WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.339 A little boy was asked by a Sunday school teacher to draw a picture of Mary and Joseph and the baby Jesus 00:00:07.339 --> 00:00:11.120 in the midst of their flight into Egypt. 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.519 They were studying Matthew 2 verse 13, 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:20.620 where the angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and warned him to flee with his family 00:00:20.620 --> 00:00:23.179 from the murderous clutches of King Herod. 00:00:23.699 --> 00:00:28.500 And so this little boy put his best evidence into drawing a picture of an aeroplane. 00:00:29.500 --> 00:00:34.320 And when his teacher asked him, what have you done? 00:00:34.539 --> 00:00:36.840 He said, well, that's the flight to Egypt. 00:00:37.700 --> 00:00:41.019 And he pointed to the middle of the plane and said, can't you see? 00:00:41.740 --> 00:00:44.840 There's Joseph, there's Mary, there's the baby Jesus. 00:00:45.760 --> 00:00:48.519 And the teacher said, well, who's that? 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:54.019 Pointing at the front of the aeroplane in the cockpit, a little figure that was drawn there. 00:00:54.020 --> 00:00:58.880 The little boy glanced at her in a quizzical look, thinking, you're the Sunday school teacher. 00:00:58.940 --> 00:01:00.160 How could you be so ignorant? 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:02.560 And he said, really? 00:01:03.900 --> 00:01:05.879 That's Pontius the pilot, of course. 00:01:06.020 --> 00:01:06.780 Of course. 00:01:06.780 --> 00:01:17.760 It's so easy to be familiar with bits of the Christian faith and yet to totally misunderstand 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.540 what it's about. 00:01:20.659 --> 00:01:26.960 In fact, there are millions of people in this country who have rejected the Christian faith. 00:01:27.060 --> 00:01:32.120 They've got little bits of it, but have rejected the Christian faith for what is nothing more 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:35.579 than a pale imitation of the Christian faith. 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:43.260 And so Mark's gospel, as we've been going through in the last number of weeks, is that he does 00:01:43.260 --> 00:01:48.719 not want us to be vague about the Christian faith at all. 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:58.659 Above all, he wants us to get Jesus' identity right and his mission right. 00:01:58.659 --> 00:02:07.359 And for us to get those things right totally changes our view of this world and purpose and meaning 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:08.579 and everything else. 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:16.780 And so he longs for us to get an accurate picture of who Jesus is and what Jesus came to do. 00:02:17.419 --> 00:02:23.719 And so Mark 8 is the pivotal chapter in this gospel. 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:35.560 It is the climax of the first act in which the disciples finally begin to see the true identity of Jesus. 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:42.479 And we see that just before this passage which is in front of us here in the early section of Mark 8. 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:51.299 And from here on in, all events move towards Jerusalem. 00:02:52.359 --> 00:02:56.739 The betrayal, the whipping post, and the bloody cross. 00:02:57.679 --> 00:03:02.280 And so in this few verses in front of us this morning, Jesus says two things. 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:04.819 He says, firstly, I am. 00:03:04.899 --> 00:03:05.659 Peter, you're right. 00:03:05.659 --> 00:03:07.199 I am the king. 00:03:09.500 --> 00:03:11.699 I'm the king who goes to the cross. 00:03:13.340 --> 00:03:20.780 And secondly, he says, if you want to follow me, you've got to come to the cross too. 00:03:23.379 --> 00:03:30.479 So firstly, verse 29, Peter answers the big question of the first half of Mark's gospel. 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:32.280 Who is this Jesus? 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:32.479 Jesus. 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.960 And Peter declares, you are the Christ. 00:03:37.060 --> 00:03:41.199 He's using a word that literally means you are the anointed one. 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:44.039 The anointed one. 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:44.639 The Messiah. 00:03:44.780 --> 00:03:46.080 The king to end all kings. 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.360 The king who will put everything right. 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:54.680 And when Jesus, sorry, when Peter says that, when he makes that declaration, Jesus accepts it. 00:03:55.259 --> 00:03:56.560 Doesn't question Peter at all. 00:03:56.620 --> 00:03:57.400 He accepts it. 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:08.300 And then the very next thing that comes out of his mouth, they, Peter, the disciples, find it appalling. 00:04:08.860 --> 00:04:10.020 It is shocking. 00:04:10.379 --> 00:04:11.900 Take a look at verse 31 with me. 00:04:11.900 --> 00:04:22.720 He then began to teach them that the son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests, and the teacher of the law, and that he must be killed. 00:04:23.379 --> 00:04:25.300 And after three days rise again. 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.259 He spoke plainly about this. 