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 So, if you have your Bibles with you, you might like to turn to Revelation chapter 2 again.

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 And I'm going to read to you from verse 12 onwards.

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 I think we've got the readings up on the screen.

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 Revelation 2, verse 12.

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 To the angel of the church in Pergamum write,

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 These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword.

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 I know where you live, where Satan has his throne.

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 Yet you remain true to my name.

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 You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness,

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 who was put to death in your city, where Satan lives.

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 Nevertheless, I have a few things against you.

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 There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam,

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 who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin,

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 so that they ate food sacrificed to idols and committed sexual immorality.

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 Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans.

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 Repent, therefore.

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 Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

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 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

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 To the one who is victorious, I will give him some of the hidden manna.

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 I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it,

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 known only to the one who receives it.

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 This is the word of the Lord.

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 Thanks be to God.

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 So, we come to the church in Pergamum,

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 a church which, I suppose you would say,

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 received a kind of mixed report from the risen Christ,

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 delivered through John.

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 Just a word about the city of Pergamum today.

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 If you go to Turkey, it's a city called Bergama.

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 B-E-R-G-A-M-A.

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 And it rose to prominence as a city in the ancient world,

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 round about the 3rd century BC,

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 during what's called the Attalade period,

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 when Attalus conquered the city.

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 It soon became very prominent when the Romans took over,

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 and in fact became the capital of the Roman province of Asia.

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 Also there were two notable altars.

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 One was to Asclepius.

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 Some of you might know Asclepius if you've been to Kos,

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 where the first, at least the first hospital we have any remnants of,

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 is on Kos,

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 and is dedicated to Asclepius.

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 Asclepius's symbol is a serpent wrapped around a pole,

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 and was taken up by medical professions across the world into the modern day.

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 Asclepius was the god of healing.

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 The other altar of significance was,

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 up on the hill above Pergamum,

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 there was a massive altar dedicated to the Roman god Zeus,

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 who was the kind of king god of the Roman pantheon of gods.

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 And because of all this,

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 there's also a temple dedicated to Augustus and Rome.

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 And because of this,

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 it became the centre of the imperial cult of the Roman Empire.

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 A very Roman city, as you would say.

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 And I want, by way of introduction tonight,

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 just to run through some stuff.

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 Because this was a city,

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 which the risen Christ describes as the habitat of Satan.

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 And the challenge of that seems to me,

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 which is, I think, a similar challenge to what we have today,

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 although I think we would be a little more uncomfortable

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 in widely using the language of satanic to describe our culture.

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 At the same time,

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 I think you would agree to me,

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 agree with me,

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 that there is a lot about our culture,

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 which is going badly wrong at the current time.

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 I have described this to congregations in the area

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 as kind of economic challenges.

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 It is a surprise to me,

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 if I'm being quite honest with you,

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 that the American economy has picked up a little bit,

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 whereas ours is still flatlining pretty well.

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 But I think there will be economic challenges

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 across the West,

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 and particularly across Europe,

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 in these coming days.

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 And we feel that at home

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 when we read about people

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 who are the victims of the so-called economic crisis.

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 Some of you, maybe some of them,

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 I don't know.

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 And we talk about the environmental challenges of the world.

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 I think they're huge.

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 And, you know,

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 you have to take your own view

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 on what you make of the climate science and all that,

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 so I'm not here to tell you what to think.

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 But it does seem,

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 although, you know,

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 one would say in terms of weather patterns,

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 it's happened over a fairly short period to date,

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 I think it's a tendency at the moment

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 that we're looking at

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 that weather patterns are changing.

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 And when it comes to trying to fix the planet,

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 the idea is, you know,

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 that we will reduce our carbon dioxide emissions

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 and that's going to cost a lot of money,

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 which has got to be factored in

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 to the cost of living.

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 Nobody who manufactures stuff

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 isn't going to pass the cost

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 of environmental responsibility.

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 They're not going to pay that themselves.

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 They're going to pass it on to the customer

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 through the goods and services

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 that they provide.

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 And then, really seriously,

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 the emotional challenges of our day.

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 In the Times today,

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 there's a big article about people in their 20s,

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 a large number of whom are not at work

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 because they are mentally unwell.

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 They're suffering from anxiety,

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 depression, these things.

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 Things that we shouldn't take lightly,

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 but we should ask questions about,

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 well, what kind of a society is it

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 that's creating people

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 in the prime of their lives

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 who can't even go to work

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 because they're not well?

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 I think I have gone as far as saying,

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 you know, one of the things that troubles me

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 about our environment,

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 our culture at the moment is,

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 it seems to make people ill.

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 So I want to talk to you today

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 about the challenge of evangelism

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 in a hostile environment.

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 Get round to Pergamum in a few minutes,

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 but that basically is their lot.

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 How do you set about

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 trying to win people for Christ

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 in a city where Satan

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 and the Roman Empire hold sway?

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 Both of whom had a reputation

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 for trying to destroy organizations

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 or agencies or people

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 who posed any threat whatsoever

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 in their direction.

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 So I want just to think for a moment,

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 if I may, about these challenges.

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 And I think the challenges of Pergamum

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 are the challenges of today.

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 And I want to just draw your attention to,

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 it's not our set text this evening,

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 but I just want to draw your attention

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 to Acts chapter 17.

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 Before I do that,

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 I'm going to talk to you about six things

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 that I think are important

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 in our evangelistic engagement

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 with a hostile culture.

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 The first thing is,

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 we need to be praying Christians.

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 In Ephesians chapter 6 and verse 18,

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 the great apostle bids Christians

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 to pray at all times in the Spirit.

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 Paul's not that interested

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 in the kind of prayers

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 where people just gabble away

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 or just say stuff for impact or effect.

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 He's interested in prayer in the Spirit.

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 Prayer directed to God,

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 directed by God,

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 in the power of the Holy Spirit.

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 But Acts 17 is where I want to draw your attention to.

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 And I want to draw your attention to it

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 because it is the only example

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 in the New Testament

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 of a sermon preached to Gentiles,

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 i.e. non-Jewish believers.

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 Paul, believe it or not,

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 on his missionary journeys,

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 had a plan.

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 The plan was,

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 he would go to what you might call

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 the warm contacts.

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 He'd go down to the synagogue

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 and start preaching

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 that Jesus was the Messiah.

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 And he'd use,

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 it's a challenge to preachers,

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 he would use the Old Testament to do that.

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 Didn't have a New Testament then.

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 And in Athens,

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 on the Areopagus,

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 which is a hill

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 just outside the wall of the city today,

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 Paul preached to a crowd of people.

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 We don't have time tonight

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 to go in depth

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 into the content of his sermon,

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 but it is fascinating to look at

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 in relation to the fact

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 that Paul is speaking

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 to Gentiles,

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 non-Jewish people.

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 And Paul says,

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 in Acts chapter 17,

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 that before he addressed the crowd,

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 he said to them,

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 you know,

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 as I walked around your city,

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 I see you're a very religious people,

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 he said.

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 In fact,

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 he said,

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 you know,

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 I can tell that

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 by the number of altars there are.

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 He said,

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 and I came across an altar

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 to an unknown God.

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 He said,

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 so I want to,

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 this is Paul's sense of humour,

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 right?

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 I mean,

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 you don't have to laugh.

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 Paul said,

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 I found this altar

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 dedicated to the unknown God,

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 but I'm going to tell you

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 about the God you can know.

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 And proceeds to talk

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 about Jesus,

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 the Messiah

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 and the coming judge,

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 who created the world

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 and all that therein is it.

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 But before Paul got round

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 to his message,

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 he had spent time

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 observing the lives

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 of these Athenians.

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 So he could kind of

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 get the vibe

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 of their culture.

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 So he could address them

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 in a way

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 that they might understand.

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 In Acts chapter 17

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 and verse 23,

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 we read how Paul

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 engages them

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 by quoting to them

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 from their culture.

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 He quotes

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 a verse

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 of a poem.

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 I mean,

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 in my book,

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 it's not much of a poem

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 because it doesn't rhyme,

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 but the quote is,

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 we are his offspring.

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 Paul uses

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 what you might call

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 the culture

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 of local creative art

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 to try and communicate

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 with these people.

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 Oh,

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 that in our churches

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 we could reignite

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 our imaginations

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 to communicate

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 in such a way

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 that connects

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 with our culture

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 rather than flies

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 over the heads

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 of those

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 who show up.

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 And then there is

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 a challenge

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 in Acts chapter 17

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 and verse 30.

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 Let me read that

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 to you.

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 Paul says,

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 in the past

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 God overlooked

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 such ignorance.

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 That's a kind

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 of polite way.

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 What Paul was

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 basically saying to them

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 is,

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 in the past

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 God overlooked

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 your ignorance.

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 He said,

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 in the past

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 he overlooked that,

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 but now

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 he commends

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 people everywhere

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 to repent.

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 I think that,

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 you know,

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 I had a,

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 what's called

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 a peripatetic ministry.

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 It sounds highfalutin.

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 What it means is

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 I went to a different

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 church every Sunday.

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 And what I would say

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 is that

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 there was,

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 you know,

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 quite a lot of history

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 in the sermons,

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 quite a lot of Greek,

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 you know,

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 look how smart I am,

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 I quote Greek.

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 Greek.

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 But,

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 but,

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 what most

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 messages I've

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 listened to

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 were very low on

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 was challenge.

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 I felt like,

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 you know that

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 proverb we have

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 in English,

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 you know,

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 you can take a horse

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 to water,

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 but you

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 can't make it drink.

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 A lot of preaching

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 felt to me like that,

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 you know,

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 the horses

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 have showed up

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 to listen

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 and they've been

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 taken to the edge

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 of the river

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 and then the preacher

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 takes us back

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 and gives a blessing

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 and we all go home.

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 No,

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 people need to be

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 challenged.

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 And my experience

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 of evangelism

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 amongst men

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 in particular

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 is

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 the firmer the challenge

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 the more likely

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 you are to get

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 a response.

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 And then

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 we know this

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 from 2 Timothy

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 chapter 4

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 and verse 2

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 that we're called.

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 So in a lot of churches,

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 evangelical churches

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 in particular,

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 people think

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 that the moment

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 that somebody's

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 converted,

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 their job is done.

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 Wrong.

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 It's a new beginning,

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 it's a new start.

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 Paul says to this

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 young church

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 Timothy

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 and second,

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 young church leader

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 in 2 Timothy,

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 preach the word,

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 be prepared

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 in season

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 and out of season,

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 correct,

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 rebuke and encourage

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 with great patience

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 and careful instruction.

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 what did Paul

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 imagine

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 that Timothy

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 might preach?

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 Did Paul think,

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 sorry to use

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 Anglican speak

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 for a moment,

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 that it would be

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 highly effective

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 for some preacher

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 to stand up

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 and give a few

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 garbled thoughts

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 on the collect

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 of the day?

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 No, he didn't think

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 that at all.

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 In chapter 3,

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 Paul tells us

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 exactly what he wants

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 Timothy to preach about.

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 2 Timothy 3,

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 16,

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 all scripture

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 is God-breathed

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 and is useful

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 for teaching,

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 rebuking,

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 correcting

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 and training

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 in righteousness.

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 Paul didn't imagine

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 that preachers

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 could just stand up

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 and do their own

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 fang.

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 He imagined

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 that the faithful

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 preacher will stand up

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 with the word of God

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 in his hand

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 and to the best

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 of his or her ability

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 will give exposition

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 to that.

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 I said that

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 every

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 moment of

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 any approach

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 to evangelism

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 needs to be

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 surrounded by prayer.

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 My experience

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 was for every

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 new Christian

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 we had in the church

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 that I was minister

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 at,

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 that we had to spend

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 a lot of time

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 and resource

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 in taking somebody

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 across the line

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 and giving their life

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 to Christ

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 to kind of

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 keep them there,

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 to stop them

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 from falling away

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 and becoming

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 backslidden.

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 An important part

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 of that

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 was making sure

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 that new converts

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 were prayed for.

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 Anybody remember

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 Operation Andrew?

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 My memory is

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 that what it

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 asked church members,

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 people like you,

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 to do

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 was to split

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 into groups

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 of three

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 meeting in

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 your homes

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 or in the coffee

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 shop or wherever

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 and the three

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 of you

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 would bring

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 the names

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 of three people

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 who you really

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 wanted to

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 play a part

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 in bringing

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 them to Christ.

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 You would then

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 pray together

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 so you'd have

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 nine people

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 to pray for

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 and three of you

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 praying for those

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 nine people.

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 I can't

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 think for a

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 moment

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 why we don't

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 do that today.

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 Our experience

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 back then

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 and different

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 time I get

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 that but our

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 experience back

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 then was

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 a remarkable

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 number of people

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 came through

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 to trust

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 Christ

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 not

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 as a direct

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 result of us

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 praying

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 but I can't

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 help thinking

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 that our

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 prayer

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 for these

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 people

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 men and

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 women

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 went

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 you know

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 it was a

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 wasted time.

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 There was a

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 book some of

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 you may have

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 read some

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 years ago

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 which was

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 called

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 What Happens

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 When Women

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 Prayed

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 and the

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 stories and

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 testimonies

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 that came out

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 of these

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 groups of

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 women

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 that met

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 I think

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 they called

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 them Lydia

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 groups or

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 something like

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 that and

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 they pray

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 together and

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 there's some

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 amazing outcomes

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 of those

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 prayers.

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 Look we

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 think there's a

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 lot of stuff

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 to do today

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 to engage

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 with our

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 culture but

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 trust me

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 there is a

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 lot of

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 praying that

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 needs to be

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 done as

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 well.

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 I want to

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 go on just

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 before I talk

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 about Pergamon

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 very briefly

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 to talk about

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 this fine

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 balance between

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 collusion and

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 compromise and

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 I want to say

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 to you to start

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 with always

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 remember the

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 church isn't

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 I mean the

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 church is

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 institutionalized

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 it's certainly

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 the church of

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 England is which

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 is the only one

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 I can speak

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 of with any

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 inner knowledge.

