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 Those of you who like historic novels will probably have come across the writings of somebody who is an academic historian as well as a novelist called Philippa Gregory.

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 And reading about Tudor times, which is primarily her interest, you discover what it cost at certain times in our history to actually acknowledge the fact that you were,

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 well, the big tension then, of course, was, and thank God these days are over, was the tension between Roman Catholicism and the Reformed faith.

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 And if you found yourself in the wrong company or in the presence of the wrong monarch, and you admitted you were of the other parish, if I can put it in Anglican speak, you very likely lose your head for that.

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 And I find that a kind of salutary thing to remind myself because I think today, I think it was Os Guinness who said that, rather cryptically, said that, he was talking in the 20th century,

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 he said the 20th century church is like the St. Lawrence Seaway.

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 We were all like, what?

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 He said, frozen at the mouth in winter.

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 And what I want to talk to you about today is, just so you know, I am not obsessed by the idea that sharing our faith is only about the words we use and the way we speak.

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 If you can hang on for this evening, and this first session will probably dictate either way, whether you do or you don't.

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 If you can, what I am going to be talking about this evening is, the impact of change in a person's life in terms of our credible witness.

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 I mean, you can argue with a lot of things.

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 You can argue with creeds.

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 You can argue with clergy.

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 You can argue with bishops.

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 Believe me, people do.

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 You know, I can name names.

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 But what you can't argue with very easily is a changed life.

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 And this evening, I want to look at that and the impact of that.

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 But this afternoon, if you'll forgive me, and truthfully, you have no choice.

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 And what I want to talk about is this difficult area in our culture.

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 You know, it would be nice for me to say, why don't you do this?

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 It's easy.

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 But actually, I don't think it is that easy.

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 Although I identify in our culture at the moment huge amounts of need.

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 I think we'd all be agreed that whatever the political agenda is exercised by any political party, somehow our society seems to be on a hell-bent journey towards damaging people.

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 And, you know, one thinks of our younger people.

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 And, you know, the reported increase in incidence of mental health issues, issues with personal image, the impact of social media.

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 I'm not here to tell you that's all bad.

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 I just, you know, don't quite get it.

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 Somebody said, you know, the worst day of my life was the day my mother learned to text.

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 So what I want to talk to you about is this.

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 But before I actually get around, and by the way, I want this to be as practical as I can make it.

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 Okay?

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 So you can decide when you leave here, am I going to act on any of this stuff?

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 Or am I just going to, you know, write it in my journal tonight and ignore it for the rest of my time here on planet Earth?

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 I can't make you do that.

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 I'm rather glad I don't have that power.

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 But what I want to say is that there are two very fundamental things that you need to think about

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 before you will even get started on this whole idea of offering a verbal witness.

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 Before I do that, I want to read to you this amazing narrative from 2 Kings chapter 7,

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 which I feel sure you're all desperately familiar with.

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 But it's a remarkable story.

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 Where we are is there's a city called Samaria,

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 and there's an enemy army led by a rather violent king called Ben-Hadad.

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 And his military strategy in order to capture Samaria is to lay siege to it.

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 So there are people inside the city who can't get out.

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 There's no logistic channel, so they're starving to death.

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 The narrative amusingly tells us that actually they were so hungry and so desperate for food

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 that things like a donkey's head were selling for big bucks.

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 I mean, you know, can you imagine those of you who are cooks,

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 you come home to your partner, those of you who got one, your wife, your husband, whatever,

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 and say, darling, what's for lunch today?

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 And he or she says, I got a donkey's head.

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 Right?

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 I can tell you you're not even smiling at the thought of that.

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 I mean, just illustrative of how horrific the situation was.

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 But even worse,

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 sorry, I'm just telling you this because you need this background before I actually read the narrative.

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 But even worse are four lepers.

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 And they're trapped between the armies of Ben-Hadad on the outside of the city wall

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 and the inhabitants of Samaria who are inside the wall.

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 And you understand that leprosy wasn't just a horribly disfiguring disease,

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 but was in fact a major kind of socially unacceptable.

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 So these people are sitting outside and they're wondering what to do.

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 Here's what the Bible says about them.

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 There were four men with leprosy at the entrance of the city gate.

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 They said to each other,

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 why stay here until we die?

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 If we say we'll go into the city,

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 the famine is there and we will die.

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 And if we stay here, we will die.

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 That's what you call a classic Hobson's choice, right?

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 So let's go over to the camp of the Arameans and surrender.

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 If they spare us, we live.

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 If they kill us, then we die.

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 At dusk they got up and went to the camp of the Arameans.

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 When they reached the edge of the camp, not a man was there,

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 for the Lord had caused the Arameans to hear the sound of chariots and horses and a great army.

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 So that they said to one another,

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 look, the king of Israel has hired the Hittite and Egyptian kings to attack us.

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 So they got up and fled in the dusk and abandoned their tents and their horses and donkeys.

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 They left the camp as it was and ran for their lives.

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 The men who had leprosy reached the edge of the camp and entered one of the tents.

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 They ate and drank and carried away silver, gold and clothes and went off and hid them.

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 They returned and entered another tent and took some things from it and hid them also.

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 Then they said to each other,

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 we're not doing right.

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 This is a day of good news and we're keeping it to ourselves.

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 I know this is a dangerous thing for a preacher to say,

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 but I cannot tell you how many times I preached on that text.

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 What an amazing kind of recognition.

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 And so the two basic requirements I want to say,

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 before you will even get started on this business of offering any kind of verbal witness,

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 is this.

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 The first thing is, in whatever way, I don't think there's one way,

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 but I think you have to have experienced the good news of the gospel

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 before you will even have any motivation whatsoever

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 to share the good news that hopefully has changed your life.

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 So I said, I don't think that there is one way to do that.

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 I think, you know, I say accepting the gospel is a bit like falling in love.

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 You know, there are some people who are standing in a room

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 and somebody comes into the room and they know from David,

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 that is my future wife, my future husband.

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 Then there's people like my wife,

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 who, you know, looked at me for a very long time,

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 down her nose to a certain extent,

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 till she kind of warmed up to the idea that,

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 you know, maybe I'm desperate enough to...

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 Some people come to Christ like I did, literally overnight.

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 And for other people, it's a much longer journey.

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 And I don't think any of those experiences is inauthentic,

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 but I do believe there needs to be a point

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 where you realize that you are the recipient of the good news for yourself.

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 And you don't need to just experience it

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 if you're going to get involved in verbal witness.

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 You need also to be pretty certain that it is good news.

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 The Greek word for good news is the Greek word euangelion,

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 which we translate in two ways.

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 One is we translate it by the English word gospel,

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 the other by the English word good news.

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 Why?

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 Because the gospel is very good news.

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 And if it's good news,

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 why wouldn't we want to tell others about it?

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 I remember seeing a movie when I was a kid.

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 I can't tell you the title of it.

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 But the movie was about the world being attacked

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 by this really dangerous bacteria.

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 And everybody, all the scientists,

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 were working overtime to try and find

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 how you might get rid of this bacteria.

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 Mixing chemicals, spraying it on the bacteria, etc., etc.

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 It turns out that the hero of the story,

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 who wasn't even a scientist,

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 discovered that the best way to get rid of the bacteria

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 is to chuck water on it.

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 And you, just imagine,

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 that you had found a cure for a bacteria

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 which could wipe out the world,

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 and you decide,

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 I'm going to keep this to myself.

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 Would you have any moral,

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 don't shout out,

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 would you have any moral conscience about that?

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 And yet it seems,

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 there are many of us

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 who have experienced the good news,

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 and are agreed that it's the best news,

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 are very happy to keep shtun about it.

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 I saw some data recently,

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 incidentally,

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 which is vaguely encouraging,

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 and that was that,

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 the outcome of the data was

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 that more people at least claim

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 to talk about their faith

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 than anybody ever thought was likely.

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 I don't know if that's true of you.

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 I hope to God it is.

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 But I want to talk to you,

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 you know,

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 I love that story from 2 Kings 7,

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 because in a way it embodies the gospel.

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 It's about those lepers

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 who were just,

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 you know,

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 they had no options whatsoever.

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 And in terms of eternity,

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 you know,

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 one of the things that scripture teaches us

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 is that without Christ,

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 your options for eternity

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 are extremely limited.

