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 Well, good evening again. If you've got a Bible near you, if you could turn to 2 Timothy

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 chapter 2, we'll be looking at the passage that we read together earlier from verse 14

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 onwards. I must start tonight with a confession. When the first version of the preaching rota

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 was issued, the passage I was assigned was from the middle of 1 Peter. And to be honest,

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 it looked quite interesting. I had some issues there that would be, I guess, quite fun to

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 grapple with, to try and work out how they applied to us today. And then the preaching

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 plan was changed. And I was given this passage. And I must admit, my initial reaction was not

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 excitement. Because you see, obviously, we know that all Scripture is God-breathed, useful

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 for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness. But what really is the relevance

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 of a passage about teaching the words correctly and avoiding false teaching in a good evangelical

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 church like this, where the Bible is faithfully preached week in, week out. However, news I

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 received a couple of weeks ago came as a real shock and convinced me of the real and present

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 danger we live in. And of the vital importance and urgency of this teaching. You see, I received

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 news of a friend. A friend I've known as a Christian for well over 10 years. A friend who knew his Bible

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 inside out. Who devoured online sermons. Who was that person that always, when you went out for a meal,

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 prayed embarrassingly long and loud prayers. And this friend had renounced his faith.

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 For reasons I've still to properly understand, he's decided that what was once so important to him,

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 he now wants nothing to do with. And as I thought about it longer, I thought of others.

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 For others, people I've known, some who sat in the seats here, who at one point seemed to be living

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 for Christ, and are now far away. For some, they've been unwilling to accept things that the Bible teaches.

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 For others, they've been unable to reconcile the lifestyle they want with walking with Christ.

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 But for whatever reason, they have gone.

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 And as I thought about it even more, I realized I could even think of a couple of teachers that some of us

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 watched on video in this very room.

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 One whose questioning of everything has led him to a place so far from the center of the gospel.

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 So far that it can't really be recognized as the gospel at all.

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 And another who, while still probably orthodox in his beliefs,

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 his personal failings have brought the church he founded collapsing in a heap around him.

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 And so all this goes to show that there's absolutely no room for complacency.

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 There's no room for us to think that we here at Brunsfield Evangelical Church are somehow immune.

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 Or that any of the teachers we respect and learn from, whether in books, whether online,

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 or whether on this very platform here, are incapable of falling.

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 Several times recently I've heard references to one particular scene at the Last Supper.

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 When Jesus has just revealed to his disciples that one of them will betray him.

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 And each of them, one after the other, says,

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 Is it I, Lord?

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 Each of them recognizes that somehow inside them there is that weakness,

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 that doubt, that rebellious nature,

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 that means that it isn't inconceivable that it could be them.

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 But there's another scene that comes to mind.

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 Jesus has been teaching his disciples,

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 and they've been finding the teaching hard.

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 And many of them have been turning away.

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 And Jesus says to them,

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 You do not want to leave too, do you?

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 And Simon Peter answered him,

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 Lord, to whom shall we go?

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 You have the words of eternal life.

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 We have come to believe and to know

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 that you are the Holy One of God.

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 So hopefully, as we dig into this passage,

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 that serves as a bit of an explanation

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 as to why I believe this short passage

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 in a letter written to Timothy all those years ago

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 is vital and urgent to us today.

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 Because you see, in verse 14,

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 we read that Paul exhorts Timothy

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 to keep reminding God's people of these things.

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 They don't need to hear anything new.

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 Nothing novel, nothing radical.

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 They know this already.

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 They've heard it from Paul,

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 from Timothy, many times.

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 But like us,

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 they forget.

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 They're drawn away so easily.

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 And there are all sorts of other messages

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 clamoring for their attention.

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 Some that would claim to be more exciting,

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 more attractive,

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 or maybe just easier to follow.

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 And so they need reminded.

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 They need reminded again.

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 And again.

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 Because Timothy may receive discouragement.

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 There may be reasons

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 that he would want to stop.

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 People might be looking down on him

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 for preaching that same old gospel

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 that Paul preached all those years ago.

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 He's not moving with the times.

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 He's not preaching the new, trendy message.

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 Or maybe he might just think,

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 he's already said it enough times.

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 He just wants a break.

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 But Paul tells him to keep on.

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 To tell them again.

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 And so,

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 what are these things that it's so important

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 that Paul reminds them of?

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 It's unclear whether he's just referring back

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 to the couple of verses before,

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 or everything that's gone before.

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 But I don't think it really matters.

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 Either way,

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 we see it comes down to one thing.

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 The gospel.

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 In verse 8,

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 he has told Timothy

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 to remember Jesus Christ,

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 raised from the dead,

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 descended from David.

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 This is my gospel

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 for which I am suffering.

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 In verse 10,

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 he writes of the salvation

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 that is in Christ Jesus

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 with eternal glory.

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 Back in chapter 1,

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 verses 9 and 10,

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 he's written,

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 He has saved us

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 and called us to a holy life.

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 Not because of anything we have done,

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 but because of his own purpose and grace.

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 This grace was given us

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 in Christ Jesus

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 before the beginning of time.

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 But it has now been revealed

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 through the appearing of our Savior,

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 Christ Jesus,

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 who has destroyed death

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 and has brought life

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 and immortality to light

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 through the gospel.

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 And you see here

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 that Paul,

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 every time he speaks of it,

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 emphasizes a different part.

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 If we look through all his writings,

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 we get all different angles on it.

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 He talks of the unmerited grace.

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 He talks of the power of the resurrection.

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 The fulfilled prophecies.

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 The future glory.

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 The call to holy living.

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 He tells Timothy

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 to remind them

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 of these things.

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 To remind the Ephesians

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 of the glory

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 of the gospel.

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 That whatever way you look at it,

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 whatever side you take it from,

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 is better than anything

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 that these false teachers could offer.

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 And that it's something

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 that's worth living for.

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 Something worth suffering for.

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 Even something worth dying for.

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 But along with the glory

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 of the gospel,

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 he also reminds Timothy

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 of the exclusivity of the gospel.

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 In verse 12,

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 he said,

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 if we disown him,

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 he will disown us.

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 The gospel he is proclaiming

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 has glorious promises.

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 But it's a gospel

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 that can be accepted

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 or rejected.

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 It's a gospel

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 that is a universal offer.

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 But it's not

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 a gospel

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 of universal salvation.

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 And so you see,

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 it's not just of academic interest

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 whether the Ephesians

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 accept the teachings of Timothy

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 or the teachings

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 of these other teachers.

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 As we're going to see repeatedly

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 through this passage,

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 the truth matters.

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 And you see,

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 while this was written

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 to Timothy

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 all those years ago

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 in a specific circumstance,

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 I don't think this call

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 is relevant only to him.

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 In fact,

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 I don't think this call

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 is even just relevant

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 to church leaders,

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 teachers,

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 evangelists,

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 other professional Christians.

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 Instead,

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 this is a task

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 for all of us.

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 A few months ago

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 in Hebrews 3,

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 we were reminded

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 to encourage

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 one another

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 daily

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 so that none of you

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 may be hardened

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 by sin's deceitfulness.

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 All of us

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 need to be reminded

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 constantly

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 of the gospel.

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 In particular,

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 when our brothers

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 and sisters

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 are struggling,

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 when they come to us

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 for advice,

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 for counsel,

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 for encouragement,

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 do we just

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 give them

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 the best advice

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 we can think of?

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 The things that we have

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 learnt from our own experience,

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 the things that

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 we can somehow

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 work out,

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 yeah,

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 that should probably work.

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 Or are we reminding them

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 again

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 of the gospel?

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 Are we reminding them

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 of their status in Christ

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 when they doubt it?

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 Are we reminding them

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 of the great price

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 that has been paid

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 for them?

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 Both the wonderful

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 reassurance of that,

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 but also the challenge

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 that they have been bought.

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 They are not their own.

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 Are we reminding them

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 of the work

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 that is being done

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 in them

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 and through them?

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 Are we reminding them

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 of the hope

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 that's reserved for them?

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 Are we reminding them

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 of the Father

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 whose eye is on the sparrow,

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 the Father who cares

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 about their particular

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 circumstance

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 far more than they ever could,

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 but cares infinitely more

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 about their eternal glory?

