WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.379 Let me pray for us and then I'll read verses 1 to 3 of Philippians 4. 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:11.099 Heavenly Father, we pray now and ask for your help as we come to look at your word. 00:00:12.339 --> 00:00:17.480 It's later on, on a Sunday evening, we've had a busy day doing lots of things today as a church. 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:22.600 We've learned lots from your word, we've appreciated it already. 00:00:23.019 --> 00:00:28.859 And so we ask, please, even now, just in these moments together around these verses of Philippians, 00:00:28.859 --> 00:00:34.479 might you speak to our hearts, might you teach us some things about you and about the gospel. 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.480 May you grow our love for one another, we pray. 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:41.859 May you be with us, in Jesus' name. Amen. 00:00:43.859 --> 00:00:45.439 Okay, verse 1. 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:54.820 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, you whom I love and long for, my joy and crown, 00:00:55.239 --> 00:00:58.560 stand firm in the Lord in this way, dear friends. 00:00:58.859 --> 00:01:06.099 I plead with Iodia and I plead with Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. 00:01:06.780 --> 00:01:14.939 Yes, and I ask you, my true companion, help these women since they have contended at my side in the cause of the gospel, 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:21.359 along with Clement and the rest of my co-workers, whose names are in the book of the line. 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:28.700 Now, I've studied and read Philippians a lot over the years, and I'm sure you have too. 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:37.260 And I have often just sort of passed over Iodia and Syntyche thinking, well, you know, it's just a slight historical quirk, isn't it? 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:40.000 It's just an interesting edition of names. 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:49.120 It's just a demonstration that this is kind of rooted in Philippi, and it's not, you know, it's not a letter from Paul directly to London. 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.739 It's a letter to Philippi that we have to translate and get through to us. 00:01:53.739 --> 00:02:01.819 But the more I've studied and the more I've thought about it, the more I think that Iodia and Syntyche are kind of quite central to the letter of Philippians. 00:02:02.379 --> 00:02:08.840 Some commentators say, I'm not sure I agree with them wholly, but say that this is the big reason for the letter, 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:14.019 that actually Paul's reason for writing to Philippi is not just to thank them for the financial gift, 00:02:14.099 --> 00:02:18.740 but is also to pick up this particular situation with these two women. 00:02:18.740 --> 00:02:21.159 And I do think it stands out, doesn't it? 00:02:21.180 --> 00:02:22.520 It is an odd addition. 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:30.740 It's a very direct instruction in the letter, and it does have some significant links to the main thrust of what's going on. 00:02:31.760 --> 00:02:37.020 Some commentaries as well spend quite a bit of time trying to work out exactly who these two women might be, 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.200 and I don't think any of them are particularly convincing. 00:02:40.480 --> 00:02:44.040 I think the most convincing answer as to who these two women are is this. 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:45.500 This is going to blow your socks off. 00:02:46.200 --> 00:02:47.520 We don't know, okay? 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:49.320 I think that's the most persuasive answer. 00:02:50.760 --> 00:02:52.600 But that's because we're not supposed to know. 00:02:53.300 --> 00:02:56.260 And I think, though, even though we don't know who they are, 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:59.340 and even though they don't know exactly what it is that they're falling out about, 00:02:59.500 --> 00:03:03.460 I still think there are some things for us to look at. 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:08.379 So what I think we're going to do this evening, and please indulge me in this a little bit, 00:03:08.760 --> 00:03:12.640 I want us just to try and rinse these verses for as much as we can get out of them, 00:03:13.060 --> 00:03:15.560 and then see some applications for our church life. 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:22.860 So I think I've got six observations of these verses, and then I've got, I think, three applications. 00:03:23.099 --> 00:03:23.939 That's a lot, isn't it? 00:03:24.300 --> 00:03:26.439 But it's not going to take me very long, I promise you. 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.520 Okay, so let me go for these six observations from these texts, okay? 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.780 First one is this. 00:03:33.260 --> 00:03:37.020 It is not doctrinal or moral failure, okay? 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:39.020 This might seem obvious. 00:03:39.320 --> 00:03:41.400 You might just be thinking, Steve, I don't know why you're even pointing this out. 00:03:41.480 --> 00:03:43.280 But it's worth clocking, isn't it? 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.300 This is not a case of false teaching or godless living. 00:03:46.860 --> 00:03:50.040 And we know that because of what Paul doesn't say in these verses, does he? 00:03:50.500 --> 00:03:54.520 He doesn't wade into either camp and say, you know, they're right and you're wrong. 00:03:54.600 --> 00:03:56.860 He doesn't chastise either party for what they're teaching. 00:03:56.860 --> 00:04:02.400 There's no sense that Euodia is having an affair or that Syntyche is embezzling the money of the church or something like that. 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:07.860 There's none of that because if there was, Paul would say so, like he does in other letters about other situations. 00:04:08.660 --> 00:04:12.420 You may know, like Paul says, for example, that Demas is in love with the world 00:04:12.420 --> 00:04:16.220 or that Alexander the coppersmith has done him much harm. 00:04:16.620 --> 00:04:17.900 But there's none of that here, is there? 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:22.500 There's just an instruction for Euodia and Syntyche to agree in the Lord. 00:04:22.500 --> 00:04:27.300 So we're not in the realms of doctrinal or moral failure or error here. 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:31.500 We're just in the area of two people who don't get on who are being told to agree. 