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 It's a story about an intervention of God.

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 In this story,

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 it's about an intervention of a God

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 who makes a great big noise somehow,

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 and people confuse that

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 with the noise of Egyptian armies,

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 and decide to leg it.

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 And it's about four people

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 who had no hope,

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 finding hope,

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 and deciding

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 in the very short term

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 that the hope they've discovered

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 they're going to hold on to themselves.

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 This is a day of good news,

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 and we're keeping it to ourselves.

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 I don't know about you.

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 You know,

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 I heard

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 a message

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 this morning

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 that Russ preached

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 where he stood up

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 and owned for himself

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 on the subject that he was to.

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 He's like,

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 I'm not talking at you about this.

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 I'm talking with you about this

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 because what I'm describing

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 is,

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 you know,

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 part of me as well.

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 He was talking about,

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 you know,

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 Jesus' imperative,

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 you know,

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 that we shouldn't worry.

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 And look,

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 I am saying to you,

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 I have been tempted

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 on more occasions than one

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 to keep my mouth shut.

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 I think it would be true to say,

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 I am looking at my clergy colleagues here

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 for some support,

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 but I think generally,

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 when we're in Mufti,

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 you know,

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 and we're out in,

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 you know,

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 maybe on vacation

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 or something like that,

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 and somebody says,

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 you know,

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 you've been having a cup of tea

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 and you're starting to chat to people,

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 and somebody says to you,

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 so,

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 you know,

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 what do you do for a living?

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 I'm like,

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 oh,

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 you know,

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 shall I say

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 I'm in middle management

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 in a large,

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 you know,

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 national organization.

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 And if I did,

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 would I hear a cock crow

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 in my head or something?

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 So,

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 but I mean,

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 I'm tempted.

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 But I need to tell you

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 that some of the most amazing

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 moments of my life

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 have come from

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 unplanned,

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 inadvertent conversations

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 when even unwillingly

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 I have said something

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 about my faith

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 and somebody's life

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 has been transformed.

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 And that's not me saying

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 I'm great,

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 you know,

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 I mean,

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 I can tell you stories

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 where I was extremely

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 half-hearted

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 about it all.

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 So,

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 let's just for a moment,

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 if we may,

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 meditate on

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 what I would call

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 the possibilities

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 of the spoken word.

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 You remember

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 that right at the beginning

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 in the book of Genesis

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 when chaos brooded

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 over the whole earth,

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 it was God speaking

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 into that chaos

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 that started to form

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 order from the chaos.

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 The logos,

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 the word of God,

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 bringing order

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 from what was

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 kind of cosmic chaos.

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 You can fly through

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 the centuries a little bit

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 and I love that verse

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 and I think it's

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 Psalm 107 and verse 2

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 and I love the authorized

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 version of this.

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 It says,

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 let the redeemed

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 of the Lord say so.

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 I like,

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 well,

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 I don't like,

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 I mean,

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 it fills me with trepidation.

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 You know,

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 when Jesus said,

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 if anyone in this sinful

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 and adulterous

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 generations

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 is ashamed of me,

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 then will the Son of Man

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 be ashamed of him

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 or her

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 when they return

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 in glory.

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 The Son of Man

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 is kind of,

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 Jesus' kind of,

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 apocalyptic,

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 speak for

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 himself.

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 That's worth

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 bearing in mind,

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 isn't it,

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 that if

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 we're ashamed of him,

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 he might be ashamed

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 of us

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 at that moment

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 in our lives

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 when it will really matter.

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 And then

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 the day of Pentecost.

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 I've heard so many people,

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 you know,

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 build a massive construction

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 on what happened

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 on the day of Pentecost.

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 You know,

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 sometimes I think

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 the actual text

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 of the day of Pentecost

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 won't bear that construction.

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 But actually,

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 do you notice this?

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 What happens there is

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 the Spirit comes upon the people,

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 people who are standing by

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 and think,

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 well,

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 what's happening?

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 You know,

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 it's like fire coming from heaven.

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 And what happens?

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 You know,

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 does it say,

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 and they started to sing hymns louder?

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 Or they started to wave their hands?

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 Or they started to jig around?

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 You know,

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 no.

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 What it says is

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 they began to speak about

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 the amazing things

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 that God had done.

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 And even more amazingly,

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 the Spirit inspired them

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 to be able to speak out

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 those things

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 in a way that the people

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 who are in the crowd

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 could understand them.

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 You're sitting there,

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 saying,

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 well,

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 that's a novel idea,

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 you know,

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 never went to church

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 thinking I might understand

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 the sermon,

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 you know,

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 and you had to kind of endure it,

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 but no,

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 the Word was spoken

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 in a way

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 that people of every

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 different tongue

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 who were gathered there

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 could understand

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 exactly

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 what was being said.

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 And finally,

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 in 1 Peter 3.15,

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 where

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 Peter says,

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 look,

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 look,

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 look,

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 always be ready.

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 Always be ready

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 to give a reason

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 for the hope

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 that is in you.

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 I mean,

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 don't put your hands up,

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 but you know,

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 would you say you're ready

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 to give a reason?

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 And I want to speak to you

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 about this verbal witness

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 because I think

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 it can be such a game changer

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 in the lives of others.

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 Although,

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 I do want to say to you,

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 this could seriously affect

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 your comfort zone,

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 you know,

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 health warning.

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 And here are some factors

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 that I want you to bear in mind.

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 The first thing is,

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 specific prayer

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 in relation to this verbal witness,

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 I would say,

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 prepares the ground.

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 I think it does that

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 in two ways.

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 The first way is,

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 trust me,

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 if you pray for opportunities

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 to share your faith,

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 I can promise you

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 they will come.

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 Okay?

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 If you don't want them,

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 don't pray them,

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 but if you pray them,

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 pray for opportunities.

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 They will come your way.

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 The second way it does this is,

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 I think,

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 I mentioned this in church

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 some months ago now,

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 but anybody remember

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 prayer triplets?

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 You know,

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 I think we called it

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 Operation Andrew

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 or something like that,

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 and three people

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 would meet together,

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 and each of them

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 would bring three names

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 of people who didn't know Christ,

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 and they would sit together,

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 and they would pray

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 about those people,

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 and,

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 I mean,

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 in my prayer triplet,

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 and,

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 you know,

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 we were,

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 frankly,

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 a bit haphazard.

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 I mean,

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 nearly everybody

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 we prayed for

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 intensely in those

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 prayer triplets

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 crossed the line

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 and became a Christian

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 at some point.

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 So I think

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 that part of preparedness

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 is to be prayed up

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 for the opportunities

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 and for the,

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 to us,

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 that God might use me

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 when those opportunities

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 arise.

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 Second thing

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 I want to say to you,

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 I think you need

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 to bear in mind,

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 is check your love dial.

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 What I mean by that is,

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 I don't think you should

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 plunge into

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 verbal witness

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 if you're a kind of

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 spiritual scalp hunter.

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 You know,

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 if it's more about you

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 than it is about

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 seeking to bring

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 the good news

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 to the people

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 that you speak with,

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 I'm not sure

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 how helpful that is.

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 It's not about winning,

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 it's not about

00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:24.379
 making people

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 feel judged.

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 But verbal witness

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 should be an expression

00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:29.579
 of God's love

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 for the world,

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 as far as I can best see.

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 Third thing is,

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 if you wait

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 until you're ready

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 to give a verbal witness,

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 you'll wait.

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 I think it comes to a point

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 when you've just got to

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 plunge in there

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 and say something.

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 Fifth thing is,

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 have you met Christians

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 Christians who,

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 frankly,

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 are desperate

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 to kind of promote

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 Jesus and his kingdom,

00:19:56.740 --> 00:19:57.539
 but actually

00:19:57.539 --> 00:19:59.180
 have the net impact

00:19:59.180 --> 00:19:59.980
 of putting people

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 off massively?

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 You ever met people

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 like,

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 am I the only person

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 who meets people

00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:04.579
 like Ryan?

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 I mean,

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 very often they've got

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 a Bible the size

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 of a paving slab

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 and they'll go around

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 beating people

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 around the head

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 with it until,

00:20:12.339 --> 00:20:12.599
 you know,

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 people just give in

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 to get rid of you.