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.740 And Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.639 He says, the son of man must suffer. 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:52.240 Now, when we read the son of man in Mark's gospel, we automatically think that, well, as opposed to him calling himself the son of God, he's affirming at this point his humanity, not just his divinity. 00:04:52.740 --> 00:05:03.879 But what he's doing here in this moment is that Jesus picks up the title of son of man from the passage we just read from Daniel chapter 7, verses 13 and 14, the Old Testament. 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:15.180 There in Daniel 7, the son of man is a divine messianic figure who comes with the angels to put everything right. 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:22.860 And yet what Jesus does here, he picks up that image from Daniel 7 and he adds something. 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:27.860 He says, this son of man must suffer. 00:05:27.860 --> 00:05:43.319 And this is the first time in the history of Israel that anyone had ever connected the Messiah, the Christ, with suffering. 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:50.899 There are many prophecies in the Old Testament about the mysterious servant of the Lord who suffers. 00:05:51.060 --> 00:05:59.240 But nobody before Jesus has ever connected those prophecies with the hope of the Messiah. 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:06.319 The notion of the Messiah's suffering makes no sense at all to the disciples. 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:15.040 You see, the Messiah was meant to defeat evil and injustice and make everything right in the world. 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.139 That's what they were looking forward to for centuries. 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:25.079 So how could the Messiah do all of that by suffering and dying? 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:29.180 But Jesus is emphatic here. 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:31.879 He uses the word must. 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.300 He's planning to die. 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.339 He's not merely predicting that he will die. 00:06:40.699 --> 00:06:42.839 He is planning to die. 00:06:43.459 --> 00:06:47.519 This is a voluntary act on his behalf. 00:06:48.259 --> 00:06:49.759 He must die. 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.060 And so at this point, Peter is offended. 00:06:53.759 --> 00:07:02.740 This is the one thing for Jesus to say that, you know, sorry, it's one thing for Jesus to say that he will fight and be defeated. 00:07:02.740 --> 00:07:09.900 It's another thing for him to say that the reason I came was to die. 00:07:10.900 --> 00:07:12.379 I came to die. 00:07:12.379 --> 00:07:21.339 And the moment Jesus says this, verse 32 says that Peter rebukes him. 00:07:22.620 --> 00:07:29.180 This is the word that's used elsewhere in the first section of Mark for what Jesus does with the demons. 00:07:29.180 --> 00:07:37.340 Peter is condemning Jesus in the strongest possible terms. 00:07:37.339 --> 00:07:42.919 So what has got Peter so worked up? 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.600 He's just declared Jesus the Messiah. 00:07:45.699 --> 00:07:46.939 So what's got him so worked up? 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:55.280 Well, the reality is for Peter, ever since he could crawl, he was told the Messiah would come. 00:07:55.840 --> 00:07:59.660 The Messiah would come and defeat evil and injustice and ascend the throne. 00:07:59.660 --> 00:08:09.840 And Jesus says that he is the Messiah, the king, to end all kings, but he has come not to live and to rule, but in fact to surrender and die. 00:08:11.820 --> 00:08:17.320 Jesus has come not to take power, but to lose it. 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.840 He's come not to rule, but to serve. 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:27.539 And that is how he is going to defeat evil and put everything right. 00:08:29.139 --> 00:08:37.000 Jesus says he must suffer, not that he would suffer. 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:43.600 And the word must is so essential in these verses that it's used twice. 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:51.980 The son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, 00:08:52.680 --> 00:08:59.100 and that he must be killed and after three days rise again. 00:08:59.560 --> 00:09:05.820 And so what that means is in those sentences, the word must controls the whole sentence. 00:09:05.820 --> 00:09:14.420 It controls the whole sentence in such a way that everything that's listed there is an absolute necessity. 00:09:17.420 --> 00:09:19.440 Jesus must suffer. 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.920 Jesus must be rejected by the authorities. 00:09:26.220 --> 00:09:28.000 Jesus must be killed. 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.240 Jesus must be resurrected. 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:41.879 And all of those musts have to happen for people to be saved and for the world to be renewed. 00:09:43.460 --> 00:09:46.019 So let me just look at a couple of them very briefly. 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:49.220 There's a personal necessity for Jesus' death. 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.580 That is, we need Jesus to die. 