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:39.259 The second thing to say is that though it's not doctrinal or moral, it is still serious and it is public as well. 00:04:40.139 --> 00:04:44.160 I think we're to presume that Paul has heard about this situation from Epaphroditus. 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:52.800 So you'll know, won't you, from chapter two, the end of chapter two, Epaphroditus is the guy who went from Philippi to Paul in the Roman prison, 00:04:53.300 --> 00:04:59.080 bringing with him the gift from the Philippian church to Paul, and he almost died in bringing it. 00:04:59.340 --> 00:05:03.260 And has also brought this report to Paul about what's going on in the Philippian church. 00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:07.260 So this isn't some kind of private disagreement between Euodia and Syntyche. 00:05:07.980 --> 00:05:09.600 People know about this, right? 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:11.860 It's obvious and it's serious, right? 00:05:11.980 --> 00:05:13.780 Serious enough for Paul to mention it here. 00:05:14.740 --> 00:05:18.480 Paul is, you know, we're not to imagine that Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, 00:05:18.640 --> 00:05:21.760 writing part of the Bible, is indulging in gossip, right? 00:05:21.780 --> 00:05:23.200 That's not what is going on here, is it? 00:05:23.580 --> 00:05:25.620 He's not making a mountain out of a molehill. 00:05:26.620 --> 00:05:34.080 Here is a disagreement that is serious enough and public enough for him to call out in a letter to the church. 00:05:35.460 --> 00:05:38.500 Perhaps there's a direct threat to the unity of the church. 00:05:38.500 --> 00:05:45.220 Perhaps there's a danger that the fighting could get worse as people perhaps take sides and it spreads through the church. 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:47.319 So Paul takes this really seriously, doesn't he? 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:51.160 Euodia and Syntyche, they're not getting on, and people know about it, 00:05:51.220 --> 00:05:54.019 and it has some serious implications for the life of the church. 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.480 There's the first two. 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:02.500 The third one, it's not in the leadership, but it is between mature Christians. 00:06:02.500 --> 00:06:08.899 Now, we don't know who these women are, but we do know that they're not leaders in the church, right? 00:06:09.579 --> 00:06:11.620 Elders in the early church were always men. 00:06:11.939 --> 00:06:12.899 Paul is clear on that. 00:06:13.459 --> 00:06:18.259 We're told in 1 Corinthians that he has a pattern of way of doing things in church that he applies in all the churches 00:06:18.259 --> 00:06:20.519 concerning the relationships of men and women. 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.540 But just because they're not elders does not mean they're not serious-minded, mature believers. 00:06:25.540 --> 00:06:32.700 Verse 3 tells you that they have worked alongside Paul, worked with Paul. 00:06:33.140 --> 00:06:39.180 And it's noticed it's not actually underneath his leadership, but by his side that he says. 00:06:39.860 --> 00:06:43.800 To such an extent that he can say with confidence that their names are written in the book of life. 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:48.340 Now, I think this is the same as in chapter 1, verse 27. 00:06:48.500 --> 00:06:49.879 Just turn back over the page. 00:06:49.980 --> 00:06:51.319 Chapter 1, verse 27. 00:06:52.520 --> 00:06:57.020 Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.420 Then whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, 00:07:00.840 --> 00:07:08.439 I will know that you stand firm in one spirit, striving together as for the faith of the gospel. 00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:11.519 Now, that is what Euodia and Syntyche have done. 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:17.899 Now, they have, verse 3, help these women since they have contended at my side, 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.699 side by side with me in the cause of the gospel. 00:07:21.899 --> 00:07:23.180 Same word, same idea. 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.699 It's worth saying, perhaps even just as an aside here, 00:07:27.899 --> 00:07:33.199 with this reference to Euodia and Syntyche working side by side with Paul and his ministry team, 00:07:33.299 --> 00:07:37.979 that whatever the New Testament means by male headship in the life of the church 00:07:37.980 --> 00:07:43.580 and Paul's instruction in 1 Timothy 3 that it is men to be elders in the life of the church, 00:07:43.640 --> 00:07:49.060 it does not mean, does it, that women are not engaged in the ministry of the church. 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.700 Women in the New Testament are teaching the Bible, they're doing evangelism, 00:07:52.780 --> 00:07:56.240 they're laboring alongside men, and Paul is clear on that here. 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:03.460 Because that's true, it means that disagreements, even in the church between two women 00:08:03.460 --> 00:08:06.340 who are not on the eldership or leadership of the church, 00:08:06.540 --> 00:08:08.860 or two men who are not on the eldership of the church, 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:14.139 even those disagreements can be serious enough to threaten the unity of a church 00:08:14.139 --> 00:08:16.240 and to be called out by Paul publicly. 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:22.620 In other words, I think the point here is it's not just the relationships on the leadership of the church that matter, 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.259 but it's the relationships between the members that also matter. 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:28.720 And that's what Paul says here. 00:08:29.300 --> 00:08:32.440 So they're not in the leadership, but they are mature Christians. 00:08:33.899 --> 00:08:37.100 Every disagreement has an impact on the ministry of the church. 00:08:38.019 --> 00:08:42.279 Number four, disagreement requires some outside help. 00:08:42.500 --> 00:08:43.779 Okay, so you notice that, don't you? 00:08:43.779 --> 00:08:47.639 Okay, verse three, so I plead with you, I plead with you, I plead with you, I plead with you, 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:49.240 I plead with you to be of the same mind of the Lord. 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.799 Yes, and I ask you, my true companion, help these women, 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:57.459 since they have contended at my side in the course of the gospel, 00:08:57.699 --> 00:09:02.019 along with Clement and the rest of my co-workers, whose names are written in the book of Lyons. 