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 And I think there is

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 a kind of sensitivity

00:20:18.939 --> 00:20:21.879
 that's kind of required here,

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 but, you know,

00:20:22.539 --> 00:20:23.299
 that needs to be put

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 alongside a kind of boldness

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 as well.

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 I would say this,

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 I found this really helpful

00:20:29.099 --> 00:20:30.519
 when I was a young Christian.

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 I did this thing.

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 Anybody heard

00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:34.019
 of Evangelism Explosion?

00:20:34.740 --> 00:20:35.099
 Well,

00:20:35.299 --> 00:20:36.279
 you're going to be horrified

00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:36.919
 by it, right,

00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:37.959
 before I explain it,

00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:38.679
 just let me say.

00:20:39.419 --> 00:20:40.619
 Evangelism Explosion

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 was a process evangelism course

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 that was put together

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 in a church in Florida

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 by a man called James Kennedy.

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 Basically,

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 it was a door-to-door

00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:55.779
 visitation program.

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 I can see you,

00:20:57.059 --> 00:20:57.419
 you know,

00:20:57.559 --> 00:20:58.399
 scared already.

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 And what you did was

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 you learned

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 a kind of skeleton

00:21:02.579 --> 00:21:03.879
 of the gospel.

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 And the idea was

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 you knocked on the door,

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 somebody answered it,

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 and you would,

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 you know,

00:21:10.700 --> 00:21:11.539
 you were instructed

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 that you needed to do,

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 you know,

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 English people do this,

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 don't we?

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 You know,

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 there's a kind of intro

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 that we go through

00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:21.339
 in,

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 I just want to say

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 this phrase very carefully,

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 social intercourse.

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 There's something,

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 you know,

00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:28.019
 we go through,

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 we talk about the weather

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 or we say,

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 you know,

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 all that stuff.

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 So the course encouraged

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 you to kind of do

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 a bit of that stuff.

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 And then it had

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 a diagnostic question.

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 And at the right moment,

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 you're supposed to feed in

00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:41.180
 this diagnostic question.

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 And the,

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 it's a very good question,

00:21:42.940 --> 00:21:43.460
 this actually.

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 I mean,

00:21:43.779 --> 00:21:44.059
 you might,

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 don't,

00:21:44.740 --> 00:21:44.960
 you know,

00:21:45.019 --> 00:21:45.759
 mind it to room it.

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 But the diagnostic question was,

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 if you were to die tonight

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 and God were to say to you,

00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:53.360
 why would I let you

00:21:53.360 --> 00:21:53.920
 into heaven?

00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:55.240
 What would you say?

00:21:56.380 --> 00:21:57.380
 Some people would say

00:21:57.380 --> 00:21:58.079
 stuff like,

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 can you come back

00:21:59.180 --> 00:22:00.140
 after EastEnders

00:22:00.140 --> 00:22:00.799
 is finished?

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 interesting.

00:22:02.579 --> 00:22:03.740
 But a lot of people

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 would be like,

00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:04.399
 oh,

00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.779
 well,

00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:07.279
 you know,

00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:08.440
 I'm not perfect,

00:22:08.619 --> 00:22:08.819
 you know,

00:22:08.859 --> 00:22:09.839
 not religious,

00:22:10.899 --> 00:22:11.599
 but,

00:22:12.139 --> 00:22:13.539
 you know,

00:22:13.579 --> 00:22:14.579
 I try my best

00:22:14.579 --> 00:22:16.740
 given to kind of,

00:22:16.779 --> 00:22:17.059
 you know,

00:22:17.639 --> 00:22:18.460
 a comic aid

00:22:18.460 --> 00:22:20.039
 or all that stuff.

00:22:21.299 --> 00:22:21.799
 But it was all,

00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:23.240
 the idea was

00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.299
 that 99% of people,

00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:26.619
 scarily 99%

00:22:26.619 --> 00:22:27.720
 of church people,

00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:29.440
 place the emphasis

00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:30.500
 on their effort

00:22:30.500 --> 00:22:31.519
 to save themselves

00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:32.380
 rather than

00:22:32.380 --> 00:22:33.200
 the intervention

00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:34.720
 of God in Jesus Christ

00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:35.480
 who came

00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:36.960
 that we might do

00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:37.720
 for ourselves,

00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:38.380
 sorry,

00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:39.400
 he might do for us

00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:40.299
 what we could not do

00:22:40.299 --> 00:22:40.940
 for ourselves

00:22:40.940 --> 00:22:41.600
 and that is

00:22:41.600 --> 00:22:42.440
 save ourselves.

00:22:44.019 --> 00:22:44.740
 So having,

00:22:44.860 --> 00:22:45.080
 you know,

00:22:45.140 --> 00:22:46.660
 asked that question,

00:22:47.980 --> 00:22:50.460
 given that 99%

00:22:50.460 --> 00:22:51.019
 of people

00:22:51.019 --> 00:22:52.660
 gave the wrong answer,

00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:53.680
 it kind of gave you

00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:54.180
 a way in

00:22:54.180 --> 00:22:54.799
 to talk about

00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:55.340
 the gospel.

00:22:56.380 --> 00:22:57.100
 Do you know what?

00:22:57.700 --> 00:22:58.779
 I know you're sitting

00:22:58.779 --> 00:22:59.639
 there horrified

00:22:59.639 --> 00:23:00.839
 by the very idea

00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:01.680
 of it and,

00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:01.960
 you know,

00:23:01.980 --> 00:23:03.019
 I get that in a way.

00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:04.240
 Actually,

00:23:04.339 --> 00:23:05.299
 I find that a really

00:23:05.299 --> 00:23:06.119
 helpful thing.

00:23:06.220 --> 00:23:07.059
 I found it really

00:23:07.059 --> 00:23:09.079
 helpful to learn

00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:10.559
 a skeleton of the gospel

00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:12.259
 with some Bible verses

00:23:12.259 --> 00:23:13.079
 so it's not just

00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:13.879
 me talking,

00:23:14.059 --> 00:23:14.579
 it's, you know,

00:23:14.639 --> 00:23:15.519
 what scripture says

00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:16.119
 about this,

00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:16.839
 that and the other

00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:18.980
 and I found that

00:23:18.980 --> 00:23:19.680
 really helpful

00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:21.180
 and then I found

00:23:21.180 --> 00:23:22.059
 something else

00:23:22.059 --> 00:23:22.859
 really helpful

00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:24.220
 and that was

00:23:24.220 --> 00:23:25.460
 I went to a,

00:23:26.259 --> 00:23:27.339
 I think they call it

00:23:27.339 --> 00:23:27.920
 a clinic,

00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:28.240
 you know,

00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:29.279
 it's never a great

00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:30.080
 thing is it to call

00:23:30.080 --> 00:23:30.800
 something a clinic

00:23:30.800 --> 00:23:31.360
 because it implies

00:23:31.360 --> 00:23:31.980
 you're not well

00:23:31.980 --> 00:23:32.960
 before you get there

00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:34.620
 but the clinic

00:23:34.620 --> 00:23:36.759
 basically said

00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.180
 you need to be able

00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:39.320
 to give a thumbnail

00:23:39.320 --> 00:23:40.500
 sketch of your

00:23:40.500 --> 00:23:41.759
 Christian story

00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.060
 and you need to be able

00:23:44.060 --> 00:23:44.740
 to do that

00:23:44.740 --> 00:23:45.840
 within two minutes

00:23:45.840 --> 00:23:47.740
 and,

00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:48.300
 you know,

00:23:48.620 --> 00:23:49.600
 I think that is

00:23:49.600 --> 00:23:50.660
 another really

00:23:50.660 --> 00:23:51.480
 helpful thing

00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:51.960
 to do.

00:23:52.860 --> 00:23:53.039
 You know,

00:23:53.080 --> 00:23:53.840
 if somebody says

00:23:53.840 --> 00:23:54.300
 to you,

00:23:54.840 --> 00:23:55.140
 you know,

00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:56.360
 why are you a Christian?

00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:57.379
 What would you say?