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 The church is

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 not an

00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:49.700
 institution in

00:18:49.700 --> 00:18:50.559
 a normal sense

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 it's a living

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 body.

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 I read an

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 article recently

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 in the

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 American

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 New American

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 Scientist

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 American

00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:01.539
 Scientist I

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 think it's

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 called and

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 it was talking

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 about how

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 every day

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 every movement

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 everything we

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 do is a

00:19:09.120 --> 00:19:09.480
 miracle.

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 Talked about

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 how avoiding

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 serious disease

00:19:16.220 --> 00:19:17.320
 could be down

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 to a very

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 minimal factor

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 like at the

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 right time

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 you coughed

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 and by coughing

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 you expel

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 from your body

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 something that

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 if it had taken

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 hold in your

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 body would

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 have caused

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 you serious

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 illness.

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 It talked

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 about the

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 signals your

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 brain sends

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 out to do

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 a very

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 simple thing

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 like blinking

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 your eyes.

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 And as we

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 know in

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 1 Corinthians

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 12

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 Paul speaks

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 about the

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 church as a

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 body.

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 And you

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 know only

00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:52.500
 too well

00:19:52.500 --> 00:19:53.480
 that there

00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:53.980
 doesn't need to

00:19:53.980 --> 00:19:54.920
 be much wrong

00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:55.640
 with your body

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 for it to lose

00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:57.300
 its balance

00:19:57.299 --> 00:19:58.839
 and for you

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 to be

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 seriously

00:19:59.940 --> 00:20:00.859
 undermined

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 in your

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 ability to

00:20:01.899 --> 00:20:02.480
 do things

00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:03.019
 because of

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 that.

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 We won't

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 talk about

00:20:07.539 --> 00:20:08.099
 the tongue.

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 James does

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 that and

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 warns us

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 about the

00:20:12.779 --> 00:20:13.419
 tongue and

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 how the

00:20:14.579 --> 00:20:15.519
 same tongue

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 that blesses

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 God is the

00:20:18.500 --> 00:20:19.000
 same tongue

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 that we used

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 to curse

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 men and

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 women with.

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 But just

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 the everyday

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 balance.

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 You know

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 I'm sure

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 we should

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 wake up

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 thanking

00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:31.479
 God and

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 praying to

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 him that

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 God would

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 maintain our

00:20:34.299 --> 00:20:35.719
 physical balance

00:20:35.719 --> 00:20:36.519
 in our

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 health and

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 the reason

00:20:37.859 --> 00:20:39.699
 why Paul

00:20:39.699 --> 00:20:40.259
 calls the

00:20:40.259 --> 00:20:40.659
 church a

00:20:40.659 --> 00:20:41.199
 body is

00:20:41.199 --> 00:20:41.559
 that he

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 makes the

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 point that

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 when one

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 part of

00:20:43.959 --> 00:20:44.559
 that body

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 is out of

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 kilter with

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 the rest

00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:47.519
 the whole

00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:48.739
 body is

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 impacted.

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 He also

00:20:51.639 --> 00:20:52.139
 makes the

00:20:52.139 --> 00:20:52.679
 point that

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 we can't

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 all be

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 hands.

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 We can't

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 all be

00:20:55.740 --> 00:20:56.120
 feet.

00:20:57.120 --> 00:20:57.600
 We can't

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 all be

00:20:58.100 --> 00:20:59.000
 heads.

00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:01.360
 The church

00:21:01.360 --> 00:21:02.519
 is a body

00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:03.080
 with different

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 parts as

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 Paul.

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 And by

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 that he

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 means we

00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:06.880
 are a

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 group of

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 people who

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 are gifted

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 by God

00:21:08.860 --> 00:21:09.640
 with spiritual

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 gifts in

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 order to

00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:12.580
 glorify God

00:21:12.580 --> 00:21:13.360
 to serve

00:21:13.360 --> 00:21:13.860
 the church

00:21:13.860 --> 00:21:14.180
 and to

00:21:14.180 --> 00:21:14.620
 bless the

00:21:14.620 --> 00:21:14.940
 world.

00:21:18.220 --> 00:21:18.660
 So

00:21:18.660 --> 00:21:22.220
 the church

00:21:22.220 --> 00:21:22.700
 is a

00:21:22.700 --> 00:21:23.380
 living body

00:21:23.380 --> 00:21:23.820
 and the

00:21:23.820 --> 00:21:24.420
 issue of

00:21:24.420 --> 00:21:25.340
 balance is

00:21:25.339 --> 00:21:26.039
 a huge

00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:26.539
 issue.

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 But here's

00:21:29.099 --> 00:21:29.679
 a question

00:21:29.679 --> 00:21:30.119
 which I

00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:30.480
 think is

00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:31.279
 impossible to

00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:31.799
 answer and

00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:32.480
 I feel it's

00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:33.119
 a bit unfair

00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:33.839
 asking you.

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 But how do

00:21:35.059 --> 00:21:35.559
 we know

00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:36.480
 when we've

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 crossed the

00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.240
 line between

00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:40.359
 compromise and

00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:40.919
 collusion?

00:21:41.779 --> 00:21:42.399
 I'm making

00:21:42.399 --> 00:21:43.039
 the assumption

00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:44.539
 that compromise

00:21:44.539 --> 00:21:45.939
 isn't always

00:21:45.939 --> 00:21:46.319
 wrong.

00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:46.359
 wrong.

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 But it can

00:21:49.419 --> 00:21:50.220
 quickly become

00:21:50.220 --> 00:21:50.980
 the foothills

00:21:50.980 --> 00:21:52.419
 of unhelpful

00:21:52.419 --> 00:21:53.039
 collusion.

00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:55.919
 So now

00:21:55.919 --> 00:21:57.379
 the church

00:21:57.379 --> 00:21:58.240
 in Pergamum

00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.139
 and the

00:22:00.139 --> 00:22:01.240
 risen Christ

00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:02.519
 through his

00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:02.919
 letter

00:22:02.919 --> 00:22:04.159
 delivered by

00:22:04.159 --> 00:22:04.740
 John

00:22:04.740 --> 00:22:06.319
 starts by

00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:07.039
 saying

00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.460
 talking about

00:22:09.460 --> 00:22:10.480
 sorry

00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:11.380
 let me

00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:12.299
 turn over

00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:13.720
 talks about

00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:15.539
 these are

00:22:15.539 --> 00:22:15.880
 the words

00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:16.299
 of him

00:22:16.299 --> 00:22:16.599
 who has

00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:17.360
 the sharp

00:22:17.360 --> 00:22:18.339
 double-edged

00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:18.920
 sword.

00:22:23.019 --> 00:22:26.460
 At the

00:22:26.460 --> 00:22:27.539
 time that

00:22:27.539 --> 00:22:30.019
 John was

00:22:30.019 --> 00:22:30.839
 writing there

00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:31.960
 were two

00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:33.799
 kinds of

00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:35.160
 weapon that

00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:35.759
 were described

00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:36.500
 as a sword.

00:22:36.500 --> 00:22:37.619
 one was

00:22:37.619 --> 00:22:38.500
 a makaria

00:22:38.500 --> 00:22:40.039
 which is

00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:40.559
 more like

00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:41.400
 a big

00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:41.799
 dagger

00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:42.440
 than a

00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:42.859
 sword.

00:22:44.339 --> 00:22:45.079
 And the

00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:45.619
 other was

00:22:45.619 --> 00:22:45.900
 the

00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:46.980
 ramphosa

00:22:46.980 --> 00:22:48.720
 which is

00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:49.099
 a proper

00:22:49.099 --> 00:22:49.599
 sword

00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:50.759
 both sides

00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:51.279
 of which

00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:52.400
 were home

00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.440
 to be

00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:56.059
 very very

00:22:56.059 --> 00:22:56.619
 sharp.

00:22:57.740 --> 00:22:58.599
 And it

00:22:58.599 --> 00:22:59.059
 was said

00:22:59.059 --> 00:22:59.579
 that

00:22:59.579 --> 00:23:01.819
 soldiers

00:23:01.819 --> 00:23:03.539
 could

00:23:03.539 --> 00:23:04.900
 split things

00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:05.339
 down the

00:23:05.339 --> 00:23:05.900
 middle very

00:23:05.900 --> 00:23:06.460
 easily.

00:23:06.500 --> 00:23:07.099
 with their

00:23:07.099 --> 00:23:07.700
 ramphosa

00:23:07.700 --> 00:23:08.160
 with their

00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:08.480
 big

00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:08.799
 swords.

00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:09.579
 That's the

00:23:09.579 --> 00:23:10.160
 word that's

00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:10.960
 used here.

00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:12.339
 The other

00:23:12.339 --> 00:23:12.839
 word is

00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:13.460
 used in

00:23:13.460 --> 00:23:13.759
 the New

00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:14.160
 Testament.

00:23:14.380 --> 00:23:14.720
 I think

00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:15.440
 it's

00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:16.180
 something like

00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:16.579
 Hebrews

00:23:16.579 --> 00:23:17.400
 chapter 12

00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:17.839
 and verse

00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:18.359
 10 which

00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:18.920
 talks about

00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:19.579
 the double-edged

00:23:19.579 --> 00:23:19.880
 sword.

00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:20.940
 That's not

00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:21.779
 a ramphosa

00:23:21.779 --> 00:23:22.460
 that is

00:23:22.460 --> 00:23:23.259
 a makaria

00:23:23.259 --> 00:23:23.819
 that's the

00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:24.539
 short dagger

00:23:24.539 --> 00:23:24.900
 thing.

00:23:25.779 --> 00:23:26.619
 Of course

00:23:26.619 --> 00:23:28.019
 scholars have

00:23:28.019 --> 00:23:29.279
 written pages

00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:29.960
 on the

00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:30.460
 difference

00:23:30.460 --> 00:23:31.099
 between the

00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:32.099
 use of

00:23:32.099 --> 00:23:33.019
 those two

00:23:33.019 --> 00:23:34.759
 words for

00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.119
 sword.

00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:37.160
 what it

00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:37.880
 means is

00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:39.079
 that this

00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:39.700
 double-edged

00:23:39.700 --> 00:23:40.299
 sword that

00:23:40.299 --> 00:23:40.700
 the risen

00:23:40.700 --> 00:23:42.259
 Christ has

00:23:42.259 --> 00:23:43.880
 tells us

00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:44.420
 of his

00:23:44.420 --> 00:23:45.140
 sovereignty,

00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:46.420
 his double

00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:47.039
 sovereignty.

00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:48.519
 He is

00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:49.359
 sovereign of

00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:49.859
 all that

00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:50.539
 goes on

00:23:50.539 --> 00:23:51.660
 on the

00:23:51.660 --> 00:23:52.240
 earth but

00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:52.859
 he's also

00:23:52.859 --> 00:23:54.259
 sovereign of

00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:54.720
 what will

00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:55.019
 be.

00:23:55.019 --> 00:23:59.740
 so there's

00:23:59.740 --> 00:24:00.339
 an element

00:24:00.339 --> 00:24:03.920
 of the

00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:04.779
 amazing

00:24:04.779 --> 00:24:07.160
 authority of

00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:08.039
 Jesus with

00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:08.519
 this double

00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:09.180
-edged sword

00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:10.740
 but there is

00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:12.259
 also a

00:24:12.259 --> 00:24:13.000
 measure of

00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:13.480
 judgment.

00:24:14.619 --> 00:24:15.059
 It's a word

00:24:15.059 --> 00:24:16.420
 that we don't

00:24:16.420 --> 00:24:17.180
 really like to

00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:18.039
 think about too

00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:18.680
 much in the

00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:19.440
 church today

00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:20.500
 but that's

00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:21.779
 the meaning

00:24:21.779 --> 00:24:22.180
 of that

00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:22.759
 symbolism.

00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:23.799
 I know

00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:24.440
 where you

00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:24.940
 live.

00:24:25.220 --> 00:24:25.579
 It sounds

00:24:25.579 --> 00:24:25.920
 like a

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:26.539
 threat doesn't

00:24:26.539 --> 00:24:27.000
 it when you

00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:27.640
 read it out

00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:28.000
 like that?

00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:28.240
 I know

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:28.539
 where you

00:24:28.539 --> 00:24:28.779
 live.

00:24:30.339 --> 00:24:31.579
 Where Satan

00:24:31.579 --> 00:24:32.200
 has his

00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:32.559
 throne.

00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:33.960
 Again

00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:35.379
 wide

00:24:35.379 --> 00:24:36.519
 speculation as

00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:37.220
 to exactly

00:24:37.220 --> 00:24:37.819
 what John

00:24:37.819 --> 00:24:38.519
 was referring

00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:39.180
 to there.

00:24:39.700 --> 00:24:40.140
 Some think

00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:40.579
 it was

00:24:40.579 --> 00:24:41.819
 that altar

00:24:41.819 --> 00:24:42.480
 to Zeus

00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:43.579
 on the

00:24:43.579 --> 00:24:44.160
 hillside

00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:44.500
 there.

00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:45.119
 Some think

00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:45.599
 it was the

00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:46.039
 temple of

00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:46.900
 Asclepius.

00:24:47.619 --> 00:24:48.099
 Some,

00:24:48.420 --> 00:24:49.099
 probably me,

00:24:49.539 --> 00:24:50.500
 think it was

00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:51.339
 the temple

00:24:51.339 --> 00:24:52.759
 dedicated to

00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.259
 Augustus and

00:24:54.259 --> 00:24:54.939
 Rome which

00:24:54.939 --> 00:24:57.759
 made Pergamum

00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:58.480
 the centre

00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.399
 of the

00:25:00.399 --> 00:25:02.500
 cult,

00:25:03.299 --> 00:25:04.179
 the Roman

00:25:04.179 --> 00:25:04.720
 Empire.

00:25:07.879 --> 00:25:08.819
 What the

00:25:08.819 --> 00:25:10.000
 risen Christ

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:10.839
 likes about

00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:11.459
 them is

00:25:11.459 --> 00:25:12.879
 they remain

00:25:12.879 --> 00:25:13.779
 true to the

00:25:13.779 --> 00:25:14.399
 name of

00:25:14.399 --> 00:25:14.759
 Jesus.