00:09:03.299 --> 00:09:08.939 He calls out this true companion in verse three to help them to get along with one another. 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:11.100 Now, we don't know who that is. 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.459 You could speculate about who that might be. 00:09:14.199 --> 00:09:16.419 Perhaps it's someone from Paul's missionary team. 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.279 Perhaps it's the pastor of the church. 00:09:18.419 --> 00:09:19.759 Perhaps it's another one of the leaders. 00:09:20.459 --> 00:09:25.559 But the point is that Euodia and Syntyche need his, I guess it's his, help. 00:09:26.419 --> 00:09:27.819 And they should seek it out. 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:29.039 And it should be willingly given. 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:35.480 I think at times we can be too proud to accept help, can't we, in interpersonal relational problems. 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.559 Having outside help feels like a whole layer of failure. 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.500 But Paul isn't embarrassed either to call this disagreement out publicly, 00:09:43.719 --> 00:09:49.000 or to suggest publicly that these women might need help to get along with one another. 00:09:50.139 --> 00:09:50.599 There you go. 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:51.519 Those are four. 00:09:51.619 --> 00:09:53.019 We are rattling through the moment, you see. 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:53.819 Told you it wouldn't be long. 00:09:53.820 --> 00:09:54.820 Number five. 00:09:54.820 --> 00:09:55.340 Number five. 00:09:55.500 --> 00:09:57.560 It is solved by Christ-like love. 00:09:58.460 --> 00:09:59.620 Look again at verse two. 00:09:59.620 --> 00:10:07.580 I plead with Euodia and I plead with Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:12.000 Now this is Paul's special word in the letter of the Philippians. 00:10:12.460 --> 00:10:13.679 The word mind. 00:10:13.860 --> 00:10:15.480 It's this word fronin. 00:10:15.580 --> 00:10:19.879 It's the mindset that he's been talking all the way through the letter. 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:21.519 It's the mindset of chapter two. 00:10:21.620 --> 00:10:23.620 So turn back to chapter two. 00:10:24.060 --> 00:10:25.700 This is where it comes, isn't it? 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:27.560 In your relationship, verse five. 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:33.580 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus. 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:38.000 This is the one mind of verse two. 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:44.480 Make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one spirit and of one mind. 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:47.360 This is Paul's favorite word in the letter. 00:10:47.500 --> 00:10:52.279 It's this idea that we are to be self-sacrificial in our love for others. 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:57.319 Self-sacrificial love that looks to one another's eternal well-being above our own comfort. 00:10:58.059 --> 00:11:04.259 Just like Jesus, who left the glories of heaven for the filth of a cross for our eternal salvation. 00:11:05.319 --> 00:11:12.459 And so here, Euodia and Syntyche are being told, listen, be minded towards one another in the same way. 00:11:12.539 --> 00:11:15.360 In this mind that has been given to you by Christ Jesus. 00:11:15.959 --> 00:11:18.899 That is how this conflict will be resolved. 00:11:18.899 --> 00:11:27.360 I mean, in a sense, you could say, couldn't you, that the argument between Euodia and Syntyche is not so much resolved as it is overcome. 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:36.059 You know, the disagreement between the two women is transcended, if you like, by this greater love that flows into them from the love of Christ on the cross. 00:11:36.059 --> 00:11:44.679 This is the image, isn't it, of the letter of the Philippians, that Christ loves us with a self-sacrificial love for our eternal well-being. 00:11:44.779 --> 00:11:52.299 And that flows into us and transforms us so that we might love one another with a self-sacrificial love for the eternal well-being of others. 00:11:52.779 --> 00:12:03.019 And Paul says, listen, that great flow from Christ into you is enough for you to be able to get along with one another, to be of the same mind. 00:12:03.019 --> 00:12:10.139 He isn't just saying, you know, just kind of like bury the hatchet. 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:17.439 He's saying, listen, there is something that you have access to in the Lord Jesus, which can bring you together despite what's going on. 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:25.560 He's telling them in the blood of Christ, there is a source of unity that is greater than any source of disunity. 00:12:27.540 --> 00:12:34.860 It's not, it's, it's not saying, listen, Euodia, what you really need to do here is you really need to accept that Syntyche probably has a point. 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:43.040 You know, you know, Euodia, when Syntyche says that you're sort of annoying, well, that, you know, she's kind of right. 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:43.799 Yes, yeah. 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:50.379 It's, it's not saying, you know, Syntyche, you just got to admit you do have a bad temper at times, don't you? 00:12:50.500 --> 00:12:52.819 You are a little bit of a grumpy person. 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:54.539 It's not that, is it? 00:12:55.099 --> 00:13:01.319 It's saying Euodia and Syntyche, into you both is being poured the love of Christ Jesus himself. 00:13:02.179 --> 00:13:04.639 His selfless love has taken over your hearts. 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:11.939 Now agree with one another that what you have in Christ is greater than anything that is separating you from one another. 00:13:12.439 --> 00:13:13.139 Agree to that. 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.960 Finally then, sixthly, I think he's deliberately vague. 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:21.100 Deliberately vague. 00:13:21.439 --> 00:13:23.179 I don't know if you've noticed this if you read the New Testament. 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:28.419 The New Testament is consistently vague about lots of details that you'd really like to know. 00:13:28.580 --> 00:13:30.700 What particular false teaching is going on? 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:34.039 Like Colossians, there's a heresy going on in the letter to the Colossians. 