00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:00.519
 And,

00:24:00.659 --> 00:24:00.959
 you know,

00:24:01.099 --> 00:24:02.379
 if you need,

00:24:02.479 --> 00:24:02.819
 you know,

00:24:02.899 --> 00:24:03.639
 two and a half hours

00:24:03.639 --> 00:24:04.459
 to drone on

00:24:04.459 --> 00:24:05.979
 to explain it to people,

00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:06.579
 they're probably going

00:24:06.579 --> 00:24:07.199
 to lose the will

00:24:07.199 --> 00:24:08.159
 to live by the time

00:24:08.159 --> 00:24:08.719
 you finish

00:24:08.719 --> 00:24:09.719
 trying to explain

00:24:09.719 --> 00:24:10.399
 it to them.

00:24:10.899 --> 00:24:11.740
 But the important

00:24:11.740 --> 00:24:12.579
 thing about trying

00:24:12.579 --> 00:24:14.019
 to set a limited

00:24:14.019 --> 00:24:14.859
 time

00:24:14.859 --> 00:24:19.019
 around your testimony

00:24:19.019 --> 00:24:19.819
 is this,

00:24:19.819 --> 00:24:21.179
 it helps you

00:24:21.179 --> 00:24:22.119
 to focus on

00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.019
 what is the real

00:24:25.019 --> 00:24:26.259
 change in my life

00:24:26.259 --> 00:24:26.960
 as a result

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:28.379
 of my discipleship

00:24:28.379 --> 00:24:29.659
 in Jesus Christ?

00:24:29.879 --> 00:24:31.539
 What is the thing

00:24:31.539 --> 00:24:33.059
 that God has really

00:24:33.059 --> 00:24:34.439
 changed in me?

00:24:36.059 --> 00:24:36.939
 I think it's

00:24:36.939 --> 00:24:37.759
 really important

00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:38.879
 and can I just say

00:24:38.879 --> 00:24:39.200
 that?

00:24:39.980 --> 00:24:40.779
 Can we agree

00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:42.119
 that it's really

00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:42.919
 not helpful

00:24:42.919 --> 00:24:45.379
 to kind of give

00:24:45.379 --> 00:24:46.059
 our testimony

00:24:46.059 --> 00:24:46.879
 and it's founded

00:24:46.879 --> 00:24:47.859
 on sort of

00:24:47.859 --> 00:24:49.519
 what I will politely

00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:50.559
 call simplistic

00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:51.079
 nonsense?

00:24:53.159 --> 00:24:53.619
 You know,

00:24:53.699 --> 00:24:54.259
 I'm not saying

00:24:54.259 --> 00:24:55.079
 that God doesn't

00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:56.579
 care where you

00:24:56.579 --> 00:24:57.479
 park your car,

00:24:58.119 --> 00:24:58.819
 but the kind of

00:24:58.819 --> 00:24:59.299
 testimony,

00:24:59.479 --> 00:24:59.699
 you know,

00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:00.799
 that goes like this,

00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:01.879
 I couldn't find

00:25:01.879 --> 00:25:02.839
 a parking space,

00:25:02.919 --> 00:25:03.039
 you know,

00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:03.579
 I needed to get

00:25:03.579 --> 00:25:04.119
 out of the car

00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:04.879
 because my

00:25:04.879 --> 00:25:05.899
 four-year-old

00:25:05.899 --> 00:25:06.439
 was desperate

00:25:06.439 --> 00:25:07.259
 for the bathroom

00:25:07.259 --> 00:25:07.619
 and,

00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:08.000
 you know,

00:25:08.059 --> 00:25:08.779
 God opened up

00:25:08.779 --> 00:25:09.059
 a car.

00:25:09.899 --> 00:25:10.839
 Let me tell you,

00:25:10.899 --> 00:25:11.399
 people are not

00:25:11.399 --> 00:25:12.679
 massively impressed

00:25:12.679 --> 00:25:13.419
 by that kind

00:25:13.419 --> 00:25:13.779
 of thing.

00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:15.939
 What they're much

00:25:15.939 --> 00:25:16.659
 more impressed

00:25:16.659 --> 00:25:17.079
 about is

00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:18.279
 when there was

00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:19.039
 a season of

00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:20.039
 adversity in

00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:20.720
 your life,

00:25:22.139 --> 00:25:23.059
 how did God

00:25:23.059 --> 00:25:23.839
 help you deal

00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:24.220
 with it?

00:25:25.419 --> 00:25:25.659
 You know,

00:25:25.679 --> 00:25:26.359
 maybe you went

00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:27.480
 through bereavement

00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:28.139
 or maybe you've

00:25:28.139 --> 00:25:28.539
 been through

00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:29.039
 divorce,

00:25:29.379 --> 00:25:30.199
 maybe you've

00:25:30.199 --> 00:25:31.679
 lost somebody

00:25:31.679 --> 00:25:32.559
 really close

00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:32.899
 to you,

00:25:33.019 --> 00:25:33.859
 maybe you've,

00:25:34.460 --> 00:25:35.159
 I mean,

00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:35.759
 maybe you've had

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:36.319
 none of those

00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:36.879
 old things and

00:25:36.879 --> 00:25:37.419
 for crying out

00:25:37.419 --> 00:25:37.639
 loud,

00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:38.139
 don't make

00:25:38.139 --> 00:25:38.759
 stuff up.

00:25:40.379 --> 00:25:41.039
 But actually,

00:25:41.199 --> 00:25:42.359
 I think it's

00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:43.039
 far more

00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:43.759
 impactful.

00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.379
 If you've got

00:25:46.379 --> 00:25:46.799
 something to

00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:47.379
 share about

00:25:47.379 --> 00:25:48.059
 the way God

00:25:48.059 --> 00:25:48.500
 helped you

00:25:48.500 --> 00:25:49.359
 through adversity,

00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:50.539
 then it is

00:25:50.539 --> 00:25:51.319
 talking about

00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:52.140
 God providing

00:25:52.140 --> 00:25:52.640
 you with a

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:53.599
 parking place.

00:25:56.879 --> 00:25:57.740
 Focus on

00:25:57.740 --> 00:25:58.740
 what has

00:25:58.740 --> 00:25:59.539
 changed in

00:25:59.539 --> 00:26:00.240
 your life

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:01.599
 as a result

00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:02.339
 of your

00:26:02.339 --> 00:26:02.859
 faith.

00:26:04.339 --> 00:26:05.000
 The seventh

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:05.440
 thing is,

00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:05.879
 and I'm glad

00:26:05.879 --> 00:26:06.619
 to say this

00:26:06.619 --> 00:26:07.680
 to churches

00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:08.420
 together in

00:26:08.420 --> 00:26:08.960
 Clevedon,

00:26:09.059 --> 00:26:09.700
 though clearly

00:26:09.700 --> 00:26:10.379
 this is a

00:26:10.379 --> 00:26:11.319
 ramification for

00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:12.700
 local congregations,

00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:14.400
 if together

00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.180
 we covenant

00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:16.180
 to seize the

00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:17.120
 opportunity to

00:26:17.120 --> 00:26:17.720
 share our

00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:18.160
 faith.

00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:20.059
 I think that's

00:26:20.059 --> 00:26:20.720
 a really good

00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:21.460
 thing to do.

00:26:22.220 --> 00:26:22.980
 And the reason

00:26:22.980 --> 00:26:24.059
 I think that

00:26:24.059 --> 00:26:25.240
 is that it

00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:25.840
 kind of builds

00:26:25.840 --> 00:26:26.319
 in a level

00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:27.000
 of accountability.

00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:27.799
 If we've got

00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:28.920
 stories to share

00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:29.580
 about when we

00:26:29.580 --> 00:26:30.160
 tried it,

00:26:30.460 --> 00:26:31.120
 that's a very

00:26:31.120 --> 00:26:32.140
 powerful thing.

00:26:33.460 --> 00:26:34.059
 Some of you

00:26:34.059 --> 00:26:34.420
 will know

00:26:34.420 --> 00:26:35.059
 Pip and Jay

00:26:35.059 --> 00:26:35.860
 Church in

00:26:35.860 --> 00:26:37.519
 Bristol was

00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:38.500
 one of those

00:26:38.500 --> 00:26:39.180
 churches that

00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:39.740
 went through

00:26:39.740 --> 00:26:41.140
 the very first

00:26:41.140 --> 00:26:42.660
 wave,

00:26:42.700 --> 00:26:43.319
 of renewal.