00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:16.480
 He says

00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:17.159
 you didn't

00:25:17.159 --> 00:25:18.240
 renounce your

00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:19.139
 faith in me

00:25:19.140 --> 00:25:20.380
 and he

00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:21.280
 gives only

00:25:21.280 --> 00:25:22.060
 one example

00:25:22.060 --> 00:25:23.040
 but one

00:25:23.040 --> 00:25:23.840
 example of

00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:24.920
 somebody who

00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:25.320
 is so

00:25:25.320 --> 00:25:26.060
 faithful to

00:25:26.060 --> 00:25:27.680
 Jesus under

00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.460
 the threat

00:25:28.460 --> 00:25:29.759
 of this

00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:30.740
 hostile

00:25:30.740 --> 00:25:32.520
 culture that

00:25:32.520 --> 00:25:33.160
 it cost him

00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:33.800
 his life

00:25:33.800 --> 00:25:35.120
 and to pass

00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:35.900
 my faithful

00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:37.060
 witness who

00:25:37.060 --> 00:25:37.680
 is put to

00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:38.759
 death in

00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:39.440
 your city

00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:40.259
 where Satan

00:25:40.259 --> 00:25:40.860
 lives.

00:25:43.180 --> 00:25:43.400
 I mean

00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:44.200
 imagine that

00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:44.700
 there isn't

00:25:44.700 --> 00:25:45.620
 crisis to

00:25:45.620 --> 00:25:45.759
 them.

00:25:46.120 --> 00:25:46.440
 I know

00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:46.840
 where you

00:25:46.840 --> 00:25:48.840
 live and

00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:49.240
 it's where

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:50.159
 Satan lives.

00:25:51.819 --> 00:25:52.319
 And by

00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:52.899
 and large

00:25:52.899 --> 00:25:54.740
 I'm impressed

00:25:54.740 --> 00:25:55.539
 by your

00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:56.359
 faithfulness.

00:25:56.439 --> 00:25:57.179
 I'm impressed

00:25:57.179 --> 00:25:57.859
 that you

00:25:57.859 --> 00:25:59.000
 don't collude

00:25:59.000 --> 00:25:59.899
 with the

00:25:59.899 --> 00:26:02.339
 cult of

00:26:02.339 --> 00:26:02.740
 Rome.

00:26:03.139 --> 00:26:03.619
 And I'm

00:26:03.619 --> 00:26:04.220
 impressed

00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:05.279
 that you

00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:06.319
 resist

00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:07.759
 the

00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:09.679
 satanic

00:26:09.679 --> 00:26:10.839
 forces at

00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:11.899
 work amongst

00:26:11.899 --> 00:26:12.199
 you.

00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:12.340
 people.

00:26:13.539 --> 00:26:14.500
 But then

00:26:14.500 --> 00:26:15.140
 he goes

00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:16.100
 on and

00:26:16.100 --> 00:26:16.539
 says

00:26:16.539 --> 00:26:17.600
 nevertheless

00:26:17.600 --> 00:26:19.799
 nevertheless

00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:21.759
 and so

00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:22.759
 reminds me

00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:23.220
 of my own

00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:24.100
 school reports

00:26:24.100 --> 00:26:26.180
 I think

00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:26.519
 you could

00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:27.220
 summarize my

00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:27.980
 school reports

00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:28.580
 as yes

00:26:28.580 --> 00:26:29.039
 but.

00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:31.000
 Mike

00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.019
 sets himself

00:26:32.019 --> 00:26:32.940
 extremely low

00:26:32.940 --> 00:26:33.720
 standards and

00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:34.799
 consistently fails

00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:35.380
 to achieve

00:26:35.380 --> 00:26:35.640
 them.

00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:41.220
 So these

00:26:41.220 --> 00:26:42.480
 people in

00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:43.560
 this awfully

00:26:43.560 --> 00:26:44.880
 hostile culture

00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:45.680
 were faithful

00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:46.480
 in the face

00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:47.340
 of martyrdom.

00:26:49.020 --> 00:26:49.800
 But here's

00:26:49.800 --> 00:26:50.460
 what the risen

00:26:50.460 --> 00:26:51.600
 Christ thinks

00:26:51.600 --> 00:26:52.580
 they need to

00:26:52.580 --> 00:26:53.240
 pay attention

00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:53.640
 to.

00:26:54.820 --> 00:26:55.600
 Thinks that

00:26:55.600 --> 00:26:56.660
 their balance

00:26:56.660 --> 00:26:57.440
 as the body

00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:58.160
 of Christ

00:26:58.160 --> 00:26:59.300
 is being

00:26:59.300 --> 00:27:00.340
 put out

00:27:00.340 --> 00:27:01.040
 of kilter

00:27:01.040 --> 00:27:02.640
 by these

00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:03.160
 forces.

00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:05.000
 He says

00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:05.240
 there are

00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:05.620
 some of

00:27:05.620 --> 00:27:05.960
 you who

00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:06.540
 hold to

00:27:06.540 --> 00:27:07.080
 the teaching

00:27:07.080 --> 00:27:07.759
 of Balaam

00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:08.580
 who taught

00:27:08.580 --> 00:27:09.400
 Balak to

00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:10.100
 entice the

00:27:10.100 --> 00:27:11.019
 Israelites to

00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:12.100
 sin so

00:27:12.100 --> 00:27:12.519
 that they

00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:13.060
 did two

00:27:13.060 --> 00:27:13.580
 things

00:27:13.580 --> 00:27:14.480
 unacceptable.

00:27:15.620 --> 00:27:16.200
 They ate

00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:16.840
 food that

00:27:16.840 --> 00:27:17.580
 had already

00:27:17.580 --> 00:27:18.940
 been sacrificed

00:27:18.940 --> 00:27:19.820
 to idols.

00:27:21.259 --> 00:27:21.700
 In other

00:27:21.700 --> 00:27:22.860
 words not

00:27:22.860 --> 00:27:23.600
 only Jewish

00:27:23.600 --> 00:27:24.200
 people would

00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:24.680
 find that

00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:25.420
 unclean but

00:27:25.420 --> 00:27:26.279
 Christians would

00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:26.779
 find it

00:27:26.779 --> 00:27:27.519
 unclean as

00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:27.800
 well.

00:27:29.380 --> 00:27:30.200
 And then

00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.740
 they committed

00:27:32.740 --> 00:27:33.579
 sexual

00:27:33.579 --> 00:27:34.740
 immorality.

00:27:36.980 --> 00:27:37.259
 It would

00:27:37.259 --> 00:27:37.720
 be nice to

00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.220
 say wouldn't

00:27:38.220 --> 00:27:38.700
 it that

00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:39.680
 today's church

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:40.299
 is free of

00:27:40.299 --> 00:27:40.779
 all that.

00:27:42.140 --> 00:27:42.380
 You know

00:27:42.380 --> 00:27:42.859
 we don't do

00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:43.680
 that stuff.

00:27:45.059 --> 00:27:45.460
 Except

00:27:45.460 --> 00:27:47.079
 remember you

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:47.579
 know the job

00:27:47.579 --> 00:27:48.380
 I had was

00:27:48.380 --> 00:27:49.839
 the exercise

00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:50.799
 of discipline

00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:52.940
 across 256

00:27:52.940 --> 00:27:54.000
 churches

00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.000
 in a large

00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:56.440
 area.

00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.120
 I would

00:27:59.120 --> 00:27:59.940
 love to put

00:27:59.940 --> 00:28:00.620
 my hand on

00:28:00.620 --> 00:28:01.200
 my heart

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:01.940
 and say to

00:28:01.940 --> 00:28:02.880
 you we

00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:03.299
 didn't have

00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:03.640
 any of

00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:03.940
 that.

00:28:06.779 --> 00:28:07.259
 When I was

00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:07.660
 a parish

00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:09.160
 priest I

00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:09.880
 found the

00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:10.660
 chairman of

00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:11.019
 churches

00:28:11.019 --> 00:28:11.519
 together

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:11.880
 where's

00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:12.200
 Tim?

00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:13.960
 Not him.

00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:15.500
 Chairman of

00:28:15.500 --> 00:28:15.820
 churches

00:28:15.820 --> 00:28:17.759
 together and

00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:18.500
 the secretary

00:28:18.500 --> 00:28:18.759
 of the

00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:19.620
 PCC.

00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:24.939
 I don't

00:28:24.939 --> 00:28:25.219
 quite know

00:28:25.219 --> 00:28:25.439
 how to

00:28:25.439 --> 00:28:25.939
 put this.

00:28:27.299 --> 00:28:27.699
 Let's

00:28:27.699 --> 00:28:28.119
 just say

00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:28.759
 they were

00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:29.519
 naked in

00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:29.859
 the middle

00:28:29.859 --> 00:28:30.159
 of a

00:28:30.159 --> 00:28:30.879
 wood and

00:28:30.879 --> 00:28:31.519
 my dog

00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:32.059
 discovered

00:28:32.059 --> 00:28:33.959
 them when

00:28:33.959 --> 00:28:34.179
 I was

00:28:34.179 --> 00:28:35.079
 walking with

00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:35.639
 my dog.

00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:39.159
 I had to

00:28:39.159 --> 00:28:39.459
 put my

00:28:39.459 --> 00:28:39.739
 hand on

00:28:39.739 --> 00:28:40.119
 my hand

00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:40.419
 and say

00:28:40.419 --> 00:28:40.959
 I have

00:28:40.959 --> 00:28:41.439
 come across

00:28:41.439 --> 00:28:41.899
 none of

00:28:41.899 --> 00:28:42.459
 this sexual

00:28:42.459 --> 00:28:43.039
 immorality

00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:43.399
 of the

00:28:43.399 --> 00:28:43.799
 church but

00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:44.239
 friends I

00:28:44.239 --> 00:28:44.559
 have.

00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.960
 And part

00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:47.179
 of the

00:28:47.179 --> 00:28:47.720
 problem is

00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:48.639
 our culture

00:28:48.639 --> 00:28:49.740
 is obsessed

00:28:49.740 --> 00:28:50.619
 by sex.

00:28:51.419 --> 00:28:52.119
 So much

00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:52.700
 so it

00:28:52.700 --> 00:28:53.720
 has perverted

00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:54.519
 our

00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:55.240
 understanding

00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:55.659
 of what

00:28:55.659 --> 00:28:56.200
 love is.

00:28:56.639 --> 00:28:57.220
 The Bible

00:28:57.220 --> 00:28:57.700
 word for

00:28:57.700 --> 00:28:58.200
 love is the

00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:58.960
 word agape.

00:28:59.500 --> 00:28:59.799
 You know

00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:00.079
 that.

00:29:01.500 --> 00:29:02.159
 It's a

00:29:02.159 --> 00:29:02.539
 word that

00:29:02.539 --> 00:29:03.000
 doesn't

00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.720
 primarily

00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.679
 call upon

00:29:06.679 --> 00:29:07.339
 our heart

00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:07.859
 strings.

00:29:08.339 --> 00:29:08.700
 It's not

00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:09.200
 about what

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:09.879
 we feel.

00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:10.700
 it's how

00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:11.200
 we set

00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:11.700
 our will.

00:29:13.020 --> 00:29:13.620
 How do

00:29:13.620 --> 00:29:14.120
 you think

00:29:14.120 --> 00:29:15.620
 if Jesus

00:29:15.620 --> 00:29:17.440
 said love

00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:18.520
 your enemies

00:29:18.520 --> 00:29:20.120
 how would

00:29:20.120 --> 00:29:20.660
 that work

00:29:20.660 --> 00:29:20.960
 if he

00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:21.520
 really meant

00:29:21.520 --> 00:29:22.420
 desire your

00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:22.880
 enemies?

00:29:24.040 --> 00:29:24.680
 It would

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:24.920
 be an

00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:25.540
 impossible.

00:29:26.800 --> 00:29:27.480
 No we

00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:27.820
 need to

00:29:27.820 --> 00:29:28.380
 think about

00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:29.200
 love and

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:29.740
 loving our

00:29:29.740 --> 00:29:31.020
 neighbor as

00:29:31.020 --> 00:29:31.760
 wanting the

00:29:31.760 --> 00:29:32.260
 best for

00:29:32.260 --> 00:29:32.980
 that person

00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:34.040
 even if we

00:29:34.040 --> 00:29:34.880
 don't necessarily

00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:35.580
 like them.

00:29:35.579 --> 00:29:39.779
 you know

00:29:39.779 --> 00:29:40.659
 what would

00:29:40.659 --> 00:29:41.720
 that do

00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:42.220
 to the

00:29:42.220 --> 00:29:43.480
 debate about

00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:44.379
 asylum seekers

00:29:44.379 --> 00:29:45.079
 if we fed

00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:46.159
 that understanding

00:29:46.159 --> 00:29:46.839
 of love into

00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:47.199
 that?

00:29:53.419 --> 00:29:54.019
 Look

00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:55.119
 at

00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.179
 the teaching

00:29:57.179 --> 00:29:57.679
 of Balaam

00:29:57.679 --> 00:29:58.659
 actually Balaam

00:29:58.659 --> 00:30:00.639
 it's very

00:30:00.639 --> 00:30:01.460
 interesting that

00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:01.899
 the word

00:30:01.899 --> 00:30:02.559
 Balaam

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:03.319
 the name

00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:03.899
 Balaam

00:30:03.899 --> 00:30:04.839
 and the

00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:05.339
 name

00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:07.579
 Nicolation

00:30:07.579 --> 00:30:09.059
 followers of

00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:09.919
 Nicholas.

00:30:11.639 --> 00:30:12.759
 So in

00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:13.279
 Hebrew

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.019
 the word

00:30:16.019 --> 00:30:16.480
 Balaam

00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:17.039
 is made

00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.000
 up of

00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.039
 a root

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:19.759
 word which

00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:20.220
 means to

00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:20.619
 conquer

00:30:20.619 --> 00:30:22.720
 and then

00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:23.459
 which is

00:30:23.459 --> 00:30:24.459
 balai

00:30:24.459 --> 00:30:26.279
 and then

00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:26.740
 the word

00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:27.319
 aham

00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:28.579
 which means

00:30:28.579 --> 00:30:29.859
 people.

