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 Okay, well listen, thank you for just the opportunity to be able to spend this day with you.

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 It's been, it has been, it's always a little extra work that I don't mind putting in, coming to outside things.

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 But in particular, I'm just so thankful that you gave me, whether you know it or not,

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 the opportunity to just spend the last few weeks thinking more about prayer.

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 So thank you for that.

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 And whether or not, I mean, I hope you get a boatload of stuff out of this spiritually today.

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 But even if you get nothing, I've been massively blessed just in my preparation.

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 So thank you for that.

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 The title of this session, and I'm not quite sure if it's your title for the day or whatever,

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 is Being a People of Prayer.

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 And I don't know how you can be a church.

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 I don't know how you can be a Christian without having some hunger for developing your relationship with God.

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 I don't know that you, as a Christian or as a church, cannot be a people of prayer.

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 Can you?

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 I mean, I don't know if that's possible.

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 It's just such a central part of everything that we are.

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 So good theme, good value if it's one of your values.

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 I think it's interesting that this is a value of yours because we have six core values at Corroboros.

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 We have kind of a, as many churches have done in recent days,

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 tried to think through maybe more of our unique place in the city or our unique place in the body

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 or what is our unique calling because of the kind of people that are a part of our believing community or whatever.

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 We've come up with mission and vision statements and values.

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 And we have six core values at Corroboros.

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 And one of them is being committed to developing a people of prayer.

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 Isn't that interesting?

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 As I've looked through loads of different websites over the years, thankfully, thankfully,

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 some kind of commitment to developing our prayer lives is usually there somewhere in a church's DNA.

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 And that's good because it just, it has to be.

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 And yet it's interesting as well that even though we all know this is important,

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 we also know, I think, that you can't force people into prayer, can you?

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 You can't.

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 I know as a pastor, I don't know if Graham feels this way as well,

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 I know I'm prone, even though I don't like it,

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 I can be prone to guilt tripping people into things.

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 You know what I mean by that?

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 You know, and you just, you know, there's only five people at the prayer meeting this week

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 and we die without prayer.

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 So, you know, where are you?

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 And trying to get people to be motivated by, I don't know, raising my voice or stomping my feet or whatever.

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 You can't do that.

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 You can't.

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 Prayer is not something you can guilt trip people into.

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 Prayer isn't even something that you can force people into.

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 I'm not even quite sure prayer is necessarily something you can teach people into.

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 Does that sound strange?

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 I'm not.

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 When you think about it, I'm not even quite.

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 I mean, we need to know what the Bible says about it,

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 but I'm not quite sure that's the way in.

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 I think rather prayer is primarily a function of a developing relationship with Christ.

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 Think about that.

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 I think it's a function.

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 It's not like a thing, you know, that you have to do is, you know, tick that box as a Christian.

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 I think it's more a function of our relationship with Christ.

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 And I see it both as an inworking.

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 It's an inworking of our relationship with Christ in the sense that the more we pray,

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 the deeper our relationship will become.

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 Is that fair?

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 The more we pray, the more time we spend with God,

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 the more we talk to him and listen to him, which is what I think prayer is,

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 the deeper our relationship.

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 So it's an inworking of our relationship with Christ.

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 But I also think it's an outworking.

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 Think about it.

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 Think about it.

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 Think about it.

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 It's an outworking of our relationship with Christ as well in the sense that the deeper our relationship gets,

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 the more we'll pray.

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 Does that make sense?

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 You know, and just think about relationships.

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 Just think about what it is to have relationships or the lack of relationships.

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 And why would you why would a relationship not grow?

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 What things are involved in making a relationship strong?

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 And so I think prayer is essentially an inworking and an outworking of a relationship with Christ.

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 And I guess one of the verses that really captures this for me,

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 even though it's not necessarily a prayer verse per se,

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 is John 15 verse five.

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 Which says, I am the vine.

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 You are the branches.

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 This is Jesus speaking.

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 He who abides in me and I in him.

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 He bears much fruit.

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 For apart from me, you can do nothing.

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 And I'd like to suggest to you that that maybe more than anything helps us understand how utterly dependent we are on God.

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 How utterly dependent we are on him.

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 Your theme for today is, and I think it's your value that you have,

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 is walking with God in prayer more dependently.

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 Isn't that interesting?

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 You recognize this or whoever wrote the statement recognizes this.

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 That a huge part, and I'm not quite sure that we understand this as believers as much as we need to.

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 A huge part of what prayer is has to do with our dependence on God.

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 I guess for years, I don't know how you view prayer.

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 I don't know how you do prayer.

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 Usually corporately, we do prayer fairly similarly.

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 We get into groups or we sit in a big circle or we pray as a congregation.

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 But, and this is sometimes hard, but it would be amazing if at some point today,

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 you could share with somebody else what your personal prayer life is like.

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 Now that's very personal, isn't it?

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 Ooh, and I don't even know if Scottish people do that.

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 Personal.

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 Ooh, you know, deep and meaningful.

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 Do you do deep and meaningful?

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 I don't know.

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 But it would be really, really amazing if you could go there, even a little bit go there.

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 What is it?

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 What are the dynamics of your prayer life like?

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 Where do you go?

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 What do you do?

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 What do you say?

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 What do you think?

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 Do you ever talk about that with anybody?

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 I rarely talk with people about the intimate dynamics of my prayer life.

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 And yet I think we're missing a huge opportunity as believers to share something that could be encouraging.

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 It could be motivating.

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 For years, I viewed my prayer mainly as just my, it was my connection with God.

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 That's kind of how I, it was my, that's where I connected with God.

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 I would, I'd go someplace and I'd connect with God, Him and me.

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 Or I may have viewed it, and many do, as my access to His power source.

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 You know what I mean?

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 The, the, the, what's, what's the, the, the, the, the, the quote that prayer is the, the slender nerve that moves the muscle of omnipotence.

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 Remember that?

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 Isn't that big?

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 Prayer is the slender nerve that moves the muscle of omnipotence.

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 That's a, that's a good one.

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 And I'm, listen, I'm sure that's true.

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 But far more than that, I have come to believe, maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong.

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 But I think scripture backs me up on this.

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 Far more than that, I've come to believe that maybe more than anything, prayer is an expression of how much I know I can't do anything without Christ.