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 One of the old hymns

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 has the following lines.

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 Tell me the story often,

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 for I forget so soon.

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 The early dew of morning

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 has passed away at noon.

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 Tell me the story always,

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 if you would really be

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 in any time of trouble

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 a comforter to me.

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 Tell me the same old story

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 when you have caused to fear

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 that this world's empty glory

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 is costing me too dear.

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 Tell me the old, old story

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 of Jesus and his love.

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 And so following this call

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 to remind him of the gospel,

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 in verse 15,

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 we see that Timothy is told,

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 do your best

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 to present yourself to God

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 as one approved.

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 A worker

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 who does not need

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 to be ashamed

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 and who correctly

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 handles the word of truth.

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 Must admit,

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 that's a quite challenging passage

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 to be the one handling.

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 But,

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 in the context

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 of false teachers,

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 of people looking for other,

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 more palatable teaching,

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 Paul wants Timothy

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 to remember

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 whose approval

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 actually matters.

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 It doesn't matter

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 whether people

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 approve of his teaching.

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 It doesn't matter

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 if they look down on him,

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 ridicule him.

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 It doesn't even matter

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 if the church

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 is preaching

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 and empties

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 as they all go

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 to the one down the road

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 where someone else

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 is preaching

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 something that they prefer

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 to hear.

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 What matters

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 is that he can stand

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 unashamed

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 before God

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 because he

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 is doing his best

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 to handle

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 the word

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 correctly.

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 Seems there's

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 numerous ways

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 of translating

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 these words.

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 correctly handles,

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 rightly divides,

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 cutting in a straight line,

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 preaching straightforwardly,

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 and numerous

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 attempts to explain

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 what the metaphor

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 is about.

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 But basically,

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 it seems to just be

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 about treating

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 the Bible

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 honestly

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 and accurately.

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 About reading

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 what it says,

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 not what you want

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 it to say.

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 about seeking

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 to understand

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 what it means,

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 not what you want

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 it to mean.

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 And of trying

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 to apply it

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 as it shapes

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 your world view,

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 your thoughts,

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 your words,

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 your actions.

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 But I'm not

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 naive.

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 I know

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 this is often

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 much easier

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 said than done.

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 many times

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 we'll struggle

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 to understand

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 what the text

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 means.

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 Other times

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 we'll struggle

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 to understand

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 how we can

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 apply it

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 today

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 in our

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 21st century

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 world.

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 And often

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 we'll struggle

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 with putting

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 that call

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 into action.

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 And there may

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 be a lot

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 of background

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 reading,

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 a lot of

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 other things

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 that we need

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 to look into

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 to understand

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 the context

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 in which

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 it's written.

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 Things that

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 we need

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 to understand

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 to be able

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 to get

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 what the

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 author is

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 on about.

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 And even

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 then,

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 often two

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 Christians

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 faithfully

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 and prayerfully

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 seeking

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 to understand

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 the Bible

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 make it

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 come up

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 with two

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 different

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 interpretations

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 of the same

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 passage.

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 and that's

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 to be

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 expected.

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 We're

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 weak.

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 We're

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 limited.

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 We're

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 fallen,

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 although

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 being

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 redeemed.

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 But are

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 we,

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 like Timothy,

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 doing our

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 best to

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 correctly

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 handle the

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 word?

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 Or are we

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 slapdash at

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 best?

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 Or are we

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 even looking

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 to handle

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 scripture in a

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 way so that it

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 backs up our

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 ideas, our

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 preconceptions,

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 our views?

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 As Shakespeare

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 would remind us

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 in The Merchant

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 of Venice,

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 the devil

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 can cite

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 scripture for

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 his own

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 purpose.

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 And once

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 again,

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 this is not

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 just to

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 Timothy.

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 This is not

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 even just to

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 teachers.

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 This is

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 relevant for

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 us all.

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 We should

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 all be

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 handling the

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 word.

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 And we

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 should all

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 be seeking

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 to handle

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 it well.

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 So how

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 are we

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 handling it

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 in our

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 private study,

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 in our

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 devotions,

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 in our

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 conversations

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 with friends,

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 in our

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 small groups,

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 as we

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 teach our

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 children,

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 in whatever

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 context that

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 we're handling

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 it?

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 Are we

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 seriously

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 trying to

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 handle it

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 properly?

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 Because you

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 see,

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 we've got

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 these positive

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 encouragements

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 that Paul

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 gives

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 Timothy,

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 but he

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 sets them

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 off against

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 warnings,

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 against

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 things that

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 are to be

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 avoided.

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 In verse

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 14,

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 Timothy

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 was told,

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 warn them

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 before God

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 against

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 quarreling

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 about words.

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 It seems

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 what he's

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 warning them

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 about is

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 the exact

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 opposite of

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 correctly

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 handling the

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 word of

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 truth.

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 they're

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 focusing on

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 the words.

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 They're

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 trying to

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 find hidden

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 meanings,

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 trying to

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 work out

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 a different

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 way of

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 interpreting

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 the text,

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 ultimately

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 trying to

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 avoid the

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 truth that

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 is staring

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 them in

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 the face

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 if they

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 were willing

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 to actually

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 read it.

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 If we

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 remember back

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 to the

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 Garden of

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 Eden,

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 the serpent

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 said to

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 Eve,

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 did God

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 really

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 say?

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 It seems

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 that this

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 is exactly

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 what's

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 going on

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 here.

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 And then

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 in verse

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 16,

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 he's told

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 to avoid

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 godless

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 chatter,

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 another

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 phrase that

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 gets translated

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 a huge

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 number of

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 different ways.

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 But what

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 does it

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 mean?

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 Godless

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 chatter?

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 Does that

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 mean ideally

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 discussing the

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 weather or

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 other trivial

00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:18.839
 things?

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 gossiping and

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 other things

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 like that?

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 The first

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 at times

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 may be a

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 distraction.

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 The second

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 is condemned

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 outright

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 elsewhere.

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 But in the

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 context, I

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 don't think

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 that's what

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 he's talking

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 about.

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 At the

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 end of

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 the first

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 letter to

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 Timothy, he

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 uses the

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 exact same

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 words.

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 But he

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 continues the

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 sentence to

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 elaborate a

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 bit.

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 He talks

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 about

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 godless

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 chatter, the

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 opposing ideas

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 of what is

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 falsely

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 called

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 knowledge.

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 It seems

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 that what

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 he's talking

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 about is

00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:02.939
 instead the

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 sort of

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 talk or

00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:04.960
 debate that

00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:06.240
 claims to

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 be profound,

00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:09.139
 that claims to

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 be intelligent,

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 important,

00:20:11.059 --> 00:20:11.980
 to teach us

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 something new.

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 But ultimately

00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:16.899
 it's speculation

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 at best and

00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:20.320
 deception at

00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:20.720
 worst.

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 But when we

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 read warnings

00:20:26.280 --> 00:20:27.000
 like this,

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 some Christians

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 would take

00:20:30.220 --> 00:20:31.660
 this as a

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 reason to

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 avoid all

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 theological

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 discussions.

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 In fact, the

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 whole concept of

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 theology at all,

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 they would say,

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 well, actually,

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 no, no,

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 that's arguing

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 about words,

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 we shouldn't be

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 doing that.

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 And I don't

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 think that at

00:20:46.540 --> 00:20:47.680
 all is what

00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:48.280
 Paul intends

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 us to

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 understand.

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 Because you

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 see, we

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 repeatedly,

00:20:53.080 --> 00:20:53.940
 through Acts,

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 we read that

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 Paul was

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 very well

00:20:57.220 --> 00:20:57.840
 educated,

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 both in the

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 scriptures and

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 in the writings

00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:02.519
 and philosophy

00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:03.140
 of the culture

00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:03.740
 around him.

00:21:05.080 --> 00:21:06.140
 He was more

00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:06.840
 than willing to

00:21:06.840 --> 00:21:08.360
 debate with

00:21:08.360 --> 00:21:08.880
 the Jews,

00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:09.840
 with the

00:21:09.840 --> 00:21:10.200
 Greeks,

00:21:11.060 --> 00:21:11.580
 even with

00:21:11.580 --> 00:21:12.200
 other apostles

00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:13.000
 when necessary.

