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 Amen.

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 So this is the last session of the sovereignty of God.

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 And so we're going to have half term next week.

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 And then we'll be starting a new series.

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! It's going to be a one-off.

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 And then Sam Tannercliffe is going to be doing a series on history for you.

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 So I'll keep an eye out on your emails.

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 I'll send out a little video on that.

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 But this is our last session on the sovereignty of God.

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 And we've been thinking this term.

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 We've seen this term that God is sovereign over all things.

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 Every detail of the universe, he's sovereign over.

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 And by sovereign, we mean God's kingly rule and power and control and authority and plan over all things.

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 God is sovereign over all things because he has decreed it all from eternity.

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 He's already said what's going to come to pass.

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 And so we've been looking at the confession.

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 Remember, if Sunday school is like a zoo, we're gathering all the data into one place, all the data of the Bible into one place like a zoo, all the animals together.

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 And the confession is like our map, our guide around the zoo.

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 And so look at 3.1 of the confession.

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 God from all eternity did by the most wise and holy counsel of his own world freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass.

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 Everything.

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 And last week, we thought about that lingering question in all of this.

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 What about free will?

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 If God is sovereign in this way, doesn't that make us robots or puppets on a string?

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 And if so, doesn't that make us not responsible for sin?

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 If God decreed it, we might say, well, God surely made me do it then.

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 Well, we saw last week, we often wrongly assume what type of free will we have.

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 We wrongly assume we have what we call absolute free will.

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 Freedom just to do whatever we want.

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 Every option is equally possible.

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 But actually, as we thought last week, we aren't free in all sorts of ways.

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 So do you remember?

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 We aren't.

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 So if all options in life are like doors, right?

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 You've got infinite doors in front of us.

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 All those, not all those doors are open to us, right?

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 I'm not free to fly like Superman.

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 I'm not free just to be perfectly sinless right now.

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 I don't, I can't choose that option.

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 And we also saw Jesus wasn't free to walk away from the cross, right?

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 That wasn't a possibility in the plan of God.

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 And so there are all sorts of things that we aren't free to do.

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 So just to assume, oh, but we have free will.

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 We can do everything.

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 Everything should be possible.

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 That isn't the freedom that we have.

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 And importantly, we aren't free to choose something outside the sovereign will of God.

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 So if we can see, if we can't fly, we can't be sinners,

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 but we also need to just recognize other limitations.

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 We aren't free to act outside of God's will.

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 And the Bible shows us our decisions and our choices,

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 and even our hearts are ultimately under God's sovereignty.

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 Yet, at the same time, the Bible affirms that we do have choices.

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 And our choices really do belong to us.

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 It is our will, our hearts, our choices.

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 And when you hear that, it kind of, it jars you, doesn't it, right?

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 But hold on, how can that be?

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 And that's the mystery to all of this.

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 These are simply two truths that we hold together.

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 We don't know exactly how they can fit.

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 It's beyond our finite minds.

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 But God is sovereign over our wills and our decisions.

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 Yet, at the same time, they do belong to us.

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 They are real in that sense.

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 We do have real wills and choices.

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 And again, the confession holds these two together.

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 God, from all eternity, did by the most wise and counsel of his own will,

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 freely and unchangeably ordained whatsoever comes to pass.

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 Yet, so as thereby, neither is God the author of sin,

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 nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures, right?

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 It doesn't destroy our will.

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 Nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away,

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 but rather established.

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 Now, this last phrase we're going to look at in a moment.

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 So, it is simply both, right?

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 And this is the mystery.

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 And it's not always easy to sit with.

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 This is something you can puzzle over your whole life.

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 But it's just something that we need to humbly hold together.

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 And rather than let our minds say,

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 no, no, no, hold on.

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 I don't like that.

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 Those things can't fit together.

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 That can't be the case.

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 Rather than that, we need to let the Bible tell us what is true

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 and what is reality.

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 And then when we don't understand some of those things,

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 to humbly accept, okay, this must be true.

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 And so, I will trust God and accept it.

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 And in fact, rather than God being a puppeteer controlling us like puppets,

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 actually, we ended last week seeing that God's sovereignty actually establishes our free will.

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 It is only because God has sovereignly decreed all of this

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 and created all of this and is upholding everything.

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 It's only because of that that we are able to have any freedom at all.

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 So, God's sovereignty, you can kind of think of it like this.

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 It's not, he's not like a puppeteer from above moving us with invisible strings.

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 It's not so much that.

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 It's more like, God's sovereignty is more like the ground beneath which,

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 on which we can have any choice at all, right?

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 But we left off last week thinking about what the Bible does speak about our wills.

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 So, if that's kind of not how to think about it and kind of generally the right way to think about it.

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 Okay, but what does the Bible say, positively say about our wills?

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 What does it say about the freedom that we do have?

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 And we left off last week, didn't have enough time to finish this,

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 but we saw that it doesn't speak of us having free will, absolute free will in that sense.

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 It speaks of our wills as choosing what our hearts want, right?

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 Our wills mean that we choose what our hearts want.

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 And there are four states of our hearts that we can choose from, right?

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 And this is the first thing I want us to see today.

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 We're kind of finishing off a bit from last week,

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 and then we'll move on to something a little bit different in the second half, right?

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 I want us to look at the four states of our hearts.

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 So, the Bible speaks of our wills.

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 I want us to see how the Bible speaks about our wills, our decision-making,

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 and how the Bible speaks about true freedom.

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 And to do this, I want you to break out into groups.

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 There's a little, in the dotted box, there are five questions.

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 So, break out into groups.

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 I'll give you a few minutes for that.

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 We're going to look at the four states of our heart,

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 the four types of decision-making the Bible speaks about.

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 Let's see what we have.

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 So, the first question, how does the Bible speak of how we make our choices?

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 Daily worry.

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 Daily worry.

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 Yeah, yeah, the first one.

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 How does the Bible speak of how we make choices?

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 Like, the very top question.

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 It comes in, it comes out, and it's different.

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 When the heart comes out, it's our action.

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 Oh, okay, yes.

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 Yeah, yeah, do you see that?

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 We make our choices from our hearts, right?

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 So, the choices ahead of us,

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 they're not determined just by kind of random choice,

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 or that we can just equally choose among all the options of the doors.

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 No, we make our choices from our hearts, right?

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 This is how the Bible speaks of free will.

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 We are free in the sense that we do what our hearts want.

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 This is how the Bible speaks of freedom.

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 And this is also why we are responsible for our choices.

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 When I choose to do something, I choose to do it.

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 So, when I choose to do something, in my heart, I want to do it.

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 Therefore, I was free to do it, in that sense.

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 I'm responsible for it.

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 And when the Bible speaks of this freedom,

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 it particularly speaks of our freedom to sin or not sin, right?

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 Or obey God, right?

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 And as soon as you start thinking in those categories,

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 we need to understand that there are four states of the heart

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 that we need to consider when humans choose to sin or not sin, right?

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 Four types of freedom, you could say.

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 And with that in mind, let's think of those next four questions.

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 When it comes to sinning, what was Adam's heart able to do?

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 Let's start at the beginning, the first human heart.