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.659 In Philippians, you're never quite told what it is, for example. 00:13:37.079 --> 00:13:40.399 In Philippians, you're never quite told why Euodia and Syntyche are not getting on. 00:13:41.019 --> 00:13:42.159 And I think that's deliberate. 00:13:42.299 --> 00:13:48.959 Not so that we are led to speculation, but so that we see that these letters have an implication beyond themselves. 00:13:50.139 --> 00:13:58.799 We are to see that it is possible for you and for me tonight to be Euodia or to be Syntyche. 00:13:58.959 --> 00:13:59.579 That's the point. 00:13:59.899 --> 00:14:02.519 Because we don't know exactly what it is that they were disagreeing about. 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:10.799 So we need to see that the implications are beyond these two women and have something to say to us tonight. 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:14.679 This great letter of Christ's work. 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.620 I think Philippians 2 is probably one of the high points of the New Testament, right? 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.399 This declaration of Christ's work. 00:14:24.500 --> 00:14:28.839 If you're looking for a Christological statement, a statement on the person of Christ, 00:14:29.339 --> 00:14:32.939 you can't really do much better or much greater clarity than chapter 2. 00:14:32.940 --> 00:14:38.180 You being in very nature, God did not consider an equality with God something to be grasped or used to his own advantage, 00:14:38.280 --> 00:14:43.720 but considered himself nothing, taking the nature of a serf, being found in human flesh, humbling himself, 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:46.780 becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:51.000 Therefore, God has exalted him and given him the name above every name. 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:55.679 You know, that's the high point, isn't it, of New Testament Christology. 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:59.080 And then yet, bang, it's landed with Euodia and Syntyche. 00:14:59.220 --> 00:15:04.580 Listen, these great truths of Christ land in your life, in your relationships with one another. 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.220 Euodia and Syntyche, you have no idea who they are. 00:15:07.299 --> 00:15:08.679 You have no idea why they fell out. 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:16.559 But what you do know is that these great truths about Christ and his person land here in that conversation with that person you find difficult at church. 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.979 How do you know you know the truth of the glory of Christ? 00:15:21.079 --> 00:15:25.599 You know it because when you have that conversation with that person you find difficult to get on with, 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:31.019 the truth of who Christ is brings you unity with them, even though you find them difficult to get on with. 00:15:31.719 --> 00:15:33.379 And that's why it's deliberately vague. 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:40.919 The Philippians is meant to land in our Euodia and Syntyche moments in the life of the church. 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:44.779 Now, with that in mind, I want to suggest to you three applications. 00:15:44.779 --> 00:15:46.559 First application, okay? 00:15:47.220 --> 00:15:47.899 First observation. 00:15:48.579 --> 00:15:51.019 I think because these verses are in Philippians, it means this. 00:15:51.860 --> 00:15:53.899 Disagreements in church life are to be expected. 00:15:55.179 --> 00:15:56.919 Disagreements in church life are to be expected. 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:01.139 I think it is possible for us to be very idealistic about church life. 00:16:02.100 --> 00:16:06.439 And to assume that we just might get along with one another without ever having a problem with each other. 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:14.380 And that relational problems are probably some sign of something really serious, some kind of serious moral failure or some serious doctrinal failure. 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:16.940 And that someone's probably a liar, probably a thug. 00:16:17.020 --> 00:16:18.900 They probably need to be removed from the church. 00:16:18.899 --> 00:16:25.759 But these verses are a reminder to you and I that disagreements in the life of the church are to be expected. 00:16:27.860 --> 00:16:38.959 Here we find it's entirely possible, isn't it, in a healthy church, a church which loves Paul, loves the ministry of the gospel, loves contributing to the ministry of the gospel, loves standing side by side with Paul to preach the gospel. 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:55.259 It is entirely possible in a church like that for two people who are still engaged in the life of the church proactively, for those two people to find themselves at opposite sides of a disagreement that is serious enough to threaten the unity of a church where neither party is clearly in the right or the wrong. 00:16:57.660 --> 00:17:01.100 I want to admit to a bit of personal naivety on this thing. 00:17:01.940 --> 00:17:02.840 No, I do. 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:12.360 I think I have been surprised when I have found myself disagreeing with others and I've thought that it should be possible for me to fix those things at every given moment. 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:13.759 It's just not true. 00:17:14.420 --> 00:17:15.720 Not true in the New Testament, is it? 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:20.660 Famously, Paul and Barnabas fall out in Acts 15 over Mark, don't they? 00:17:20.900 --> 00:17:22.299 And they end up going their separate ways. 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.360 They have a disagreement that is so strong, they end up going separate ways. 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:29.519 It does seem in 2 Timothy that there's some reconciliation between Mark and Paul. 00:17:30.120 --> 00:17:32.559 God seems to use it to double his missionary force. 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:39.859 But at the same time, the disagreement is written there to show you these things happen even in healthy churches. 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:45.099 Now, that doesn't mean that we should go looking for disagreements, does it? 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:46.039 Please don't. 00:17:47.019 --> 00:17:49.740 You know, Steve says, disagreements are a good thing in the life of the church. 00:17:49.919 --> 00:17:50.639 That's not what I'm saying. 