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.580 That is, that's the personal necessity of it. 00:09:56.580 --> 00:10:01.900 We all know the difference between false and true love or fake and authentic love. 00:10:02.180 --> 00:10:04.180 That's a reality for everyone. 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:11.080 In false love, our aim is to use another person to fulfill our sense of happiness. 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:12.639 That's what happens with false love. 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.139 That is, our love at that point is conditional. 00:10:17.560 --> 00:10:23.300 It is only given when the other person is affirming us and meeting our needs. 00:10:23.299 --> 00:10:31.099 The moment they stop affirming us and meeting our needs, that's when our false love turns into more of an aggression towards them, 00:10:31.459 --> 00:10:35.559 which operates in most marriages and relationships. 00:10:36.459 --> 00:10:41.519 False love, therefore, will never allow itself to be vulnerable. 00:10:43.379 --> 00:10:49.679 You always have to hold something back in case you need to cut your losses and run. 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:59.879 And the aim of true love is, in fact, to spend yourself and use yourself for the happiness of the other 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:04.479 because your joy is wrapped up in their joy. 00:11:04.839 --> 00:11:05.779 That's true love. 00:11:07.479 --> 00:11:10.759 And this love, true love, is unconditional. 00:11:12.479 --> 00:11:16.319 You give it whether your needs are being met or not. 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.600 And it's radically vulnerable. 00:11:21.340 --> 00:11:22.540 You spend everything. 00:11:22.700 --> 00:11:23.640 You hold nothing back. 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:24.740 You give it all away. 00:11:26.280 --> 00:11:33.020 And the problem is that there's not a single person on the face of this earth 00:11:33.020 --> 00:11:36.920 who's actually fully capable of giving true love. 00:11:37.640 --> 00:11:39.120 Not a single individual. 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.799 We desperately need it. 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:46.580 Every single one of us wants it and needs it. 00:11:47.220 --> 00:11:49.679 But none of us are capable of giving it. 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:53.580 That just screws everything up. 00:11:53.580 --> 00:12:00.720 Not that we can't give any kind of true love, 00:12:01.379 --> 00:12:05.740 but nobody is fully capable of giving true love. 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:11.759 All of our love towards other people is somewhat fake and flawed. 00:12:13.160 --> 00:12:14.420 So what are we going to do? 00:12:14.419 --> 00:12:19.159 We need to be loved like we need oxygen or water. 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:21.279 We cannot live without love. 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:32.059 And unfortunately, the result is a kind of mercenary nature to our love. 00:12:32.699 --> 00:12:37.079 We invest our love where we get good return of personal affirmation, 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:38.699 where we get love back. 00:12:39.699 --> 00:12:43.559 Therefore, our love is always conditional and it's non-vulnerable. 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:48.799 And obviously, there are some people who are more able to love than others, 00:12:48.979 --> 00:12:54.579 but nobody can give anyone else, nobody can give anyone else, 00:12:54.839 --> 00:12:58.659 the kind or the amount of love that they are starving for. 00:13:01.299 --> 00:13:04.679 We are all the same, really, groping for true love 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:07.399 and incapable of giving it. 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:17.620 What every one of us needs is for someone to love us 00:13:17.620 --> 00:13:21.639 who doesn't need us to love them. 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.939 We need someone to love us 00:13:24.939 --> 00:13:30.100 who doesn't need us at all, in fact. 00:13:30.100 --> 00:13:36.399 Someone who loves us radically, unconditionally, vulnerably. 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:40.420 And that person is Jesus. 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:45.019 We've just celebrated, remembered this last weekend at Easter. 00:13:45.019 --> 00:13:50.100 You might remember an earlier message in this series, 00:13:50.439 --> 00:13:51.939 and I'll forgive you if you don't, 00:13:52.340 --> 00:13:56.740 where I talked about God being three persons in one. 00:13:57.100 --> 00:13:59.139 God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. 00:13:59.220 --> 00:14:01.299 And I mentioned that the very essence of God, 00:14:01.439 --> 00:14:03.539 before anything was made, 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:05.379 the very essence of God, 00:14:05.779 --> 00:14:08.759 is self-giving, mutual love relationship. 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:13.220 God existed in unconditional love, 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:16.340 for everlasting to everlasting. 00:14:17.220 --> 00:14:20.620 Within himself, God has forever had all the love, 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:22.879 all the fulfillment, and all the joy 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:25.419 that he could possibly want. 00:14:26.059 --> 00:14:28.080 And so Jesus doesn't need us 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:33.399 in order to extract more love for himself. 