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 Let that settle on you for just a minute.

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 Maybe more than anything.

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 I'm making this suggestion, you can come back on me today on this one if you want.

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 That maybe more than anything, prayer is my expression of how much I know, John 15, 5, how much I know.

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 Not just it's a nice verse and yeah, you kind of pay it lip service, but how much I know.

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 I can't do anything without God.

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 And I think this is proven out in our lives, don't you?

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 I think this is proven out.

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 I think we can test this theory out in our own lives.

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 Because why is it when, for me anyway, maybe not for you, but I'll be personal.

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 Because I don't know, you guys haven't shared your personal prayer lives with me.

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 Maybe we'll talk about that a little bit in our break or whatever together.

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 But for me, why is it when things are going just swimmingly in my life?

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 Thank you.

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 It doesn't always work that way, but there are seasons where things are going swimmingly in my life.

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 Why is it that during those seasons, I really struggle to pray?

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 Is that fair?

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 One of the places that I struggle to pray more than anywhere else is on holiday.

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 I got all these grand ideas for the books I'm going to read and the time that I'm going to spend with God.

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 And my mother lives in Florida.

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 So we go there.

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 I didn't get this tanned in Edinburgh.

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 Alright?

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 So we go there.

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 And I've got all these grand plans.

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 And I'm relaxing.

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 And I have all the time that I need.

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 I'm not going to work.

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 I don't have any messages to prepare.

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 I'm not visiting anybody.

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 I've got all this time.

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 And I'm just thinking, this is going to be amazing.

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 And I've got these ideas for how I'm going to pray.

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 And I struggle more on holiday to find time or spend time with God than anywhere.

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 Why is that?

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 Why is that?

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 I don't know if you've found that.

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 And yet, when the absolute bottom falls out of my world.

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 And that happens occasionally as well.

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 When the absolute bottom falls out of my world.

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 Man, you can't get me off my knees.

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 You can't get me off my knees.

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 What's that all about?

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 What is that saying?

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 I think it's saying that our prayer lives are probably one of the greatest barometers anywhere of our level of real dependence on God.

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 So if I'm not praying, then who am I depending on?

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 I'm depending on me.

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 Let me share a little bit more about this in my seminar.

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 And I've shared this with you guys, I'm sure, before on and off through the years.

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 But about 15 years ago, I had a nervous breakdown.

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 Never even knew what one was.

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 Never particularly wanted to have one.

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 But I had a nervous breakdown.

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 I was out of the ministry for almost a year.

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 Never thought that I would ever go back.

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 I couldn't even take a visitor in my house.

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 When one of the elders came to visit me, I ran upstairs to my room, literally, to hide.

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 Never thought I'd ever go back to ministry again.

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 And people asked me, I remember at the time and over the years as I've shared that,

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 do I know why I had a nervous breakdown?

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 It's a good question, isn't it?

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 Don't ask somebody who's having a nervous breakdown why they're having a nervous breakdown

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 or they'll just have a worse nervous breakdown.

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 Okay?

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 But people have asked, you know, because I think people have had nervous breakdowns

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 or anxiety or panic or depression or whatever.

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 Why?

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 Why may that have been the case for me?

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 And I think there are probably loads of reasons as I look back and reflect on it.

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 But one reason that I'm almost certain is true.

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 Is that over the years, I believe that I had drifted into a pretty extreme life of self-dependence

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 and self-reliance as a pastor.

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 During the time that I had off work, which was a long time, I had a lot of time to think.

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 And as I reflected back on my relationship with Christ,

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 I had a lot of time to pray as well, particularly in the acute periods of my anxiety,

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 all I did was pray.

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 And, you know, I just thought I hadn't been praying for my sermons.

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 I can think about numerous times walking up to a pulpit and just thinking,

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 I haven't even prayed over this message.

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 Why?

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 Well, I've done it hundreds of times.

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 I could do it.

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 I've done it hundreds of times.

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 You know, what do I need God for?

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 I can do it.

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 See what I mean?

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 You start doing life that way.

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 And yeah, I don't know if you're on a road to a nervous breakdown,

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 but you're not in a good place.

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 So I hadn't been praying for my ministry.

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 I hadn't been praying for my family.

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 I hadn't been praying for my own relationship with Christ.

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 And it came to a head for me in Romania

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 when I'd been invited over to speak at the Bible school there

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 on guess what subject?

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 Prayer.

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 They'd asked me to go over in prayer.

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 And I spoke on prayer for a week, spoke on the Lord's Prayer.

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 And all these young people were coming up,

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 and they were like,

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 oh, you know, I'd never thought of these things.

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 This is changing my prayer life, they were telling me.

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 This is changing my prayer life.

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 And I'm thinking deep inside my own heart,

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 my prayer life's a mess.

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 My prayer life's a mess.

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 I don't know that it had been so weak.

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 And I had been in the ministry for 12 years by that point in time.

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 Say, how do you do that?

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 Well, I'm sure you've got a parallel somewhere in your life.

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 You don't have to be a pastor to struggle with prayer.

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 Okay, my text for this morning is Mark 9.

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 So turn to Mark 9.

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 Okay, we've got a few minutes,

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 but text here, Mark 9.

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 I'm going to pick it up in verse 14.

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 Okay, so Mark 9, you there?

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 Mark 9, verse 14.

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 This is coming on the back of Peter and James and John,

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 just having been up the mountain with Jesus.

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 Remember?

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 When he has been transfigured into something.

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 Not quite sure anybody really can unpack this perfectly,

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 but he's transfigured into...

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 We know that something of his glory was veiled.

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 We often talk about that when we look at Philippians 2,

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 and the kenosis of Christ, or the emptying of Christ,

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 and something of his glory is veiled as he comes into the world.

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 But here in Mark 9,

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 and on this mountain experience that Peter and James and John

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 have the privilege of being a part of,

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 Jesus is transfigured into something,

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 not what it was,

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 of a manifestation of that outward glory.

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 So it has to be, right?

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 Because he's literally shining.

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 He is literally glowing.

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 His garments, it says, becomes brighter than anything on earth.

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 So there's something going on here of a manifestation of the greatness of God,

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 and the greatness of who Jesus is,

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 as God in human flesh.

