00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:54.139
 world

00:34:54.139 --> 00:34:55.559
 world

00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:55.719
 that

00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:55.900
 was

00:34:55.900 --> 00:34:56.299
 begun

00:34:56.299 --> 00:34:56.500
 with

00:34:56.500 --> 00:34:56.639
 the

00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:57.000
 resurrection

00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:57.259
 of

00:34:57.259 --> 00:34:57.480
 Jesus

00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:58.019
 Christ

00:34:58.019 --> 00:34:59.279
 and

00:34:59.279 --> 00:35:00.500
 consequently

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:01.920
 it's not

00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:02.299
 to say

00:35:02.299 --> 00:35:02.900
 therefore

00:35:02.900 --> 00:35:05.639
 it's not

00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:05.980
 the only

00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:06.519
 argument I

00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:07.179
 give for

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:07.559
 weekly

00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:07.920
 worship

00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:08.619
 but at

00:35:08.619 --> 00:35:08.879
 least

00:35:08.879 --> 00:35:09.400
 this

00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:09.699
 that

00:35:09.699 --> 00:35:10.319
 we are

00:35:10.319 --> 00:35:10.519
 being

00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:10.940
 reminded

00:35:10.940 --> 00:35:11.500
 every

00:35:11.500 --> 00:35:12.179
 Sunday

00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:13.839
 of

00:35:13.839 --> 00:35:14.099
 the

00:35:14.099 --> 00:35:14.420
 new

00:35:14.420 --> 00:35:14.799
 world

00:35:14.799 --> 00:35:15.000
 that

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:15.279
 we've

00:35:15.279 --> 00:35:15.659
 begun

00:35:15.659 --> 00:35:15.940
 to

00:35:15.940 --> 00:35:16.420
 celebrate

00:35:16.420 --> 00:35:16.900
 on

00:35:16.900 --> 00:35:17.079
 the

00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:17.579
 Lord's

00:35:17.579 --> 00:35:17.900
 day

00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:19.079
 and I

00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:19.420
 need

00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:19.720
 that

00:35:19.720 --> 00:35:21.079
 I

00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:21.400
 need

00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:21.619
 that

00:35:21.619 --> 00:35:22.180
 reminder

00:35:22.180 --> 00:35:22.840
 and that

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:23.400
 shaping

00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:23.800
 every

00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:24.180
 week

00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:25.160
 to

00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:25.619
 orient

00:35:25.619 --> 00:35:26.039
 my

00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:26.420
 heart

00:35:26.420 --> 00:35:26.599
 to

00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:26.820
 true

00:35:26.820 --> 00:35:27.200
 north

00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:27.400
 to

00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:27.559
 the

00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:27.740
 new

00:35:27.740 --> 00:35:28.059
 heavens

00:35:28.059 --> 00:35:28.180
 and

00:35:28.180 --> 00:35:28.280
 the

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:28.460
 new

00:35:28.460 --> 00:35:28.760
 earth

00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:28.980
 when

00:35:28.980 --> 00:35:29.180
 I'll

00:35:29.180 --> 00:35:29.340
 meet

00:35:29.340 --> 00:35:29.519
 the

00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:29.740
 Lord

00:35:29.740 --> 00:35:30.220
 face

00:35:30.220 --> 00:35:30.380
 to

00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:30.820
 face

00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:32.820
 I'll

00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:32.940
 give

00:35:32.940 --> 00:35:33.039
 in

00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:33.260
 some

00:35:33.260 --> 00:35:33.900
 texts

00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:34.280
 there

00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:34.599
 which

00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:35.099
 point

00:35:35.099 --> 00:35:35.420
 out

00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:36.220
 the

00:35:36.220 --> 00:35:36.900
 novelty

00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:37.500
 of

00:35:37.500 --> 00:35:38.200
 the

00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:38.860
 Lord's