00:14:34.340 --> 00:14:37.080 He is already filled up. 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.200 He lacks nothing at all. 00:14:39.920 --> 00:14:42.920 And the only way we can get true love 00:14:42.920 --> 00:14:45.060 is from someone who's already 00:14:45.060 --> 00:14:47.400 entirely filled up with love. 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.160 Let me read to you one person's testimony 00:14:54.160 --> 00:14:58.420 on the difference Jesus' love makes to their life now. 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:01.160 She wrote, 00:15:01.280 --> 00:15:04.340 A major issue in my life has been people-pleasing. 00:15:05.020 --> 00:15:06.460 I needed approval. 00:15:06.460 --> 00:15:09.660 To be liked, admired, accepted. 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:11.940 But for the first time, 00:15:12.259 --> 00:15:14.560 I was able to see how important it was 00:15:14.560 --> 00:15:16.500 that I identified with Jesus. 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.560 His love towards me 00:15:19.560 --> 00:15:21.740 has enabled me to set up 00:15:21.740 --> 00:15:23.940 emotional boundaries with people 00:15:23.940 --> 00:15:26.200 that I never could have before. 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:29.200 This has enabled me 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.360 to love my friends and my family 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:32.580 for who they are 00:15:32.580 --> 00:15:35.320 and not seek more from them. 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.120 Because I find whatever is lacking 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.080 in me 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:42.879 in Jesus. 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.480 It's been a huge relief 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:49.400 to finally feel free enough 00:15:49.400 --> 00:15:51.240 to love people 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.160 and know that in Jesus 00:15:53.160 --> 00:15:56.560 I am safe and protected. 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:59.539 You see, 00:15:59.619 --> 00:16:00.859 the security of Jesus' love 00:16:00.859 --> 00:16:02.079 enables her 00:16:02.079 --> 00:16:03.819 to need less 00:16:03.819 --> 00:16:05.919 and to love more. 00:16:07.599 --> 00:16:08.299 True love 00:16:08.299 --> 00:16:09.579 actually creates 00:16:09.579 --> 00:16:10.759 more true love. 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.579 It's self-perpetuating. 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.559 It's a self-perpetuating motion. 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:16.500 True love 00:16:16.500 --> 00:16:18.059 actually creates 00:16:18.059 --> 00:16:19.219 more true love. 00:16:19.220 --> 00:16:22.960 It makes more of itself 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:24.180 as it goes along 00:16:24.180 --> 00:16:24.980 from one person 00:16:24.980 --> 00:16:25.639 to the next person 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:26.399 to the next person. 00:16:27.100 --> 00:16:28.600 That's what true love does. 00:16:31.180 --> 00:16:33.480 And so Jesus must die. 00:16:34.620 --> 00:16:36.100 He must love us 00:16:36.100 --> 00:16:38.620 by giving himself for us. 00:16:40.340 --> 00:16:42.639 For God so loved the world 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.100 that he gave his only son. 00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:48.399 He must die 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:49.980 because without it 00:16:49.980 --> 00:16:51.480 this world 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:52.879 has got nothing 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:54.399 to break 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.240 the destructive cycle 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.560 of manipulative 00:16:57.560 --> 00:16:58.800 conditional 00:16:58.800 --> 00:17:01.040 non-vulnerable 00:17:01.040 --> 00:17:01.840 love 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:02.800 where we 00:17:02.800 --> 00:17:04.839 seek to extract it 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:05.420 from others. 00:17:08.380 --> 00:17:09.400 But there's also 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:10.400 a legal necessity 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:11.620 for Jesus' death. 00:17:11.619 --> 00:17:15.719 Jesus must also die 00:17:15.719 --> 00:17:17.679 because it's not just 00:17:17.679 --> 00:17:18.619 a personal necessity 00:17:18.619 --> 00:17:19.759 and a relational necessity 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:21.059 it's a legal necessity 00:17:21.059 --> 00:17:21.779 for his death. 00:17:22.339 --> 00:17:23.039 When someone 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:24.359 does wrong to you 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:25.579 by trying to extract 00:17:25.579 --> 00:17:26.179 love from you 00:17:26.179 --> 00:17:26.699 for instance 00:17:26.699 --> 00:17:28.219 what happens 00:17:28.219 --> 00:17:28.819 in that moment 00:17:28.819 --> 00:17:29.859 is a debt 00:17:29.859 --> 00:17:30.959 against that person 00:17:30.959 --> 00:17:31.759 has accumulated. 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:33.419 It's established. 00:17:33.539 --> 00:17:34.179 A debt's established. 