00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:46.620
 And it's

00:26:46.620 --> 00:26:47.460
 amazing back

00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:47.980
 in the day,

00:26:48.120 --> 00:26:48.259
 you know,

00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:48.819
 I saw

00:26:48.819 --> 00:26:49.340
 when old

00:26:49.340 --> 00:26:49.720
 Malcolm

00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:50.240
 Whittacombe

00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:51.480
 was the

00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:52.160
 rector there,

00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:53.080
 you know,

00:26:53.100 --> 00:26:53.640
 he stood up

00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:54.019
 there with

00:26:54.019 --> 00:26:54.380
 his big

00:26:54.380 --> 00:26:54.940
 pork chop,

00:26:55.080 --> 00:26:55.720
 sideboards,

00:26:55.900 --> 00:26:56.080
 you know,

00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.299
 holding forth

00:26:57.299 --> 00:26:57.680
 from the

00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:58.000
 pulpit.

00:26:58.480 --> 00:26:58.819
 And in turn,

00:26:58.880 --> 00:26:59.480
 it's a massive

00:26:59.480 --> 00:26:59.819
 church,

00:26:59.900 --> 00:27:00.460
 probably twice

00:27:00.460 --> 00:27:01.059
 the size of

00:27:01.059 --> 00:27:01.580
 this church,

00:27:02.100 --> 00:27:02.799
 standing room

00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:03.160
 only.

00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:06.019
 And,

00:27:06.100 --> 00:27:06.319
 you know,

00:27:06.360 --> 00:27:07.460
 he did his

00:27:07.460 --> 00:27:09.460
 thing there,

00:27:09.460 --> 00:27:12.640
 and they

00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:13.680
 covenanted

00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:14.480
 together as

00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:15.100
 a church

00:27:15.100 --> 00:27:16.720
 to be people

00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:17.420
 who would

00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:18.140
 seize the

00:27:18.140 --> 00:27:18.819
 opportunity,

00:27:19.019 --> 00:27:19.660
 if and when

00:27:19.660 --> 00:27:20.279
 it arose,

00:27:20.380 --> 00:27:21.140
 to share

00:27:21.140 --> 00:27:22.920
 their testimony.

00:27:24.220 --> 00:27:25.400
 The impact

00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:26.579
 was truly

00:27:26.579 --> 00:27:27.160
 staggering,

00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:27.819
 and what they

00:27:27.819 --> 00:27:28.480
 used to do

00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:29.160
 in the services,

00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:29.700
 I don't know

00:27:29.700 --> 00:27:30.240
 if they still

00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:30.460
 do,

00:27:30.579 --> 00:27:30.799
 it was,

00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:31.779
 they would

00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:32.640
 leave a

00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:33.500
 short time

00:27:33.500 --> 00:27:35.980
 for people

00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:36.620
 to come and

00:27:36.620 --> 00:27:37.120
 tell their

00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:37.920
 stories as to

00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:38.420
 when they'd

00:27:38.420 --> 00:27:39.080
 spoken about

00:27:39.080 --> 00:27:39.680
 their faith

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:40.160
 in the week,

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:40.580
 and the

00:27:40.580 --> 00:27:41.620
 outcome of

00:27:41.620 --> 00:27:42.400
 speaking about

00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:43.060
 their faith.

00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:44.160
 And very

00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:44.580
 often,

00:27:45.100 --> 00:27:45.259
 no,

00:27:45.340 --> 00:27:45.720
 not very

00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:46.000
 often,

00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:46.680
 occasionally,

00:27:47.340 --> 00:27:47.800
 they would

00:27:47.800 --> 00:27:48.320
 bring a

00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:48.820
 person to

00:27:48.820 --> 00:27:49.220
 the front

00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:49.519
 with them

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:49.920
 to share

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:50.160
 their

00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:50.660
 experience,

00:27:50.740 --> 00:27:50.860
 which is

00:27:50.860 --> 00:27:51.340
 the person

00:27:51.340 --> 00:27:51.640
 who they

00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:52.100
 shared the

00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:52.560
 faith with,

00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:53.380
 who come

00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:53.820
 to church

00:27:53.820 --> 00:27:54.140
 for the

00:27:54.140 --> 00:27:54.700
 first time,

00:27:54.980 --> 00:27:55.620
 maybe ever,

00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:57.140
 maybe for

00:27:57.140 --> 00:27:57.640
 years,

00:27:57.900 --> 00:27:58.860
 maybe not

00:27:58.860 --> 00:27:59.539
 for years.

00:28:00.940 --> 00:28:01.500
 The full

00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:02.100
 thing is,

00:28:02.380 --> 00:28:03.080
 I need to

00:28:03.080 --> 00:28:03.720
 say this to

00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:04.400
 those of you

00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:05.140
 who are

00:28:05.140 --> 00:28:10.400
 living on

00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:11.259
 yesterday's

00:28:11.259 --> 00:28:11.740
 spiritual

00:28:11.740 --> 00:28:12.700
 experience.

00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:13.880
 You know,

00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:14.280
 if you look

00:28:14.280 --> 00:28:15.380
 in Isaiah

00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:17.000
 64 and

00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:17.780
 verse 6,

00:28:17.900 --> 00:28:18.400
 the prophet

00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.060
 there writes

00:28:19.060 --> 00:28:20.300
 about those

00:28:20.300 --> 00:28:21.120
 whose spiritual

00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:22.440
 experience fades

00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:23.259
 like the leaves

00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:23.900
 in autumn.

00:28:26.840 --> 00:28:27.480
 I mean,

00:28:27.580 --> 00:28:28.180
 I think it's

00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:28.980
 much better if

00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:29.600
 your spiritual

00:28:29.600 --> 00:28:30.960
 experience is

00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:31.840
 fresh and you

00:28:31.840 --> 00:28:32.740
 try and maintain

00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:33.980
 it in a fresh

00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:34.340
 way.

00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:36.600
 rather than,

00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:37.080
 you know,

00:28:37.320 --> 00:28:38.060
 people say

00:28:38.060 --> 00:28:38.380
 to you,

00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:38.580
 you know,

00:28:38.620 --> 00:28:38.900
 what's the

00:28:38.900 --> 00:28:39.600
 most significant

00:28:39.600 --> 00:28:40.540
 moment in

00:28:40.540 --> 00:28:41.200
 your life?

00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:42.160
 I mean,

00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:42.800
 clearly your

00:28:42.800 --> 00:28:43.300
 conversion,

00:28:43.460 --> 00:28:43.840
 if it was a

00:28:43.840 --> 00:28:44.500
 long time ago,

00:28:44.540 --> 00:28:45.000
 is a very

00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:45.680
 significant

00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:46.240
 moment.

00:28:47.860 --> 00:28:48.680
 But if,

00:28:49.040 --> 00:28:49.460
 you know,

00:28:49.540 --> 00:28:50.040
 you're talking

00:28:50.040 --> 00:28:50.700
 about the

00:28:50.700 --> 00:28:51.360
 conference you

00:28:51.360 --> 00:28:51.820
 went to in

00:28:51.820 --> 00:28:52.620
 1957,

00:28:54.580 --> 00:28:54.860
 you know,

00:28:54.900 --> 00:28:56.180
 probably people

00:28:56.180 --> 00:28:56.840
 in today's

00:28:56.840 --> 00:28:57.420
 world are not

00:28:57.420 --> 00:28:58.000
 going to kind

00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:58.480
 of quite

00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:00.000
 resonate with

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:00.980
 the lack of

00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:02.340
 contemporaneity

00:29:02.340 --> 00:29:03.720
 around that.

00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.259
 So,

00:29:05.779 --> 00:29:06.100
 I want to

00:29:06.100 --> 00:29:06.440
 leave some

00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:06.880
 time for

00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:07.339
 questions.

00:29:07.500 --> 00:29:08.440
 But here are,

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:09.500
 are you ready

00:29:09.500 --> 00:29:10.039
 for this?

00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:10.839
 Buckle up.

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:11.700
 Ten things.

00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:13.660
 Practical tips.

00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:14.380
 One,

00:29:14.600 --> 00:29:15.279
 I don't need to

00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:15.539
 say.