00:17:50.879 --> 00:17:55.259 I'm saying that disagreements are an inevitable part of the life of the church, but it doesn't mean we should go looking for them. 00:17:56.339 --> 00:18:01.439 But it does mean that we shouldn't take them to be in themselves a sign of failure or of doctrinal error. 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:04.500 But we should agree to agree in the laws. 00:18:05.220 --> 00:18:06.740 And here's the pinch of all this. 00:18:07.500 --> 00:18:13.640 This means that there are aspects of church life which are not clearly addressed by Scripture directly. 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.820 Let me apply it to the Paul and Barnabas argument first, and then we'll come to some arguments about ourselves. 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:23.759 Paul and Barnabas fell out because they couldn't agree whether Mark should be on the team or not. 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:33.019 Right. And so the implication is that the Bible doesn't tell them whether or not taking Mark was the right or the wrong thing to do. 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:41.000 There's no instruction about how many times you should let somebody walk off from a job before you consider them no longer worthy of a place on the team. 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.839 Right. Paul thought Mark walked away one too many times, so they shouldn't include him. 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.599 Barnabas was inclined to give him another chance. 00:18:48.579 --> 00:18:51.240 There's no instruction in the Scriptures that told them the answer to that. 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.559 So they were free to disagree over it and come to different conclusions. 00:18:55.380 --> 00:18:56.339 So people will disagree. 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:59.500 And there are lots of areas like that in church life. 00:18:59.779 --> 00:19:06.140 There is no verse in the Bible that tells you the age of the hymns that you should sing when the church gathers. 00:19:06.140 --> 00:19:10.180 So you are welcome to take a different opinion to other people on that. 00:19:10.500 --> 00:19:15.759 Right. There's no instruction in the Bible that tells you exactly which instruments you should and shouldn't use. 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:17.980 Or the length of the sermon that should be preached. 00:19:18.100 --> 00:19:19.860 Or the clothes that the preacher should wear. 00:19:20.420 --> 00:19:22.460 Or the time of the prayer meeting. 00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:26.660 Or the way that you're going to organize the rota for the Sunday school. 00:19:26.820 --> 00:19:28.920 Or what cakes you're going to have on the refreshment table. 00:19:29.320 --> 00:19:31.220 Or the hours that a volunteer should do. 00:19:31.540 --> 00:19:34.580 Or the amounts of visits a sick person should expect to receive. 00:19:34.579 --> 00:19:38.139 There are many things like that in the life of the church. 00:19:38.639 --> 00:19:41.379 And because there's no specific instruction in the Scriptures, 00:19:41.500 --> 00:19:46.500 we should expect people of different personalities to come to different conclusions on those things. 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.839 And because we're different, and because we're this side of glory, 00:19:50.939 --> 00:19:53.619 we should expect to misunderstand one another on those things. 00:19:54.439 --> 00:19:58.859 We should expect to think that other people in church are crazy 00:19:58.859 --> 00:20:03.159 because they come to a different conclusion on something that the Scriptures are not clear on. 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:08.080 We should expect to have areas of church life where you look at it and you feel like, 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:09.820 well, if I was doing that, I wouldn't do it like that. 00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:15.600 I would go as far as to suggest that if you look at every area of church life and you go, 00:20:15.980 --> 00:20:20.500 that is being done exactly as I would have done it in every single way. 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:24.880 Either you're in a church which is only full of people who are exactly like you, 00:20:24.980 --> 00:20:25.799 which would be weird, 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.400 or you're in charge of everything, which you shouldn't be either. 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.319 Actually, we should be able to look at aspects of church life and go, 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:35.039 I'm glad they're doing it. 00:20:35.460 --> 00:20:37.259 They're not doing it in the way that I would do it, 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:39.480 but praise God that they're doing it like that, 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:41.299 because that's how they're doing it. 00:20:42.579 --> 00:20:45.359 We should expect, shouldn't we, to come to those different kinds of conclusions. 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:49.399 And in a weird way, then those sort of disagreements are a sign of health. 00:20:49.959 --> 00:20:51.979 They mean that we are different, and that's a good thing. 00:20:52.659 --> 00:20:56.039 And we should be very careful when people come to different conclusions 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:57.919 on areas that the Bible gives us freedom on, 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.699 we should be very careful not to put value judgments on those 00:21:01.699 --> 00:21:04.639 which lead these things into being more serious. 00:21:05.019 --> 00:21:08.519 You know, that Christian over there, 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:13.119 I know they have a glass of wine with their evening meal from time to time, 00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:17.660 which probably means they're not really very serious about their Christian faith. 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:20.079 We shouldn't say that second part, should we? 00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:21.039 Because it's not true. 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:23.400 They've come to perhaps a different conclusion to you, 00:21:23.579 --> 00:21:25.680 but that doesn't mean that you can pass judgment 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:27.139 on the seriousness of their Christian life. 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:32.299 You know, that person, I've noticed that when we sing, 00:21:32.299 --> 00:21:34.960 sometimes they put their hands in their air and they close their eyes. 