00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:39.260
 day

00:35:39.260 --> 00:35:40.440
 the

00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:40.940
 Sunday

00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:42.240
 as

00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:42.420
 the

00:35:42.420 --> 00:35:42.680
 day

00:35:42.680 --> 00:35:42.920
 for

00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:43.380
 Christians

00:35:43.380 --> 00:35:43.860
 meeting

00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:45.039
 but of

00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:45.280
 course

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:45.639
 in

00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:46.660
 Hebrews

00:35:46.660 --> 00:35:47.559
 4

00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:48.219
 9

00:35:48.219 --> 00:35:49.019
 as

00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:49.380
 well

00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:50.340
 we're

00:35:50.340 --> 00:35:51.199
 reminded

00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:51.500
 that

00:35:51.500 --> 00:35:51.920
 what

00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:52.139
 we're

00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:52.440
 doing

00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:52.679
 on

00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:53.099
 Sundays

00:35:53.099 --> 00:35:53.440
 is

00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:54.079
 practicing

00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.679
 for

00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:55.860
 the

00:35:55.860 --> 00:35:56.380
 eternal

00:35:56.380 --> 00:35:56.840
 Sabbath

00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.820
 and

00:35:58.820 --> 00:35:59.179
 so

00:35:59.179 --> 00:35:59.519
 it's

00:35:59.519 --> 00:35:59.860
 not a

00:35:59.860 --> 00:36:00.139
 bad

00:36:00.139 --> 00:36:00.420
 way

00:36:00.420 --> 00:36:00.659
 of

00:36:00.659 --> 00:36:01.279
 honoring

00:36:01.279 --> 00:36:02.039
 Sundays

00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.679
 this

00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:05.079
 being

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:05.460
 our

00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:05.940
 Sabbath

00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:06.420
 rest

00:36:06.420 --> 00:36:07.299
 as a

00:36:07.299 --> 00:36:07.599
 way of

00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:08.039
 practicing

00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:08.340
 the

00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:08.599
 Sabbath

00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:09.019
 rest

00:36:09.019 --> 00:36:09.460
 forever

00:36:09.460 --> 00:36:10.719
 I

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:11.019
 work

00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:11.779
 hard

00:36:11.779 --> 00:36:12.199
 and I'm

00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:12.440
 a single

00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:12.679
 man

00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:13.059
 so I

00:36:13.059 --> 00:36:13.340
 work

00:36:13.340 --> 00:36:13.639
 kind

00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:13.739
 of

00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:13.920
 too

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:14.159
 much

00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:14.619
 basically

00:36:14.619 --> 00:36:15.579
 but

00:36:15.579 --> 00:36:16.139
 a good

00:36:16.139 --> 00:36:16.299
 thing

00:36:16.299 --> 00:36:16.559
 about

00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:17.480
 a

00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:17.820
 Sabbath

00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:18.340
 rest

00:36:18.340 --> 00:36:18.559
 is

00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:18.820
 I'm

00:36:18.820 --> 00:36:19.059
 telling

00:36:19.059 --> 00:36:19.619
 myself

00:36:19.619 --> 00:36:20.199
 I'm

00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:20.380
 not

00:36:20.380 --> 00:36:20.739
 stronger

00:36:20.739 --> 00:36:20.960
 than

00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:21.279
 God

00:36:21.279 --> 00:36:23.039
 I

00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:23.259
 need

00:36:23.259 --> 00:36:23.440
 to

00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:23.739
 rest

00:36:23.739 --> 00:36:24.019
 as

00:36:24.019 --> 00:36:24.299
 well

00:36:24.299 --> 00:36:24.559
 if

00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:24.840
 God

00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:25.159
 did

00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:26.039
 and