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 And it's so staggering,

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 it literally knocks these guys off their feet as God speaks from heaven.

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 And they're literally floored.

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 They're literally floored.

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 I don't know if you've ever been floored by God,

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 but they are literally floored by God.

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 Once in my life I remember being floored by God.

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 When my parents finally got saved after years of praying for them,

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 and literally falling on my face before the Lord.

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 I said, well, Lord, that's it.

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 I said, take me now.

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 You know, I felt as though I'd seen everything I needed.

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 These guys were floored by God.

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 And then Mark picks it up in verse 14.

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 So that's the context.

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 Mark then picks it up in verse 14.

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 He says, when they came back to the disciples,

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 so they came down off the mountain and back,

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 the disciples were there,

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 and they were gathered.

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 There was a large crowd had gathered around them,

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 and there were some scribes there that were arguing with them.

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 And it says, immediately when the entire crowd saw Jesus,

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 so Peter, James, John, Jesus, all coming down from the mountain,

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 they saw Jesus, they were amazed,

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 and began running up to greet Him.

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 He had performed many miracles by this time.

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 He was becoming more and more well-known.

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 And Jesus asked them, what are you discussing with them?

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 What are you discussing together with the scribes and the Pharisees?

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 And one of the crowd answered to the disciples.

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 One of the crowd answered Him,

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 Teacher, I brought you my son,

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 possessed with a spirit which makes him mute.

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 And whenever it seizes him, it slams him to the ground,

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 and he foams at the mouth,

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 and grinds his teeth, and stiffens out.

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 And I told your disciples to cast it out.

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 So he had brought this boy to the disciples,

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 apparently, while Jesus and the others were on the mountain.

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 Brought your disciples to cast it out,

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 and they couldn't do it.

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 And he answered and said to them,

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 O unbelieving generation,

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 how long shall I be with you?

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 How long shall I put up with you?

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 Bring him to me.

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 And they brought the boy to him.

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 When he saw him,

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 immediately the spirit threw him into a convulsion,

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 falling to the ground.

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 He began rolling around and foaming at the mouth.

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 And he asked his father,

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 how long has this been happening to him?

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 And he said, from childhood.

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 Imagine this guy's life.

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 Imagine his anxieties, his fears, his burden.

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 It's often thrown him both into the fire,

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 and into the water to destroy him.

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 But if you can do anything,

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 take pity on us, and help us.

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 And Jesus said to him,

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 if you can,

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 all things are possible to him who believes.

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 Immediately the boy's father cried out and said,

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 I do believe.

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 Help my unbelief.

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 Boy, is that an honest statement,

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 if you've ever heard one,

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 of the complexity of the life of faith.

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 Isn't it?

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 That is the life of faith, folks.

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 That is the life of,

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 certainly my life of,

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 I do believe.

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 Help my unbelief.

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 Incredible, simple, compact little statement,

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 of the complexity,

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 and the reality of a life of faith,

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 just tucked in this little story.

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 But we're not going to talk about that this morning.

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 But anyway,

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 when Jesus saw that a crowd was rapidly gathering,

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 he rebuked the unclean spirit,

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 saying to it,

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 you deaf and mute spirit,

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 I command you come out of him,

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 and do not enter him again.

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 After crying out,

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 and throwing him into terrible convulsions,

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 it came out.

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 And the boy became so much like a corpse,

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 that most of them said,

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 he's dead.

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 But Jesus took him by the hand,

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 and raised him up,

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 and he got up.

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 When he came into the house,

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 his disciples began questioning him privately,

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 why could we not drive it out?

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 And I don't think he wanted to say,

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 because you're a bunch of numpties,

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 but, you know,

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 maybe that was,

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 and his mind would have been on mine.

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 But instead he says to them,

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 this kind cannot come out,

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 by anything but prayer.

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 Isn't that interesting?

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 Isn't that interesting?

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 Because,

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 Mark 9,

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 comes after Mark 6,

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 which is where Jesus in Mark 6,

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 has already,

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 sent these same guys out,

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 with power over,

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 all unclean spirits.

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 So that's where we are.

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 Jesus had sent them out,

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 with power over unclean spirits,

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 which is what,

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 is going on here.

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 But now here's an unclean spirit,

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 and they can't do it.

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 Why not?

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 Why,

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 can't they do it this time?

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 What has happened?

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 Well,

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 Jesus tells them what's happened,

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 doesn't he?

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 In fact,

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 they ask him,

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 outright,

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 in verse 28.

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 Lord,

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 why could we not,

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 drive it out?

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 And he said to them,

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 this kind only comes out,

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 by prayer.

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 Isn't that interesting?

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 Why prayer?

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 Well,

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 I'm going somewhere,

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 with this by the way.

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 Okay?

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 Why prayer?

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 Why not praise?

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 Why not,

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 this kind only comes out,

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 by me?

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 Or this kind only comes out,

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 by exorcism?

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 Or this kind only comes out,

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 by command,

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 or backflips,

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 or nosedives,

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 or I don't know,

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 whatever.

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 Why,

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 why,

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 why prayer?

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 Let me tell you why,

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 I think prayer.

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 Because I think prayer,

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 more than anything,

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 is the greatest indication,

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 that we really know,

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 that we can't do anything,

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 without Jesus.

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 And I think these guys,

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 doesn't say this here,

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 I'm reading between the lines,

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 but I think these guys,

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 had stopped praying.

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 I think they had,

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 stopped relying,

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 on Jesus,

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 to do the work,

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 of the ministry,

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 to live,

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 the life of the Christian,

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 to obey,

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 the words,

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 and commands of God.

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 I think they had stopped,

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 depending on Jesus,

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 to do that.

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 And they got to a place,

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 where they thought,

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 they could do it themselves.

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 And I think a lot of Christians,

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 and I think a lot of churches,

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 if we're not careful,

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 wind up in exactly,

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 the same place.

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 Exactly,

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 the same place.

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 And I'll tell you something,

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 it scares the life out of me,

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 because,

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 I remember being woken up,

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 to the drift,

00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:19.740
 that had taken place,

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 in my own life,

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 15 years ago.

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 Scares the wits out of me.