00:30:30.399 --> 00:30:30.679
 So the

00:30:30.679 --> 00:30:31.000
 word

00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:31.839
 Balaam

00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:32.879
 means

00:30:32.879 --> 00:30:33.399
 conquering

00:30:33.399 --> 00:30:33.899
 people.

00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:35.899
 the word

00:30:35.899 --> 00:30:36.659
 Nicholas

00:30:36.659 --> 00:30:38.720
 is a

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.059
 mixture of

00:30:40.059 --> 00:30:40.559
 two other

00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:41.359
 Greek words

00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:41.959
 one is

00:30:41.959 --> 00:30:43.439
 Nikan

00:30:43.439 --> 00:30:44.480
 which means

00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.019
 to conquer

00:30:45.019 --> 00:30:46.339
 and

00:30:46.339 --> 00:30:46.899
 Laos

00:30:46.899 --> 00:30:47.879
 which means

00:30:47.879 --> 00:30:48.339
 people.

00:30:50.899 --> 00:30:51.059
 I mean

00:30:51.059 --> 00:30:51.579
 whether these

00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:52.179
 were two

00:30:52.179 --> 00:30:53.019
 distinct groups

00:30:53.019 --> 00:30:53.599
 of people

00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:54.720
 who encoded

00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:55.139
 language

00:30:55.139 --> 00:30:55.579
 remember

00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:56.419
 we said

00:30:56.419 --> 00:30:56.779
 that this

00:30:56.779 --> 00:30:57.240
 book is

00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:57.899
 apocryphal

00:30:57.899 --> 00:30:58.579
 it's written

00:30:58.579 --> 00:30:59.099
 in a hidden

00:30:59.099 --> 00:30:59.619
 language

00:30:59.619 --> 00:31:00.459
 so that

00:31:00.459 --> 00:31:01.000
 people

00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:01.699
 wouldn't

00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:02.340
 necessarily

00:31:02.340 --> 00:31:03.200
 understand it

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:03.460
 if they

00:31:03.460 --> 00:31:03.720
 didn't

00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:04.380
 know the

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:04.819
 keys to

00:31:04.819 --> 00:31:05.480
 understanding

00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:05.900
 it.

00:31:07.819 --> 00:31:08.220
 But these

00:31:08.220 --> 00:31:09.000
 two names

00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:09.480
 given to

00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:10.180
 these two

00:31:10.180 --> 00:31:10.860
 heresies

00:31:10.860 --> 00:31:12.120
 actually both

00:31:12.120 --> 00:31:12.500
 meant the

00:31:12.500 --> 00:31:12.700
 same.

00:31:12.840 --> 00:31:13.100
 They were

00:31:13.100 --> 00:31:13.700
 about

00:31:13.700 --> 00:31:14.920
 controlling

00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.279
 subjugating

00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:16.819
 people.

00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:19.380
 Is there

00:31:19.380 --> 00:31:20.279
 anything

00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:21.920
 further away

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:22.420
 from the

00:31:22.420 --> 00:31:23.620
 gospel community

00:31:23.620 --> 00:31:24.539
 than the

00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:25.180
 desire to

00:31:25.180 --> 00:31:25.640
 control

00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:26.080
 people?

00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.179
 Is there

00:31:29.179 --> 00:31:29.720
 anything

00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:30.559
 that could

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:31.359
 be worse

00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:32.079
 in a

00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:32.699
 relationship

00:31:32.699 --> 00:31:33.119
 in a

00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:33.619
 marriage

00:31:33.619 --> 00:31:34.460
 where one

00:31:34.460 --> 00:31:35.379
 person seeks

00:31:35.379 --> 00:31:36.039
 to control

00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:36.539
 the other?

00:31:40.980 --> 00:31:41.460
 And

00:31:41.460 --> 00:31:41.839
 this

00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:42.259
 these

00:31:42.259 --> 00:31:42.960
 heresies

00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:44.259
 led

00:31:44.259 --> 00:31:44.759
 people

00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:45.639
 into

00:31:45.639 --> 00:31:46.059
 very

00:31:46.059 --> 00:31:46.679
 dark

00:31:46.679 --> 00:31:47.539
 behaviors

00:31:47.539 --> 00:31:49.539
 dietary

00:31:49.539 --> 00:31:50.819
 and sexual

00:31:50.819 --> 00:31:51.619
 immorality

00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:53.259
 and the

00:31:53.259 --> 00:31:53.720
 risen

00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:54.179
 Christ

00:31:54.179 --> 00:31:54.599
 has a

00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:55.259
 very clear

00:31:55.259 --> 00:31:55.740
 message

00:31:55.740 --> 00:31:56.759
 verse 16

00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.799
 Repent

00:31:58.799 --> 00:31:59.380
 therefore

00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:01.099
 as a

00:32:01.099 --> 00:32:01.660
 consequence

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:02.720
 of this

00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.420
 collusion

00:32:04.420 --> 00:32:05.240
 with these

00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:05.819
 people in

00:32:05.819 --> 00:32:06.339
 the church

00:32:06.339 --> 00:32:07.059
 repent

00:32:07.059 --> 00:32:07.819
 of that

00:32:07.819 --> 00:32:10.500
 otherwise

00:32:10.500 --> 00:32:11.440
 I will

00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:12.000
 soon come

00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:12.259
 to you

00:32:12.259 --> 00:32:12.519
 and will

00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:13.359
 fight against

00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:13.740
 them with

00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:14.299
 the sword

00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:14.660
 of my

00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:15.120
 mouth

00:32:15.120 --> 00:32:17.579
 they will

00:32:17.579 --> 00:32:17.980
 come

00:32:17.980 --> 00:32:18.980
 under

00:32:18.980 --> 00:32:19.480
 judgment

00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.620
 and it

00:32:23.620 --> 00:32:24.000
 will be a

00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:24.640
 dark day

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:25.860
 for them

00:32:25.860 --> 00:32:27.240
 and for

00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:27.700
 the church

00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:28.040
 of God

00:32:28.040 --> 00:32:28.540
 why?