00:17:34.879 --> 00:17:35.459 And it could be 00:17:35.459 --> 00:17:36.719 an economic debt 00:17:36.719 --> 00:17:37.139 for instance 00:17:37.139 --> 00:17:37.899 if someone came 00:17:37.899 --> 00:17:39.339 and took my iPad 00:17:39.339 --> 00:17:41.019 and you know 00:17:41.019 --> 00:17:42.259 ran away with it 00:17:42.259 --> 00:17:44.139 you would owe 00:17:44.139 --> 00:17:46.759 well not technically me 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:47.720 you would owe 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:48.660 St. Paul's Chatswood 00:17:48.660 --> 00:17:49.960 approximately 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:51.039 I don't know 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:52.019 what these things are worth 00:17:52.019 --> 00:17:53.980 seven, eight, nine hundred dollars 00:17:53.980 --> 00:17:54.579 I've got no idea 00:17:54.579 --> 00:17:55.200 whatever they're worth 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.720 and there's two options 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:58.539 in that moment. 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:02.720 I would either say 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:03.639 with the permission 00:18:03.639 --> 00:18:04.339 of the wardens 00:18:04.339 --> 00:18:06.379 that will be 00:18:06.379 --> 00:18:07.220 nine hundred dollars 00:18:07.220 --> 00:18:07.720 please 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:09.960 or 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.180 I say 00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:13.880 I forgive you 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:15.900 don't worry about it 00:18:15.900 --> 00:18:17.660 there's only two options 00:18:17.660 --> 00:18:18.519 either 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:19.839 give me the money 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:20.799 or 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:22.460 I forgive you 00:18:22.460 --> 00:18:25.720 now in the first case 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.860 you pay the debt 00:18:27.860 --> 00:18:29.339 you hand over the money 00:18:29.339 --> 00:18:32.220 in the second case 00:18:32.220 --> 00:18:34.100 I pay the debt 00:18:34.100 --> 00:18:35.279 or we collectively 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:36.160 pay the debt 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:39.200 you see 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:39.660 the value 00:18:39.660 --> 00:18:40.359 of the iPad 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:41.599 doesn't just 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:42.440 disappear 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.559 it doesn't just go 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:46.720 it still exists 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.579 and the value 00:18:48.579 --> 00:18:49.099 of the iPad 00:18:49.099 --> 00:18:50.240 doesn't disappear 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:50.779 either 00:18:50.779 --> 00:18:51.779 I have to pay 00:18:51.779 --> 00:18:52.920 for a new one 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:54.059 or 00:18:54.059 --> 00:18:57.259 I have to pay 00:18:57.259 --> 00:18:58.059 for a new one 00:18:58.059 --> 00:18:58.819 by not buying 00:18:58.819 --> 00:18:59.359 a new one 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:00.279 and going back 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:01.299 to paper and pen 00:19:01.299 --> 00:19:03.379 either way 00:19:03.379 --> 00:19:04.200 I have to pay 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:04.840 for something 00:19:04.840 --> 00:19:06.700 it's either 00:19:06.700 --> 00:19:07.000 go 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:07.759 and if I 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:08.440 if I just say 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:09.000 forgive you 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:09.720 I've still got 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:10.039 a debt 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:10.380 that needs 00:19:10.380 --> 00:19:10.920 to be paid 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.140 so I have to go 00:19:13.140 --> 00:19:13.460 and either 00:19:13.460 --> 00:19:14.279 buy another iPad 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:15.500 or I have to 00:19:15.500 --> 00:19:16.160 insert to 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.160 paper and pen 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.120 either way 00:19:19.120 --> 00:19:19.980 there's still a debt 00:19:19.980 --> 00:19:20.759 that has to be paid 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:25.039 the debt 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:25.720 has to be 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:26.140 absorbed 00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:27.100 in some way 00:19:27.100 --> 00:19:28.500 and this 00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:29.180 happens at 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:30.059 every level 00:19:30.059 --> 00:19:30.799 of our 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:31.360 interpersonal 00:19:31.360 --> 00:19:32.120 relationships 00:19:32.120 --> 00:19:32.900 and society 00:19:32.900 --> 00:19:34.080 if someone 00:19:34.080 --> 00:19:34.900 robs us 00:19:34.900 --> 00:19:35.880 of an opportunity 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:37.580 or of our 00:19:37.580 --> 