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 What was Adam's heart able to do?

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 Genesis 2.

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 Rebecca.

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 Okay, he was able.

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 He had the choice, the freedom.

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 He was able to sin.

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 What was he also able to do?

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 To not sin, right?

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 There was the choice between him.

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 You can eat or you can not eat, right?

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 And his heart, when you think about his heart,

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 his heart was able to choose either, right?

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 He hadn't fallen yet.

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 He wasn't pulling towards sin.

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 He could have chosen, in terms of his heart,

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 he could have chosen either, right?

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 He was able to sin and able to not sin.

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 And so we're not thinking about God's decree here.

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 We, of course, know God planned all things.

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 And so in some sense, in terms of the decree of God,

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 he was always going to eat the apple.

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 But in terms of his heart, that freedom,

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 he could have done either.

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 And this is the first state,

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 the first way you can understand the human heart.

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 So if we have the choice of sin here,

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 or not sin,

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 or obedience, or righteousness, right?

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 The first state,

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 to think back, is Adam.

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 And he had the freedom to not sin,

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 and the freedom to sin.

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 That's a little heart there, by the way,

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 if you don't know what that is, right?

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 His heart could have gone either way.

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 But now let's think about the second state of humanity.

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 Before we are saved,

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 so that now Adam has fallen,

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 and we have fallen in him.

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 Before we are saved,

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 what are our hearts able to do?

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 Noah, go for it.

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 Sorry?

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 Commit sin, right?

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 We're slaves to sin, exactly.

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 We can't help but sin.

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 That's what our hearts want.

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 Our hearts and our wills just naturally want to sin.

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 And in that sense,

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 we aren't free.

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 We're enslaved, right?

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 Because that's all we can do.

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 But in another sense,

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 we do still have free will, remember?

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 Think about,

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 if free will is doing what our hearts want,

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 we are free to sin, right?

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 Because we want to.

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 We freely choose to sin

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 because that's what our hearts want.

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 But we aren't free not to sin, right?

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 We're enslaved in that way.

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 And that's why God must sovereignly save us.

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 Remember, we're dead in sin,

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 but we're trapped in it.

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 And so,

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 this is the second way to understand it.

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 I've drawn that one too small.

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 That's not good.

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 All right.

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 Still a bigger person here.

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 All right.

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 So in sin,

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 we are,

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 sorry,

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 this way.

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 we are only

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 choosing to sin.

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 That's where our freedom takes us.

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 But now let's think about the third state.

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 When God saves us,

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 what are our hearts able to do?

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 Look at Romans 6.

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 John.

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 Not sin and produce righteousness.

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 Okay.

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 We've got a third one.

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 We are now,

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 because that's what the command in Romans 6,

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 do not present your members to unrighteousness,

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 but to righteousness.

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 All right.

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 So we are able to not sin.

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 But also,

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 what does that commandment assume as well?

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 What are we also able to do?

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 Also able to sin.

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 Okay.

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 But this,

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 this is huge.

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 Something changes when God saves us.

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 Sin's power over our hearts gets broken.

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 We're no longer slaves to sin,

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 only going in one direction.

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 But now,

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 we are free not to sin.

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 Right?

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 We can actually start obeying God

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 and living righteous lives.

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 Now,

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 we will still sin.

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 We will still kind of choose that,

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 have that desire in our heart.

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 But now there's a pull in both directions.

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 God has transformed our hearts.

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 So,

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 we now want to love God.

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 You can even feel that in your heart now.

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 Right?

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 That,

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 that,

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 even smallest,

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 struggling desire,

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 but even the smallest one to love God,

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 that is you transformed,

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 raised from the dead by God.

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 We are now free to not sin.

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 All right.

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 So we've got a pull in both directions.

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 But now let's think about glory

00:14:37.280 --> 00:14:38.880
 in the new creation,

00:14:39.060 --> 00:14:39.700
 in the resurrection.

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 What will our hearts be able to do?

00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:43.719
 Rory Hunter,

00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:44.279
 you're looking at me.

00:14:45.199 --> 00:14:47.519
 They're not able to sin.

00:14:47.779 --> 00:14:48.059
 Oh,

00:14:48.239 --> 00:14:49.059
 very good.

00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:49.379
 Right?

00:14:49.979 --> 00:14:50.899
 In glory,

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 sin will be an impossibility.

00:14:53.839 --> 00:14:54.019
 Right?

00:14:54.779 --> 00:14:56.199
 We will not be able to sin.

00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:57.939
 There's nothing unclean.

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 Do you see in Revelation 21?

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 Nothing unclean.

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 Not even

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 the smallest desire in our heart.

00:15:04.099 --> 00:15:04.279
 Right?

00:15:04.859 --> 00:15:06.819
 We will only be able

00:15:06.819 --> 00:15:08.500
 to not sin.

00:15:10.059 --> 00:15:10.219
 Right?

00:15:10.220 --> 00:15:12.200
 That pull in our hearts

00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:13.379
 towards sin

00:15:13.379 --> 00:15:14.800
 will be gone.

00:15:14.940 --> 00:15:15.920
 Our wills will be

00:15:15.920 --> 00:15:17.500
 totally released

00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:18.160
 to love God.

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 And in that sense,

00:15:20.379 --> 00:15:21.120
 if you think about that,

00:15:21.180 --> 00:15:22.100
 in that sense,

00:15:22.779 --> 00:15:24.160
 we will be the free,

00:15:24.420 --> 00:15:25.320
 the most free

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 that we could possibly be.

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 The most human

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 we could possibly be.

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 Sin will be no more

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 and we'll be

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 freely,

00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:35.960
 truly free

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 to be who we are meant to be.

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 who God designed humanity

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 to be.

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 And this is the fourth state

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 of human freedom.

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 And this is how

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 the Bible gets us

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 to think about

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 free will and freedom.

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 We are all free

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 in the sense that

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 we do what our hearts want.

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 but it's in this

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 final state here

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 in glory

00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.199
 that we are most free

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 because our will

00:16:07.319 --> 00:16:08.159
 and our heart

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 will not be bound

00:16:09.199 --> 00:16:10.120
 by sin anymore.

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 And so when people think,

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 no, no, no,

00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:13.039
 hold on,

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 to be truly free,

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 we must be able

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 to choose

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 all the options

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 out there,

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 open up all the doors

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 equally

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 to sin

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 or not to sin

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 or to do anything.

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 I must be able

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 to choose

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 or not choose

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 all those things

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 then I'm free.

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 Well if we think

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 like that

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 we've just got

00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.000
 freedom all wrong.

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 True freedom

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 is actually

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 not being able

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 to do something,

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 not being able

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 to sin.

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 And that is what

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 God has saved us for.

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 That's our destiny

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 and God's sovereignty

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 doesn't destroy

00:16:47.139 --> 00:16:48.000
 that freedom.

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 In fact,

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 God's sovereignty

00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:52.279
 is our only hope

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 of having that freedom.