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:38.180 That probably means they don't take the Bible very seriously. 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:40.799 We shouldn't come to that conclusion, should we? 00:21:41.420 --> 00:21:43.599 We shouldn't go there. 00:21:44.139 --> 00:21:46.319 Oh, that person, they always fold their arms when they sing. 00:21:46.980 --> 00:21:48.680 Probably means they don't believe the Holy Spirit. 00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:51.240 We shouldn't make that conclusion, should we? 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:52.039 We shouldn't go there. 00:21:52.220 --> 00:21:56.660 It's not necessary, because the fact that they think differently to others 00:21:56.660 --> 00:21:59.000 is just an indication that they're not like you, 00:21:59.099 --> 00:22:00.680 and that's not a failure. 00:22:01.299 --> 00:22:02.619 It's actually a good thing. 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:05.920 We should expect to disagree in the life of the church. 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:12.160 Secondly, we should expect to need help with our relationships with one another, 00:22:12.500 --> 00:22:16.400 and should expect to help one another with their relationships. 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:21.360 The problem, I would suggest, is not the fact that Yodia and Syntyche disagree. 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:26.080 The problem is that they are unable to get over it and move on. 00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:29.200 And Paul asks them, listen, seek some help. 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.360 Go to my true companion, and he will help you. 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.879 And he told the helper to be essentially more proactive, isn't he? 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:44.139 Yes, and I ask you, my true companion, yes, you know who you are, true companion, 00:22:44.819 --> 00:22:49.659 you who've been sat on the sidelines for far too long while Yodia and Syntyche are not getting on. 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:54.379 You go and get involved and go and help them to agree in the Lord's. 00:22:54.380 --> 00:23:01.760 The church life and our church life together should be essentially a disagreement solver, 00:23:02.600 --> 00:23:05.200 not by making us into clones of one another, 00:23:06.120 --> 00:23:10.940 but by presumably by getting the true companion here to turn us back to the gospel 00:23:10.940 --> 00:23:14.740 and show us that the same mind that we have in Christ is enough for us 00:23:14.740 --> 00:23:17.740 to get over our disagreements and press on in the Lord's. 00:23:17.740 --> 00:23:21.079 So let me ask you how good you are at that. 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:27.759 How good are you at being a true companion or at seeking the help of a true companion? 00:23:28.660 --> 00:23:31.380 I would suggest to you that churches are generally not very good at this. 00:23:31.539 --> 00:23:35.099 I think we tend to, I'm not going to generalise, 00:23:35.539 --> 00:23:40.019 but I do think we tend to seek people in our disagreements 00:23:40.019 --> 00:23:43.000 who will agree with us to defend our cause 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:47.500 rather than people who we might think would genuinely help us get over it. 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:52.059 So we try and share our disagreements to rally people to our team. 00:23:52.940 --> 00:23:57.079 But actually what we're here to do is to seek genuine reconciliation with one another 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.819 and seek people who will help us to find genuine reconciliation, 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:04.339 reminding us, listen, the unity that you have in Christ, 00:24:04.420 --> 00:24:07.420 what Christ is doing in the gospel in pouring love into you 00:24:07.420 --> 00:24:09.759 is greater than this difference that you have. 00:24:11.380 --> 00:24:14.140 So who can you be a true companion to? 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:16.299 Who can you help? 00:24:16.299 --> 00:24:17.339 Who can you encourage? 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:20.620 How, when that topic of conversation comes up again, 00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:23.700 how can you point back to the unity that we have in Christ? 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:29.500 Finally then, final application, and I'm not going to tell you what it is. 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.039 I'm instead going to ask you a question. 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:38.839 I want you to think, you can ask the person next to you if they might help you. 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.619 I want you to ask the person next to you, 00:24:42.959 --> 00:24:47.799 what are the things that the scriptures tell us we must do when we gather the church? 00:24:49.019 --> 00:24:52.659 What things does the scriptures tell us that we must do when we gather as a church? 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:53.559 Have a think about that. 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.559 It's not a trick question. 00:24:55.639 --> 00:24:56.480 I'm not trying to trip you up. 00:24:57.019 --> 00:24:57.339 Have a think. 00:24:57.339 --> 00:25:00.139 What does the Bible say we must do when we gather as a church? 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:01.539 I'm going to say a trick of water as well. 00:25:02.879 --> 00:25:06.019 And then I'll show you around this because I think it's an application as well. 00:25:07.099 --> 00:25:07.699 Go for it. 00:25:08.439 --> 00:25:09.039 Have a think. 00:25:09.299 --> 00:25:10.500 Or talk to the person next to you. 00:25:10.500 --> 00:25:14.839 What do the scriptures say we should do when we gather as a church? 00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:17.779 Okay. 00:25:18.819 --> 00:25:24.200 So my question was, what do the scriptures say that we should do when we gather as a church? 00:25:26.980 --> 00:25:28.839 Joe, you said sing, didn't you? 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:29.220 Yeah. 00:25:29.460 --> 00:25:30.059 That's right. 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:31.339 We are to sing. 00:25:31.859 --> 00:25:33.220 We are to sing together. 00:25:33.500 --> 00:25:37.039 Interestingly, we are to sing for one another's benefit. 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.960 That we sing to teach one another and to encourage one another, don't we? 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:42.799 So, yes. 00:25:44.940 --> 00:25:45.559 Very helpful. 