00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:17.079
 Pray and pray

00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:18.779
 for people who

00:29:18.779 --> 00:29:20.539
 are not

00:29:20.539 --> 00:29:21.079
 Christians,

00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:22.220
 who you in

00:29:22.220 --> 00:29:22.900
 your heart would

00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:23.579
 love to see

00:29:23.579 --> 00:29:24.799
 across the line.

00:29:25.140 --> 00:29:26.180
 Second thing is,

00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:27.360
 you might need to

00:29:27.360 --> 00:29:27.960
 start with a

00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:28.759
 spiritual order.

00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:29.500
 Where are you?

00:29:30.460 --> 00:29:31.140
 Are you hot

00:29:31.140 --> 00:29:31.980
 for God or

00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:32.880
 are you lukewarm

00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:33.480
 for God?

00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:34.980
 You know,

00:29:35.019 --> 00:29:35.980
 is your experience

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:37.140
 like that which

00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:38.099
 Isaiah spoke

00:29:38.099 --> 00:29:38.380
 about?

00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:39.140
 Is it fading

00:29:39.140 --> 00:29:39.960
 like the autumn

00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:40.500
 leaves?

00:29:41.779 --> 00:29:42.059
 I mean,

00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:42.579
 you can't,

00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:42.960
 you know,

00:29:43.019 --> 00:29:43.559
 I know where

00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:44.079
 people are

00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:44.700
 moved and all

00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:45.279
 that stuff,

00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:46.660
 but generally,

00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:47.859
 generally,

00:29:48.019 --> 00:29:48.700
 would you say

00:29:48.700 --> 00:29:49.559
 you're hot for

00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:50.240
 God or would

00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:50.700
 you say,

00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:52.200
 yeah,

00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:52.839
 you know,

00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:54.279
 maybe not.

00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:55.859
 Third thing is,

00:29:56.500 --> 00:29:57.140
 you need to

00:29:57.140 --> 00:29:58.180
 build authentic

00:29:58.180 --> 00:29:59.000
 relationships.

00:29:59.000 --> 00:29:59.880
 I never

00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:00.279
 forgot,

00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:01.180
 when I went

00:30:01.180 --> 00:30:02.700
 to the church

00:30:02.700 --> 00:30:03.119
 where I was

00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:03.599
 a rector,

00:30:05.619 --> 00:30:06.400
 there were a

00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:07.099
 lot of

00:30:07.099 --> 00:30:09.539
 people in

00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:10.079
 middle age

00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:10.279
 there,

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:10.839
 nothing wrong

00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:11.240
 with that,

00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:11.720
 you know,

00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:12.460
 I am one,

00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:15.420
 but one of

00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:15.920
 the things

00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:16.559
 that,

00:30:16.700 --> 00:30:16.859
 you know,

00:30:16.900 --> 00:30:17.339
 I taught

00:30:17.339 --> 00:30:17.839
 them about

00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:18.500
 sharing their

00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:19.859
 faith and

00:30:19.859 --> 00:30:20.740
 taught them

00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:21.799
 about evangelism

00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.359
 and they come

00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:23.920
 to me and say,

00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:24.559
 you know what,

00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:25.420
 we don't really

00:30:25.420 --> 00:30:26.140
 have any friends

00:30:26.140 --> 00:30:27.059
 outside of the

00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:27.720
 church these

00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:28.160
 days.

00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.759
 I'm like,

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:31.400
 seriously,

00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:31.960
 you know,

00:30:32.420 --> 00:30:33.319
 I was quietly

00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:33.720
 thinking,

00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:34.299
 are you that

00:30:34.299 --> 00:30:34.700
 sad?

00:30:36.220 --> 00:30:36.500
 And,

00:30:36.660 --> 00:30:37.740
 no,

00:30:37.819 --> 00:30:38.279
 we don't.

00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:39.019
 I've never

00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:39.759
 forgotten this.

00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:40.079
 In fact,

00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:40.539
 we had that

00:30:40.539 --> 00:30:41.240
 man from

00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:42.039
 Florida come

00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:42.660
 to Slough

00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:43.140
 when I was

00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:43.720
 a cure at

00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:43.859
 there,

00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:44.720
 James Kennedy,

00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:45.839
 and the

00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:46.680
 Salvation Army

00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:47.119
 guy,

00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:47.779
 he'd been going

00:30:47.779 --> 00:30:48.240
 on about

00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:48.819
 evangelism

00:30:48.819 --> 00:30:49.299
 explosion,

00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:49.980
 the Salvation

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:50.619
 Army guy

00:30:50.619 --> 00:30:51.059
 was there,

00:30:51.140 --> 00:30:51.819
 lovely guy,

00:30:52.579 --> 00:30:53.039
 said to him,

00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:53.259
 well,

00:30:53.779 --> 00:30:54.240
 the problem

00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:54.819
 for me and

00:30:54.819 --> 00:30:55.160
 for my

00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:56.039
 congregation is

00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:56.779
 such a kind

00:30:56.779 --> 00:30:57.519
 of big social

00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:58.279
 thing as well

00:30:58.279 --> 00:30:58.759
 as a kind

00:30:58.759 --> 00:30:59.359
 of spiritual

00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.480
 thing that

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.079
 most of us

00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:01.539
 only have

00:31:01.539 --> 00:31:03.180
 socialized within

00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:04.019
 our immediate

00:31:04.019 --> 00:31:04.720
 circle.

00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:07.220
 So he said

00:31:07.220 --> 00:31:07.720
 to James

00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:08.139
 Kennedy,

00:31:08.299 --> 00:31:08.619
 do you have

00:31:08.619 --> 00:31:09.440
 any advice?

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:10.180
 Right,

00:31:10.299 --> 00:31:10.960
 don't follow

00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:11.339
 this.

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:12.799
 I think he

00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:13.299
 was joking.

00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:14.079
 He said,

00:31:14.159 --> 00:31:14.379
 yeah,

00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:15.639
 why don't you

00:31:15.639 --> 00:31:16.180
 go down to

00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:16.720
 the nudist

00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:17.139
 beach?

00:31:17.140 --> 00:31:21.280
 And we're

00:31:21.280 --> 00:31:21.620
 all kind

00:31:21.620 --> 00:31:21.920
 of having

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:22.380
 an attack

00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:22.660
 of the

00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:23.140
 vapors,

00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:23.400
 you know,

00:31:23.420 --> 00:31:23.680
 who are

00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:23.840
 going?

00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:27.320
 Look,

00:31:29.280 --> 00:31:30.520
 some of

00:31:30.520 --> 00:31:30.800
 you,

00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:31.720
 you know,

00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:32.080
 I know

00:31:32.080 --> 00:31:32.540
 some of

00:31:32.540 --> 00:31:32.620
 you,

00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:32.920
 I know

00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:33.360
 some of

00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:33.640
 you are

00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:34.220
 in roles

00:31:34.220 --> 00:31:34.780
 that put

00:31:34.780 --> 00:31:35.160
 you in

00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:35.540
 touch

00:31:35.540 --> 00:31:37.480
 with people

00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:37.759
 who are

00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:38.120
 going through

00:31:38.120 --> 00:31:38.660
 difficult

00:31:38.660 --> 00:31:39.400
 times in

00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:40.060
 their lives,

00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:40.560
 people who

00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:41.140
 don't know

00:31:41.140 --> 00:31:41.660
 Christ.

00:31:44.740 --> 00:31:45.540
 I think

00:31:45.540 --> 00:31:46.100
 that

00:31:46.099 --> 00:31:48.699
 you know,

00:31:48.740 --> 00:31:49.319
 the important

00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:49.959
 thing is that

00:31:49.959 --> 00:31:50.500
 we build

00:31:50.500 --> 00:31:51.179
 authentic

00:31:51.179 --> 00:31:51.859
 relationships,

00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:52.419
 not just

00:31:52.419 --> 00:31:53.199
 relationships

00:31:53.199 --> 00:31:54.759
 that solely

00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:55.419
 we're making

00:31:55.419 --> 00:31:56.019
 to try and

00:31:56.019 --> 00:31:57.099
 exploit them

00:31:57.099 --> 00:31:57.740
 in some

00:31:57.740 --> 00:31:57.980
 way,

00:31:58.299 --> 00:31:59.219
 but relationships

00:31:59.219 --> 00:31:59.879
 that,

00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.199
 you know,

00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:02.059
 are truly

00:32:02.059 --> 00:32:03.339
 reflecting the

00:32:03.339 --> 00:32:03.959
 love of God

00:32:03.959 --> 00:32:04.339
 for the

00:32:04.339 --> 00:32:05.799
 person that

00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:06.199
 we've been

00:32:06.199 --> 00:32:07.019
 praying for.