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 Because it's in

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 God's sovereignty

00:16:56.299 --> 00:16:57.599
 that he raises us

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 from the deadness

00:16:58.199 --> 00:16:58.819
 of our sin,

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 releases us

00:17:00.239 --> 00:17:01.459
 from the slavery

00:17:01.459 --> 00:17:01.979
 of sin,

00:17:02.379 --> 00:17:03.659
 transforms our hearts,

00:17:03.899 --> 00:17:05.200
 frees us from that guilt

00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:06.639
 and that power of sin

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 and makes us

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 truly free

00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:09.879
 in Christ.

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 And so

00:17:11.700 --> 00:17:13.639
 all those in Christ

00:17:13.639 --> 00:17:14.079
 here today,

00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:15.779
 we are free now.

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 Christ has freed us

00:17:17.819 --> 00:17:18.519
 from the slavery of sin.

00:17:18.740 --> 00:17:19.659
 We can now

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 not sin

00:17:20.419 --> 00:17:21.419
 and love God.

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 but one day

00:17:24.259 --> 00:17:25.539
 our hearts

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 are going to be

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 truly free forever.

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 And so it's this

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 final state

00:17:30.380 --> 00:17:31.779
 that this is how

00:17:31.779 --> 00:17:32.400
 the Bible speaks

00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:33.400
 of true freedom.

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 We're going to move

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 on to something

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 a little bit different

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 now because this was

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 meant to be on the

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 tail end of last week.

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 But let me pause

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 for questions there.

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 Any questions on this?

00:17:43.980 --> 00:17:50.120
 Yeah.

00:17:50.120 --> 00:17:50.220
 Yeah.

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 Two questions.

00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:51.980
 Yeah.

00:17:51.980 --> 00:17:53.339
 One of the characters

00:17:53.339 --> 00:17:54.279
 is saying that

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 if we understand

00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:56.240
 freedom is just

00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:57.640
 having any choice

00:17:57.640 --> 00:17:58.019
 we want,

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 that's not the right

00:17:58.900 --> 00:17:59.339
 definition,

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 but rather it's

00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:02.299
 freedom from control

00:18:02.299 --> 00:18:03.539
 and that's

00:18:03.539 --> 00:18:04.360
 in this diagram

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 where we're

00:18:05.579 --> 00:18:06.420
 being set free

00:18:06.420 --> 00:18:07.740
 from the control

00:18:07.740 --> 00:18:08.200
 of sin

00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:09.120
 to the point

00:18:09.120 --> 00:18:10.480
 where there is

00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:11.160
 no control

00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:11.599
 over us

00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:12.319
 apart from our

00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:12.920
 feelings of the

00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:14.980
 God's mind

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 that's

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 that way.

00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:16.640
 Yeah.

00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:18.920
 Yes.

00:18:19.300 --> 00:18:19.460
 Yeah.

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 So there are

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 lots of ways

00:18:25.580 --> 00:18:26.200
 to understand

00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:26.960
 freedom, right?

00:18:27.060 --> 00:18:27.940
 So first of all,

00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:28.519
 we're not saying

00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:29.440
 absolute freedom

00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:29.880
 to choose

00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:30.779
 absolutely anything,

00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:31.100
 right?

00:18:31.140 --> 00:18:31.759
 So it's not that.

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 But in one sense,

00:18:33.820 --> 00:18:35.060
 even in the

00:18:35.060 --> 00:18:36.160
 slavery of sin,

00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:37.480
 we're free

00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:38.180
 in the sense

00:18:38.180 --> 00:18:39.200
 of we do

00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:39.800
 what our hearts

00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:40.080
 want.

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 So if we define

00:18:41.120 --> 00:18:42.660
 freedom as

00:18:42.660 --> 00:18:43.200
 doing what

00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:43.580
 our hearts

00:18:43.580 --> 00:18:44.120
 want,

00:18:44.320 --> 00:18:45.259
 we're free

00:18:45.259 --> 00:18:45.640
 in that sense.

00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:46.519
 We freely

00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:47.540
 choose to sin

00:18:47.540 --> 00:18:49.420
 before we're

00:18:49.420 --> 00:18:49.800
 saved, right?

00:18:50.140 --> 00:18:51.580
 We love it.

00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:52.519
 We want to do it.

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 So in that sense,

00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:53.940
 we're free.

00:18:54.779 --> 00:18:55.380
 If you kind of

00:18:55.380 --> 00:18:56.120
 zoom out a little

00:18:56.120 --> 00:18:56.480
 bit,

00:18:56.840 --> 00:18:57.720
 we realise

00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:59.220
 actually

00:18:59.220 --> 00:19:00.420
 that that's

00:19:00.420 --> 00:19:01.259
 not true

00:19:01.259 --> 00:19:01.740
 freedom.

00:19:02.560 --> 00:19:03.080
 That's,

00:19:03.300 --> 00:19:03.420
 yeah,

00:19:03.500 --> 00:19:04.019
 we are,

00:19:04.120 --> 00:19:04.820
 we're trapped

00:19:04.820 --> 00:19:05.580
 in that

00:19:05.580 --> 00:19:07.360
 wanting to sin.

00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:08.799
 and so

00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:09.579
 there is a

00:19:09.579 --> 00:19:10.779
 different way

00:19:10.779 --> 00:19:11.219
 we can now

00:19:11.219 --> 00:19:11.619
 think about

00:19:11.619 --> 00:19:11.939
 freedom.

00:19:12.179 --> 00:19:12.839
 It's being

00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:13.679
 released from

00:19:13.679 --> 00:19:14.819
 that pull

00:19:14.819 --> 00:19:15.619
 and power

00:19:15.619 --> 00:19:16.159
 of sin

00:19:16.159 --> 00:19:17.479
 to actually

00:19:17.479 --> 00:19:18.519
 now be free

00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:19.139
 to love

00:19:19.139 --> 00:19:19.500
 God.

00:19:19.939 --> 00:19:20.559
 So I know

00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:21.000
 I'm kind of

00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:21.519
 swapping

00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:22.379
 definitions a

00:19:22.379 --> 00:19:22.699
 little bit

00:19:22.699 --> 00:19:23.159
 as we go

00:19:23.159 --> 00:19:23.719
 over this.

00:19:24.179 --> 00:19:24.639
 It's because

00:19:24.639 --> 00:19:25.919
 it's kind of

00:19:25.919 --> 00:19:26.559
 speaking in

00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:26.959
 freedom in

00:19:26.959 --> 00:19:27.539
 different ways.

00:19:27.740 --> 00:19:27.859
 Yeah.

00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:29.059
 I don't know

00:19:29.059 --> 00:19:29.579
 if that clarified.

00:19:29.579 --> 00:19:30.220
 Yeah.

00:19:30.379 --> 00:19:30.939
 My second

00:19:30.939 --> 00:19:31.480
 question was

00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:32.500
 about state

00:19:32.500 --> 00:19:32.839
 one,

00:19:33.179 --> 00:19:33.559
 the idea

00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:34.000
 that Adam

00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:34.480
 is free

00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:34.919
 to choose

00:19:34.919 --> 00:19:35.339
 either.

00:19:35.619 --> 00:19:35.799
 Yeah.

00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:36.779
 But then we

00:19:36.779 --> 00:19:37.439
 know that

00:19:37.439 --> 00:19:40.720
 for always

00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:41.240
 were days

00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:41.659
 before.