00:32:29.620 --> 00:32:30.480
 Because in

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:31.040
 their midst

00:32:31.040 --> 00:32:32.380
 they tolerated

00:32:32.380 --> 00:32:33.759
 heretical

00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:34.400
 teaching

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:35.520
 that sought

00:32:35.520 --> 00:32:36.340
 to control

00:32:36.340 --> 00:32:37.920
 the people

00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:38.440
 of God

00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.440
 rather than

00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:41.040
 the God

00:32:41.040 --> 00:32:41.540
 whom we

00:32:41.540 --> 00:32:41.940
 worship

00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:42.920
 who empowers

00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:43.380
 us

00:32:43.380 --> 00:32:44.400
 with his

00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:45.100
 Holy Spirit

00:32:45.099 --> 00:32:46.099
 God

00:32:46.099 --> 00:32:52.019
 I never

00:32:52.019 --> 00:32:52.659
 understood

00:32:52.659 --> 00:32:54.359
 years ago

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:55.139
 when I

00:32:55.139 --> 00:32:55.839
 was ordained

00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:56.480
 I was

00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:57.159
 ordained

00:32:57.159 --> 00:32:57.819
 in

00:32:57.819 --> 00:32:58.339
 Canterbury

00:32:58.339 --> 00:32:58.899
 Cathedral

00:32:58.899 --> 00:33:00.279
 I didn't

00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:00.599
 live in

00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:01.159
 Canterbury

00:33:01.159 --> 00:33:02.099
 or even

00:33:02.099 --> 00:33:02.799
 in Kent

00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:03.299
 as such

00:33:03.299 --> 00:33:04.039
 I lived

00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:04.659
 in Croydon

00:33:04.659 --> 00:33:05.839
 and the

00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:06.259
 Church of

00:33:06.259 --> 00:33:06.559
 England

00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:07.000
 with this

00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:07.419
 kind of

00:33:07.419 --> 00:33:07.779
 slightly

00:33:07.779 --> 00:33:08.379
 mixed up

00:33:08.379 --> 00:33:08.919
 thinking

00:33:08.919 --> 00:33:10.379
 made a

00:33:10.379 --> 00:33:11.740
 archdeaconry

00:33:11.740 --> 00:33:12.000
 of the

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.639
 Diocese of

00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:13.100
 Canterbury

00:33:13.100 --> 00:33:13.800
 completely

00:33:13.800 --> 00:33:14.420
 separate

00:33:14.420 --> 00:33:15.240
 from the

00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:16.480
 Diocese of

00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:17.000
 Canterbury

00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:17.940
 and there was

00:33:17.940 --> 00:33:18.560
 a reason for

00:33:18.560 --> 00:33:18.840
 that

00:33:18.840 --> 00:33:19.840
 the reason

00:33:19.840 --> 00:33:20.920
 was that

00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:21.540
 the Archbishop

00:33:21.540 --> 00:33:22.200
 of Canterbury

00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:22.820
 then had

00:33:22.820 --> 00:33:23.240
 his summer

00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:23.860
 palace

00:33:23.860 --> 00:33:24.600
 in Croydon

00:33:24.600 --> 00:33:26.120
 and it was

00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:26.580
 felt that

00:33:26.580 --> 00:33:27.140
 would be wrong

00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:27.600
 of him to

00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:27.980
 leave his

00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:28.680
 diocese when

00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:28.980
 he went

00:33:28.980 --> 00:33:29.280
 on his

00:33:29.280 --> 00:33:29.620
 holiday

00:33:29.620 --> 00:33:31.220
 so if you

00:33:31.220 --> 00:33:32.020
 can't take

00:33:32.020 --> 00:33:32.520
 Mohammed to

00:33:32.520 --> 00:33:32.980
 the mountain

00:33:32.980 --> 00:33:33.540
 move the

00:33:33.540 --> 00:33:34.120
 mountain to

00:33:34.120 --> 00:33:34.520
 Mohammed

00:33:34.520 --> 00:33:36.340
 so I was

00:33:36.340 --> 00:33:37.240
 getting ordained

00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:37.580
 there

00:33:37.579 --> 00:33:39.519
 and it

00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:39.740
 was a

00:33:39.740 --> 00:33:39.939
 great

00:33:39.939 --> 00:33:40.500
 privilege

00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:41.399
 and Donald

00:33:41.399 --> 00:33:41.819
 Coggan

00:33:41.819 --> 00:33:42.259
 was the

00:33:42.259 --> 00:33:42.740
 Archbishop

00:33:42.740 --> 00:33:43.519
 of Canterbury

00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.119
 and for

00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:45.419
 the

00:33:45.419 --> 00:33:46.099
 ordination

00:33:46.099 --> 00:33:46.720
 retreat

00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:48.079
 we were

00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:48.819
 invited to

00:33:48.819 --> 00:33:50.059
 stay in

00:33:50.059 --> 00:33:50.659
 the palace

00:33:50.659 --> 00:33:51.480
 at Canterbury

00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:51.879
 with the

00:33:51.879 --> 00:33:52.399
 Archbishop

00:33:52.399 --> 00:33:52.919
 and Mrs

00:33:52.919 --> 00:33:53.359
 Coggan

00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:53.759
 who came

00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:54.139
 down to

00:33:54.139 --> 00:33:54.519
 breakfast

00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:55.119
 every day

00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:55.319
 and we

00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:55.859
 had normal

00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:56.579
 chat over

00:33:56.579 --> 00:33:57.919
 breakfast

00:33:57.919 --> 00:33:58.759
 Coggan

00:33:58.759 --> 00:33:59.779
 was very

00:33:59.779 --> 00:34:00.519
 against the

00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:01.179
 idea of

00:34:01.179 --> 00:34:01.319
 the

00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:01.899
 ordination

00:34:01.899 --> 00:34:02.419
 retreat

00:34:02.419 --> 00:34:02.819
 as a

00:34:02.819 --> 00:34:03.279
 kind of

00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:03.819
 massive

00:34:03.819 --> 00:34:04.559
 wind up

00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:05.759
 and you

00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:05.940
 know

00:34:05.940 --> 00:34:07.259
 when they

00:34:07.259 --> 00:34:07.740
 did that

00:34:07.740 --> 00:34:08.039
 I mean

00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:08.559
 people who

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:08.739
 had been

00:34:08.739 --> 00:34:09.320
 in college

00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:09.779
 for three

00:34:09.779 --> 00:34:10.059
 years

00:34:10.059 --> 00:34:10.599
 had nervous

00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:11.279
 breakdowns

00:34:11.279 --> 00:34:11.659
 and couldn't

00:34:11.659 --> 00:34:12.079
 show up

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.659
 in the

00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:14.639
 cathedral

00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:15.259
 on the

00:34:15.259 --> 00:34:15.739
 Sunday

00:34:15.739 --> 00:34:16.199
 morning

00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:16.559
 they were

00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:16.940
 so

00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:17.759
 mentally

00:34:17.759 --> 00:34:18.619
 disturbed

00:34:18.619 --> 00:34:19.880
 by it

00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:20.279
 Coggan

00:34:20.279 --> 00:34:20.639
 was very

00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:21.059
 relaxed

00:34:21.059 --> 00:34:22.840
 and it

00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:23.420
 was just

00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:23.739
 at the

00:34:23.739 --> 00:34:24.199
 time

00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.119
 that the

00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:26.880
 Bishop of

00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:27.239
 Durham

00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:28.480
 had declared

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.559
 that there

00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:30.900
 was no

00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:31.500
 such thing

00:34:31.500 --> 00:34:31.820
 as a

00:34:31.820 --> 00:34:32.199
 physical

00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:32.799
 resurrection

00:34:32.799 --> 00:34:33.420
 of Jesus

00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:33.699
 do you

00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:33.900
 remember

00:34:33.900 --> 00:34:34.179
 that

00:34:34.179 --> 00:34:36.199
 and it

00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:36.739
 was terrible

00:34:36.739 --> 00:34:37.279
 you know

00:34:37.279 --> 00:34:38.599
 harush over

00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:38.899
 that

00:34:38.899 --> 00:34:39.460
 and quite

00:34:39.460 --> 00:34:40.099
 rightly so

00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:40.559
 in many

00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:40.899
 ways

00:34:40.899 --> 00:34:42.259
 and some

00:34:42.259 --> 00:34:44.299
 upstart

00:34:44.299 --> 00:34:44.659
 of an

00:34:44.659 --> 00:34:45.379
 ordinand

00:34:45.379 --> 00:34:46.739
 not like

00:34:46.739 --> 00:34:47.079
 me

00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.359
 said to the

00:34:49.359 --> 00:34:49.679
 Archbishop

00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:50.239
 across the

00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:50.539
 table

00:34:50.539 --> 00:34:51.419
 so are you

00:34:51.419 --> 00:34:51.699
 going to

00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:52.159
 throw him

00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:52.679
 out then

00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.679
 my Archbishop

00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:55.399
 choked over

00:34:55.399 --> 00:34:56.039
 his boiled

00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:56.339
 egg

00:34:56.339 --> 00:34:58.159
 and said

00:34:58.159 --> 00:34:58.980
 well I have

00:34:58.980 --> 00:34:59.579
 no means

00:34:59.579 --> 00:34:59.960
 to throw

00:34:59.960 --> 00:35:00.339
 him out

00:35:00.339 --> 00:35:03.259
 and

00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:04.780
 the upstart

00:35:04.780 --> 00:35:05.820
 ordinand

00:35:05.820 --> 00:35:07.780
 said what

00:35:07.780 --> 00:35:08.000
 do you

00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:08.320
 mean

00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:08.840
 he said

00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:10.720
 there's

00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:11.480
 been a

00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:12.260
 studious

00:35:12.260 --> 00:35:12.800
 attempt

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.380
 in the

00:35:14.380 --> 00:35:14.860
 church's

00:35:14.860 --> 00:35:15.560
 disciplinary

00:35:15.560 --> 00:35:16.120
 measures

00:35:16.120 --> 00:35:16.940
 to avoid

00:35:16.940 --> 00:35:17.780
 any

00:35:17.780 --> 00:35:18.520
 disciplinary

00:35:18.520 --> 00:35:19.000
 measure

00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:20.960
 which would

00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:21.500
 involve

00:35:21.500 --> 00:35:22.340
 wrong teaching

00:35:22.340 --> 00:35:23.040
 or heresy

00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.860
 that bit

00:35:25.860 --> 00:35:26.880
 of legislation

00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:27.400
 I think

00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:27.900
 put together

00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:28.960
 in 1972

00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.259
 was replaced

00:35:31.259 --> 00:35:32.960
 at the end

00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:33.199
 of the

00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:34.320
 1990s

00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.539
 which came

00:35:35.539 --> 00:35:36.159
 into force

00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:36.480
 I think

00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.619
 in 2002

00:35:37.619 --> 00:35:38.579
 called the

00:35:38.579 --> 00:35:38.880
 clergy

00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:39.480
 discipline

00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:39.920
 measure

00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.619
 I mean

00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:43.200
 you can

00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:43.800
 get thrown

00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:44.139
 out of

00:35:44.139 --> 00:35:44.539
 the church

00:35:44.539 --> 00:35:44.980
 of England

00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:45.639
 if you

00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:46.300
 baptise

00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:46.680
 somebody

00:35:46.680 --> 00:35:47.200
 twice

00:35:47.200 --> 00:35:49.420
 but you

00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:49.880
 can deny

00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:50.760
 the resurrection

00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.800
 or say

00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:52.599
 that Christianity