00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:26.599
 Sundays

00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:27.539
 might

00:36:27.539 --> 00:36:27.799
 be a

00:36:27.799 --> 00:36:27.920
 good

00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:28.139
 day

00:36:28.139 --> 00:36:28.259
 to

00:36:28.259 --> 00:36:28.460
 do

00:36:28.460 --> 00:36:29.219
 it

00:36:29.219 --> 00:36:29.839
 menos

00:36:29.839 --> 00:36:31.139
 back

00:36:31.139 --> 00:36:31.480
신

00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.079
 hey

00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.579
 any

00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:34.819
 other

00:36:34.819 --> 00:36:35.379
 thoughts

00:36:35.379 --> 00:36:35.659
 means

00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:37.919
 so

00:36:37.919 --> 00:36:39.319
 the

00:36:39.319 --> 00:36:40.259
 original

00:36:40.259 --> 00:36:40.839
 Sabbath

00:36:40.839 --> 00:36:41.500
 was

00:36:41.500 --> 00:36:41.939
 from

00:36:41.939 --> 00:36:42.679
 sunset

00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:43.379
 Friday

00:36:43.379 --> 00:36:43.799
 to

00:36:43.799 --> 00:36:44.279
 sunset

00:36:44.279 --> 00:36:44.899
 Saturday

00:36:44.899 --> 00:36:45.559
 correct

00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:46.019
 and that

00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:46.799
 transition

00:36:46.799 --> 00:36:48.019
 into

00:36:48.019 --> 00:36:49.179
 Sunday

00:36:49.179 --> 00:36:52.099
 do you

00:36:52.099 --> 00:36:52.299
 know

00:36:52.299 --> 00:36:52.819
 exactly

00:36:52.819 --> 00:36:53.259
 how that

00:36:53.259 --> 00:36:53.679
 took place

00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:54.139
 and why

00:36:54.139 --> 00:36:54.419
 it took

00:36:54.419 --> 00:36:54.859
 place

00:36:54.860 --> 00:37:02.019
 Yes, so the earliest Christians wanted to recognise the resurrection of Christ

00:37:02.019 --> 00:37:08.220
 and on the first day of the week, on the Sunday,

00:37:09.019 --> 00:37:13.300
 and because of his resurrection and his resurrection power

00:37:13.300 --> 00:37:18.180
 and the new power we have as God's New Testament people.

00:37:18.180 --> 00:37:22.760
 So it was a model recognising the centrality of Jesus' resurrection.

00:37:24.860 --> 00:37:30.260
 I thought I read something about a Catholic priest initiating it,

00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:35.940
 inaugurating it on a Saturday, taking it away from the day, Friday,

00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.400
 I mean on a Sunday, taking it away from Saturday, put it on a Sunday, so I didn't know.

00:37:40.640 --> 00:37:45.180
 Yes, I say, no, it's a long time before there were Catholic priests.

00:37:45.900 --> 00:37:50.720
 So in those texts I've given you there, even the writers of the New Testament

00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:54.919
 recognised that now this day, this Sunday, this Lord's Day,

00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.779
 is the day where it's appropriate for Christians to gather to worship their risen King.

00:38:04.779 --> 00:38:08.139
 In the Western world, I assume it's typical in Australia as well,

00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:13.759
 like we kind of have a rhythm now of five days of work and two days of weekend.

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:18.100
 In Australia we do two days of work and five days of work.

00:38:21.040 --> 00:38:27.860
 Have you thought much about sort of the difference between maybe a biblical view of a week

00:38:27.860 --> 00:38:29.820
 and a cultural view of a week?

00:38:30.060 --> 00:38:30.460
 Interesting.

00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.720
 So you mean the biblical view being six and one rather than five and two?

00:38:34.820 --> 00:38:36.880
 Well, and also, like, it just occurs to me,

00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.760
 there are some people who feel very inconvenienced by going to church in the morning

00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.720
 because it's right in the middle of their weekend.

00:38:41.980 --> 00:38:42.660
 Yeah, sure.

00:38:42.680 --> 00:38:44.700
 And you just sort of described it as being,

00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:46.380
 hey, this should be the beginning of our week.

00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.080
 Yeah, and if, you know, like in some of our churches in Melbourne,

00:38:52.180 --> 00:38:55.700
 people have a holiday house or a vacation house and they go away for the weekend

00:38:55.700 --> 00:38:57.480
 and they don't get back.

00:38:57.540 --> 00:38:59.820
 They think they're doing well to get to church once a month

00:38:59.820 --> 00:39:02.840
 because they're down at the beach the other weekends, whatever it might be.