00:19:38.000 happiness 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.120 or of our 00:19:39.120 --> 00:19:39.780 reputation 00:19:39.780 --> 00:19:40.560 or of something 00:19:40.560 --> 00:19:40.940 else 00:19:40.940 --> 00:19:42.019 it creates 00:19:42.019 --> 00:19:42.780 a sense 00:19:42.780 --> 00:19:43.640 of relational 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:44.220 debt 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:46.640 justice 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:48.160 has been 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.000 violated 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:50.700 and a debt 00:19:50.700 --> 00:19:51.220 has been 00:19:51.220 --> 00:19:51.800 accrued 00:19:51.800 --> 00:19:53.200 and there are 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:53.940 only two choices 00:19:53.940 --> 00:19:54.640 in that moment 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:56.460 you can make 00:19:56.460 --> 00:19:57.259 them pay 00:19:57.259 --> 00:19:58.540 their debt 00:19:58.539 --> 00:20:00.460 by destroying 00:20:00.460 --> 00:20:01.639 their opportunities 00:20:01.639 --> 00:20:03.019 by ruining 00:20:03.019 --> 00:20:05.200 their reputation 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.599 by stealing 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:09.259 something of 00:20:09.259 --> 00:20:10.119 their happiness 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:15.059 you can hope 00:20:15.059 --> 00:20:15.740 that they suffer 00:20:15.740 --> 00:20:16.460 potentially even 00:20:16.460 --> 00:20:17.019 pray that they 00:20:17.019 --> 00:20:17.339 suffer 00:20:17.339 --> 00:20:19.639 maybe ensure 00:20:19.639 --> 00:20:20.279 that they do 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:20.779 suffer 00:20:20.779 --> 00:20:25.259 there's a 00:20:25.259 --> 00:20:26.000 personal toll 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:26.559 to this 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.700 when you 00:20:29.700 --> 00:20:32.019 making them 00:20:32.019 --> 00:20:32.720 pay off 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:33.460 their personal 00:20:33.460 --> 00:20:34.039 debt to you 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:35.019 by suffering 00:20:35.019 --> 00:20:37.119 what happens 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:37.539 is 00:20:37.539 --> 00:20:39.259 you become 00:20:39.259 --> 00:20:40.259 like them 00:20:40.259 --> 00:20:43.819 that's where 00:20:43.819 --> 00:20:44.599 it doesn't win 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:45.720 that's where 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:46.480 it doesn't work 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:47.879 the moment 00:20:47.879 --> 00:20:48.379 you 00:20:48.379 --> 00:20:49.759 reciprocate 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:50.700 like for like 00:20:50.700 --> 00:20:52.819 you become 00:20:52.819 --> 00:20:53.559 like them 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.619 you become 00:20:55.619 --> 00:20:56.039 harder 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:57.159 you become 00:20:57.159 --> 00:20:57.619 colder 00:20:57.619 --> 00:20:59.019 and 00:20:59.019 --> 00:21:00.000 evil 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:00.899 wins 00:21:00.899 --> 00:21:03.299 and the 00:21:03.299 --> 00:21:04.119 only alternative 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:05.159 is to forgive 00:21:05.159 --> 00:21:06.480 but that's 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:07.200 really hard 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:09.519 it is 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:10.179 agony 00:21:10.179 --> 00:21:11.099 to 00:21:11.099 --> 00:21:12.099 refrain 00:21:12.099 --> 00:21:12.819 from 00:21:12.819 --> 00:21:13.460 vengeance 00:21:13.460 --> 00:21:14.599 and to 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:15.119 forgive 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:15.720 instead 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:17.579 it is 00:21:17.579 --> 00:21:18.119 agony 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:19.599 because 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:20.480 instead 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:21.099 of 00:21:21.099 --> 00:21:21.940 extracting 00:21:21.940 --> 00:21:22.779 payment 00:21:22.779 --> 00:21:23.240 for the 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:23.500 debt 00:21:23.500 --> 00:21:24.640 you're 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:25.019 choosing 00:21:25.019 --> 00:21:25.420 to 00:21:25.420 --> 00:21:26.180 absorb 00:21:26.180 --> 00:21:26.960 the 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:27.240 debt 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.640 you're 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:30.240 absorbing 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:30.559 the 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:31.160 cost 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.980 you're 00:21:33.980 --> 00:21:34.119 not 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:34.460 trying 00:21:34.460 --> 00:21:34.799 to get 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:34.960 your 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:35.460 reputation 00:21:35.460 --> 00:21:35.779 back 00:21:35.779 --> 00:21:36.259 by tearing 00:21:36.259 --> 00:21:36.559 down 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:36.759 