00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:53.380
 from next

00:35:53.380 --> 00:35:54.019
 week onwards

00:35:54.019 --> 00:35:54.340
 will be

00:35:54.340 --> 00:35:55.320
 about nudity

00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:56.880
 and nobody

00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:57.240
 can do

00:35:57.240 --> 00:35:57.500
 anything

00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:58.260
 about it

00:35:58.260 --> 00:36:01.200
 it's amazing

00:36:01.200 --> 00:36:01.619
 isn't it

00:36:01.619 --> 00:36:02.019
 I mean

00:36:02.019 --> 00:36:03.880
 I was one

00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:04.159
 of them

00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:04.480
 you know

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:05.059
 still am

00:36:05.059 --> 00:36:05.420
 I mean

00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:08.420
 so

00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:09.780
 the issue

00:36:09.780 --> 00:36:10.300
 of how

00:36:10.300 --> 00:36:10.659
 do we

00:36:10.659 --> 00:36:11.200
 tackle

00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:11.960
 in our

00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:12.460
 churches

00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:13.380
 wrong teaching

00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:15.340
 I think

00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:15.639
 is an

00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:16.139
 interesting

00:36:16.139 --> 00:36:16.559
 one

00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.000
 who

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:18.880
 adjudicates

00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:19.360
 what is

00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.099
 wrong teaching

00:36:20.099 --> 00:36:22.159
 who decides

00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:22.720
 on that

00:36:22.720 --> 00:36:25.240
 and the

00:36:25.240 --> 00:36:25.840
 Roman Catholic

00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:26.420
 Church

00:36:26.420 --> 00:36:28.180
 has a

00:36:28.180 --> 00:36:29.200
 magisterium

00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:29.740
 that does

00:36:29.740 --> 00:36:30.440
 make decisions

00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:31.079
 about these

00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:31.360
 things

00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:31.780
 and you

00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:31.900
 know

00:36:31.900 --> 00:36:32.280
 I mean

00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.820
 who's the

00:36:34.820 --> 00:36:35.200
 German

00:36:35.200 --> 00:36:35.820
 cardinal

00:36:35.820 --> 00:36:36.720
 who got

00:36:36.720 --> 00:36:37.159
 made

00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:38.200
 the Pope

00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:39.460
 retired

00:36:39.460 --> 00:36:39.939
 early

00:36:39.939 --> 00:36:41.179
 Ratzinger

00:36:41.179 --> 00:36:43.419
 I thought

00:36:43.419 --> 00:36:44.019
 Ratzinger

00:36:44.019 --> 00:36:44.339
 I mean

00:36:44.339 --> 00:36:44.599
 he's a

00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:44.939
 highly

00:36:44.939 --> 00:36:45.619
 cultured

00:36:45.619 --> 00:36:45.839
 and

00:36:45.839 --> 00:36:46.539
 intellectual

00:36:46.539 --> 00:36:46.980
 man

00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:47.339
 as a

00:36:47.339 --> 00:36:47.539
 matter

00:36:47.539 --> 00:36:48.079
 of fact

00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:48.939
 but he

00:36:48.939 --> 00:36:49.239
 was kind

00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:49.679
 of hired

00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:50.139
 by the

00:36:50.139 --> 00:36:50.399
 Pope

00:36:50.399 --> 00:36:50.719
 as a

00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:51.119
 sort of

00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:51.339
 you know

00:36:51.339 --> 00:36:51.899
 the Pope's

00:36:51.899 --> 00:36:52.319
 kind of

00:36:52.319 --> 00:36:53.059
 attack dog

00:36:53.059 --> 00:36:54.359
 to any

00:36:54.359 --> 00:36:54.919
 province

00:36:54.919 --> 00:36:55.399
 of the

00:36:55.399 --> 00:36:56.319
 Roman Catholic

00:36:56.319 --> 00:36:56.859
 Church

00:36:56.859 --> 00:36:58.460
 that decided

00:36:58.460 --> 00:36:59.639
 to go off

00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:00.199
 on its own

00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:00.779
 and teach

00:37:00.779 --> 00:37:01.259
 things that

00:37:01.259 --> 00:37:01.659
 the church

00:37:01.659 --> 00:37:01.960
 found

00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:02.699
 unacceptable

00:37:02.699 --> 00:37:03.339
 you may

00:37:03.339 --> 00:37:03.739
 remember

00:37:03.739 --> 00:37:04.119
 there was

00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:05.219
 quite a lot

00:37:05.219 --> 00:37:05.819
 of press

00:37:05.819 --> 00:37:06.279
 in that

00:37:06.279 --> 00:37:07.439
 the Roman

00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:07.860
 Catholic

00:37:07.860 --> 00:37:08.440
 Church's

00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:09.000
 resistance

00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:09.599
 to

00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.420
 same

00:37:11.420 --> 00:37:11.800
 sex

00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:12.820
 relationships

00:37:12.820 --> 00:37:14.240
 drew a

00:37:14.240 --> 00:37:14.480
 lot of

00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:15.079
 attention

00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:16.880
 to the

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:17.500
 count

00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:17.780
 I think

00:37:17.780 --> 00:37:18.380
 it's got

00:37:18.380 --> 00:37:18.579
 some

00:37:18.579 --> 00:37:19.179
 very

00:37:19.179 --> 00:37:20.420
 highfalutin

00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:20.740
 term

00:37:20.740 --> 00:37:21.280
 the council

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:21.780
 that looks

00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:22.179
 at all

00:37:22.179 --> 00:37:22.460
 this

00:37:22.460 --> 00:37:23.360
 and the

00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:23.720
 Church of

00:37:23.720 --> 00:37:23.940
 England

00:37:23.940 --> 00:37:24.340
 doesn't

00:37:24.340 --> 00:37:24.940
 have that

00:37:24.940 --> 00:37:26.039
 and I

00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:26.220
 think

00:37:26.220 --> 00:37:26.900
 independent

00:37:26.900 --> 00:37:27.480
 churches

00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:28.360
 probably would

00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:28.920
 struggle to

00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:29.260
 work out

00:37:29.260 --> 00:37:29.700
 well who

00:37:29.700 --> 00:37:30.019
 would be

00:37:30.019 --> 00:37:30.800
 responsible

00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.660
 for

00:37:32.660 --> 00:37:34.080
 dealing

00:37:34.080 --> 00:37:34.660
 with

00:37:34.660 --> 00:37:35.180
 wrong

00:37:35.180 --> 00:37:35.700
 teaching

00:37:35.700 --> 00:37:38.160
 I

00:37:38.160 --> 00:37:39.820
 mean you

00:37:39.820 --> 00:37:40.240
 might say

00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:40.720
 the senior

00:37:40.720 --> 00:37:41.120
 pastor

00:37:41.120 --> 00:37:41.460
 that's

00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:41.740
 okay

00:37:41.740 --> 00:37:42.060
 as long

00:37:42.060 --> 00:37:42.320
 as it's

00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:42.620
 not the

00:37:42.620 --> 00:37:42.900
 senior

00:37:42.900 --> 00:37:43.420
 pastor

00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:43.640
 who's

00:37:43.640 --> 00:37:43.800
 doing

00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:44.140
 the wrong

00:37:44.140 --> 00:37:44.640
 teaching

00:37:44.640 --> 00:37:47.360
 but

00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:48.060
 surely

00:37:48.060 --> 00:37:49.760
 surely

00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:50.340
 you can't

00:37:50.340 --> 00:37:51.060
 read this

00:37:51.060 --> 00:37:51.820
 letter to

00:37:51.820 --> 00:37:52.340
 Pergamum

00:37:52.340 --> 00:37:52.600
 without

00:37:52.600 --> 00:37:53.200
 thinking

00:37:53.200 --> 00:37:54.260
 there ought

00:37:54.260 --> 00:37:54.580
 to be

00:37:54.580 --> 00:37:55.039
 some

00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:55.640
 mechanism

00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.079
 to stop

00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:57.400
 people

00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:57.679
 just

00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:58.099
 turning

00:37:58.099 --> 00:37:58.559
 up in

00:37:58.559 --> 00:37:58.940
 churches

00:37:58.940 --> 00:38:00.059
 and teaching

00:38:00.059 --> 00:38:00.400
 what the

00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:00.739
 hell they

00:38:00.739 --> 00:38:01.159
 like

00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:02.819
 I mean

00:38:02.819 --> 00:38:03.139
 does that

00:38:03.139 --> 00:38:03.639
 seem mad

00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:04.039
 to you

00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:09.920
 so

00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.920
 they were

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:12.599
 called to

00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:13.079
 repentance

00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:14.859
 and

00:38:14.859 --> 00:38:15.500
 then

00:38:15.500 --> 00:38:16.159
 the risen

00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:16.659
 Christ

00:38:16.659 --> 00:38:17.420
 says to

00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:17.599
 them

00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:17.980
 I will

00:38:17.980 --> 00:38:18.440
 soon

00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:18.980
 come to

00:38:18.980 --> 00:38:19.079
 you

00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:19.480
 if you

00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:19.739
 don't

00:38:19.739 --> 00:38:19.920
 do

00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:20.199
 this

00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:20.480
 if you

00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:20.739
 don't

00:38:20.739 --> 00:38:21.079
 repent

00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:21.599
 I'll

00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:21.799
 soon

00:38:21.799 --> 00:38:22.159
 come to

00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:22.219
 you

00:38:22.219 --> 00:38:22.319
 and

00:38:22.319 --> 00:38:22.480
 we'll

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:22.739
 fight

00:38:22.739 --> 00:38:23.119
 against

00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:23.279
 them

00:38:23.279 --> 00:38:23.420
 with

00:38:23.420 --> 00:38:23.619
 the

00:38:23.619 --> 00:38:23.879
 sword

00:38:23.879 --> 00:38:24.199
 in my

00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:24.579
 mouth

00:38:24.579 --> 00:38:27.219
 verse

00:38:27.219 --> 00:38:27.699
 17

00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:27.980
 whoever

00:38:27.980 --> 00:38:28.279
 has

00:38:28.279 --> 00:38:28.639
 ears

00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:28.860
 let

00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:29.099
 them

00:38:29.099 --> 00:38:29.460
 hear

00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:29.659
 what

00:38:29.659 --> 00:38:29.860
 the

00:38:29.860 --> 00:38:30.159
 spirit

00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:30.519
 says

00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:30.699
 to

00:38:30.699 --> 00:38:30.880
 the

00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:31.319
 churches

00:38:31.319 --> 00:38:32.219
 may

00:38:32.219 --> 00:38:32.460
 that

00:38:32.460 --> 00:38:32.739
 be

00:38:32.739 --> 00:38:33.119
 our

00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:33.420
 prayer

00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:33.840
 friends

00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:34.239
 as we

00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:34.500
 meet

00:38:34.500 --> 00:38:34.900
 together

00:38:34.900 --> 00:38:35.259
 in this

00:38:35.259 --> 00:38:35.559
 Lent

00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:35.960
 season

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.039
 that the

00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:38.380
 church

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:38.860
 today

00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:40.279
 in the

00:38:40.279 --> 00:38:40.840
 light of

00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:41.139
 this

00:38:41.139 --> 00:38:42.299
 antagonistic

00:38:42.299 --> 00:38:42.920
 culture

00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:44.799
 might be

00:38:44.799 --> 00:38:45.159
 really

00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:45.840
 attuned

00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:46.659
 to what

00:38:46.659 --> 00:38:46.860
 the

00:38:46.860 --> 00:38:47.159
 spirit

00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:47.539
 says

00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:47.779
 to

00:38:47.779 --> 00:38:48.099
 us

00:38:48.099 --> 00:38:50.319
 and

00:38:50.319 --> 00:38:50.619
 then

00:38:50.619 --> 00:38:52.539
 a

00:38:52.539 --> 00:38:53.319
 common

00:38:53.319 --> 00:38:53.699
 theme

00:38:53.699 --> 00:38:54.099
 in these

00:38:54.099 --> 00:38:54.519
 letters

00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:54.960
 the

00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:55.420
 promise

00:38:55.420 --> 00:38:56.000
 to

00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:56.179
 the

00:38:56.179 --> 00:38:56.420
 one

00:38:56.420 --> 00:38:56.559
 who

00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:56.679
 is

00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:57.159
 victorious

00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:57.480
 I

00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:57.639
 will

00:38:57.639 --> 00:38:57.860
 give

00:38:57.860 --> 00:38:58.159
 some

00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:58.300
 of

00:38:58.300 --> 00:38:58.420
 the

00:38:58.420 --> 00:38:58.699
 hidden

00:38:58.699 --> 00:38:59.079
 manner

00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.400
 and

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:00.579
 this

00:39:00.579 --> 00:39:00.780
 is

00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:01.239
 a

00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:01.519
 rather

00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:01.900
 kind

00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:02.039
 of

00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:02.739
 curious

00:39:02.739 --> 00:39:03.519
 legend

00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:03.800
 that

00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:04.199
 grew up

00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:04.460
 within

00:39:04.460 --> 00:39:05.139
 Judaism

00:39:05.139 --> 00:39:05.579
 and

00:39:05.579 --> 00:39:06.699
 as far

00:39:06.699 --> 00:39:06.920
 as we

00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:07.079
 can

00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:07.380
 tell

00:39:07.380 --> 00:39:07.519
 it

00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:07.759
 doesn't

00:39:07.759 --> 00:39:07.980
 have

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:08.599
 much

00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:09.840
 authenticity

00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.920
 in

00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:11.420
 history

00:39:11.420 --> 00:39:12.639
 but

00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:13.099
 what

00:39:13.099 --> 00:39:14.559
 was

00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:14.920
 thought

00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:15.519
 happened

00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:15.880
 was

00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:16.239
 that

00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:17.579
 you

00:39:17.579 --> 00:39:17.900
 remember

00:39:17.900 --> 00:39:18.300
 when the

00:39:18.300 --> 00:39:18.559
 Jews

00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:18.800
 were in

00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:18.940
 the

00:39:18.940 --> 00:39:19.300
 wilderness

00:39:19.300 --> 00:39:19.579
 you

00:39:19.579 --> 00:39:19.739
 can

00:39:19.739 --> 00:39:19.940
 read

00:39:19.940 --> 00:39:20.239
 about

00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:20.400
 it

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:20.539