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:46.559 Lucy? 00:25:47.399 --> 00:25:50.539 Sarah said, come together as you need to be on the church. 00:25:50.859 --> 00:25:51.139 Yes. 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:55.440 So we are to gather together and we say we can't do church on our own. 00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:56.299 We have to do it together. 00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:59.639 Church is the word gathering in the New Testament. 00:25:59.940 --> 00:26:02.180 Ecclesia means to gather, to come together. 00:26:02.460 --> 00:26:02.579 Yeah. 00:26:03.259 --> 00:26:05.960 Do not give up meeting together as some are in the habit of doing. 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:06.940 Hebrews 10. 00:26:07.339 --> 00:26:07.480 Yeah. 00:26:07.940 --> 00:26:08.319 Sing. 00:26:08.539 --> 00:26:08.720 Gather. 00:26:11.019 --> 00:26:11.379 Yes. 00:26:11.460 --> 00:26:12.539 We are to encourage one another. 00:26:13.299 --> 00:26:13.500 Yeah. 00:26:14.639 --> 00:26:15.740 To love one another. 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:17.960 Yeah. 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:18.420 To pray. 00:26:18.940 --> 00:26:19.119 Yeah. 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:22.039 To break bread. 00:26:22.139 --> 00:26:22.420 Yes. 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:23.720 Share the Lord's Supper together. 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.639 We can add baptism to that as well. 00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:26.839 Yeah. 00:26:27.099 --> 00:26:29.480 We are to baptize people into membership of the church. 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:30.799 Sorry? 00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:32.339 Yes. 00:26:32.859 --> 00:26:33.920 Confessing our sins together. 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:33.980 Yes. 00:26:33.980 --> 00:26:34.039 Yes. 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:34.079 Yes. 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:34.119 Yes. 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:34.159 Yes. 00:26:34.159 --> 00:26:34.519 Yes. 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:34.559 Yes. 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:35.079 Yes. 00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:35.559 Yes. 00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:36.119 Yes. 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:36.159 Yes. 00:26:36.159 --> 00:26:37.019 Yes. 00:26:37.019 --> 00:26:38.019 Yes. 00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:39.019 Yes. 00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:40.019 Yes. 00:26:40.019 --> 00:26:41.019 Yes. 00:26:41.019 --> 00:26:42.019 Yes. 00:26:42.019 --> 00:26:43.019 Yes. 00:26:43.019 --> 00:26:43.519 Yes. 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:45.920 So seeking help from one another to support one another. 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:46.639 Yeah. 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:54.060 Slightly disappointing that we've not said read the Bible or preach. 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:54.920 But anyway, there you go. 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:56.660 Is that what you're going to say? 00:26:56.740 --> 00:26:57.120 So yes. 00:26:58.360 --> 00:27:01.320 Paul tells Timothy to commit himself to the public reading of scripture. 00:27:01.540 --> 00:27:04.360 He is to preach the word in season and out of season. 00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:09.640 So whether you like it or not, Paul's constricting Timothy to preach. 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:10.640 To preach. 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:11.640 Yeah. 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:12.640 Yeah. 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:13.640 Yeah. 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:14.640 Yeah. 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:15.640 Yeah. 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:16.640 Yeah. 00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:17.640 Yeah. 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:18.640 Confession. 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:19.640 We've had that. 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:20.640 Okay. 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:20.960 Okay. 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:22.600 Oh, look at that. 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:23.020 You see it. 00:27:23.020 --> 00:27:25.560 It's almost 25 plus 70 and throwing a spanner in the works. 00:27:25.700 --> 00:27:25.960 Yes. 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:27.320 Prophesying. 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:35.960 So I think probably in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14, the prophesying is probably quite close 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:37.460 to what we would call preaching. 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:38.539 Yeah. 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:40.700 It's interesting there, isn't it, in those chapters? 00:27:43.779 --> 00:27:44.180 Yeah. 00:27:44.360 --> 00:27:44.779 There you go. 00:27:45.120 --> 00:27:45.319 Yeah. 00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:50.120 It's interesting, I think, as well, what you get from those 1 Corinthians passages is that 00:27:50.120 --> 00:27:51.740 everybody wants to be involved. 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.039 So I think participation is something that we're instructed to do. 00:27:56.579 --> 00:28:00.079 So when you come and gather as church, it's not something that's done to you, but it's 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:01.519 something you participate in. 00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:01.900 Right? 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.680 So that's one of the hallmarks of an authentic church. 00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:06.559 Yeah. 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.079 So we read the Acts passage as well about they committed themselves to the breaking of 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.919 bread and fellowship with one another and to the apostles' teaching. 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:14.639 Right. 00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:14.819 Okay. 00:28:14.819 --> 00:28:17.599 There's one thing that I didn't think you'd say, so you fell into my trap. 00:28:18.220 --> 00:28:22.339 So turn to 1 Thessalonians, chapter 5, verse 26. 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.980 I would give you a page number, but I'm not there yet myself. 