00:21:14.900 --> 00:21:15.380
 And so,

00:21:15.819 --> 00:21:16.500
 I don't think

00:21:16.500 --> 00:21:17.900
 Paul is

00:21:17.900 --> 00:21:18.380
 saying that

00:21:18.380 --> 00:21:19.600
 all debate,

00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:20.799
 discussion,

00:21:21.340 --> 00:21:22.140
 argument of

00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:22.779
 any sort

00:21:22.779 --> 00:21:24.019
 is wrong.

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 While some

00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:29.519
 things that

00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:30.539
 go on under

00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:31.200
 the name of

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 theology are

00:21:33.539 --> 00:21:34.259
 dubious,

00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:35.700
 dangerous,

00:21:36.360 --> 00:21:37.180
 and exactly

00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:37.840
 what Paul is

00:21:37.840 --> 00:21:38.500
 condemning here,

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 I think it's

00:21:40.940 --> 00:21:41.539
 important that

00:21:41.539 --> 00:21:42.259
 we recognize

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 there are

00:21:43.339 --> 00:21:44.579
 different sort

00:21:44.579 --> 00:21:45.279
 of arguments.

00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:46.359
 Some are

00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:47.539
 necessary and

00:21:47.539 --> 00:21:47.839
 good.

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 Some are

00:21:49.659 --> 00:21:49.899
 to be

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 condemned.

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 Then there

00:21:53.220 --> 00:21:53.579
 are some

00:21:53.579 --> 00:21:54.000
 that are to

00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:54.379
 be handled

00:21:54.379 --> 00:21:54.960
 with caution.

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 The first

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 sort is what

00:22:00.139 --> 00:22:01.339
 Anselm called

00:22:01.339 --> 00:22:02.659
 faith-seeking

00:22:02.659 --> 00:22:03.399
 understanding.

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 this is when

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 we're honestly

00:22:06.100 --> 00:22:07.320
 trying to

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 understand in

00:22:09.140 --> 00:22:09.759
 order that we

00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:10.360
 can follow,

00:22:11.140 --> 00:22:11.420
 worship,

00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:12.519
 and obey

00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:13.220
 better.

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 This is the

00:22:15.620 --> 00:22:16.280
 questioning of

00:22:16.280 --> 00:22:16.580
 Mary,

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 who in her

00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:19.480
 acceptance of

00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:20.180
 the role given

00:22:20.180 --> 00:22:20.720
 to her,

00:22:21.580 --> 00:22:22.040
 asks,

00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:22.960
 how will

00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:23.540
 this be?

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 Or of the

00:22:25.500 --> 00:22:26.000
 Bereans,

00:22:26.360 --> 00:22:27.600
 who examined

00:22:27.600 --> 00:22:28.200
 the scriptures

00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:29.900
 daily to see

00:22:29.900 --> 00:22:30.460
 if what Paul

00:22:30.460 --> 00:22:30.960
 said was

00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:31.279
 true?

00:22:33.259 --> 00:22:34.200
 Or this is

00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:34.660
 the council

00:22:34.660 --> 00:22:35.319
 at Jerusalem

00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:37.079
 trying to

00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:38.079
 work out

00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:38.940
 how to

00:22:38.940 --> 00:22:40.059
 handle this

00:22:40.059 --> 00:22:41.220
 new Gentile

00:22:41.220 --> 00:22:41.799
 church?

00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:44.700
 Or Paul

00:22:44.700 --> 00:22:46.059
 reasoning daily

00:22:46.059 --> 00:22:47.120
 in the

00:22:47.120 --> 00:22:47.660
 lecture hall

00:22:47.660 --> 00:22:48.440
 of Tyrannus?

00:22:49.100 --> 00:22:49.960
 This is

00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:50.819
 exactly the

00:22:50.819 --> 00:22:51.240
 sort of

00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:51.740
 discussion,

00:22:52.539 --> 00:22:53.059
 even at

00:22:53.059 --> 00:22:53.900
 times argument,

00:22:53.900 --> 00:22:54.799
 that we

00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:55.539
 should be

00:22:55.539 --> 00:22:56.240
 engaging in.

00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.480
 as we

00:22:58.480 --> 00:22:59.039
 seek to

00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:00.039
 understand,

00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:01.160
 as we

00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:01.480
 seek to

00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:02.059
 encourage one

00:23:02.059 --> 00:23:02.599
 another to

00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:03.140
 understand,

00:23:03.620 --> 00:23:05.000
 to grow in

00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:05.400
 truth,

00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:06.400
 and to

00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:07.160
 correct error.

00:23:09.299 --> 00:23:09.980
 And then

00:23:09.980 --> 00:23:10.279
 there's the

00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:10.819
 second sort,

00:23:12.259 --> 00:23:12.660
 the sort

00:23:12.660 --> 00:23:13.700
 that probably

00:23:13.700 --> 00:23:14.319
 I would find

00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:14.779
 the easiest

00:23:14.779 --> 00:23:15.140
 to get

00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:15.680
 involved in.

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 This is

00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:18.579
 the sort

00:23:18.579 --> 00:23:20.480
 that is

00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:21.019
 intellectually

00:23:21.019 --> 00:23:21.599
 enjoyable,

00:23:22.539 --> 00:23:23.099
 but

00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:23.799
 potentially

00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:24.680
 distracting.

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 It's the

00:23:26.539 --> 00:23:26.880
 sort that

00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:27.359
 involves

00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:28.359
 playing about

00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:29.120
 with ideas

00:23:29.120 --> 00:23:30.160
 just for

00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:30.420
 the sheer

00:23:30.420 --> 00:23:30.960
 pleasure of

00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:31.420
 doing so.

00:23:33.539 --> 00:23:34.180
 Sometimes

00:23:34.180 --> 00:23:35.099
 it will

00:23:35.099 --> 00:23:36.079
 provide

00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:36.720
 understanding.

00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:39.240
 Other

00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:39.859
 times,

00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:40.640
 I would

00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:41.299
 suggest

00:23:41.299 --> 00:23:42.799
 it's a

00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:43.140
 perfectly

00:23:43.140 --> 00:23:43.940
 acceptable

00:23:43.940 --> 00:23:45.500
 form of

00:23:45.500 --> 00:23:45.900
 leisure,

00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:47.120
 of celebrating

00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:48.220
 the

00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:50.140
 intellect

00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:50.640
 God has

00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:51.180
 given us.

00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:53.259
 In another

00:23:53.259 --> 00:23:54.299
 context,

00:23:54.579 --> 00:23:55.019
 running a

00:23:55.019 --> 00:23:55.700
 race is

00:23:55.700 --> 00:23:57.420
 essentially

00:23:57.420 --> 00:23:58.720
 pointless,

00:23:59.080 --> 00:23:59.600
 achieves no

00:23:59.600 --> 00:24:00.059
 purpose.

00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:01.920
 And yet

00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:02.519
 Eric Liddell

00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:03.080
 could say,

00:24:03.779 --> 00:24:04.240
 God made

00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:04.880
 me fast,

00:24:05.600 --> 00:24:05.980
 and when

00:24:05.980 --> 00:24:06.460
 I run,

00:24:06.740 --> 00:24:07.120
 I feel

00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:07.779
 his pleasure.

00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:08.920
 And so

00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:09.480
 sometimes

00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:11.140
 just using

00:24:11.140 --> 00:24:12.420
 the gifts

00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:12.900
 God has

00:24:12.900 --> 00:24:13.500
 given us

00:24:13.500 --> 00:24:13.960
 for

00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:14.519
 enjoyment

00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:15.860
 are actually

00:24:15.860 --> 00:24:16.480
 a form of

00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:16.860
 worship.

00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:18.240
 But,

00:24:18.779 --> 00:24:19.759
 but there

00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:20.200
 is danger

00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:20.559
 in it.

00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:22.880
 Firstly,

00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:23.539
 it can serve

00:24:23.539 --> 00:24:23.819
 as a

00:24:23.819 --> 00:24:24.240
 substitute.

00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:25.920
 and a

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:26.400
 distraction

00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:27.259
 from real

00:24:27.259 --> 00:24:29.059
 truth-seeking.