 in

00:39:20.539 --> 00:39:20.679
 the

00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:20.940
 book

00:39:20.940 --> 00:39:21.099
 of

00:39:21.099 --> 00:39:21.539
 numbers

00:39:21.539 --> 00:39:23.920
 they

00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:24.300
 were

00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:25.500
 complained

00:39:25.500 --> 00:39:25.699
 that

00:39:25.699 --> 00:39:25.779
 they

00:39:25.779 --> 00:39:25.960
 didn't

00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:26.139
 get

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:26.360
 any

00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:26.639
 food

00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:26.840
 so

00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:27.099
 God

00:39:27.099 --> 00:39:27.659
 supplied

00:39:27.659 --> 00:39:27.940
 them

00:39:27.940 --> 00:39:28.199
 with

00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:28.480
 this

00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:28.940
 stuff

00:39:28.940 --> 00:39:29.159
 that

00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:29.440
 came

00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:29.860
 down

00:39:29.860 --> 00:39:30.699
 every

00:39:30.699 --> 00:39:31.219
 morning

00:39:31.219 --> 00:39:32.559
 and

00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:33.519
 it

00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:33.639
 was

00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:33.900
 called

00:39:33.900 --> 00:39:34.320
 manna

00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:35.559
 and

00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:35.739
 they

00:39:35.739 --> 00:39:35.920
 were

00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:36.420
 told

00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:37.860
 this

00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:38.019
 is

00:39:38.019 --> 00:39:38.199
 your

00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:38.699
 provision

00:39:38.699 --> 00:39:39.199
 and

00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:39.500
 of

00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:39.840
 course

00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:40.659
 like

00:39:40.659 --> 00:39:41.199
 the

00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:41.519
 human

00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:41.960
 beings

00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:42.239
 right

00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:43.119
 so

00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:43.380
 they

00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:43.539
 got

00:39:43.539 --> 00:39:43.820
 sick

00:39:43.820 --> 00:39:43.940
 of

00:39:43.940 --> 00:39:44.119
 this

00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:44.380
 manna

00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:44.480
 I

00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:44.599
 don't

00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:44.679
 think

00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:44.719
 it

00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:44.800
 was

00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:45.340
 particularly

00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:46.380
 nice

00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:46.579
 to

00:39:46.579 --> 00:39:46.779
 eat

00:39:46.780 --> 00:39:47.140
 it

00:39:47.140 --> 00:39:47.320
 was

00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:47.740
 probably

00:39:47.740 --> 00:39:47.980
 good

00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:48.480
 protein

00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:48.780
 but

00:39:48.780 --> 00:39:49.019
 that's

00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:49.180
 all

00:39:49.180 --> 00:39:49.300
 you

00:39:49.300 --> 00:39:49.440
 could

00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:49.680
 say

00:39:49.680 --> 00:39:50.040
 about

00:39:50.040 --> 00:39:50.260
 it

00:39:50.260 --> 00:39:54.200
 and

00:39:54.200 --> 00:39:55.700
 the

00:39:55.700 --> 00:39:56.120
 idea

00:39:56.120 --> 00:39:56.840
 was

00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:57.100
 that

00:39:57.100 --> 00:39:57.380
 when

00:39:57.380 --> 00:39:57.680
 the

00:39:57.680 --> 00:39:58.000
 temple

00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:58.220
 was

00:39:58.220 --> 00:39:58.620
 built

00:39:58.620 --> 00:39:59.040
 a little

00:39:59.040 --> 00:39:59.300
 bit

00:39:59.300 --> 00:39:59.420
 of

00:39:59.420 --> 00:39:59.600
 that

00:39:59.600 --> 00:39:59.980
 manna

00:39:59.980 --> 00:40:00.200
 was

00:40:00.200 --> 00:40:00.480
 put

00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:00.720
 into

00:40:00.720 --> 00:40:00.920
 a

00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:01.160
 pot

00:40:01.160 --> 00:40:01.420
 and

00:40:01.420 --> 00:40:01.800
 taken

00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:02.080
 into

00:40:02.080 --> 00:40:02.260
 the

00:40:02.260 --> 00:40:02.620
 temple

00:40:02.620 --> 00:40:02.920
 into

00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:03.160
 the

00:40:03.160 --> 00:40:03.620
 holiest

00:40:03.620 --> 00:40:03.800
 of

00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:04.260
 holies

00:40:04.260 --> 00:40:04.780
 where

00:40:04.780 --> 00:40:04.880
 it

00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:05.019
 was

00:40:05.019 --> 00:40:05.420
 kept

00:40:05.420 --> 00:40:05.900
 in

00:40:05.900 --> 00:40:06.040
 the

00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:06.640
 tabernacle

00:40:06.640 --> 00:40:09.420
 and

00:40:09.420 --> 00:40:09.800
 alongside

00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:10.160
 the

00:40:10.160 --> 00:40:10.500
 legend

00:40:10.500 --> 00:40:10.700
 there

00:40:10.700 --> 00:40:11.040
 arose

00:40:11.040 --> 00:40:11.280
 this

00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:11.880
 idea

00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:12.320
 that

00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:12.940
 on

00:40:12.940 --> 00:40:13.220
 a

00:40:13.220 --> 00:40:13.420
 day

00:40:13.420 --> 00:40:13.900
 appointed

00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:14.220
 by

00:40:14.220 --> 00:40:14.880
 God

00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.000
 that

00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:17.300
 pot

00:40:17.300 --> 00:40:17.480
 could

00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:17.680
 be

00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:17.980
 opened

00:40:17.980 --> 00:40:18.180
 and

00:40:18.180 --> 00:40:18.340
 the

00:40:18.340 --> 00:40:18.599
 manna

00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:18.780
 could

00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:18.960
 be

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:19.260
 eaten

00:40:19.260 --> 00:40:19.480
 I

00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:19.619
 mean

00:40:19.619 --> 00:40:19.820
 I

00:40:19.820 --> 00:40:20.039
 think

00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:20.220
 you

00:40:20.220 --> 00:40:20.400
 would

00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:20.579
 be

00:40:20.579 --> 00:40:20.940
 rushed

00:40:20.940 --> 00:40:21.220
 straight

00:40:21.220 --> 00:40:21.440
 off

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:21.599
 to

00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:21.760
 the

00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:22.200
 emergency

00:40:22.200 --> 00:40:22.619
 room

00:40:22.619 --> 00:40:24.500
 according to

00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:25.019
 numbers

00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:25.640
 the thing

00:40:25.640 --> 00:40:26.099
 went off

00:40:26.099 --> 00:40:26.400
 over a

00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:27.079
 24 hour

00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:27.500
 period

00:40:27.500 --> 00:40:27.960
 they were

00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:28.160
 told

00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:28.579
 not to

00:40:28.579 --> 00:40:28.920
 store

00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:29.140
 it

00:40:29.140 --> 00:40:30.180
 because

00:40:30.180 --> 00:40:30.360
 it

00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:30.539
 did

00:40:30.539 --> 00:40:30.760
 go

00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:30.980
 off

00:40:30.980 --> 00:40:31.160
 and

00:40:31.160 --> 00:40:32.000
 it

00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:32.260
 used

00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:32.400
 a

00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:32.720
 very

00:40:32.720 --> 00:40:34.019
 robust

00:40:34.019 --> 00:40:34.460
 language

00:40:34.460 --> 00:40:34.920
 if you

00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:35.180
 leave

00:40:35.180 --> 00:40:35.280
 it

00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:35.500
 over

00:40:35.500 --> 00:40:35.960
 24

00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:36.320
 hours

00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:36.440
 it

00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:36.559
 will

00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:36.960
 stink

00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.900
 it

00:40:38.900 --> 00:40:39.200
 is

00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:39.320
 a

00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:39.980
 bit

00:40:39.980 --> 00:40:40.180
 like

00:40:40.180 --> 00:40:40.519
 fish

00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:40.700
 or

00:40:40.700 --> 00:40:40.980
 something

00:40:40.980 --> 00:40:41.200
 I

00:40:41.200 --> 00:40:41.300
 don't

00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:41.559
 know

00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:42.780
 but

00:40:42.780 --> 00:40:43.100
 you know

00:40:43.100 --> 00:40:43.340
 not

00:40:43.340 --> 00:40:43.760
 pleasant

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:44.040
 so

00:40:44.040 --> 00:40:44.240
 the

00:40:44.240 --> 00:40:45.680
 idea

00:40:45.680 --> 00:40:46.180
 was

00:40:46.180 --> 00:40:46.560
 that

00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:48.180
 the

00:40:48.180 --> 00:40:49.080
 promise

00:40:49.080 --> 00:40:49.640
 here

00:40:49.640 --> 00:40:50.720
 relates

00:40:50.720 --> 00:40:50.920
 to

00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:51.080
 the

00:40:51.080 --> 00:40:51.580
 time

00:40:51.580 --> 00:40:52.480
 that

00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.320
 some

00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:54.660
 of that

00:40:54.660 --> 00:40:55.019
 hidden

00:40:55.019 --> 00:40:55.420
 manna

00:40:55.420 --> 00:40:55.860
 would be

00:40:55.860 --> 00:40:56.260
 given

00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:56.740
 to the

00:40:56.740 --> 00:40:57.000
 people

00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:57.440
 of God

00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.160
 and

00:40:59.160 --> 00:40:59.360
 when

00:40:59.360 --> 00:40:59.660
 they were

00:40:59.660 --> 00:41:00.019
 given

00:41:00.019 --> 00:41:00.400
 that

00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:01.660
 manna

00:41:01.660 --> 00:41:01.940
 it

00:41:01.940 --> 00:41:02.260
 would

00:41:02.260 --> 00:41:03.120
 reinforce

00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:03.580
 the

00:41:03.580 --> 00:41:04.080
 idea

00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:05.860
 that

00:41:05.860 --> 00:41:07.000
 they

00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:07.180
 were

00:41:07.180 --> 00:41:07.440
 being

00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:08.079
 rewarded

00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:08.380
 for

00:41:08.380 --> 00:41:09.039
 overcoming

00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:10.360
 what

00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:10.539
 had

00:41:10.539 --> 00:41:10.760
 gone

00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:11.160
 before

00:41:11.160 --> 00:41:11.360
 in

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:11.539
 the

00:41:11.539 --> 00:41:11.980
 church

00:41:11.980 --> 00:41:12.680
 and

00:41:12.680 --> 00:41:13.260
 prevailing

00:41:13.260 --> 00:41:15.000
 and

00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:15.180
 then

00:41:15.180 --> 00:41:15.380
 there's

00:41:15.380 --> 00:41:15.519
 this

00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:15.740
 other

00:41:15.740 --> 00:41:16.280
 promise

00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:16.680
 the

00:41:16.680 --> 00:41:16.920
 white

00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:17.539
 stone

00:41:17.539 --> 00:41:19.220
 and

00:41:19.220 --> 00:41:20.940
 my

00:41:20.940 --> 00:41:21.559
 friend

00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:21.880
 John

00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:22.340
 Angle

00:41:22.340 --> 00:41:22.700
 walked

00:41:22.700 --> 00:41:22.940
 into

00:41:22.940 --> 00:41:23.300
 church

00:41:23.300 --> 00:41:23.700
 tonight

00:41:23.700 --> 00:41:24.120
 and

00:41:24.120 --> 00:41:24.519
 said

00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:24.700
 to

00:41:24.700 --> 00:41:24.920
 me

00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:25.800
 I've

00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:25.920
 got

00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:26.059
 a

00:41:26.059 --> 00:41:26.240
 white

00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:26.620
 stone

00:41:26.620 --> 00:41:26.840
 with

00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:27.000
 me

00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:27.180
 and

00:41:27.180 --> 00:41:27.599
 proceeded

00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:27.860
 to

00:41:27.860 --> 00:41:28.099
 tell

00:41:28.099 --> 00:41:28.420
 me

00:41:28.420 --> 00:41:29.059
 the

00:41:29.059 --> 00:41:29.539
 story

00:41:29.539 --> 00:41:29.820
 that

00:41:29.820 --> 00:41:30.019
 lay

00:41:30.019 --> 00:41:30.480
 behind

00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:30.720
 that

00:41:30.720 --> 00:41:31.000
 white

00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:31.460
 stone

00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:32.820
 and

00:41:32.820 --> 00:41:34.079
 so

00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:34.320
 I

00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:34.539
 just

00:41:34.539 --> 00:41:34.720
 said

00:41:34.720 --> 00:41:34.900
 to

00:41:34.900 --> 00:41:35.160
 John

00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:35.420
 would

00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:35.519
 you

00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:35.839
 stand

00:41:35.839 --> 00:41:36.000
 up

00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:36.139
 and

00:41:36.139 --> 00:41:36.339
 just

00:41:36.339 --> 00:41:36.759
 say

00:41:36.759 --> 00:41:39.859
 you

00:41:39.859 --> 00:41:40.039
 might

00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:40.239
 have

00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:40.379
 to

00:41:40.379 --> 00:41:41.699
 speak

00:41:41.699 --> 00:41:42.099
 loud

00:41:42.099 --> 00:41:42.579
 I

00:41:42.579 --> 00:41:42.759
 knew

00:41:42.759 --> 00:41:42.940
 that

00:41:42.940 --> 00:41:43.059
 it

00:41:43.059 --> 00:41:43.219
 was

00:41:43.219 --> 00:41:44.359
 talking

00:41:44.359 --> 00:41:44.699
 about

00:41:44.699 --> 00:41:45.099
 a

00:41:45.099 --> 00:41:45.480
 white

00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:45.819
 stone

00:41:45.819 --> 00:41:46.039
 in

00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:46.699
 Pergamum

00:41:46.699 --> 00:41:47.639
 tonight

00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:48.460
 and I

00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:48.679
 just

00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:49.119
 picked

00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:49.319
 this

00:41:49.319 --> 00:41:49.500
 up

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:49.679
 off

00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:49.819
 the

00:41:49.819 --> 00:41:50.099
 shelf

00:41:50.099 --> 00:41:50.339
 which

00:41:50.339 --> 00:41:50.500
 I

00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:50.819
 keep

00:41:50.819 --> 00:41:51.319
 in

00:41:51.319 --> 00:41:51.480
 my

00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:51.819
 study

00:41:51.819 --> 00:41:52.879
 in

00:41:52.879 --> 00:41:53.019
 the

00:41:53.019 --> 00:41:54.219
 1990s

00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:54.440
 I

00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:54.579
 was

00:41:54.579 --> 00:41:55.039
 worshipping

00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:55.279
 at

00:41:55.279 --> 00:41:55.440
 St.