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 I'm tempted,

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 to share a little bit more,

00:22:29.099 --> 00:22:29.639
 about that experience,

00:22:29.740 --> 00:22:30.639
 but I'll talk to you about it,

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 in the seminar,

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 a little bit more.

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 This is the utter danger,

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 of self-sufficiency.

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 And I just want to finish off,

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 with the last couple of minutes,

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 I've got here.

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 This is the utter danger,

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 of self-sufficiency.

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 And I just want to finish off,

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 I want to give you four things,

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 that I think self-sufficiency,

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 leaves us with,

00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:46.940
 according to this text.

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 And why prayer,

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 is such a significant,

00:22:49.380 --> 00:22:51.400
 way to battle,

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 or to counter,

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 the inevitable,

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 inevitable,

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 am I right,

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 or am I wrong with this?

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 Tell me if I'm wrong.

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 The inevitable,

00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:04.059
 drift,

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 that we are prone to,

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 as frail,

00:23:09.299 --> 00:23:09.779
 and broken,

00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:11.000
 and sinful human beings,

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 the inevitable drift,

00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:13.480
 that we're prone to,

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 when it comes,

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 to this whole issue,

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 of prayer.

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 And our dependence,

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 on self,

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 rather than our dependence,

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 on God.

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 So four things,

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 I think self-sufficiency,

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 leaves us with,

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 according to this text.

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 Number one,

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 I think self-sufficiency,

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 when we drift into that,

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 it leaves us with,

00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:30.679
 obviously,

00:23:31.259 --> 00:23:31.980
 self-ability.

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 Think about it,

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 self-sufficiency,

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 leaves us with,

00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:37.279
 self-ability.

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 In other words,

00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:39.659
 we can only do,

00:23:39.879 --> 00:23:41.359
 when we become self-sufficient,

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 we can only do,

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 what's humanly,

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:45.000
 possible.

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 Is that fair?

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 Because we're not,

00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:48.899
 depending on Christ.

00:23:49.139 --> 00:23:49.960
 Apart from me,

00:23:50.059 --> 00:23:50.759
 you can do,

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 nothing.

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 And that's exactly,

00:23:54.659 --> 00:23:55.359
 what happens.

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 I mean,

00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:56.799
 we can go to work,

00:23:56.879 --> 00:23:57.899
 we can drive our car,

00:23:58.039 --> 00:23:58.319
 we can,

00:23:59.259 --> 00:23:59.559
 but,

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 I don't know,

00:24:00.579 --> 00:24:01.119
 that we can live,

00:24:01.179 --> 00:24:02.159
 the Christ life.

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 Ourselves,

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 does anybody,

00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:08.220
 think they can?

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 You know,

00:24:09.919 --> 00:24:10.740
 of course we don't.

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 We know we can't,

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 but this is the inevitable,

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 proneness to drift,

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 into self-sufficiency.

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 And I think we all,

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 I think we all experience that.

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 I think we all experience that.

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 We can only do,

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 what's humanly possible.

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 And in the spiritual realm,

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 that's not much,

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 is it?

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 What's humanly possible,

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 is not much in the spiritual realm.

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 In fact,

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 it's nil.

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 It's nil.

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 So you wonder why,

00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.399
 I don't know,

00:24:42.579 --> 00:24:44.159
 your relationships are crumbling,

00:24:44.299 --> 00:24:45.399
 or you wonder why,

00:24:45.859 --> 00:24:48.599
 nobody in your sphere,

00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:49.819
 is getting saved,

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:51.299
 or you wonder why,

00:24:51.919 --> 00:24:54.059
 your patience is low,

00:24:54.259 --> 00:24:55.019
 or you wonder,

00:24:55.459 --> 00:24:55.799
 why,

00:24:56.199 --> 00:24:57.599
 your marriage is frail,

00:24:57.719 --> 00:24:58.599
 or you wonder,

00:24:58.919 --> 00:24:59.219
 why,

00:24:59.719 --> 00:25:02.859
 your service at church,

00:25:03.199 --> 00:25:03.980
 is a burden.

00:25:07.099 --> 00:25:09.019
 Rather than a blessing.

00:25:10.719 --> 00:25:11.679
 I don't know if I'm,

00:25:11.679 --> 00:25:12.839
 if I'm hitting any targets,

00:25:13.059 --> 00:25:13.279
 but,

00:25:13.779 --> 00:25:14.659
 you know,

00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:16.259
 I have felt,

00:25:16.379 --> 00:25:17.740
 all of those things.

00:25:19.179 --> 00:25:20.339
 I have been through,

00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:21.679
 all of those things,

00:25:21.859 --> 00:25:22.439
 and more.

00:25:24.539 --> 00:25:25.179
 And then,

00:25:26.179 --> 00:25:28.459
 and I have probably wondered why.

00:25:29.779 --> 00:25:30.079
 But boy,

00:25:30.159 --> 00:25:30.539
 I'll tell you,

00:25:30.980 --> 00:25:31.219
 when,

00:25:31.259 --> 00:25:31.480
 when,

00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:31.719
 when,

00:25:31.719 --> 00:25:33.419
 when God needs to push your buttons,

00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:34.879
 he knows what buttons to push.

00:25:37.099 --> 00:25:38.980
 And again,

00:25:39.019 --> 00:25:40.159
 I'll share in the seminar,

00:25:40.339 --> 00:25:42.219
 I certainly don't have it all together.

00:25:42.579 --> 00:25:44.500
 I certainly don't have it all together.

00:25:45.740 --> 00:25:46.919
 But I think I'm learning.

00:25:48.679 --> 00:25:49.079
 Slowly,

00:25:49.439 --> 00:25:51.019
 57 years on,

00:25:51.179 --> 00:25:51.439
 you know,

00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:52.579
 I think I'm learning.

00:25:52.779 --> 00:25:54.039
 Not 57 years a Christian.

00:25:54.159 --> 00:25:55.000
 Don't think I'm that old.

00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:56.559
 Alright?

00:25:57.019 --> 00:25:58.019
 I think I'm learning.

00:25:58.339 --> 00:25:58.779
 But I,

00:25:58.879 --> 00:25:59.799
 no way have it together.

00:26:00.199 --> 00:26:00.719
 So number one,

00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.259
 self-sufficiency leaves with self-ability.