00:24:31.059 --> 00:24:31.680
 It can

00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:32.500
 also result

00:24:32.500 --> 00:24:34.000
 in flippantly

00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.039
 questioning

00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:36.059
 the core

00:24:36.059 --> 00:24:36.380
 of our

00:24:36.380 --> 00:24:36.759
 faith,

00:24:37.700 --> 00:24:38.920
 which to

00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:39.380
 question

00:24:39.380 --> 00:24:40.559
 in the

00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:41.400
 right context,

00:24:41.620 --> 00:24:42.039
 trying to

00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:42.859
 seek understanding

00:24:42.859 --> 00:24:43.660
 is good,

00:24:45.140 --> 00:24:46.339
 but to

00:24:46.339 --> 00:24:46.839
 question

00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:47.539
 as a

00:24:47.539 --> 00:24:47.740
 leisure

00:24:47.740 --> 00:24:48.279
 activity,

00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:50.000
 less so.

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.619
 and

00:24:52.619 --> 00:24:53.319
 particularly

00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:54.059
 caution

00:24:54.059 --> 00:24:54.579
 must be

00:24:54.579 --> 00:24:54.940
 taken

00:24:54.940 --> 00:24:55.920
 if there

00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:56.039
 are

00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:56.640
 others

00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:57.019
 listening

00:24:57.019 --> 00:24:57.299
 in.

00:24:58.900 --> 00:24:59.339
 What to

00:24:59.339 --> 00:24:59.720
 us

00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:00.700
 might

00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:02.640
 be

00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.019
 a

00:25:04.019 --> 00:25:04.440
 discussion

00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:04.779
 that we

00:25:04.779 --> 00:25:04.960
 know

00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:05.440
 exactly

00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:06.920
 what we're

00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:07.279
 doing,

00:25:08.019 --> 00:25:09.119
 to someone

00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:09.460
 else,

00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:10.019
 particularly

00:25:10.019 --> 00:25:10.519
 just hearing

00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:10.839
 a bit

00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:11.259
 of it,

00:25:11.940 --> 00:25:12.940
 might be

00:25:12.940 --> 00:25:13.480
 led down

00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:14.400
 a completely

00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:15.160
 wrong path.

00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:15.259
 truth.

00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:18.560
 And so

00:25:18.560 --> 00:25:19.500
 there I would

00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:20.019
 say we

00:25:20.019 --> 00:25:20.360
 should have

00:25:20.360 --> 00:25:20.740
 caution.

00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:23.120
 But then

00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:23.840
 there's the

00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:24.920
 sort that

00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:25.300
 Paul is

00:25:25.300 --> 00:25:25.800
 talking about

00:25:25.800 --> 00:25:26.080
 here.

00:25:27.180 --> 00:25:28.000
 This is the

00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:28.380
 sort of

00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:29.480
 argument that

00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:29.820
 is not

00:25:29.820 --> 00:25:30.420
 seeking truth

00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:30.800
 at all.

00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:32.279
 This is the

00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:32.560
 sort of

00:25:32.560 --> 00:25:33.100
 argument that

00:25:33.100 --> 00:25:33.440
 seeks to

00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:33.920
 twist the

00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:34.180
 truth,

00:25:34.840 --> 00:25:35.120
 the sort

00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:35.600
 of argument

00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:37.360
 that tries

00:25:37.360 --> 00:25:38.259
 to avoid

00:25:38.259 --> 00:25:38.560
 it,

00:25:38.820 --> 00:25:39.240
 tries to

00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:39.620
 turn it

00:25:39.620 --> 00:25:39.920
 into

00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:40.680
 something

00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:41.620
 completely

00:25:41.620 --> 00:25:42.220
 different.

00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:44.759
 And it's

00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:45.080
 clearly

00:25:45.080 --> 00:25:46.180
 something that

00:25:46.180 --> 00:25:46.880
 Paul takes

00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:47.900
 very seriously.

00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:50.279
 In verse

00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:50.820
 14,

00:25:51.120 --> 00:25:51.759
 he's said

00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:52.320
 to warn

00:25:52.320 --> 00:25:52.920
 them before

00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:53.420
 God.

00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:54.259
 This is the

00:25:54.259 --> 00:25:56.279
 same strong

00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:57.019
 words that

00:25:57.019 --> 00:25:57.460
 he's going to

00:25:57.460 --> 00:25:57.860
 use to

00:25:57.860 --> 00:25:58.840
 Timothy in

00:25:58.840 --> 00:25:59.580
 chapter 4.

00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:01.140
 This is a

00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:02.500
 solemn charge

00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:02.880
 to them.

00:26:02.980 --> 00:26:03.440
 This is not

00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:03.960
 just a

00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:05.000
 maybe encourage

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:05.500
 them slightly.

00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:08.580
 So if it's

00:26:08.580 --> 00:26:09.300
 this important,

00:26:09.299 --> 00:26:10.180
 why?

00:26:11.180 --> 00:26:11.899
 Why does

00:26:11.899 --> 00:26:12.299
 it matter?

00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:14.919
 I think

00:26:14.919 --> 00:26:16.319
 Paul gives

00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:17.119
 three reasons

00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:17.899
 although they're

00:26:17.899 --> 00:26:18.559
 essentially all

00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:18.859
 one.

00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:20.440
 In verse

00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:21.059
 14,

00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:22.359
 we read,

00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:23.819
 it only ruins

00:26:23.819 --> 00:26:24.599
 those who

00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:24.940
 listen.

00:26:26.740 --> 00:26:27.099
 And in

00:26:27.099 --> 00:26:27.879
 verse 16,

00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:29.059
 those who

00:26:29.059 --> 00:26:29.639
 indulge in

00:26:29.639 --> 00:26:30.200
 it will

00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:31.379
 become more

00:26:31.379 --> 00:26:32.159
 and more

00:26:32.159 --> 00:26:33.059
 ungodly.

00:26:34.220 --> 00:26:35.039
 And in

00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:35.759
 verse 18,

00:26:36.460 --> 00:26:37.359
 they destroy

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:38.539
 the faith

00:26:38.539 --> 00:26:39.359
 of some.

00:26:41.899 --> 00:26:42.740
 What Paul

00:26:42.740 --> 00:26:43.200
 is saying

00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:43.740
 loud and

00:26:43.740 --> 00:26:44.420
 clear here

00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:45.480
 is that

00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:45.920
 the truth

00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:46.799
 matters.

00:26:48.159 --> 00:26:49.139
 It's not

00:26:49.139 --> 00:26:51.059
 a matter

00:26:51.059 --> 00:26:52.720
 of mere

00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:53.379
 interest

00:26:53.379 --> 00:26:53.899
 whether you

00:26:53.899 --> 00:26:54.440
 believe the

00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:55.440
 teachings of

00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:56.279
 Jesus Christ

00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:57.039
 or Joseph

00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:57.460
 Smith.

00:26:58.639 --> 00:26:59.639
 What is at

00:26:59.639 --> 00:27:00.299
 stake here

00:27:00.299 --> 00:27:01.359
 is salvation,

00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:02.839
 the eternal

00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:04.159
 destinies of

00:27:04.159 --> 00:27:04.799
 those who are

00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:06.019
 deceived by

00:27:06.019 --> 00:27:06.680
 false teaching?

00:27:09.379 --> 00:27:10.319
 If we were

00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:10.879
 to teach

00:27:10.879 --> 00:27:12.180
 that all

00:27:12.180 --> 00:27:13.139
 ways lead

00:27:13.139 --> 00:27:13.639
 to God,

00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:15.740
 that the

00:27:15.740 --> 00:27:16.819
 gospel doesn't

00:27:16.819 --> 00:27:17.980
 involve a

00:27:17.980 --> 00:27:18.359
 call to

00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:18.799
 repentance,

00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:20.339
 to a changed

00:27:20.339 --> 00:27:20.839
 life,

00:27:21.379 --> 00:27:23.220
 that there

00:27:23.220 --> 00:27:24.819
 is no

00:27:24.819 --> 00:27:25.819
 future

00:27:25.819 --> 00:27:26.319
 punishment,

00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:28.759
 that God

00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:29.379
 wants us

00:27:29.379 --> 00:27:30.000
 all to be

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.319
 healthy and

00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:31.740
 rich,

00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:33.299
 if we

00:27:33.299 --> 00:27:33.599
 were to

00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:34.220
 teach such

00:27:34.220 --> 00:27:34.720
 things and

00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:35.519
 many others

00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.099
 instead of

00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:38.559
 holding out

00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:38.880
 the truth

00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:39.140
 of the

00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:39.500
 gospel,

00:27:40.700 --> 00:27:41.180
 truth that

00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:42.039
 warns of

00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:42.500
 that coming

00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:42.900
 judgment,

00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:43.400
 but truth

00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:43.980
 that also

00:27:43.980 --> 00:27:45.079
 offers full

00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:45.839
 and free

00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:46.519
 salvation,

00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:47.779
 we're giving

00:27:47.779 --> 00:27:48.440
 false hope.