00:19:42.919 --> 00:19:43.759
 So in

00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:44.240
 what sense

00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:45.000
 then was

00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:45.500
 he actually

00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:46.240
 free to

00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:46.460
 choose?

00:19:46.980 --> 00:19:47.679
 In what

00:19:47.679 --> 00:19:48.199
 sense exactly?

00:19:48.379 --> 00:19:49.740
 So remember

00:19:49.740 --> 00:19:50.559
 I keep kind

00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:51.199
 of like swapping

00:19:51.199 --> 00:19:52.059
 between definitions

00:19:52.059 --> 00:19:53.539
 or needing

00:19:53.539 --> 00:19:54.159
 to address,

00:19:54.259 --> 00:19:54.559
 maybe not

00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:55.000
 swapping,

00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:55.500
 needing to

00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:56.079
 address all

00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:56.919
 these different

00:19:56.919 --> 00:19:57.319
 types of

00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:57.679
 definitions,

00:19:57.819 --> 00:19:57.980
 right?

00:19:58.500 --> 00:19:59.159
 He's free

00:19:59.160 --> 00:19:59.540
 in what

00:19:59.540 --> 00:20:00.080
 your questions,

00:20:00.220 --> 00:20:00.620
 in what

00:20:00.620 --> 00:20:01.180
 sense is

00:20:01.180 --> 00:20:01.480
 he free?

00:20:01.820 --> 00:20:02.519
 He's free

00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:03.180
 in the sense

00:20:03.180 --> 00:20:04.019
 of his

00:20:04.019 --> 00:20:04.680
 heart.

00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:05.060
 Okay.

00:20:05.080 --> 00:20:05.380
 Remember

00:20:05.380 --> 00:20:06.560
 when we

00:20:06.560 --> 00:20:06.900
 think about

00:20:06.900 --> 00:20:07.380
 freedom of

00:20:07.380 --> 00:20:07.700
 the heart,

00:20:07.779 --> 00:20:07.980
 so you've

00:20:07.980 --> 00:20:08.120
 got,

00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:09.660
 that's the

00:20:09.660 --> 00:20:10.220
 middle one

00:20:10.220 --> 00:20:10.519
 I kind of

00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:10.860
 point out

00:20:10.860 --> 00:20:11.019
 here,

00:20:11.120 --> 00:20:11.279
 right?

00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:12.160
 We are

00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:12.740
 free to

00:20:12.740 --> 00:20:13.060
 do what

00:20:13.060 --> 00:20:13.440
 our heart

00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:14.040
 wants.

00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:14.620
 Okay.

00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:15.519
 If we

00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:15.880
 understand

00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:16.300
 free will

00:20:16.300 --> 00:20:16.660
 in that

00:20:16.660 --> 00:20:17.120
 sense,

00:20:17.860 --> 00:20:18.180
 when we

00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:18.400
 look at

00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:18.660
 Adam's

00:20:18.660 --> 00:20:18.880
 heart,

00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:19.300
 he hadn't

00:20:19.300 --> 00:20:19.980
 fallen yet.

00:20:20.140 --> 00:20:20.400
 He was

00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:20.900
 still in

00:20:20.900 --> 00:20:21.380
 an innocent

00:20:21.380 --> 00:20:21.980
 state.

00:20:22.620 --> 00:20:23.300
 He was

00:20:23.300 --> 00:20:23.920
 free to

00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:24.820
 not sin

00:20:24.820 --> 00:20:25.920
 and also

00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:26.380
 to sin

00:20:26.380 --> 00:20:26.779
 as we

00:20:26.779 --> 00:20:27.560
 found out,

00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:27.840
 right?

00:20:28.300 --> 00:20:29.080
 It was,

00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:29.860
 kind of

00:20:29.860 --> 00:20:30.560
 physically

00:20:30.560 --> 00:20:32.340
 heart-wise

00:20:32.340 --> 00:20:33.240
 possible to

00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:33.740
 do both.

00:20:34.600 --> 00:20:35.019
 But now

00:20:35.019 --> 00:20:35.460
 you ask,

00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:36.500
 but in

00:20:36.500 --> 00:20:36.860
 terms of

00:20:36.860 --> 00:20:37.279
 God's

00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:37.840
 decree,

00:20:38.080 --> 00:20:38.440
 actually let's

00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:38.759
 kind of

00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:39.200
 go back

00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:39.440
 this way,

00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:39.740
 in terms

00:20:39.740 --> 00:20:40.120
 of God's

00:20:40.120 --> 00:20:40.680
 decree,

00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:43.560
 you couldn't

00:20:43.560 --> 00:20:43.800
 have,

00:20:43.900 --> 00:20:44.000
 right?

00:20:44.040 --> 00:20:44.420
 God had

00:20:44.420 --> 00:20:45.100
 decreed the

00:20:45.100 --> 00:20:45.340
 fall.

00:20:46.120 --> 00:20:46.300
 Yes,

00:20:46.340 --> 00:20:46.640
 but now

00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:47.140
 we're changing

00:20:47.140 --> 00:20:47.900
 a different,

00:20:48.140 --> 00:20:48.759
 we're now

00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:49.420
 speaking of

00:20:49.420 --> 00:20:49.759
 freedom in

00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:50.220
 a different

00:20:50.220 --> 00:20:50.720
 sense,

00:20:50.940 --> 00:20:51.140
 right?

00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:52.100
 So,

00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:52.560
 yeah,

00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:53.200
 ultimately

00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:54.640
 nothing can

00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:55.360
 happen outside

00:20:55.360 --> 00:20:55.920
 of God's

00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:56.220
 will,

00:20:56.900 --> 00:20:58.740
 but in

00:20:58.740 --> 00:20:59.200
 terms of

00:20:59.200 --> 00:20:59.740
 in time,

00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:00.180
 in creation,

00:21:00.299 --> 00:21:00.839
 as we look

00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:01.180
 at Adam's

00:21:01.180 --> 00:21:01.319
 heart,

00:21:01.420 --> 00:21:01.859
 he was

00:21:01.859 --> 00:21:02.339
 free to

00:21:02.339 --> 00:21:02.559
 choose

00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:02.819
 either.

00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:03.759
 Now,

00:21:05.339 --> 00:21:06.240
 we're trying

00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:06.500
 to hold

00:21:06.500 --> 00:21:06.839
 these two

00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:07.500
 together at

00:21:07.500 --> 00:21:07.759
 the same

00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:08.059
 time,

00:21:08.120 --> 00:21:08.380
 aren't we?

00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:08.700
 We're trying

00:21:08.700 --> 00:21:09.000
 to hold

00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:09.400
 the two

00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:09.839
 definitions

00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:10.259
 and like

00:21:10.259 --> 00:21:10.940
 in time,

00:21:11.259 --> 00:21:11.799
 in eternity,

00:21:11.940 --> 00:21:12.160
 hold them

00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:12.380
 together.

00:21:13.579 --> 00:21:14.200
 How can

00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:14.700
 that be?