their 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:37.400 reputation 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:38.619 true 00:21:38.619 --> 00:21:39.019 forgiveness 00:21:39.019 --> 00:21:39.920 always 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:40.960 requires 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:42.019 suffering 00:21:42.019 --> 00:21:43.079 there is 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:44.019 no sense 00:21:44.019 --> 00:21:44.920 of forgiveness 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:45.900 without 00:21:45.900 --> 00:21:47.160 suffering 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:50.960 debt 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:51.619 never just 00:21:51.619 --> 00:21:52.160 vanishes 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.900 either 00:21:53.900 --> 00:21:54.620 you pay 00:21:54.620 --> 00:21:55.240 either you 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:55.620 pay 00:21:55.620 --> 00:21:55.759 or they 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:56.180 pay 00:21:56.180 --> 00:21:58.120 it doesn't 00:21:58.120 --> 00:21:58.740 just vanish 00:21:58.740 --> 00:22:01.660 but here's the 00:22:01.660 --> 00:22:02.019 irony 00:22:02.019 --> 00:22:05.040 only if you 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:05.680 pay the 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:06.240 price of 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:06.720 forgiveness 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.560 only if you 00:22:08.560 --> 00:22:09.720 choose to 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:10.540 absorb 00:22:10.540 --> 00:22:11.400 the debt 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:13.580 only if you 00:22:13.580 --> 00:22:14.480 choose to 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:15.460 go the path 00:22:15.460 --> 00:22:16.480 of suffering 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:18.380 is there 00:22:18.380 --> 00:22:19.680 any chance 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:21.339 of wrong 00:22:21.339 --> 00:22:22.460 being put 00:22:22.460 --> 00:22:23.240 right 00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.740 it's the 00:22:25.740 --> 00:22:26.500 only way 00:22:26.500 --> 00:22:27.940 it's the 00:22:27.940 --> 00:22:28.620 only way 00:22:28.620 --> 00:22:29.839 of anything 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:31.039 being resolved 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:35.500 only when 00:22:35.500 --> 00:22:35.920 we have 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:36.659 refrained 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00:22:55.579 --> 00:22:56.039 listen 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:57.440 the forgiveness 00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:58.039 in our 00:22:58.039 --> 00:22:58.420 heart 00:22:58.420 --> 00:22:59.159 means 00:22:59.159 --> 00:23:00.279 that the 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:00.899 cycle 00:23:00.899 --> 00:23:01.659 of further 00:23:01.659 --> 00:23:02.519 reprisals 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:03.240 is finally 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:03.700 broken 00:23:03.700 --> 00:23:07.859 and so 00:23:07.859 --> 00:23:08.180 it 00:23:08.180 --> 00:23:09.079 should come 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:09.799 as no 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:10.440 surprise 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:11.180 whatsoever 00:23:11.180 --> 00:23:13.359 that God 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:13.940 would say 00:23:13.940 --> 00:23:15.279 the only 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:16.299 way I can 00:23:16.299 --> 00:23:16.940 forgive the 00:23:16.940 --> 00:23:18.000 sins of 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:18.619 the human 00:23:18.619 --> 00:23:19.240 race 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:20.579 is 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--> 00:24:48.420 with his 00:24:48.420 --> 00:24:49.000 disciples 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:49.700 and said 00:24:49.700 --> 00:24:50.200 whoever 00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:50.819 wants to 00:24:50.819 --> 00:24:51.220 be my 00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:51.720 disciple 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:52.119 must 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:52.460 deny 00:24:52.460 --> 00:24:52.980 themselves 00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:53.819 take up 00:24:53.819 --> 00:24:54.400 their cross 00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:54.940 and follow 00:24:54.940 --> 00:24:55.319 me 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:56.220 whoever 00:24:56.220 --> 00:24:56.900 wants to 00:24:56.900 --> 00:24:57.420 save 00:24:57.420 --> 00:24:58.019 their life 00:24:58.019 --> 00:24:58.519 will lose 00:24:58.519 --> 00:24:58.759 it 00:24:58.759 --> 00:24:59.839 but 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:00.099 whoever 00:25:00.099 --> 00:25:00.700 wants to 00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:01.259 whoever 00:25:01.259 --> 00:25:01.879 loses 00:25:01.879 --> 00:25:02.799 their life 00:25:02.799 --> 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to 00:31:41.399 --> 00:31:41.919 our 00:31:41.919 --> 00:31:42.659 end 00:31:42.660 --> 00:32:01.040 king 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.519 and 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:05.400 he 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:05.720 go 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:06.000 to 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.059 with a, you know, I'll obey you, Jesus, and follow you, Jesus, F. 