00:26:02.379 --> 00:26:02.740
 Number two,

00:26:03.059 --> 00:26:03.899
 self-sufficiency,

00:26:04.719 --> 00:26:05.859
 because all these guys had,

00:26:05.939 --> 00:26:06.759
 was their self-ability.

00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:07.039
 So,

00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:08.579
 self-sufficiency number two,

00:26:08.660 --> 00:26:10.400
 leaves us with self-philosophy.

00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:11.980
 Now watch this.

00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:13.299
 Self-sufficiency,

00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:14.420
 when we get self-sufficient,

00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:15.079
 we,

00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:15.460
 we,

00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:16.680
 nine times out of ten,

00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:17.259
 we,

00:26:17.339 --> 00:26:17.559
 we,

00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:17.740
 we,

00:26:17.859 --> 00:26:19.059
 when we're self-sufficient,

00:26:19.299 --> 00:26:21.140
 we're also self-convinced.

00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:21.920
 Aren't we?

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:23.940
 I've got what it takes.

00:26:23.980 --> 00:26:24.619
 I can do it.

00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:25.859
 I can do it.

00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:27.259
 I can do it.

00:26:27.299 --> 00:26:28.079
 I got that way.

00:26:28.140 --> 00:26:29.039
 I got that way.

00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:31.420
 I got that way.

00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:32.779
 Every Sunday morning now,

00:26:32.859 --> 00:26:34.079
 I take my message,

00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.119
 and I hold it out before God.

00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:37.019
 Every Sunday morning,

00:26:37.259 --> 00:26:38.339
 I hold it out before God,

00:26:38.439 --> 00:26:38.719
 and I say,

00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:38.959
 Lord,

00:26:39.779 --> 00:26:41.699
 this is just a manuscript,

00:26:42.259 --> 00:26:45.179
 that I've tried to put together,

00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:45.719
 here,

00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.359
 in my humanness,

00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:48.719
 my brokenness,

00:26:48.939 --> 00:26:50.179
 hopefully some of my dependence,

00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:50.400
 and I say,

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.299
 this is only a manuscript.

00:26:54.299 --> 00:26:54.700
 Lord,

00:26:54.779 --> 00:26:56.039
 you have to make it a message.

00:26:56.860 --> 00:26:58.140
 You've got to make it a message.

00:26:58.600 --> 00:27:00.200
 And if you don't make it a message,

00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:02.600
 then everybody's going to go home,

00:27:03.120 --> 00:27:04.460
 starving spiritually.

00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:06.420
 Starving spiritually.

00:27:06.420 --> 00:27:10.200
 But for years,

00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:10.860
 for years,

00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.539
 I just waltzed up to the pulpit.

00:27:12.620 --> 00:27:13.060
 I did.

00:27:14.539 --> 00:27:16.680
 And it wasn't until I had this breakdown,

00:27:16.820 --> 00:27:17.480
 I looked back,

00:27:17.580 --> 00:27:19.560
 and for a number of years before that,

00:27:19.580 --> 00:27:19.800
 I thought,

00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:21.600
 I've preached hundreds of messages.

00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.140
 I'm not saying any of them have been good,

00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:25.140
 but I've preached them.

00:27:26.019 --> 00:27:26.920
 Hundreds of messages.

00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:30.600
 And I just started to live that way.

00:27:30.820 --> 00:27:33.259
 I think I got like these guys did in Mark 9.

00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:36.180
 I got to the point where I've done this before.

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:37.539
 Now, to begin with,

00:27:37.619 --> 00:27:39.240
 the first time you're up front of people,

00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:39.720
 and you know,

00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:41.039
 you're praying like mad.

00:27:41.379 --> 00:27:41.680
 Why?

00:27:41.940 --> 00:27:42.900
 Because you have a need.

00:27:44.700 --> 00:27:45.619
 You're not on holiday.

00:27:45.740 --> 00:27:47.259
 You're not sitting in a lounge chair in Florida.

00:27:47.460 --> 00:27:48.240
 You have a need.

00:27:49.379 --> 00:27:50.279
 And you pray.

00:27:51.339 --> 00:27:52.259
 Because it's hard.

00:27:52.379 --> 00:27:53.359
 There's pressure on you.

00:27:53.579 --> 00:27:54.960
 That's a good thing, folks.

00:27:55.180 --> 00:27:55.839
 That's a good thing.

00:27:55.879 --> 00:27:56.660
 I met with a guy this week

00:27:56.660 --> 00:27:58.579
 who's really struggling with different things.

00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.379
 And with all the pastoral compassion I could muster,

00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:02.980
 I tried to tell him,

00:28:02.980 --> 00:28:03.299
 you know what?

00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:04.420
 That's not as bad as you think.

00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:06.980
 That's not as bad as you think.

00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:08.299
 Yeah, it's heavy.

00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:09.380
 Yeah, it's hard.

00:28:09.620 --> 00:28:11.140
 But there are going to be things going on

00:28:11.140 --> 00:28:13.000
 in the depths of your heart right now

00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:14.099
 that you would never believe.

00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:16.839
 Because you're learning to depend on God.

00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:18.140
 You're learning to depend on God.

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.019
 When I'm sitting there and the sun is shining

00:28:20.019 --> 00:28:21.380
 and everything, the world is right,

00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.019
 I'm not learning to depend on God

00:28:23.019 --> 00:28:23.640
 because I'm not.

00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:24.640
 I'm laying in the sunshine.

00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:24.900
 I'm not.

00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:32.620
 So you start to become self-convinced

00:28:32.620 --> 00:28:34.180
 and probably self-deceived.

00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:36.800
 In Luke's account of this same incident,

00:28:37.280 --> 00:28:37.880
 in Luke's account,

00:28:37.940 --> 00:28:38.640
 this is Mark's account,

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:39.180
 but in Luke's,

00:28:39.280 --> 00:28:40.060
 Matthew and Luke,

00:28:40.300 --> 00:28:42.540
 the synoptics all have this incident

00:28:42.540 --> 00:28:43.759
 from different perspectives

00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:44.840
 and they all add different bits.

00:28:44.940 --> 00:28:45.920
 It's good to look at this

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.759
 maybe later on or tonight or whatever,

00:28:47.860 --> 00:28:49.300
 go back and look at Matthew, Mark, and Luke's.