00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:12.880
 I think the pattern of one and six or five and two has been the most successful in history.

00:39:13.660 --> 00:39:17.340
 So in the French Revolution they tried to make the working week ten days.

00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.640
 You work for nine and have the tenth off.

00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.240
 That didn't last very long.

00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:29.120
 And it's actually why when the French decided after their revolution to have a ten-day week,

00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:36.839
 that's when the English turned up the volume on having a Sabbath rest

00:39:36.839 --> 00:39:39.839
 because they wanted to be unlike the French, right?

00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:44.299
 And so the importance of Sabbath in Victorian England

00:39:44.299 --> 00:39:47.880
 became increasingly important to show that we're not the French.

00:39:48.839 --> 00:39:53.440
 We have a very strict six-on-one rule here, right?

00:39:54.380 --> 00:39:58.619
 Yeah, of course, and kids have sport, at least in Australia.

00:39:58.619 --> 00:40:01.639
 Kids have sport on Sunday morning, Saturday morning, Sunday morning.

00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.279
 So that means that it's more difficult.

00:40:04.420 --> 00:40:08.920
 It might mean that we need to think more flexibly about service times.

00:40:10.219 --> 00:40:13.420
 So I know that there are churches in Melbourne that have Sunday night services

00:40:13.420 --> 00:40:16.900
 so that those folk who've been away for the weekend at their holiday house,

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 their vacation house, can get to church on Sunday nights as part of their strategy.

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 You think, well, being as a person who doesn't have a holiday house,

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 I don't have much sympathy for them.

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 If I did, I'm sure I'd like the arrangement.

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 Our son used to go with us from age 11 to like 14 or 15

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 to the RP in Cambridge, and he got baptized,

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 and I'd go to Bible school and all that, and worship.

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 He knew the language and really loved the Lord,

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 and he's an oboe player, and he went to conservatory.

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 First boarding school, then conservatory.

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 Now he's in L.A., and he's auditioning all over the world for an oboe player.

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 And early on in his career, it was oboe on Sunday.

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 He's completely left to faith.

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 And it's a heartbreaker, and we wish, you know, what do you do?

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 What do you say?

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 Yes, that's awful.

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 This is his career.

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 He's a world-class oboe player, but he doesn't know the Lord.

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 He's fallen away.

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 Yes, so we, of course, wish that things had otherwise eventuated.

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 But I'd say this.

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 We ought not to develop our theology and our practice around the exceptions.

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 That is, there are going to be people who do work on Sundays,

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 either in trades or in professions where they have to.

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 That's just their job.

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 And you kind of go, okay.

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 But let's not then say, therefore, Sunday isn't the right thing to do.

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 Sunday, weekly worship isn't the right thing to do.

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 We still want to say it is, right?

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 We just recognise there are going to be exceptions.

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 We can't make law around exceptions.

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 You have to establish the principles and then help individual folk fit into that model,

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 given their own life situation.

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 Yes, but...

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 Do you have strong opinions, including communion, every time we get together,

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 as some denominations do, or just periodically,

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 or is there a biblical view of this that we can...

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 No, I don't know that there's a particular biblical view.

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 And there's a lot of theology that you have to sort through first

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 before you make the decision how often you have communion.

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 I'm an Anglican, so I do it more often than less often.

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 But that's just my tribe.

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 Good.

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 Well, I think we'll call it quits there.

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 I'll say a prayer for us, and then we can get ready for worship.

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 Our dear Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, we thank you so much for this morning,

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 this opportunity to talk and to listen,

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 to spur each other on to love and good deeds.

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 Even now I ask that you'd help us in the next hour or so to worship,

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 to practise being creatures before our Creator,

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 to respond to your call,

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 which comes before our obedience.

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 And I pray that you'd help us to learn these things such that we might teach others.

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 For we ask it in Christ's strong name.

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 Amen.

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 If those of you in the back could take your chairs and just fill them around the tables,

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 and if you're up in the front, if you want to stack the chairs over here,

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 that would be great help.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.