00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:51.200
 We're causing

00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:52.519
 those who

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:52.940
 know the

00:27:52.940 --> 00:27:53.539
 truth to

00:27:53.539 --> 00:27:53.880
 doubt.

00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:56.279
 And so

00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:56.799
 this is

00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.420
 really vitally

00:27:58.420 --> 00:27:59.299
 important.

00:27:59.299 --> 00:28:03.039
 Paul gives

00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:03.419
 us a bit

00:28:03.419 --> 00:28:03.839
 of a case

00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:04.480
 study here

00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:05.980
 in verses

00:28:05.980 --> 00:28:07.980
 17 and

00:28:07.980 --> 00:28:08.419
 18.

00:28:10.779 --> 00:28:11.579
 He writes

00:28:11.579 --> 00:28:11.919
 here of

00:28:11.919 --> 00:28:12.639
 two teachers,

00:28:14.059 --> 00:28:14.720
 Hymenaeus

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:15.899
 and Philetus.

00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:18.039
 Hymenaeus,

00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:18.779
 he mentioned

00:28:18.779 --> 00:28:20.359
 back in his

00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:20.899
 first letter

00:28:20.899 --> 00:28:21.500
 to Timothy,

00:28:22.139 --> 00:28:22.919
 at that time

00:28:22.919 --> 00:28:23.359
 as a

00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:23.960
 blasphemer

00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:25.019
 who had

00:28:25.019 --> 00:28:25.559
 shipwrecked

00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:26.139
 his faith,

00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:26.799
 and he's

00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:27.339
 still there.

00:28:28.220 --> 00:28:28.720
 He's still

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:29.220
 doing the

00:28:29.220 --> 00:28:29.740
 same thing.

00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:32.079
 And what

00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:32.339
 they are

00:28:32.339 --> 00:28:33.039
 teaching here

00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.019
 is that

00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:34.700
 the resurrection

00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:36.079
 has already

00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:37.220
 taken place.

00:28:39.339 --> 00:28:40.000
 It would

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:40.660
 be obvious

00:28:40.660 --> 00:28:41.579
 to all of

00:28:41.579 --> 00:28:42.039
 them there

00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.059
 that this

00:28:44.059 --> 00:28:44.779
 is not

00:28:44.779 --> 00:28:46.400
 true in

00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:46.839
 a literal

00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:47.460
 sense,

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.160
 because

00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:50.700
 Stephen

00:28:50.700 --> 00:28:51.759
 and other

00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:52.400
 martyrs are

00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:52.779
 not coming

00:28:52.779 --> 00:28:53.180
 to preach

00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:53.539
 to them.

00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:55.160
 And

00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:56.240
 they are

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:57.180
 clearly still

00:28:57.180 --> 00:28:58.160
 living

00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.100
 in ordinary

00:29:00.100 --> 00:29:01.560
 fallen bodies,

00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:02.380
 in an

00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:02.740
 ordinary

00:29:02.740 --> 00:29:03.660
 fallen world,

00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:04.519
 with all

00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:05.160
 the evil,

00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:05.900
 sin,

00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:06.500
 pain,

00:29:06.600 --> 00:29:07.100
 and suffering

00:29:07.100 --> 00:29:07.740
 around them.

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:09.960
 And so

00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:10.299
 when they're

00:29:10.299 --> 00:29:10.920
 teaching that

00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:11.560
 the resurrection

00:29:11.560 --> 00:29:12.240
 has already

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:12.700
 happened,

00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:14.940
 they're actually

00:29:14.940 --> 00:29:15.519
 saying that the

00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:16.200
 resurrection is

00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:16.840
 no resurrection

00:29:16.840 --> 00:29:17.380
 at all.

00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:18.920
 They're saying,

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:19.460
 well,

00:29:20.120 --> 00:29:21.380
 it doesn't

00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:22.140
 really mean

00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:22.380
 that.

00:29:22.380 --> 00:29:23.080
 it's just

00:29:23.080 --> 00:29:23.680
 a metaphor,

00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:24.500
 a metaphor

00:29:24.500 --> 00:29:25.820
 for some

00:29:25.820 --> 00:29:26.880
 spiritual

00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:27.480
 mystery.

00:29:30.180 --> 00:29:30.980
 But then

00:29:30.980 --> 00:29:32.860
 there's no

00:29:32.860 --> 00:29:33.540
 future hope.

00:29:35.620 --> 00:29:36.300
 As Paul

00:29:36.300 --> 00:29:36.840
 said to the

00:29:36.840 --> 00:29:37.280
 Corinthians,

00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:38.680
 if there is

00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:39.640
 no resurrection,

00:29:41.500 --> 00:29:41.760
 then,

00:29:42.580 --> 00:29:43.640
 what does he

00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:44.000
 say again?

00:29:46.120 --> 00:29:46.600
 Sorry?

00:29:46.860 --> 00:29:47.680
 Our hope is in vain.

00:29:48.140 --> 00:29:48.580
 Exactly.

00:29:48.840 --> 00:29:49.660
 Our hope is in vain.

00:29:49.660 --> 00:29:50.740
 So,

00:29:53.380 --> 00:29:54.300
 if the

00:29:54.300 --> 00:29:54.700
 resurrection

00:29:54.700 --> 00:29:55.400
 has happened,

00:29:56.460 --> 00:29:56.680
 well,

00:29:56.700 --> 00:29:57.060
 it's not a

00:29:57.060 --> 00:29:57.500
 resurrection.

00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:00.600
 But also,

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:01.960
 they're continuing

00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:02.540
 the lie

00:30:02.540 --> 00:30:03.660
 that the

00:30:03.660 --> 00:30:04.540
 physical world,

00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:05.420
 the physical

00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:05.900
 body,

00:30:06.320 --> 00:30:06.900
 didn't matter.

00:30:07.900 --> 00:30:08.460
 And by doing

00:30:08.460 --> 00:30:08.720
 that,

00:30:08.779 --> 00:30:09.400
 they're essentially

00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:09.880
 saying,

00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:11.580
 what we do

00:30:11.580 --> 00:30:12.300
 with our bodies

00:30:12.300 --> 00:30:13.160
 doesn't matter.

00:30:14.340 --> 00:30:15.200
 That there's

00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:15.740
 no need

00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:16.640
 for change,

00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:17.840
 for repentance,

00:30:18.580 --> 00:30:19.560
 for sanctification,

00:30:19.660 --> 00:30:19.940
 because,

00:30:20.100 --> 00:30:20.180
 well,

00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:21.320
 this body,

00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:23.540
 we can forget

00:30:23.540 --> 00:30:24.040
 about it.

00:30:26.180 --> 00:30:26.779
 And so,

00:30:26.860 --> 00:30:27.220
 essentially,

00:30:27.360 --> 00:30:27.900
 they were teaching

00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:28.460
 the lie

00:30:28.460 --> 00:30:29.880
 that our world

00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:30.440
 would teach us

00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:30.779
 today.

00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:32.500
 That what we

00:30:32.500 --> 00:30:33.600
 believe is a

00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:34.920
 purely personal,

00:30:35.420 --> 00:30:36.279
 internal matter.

00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:38.920
 It should have

00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.120
 no impact

00:30:40.120 --> 00:30:41.360
 on how we

00:30:41.360 --> 00:30:41.740
 act,

00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:43.480
 and it has

00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:44.160
 absolutely no

00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:45.540
 relevance to

00:30:45.540 --> 00:30:46.080
 do with the

00:30:46.080 --> 00:30:47.460
 realities of

00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:48.259
 life and death.