00:28:49.360 --> 00:28:50.240
 It's a big full picture.

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.059
 But in Luke's account of this same incident,

00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:53.900
 Jesus says to the disciples

00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:55.259
 when he's talking to them

00:28:55.259 --> 00:28:57.180
 about their need to depend on him

00:28:57.180 --> 00:28:58.539
 and the fact that they're unbelieving

00:28:58.539 --> 00:29:00.000
 and this only comes out by prayer,

00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:00.980
 Luke says,

00:29:01.620 --> 00:29:05.359
 let these words sink into your heads.

00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:07.759
 That's where he says they're numpties basically,

00:29:08.140 --> 00:29:08.660
 thick heads.

00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.380
 Let these words sink into your heads

00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:14.400
 because I think you've become self-convinced

00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:15.299
 and self-deceived.

00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:19.299
 Thinking you can do the work of God

00:29:19.299 --> 00:29:20.819
 on your own.

00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:22.639
 Man.

00:29:23.139 --> 00:29:23.579
 Number three,

00:29:23.980 --> 00:29:26.940
 self-sufficiency leaves us with self-eminency.

00:29:27.419 --> 00:29:27.859
 Doesn't it?

00:29:28.339 --> 00:29:29.000
 Think about it.

00:29:29.779 --> 00:29:30.500
 Self-sufficiency.

00:29:30.899 --> 00:29:31.099
 Self.

00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:32.700
 I can do it.

00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:35.119
 Leaves us with self-eminency.

00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:36.259
 The more we depend on self,

00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.559
 the more we believe in self

00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:39.000
 and the more we believe in self,

00:29:39.059 --> 00:29:41.039
 the more we exalt self.

00:29:41.940 --> 00:29:43.740
 And this is an easy thing to do, folks.

00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:45.019
 You may not think it's happening,

00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.240
 but I don't know that there's a human being alive

00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:49.960
 that isn't tempted into this.

00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:51.900
 Reading between the lines,

00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:53.440
 I wonder,

00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:54.960
 even though Peter, James, and John

00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.240
 weren't a part of the crowd

00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.740
 that tried to toss the demon out of the boy,

00:30:01.700 --> 00:30:02.660
 reading between the lines,

00:30:02.940 --> 00:30:03.700
 I wonder whether

00:30:03.700 --> 00:30:07.859
 some of the material's not been organized here

00:30:07.859 --> 00:30:08.579
 with Mark.

00:30:08.579 --> 00:30:09.839
 I'm putting this,

00:30:09.899 --> 00:30:10.919
 and I'm sure the incident,

00:30:11.099 --> 00:30:12.399
 this was chronological,

00:30:13.019 --> 00:30:15.419
 but it's interesting that this situation

00:30:15.419 --> 00:30:16.500
 with the boy happens

00:30:16.500 --> 00:30:17.899
 right after this situation

00:30:17.899 --> 00:30:20.039
 where Peter, James, and John

00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.179
 are on the mountain with Jesus.

00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:24.119
 And not only do they see this,

00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:26.419
 whatever this manifestation of his glory is,

00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:28.500
 but who else do they see up there?

00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.679
 Moses and Elijah.

00:30:32.679 --> 00:30:34.000
 And it doesn't say this,

00:30:34.500 --> 00:30:35.859
 I tend to do a little bit of reading

00:30:35.859 --> 00:30:36.619
 between the lines

00:30:36.619 --> 00:30:38.599
 when I'm studying the Bible,

00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.039
 but it's just asking questions.

00:30:40.220 --> 00:30:41.500
 It's all I'm doing is asking questions.

00:30:41.859 --> 00:30:42.180
 You know,

00:30:42.220 --> 00:30:43.279
 what could be going on here?

00:30:43.460 --> 00:30:44.960
 What's going on in these guys' minds?

00:30:45.019 --> 00:30:45.839
 You've got to ask yourself,

00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:46.799
 especially in narrative,

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.960
 you've got to ask yourself those questions.

00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:50.279
 It's good because it makes it live.

00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:51.440
 These are real people.

00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:53.559
 How do you think,

00:30:53.779 --> 00:30:54.400
 potentially,

00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:55.380
 how do you think

00:30:55.380 --> 00:30:57.480
 Peter, James, and John

00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:58.119
 were feeling

00:30:58.119 --> 00:30:59.839
 as they came down the mountain

00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.140
 to the other guys

00:31:02.140 --> 00:31:03.940
 who hadn't been with Jesus

00:31:03.940 --> 00:31:06.840
 and seen this manifestation

00:31:06.840 --> 00:31:07.640
 of his glory?

00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:09.240
 I don't know.

00:31:09.320 --> 00:31:10.040
 I'm reading between the lines.

00:31:10.120 --> 00:31:10.620
 It doesn't say this,

00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:11.280
 but I wonder

00:31:11.280 --> 00:31:12.660
 if there wasn't something

00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:13.540
 these guys might have been

00:31:13.540 --> 00:31:14.520
 slipping into themselves.

00:31:14.860 --> 00:31:15.620
 I wonder if they might have,

00:31:15.620 --> 00:31:16.680
 when's the last time

00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:18.160
 you saw Moses and Elijah?

00:31:21.320 --> 00:31:21.900
 You know?

00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:22.920
 We did.

00:31:23.740 --> 00:31:24.360
 We saw them.

00:31:24.840 --> 00:31:24.980
 You know,

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:25.620
 I don't know.

00:31:26.060 --> 00:31:27.080
 But it's just kind of funny.

00:31:27.320 --> 00:31:27.800
 These guys,

00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:29.660
 we know Peter puts his foot in it.

00:31:29.900 --> 00:31:30.560
 We know these guys

00:31:30.560 --> 00:31:31.140
 don't get it right.

00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:32.000
 We know they're prone

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.259
 to the same kind of

00:31:33.259 --> 00:31:35.500
 self-life that we are.

00:31:37.280 --> 00:31:37.520
 So,

00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:38.920
 I'm not quite sure about that.

00:31:39.060 --> 00:31:39.160
 But,

00:31:39.320 --> 00:31:39.520
 anyway,

00:31:39.620 --> 00:31:40.100
 last one here.