00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:15.140
 And I

00:21:15.140 --> 00:21:15.519
 know kind

00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:16.180
 of our

00:21:16.180 --> 00:21:16.700
 brains start

00:21:16.700 --> 00:21:16.980
 to kind

00:21:16.980 --> 00:21:17.180
 of,

00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:18.440
 the cogs

00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:18.839
 start to

00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:19.440
 crank here.

00:21:20.380 --> 00:21:20.920
 That's the

00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:21.839
 mystery.

00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:22.939
 And so

00:21:22.939 --> 00:21:23.879
 what I'm

00:21:23.879 --> 00:21:24.119
 trying to

00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:24.399
 do is

00:21:24.399 --> 00:21:25.319
 just speak

00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:26.699
 of freedom

00:21:26.699 --> 00:21:27.299
 in the way

00:21:27.299 --> 00:21:27.759
 that the

00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:28.339
 Bible speaks

00:21:28.339 --> 00:21:28.679
 of it.

00:21:29.259 --> 00:21:29.519
 And it

00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:29.759
 can,

00:21:29.939 --> 00:21:30.199
 yeah,

00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:30.799
 it can get

00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:31.279
 confusing when

00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:31.699
 we start

00:21:31.699 --> 00:21:31.919
 to use

00:21:31.919 --> 00:21:32.220
 different

00:21:32.220 --> 00:21:32.699
 definitions

00:21:32.699 --> 00:21:33.119
 and then

00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:33.799
 holding them

00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:34.159
 together.

00:21:34.419 --> 00:21:34.679
 Exactly.

00:21:36.819 --> 00:21:37.299
 Toby.

00:21:40.159 --> 00:21:40.679
 So,

00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:42.339
 before the

00:21:42.339 --> 00:21:42.559
 Paul,

00:21:42.639 --> 00:21:42.839
 there was

00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:43.699
 no sin.

00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:45.519
 So Adam

00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:46.220
 was not

00:21:46.220 --> 00:21:46.559
 a slave

00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:46.939
 in sin.

00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:47.579
 Correct,

00:21:47.740 --> 00:21:47.899
 yeah.

00:21:47.899 --> 00:21:47.980
 Yeah.

00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:55.879
 perfect.

00:21:56.399 --> 00:21:56.699
 Thanks.

00:21:56.859 --> 00:21:57.059
 Yeah,

00:21:57.059 --> 00:21:57.500
 yeah,

00:21:57.500 --> 00:21:57.819
 yeah,

00:21:57.819 --> 00:21:57.899
 yeah.

00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:00.199
 So he,

00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:01.720
 he,

00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.139
 he wasn't,

00:22:03.899 --> 00:22:04.699
 his heart,

00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:06.059
 how was his

00:22:06.059 --> 00:22:06.339
 heart,

00:22:06.459 --> 00:22:06.980
 how was he

00:22:06.980 --> 00:22:11.759
 free and how

00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:12.179
 was he

00:22:12.179 --> 00:22:13.319
 escaping?

00:22:15.199 --> 00:22:16.299
 Are you

00:22:16.299 --> 00:22:16.699
 asking,

00:22:17.859 --> 00:22:18.139
 okay,

00:22:18.259 --> 00:22:18.799
 if he,

00:22:18.899 --> 00:22:19.259
 if he

00:22:19.259 --> 00:22:19.679
 wasn't

00:22:19.679 --> 00:22:20.779
 fallen yet,

00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:21.259
 so he

00:22:21.259 --> 00:22:21.779
 didn't have

00:22:21.779 --> 00:22:22.220
 that pull

00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:22.819
 towards sin,

00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:23.460
 are you

00:22:23.460 --> 00:22:23.660
 asking,

00:22:23.779 --> 00:22:23.859
 well,

00:22:23.899 --> 00:22:24.240
 why did

00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:24.379
 he,

00:22:24.379 --> 00:22:24.639
 if it

00:22:24.639 --> 00:22:25.180
 didn't exist,

00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:25.759
 he couldn't

00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:26.099
 have had

00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:26.359
 a pull

00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:26.720
 first.

00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:26.960
 Yeah,

00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:27.460
 right,

00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:27.720
 yeah.

00:22:29.339 --> 00:22:30.319
 But are

00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:30.839
 you asking,

00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:32.399
 so then how

00:22:32.399 --> 00:22:32.920
 could he have

00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:33.500
 chosen it

00:22:33.500 --> 00:22:33.799
 then?

00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:34.319
 Yeah.

00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:34.759
 Yeah,

00:22:34.819 --> 00:22:35.000
 yeah.

00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:36.720
 Don't know.

00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:38.039
 Don't know.

00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:39.660
 We know it's

00:22:39.660 --> 00:22:40.279
 a possibility,

00:22:40.500 --> 00:22:41.460
 God laid it

00:22:41.460 --> 00:22:42.000
 out there,

00:22:42.779 --> 00:22:43.359
 but how

00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:43.839
 could an

00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:44.240
 innocent

00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:44.980
 heart

00:22:44.980 --> 00:22:46.740
 choose sin,

00:22:46.899 --> 00:22:47.220
 like a

00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:47.660
 corruption

00:22:47.660 --> 00:22:48.019
 that was

00:22:48.019 --> 00:22:48.639
 never there?

00:22:50.099 --> 00:22:50.359
 Yeah,

00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:51.039
 it's a good

00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:51.460
 question.

00:22:51.779 --> 00:22:52.519
 I don't

00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:52.779
 know.

00:22:53.180 --> 00:22:53.680
 And there's,

00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:54.639
 there's,

00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:55.599
 it's right to

00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:56.019
 ask the

00:22:56.019 --> 00:22:56.359
 question.

00:22:56.619 --> 00:22:57.240
 If you think

00:22:57.240 --> 00:22:57.579
 about the

00:22:57.579 --> 00:22:58.099
 nature of

00:22:58.099 --> 00:22:58.420
 sin,

00:22:59.339 --> 00:22:59.799
 so a

00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:00.119
 helpful way

00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:00.519
 of understanding

00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:01.299
 sin is,

00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:03.099
 sin is mad,

00:23:03.259 --> 00:23:03.559
 bad,

00:23:03.639 --> 00:23:04.220
 and sad,

00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:04.740
 right?

00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:06.180
 Or bad,

00:23:06.420 --> 00:23:06.700
 sad,

00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:07.160
 and mad,

00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:07.379
 right?

00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:08.220
 It's bad in the

00:23:08.220 --> 00:23:08.940
 sense of it's

00:23:08.940 --> 00:23:09.359
 wrong,

00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:10.700
 it's morally

00:23:10.700 --> 00:23:10.940
 wrong,

00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:11.279
 it breaks

00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:11.759
 God's law,

00:23:11.879 --> 00:23:12.460
 it's bad.

00:23:12.859 --> 00:23:13.680
 It's sad

00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:14.200
 because sin

00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:15.119
 causes misery,

00:23:15.539 --> 00:23:16.379
 it's just a

00:23:16.379 --> 00:23:17.180
 sad thing to

00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:17.960
 be in a stage

00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:18.180
 of sin,

00:23:18.180 --> 00:23:19.080
 and it's

00:23:19.080 --> 00:23:19.980
 mad as

00:23:19.980 --> 00:23:20.140
 well.