00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:51.140
 And so,

00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:51.680
 it's easy

00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:52.640
 to see

00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:53.840
 how such

00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:54.259
 teaching

00:30:54.259 --> 00:30:55.200
 could have

00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:55.860
 devastating

00:30:55.860 --> 00:30:56.920
 impact

00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:57.759
 on the

00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:58.140
 faith of

00:30:58.140 --> 00:30:58.500
 those who

00:30:58.500 --> 00:30:59.019
 heard them.

00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:01.240
 Especially

00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:02.420
 if they had

00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:02.940
 not been

00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:03.320
 grounded

00:31:03.320 --> 00:31:04.240
 in sound

00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:04.640
 teaching,

00:31:05.140 --> 00:31:05.759
 if they were

00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:06.259
 not being

00:31:06.259 --> 00:31:06.840
 repeatedly

00:31:06.840 --> 00:31:07.840
 reminded

00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:08.680
 of the

00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:09.019
 truth of

00:31:09.019 --> 00:31:09.480
 the gospel,

00:31:10.040 --> 00:31:10.580
 if they

00:31:10.580 --> 00:31:10.920
 did not

00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:11.320
 have that

00:31:11.320 --> 00:31:11.860
 foundation

00:31:11.860 --> 00:31:13.220
 to realize

00:31:13.220 --> 00:31:14.240
 that this

00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:14.620
 could not

00:31:14.620 --> 00:31:15.120
 be true.

00:31:19.579 --> 00:31:20.240
 And I'm

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.160
 aware of

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:22.700
 the danger

00:31:22.700 --> 00:31:24.140
 in some of

00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:24.440
 the things

00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:24.720
 I've been

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:25.019
 saying.

00:31:27.220 --> 00:31:28.019
 I've talked

00:31:28.019 --> 00:31:28.559
 of those

00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:29.519
 who have

00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:30.059
 walked away

00:31:30.059 --> 00:31:30.480
 from their

00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:30.839
 faith.

00:31:32.420 --> 00:31:33.180
 Paul has

00:31:33.180 --> 00:31:33.600
 talked of

00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:35.100
 those who

00:31:35.100 --> 00:31:35.660
 hear false

00:31:35.660 --> 00:31:36.299
 teachings been

00:31:36.299 --> 00:31:38.039
 ruined and

00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:38.620
 their faith

00:31:38.620 --> 00:31:39.380
 destroyed.

00:31:39.380 --> 00:31:41.880
 and I've

00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:42.320
 talked of

00:31:42.320 --> 00:31:42.900
 the necessity

00:31:42.900 --> 00:31:44.220
 to constantly

00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:45.620
 remind one

00:31:45.620 --> 00:31:46.160
 another of

00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:46.660
 the gospel

00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:47.940
 that we

00:31:47.940 --> 00:31:48.760
 too will

00:31:48.760 --> 00:31:49.420
 not fall.

00:31:51.100 --> 00:31:52.020
 But this

00:31:52.020 --> 00:31:52.980
 passage finishes

00:31:52.980 --> 00:31:54.480
 with a verse

00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:55.380
 that at once

00:31:55.380 --> 00:31:55.800
 gives us

00:31:55.800 --> 00:31:56.520
 reassurance

00:31:56.520 --> 00:31:58.340
 and challenge.

00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:00.660
 In verse

00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:01.240
 19,

00:32:03.520 --> 00:32:04.120
 God's

00:32:04.120 --> 00:32:04.900
 solid

00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:05.620
 foundation

00:32:05.620 --> 00:32:06.540
 stands

00:32:06.540 --> 00:32:06.880
 firm.

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.120
 however

00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:09.960
 dangerous

00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:10.860
 these false

00:32:10.860 --> 00:32:11.180
 teachers

00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:11.820
 might be.

00:32:13.660 --> 00:32:14.760
 The gospel

00:32:14.760 --> 00:32:16.480
 still stands

00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.220
 and God

00:32:18.220 --> 00:32:18.820
 is still

00:32:18.820 --> 00:32:19.920
 building

00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:20.780
 his church

00:32:20.780 --> 00:32:22.600
 long after

00:32:22.600 --> 00:32:23.380
 we can

00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:23.820
 remember

00:32:23.820 --> 00:32:24.680
 what those

00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:24.920
 false

00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:25.240
 teachers

00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:25.760
 were teaching

00:32:25.760 --> 00:32:26.100
 about.

00:32:28.980 --> 00:32:29.840
 And then

00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:30.140
 it goes

00:32:30.140 --> 00:32:30.520
 on to

00:32:30.520 --> 00:32:30.840
 say,

00:32:31.580 --> 00:32:32.080
 the Lord

00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:33.120
 knows

00:32:33.120 --> 00:32:33.940
 those who

00:32:33.940 --> 00:32:34.400
 are his.

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.400
 as Jesus

00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.420
 said,

00:32:39.540 --> 00:32:40.220
 recorded in

00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:41.000
 John's

00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:41.380
 gospel,

00:32:41.600 --> 00:32:41.980
 I know

00:32:41.980 --> 00:32:43.360
 them and

00:32:43.360 --> 00:32:43.800
 they follow

00:32:43.800 --> 00:32:44.120
 me.

00:32:44.420 --> 00:32:44.880
 I give

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:45.460
 them eternal

00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:46.660
 life and

00:32:46.660 --> 00:32:47.000
 they shall

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:47.960
 never perish.

00:32:48.740 --> 00:32:49.259
 No one

00:32:49.259 --> 00:32:50.180
 shall snatch

00:32:50.180 --> 00:32:51.000
 them out

00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:51.740
 of my hand.

00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:53.980
 So if we

00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:54.460
 are his,

00:32:55.560 --> 00:32:56.160
 then our

00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:56.600
 salvation

00:32:56.600 --> 00:32:57.700
 is secure.

00:32:58.800 --> 00:32:59.440
 That

00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:00.800
 can never

00:33:00.800 --> 00:33:01.660
 be taken

00:33:01.660 --> 00:33:02.160
 away from

00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:02.440
 us.

00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.480
 which

00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:05.880
 leaves the

00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:06.340
 question

00:33:06.340 --> 00:33:07.440
 of those

00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:07.660
 who have

00:33:07.660 --> 00:33:08.100
 turned away

00:33:08.100 --> 00:33:08.480
 from their

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:08.779
 faith.

00:33:11.080 --> 00:33:11.740
 To a

00:33:11.740 --> 00:33:11.980
 certain

00:33:11.980 --> 00:33:12.500
 extent,

00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.160
 we are

00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:15.420
 not

00:33:15.420 --> 00:33:15.860
 qualified

00:33:15.860 --> 00:33:17.000
 to

00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:17.500
 understand.

00:33:19.340 --> 00:33:19.860
 However,

00:33:20.360 --> 00:33:21.000
 there are

00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:21.660
 two options.

00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:23.180
 One,

00:33:24.019 --> 00:33:24.600
 they were

00:33:24.600 --> 00:33:25.220
 never saved

00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:25.500
 in the

00:33:25.500 --> 00:33:26.019
 first place.

00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:27.640
 They only

00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:28.480
 were putting

00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:28.940
 on an

00:33:28.940 --> 00:33:29.200
 outward

00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:29.759
 display,

00:33:30.539 --> 00:33:30.940
 an outward

00:33:30.940 --> 00:33:31.680
 display that

00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:32.060
 may have

00:33:32.060 --> 00:33:32.400
 deceived

00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:32.680
 even

00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:33.180
 themselves.

00:33:35.019 --> 00:33:35.660
 Or,

00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:36.900
 they are

00:33:36.900 --> 00:33:38.160
 truly and

00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:38.660
 permanently

00:33:38.660 --> 00:33:41.380
 saved and

00:33:41.380 --> 00:33:42.120
 have temporarily

00:33:42.120 --> 00:33:42.860
 turned away

00:33:42.860 --> 00:33:43.820
 to be brought

00:33:43.820 --> 00:33:44.460
 back again.