00:32:09.459 --> 00:32:10.319
 I've said

00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:11.219
 it'll help

00:32:11.219 --> 00:32:11.679
 if you can

00:32:11.679 --> 00:32:12.379
 find a way

00:32:12.379 --> 00:32:13.199
 of expressing

00:32:13.199 --> 00:32:14.039
 your allegiance

00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:14.740
 to Jesus

00:32:14.740 --> 00:32:15.279
 Christ,

00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:15.899
 which isn't

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:16.500
 particularly

00:32:16.500 --> 00:32:17.320
 off-putting.

00:32:18.080 --> 00:32:18.280
 I think

00:32:18.280 --> 00:32:18.660
 that's really

00:32:18.660 --> 00:32:19.060
 important.

00:32:19.220 --> 00:32:19.540
 Five,

00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:20.980
 be attentive

00:32:20.980 --> 00:32:21.460
 to the

00:32:21.460 --> 00:32:21.800
 Spirit.

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:22.860
 As I've

00:32:22.860 --> 00:32:23.440
 got older,

00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:24.900
 I was going

00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:25.320
 to say as

00:32:25.320 --> 00:32:25.800
 I've become

00:32:25.800 --> 00:32:26.400
 more mature

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:27.040
 in the faith,

00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:27.380
 but that

00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:27.700
 would be

00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:28.320
 stretching a

00:32:28.320 --> 00:32:28.600
 point.

00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:30.259
 But as I've

00:32:30.259 --> 00:32:30.880
 got older,

00:32:32.340 --> 00:32:33.040
 one of the

00:32:33.040 --> 00:32:34.040
 things that

00:32:34.040 --> 00:32:34.880
 I've noticed

00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:36.800
 is that

00:32:36.800 --> 00:32:37.560
 whereas in

00:32:37.560 --> 00:32:37.980
 the early

00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:38.740
 days of my

00:32:38.740 --> 00:32:39.259
 walk with

00:32:39.259 --> 00:32:39.620
 Jesus,

00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:42.080
 my life

00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:42.519
 with him

00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:43.460
 was confined

00:32:43.460 --> 00:32:44.019
 to kind of

00:32:44.019 --> 00:32:44.700
 20 minutes

00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:45.039
 in the

00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:45.680
 morning and

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.100
 a kind

00:32:46.100 --> 00:32:46.620
 of sign

00:32:46.620 --> 00:32:47.220
 off prayer

00:32:47.220 --> 00:32:48.059
 before I

00:32:48.059 --> 00:32:48.600
 crashed out

00:32:48.600 --> 00:32:49.059
 of bed

00:32:49.059 --> 00:32:50.039
 in the

00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:50.380
 evening.

00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:51.960
 But the

00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:52.519
 longer I've

00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:52.860
 been a

00:32:52.860 --> 00:32:53.180
 Christian,

00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:53.740
 the more

00:32:53.740 --> 00:32:54.360
 I feel

00:32:54.360 --> 00:32:54.720
 like,

00:32:54.779 --> 00:32:55.059
 if this

00:32:55.059 --> 00:32:55.279
 doesn't

00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:55.860
 sound too

00:32:55.860 --> 00:32:56.400
 fanciful,

00:32:57.080 --> 00:32:57.700
 that Jesus

00:32:57.700 --> 00:32:58.319
 is kind

00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:58.640
 of with

00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.100
 me wherever

00:33:00.100 --> 00:33:01.000
 I go and

00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:01.559
 whatever I

00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:01.819
 do.

00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:02.380
 I mean,

00:33:02.460 --> 00:33:03.160
 sometimes that's

00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:03.580
 great because

00:33:03.580 --> 00:33:04.279
 it starts me

00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:05.420
 sinning.

00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:07.460
 What's great

00:33:07.460 --> 00:33:08.519
 is I think

00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:09.299
 sometimes the

00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:10.080
 Holy Spirit can

00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:10.859
 give you those

00:33:10.859 --> 00:33:12.000
 notches to

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.740
 speak to

00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:15.279
 someone and

00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:16.419
 see where it

00:33:16.419 --> 00:33:16.639
 goes.

00:33:16.819 --> 00:33:17.279
 I think,

00:33:17.500 --> 00:33:17.879
 again, I

00:33:17.879 --> 00:33:18.319
 told the

00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:18.919
 congregation

00:33:18.919 --> 00:33:19.759
 here this.

00:33:20.339 --> 00:33:21.220
 I have a

00:33:21.220 --> 00:33:22.599
 question that

00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:23.259
 I ask people

00:33:23.259 --> 00:33:23.679
 that really

00:33:23.679 --> 00:33:24.559
 catches them.

00:33:25.779 --> 00:33:25.960
 You know,

00:33:25.980 --> 00:33:26.359
 it's a bit

00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:27.259
 like if you,

00:33:28.419 --> 00:33:29.079
 sorry to use

00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:29.980
 sporting analogy,

00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:30.559
 but it's a bit

00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.179
 like if you're

00:33:32.179 --> 00:33:33.099
 playing cricket

00:33:33.099 --> 00:33:35.179
 and suddenly

00:33:35.179 --> 00:33:35.639
 out of the

00:33:35.639 --> 00:33:36.059
 blue the

00:33:36.059 --> 00:33:36.919
 bowler boils

00:33:36.919 --> 00:33:37.460
 a bouncer

00:33:37.460 --> 00:33:37.759
 or your

00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:38.059
 head.

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:40.600
 It takes

00:33:40.600 --> 00:33:40.900
 you by

00:33:40.900 --> 00:33:41.480
 surprise.

00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:42.200
 And so my

00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:43.059
 question is

00:33:43.059 --> 00:33:43.700
 slightly designed

00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:44.299
 to do that

00:33:44.299 --> 00:33:44.700
 and it's

00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:45.380
 very simple.

00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:45.759
 It is,

00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:46.259
 you know,

00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:47.000
 I talk to

00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:47.660
 people a bit,

00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:47.960
 you know,

00:33:48.019 --> 00:33:48.920
 on a train,

00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:49.259
 where are you

00:33:49.259 --> 00:33:49.579
 going?

00:33:50.180 --> 00:33:50.759
 Going to

00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:51.259
 Paddington

00:33:51.259 --> 00:33:51.779
 Station,

00:33:51.980 --> 00:33:52.100
 yeah,

00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:52.380
 what are you

00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:52.880
 doing down

00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:53.180
 there?

00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:53.460
 You know,

00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:53.779
 all that.

00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:54.460
 And I'll

00:33:54.460 --> 00:33:54.620
 say,

00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:54.940
 so,

00:33:55.620 --> 00:33:56.180
 how's your

00:33:56.180 --> 00:33:56.539
 life?

00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:59.079
 And the

00:33:59.079 --> 00:33:59.460
 first thing

00:33:59.460 --> 00:34:00.120
 people tell

00:34:00.120 --> 00:34:00.380
 you is,

00:34:00.460 --> 00:34:00.900
 it's fine,

00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:01.420
 it's all

00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:01.779
 alright.

00:34:01.940 --> 00:34:03.000
 And then it

00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.559
 starts to

00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:03.980
 unravel.

00:34:05.019 --> 00:34:05.420
 Actually,

00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:06.220
 I'm going

00:34:06.220 --> 00:34:06.519
 through a

00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:07.180
 really difficult

00:34:07.180 --> 00:34:07.860
 divorce at

00:34:07.860 --> 00:34:08.280
 the moment.

00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:09.200
 Actually,

00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:10.240
 my husband

00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:11.019
 left me 20

00:34:11.019 --> 00:34:11.619
 years ago

00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:12.039
 when I was

00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:12.599
 four months

00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:13.220
 pregnant with

00:34:13.220 --> 00:34:13.740
 our fourth

00:34:13.740 --> 00:34:14.220
 child.