00:23:20.580 --> 00:23:21.299
 There's no

00:23:21.299 --> 00:23:22.240
 reason behind

00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:22.580
 it,

00:23:22.740 --> 00:23:22.920
 right?

00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.380
 Why would

00:23:24.380 --> 00:23:26.360
 I sin

00:23:26.360 --> 00:23:27.900
 this past

00:23:27.900 --> 00:23:28.960
 week when

00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:29.779
 my God has

00:23:29.779 --> 00:23:30.720
 saved me and

00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:31.400
 I love my

00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:32.320
 God and it's

00:23:32.320 --> 00:23:33.440
 just misery to

00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:34.220
 choose sin and

00:23:34.220 --> 00:23:34.880
 it just ruins

00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:35.380
 relationship?

00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:36.279
 Why would I

00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:37.220
 still do that?

00:23:37.940 --> 00:23:38.360
 Because it's

00:23:38.360 --> 00:23:38.880
 mad.

00:23:39.900 --> 00:23:40.759
 In some sense

00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:41.779
 you start peeling

00:23:41.779 --> 00:23:42.460
 back the layers

00:23:42.460 --> 00:23:43.160
 of sin and it

00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:43.840
 just keeps going

00:23:43.840 --> 00:23:44.000
 on.

00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.460
 there's almost

00:23:45.460 --> 00:23:47.619
 an infinite

00:23:47.619 --> 00:23:48.240
 reason,

00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:50.000
 a mad reason

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:50.700
 behind it.

00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:51.319
 It's just a

00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:52.079
 void of

00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.420
 darkness.

00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:55.079
 That's why

00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:55.599
 Jesus says

00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.039
 they hated

00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:56.460
 me without

00:23:56.460 --> 00:23:57.119
 a cause.

00:23:58.700 --> 00:23:59.099
 And so

00:23:59.099 --> 00:23:59.920
 you can kind

00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:00.539
 of apply

00:24:00.539 --> 00:24:01.799
 that with

00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:02.619
 also sprinkling

00:24:02.619 --> 00:24:03.220
 of mystery

00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:04.000
 to the

00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:04.359
 fall.

00:24:04.859 --> 00:24:05.440
 Why would

00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:05.819
 Adam,

00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:06.359
 when he had

00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:07.079
 all of this,

00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:07.539
 there was no

00:24:07.539 --> 00:24:08.000
 corruption,

00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:09.000
 he loved

00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:09.279
 God,

00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:09.779
 he communed

00:24:09.779 --> 00:24:10.160
 with God,

00:24:10.220 --> 00:24:10.660
 God walked

00:24:10.660 --> 00:24:11.000
 with him in

00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:11.460
 the garden,

00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:12.140
 he had

00:24:12.140 --> 00:24:12.579
 everything.

00:24:12.819 --> 00:24:13.279
 Why would

00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:13.759
 he choose

00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:14.039
 that?

00:24:14.639 --> 00:24:15.220
 It's mad.

00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:15.539
 Yeah.

00:24:17.059 --> 00:24:17.859
 And sprinkle

00:24:17.859 --> 00:24:18.299
 that with a

00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:18.599
 lot of

00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:18.980
 mystery.

00:24:19.819 --> 00:24:19.960
 Yeah.

00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:20.559
 Don't know

00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:20.799
 why.

00:24:21.700 --> 00:24:21.879
 Yeah.

00:24:22.639 --> 00:24:23.279
 Or don't

00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:23.779
 know how.

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:26.440
 Yeah.

00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:27.139
 Go for it.

00:24:28.099 --> 00:24:28.539
 So we

00:24:28.539 --> 00:24:28.839
 say there

00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:29.180
 is no

00:24:29.180 --> 00:24:30.399
 sin in

00:24:30.399 --> 00:24:31.139
 the

00:24:31.139 --> 00:24:31.420
 fall.

00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:33.779
 In

00:24:33.779 --> 00:24:34.139
 Adam's

00:24:34.139 --> 00:24:34.379
 heart,

00:24:34.500 --> 00:24:34.680
 yeah.

00:24:35.819 --> 00:24:36.039
 There'd

00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:37.460
 be no...

00:24:37.460 --> 00:24:37.859
 Go on.

00:24:37.859 --> 00:24:38.839
 So there

00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:40.099
 sin when

00:24:40.099 --> 00:24:40.440
 she

00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.819
 ran to

00:24:42.819 --> 00:24:42.980
 the

00:24:42.980 --> 00:24:43.240
 tree

00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:43.480
 of

00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:43.680
 the

00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:43.680
 of

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 tree

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 the

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 tree

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 tree

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 tree

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 tree

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 tree

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 of

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 of

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 tree

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00:25:12.980 --> 00:25:19.480
 There is no sin, but there is one restriction.

00:25:20.099 --> 00:25:20.339
 Yeah.

00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:27.279
 There is one comment that's just like, she's seen.

00:25:29.120 --> 00:25:32.980
 Yeah, so she did sin.

00:25:33.140 --> 00:25:35.099
 It's kind of taken, I guess, a whole event.

00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:37.440
 Yeah, she did sin.

00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:42.860
 But what's the issue?

00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:47.120
 You're saying she sinned before the fall that Adam caused.

00:25:47.980 --> 00:25:50.120
 And so how can those two fit together, are you saying?

00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.960
 Yeah, the sin was available.

00:25:54.819 --> 00:25:56.099
 The sin was available?

00:25:56.360 --> 00:25:56.680
 Yes.

00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:02.680
 I think I know what you're getting at.

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:03.740
 Let's chat afterwards.

00:26:04.019 --> 00:26:04.500
 Yeah.

00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:05.579
 Is that okay?

00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:07.140
 If you want to.

00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:07.559
 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.680
 Hands up if you want me to keep pursuing this question.

00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:12.579
 Great.

00:26:12.980 --> 00:26:13.880
 Do it afterwards.

00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:14.559
 Do it afterwards.

00:26:14.900 --> 00:26:16.299
 I want to also clarify.

00:26:18.299 --> 00:26:19.120
 Let's think about something.

00:26:19.220 --> 00:26:20.180
 This is going to be quite different.

00:26:20.380 --> 00:26:21.440
 Prayer and evangelism.

00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:21.880
 Right.

00:26:22.500 --> 00:26:24.180
 Oh, man, we've got five minutes to do this.

00:26:24.380 --> 00:26:24.480
 Right.

00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:24.980
 Right.

00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:24.980


00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:25.900
 Right.

00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.180
 We'll, we probably won't finish this.

00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:28.940
 Let's just go.

00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:35.099
 So another common issue we have, we might have in our minds is, okay, if God is sovereign,

00:26:35.940 --> 00:26:41.620
 if he has planned all things, all events and decreed all things and nothing can change his will,

00:26:41.619 --> 00:26:42.619
 why pray.

00:26:42.619 --> 00:26:43.039
 Why pray?

00:26:44.339 --> 00:26:52.500
 Why ask God to change these events we're going through or protect us in the future and ask him for anything, really?

00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.119
 And related to that question, well, why evangelize?

00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:56.479
 Right.