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.460 We're actually not seeing him as the king to end all kings. 00:32:13.539 --> 00:32:18.960 We're not seeing him for what Peter saw him was in that moment as the Messiah. 00:32:20.779 --> 00:32:24.220 We need to see this king as the king on the cross. 00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:29.079 And if he was simply a king on a throne, 00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:34.779 it's quite possible that we would obey him because we have to obey him. 00:32:34.779 --> 00:32:37.220 If we just see him as a king on a throne, 00:32:37.399 --> 00:32:41.259 at that point he becomes the divine ogre and we just have to obey him. 00:32:41.399 --> 00:32:43.500 And that's called legalism. 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.079 External physical constraints of my life, but not a heart that worships God. 00:32:53.539 --> 00:32:56.139 He is the king who went to the cross for us, 00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.019 and therefore we can submit to him out of love and trust. 00:33:00.740 --> 00:33:02.920 He is good and he is merciful. 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.259 And instead of negotiating, we just simply say, 00:33:07.420 --> 00:33:10.900 Lord, whatever you ask, I will do. 00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:16.240 And whatever you send, I will accept. 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.180 Whatever you ask, I will do. 00:33:23.820 --> 00:33:27.640 And whatever you send, I will accept. 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:34.500 If he has utterly given himself to us, 00:33:35.280 --> 00:33:38.620 how can we not give ourselves utterly to him? 00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:45.380 Taking up our cross means dying to self-determination. 00:33:46.560 --> 00:33:49.900 It means dying to self-control over our lives, 00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:52.220 dying to using him for our own agenda 00:33:52.220 --> 00:33:55.720 so that he might meet our needs. 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.759 So in closing, I've got a quote here from C.S. Lewis 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.299 from his book, Mere Christianity. 00:34:04.660 --> 00:34:09.260 In fact, these are the very last words of his book, Mere Christianity. 00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:13.179 His final conclusion of what it means to follow this king. 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:16.220 Lewis writes, 00:34:16.219 --> 00:34:46.219 00:34:46.219 --> 00:35:03.619 Let's pray. 00:35:03.619 --> 00:35:07.099 As the music team come up, 00:35:07.319 --> 00:35:10.480 we are going to sing in such a way, 00:35:12.339 --> 00:35:14.679 sing a prayer of committal and confession, 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:15.420 in fact, 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.500 as we seek to surrender all to Christ. 00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:19.699 Gracious Father, 00:35:19.779 --> 00:35:21.219 we thank you for your word 00:35:21.219 --> 00:35:22.980 and your word is hard. 00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:25.920 And yet, Lord, 00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.480 it is life-shaping. 00:35:29.659 --> 00:35:31.179 The paradox of, 00:35:32.099 --> 00:35:35.579 it's just astounding to surrender our life 00:35:35.579 --> 00:35:36.719 and yet to gain it, 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:37.219 to give it, 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:38.260 and yet to win. 00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:40.699 Lord, how is it possible 00:35:40.699 --> 00:35:44.280 that the ones who are the losers 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.719 are the ones who win forever? 00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.760 Turn our values on their head. 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.720 Help us to see with clarity 00:35:53.720 --> 00:35:57.120 the cultural assumptions that we work with 00:35:57.120 --> 00:35:59.240 that we just assume are just normal. 00:36:00.900 --> 00:36:03.440 Help us to see that you have come 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:04.840 and you have not called us 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.320 just to refine a little bit 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.260 of our way of life, 00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:10.140 but to totally overturn it. 00:36:11.700 --> 00:36:12.800 Father, help us to see 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.660 that you are not just a king on a throne, 00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:17.280 but that you're the king on the throne 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:18.540 that went via the cross, 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:20.560 that you love us, 00:36:21.040 --> 00:36:22.940 that you gave everything for us, 00:36:23.520 --> 00:36:25.480 and help us to give everything to you. 00:36:26.040 --> 00:36:26.380 Amen.