00:31:40.180 --> 00:31:40.900
 Self-sufficiency

00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:43.180
 leaves us with self-ability,

00:31:43.300 --> 00:31:43.800
 self-philosophy,

00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:44.540
 self-eminency.

00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:46.080
 Self-sufficiency

00:31:46.080 --> 00:31:47.480
 ultimately leaves us

00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.420
 with self-exclusively.

00:31:49.620 --> 00:31:50.040
 That's it.

00:31:51.080 --> 00:31:51.600
 That's it.

00:31:52.600 --> 00:31:53.340
 In other words,

00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:56.100
 you want to try to live

00:31:56.100 --> 00:31:57.320
 the Christ life without Christ?

00:31:57.600 --> 00:31:57.980
 Go ahead.

00:31:57.980 --> 00:31:58.060
 Go ahead.

00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:01.640
 Go ahead.

00:32:02.100 --> 00:32:02.940
 I wonder if,

00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:03.340
 folks,

00:32:04.320 --> 00:32:05.160
 I wonder if what God

00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:06.960
 is saying to our broken world

00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.940
 in the mess that it is today.

00:32:10.280 --> 00:32:11.240
 Read Romans 1.

00:32:11.320 --> 00:32:12.380
 Romans 1 is all about this.

00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:13.660
 In the mess that it is.

00:32:13.800 --> 00:32:14.660
 If that's the way

00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:15.400
 you want to live,

00:32:16.520 --> 00:32:18.680
 if you want to reject me

00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:20.240
 and everything that I stand for,

00:32:21.340 --> 00:32:23.300
 and every purpose

00:32:23.300 --> 00:32:24.340
 that you were made to have

00:32:24.340 --> 00:32:25.440
 in your creation,

00:32:25.660 --> 00:32:26.900
 if you want to live that way,

00:32:27.280 --> 00:32:27.780
 go ahead.

00:32:27.779 --> 00:32:28.180
 Go ahead.

00:32:29.619 --> 00:32:30.220
 Go ahead.

00:32:31.019 --> 00:32:31.720
 And I'll show you

00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.039
 what a world like that looks like.

00:32:34.740 --> 00:32:35.740
 And I think that happens

00:32:35.740 --> 00:32:36.619
 in our lives as well.

00:32:36.639 --> 00:32:37.240
 You want to live?

00:32:37.779 --> 00:32:39.319
 You want to live

00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:41.660
 with no prayer life?

00:32:41.779 --> 00:32:42.440
 You want to live

00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.899
 without that dependence on God?

00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:45.619
 Go ahead.

00:32:46.059 --> 00:32:47.119
 You'll be left with you.

00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:51.160
 You'll be left with you.

00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.620
 And I think we all know

00:32:53.620 --> 00:32:55.279
 in the deepest depths

00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:56.259
 of our hearts,

00:32:56.540 --> 00:32:57.440
 when we understand

00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:58.560
 the reality of who we are

00:32:58.560 --> 00:32:59.440
 in our own brokenness,

00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:00.660
 that's not a pretty picture.

00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:03.940
 It's not a pretty picture.

00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:06.880
 When we stop depending on God,

00:33:06.980 --> 00:33:07.400
 eventually,

00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:08.900
 we begin to believe

00:33:08.900 --> 00:33:10.980
 that not only are we all we need,

00:33:11.080 --> 00:33:11.620
 but actually,

00:33:11.860 --> 00:33:12.640
 we're all there is.

00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:13.060
 Don't we?

00:33:14.600 --> 00:33:15.640
 We're all there is.

00:33:17.259 --> 00:33:18.420
 Mark doesn't record this,

00:33:18.500 --> 00:33:19.120
 but if you read on

00:33:19.120 --> 00:33:20.040
 in Luke's account again

00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:20.819
 of this incident,

00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:22.379
 the disciples actually

00:33:22.379 --> 00:33:23.639
 start to rebuke others

00:33:23.639 --> 00:33:24.240
 after this,

00:33:24.299 --> 00:33:24.799
 right after this,

00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:25.960
 they start to rebuke others

00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.539
 who are driving out demons

00:33:27.539 --> 00:33:28.379
 in Jesus' name.

00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:30.399
 So think about that.

00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:31.559
 So they're looking at,

00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:31.899
 I don't know,

00:33:31.940 --> 00:33:33.220
 they're looking at another church

00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:36.299
 with a program that's working

00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:37.399
 and they're,

00:33:38.099 --> 00:33:39.240
 you know how sometimes we get?

00:33:40.159 --> 00:33:41.599
 And we start taking shots

00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:42.379
 at our own people.

00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:44.740
 So they're looking at another church

00:33:44.740 --> 00:33:45.839
 or they're looking at another Christian

00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:47.980
 who's leading loads of people to Christ.

00:33:48.539 --> 00:33:48.859
 And maybe,

00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:50.019
 and this is strange,

00:33:50.539 --> 00:33:51.759
 don't look at me this way,

00:33:51.899 --> 00:33:52.980
 you probably know this,

00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:57.399
 but there's something in me

00:33:57.399 --> 00:33:59.180
 and I hate it,

00:33:59.299 --> 00:34:00.099
 I hate it,

00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:01.899
 but there's something in me

00:34:01.899 --> 00:34:03.579
 that can actually start to envy

00:34:03.579 --> 00:34:07.240
 and even begin to think ill of

00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.599
 other Christians

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.360
 who seem to be more productive

00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:11.980
 than I am.

00:34:13.539 --> 00:34:15.420
 And I almost wish them unwell.

00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:16.619
 Isn't that awful?

00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:18.380
 You ever think a believer

00:34:18.380 --> 00:34:19.039
 could be like that?

00:34:19.099 --> 00:34:20.160
 Maybe I don't even belong

00:34:20.160 --> 00:34:21.000
 in front of you

00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.260
 or in the ministry

00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:23.579
 or anything like that.

00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.440
 But something ugly in my flesh

00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:27.260
 can get there.

00:34:27.640 --> 00:34:28.539
 And I think that's what

00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:29.400
 is happening here.

00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.220
 They are so self-dependent,

00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:32.280
 so self-reliant,

00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:33.160
 that there are people

00:34:33.160 --> 00:34:34.559
 who are actually casting out demons.