00:26:57.019 --> 00:27:04.619
 If God is the one who saves, if he has his elect and those names are written in the book of life and nothing can add to or change that number,

00:27:05.019 --> 00:27:08.839
 why bother preaching or evangelizing or showing the gospel?

00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:21.339
 Well, I want us to see, rather than being a problem to prayer and evangelism, I want us to see God's sovereignty is exactly what we need for prayer and evangelism.

00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:24.879
 But to answer this, we need to see something first.

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.679
 This might seem a bit odd, what we're doing here, but roll with me.

00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:28.980
 Hopefully it will click.

00:27:29.159 --> 00:27:29.259
 Right.

00:27:30.019 --> 00:27:32.259
 I want you to, I want us to see point A.

00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:37.659
 God uses second causes to achieve his eternal decree.

00:27:38.259 --> 00:27:38.399
 Right.

00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:40.579
 I know, I know this sounds a bit weird.

00:27:40.939 --> 00:27:41.519
 Roll with me.

00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:41.720
 Right.

00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.399
 Just look at what the confession has to say about this.

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 So God from all eternity did by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably ordained whatsoever comes to pass.

00:27:54.199 --> 00:28:06.359
 Yet so as thereby, neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures, nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.

00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.879
 So just look at that little phrase at the end.

00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:10.480
 There's two words.

00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:10.780
 There's two words.

00:28:10.780 --> 00:28:11.700
 Second causes.

00:28:11.700 --> 00:28:12.220
 All right.

00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:15.800
 There's lots of other words, but I'll try and simplify this.

00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:16.020
 Right.

00:28:17.300 --> 00:28:21.620
 In the confession, it says we can speak of two causes.

00:28:21.620 --> 00:28:22.300
 Right.

00:28:23.080 --> 00:28:26.400
 God is the first eternal cause.

00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:26.600
 Right.

00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:31.759
 He's the reason why anything happens and everything is dependent on him.

00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:32.199
 Right.

00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:34.980
 So we decree all things.

00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:37.959
 God is the first cause.

00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.840
 Okay.

00:28:41.840 --> 00:28:47.660
 But there are also second causes within creation.

00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:48.140
 Right.

00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.039
 Created things that also cause things to happen.

00:28:52.360 --> 00:28:55.200
 So like a cloud causing rain.

00:28:55.539 --> 00:28:55.759
 Right.

00:28:56.360 --> 00:28:59.200
 Or fire causing wood to burn.

00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.079
 Or bees causing pollination.

00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.700
 Or let's now think of human things.

00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:08.980
 Governments causing law and order in the land.

00:29:09.940 --> 00:29:12.100
 Kings causing wars.

00:29:13.420 --> 00:29:17.960
 And a part of that would be human choice is a second cause.

00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:18.200
 Right.

00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:26.400
 Like a human willfully choosing 30 pieces of silver causing a crucifixion.

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:27.840
 Okay.

00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.439
 So that's all you need to know just for now.

00:29:30.699 --> 00:29:32.079
 There are first causes.

00:29:32.740 --> 00:29:35.439
 There is the first cause of God eternally.

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:38.559
 And then lots of second causes in time.

00:29:38.899 --> 00:29:38.980
 Right.

00:29:39.819 --> 00:29:48.259
 And the confession is saying God's first sovereign cause of his decree and his providence and his predestining all things and governing all things.

00:29:48.959 --> 00:29:53.480
 It is saying that doesn't destroy the second causes.

00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:54.159
 Right.

00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:55.759
 Second causes down here.

00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:56.179
 Right.

00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:57.539
 Second causes.

00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:03.019
 It doesn't destroy those things but rather establishes them.

00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:03.619
 Right.

00:30:03.959 --> 00:30:10.059
 That is to say that these second causes of fire and clouds and governments and kings.

00:30:10.179 --> 00:30:10.359
 Right.

00:30:10.919 --> 00:30:13.679
 These second causes are real.

00:30:13.899 --> 00:30:15.039
 But they're not an illusion.

00:30:15.299 --> 00:30:16.439
 They belong to the creature.

00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:17.899
 Our will is our will.

00:30:17.899 --> 00:30:24.579
 But these things are only possible because God has first decreed and caused them to be.

00:30:25.399 --> 00:30:27.099
 Otherwise they couldn't even exist.

00:30:27.419 --> 00:30:27.539
 Right.

00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:35.839
 In fact, God uses these second causes to achieve his eternal decree.

00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:36.839
 They're not independent of him.

00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:36.839


00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:45.819
 They're not independent of him and separate from him as if like he just creates creation, steps back and all these things just happen on their own.

00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:47.039
 No.

00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.559
 He's still thoroughly sovereign over them and in them.

00:30:50.559 --> 00:31:02.339
 But the relationship is that he uses second causes to achieve his purpose.

00:31:02.339 --> 00:31:09.440
 So God doesn't just kind of zap things, zap his decree into existence and it just starts happening in time.

00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:10.440
 He doesn't use invisible strings.

00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.440
 He doesn't use invisible strings in the universe and kind of puppeteers everything.

00:31:15.100 --> 00:31:19.039
 It's that he, God, decrees all things.

00:31:20.140 --> 00:31:21.440
 He has his plan.

00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.680
 Let's call it his plan in action when it actually happens in time.

00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:32.920
 So the crucifixion or I can see healing existing, right?

00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:33.779
 Plan in action.

00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:36.060
 But how does that come about?

00:31:36.060 --> 00:31:48.279
 Well, he uses second causes to bring that about.

00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.220
 That's the means by which he achieves his will.

00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.139
 So let's expand that even more.

00:31:57.619 --> 00:31:58.039
 Here we go.

00:31:58.139 --> 00:31:58.500
 Here we go.

00:31:59.399 --> 00:32:09.339
 So God is the first cause, but he uses lots of other things in creation to achieve his plan, his decree, right?

00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:15.299
 So he's decreed rain will fall yesterday, right?

00:32:15.399 --> 00:32:15.899
 Last night.

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:20.060
 So he used clouds, second causes to achieve that.

00:32:20.780 --> 00:32:26.100
 When fire burns, that's all in his decree, but he uses the fire, when wood burns, right?

00:32:26.220 --> 00:32:28.100
 But he uses fire to achieve that.

00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:33.400
 When there's a war, that's all in God's decree and he uses kings to achieve that.

00:32:34.560 --> 00:32:43.360
 When you are encouraged, when God wants your heart to be encouraged, he uses people's words for that or he uses someone texting on WhatsApp.

00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.819
 That is God using second causes.

00:32:47.019 --> 00:32:49.519
 And we see this throughout scripture, right?

00:32:49.619 --> 00:32:50.599
 So think about Joseph.

00:32:51.639 --> 00:32:52.839
 Genesis 50, 20.

00:32:53.740 --> 00:32:55.359
 As for you, you...

00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:56.740
 Did I get to write this down for you?

00:32:57.619 --> 00:32:58.319
 I haven't even written it.

00:32:59.359 --> 00:32:59.719
 Oh, yes.

00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:00.240
 I have, yeah, yeah.

00:33:00.479 --> 00:33:01.240
 Genesis 50, 20.

00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:08.700
 See, as for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good to bring it about that many people should be kept alive.