00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:31.980 So someone... 00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:32.980 Someone... 00:28:33.500 --> 00:28:38.120 1 Thessalonians, chapter 5, verse 26. 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:39.539 1-1-8-8. 00:28:39.539 --> 00:28:41.279 1-1-8-8. 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:41.900 Thank you. 00:28:45.500 --> 00:28:48.579 Greet all God's people with a holy kiss. 00:28:49.019 --> 00:28:49.220 Okay? 00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:52.259 Romans 16, verse 16. 00:28:52.380 --> 00:28:54.240 Turn to Romans 16, verse 16. 00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.620 Romans 16, verse 16. 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:01.860 That is on page 1143. 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.559 I'm sorry I'm doing this quickly, but we've almost run out of time. 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:08.039 Romans 16, 16. 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.299 Greet one another with a holy kiss. 00:29:11.180 --> 00:29:11.480 Okay? 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.900 1 Peter, chapter 5, verse 14. 00:29:15.360 --> 00:29:17.620 1 Peter, chapter 5, verse 14. 00:29:17.619 --> 00:29:25.419 Greet one another with a kiss of love. 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.019 Now, here's my third and final application. 00:29:30.500 --> 00:29:30.819 Yes? 00:29:31.259 --> 00:29:35.859 Sarah, you're the winner. 00:29:36.159 --> 00:29:36.919 Well done, Sarah. 00:29:37.059 --> 00:29:39.079 She's on Zoom, so... 00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.159 I'm sorry that we didn't come to you, but there you go. 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:46.139 So, my final application from these verses in Philippians is this, 00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:52.000 that we are to share our unity with one another or our peace with one another in Christ. 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.280 I am not suggesting that we go around kissing one another. 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:01.300 I think that is a first-century tradition in terms of a greeting one another. 00:30:01.520 --> 00:30:03.840 But here's the thing I think that we neglect to do, 00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:09.880 is we neglect to recognize and share together the peace that we have in the Lord Jesus Christ. 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.760 This is more than just saying hello to one another, isn't it? 00:30:14.060 --> 00:30:21.300 It is greeting one another in the life of the church in a way that reflects the unity and peace that we enjoy in the Lord Jesus Christ. 00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:27.520 You may have been to an Anglican church where they share the peace with one another as part of the corporate worship. 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.520 I think there's something to be said for that. 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:35.019 It is saying, listen, what we have together in Christ, what God has done for us in Christ, 00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:36.720 is something that we share with one another. 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.500 You might be my syndicate and I might be your euodia, 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.200 but we are shaking hands in church and saying, 00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:45.480 we have peace in Christ. 00:30:45.779 --> 00:30:48.819 We're brothers, we're sisters in the Lord Jesus Christ. 00:30:49.859 --> 00:30:53.420 And notice, this is exactly what Paul is insisting for euodia and syndicate, isn't he? 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.240 He isn't saying, listen, euodia and syndicate, we all want holiday together. 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.279 Have each other around for Christmas dinner. 00:30:58.859 --> 00:31:00.160 Become best friends with one another. 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:01.299 He's not saying that at all, is he? 00:31:01.539 --> 00:31:08.039 What he's saying is, listen, what you have in Christ is enough for you to get on with one another in the life of the church. 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.859 It is precious what God has done for you in Christ. 00:31:12.220 --> 00:31:14.420 And it's precious enough to transcend your disagreements. 00:31:15.339 --> 00:31:18.140 And that's why it's a part of ancient worship services. 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.359 Maybe we should introduce it in some manner in the life of our church, 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.960 that we greet one another and speak and share peace with one another. 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.299 That we have in the Lord Jesus. 00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:29.299 Because the truth is, we're not making it up, are we? 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:34.359 We're not faking it with one another, pretending to be at peace with one another. 00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.900 There's a real peace that we share in the Lord Jesus Christ. 00:31:38.740 --> 00:31:39.079 There you go. 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.160 That is Philippians 4, verses 1 to 3. 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.519 Let me pray for us as I close and then we'll sing. 00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:53.079 Heavenly Father, thank you so much that the love that we've received from the Lord Jesus, 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:59.139 through his death for us on the cross, is sufficient for us to get along with one another 00:31:59.139 --> 00:32:01.460 and to share peace with one another. 00:32:02.019 --> 00:32:03.819 Thank you that you've made us all different. 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.359 That we're from different places, different cultures. 00:32:06.879 --> 00:32:08.660 We have different ways of looking at things. 00:32:08.660 --> 00:32:12.019 And that means that we might disagree with one another at times. 00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:16.560 But thank you that what we have in the Lord Jesus is enough to transcend those disagreements 00:32:16.560 --> 00:32:19.700 because we're brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. 00:32:20.300 --> 00:32:23.080 And we give you thanks and praise and glory in Jesus' name. 00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:23.740 Amen. 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:24.680 Amen.