00:33:46.420 --> 00:33:47.420
 To a certain

00:33:47.420 --> 00:33:47.840
 extent,

00:33:48.320 --> 00:33:48.880
 as far as

00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:49.160
 we are

00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:49.720
 concerned,

00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:51.820
 it makes

00:33:51.820 --> 00:33:53.460
 little

00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:54.019
 difference.

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:56.279
 Either way,

00:33:56.840 --> 00:33:57.480
 they need to

00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:58.560
 hear once

00:33:58.560 --> 00:33:59.960
 again the

00:33:59.960 --> 00:34:00.680
 gospel that

00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:00.940
 they have

00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:01.380
 rejected.

00:34:02.900 --> 00:34:04.160
 Either to

00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:04.640
 bring them

00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:05.460
 to salvation

00:34:05.460 --> 00:34:06.920
 or to

00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:07.259
 bring them

00:34:07.259 --> 00:34:08.240
 back to

00:34:08.240 --> 00:34:08.700
 a fruitful

00:34:08.700 --> 00:34:09.500
 Christian

00:34:09.500 --> 00:34:10.119
 life.

00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:13.039
 Because,

00:34:13.200 --> 00:34:13.800
 along with

00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:14.019
 this

00:34:14.019 --> 00:34:14.700
 reassurance,

00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:15.639
 there is a

00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:16.079
 challenge.

00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:18.920
 Everyone

00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.920
 who confesses

00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:21.440
 the name of

00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:21.900
 the Lord

00:34:21.900 --> 00:34:23.960
 must turn

00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:24.500
 away from

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:25.079
 wickedness.

00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:29.159
 truth on

00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:29.639
 its own

00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:30.579
 is not

00:34:30.579 --> 00:34:30.940
 enough.

00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:33.299
 It's not

00:34:33.299 --> 00:34:33.699
 an option,

00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:34.179
 in fact.

00:34:35.219 --> 00:34:35.599
 Truth

00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:36.599
 demands a

00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:37.139
 response.

00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:39.039
 And that

00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:40.840
 response must

00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:42.219
 result in

00:34:42.219 --> 00:34:42.860
 transformation.

00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:42.960
 salvation.

00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:49.720
 And so that

00:34:49.720 --> 00:34:50.360
 gets us to

00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:51.660
 the end of

00:34:51.660 --> 00:34:52.240
 this passage

00:34:52.240 --> 00:34:52.579
 here.

00:34:53.620 --> 00:34:54.320
 But what

00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:55.000
 can sometimes

00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:56.360
 be frustrating

00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:57.340
 as we read

00:34:57.340 --> 00:34:57.960
 these letters

00:34:57.960 --> 00:34:58.420
 in the New

00:34:58.420 --> 00:34:58.900
 Testament,

00:34:59.480 --> 00:34:59.780
 is we're

00:34:59.780 --> 00:35:00.180
 getting one

00:35:00.180 --> 00:35:00.559
 bit of a

00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.099
 conversation.

00:35:01.680 --> 00:35:02.320
 We don't

00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:02.860
 quite know

00:35:02.860 --> 00:35:03.400
 what happened

00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:03.860
 before,

00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:05.079
 can make

00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:06.200
 some guesses

00:35:06.200 --> 00:35:07.260
 on some

00:35:07.260 --> 00:35:07.860
 other things,

00:35:08.260 --> 00:35:08.780
 and we don't

00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:09.539
 really know

00:35:09.539 --> 00:35:10.220
 what happened

00:35:10.220 --> 00:35:10.840
 afterwards.

00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:12.420
 how they

00:35:12.420 --> 00:35:13.079
 were received.

00:35:14.220 --> 00:35:14.740
 Did this

00:35:14.740 --> 00:35:15.079
 have the

00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:16.059
 desired effect?

00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:18.420
 In this

00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:18.820
 case,

00:35:19.100 --> 00:35:19.559
 actually,

00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:20.220
 we do

00:35:20.220 --> 00:35:20.440
 know.

00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:23.000
 Because

00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:24.340
 probably around

00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:25.019
 about 15

00:35:25.019 --> 00:35:25.640
 years later

00:35:25.640 --> 00:35:26.079
 or so,

00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:28.559
 John is

00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:29.100
 in exile

00:35:29.100 --> 00:35:29.760
 on Patmos.

00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:31.800
 And he

00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:32.519
 receives there

00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:33.059
 a vision

00:35:33.059 --> 00:35:33.700
 of the

00:35:33.700 --> 00:35:34.519
 risen Christ

00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:35.400
 who gives

00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:36.019
 him messages

00:35:36.019 --> 00:35:37.660
 for several

00:35:37.660 --> 00:35:38.280
 of the

00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:38.620
 churches.

00:35:38.619 --> 00:35:38.779
 churches.

00:35:39.980 --> 00:35:40.819
 The first

00:35:40.819 --> 00:35:41.339
 of these

00:35:41.339 --> 00:35:42.659
 is to

00:35:42.659 --> 00:35:43.659
 this church,

00:35:44.219 --> 00:35:44.719
 the church

00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:45.400
 in Ephesus.

00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:48.259
 And we

00:35:48.259 --> 00:35:48.559
 read,

00:35:49.219 --> 00:35:50.420
 these are

00:35:50.420 --> 00:35:50.859
 the words

00:35:50.859 --> 00:35:51.339
 of him

00:35:51.339 --> 00:35:51.960
 who holds

00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:52.380
 the seven

00:35:52.380 --> 00:35:52.960
 stars in

00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:53.319
 his right

00:35:53.319 --> 00:35:55.039
 hand and

00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:55.599
 walks among

00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:56.019
 the seven

00:35:56.019 --> 00:35:57.199
 golden lampstands.

00:35:57.799 --> 00:35:58.599
 I know

00:35:58.599 --> 00:35:59.159
 your deeds,

00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:00.259
 your hard

00:36:00.259 --> 00:36:00.619
 work,

00:36:00.819 --> 00:36:01.199
 and your

00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:01.779
 perseverance.

00:36:02.839 --> 00:36:03.679
 I know

00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:03.960
 that you

00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:04.719
 cannot tolerate

00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:05.420
 wicked people

00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:07.059
 and that

00:36:07.059 --> 00:36:07.339
 you have

00:36:07.340 --> 00:36:08.400
 tested those

00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:09.160
 who claim

00:36:09.160 --> 00:36:09.460
 to be

00:36:09.460 --> 00:36:10.640
 apostles but

00:36:10.640 --> 00:36:11.380
 are not

00:36:11.380 --> 00:36:12.200
 and have

00:36:12.200 --> 00:36:12.720
 found them

00:36:12.720 --> 00:36:13.140
 false.

00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:15.039
 You have

00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:15.740
 persevered

00:36:15.740 --> 00:36:17.019
 and have

00:36:17.019 --> 00:36:17.480
 endured

00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:18.579
 hardships

00:36:18.579 --> 00:36:19.360
 for my

00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.260
 name and

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:20.620
 have not

00:36:20.620 --> 00:36:21.240
 grown weary.

00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:23.720
 And so,

00:36:24.640 --> 00:36:25.460
 it seems

00:36:25.460 --> 00:36:25.860
 the warnings

00:36:25.860 --> 00:36:26.500
 had effect.

00:36:27.780 --> 00:36:28.160
 The false

00:36:28.160 --> 00:36:29.420
 teachers that

00:36:29.420 --> 00:36:30.519
 Paul had

00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:31.000
 warned the

00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:31.780
 elders about

00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:32.760
 way back

00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:33.440
 at Miletus,

00:36:33.740 --> 00:36:34.220
 that he'd

00:36:34.220 --> 00:36:34.700
 written to

00:36:34.700 --> 00:36:35.380
 Timothy about

00:36:35.380 --> 00:36:36.000
 in his first

00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:36.380
 letter,

00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:37.039
 and that

00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:37.500
 Timothy was

00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:37.900
 still

00:36:37.900 --> 00:36:38.619
 struggling

00:36:38.619 --> 00:36:39.460
 with when

00:36:39.460 --> 00:36:39.780
 he writes

00:36:39.780 --> 00:36:40.200
 his second

00:36:40.200 --> 00:36:40.559
 letter.