00:34:34.740 --> 00:34:35.900
 They're on the same team!

00:34:35.900 --> 00:34:40.000
 And they're casting out demons.

00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.119
 And in Luke 9, 49,

00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:44.559
 John says,

00:34:44.680 --> 00:34:45.039
 Master,

00:34:45.500 --> 00:34:46.860
 can you believe this?

00:34:47.059 --> 00:34:49.240
 We actually saw someone else

00:34:49.240 --> 00:34:50.880
 driving out demons in your name,

00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.280
 but we tried to stop him

00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:53.559
 because he's not one of us.

00:34:57.559 --> 00:34:58.440
 Can you believe that?

00:34:58.480 --> 00:34:59.240
 Somebody other than me

00:34:59.240 --> 00:35:00.059
 wanting to do something

00:35:00.059 --> 00:35:01.280
 in Jesus' names.

00:35:01.640 --> 00:35:01.800
 Well,

00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:03.140
 my time's up.

00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:04.860
 Walking with God

00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:05.400
 in prayer

00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.200
 more dependently.

00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:10.180
 And I think that's what

00:35:10.180 --> 00:35:10.760
 prayer is all about

00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:11.500
 in the first place.

00:35:12.740 --> 00:35:13.500
 That's what prayer is all about

00:35:13.500 --> 00:35:14.280
 in the first place.

00:35:15.160 --> 00:35:15.540
 In other words,

00:35:15.620 --> 00:35:16.540
 I don't think

00:35:16.540 --> 00:35:17.700
 we can walk with God

00:35:17.700 --> 00:35:18.519
 dependently

00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:19.320
 outside of prayer.

00:35:20.019 --> 00:35:20.720
 Think about that.

00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:21.980
 I don't think we can walk

00:35:21.980 --> 00:35:23.320
 dependently on God

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.160
 outside of prayer.

00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:27.440
 And I know

00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:28.159
 that my prayer life

00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:28.699
 is the absolute

00:35:28.699 --> 00:35:29.599
 greatest indication

00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:30.359
 of how dependent

00:35:30.359 --> 00:35:31.559
 I am on God.

00:35:31.859 --> 00:35:32.480
 I know it is.

00:35:33.879 --> 00:35:35.039
 I know when I am

00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.139
 really depending on God,

00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:36.940
 I'm on my knees.

00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:40.879
 And when I'm not,

00:35:41.279 --> 00:35:42.500
 I'm just doing my own thing.

00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:44.339
 I don't know if that's

00:35:44.339 --> 00:35:45.000
 what you were expecting

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:45.399
 this morning,

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:46.159
 but that's what you got.

00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:47.879
 Okay?

00:35:48.219 --> 00:35:49.519
 It is about dependence.

00:35:49.940 --> 00:35:50.859
 It is about dependence.

00:35:51.460 --> 00:35:52.619
 Your statement says

00:35:52.619 --> 00:35:54.559
 it's about dependence.

00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:55.659
 And I think you're right.

00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:56.799
 I think you're right.

00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:57.980
 I think you've got that right.

00:35:58.059 --> 00:35:58.539
 Let me pray.

00:35:58.639 --> 00:35:58.920
 And then,

00:35:59.420 --> 00:36:01.059
 I think we just got

00:36:01.059 --> 00:36:01.880
 a break coming up here.

00:36:04.860 --> 00:36:05.219
 Father,

00:36:05.380 --> 00:36:05.539
 we,

00:36:05.860 --> 00:36:06.920
 here we are.

00:36:07.900 --> 00:36:08.639
 Here we are

00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:09.460
 in our humanness.

00:36:09.539 --> 00:36:09.900
 Here we are

00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:10.759
 in our brokenness.

00:36:10.820 --> 00:36:11.719
 Here we are today

00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:13.199
 with this opportunity

00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:14.480
 that you've provided

00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:15.199
 for us

00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.420
 to be together

00:36:16.420 --> 00:36:17.940
 and to think

00:36:17.940 --> 00:36:18.559
 and to hear

00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:19.139
 and to listen

00:36:19.139 --> 00:36:19.860
 and to ponder

00:36:19.860 --> 00:36:21.860
 and to readjust

00:36:21.860 --> 00:36:22.920
 our lives.

00:36:23.460 --> 00:36:24.159
 What a great

00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:25.119
 opportunity today

00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:26.119
 for us to have

00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:27.719
 a mid-course correction

00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:29.799
 in our spiritual lives.

00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:31.619
 And so,

00:36:31.759 --> 00:36:31.980
 Lord,

00:36:32.500 --> 00:36:33.839
 in dependence on you,

00:36:34.539 --> 00:36:35.819
 we close our eyes,

00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:36.879
 we bow our heads,

00:36:37.399 --> 00:36:38.239
 and we do this thing

00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:38.839
 called prayer.

00:36:38.980 --> 00:36:39.859
 We speak to you

00:36:39.859 --> 00:36:41.279
 because of the precious

00:36:41.279 --> 00:36:42.139
 blood of Jesus

00:36:42.139 --> 00:36:43.099
 that's opened the way

00:36:43.099 --> 00:36:43.659
 for us

00:36:43.659 --> 00:36:45.399
 to have this relationship

00:36:45.399 --> 00:36:45.920
 with you.

00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:48.780
 we express our dependence

00:36:48.780 --> 00:36:49.240
 on you.

00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:50.079
 We confess

00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.800
 our proneness

00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.180
 to self-sufficiency

00:36:55.180 --> 00:36:55.820
 rather than

00:36:55.820 --> 00:36:56.619
 God-dependency,

00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:57.519
 and we pray

00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:59.039
 and ask you

00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.139
 that in this special time

00:37:01.139 --> 00:37:02.159
 we have together today,

00:37:02.380 --> 00:37:03.539
 you would help us

00:37:03.539 --> 00:37:04.800
 to become more

00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.079
 reliant and dependent

00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:06.659
 on you

00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:07.800
 so that we might live

00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:08.340
 in this world

00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:08.900
 in a way

00:37:08.900 --> 00:37:10.280
 that glorifies you.

00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.159
 In Jesus' name,

00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:11.579
 Amen.