00:41:55.500 --> 00:41:55.940
 Andrews

00:41:55.940 --> 00:41:56.039
 as

00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:56.219
 some

00:41:56.219 --> 00:41:56.399
 people

00:41:56.399 --> 00:41:56.799
 know

00:41:56.799 --> 00:41:57.920
 and

00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:58.079
 I

00:41:58.079 --> 00:41:58.319
 felt

00:41:58.319 --> 00:41:58.639
 called

00:41:58.639 --> 00:41:58.819
 to

00:41:58.819 --> 00:41:59.219
 ministry

00:41:59.219 --> 00:42:00.839
 and

00:42:00.839 --> 00:42:01.379
 Bishop

00:42:01.379 --> 00:42:01.759
 Jim

00:42:01.759 --> 00:42:02.159
 as

00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:02.399
 was

00:42:02.399 --> 00:42:02.679
 then

00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:03.659
 he

00:42:03.659 --> 00:42:04.219
 decided

00:42:04.219 --> 00:42:04.639
 that

00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:05.039
 yes

00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:05.239
 he

00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:05.420
 would

00:42:05.420 --> 00:42:05.679
 send

00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:05.940
 me

00:42:05.940 --> 00:42:06.259
 to

00:42:06.259 --> 00:42:06.559
 a

00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:06.960
 conference

00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.380
 where

00:42:08.380 --> 00:42:09.179
 I

00:42:09.179 --> 00:42:09.380
 would

00:42:09.380 --> 00:42:09.659
 be

00:42:09.659 --> 00:42:10.320
 assessed

00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.779
 as to

00:42:11.779 --> 00:42:12.000
 whether

00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:12.320
 I

00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:12.519
 was

00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:12.900
 suitable

00:42:12.900 --> 00:42:13.139
 to

00:42:13.139 --> 00:42:13.320
 go

00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:13.739
 forward

00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:13.940
 for

00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:14.420
 ministry

00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:15.960
 I

00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:16.099
 was

00:42:16.099 --> 00:42:16.420
 walking

00:42:16.420 --> 00:42:16.659
 around

00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:16.820
 the

00:42:16.820 --> 00:42:17.280
 garden

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:17.760
 in

00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:18.019
 this

00:42:18.019 --> 00:42:18.579
 residential

00:42:18.579 --> 00:42:19.180
 place

00:42:19.180 --> 00:42:20.139
 prior

00:42:20.139 --> 00:42:20.619
 to

00:42:20.619 --> 00:42:21.539
 the

00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:21.900
 conference

00:42:21.900 --> 00:42:22.260
 taking

00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:22.780
 place

00:42:22.780 --> 00:42:24.139
 and

00:42:24.139 --> 00:42:24.440
 I

00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:24.700
 bent

00:42:24.700 --> 00:42:25.139
 down

00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:25.659
 and I

00:42:25.659 --> 00:42:25.960
 picked

00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:26.300
 up

00:42:26.300 --> 00:42:26.960
 a stone

00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:28.460
 this

00:42:28.460 --> 00:42:29.079
 white

00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:29.720
 stone

00:42:29.720 --> 00:42:31.400
 I

00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:31.760
 put it

00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:31.940
 in my

00:42:31.940 --> 00:42:32.260
 pocket

00:42:32.260 --> 00:42:34.460
 and I

00:42:34.460 --> 00:42:34.860
 went back

00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:35.180
 to my

00:42:35.180 --> 00:42:35.559
 room

00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.299
 and

00:42:37.299 --> 00:42:37.659
 then I

00:42:37.659 --> 00:42:38.059
 suddenly

00:42:38.059 --> 00:42:38.799
 realised

00:42:38.799 --> 00:42:39.199
 this

00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:39.699
 passage

00:42:39.699 --> 00:42:40.539
 in

00:42:40.539 --> 00:42:42.000
 Revelation

00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.420
 and I

00:42:43.420 --> 00:42:43.940
 read the

00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:44.239
 passage

00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:44.480
 in

00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:45.000
 Revelation

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:45.420
 which

00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:45.759
 said

00:42:45.759 --> 00:42:46.579
 I

00:42:46.579 --> 00:42:46.799
 will

00:42:46.799 --> 00:42:47.139
 give

00:42:47.139 --> 00:42:47.420
 him

00:42:47.420 --> 00:42:47.719
 a

00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:48.059
 white

00:42:48.059 --> 00:42:48.639
 stone

00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:49.019
 with

00:42:49.019 --> 00:42:49.159
 a

00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:49.400
 new

00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:49.820
 name

00:42:49.820 --> 00:42:50.099
 written

00:42:50.099 --> 00:42:50.599
 on it

00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:52.759
 and I

00:42:52.759 --> 00:42:53.039
 grabbed

00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:53.860
 the stone

00:42:53.860 --> 00:42:55.239
 and I

00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:55.519
 said

00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:55.860
 yes

00:42:55.860 --> 00:42:56.199
 Lord

00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.179
 that's

00:42:58.179 --> 00:42:58.519
 your

00:42:58.519 --> 00:42:59.099
 promise

00:42:59.099 --> 00:42:59.619
 to me

00:42:59.619 --> 00:43:01.880
 I

00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:02.239
 am

00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:02.559
 going

00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:03.099
 forward

00:43:03.099 --> 00:43:03.339
 to

00:43:03.339 --> 00:43:03.759
 something

00:43:03.759 --> 00:43:04.380
 new

00:43:04.380 --> 00:43:06.839
 and God

00:43:06.839 --> 00:43:07.079
 you're

00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:07.299
 going to

00:43:07.299 --> 00:43:07.679
 be with

00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:08.019
 me

00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:08.819
 and you've

00:43:08.819 --> 00:43:09.279
 given me

00:43:09.279 --> 00:43:10.139
 that stone

00:43:10.139 --> 00:43:11.400
 as a

00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:11.900
 promise

00:43:11.900 --> 00:43:16.739
 so I

00:43:16.739 --> 00:43:17.199
 feel

00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:17.639
 that the

00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:17.900
 white

00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:18.420
 stone

00:43:18.420 --> 00:43:19.739
 it

00:43:19.739 --> 00:43:20.239
 means

00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:20.559
 a

00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:21.199
 promise

00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:21.579
 of

00:43:21.579 --> 00:43:22.159
 something

00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:22.699
 new

00:43:22.699 --> 00:43:23.519
 to come

00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:25.519
 and that

00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:26.079
 was what

00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:27.219
 this meant

00:43:27.219 --> 00:43:28.019
 to me

00:43:28.019 --> 00:43:28.519
 my

00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:28.739
 white

00:43:28.739 --> 00:43:29.019
 stone

00:43:29.019 --> 00:43:30.119
 thanks

00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:30.440
 John

00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.260
 so

00:43:35.260 --> 00:43:37.300
 amongst

00:43:37.300 --> 00:43:37.720
 the

00:43:37.720 --> 00:43:38.460
 books

00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:38.780
 I've

00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:38.980
 read

00:43:38.980 --> 00:43:39.280
 on the

00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:39.460
 book

00:43:39.460 --> 00:43:39.619
 of

00:43:39.619 --> 00:43:40.179
 Revelation

00:43:40.179 --> 00:43:40.500
 there

00:43:40.500 --> 00:43:40.700
 are

00:43:40.700 --> 00:43:41.280
 four

00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:41.900
 things

00:43:41.900 --> 00:43:42.340
 where

00:43:42.340 --> 00:43:42.840
 people

00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:43.400
 seek

00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:43.700
 to

00:43:43.700 --> 00:43:44.240
 and I

00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:44.619
 want to

00:43:44.619 --> 00:43:45.679
 say

00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:45.960
 that

00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:46.340
 it

00:43:46.340 --> 00:43:46.599
 seems

00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:47.039
 to me

00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:47.340
 John

00:43:47.340 --> 00:43:47.639
 that

00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:49.139
 your

00:43:49.139 --> 00:43:51.079
 explanation

00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:51.639
 of the

00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:51.940
 stone

00:43:51.940 --> 00:43:52.420
 is not

00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:52.840
 far

00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:53.119
 from

00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:53.380
 some

00:43:53.380 --> 00:43:53.500
 of

00:43:53.500 --> 00:43:53.679
 these

00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:54.019
 things

00:43:54.019 --> 00:43:54.460
 actually

00:43:54.460 --> 00:43:55.800
 in the

00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:56.740
 ancient

00:43:56.740 --> 00:43:57.400
 world

00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.340
 if you're

00:43:59.340 --> 00:43:59.660
 given a

00:43:59.660 --> 00:43:59.880
 white

00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:00.400
 stone

00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:01.440
 sorry

00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:01.900
 if you

00:44:01.900 --> 00:44:02.480
 were acquitted

00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:02.940
 at a

00:44:02.940 --> 00:44:03.340
 trial

00:44:03.340 --> 00:44:04.420
 you would

00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:04.820
 be given

00:44:04.820 --> 00:44:05.660
 a white

00:44:05.660 --> 00:44:06.139
 stone

00:44:06.139 --> 00:44:09.420
 so

00:44:09.420 --> 00:44:10.039
 Protestant

00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:10.860
 theologians

00:44:10.860 --> 00:44:11.559
 made a lot

00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:12.260
 about this

00:44:12.260 --> 00:44:12.860
 and made

00:44:12.860 --> 00:44:13.340
 it an

00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:13.860
 analogy

00:44:13.860 --> 00:44:14.340
 of the

00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:14.680
 doctrine

00:44:14.680 --> 00:44:14.900
 of

00:44:14.900 --> 00:44:15.500
 justification

00:44:15.500 --> 00:44:16.380
 which Paul

00:44:16.380 --> 00:44:16.980
 talks about

00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:17.539
 in Romans

00:44:17.539 --> 00:44:18.820
 chapter 5

00:44:18.820 --> 00:44:20.019
 justification

00:44:20.019 --> 00:44:20.940
 means we're

00:44:20.940 --> 00:44:21.380
 counted

00:44:21.380 --> 00:44:21.920
 righteous

00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:22.920
 on the

00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:23.280
 back of

00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:23.440
 the

00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:23.940
 righteousness

00:44:23.940 --> 00:44:24.340
 of

00:44:24.340 --> 00:44:24.680
 Jesus

00:44:24.680 --> 00:44:25.420
 it is

00:44:25.420 --> 00:44:27.380
 appropriated

00:44:27.380 --> 00:44:28.099
 to us

00:44:28.099 --> 00:44:28.960
 the

00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:29.380
 second

00:44:29.380 --> 00:44:31.340
 reason

00:44:31.340 --> 00:44:32.019
 second

00:44:32.019 --> 00:44:32.640
 use

00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:32.920
 of a

00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:33.119
 white

00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:33.519
 stone

00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:33.800
 was

00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:34.220
 if you

00:44:34.220 --> 00:44:34.519
 won a

00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:34.860
 battle

00:44:34.860 --> 00:44:35.180
 you'd

00:44:35.180 --> 00:44:35.280
 be

00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:35.480
 given

00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:35.619
 a

00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:35.820
 white

00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:36.220
 stone

00:44:36.220 --> 00:44:36.700
 a bit

00:44:36.700 --> 00:44:37.039
 like a

00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:37.300
 medal

00:44:37.300 --> 00:44:37.860
 in the

00:44:37.860 --> 00:44:38.119
 modern

00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:38.579
 army

00:44:38.579 --> 00:44:38.840
 you were

00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:39.000
 given

00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:39.160
 a

00:44:39.160 --> 00:44:39.340
 white

00:44:39.340 --> 00:44:39.720
 stone

00:44:39.720 --> 00:44:42.099
 and the

00:44:42.099 --> 00:44:42.360
 third

00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:42.720
 reason

00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:43.039
 you would

00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:43.180
 be

00:44:43.180 --> 00:44:43.380
 given

00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:43.539
 a

00:44:43.539 --> 00:44:43.760
 white

00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:44.220
 stone

00:44:44.220 --> 00:44:44.720
 in the

00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:45.039
 ancient

00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:45.380
 world

00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:45.640
 was

00:44:45.640 --> 00:44:46.000
 when you

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:46.119
 were

00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:46.340
 given

00:44:46.340 --> 00:44:46.920
 freedom

00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:47.300
 of the

00:44:47.300 --> 00:44:47.720
 city

00:44:47.720 --> 00:44:50.220
 and the

00:44:50.220 --> 00:44:50.559
 final

00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:50.820
 one

00:44:50.820 --> 00:44:51.180
 which I

00:44:51.180 --> 00:44:51.460
 think

00:44:51.460 --> 00:44:52.039
 has

00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:52.539
 more

00:44:52.539 --> 00:44:52.820
 in it

00:44:52.820 --> 00:44:53.099
 than the

00:44:53.099 --> 00:44:53.260
 other

00:44:53.260 --> 00:44:53.559
 three

00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:54.260
 explanations

00:44:54.260 --> 00:44:54.640
 is

00:44:54.640 --> 00:44:55.019
 what's

00:44:55.019 --> 00:44:55.400
 known as

00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:55.559
 the

00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:56.059
 tessara

00:44:56.059 --> 00:44:57.139
 hospitalis

00:44:57.139 --> 00:44:58.539
 that

00:44:58.539 --> 00:44:59.099
 means

00:44:59.099 --> 00:44:59.759
 the

00:44:59.759 --> 00:45:00.880
 token

00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:02.460
 hospitality

00:45:02.460 --> 00:45:02.799
 what

00:45:02.799 --> 00:45:03.259
 happened

00:45:03.259 --> 00:45:03.739
 was

00:45:03.739 --> 00:45:05.219
 that

00:45:05.219 --> 00:45:05.799
 two

00:45:05.799 --> 00:45:06.519
 friends

00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:07.719
 would be

00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:08.079
 given

00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:08.679
 white

00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:09.119
 stones

00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:09.519
 and they

00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:09.960
 would write

00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:10.440
 the name

00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:10.699
 of the

00:45:10.699 --> 00:45:10.880
 other

00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:11.420
 person

00:45:11.420 --> 00:45:11.880
 on their

00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:12.340
 stone

00:45:12.340 --> 00:45:13.000
 and then

00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:13.440
 time

00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:13.699
 might

00:45:13.699 --> 00:45:14.159
 separate

00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:14.579
 them

00:45:14.579 --> 00:45:15.420
 and go

00:45:15.420 --> 00:45:15.619
 their

00:45:15.619 --> 00:45:16.039
 different

00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:16.380
 ways

00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:16.759
 if they

00:45:16.759 --> 00:45:17.219
 died

00:45:17.219 --> 00:45:17.900
 they would

00:45:17.900 --> 00:45:18.219
 hand

00:45:18.219 --> 00:45:18.799
 their stone

00:45:18.799 --> 00:45:19.320
 on to

00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:20.000
 their

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:20.420
 son

00:45:20.420 --> 00:45:20.880
 or their

00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:21.299
 daughter

00:45:21.299 --> 00:45:22.059
 probably

00:45:22.059 --> 00:45:22.299
 their

00:45:22.299 --> 00:45:22.599
 son

00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.340
 and when

00:45:24.340 --> 00:45:24.739
 they met

00:45:24.739 --> 00:45:25.000
 up with

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:25.400
 the person

00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:25.740
 had the

00:45:25.740 --> 00:45:26.000
 other

00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:26.880
 stone

00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:28.019
 this meant

00:45:28.019 --> 00:45:28.860
 there was

00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:30.380
 a responsibility

00:45:30.380 --> 00:45:31.160
 on you

00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:31.559
 to show

00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:32.380
 hospitality

00:45:32.380 --> 00:45:33.320
 that didn't

00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:33.579
 mean you

00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:33.860
 had to go

00:45:33.860 --> 00:45:34.180
 and cook

00:45:34.180 --> 00:45:34.460
 them a

00:45:34.460 --> 00:45:34.639
 meal

00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:34.900
 I mean

00:45:34.900 --> 00:45:35.220
 it might

00:45:35.220 --> 00:45:35.660
 mean that

00:45:35.660 --> 00:45:35.940
 what it

00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:36.680
 meant was

00:45:36.680 --> 00:45:37.880
 that you

00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:38.360
 would be

00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:39.300
 hospitable

00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:39.940
 to them

00:45:39.940 --> 00:45:43.139
 and

00:45:43.139 --> 00:45:45.180
 I think

00:45:45.180 --> 00:45:45.680
 it's not

00:45:45.680 --> 00:45:46.539
 too fanciful

00:45:46.539 --> 00:45:47.200
 to see

00:45:47.200 --> 00:45:47.680
 this

00:45:47.680 --> 00:45:49.079
 explanation

00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:50.260
 as a

00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:50.740
 kind of

00:45:50.740 --> 00:45:51.539
 foretaste

00:45:51.539 --> 00:45:52.380
 of the

00:45:52.380 --> 00:45:52.680
 heavenly

00:45:52.680 --> 00:45:53.200
 banquet

00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:54.839
 that

00:45:54.839 --> 00:45:55.039
 our

00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:55.519
 names

00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:56.000
 if we

00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:56.379
 trust

00:45:56.379 --> 00:45:56.899
 Christ

00:45:56.899 --> 00:45:57.799
 and we

00:45:57.799 --> 00:45:58.159
 stick

00:45:58.159 --> 00:45:58.579
 with him

00:45:58.579 --> 00:45:59.019
 whatever

00:45:59.019 --> 00:45:59.279
 the

00:45:59.279 --> 00:45:59.819
 opposition

00:45:59.819 --> 00:46:02.379
 then we

00:46:02.379 --> 00:46:02.799
 will have

00:46:02.799 --> 00:46:03.059
 our

00:46:03.059 --> 00:46:03.599
 invite

00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:04.000
 to the

00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:04.279
 heavenly

00:46:04.279 --> 00:46:04.779
 banquet

00:46:04.779 --> 00:46:06.559
 we

00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:06.759
 should

00:46:06.759 --> 00:46:06.899
 be

00:46:06.899 --> 00:46:07.219
 there

00:46:07.219 --> 00:46:07.879
 and

00:46:07.879 --> 00:46:08.659
 God

00:46:08.659 --> 00:46:09.519
 will

00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:09.719
 have

00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:09.960
 our

00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:10.319
 name

00:46:10.319 --> 00:46:11.699
 written

00:46:11.699 --> 00:46:12.619
 on the

00:46:12.619 --> 00:46:13.039
 stone

00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:13.719
 that he

00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:14.079
 hands

00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:14.799
 to us

00:46:14.799 --> 00:46:16.779
 so

00:46:16.779 --> 00:46:17.059
 very

00:46:17.059 --> 00:46:17.339
 quickly

00:46:17.339 --> 00:46:17.679
 what have

00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:18.059
 we learned

00:46:18.059 --> 00:46:18.719
 thus far

00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:20.199
 from

00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:20.739
 Ephesians

00:46:20.739 --> 00:46:21.179
 we learned

00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:21.359
 that

00:46:21.359 --> 00:46:21.779
 doctrinal

00:46:21.779 --> 00:46:22.399
 purity

00:46:22.399 --> 00:46:22.980
 without

00:46:22.980 --> 00:46:23.359
 love

00:46:23.359 --> 00:46:23.799
 is not

00:46:23.799 --> 00:46:24.159
 what the

00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:24.399
 risen

00:46:24.399 --> 00:46:24.839
 Christ

00:46:24.839 --> 00:46:25.459
 calls us

00:46:25.459 --> 00:46:25.739
 to

00:46:25.739 --> 00:46:26.199
 you can

00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:26.579
 be as

00:46:26.579 --> 00:46:27.099
 sound

00:46:27.099 --> 00:46:27.459
 as you

00:46:27.459 --> 00:46:27.839
 like

00:46:27.839 --> 00:46:28.239
 as a

00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:28.599
 Christian

00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:29.019
 but if

00:46:29.019 --> 00:46:29.259
 you don't

00:46:29.259 --> 00:46:29.579
 have any

00:46:29.579 --> 00:46:30.000
 love in

00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:30.619
 your heart

00:46:30.619 --> 00:46:31.299
 agape

00:46:31.299 --> 00:46:32.239
 in your

00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:32.679
 heart

00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:33.480
 it means

00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:33.959
 nothing

00:46:33.959 --> 00:46:35.399
 secondly

00:46:35.399 --> 00:46:35.819
 love

00:46:35.819 --> 00:46:36.239
 without

00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:36.559
 any

00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:37.000
 doctrinal

00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:37.639
 understanding

00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:38.319
 just leaves

00:46:38.319 --> 00:46:38.779
 the church

00:46:38.779 --> 00:46:39.559
 undefended

00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:41.159
 wide open

00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:41.639
 to the

00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:42.959
 modern day

00:46:42.959 --> 00:46:44.019
 Balaam's

00:46:44.019 --> 00:46:44.559
 and

00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:45.559
 Nicolatians

00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:46.779
 thirdly

00:46:46.779 --> 00:46:47.219
 to those

00:46:47.219 --> 00:46:47.919
 who prevail

00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.180
 says Jesus

00:46:49.180 --> 00:46:49.599
 I will

00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:49.880
 give

00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:50.380
 eternal

00:46:50.380 --> 00:46:50.760
 life

00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:51.400
 chapter 2

00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:51.760
 and verse

00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:52.079
 7

00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:53.300
 so keep

00:46:53.300 --> 00:46:53.980
 your eyes

00:46:53.980 --> 00:46:54.440
 on the

00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:54.920
 prize

00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.019
 chapter 2

00:46:57.019 --> 00:46:57.800
 verse 11

00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.159
 and then I

00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:00.760
 think what we

00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:01.460
 add tonight

00:47:01.460 --> 00:47:03.400
 is that we

00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:03.880
 need to

00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:04.700
 monitor the

00:47:04.700 --> 00:47:05.579
 balance in

00:47:05.579 --> 00:47:06.180
 the way we

00:47:06.180 --> 00:47:06.880
 go about

00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:08.019
 our evangelism

00:47:08.019 --> 00:47:09.200
 about how

00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:09.900
 we connect

00:47:09.900 --> 00:47:10.380
 with this

00:47:10.380 --> 00:47:10.740
 world

00:47:10.740 --> 00:47:12.019
 that balance

00:47:12.019 --> 00:47:13.420
 between

00:47:13.420 --> 00:47:16.639
 collusion

00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:18.759
 and compromise

00:47:18.759 --> 00:47:21.619
 and that

00:47:21.619 --> 00:47:22.480
 takes wisdom

00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:23.079
 from on

00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:23.359
 high

00:47:23.359 --> 00:47:24.819
 as I

00:47:24.819 --> 00:47:25.460
 said earlier

00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:25.920
 I think

00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:26.460
 there's only

00:47:26.460 --> 00:47:27.139
 one route

00:47:27.139 --> 00:47:27.920
 for us to

00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:28.480
 have wisdom

00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.119
 on high

00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:30.239
 it's not

00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:30.639
 via a

00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:31.179
 university

00:47:31.179 --> 00:47:32.400
 not via a

00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:33.239
 public school

00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:34.679
 not via any

00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:34.980
 school

00:47:34.980 --> 00:47:35.679
 it's via

00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.539
 our relationship

00:47:37.539 --> 00:47:38.319
 with God

00:47:38.319 --> 00:47:39.339
 and our

00:47:39.339 --> 00:47:40.099
 willingness to

00:47:40.099 --> 00:47:40.839
 seek his

00:47:40.839 --> 00:47:41.299
 wisdom

00:47:41.299 --> 00:47:42.599
 on any

00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:43.519
 and every

00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:44.179
 subject

00:47:44.179 --> 00:47:45.839
 amen

00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.400
 amen

00:47:47.400 --> 00:48:17.380
 Thank you.