00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:42.260
 It seems

00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:42.599
 that they've

00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:42.920
 been dealt

00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:43.220
 with.

00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:44.680
 They have

00:36:44.680 --> 00:36:45.480
 recognized the

00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:46.099
 false teachers

00:36:46.099 --> 00:36:48.019
 and they've

00:36:48.019 --> 00:36:49.680
 rejected them

00:36:49.680 --> 00:36:50.280
 and their

00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:50.619
 teaching.

00:36:52.200 --> 00:36:52.760
 So,

00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:53.160
 everything's

00:36:53.160 --> 00:36:53.360
 good?

00:36:54.700 --> 00:36:55.260
 Everything's

00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:55.519
 sorted?

00:36:57.460 --> 00:36:58.619
 Not quite.

00:37:00.200 --> 00:37:00.760
 Because,

00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:01.059
 you see,

00:37:01.160 --> 00:37:01.599
 the message

00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.240
 continues.

00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.179
 yet,

00:37:04.179 --> 00:37:05.799
 I hold

00:37:05.799 --> 00:37:06.699
 this against

00:37:06.699 --> 00:37:06.959
 you.

00:37:08.399 --> 00:37:08.759
 You have

00:37:08.759 --> 00:37:09.319
 forsaken

00:37:09.319 --> 00:37:10.199
 the love

00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:11.039
 you had

00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:11.639
 at first.

00:37:13.179 --> 00:37:13.559
 Consider

00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:15.000
 how far

00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:15.639
 you have

00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:16.000
 fallen.

00:37:16.959 --> 00:37:17.479
 Repent

00:37:17.479 --> 00:37:18.779
 and do

00:37:18.779 --> 00:37:19.339
 the things

00:37:19.339 --> 00:37:19.979
 you did

00:37:19.979 --> 00:37:20.500
 at first.

00:37:21.219 --> 00:37:21.739
 If you do

00:37:21.739 --> 00:37:22.339
 not repent,

00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:23.639
 I will come

00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:24.079
 to you

00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:25.419
 and remove

00:37:25.419 --> 00:37:26.299
 your lampstand

00:37:26.299 --> 00:37:26.699
 from its

00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:27.179
 place.

00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:29.719
 And so,

00:37:29.799 --> 00:37:30.079
 what's

00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:30.519
 presented

00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:31.000
 here

00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.319
 is possibly

00:37:33.319 --> 00:37:34.039
 a fate

00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:35.139
 worse

00:37:35.139 --> 00:37:35.759
 than

00:37:35.759 --> 00:37:36.179
 heresy.

00:37:37.359 --> 00:37:38.139
 What they

00:37:38.139 --> 00:37:38.699
 have here

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:39.259
 is an

00:37:39.259 --> 00:37:40.039
 orthodoxy

00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:40.619
 that is

00:37:40.619 --> 00:37:40.899
 dead.

00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:43.039
 They've

00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:43.480
 rejected

00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:44.099
 the false

00:37:44.099 --> 00:37:44.419
 teachers.

00:37:45.259 --> 00:37:45.819
 They've

00:37:45.819 --> 00:37:46.219
 got their

00:37:46.219 --> 00:37:46.719
 theology

00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:47.460
 right.

00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:49.279
 They're

00:37:49.279 --> 00:37:49.639
 teaching

00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:50.440
 the right

00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:50.879
 things.

00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:51.819
 They've

00:37:51.819 --> 00:37:52.319
 ticked all

00:37:52.319 --> 00:37:52.799
 the boxes

00:37:52.799 --> 00:37:54.179
 but they've

00:37:54.179 --> 00:37:54.639
 forgotten

00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.679
 why it

00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:57.099
 matters.

00:37:57.179 --> 00:37:59.399
 they've

00:37:59.399 --> 00:37:59.919
 worked so

00:37:59.919 --> 00:38:00.440
 hard

00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:01.239
 fighting

00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:01.659
 for the

00:38:01.659 --> 00:38:01.980
 truth,

00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:03.000
 opposing

00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:03.480
 those who

00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:03.839
 would teach

00:38:03.839 --> 00:38:04.299
 lies,

00:38:05.500 --> 00:38:06.159
 but they've

00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:06.559
 forgotten

00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.859
 who it

00:38:08.859 --> 00:38:09.279
 is truth

00:38:09.279 --> 00:38:09.639
 about.

00:38:11.759 --> 00:38:12.480
 And so,

00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:12.679
 I would

00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:13.460
 repeat again,

00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:14.460
 truth

00:38:14.460 --> 00:38:15.519
 matters.

00:38:15.859 --> 00:38:16.399
 It really

00:38:16.399 --> 00:38:17.359
 does matter.

00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:18.359
 It's a

00:38:18.359 --> 00:38:18.899
 matter of

00:38:18.899 --> 00:38:20.019
 more than

00:38:20.019 --> 00:38:20.460
 life and

00:38:20.460 --> 00:38:20.819
 death.

00:38:22.319 --> 00:38:23.239
 But truth

00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:24.259
 only matters

00:38:24.259 --> 00:38:25.399
 if we're

00:38:25.399 --> 00:38:25.879
 seeking to

00:38:25.879 --> 00:38:26.440
 learn it,

00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:27.159
 explore,

00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:27.500
 it,

00:38:27.819 --> 00:38:28.719
 understand it,

00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:29.579
 teach it,

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:30.779
 correct error

00:38:30.779 --> 00:38:31.379
 and train

00:38:31.379 --> 00:38:32.500
 others because

00:38:32.500 --> 00:38:33.859
 of our

00:38:33.859 --> 00:38:34.619
 love for

00:38:34.619 --> 00:38:35.039
 Christ.

00:38:35.980 --> 00:38:36.899
 If we do

00:38:36.899 --> 00:38:37.719
 it for any

00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:38.420
 other reason,

00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:40.019
 then quite

00:38:40.019 --> 00:38:40.440
 frankly,

00:38:40.899 --> 00:38:41.460
 we're wasting

00:38:41.460 --> 00:38:42.139
 our time.

00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:44.639
 Knowing the

00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:45.759
 truth inside

00:38:45.759 --> 00:38:46.920
 out will

00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:48.099
 not help

00:38:48.099 --> 00:38:48.519
 us stand

00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:48.940
 secure.

00:38:50.940 --> 00:38:51.659
 Sorry.

00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:53.199
 Will not

00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:53.940
 enable us to

00:38:53.940 --> 00:38:54.779
 stand secure.

00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:55.599
 It will help.

00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:58.739
 truth matters.

00:38:59.219 --> 00:39:00.000
 But what

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:00.719
 matters far

00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.380
 more is

00:39:02.380 --> 00:39:02.639
 that we

00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:03.739
 love the

00:39:03.739 --> 00:39:05.619
 one that

00:39:05.619 --> 00:39:06.059
 the gospel

00:39:06.059 --> 00:39:06.539
 is all

00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:06.920
 about.

00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.700
 God

00:39:08.700 --> 00:39:09.340
 is all

00:39:09.340 --> 00:39:10.380
 about it.

00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:10.619
 And if

00:39:10.619 --> 00:39:10.900
 we're to

00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:11.380
 continue

00:39:11.380 --> 00:39:12.460
 loving him,

00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:13.360
 we need to

00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:13.980
 keep reminding

00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:14.519
 each other

00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:15.480
 of the

00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:16.860
 truth about

00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:17.760
 him so

00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:18.059
 that we can

00:39:18.059 --> 00:39:18.480
 love him,

00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:19.119
 so that we

00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:19.840
 can tell

00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:20.200
 each other

00:39:20.200 --> 00:39:20.680
 about him,

00:39:21.180 --> 00:39:21.500
 so that we

00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:22.139
 can love

00:39:22.139 --> 00:39:22.400
 him.

00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.000
 And it

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:25.460
 feeds back

00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:26.019
 and forwards.

00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:28.139
 So once

00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:28.519
 again,

00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:30.380
 tell me the

00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:30.599
 old,

00:39:30.659 --> 00:39:31.180
 old story

00:39:31.180 --> 00:39:32.360
 of Jesus

00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:33.420
 and his

00:39:33.420 --> 00:39:33.700
 love.

00:39:34.220 --> 00:39:34.519
 Amen.