00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:21.759
 So do you see, God is the first cause, but he uses and intends the second cause of Joseph's brothers and their actions to achieve his eternal purpose of saving lives.

00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.200
 Or think about Isaiah.

00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:26.200
 We thought about this in the very first week.

00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:32.379
 Assyria, the rod of my anger, the staff in their hands is my fury.

00:33:33.619 --> 00:33:43.819
 So Assyria's actions, like the staff in their hands is really God's intended fury, right?

00:33:43.819 --> 00:33:49.519
 So God used the second cause of Assyria to bring judgment on Israel.

00:33:50.339 --> 00:33:52.379
 They were the second cause he used.

00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:53.700
 And think about the cross.

00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:01.439
 This Jesus delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of all his men.

00:34:02.639 --> 00:34:05.319
 So God intended all of this.

00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:12.039
 And he used the second cause of the Pharisees' hearts and their choices, their free choices, what they wanted to do.

00:34:12.619 --> 00:34:19.719
 And Pilate's governing and his judgment, he used all of that to achieve his eternal decree of Christ saving sinners.

00:34:21.259 --> 00:34:32.420
 And that is how we can get a little bit closer to understanding God's eternal, how God's eternal decree relates to our choices and our hearts and our wills.

00:34:32.420 --> 00:34:37.099
 All these second causes are genuine, right?

00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.139
 So let's think of, for example, cross, right?

00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:44.780
 He uses people's hearts, Judas, Judas is free choice.

00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:48.639
 He uses that to achieve his decree.

00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:54.400
 And all these second causes are genuine and real and our free will really does belong to us.

00:34:54.780 --> 00:35:00.019
 And God uses these things to achieve his eternal decree.

00:35:00.019 --> 00:35:07.119
 And this is how we can understand both evangelism and prayer.

00:35:07.940 --> 00:35:09.239
 I'm just going to quickly do this.

00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:12.019
 I'm basically just going to state it and we can discuss afterwards, right?

00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:16.539
 So look at Romans 10 in your little breakout box, right?

00:35:16.539 --> 00:35:20.099
 Now, if God has eternally elected his people, right?

00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:22.920
 He's got a people that he knows he's going to save.

00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:27.239
 That number cannot change, be lessened or added to.

00:35:27.820 --> 00:35:31.300
 How does he actually save those elects in time?

00:35:32.179 --> 00:35:32.960
 Well, Romans 10.

00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.659
 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed?

00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.900
 And how are they to believe in him of whom they've never heard?

00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:42.079
 And how are they to hear without someone preaching?

00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.079
 And how are they to preach unless they are sent?

00:35:45.099 --> 00:35:48.139
 So faith comes from hearing and hearing through the word of Christ.

00:35:49.299 --> 00:35:49.940
 James 1.

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:55.719
 Of his own will, he brought us forth by the word of truth that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.

00:35:58.219 --> 00:36:04.860
 So God doesn't just zap down salvation to his elect, right?

00:36:04.860 --> 00:36:10.480
 God uses the preaching of his word to call and save his elect.

00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:13.140
 So God's given faith, right?

00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.460
 Sovereignly given from God comes through the hearing of the gospel.

00:36:18.180 --> 00:36:20.900
 That is the second cause God uses, right?

00:36:22.660 --> 00:36:27.880
 And so that is how we can understand why evangelism, right?

00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:39.619
 As we preach here on Sundays, as we run Easter mission weeks, as the gospel goes out in Club 16 and ignites or hope explored, or we just share the gospel with neighbours.

00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.380
 That is how God saves his elect, right?

00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:51.720
 That is the second cause God establishes and uses to achieve his eternal decree.

00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.900
 And it's actually an amazing privilege that we're seeing here.

00:36:55.900 --> 00:37:00.280
 We genuinely become a part of God's eternal plan.

00:37:01.740 --> 00:37:09.740
 And so think, why, the second question, why is God's sovereignty actually needed for prayer and evangelism rather than just negating it?

00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.760
 Well, without God's sovereignty, our evangelism would just be pointless.

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.360
 We couldn't raise the dead.

00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.539
 We can't convince hard hearts.

00:37:20.619 --> 00:37:23.420
 We can't release people from the slavery of sin.

00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:26.840
 But we can be assured that God can do that.

00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:29.519
 In fact, God is the only one who can.

00:37:29.619 --> 00:37:30.240
 We need him.

00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:34.260
 God's sovereignty means our evangelism and our preaching.

00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:36.380
 It's actually worthwhile.

00:37:37.700 --> 00:37:40.099
 God will call his elect through us.

00:37:40.099 --> 00:37:46.699
 Let's just finish with prayer.

00:37:47.460 --> 00:37:50.519
 Because that is how we can also think about prayer.

00:37:51.659 --> 00:38:02.099
 So just like God uses clouds to bring us rain, or Assyria to bring his judgment, or our preaching and words to bring salvation to his elect.

00:38:02.799 --> 00:38:07.259
 Well, God also uses our prayers to bring about his plan.

00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:13.140
 Now, this is why James says, James 4.2, you do not have because you do not ask.

00:38:13.540 --> 00:38:16.780
 There's a genuine effectiveness to prayer.

00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:23.500
 Prayer is the second cause, the means by which God achieves his eternal decree.

00:38:23.500 --> 00:38:28.800
 And this is the reason why prayer works and is so powerful.

00:38:29.539 --> 00:38:31.719
 God uses our prayers.

00:38:31.820 --> 00:38:33.320
 He actually uses them.

00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:42.280
 He has said, I promise to hear the prayers of my people, to use those prayers and work through them to bring about my plan.

00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.059
 So just because God has a plan doesn't mean we shouldn't pray.

00:38:47.059 --> 00:38:51.579
 No, God has elected his people, but we should still preach the gospel.

00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.380
 He commands us to preach, and so he commands us to pray as well.

00:38:55.980 --> 00:38:57.860
 And he uses both those things.

00:38:58.279 --> 00:39:07.500
 In fact, we may ask, some people may ask, or when you think about the sovereignty of God, people may ask, well, if God is sovereign, why pray?

00:39:07.500 --> 00:39:13.860
 But really, we should ask, well, if God isn't sovereign, why should we pray?

00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:20.739
 If he isn't sovereign, then there's no guarantee that he can answer our prayers or use them or do anything to help us.

00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.639
 There's no guarantee of the future at all.

00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:24.659
 But God is sovereign.

00:39:25.780 --> 00:39:29.719
 And graciously, he uses our prayer to achieve his eternal decree.

00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:36.219
 And so this is the reason and confidence that you can have to pray.

00:39:36.959 --> 00:39:37.939
 He hears you.

00:39:38.059 --> 00:39:39.099
 He wants you to pray.

00:39:39.299 --> 00:39:43.639
 And he is able to answer because God is sovereign.

00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:46.679
 Right.

00:39:46.739 --> 00:39:49.399
 That was about 15 minutes worth in about two minutes.

00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:50.859
 So you might have questions.

00:39:51.139 --> 00:39:52.919
 We'll do a couple of minutes for questions on that.

00:39:52.919 --> 00:39:53.119
 Thank you.