00:34:17.659 --> 00:34:18.220
 Actually,

00:34:19.820 --> 00:34:20.559
 I'm feeling

00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.619
 horrible malice

00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:23.360
 towards my

00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:23.900
 sister.

00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:24.700
 I've even

00:34:24.700 --> 00:34:25.099
 had somebody

00:34:25.099 --> 00:34:25.720
 say this to

00:34:25.720 --> 00:34:25.860
 me,

00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:26.480
 and I'd

00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:26.860
 like to

00:34:26.860 --> 00:34:27.240
 kill her.

00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:32.519
 it is

00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:33.139
 amazing.

00:34:33.139 --> 00:34:34.599
 It is

00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:35.199
 amazing.

00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:35.339
 A number of

00:34:35.339 --> 00:34:36.059
 times people

00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:36.659
 have said to

00:34:36.659 --> 00:34:36.899
 me,

00:34:37.319 --> 00:34:37.719
 I don't

00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:38.439
 think anybody

00:34:38.439 --> 00:34:38.939
 who knows

00:34:38.939 --> 00:34:39.399
 me would

00:34:39.399 --> 00:34:40.179
 probably say

00:34:40.179 --> 00:34:41.859
 that pastoral

00:34:41.859 --> 00:34:42.839
 care was top

00:34:42.839 --> 00:34:43.419
 of my gift

00:34:43.419 --> 00:34:43.799
 list,

00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:44.559
 honestly.

00:34:44.959 --> 00:34:45.319
 But the

00:34:45.319 --> 00:34:45.819
 number of

00:34:45.819 --> 00:34:46.279
 people who

00:34:46.279 --> 00:34:46.779
 just through

00:34:46.779 --> 00:34:47.119
 Chan's

00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:47.639
 conversation

00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:48.119
 said to

00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:48.279
 me,

00:34:48.799 --> 00:34:49.139
 you know

00:34:49.139 --> 00:34:49.379
 what,

00:34:49.399 --> 00:34:49.719
 I've never

00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:50.479
 told anybody

00:34:50.479 --> 00:34:51.179
 this before.

00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:53.719
 And even

00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:54.139
 in that,

00:34:54.219 --> 00:34:54.479
 there must

00:34:54.479 --> 00:34:54.919
 be some

00:34:54.919 --> 00:34:55.359
 kind of

00:34:55.359 --> 00:34:55.779
 release,

00:34:55.780 --> 00:34:56.200
 isn't there?

00:34:57.640 --> 00:34:58.420
 Galatians 5,

00:34:58.480 --> 00:34:59.100
 well we say

00:34:59.100 --> 00:34:59.580
 a burden

00:34:59.580 --> 00:35:00.440
 shared is a

00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:00.700
 burden

00:35:00.700 --> 00:35:01.180
 harved.

00:35:01.240 --> 00:35:01.540
 It's a

00:35:01.540 --> 00:35:01.860
 sort of

00:35:01.860 --> 00:35:02.480
 slight

00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.380
 distortion

00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:04.860
 of a

00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:05.340
 verse in

00:35:05.340 --> 00:35:06.200
 Galatians 5

00:35:06.200 --> 00:35:07.560
 where Paul

00:35:07.560 --> 00:35:07.860
 says,

00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:08.140
 you know,

00:35:09.220 --> 00:35:10.000
 share one

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:10.540
 another's

00:35:10.540 --> 00:35:11.340
 burdens and

00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:12.140
 so fulfill

00:35:12.140 --> 00:35:12.780
 the law of

00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:13.200
 Christ.

00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:15.720
 And you

00:35:15.720 --> 00:35:16.080
 could do

00:35:16.080 --> 00:35:16.400
 that.

00:35:17.060 --> 00:35:17.280
 You know,

00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:18.540
 and I

00:35:18.540 --> 00:35:18.800
 mean what

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:19.100
 you've got to

00:35:19.100 --> 00:35:19.560
 get through

00:35:19.560 --> 00:35:20.140
 is that,

00:35:21.060 --> 00:35:21.519
 you know,

00:35:21.560 --> 00:35:21.940
 as Dr.

00:35:22.040 --> 00:35:22.880
 House said,

00:35:23.140 --> 00:35:23.960
 those of you

00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:24.260
 who watched

00:35:24.260 --> 00:35:24.980
 that sing

00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:25.260
 on,

00:35:25.780 --> 00:35:26.980
 Netflix

00:35:26.980 --> 00:35:27.600
 or whatever,

00:35:28.140 --> 00:35:28.600
 everybody

00:35:28.600 --> 00:35:29.100
 lies.

00:35:29.220 --> 00:35:29.600
 So when you

00:35:29.600 --> 00:35:30.120
 ask people

00:35:30.120 --> 00:35:30.560
 about their

00:35:30.560 --> 00:35:30.760
 life,

00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:31.060
 they're going

00:35:31.060 --> 00:35:31.460
 to probably

00:35:31.460 --> 00:35:31.980
 lie to you

00:35:31.980 --> 00:35:32.480
 to start

00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:32.960
 with about

00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:33.400
 how good

00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:33.800
 it is.

00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:34.480
 But actually,

00:35:35.140 --> 00:35:35.620
 they keep

00:35:35.620 --> 00:35:36.160
 talking,

00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:39.060
 they probably

00:35:39.060 --> 00:35:39.620
 start to

00:35:39.620 --> 00:35:40.060
 unravel.

00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:41.440
 The sixth

00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:42.160
 thing is,

00:35:42.540 --> 00:35:42.860
 keep the

00:35:42.860 --> 00:35:43.300
 good news

00:35:43.300 --> 00:35:43.780
 fresh.

00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:44.340
 I've talked

00:35:44.340 --> 00:35:44.840
 about that.

00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:45.420
 The seventh

00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:46.200
 thing is,

00:35:47.019 --> 00:35:47.620
 what a

00:35:47.620 --> 00:35:48.519
 witness does

00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:49.980
 is they

00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:51.260
 share their

00:35:51.260 --> 00:35:52.140
 experience.

00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:56.379
 and again,

00:35:57.139 --> 00:35:57.559
 you know,

00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:57.859
 I would

00:35:57.859 --> 00:35:58.319
 think,

00:35:59.239 --> 00:35:59.519
 you know,

00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.079
 call me

00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:00.940
 novel,

00:36:01.179 --> 00:36:01.480
 but I

00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:01.960
 would think

00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:02.699
 that if

00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:02.980
 you've got

00:36:02.980 --> 00:36:03.879
 no experience,

00:36:04.059 --> 00:36:04.339
 it's probably

00:36:04.339 --> 00:36:04.639
 going to be

00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:05.259
 difficult for

00:36:05.259 --> 00:36:05.819
 you to share

00:36:05.819 --> 00:36:06.039
 it.

00:36:07.779 --> 00:36:08.440
 What is your

00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:09.279
 experience of

00:36:09.279 --> 00:36:09.539
 God?

00:36:10.659 --> 00:36:11.159
 Do you know

00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:11.879
 about him

00:36:11.879 --> 00:36:12.739
 or do you

00:36:12.739 --> 00:36:13.119
 know him?

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:17.739
 I think

00:36:17.739 --> 00:36:18.279
 it really

00:36:18.279 --> 00:36:19.159
 helps,

00:36:19.319 --> 00:36:19.420
 you know,

00:36:19.500 --> 00:36:19.779
 I mean,

00:36:19.839 --> 00:36:20.279
 I'm always

00:36:20.279 --> 00:36:20.659
 amazed,

00:36:20.739 --> 00:36:21.259
 to be honest

00:36:21.259 --> 00:36:21.739
 with you,

00:36:22.759 --> 00:36:23.039
 you know,

00:36:23.099 --> 00:36:23.940
 I don't

00:36:23.940 --> 00:36:24.259
 know if

00:36:24.259 --> 00:36:24.900
 I'm kind

00:36:24.900 --> 00:36:25.619
 of low

00:36:25.619 --> 00:36:25.940
 level

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:26.900
 Asperger's

00:36:26.900 --> 00:36:27.380
 or something

00:36:27.380 --> 00:36:27.920
 like that,

00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:28.139
 but,

00:36:28.299 --> 00:36:28.759
 you know,

00:36:28.799 --> 00:36:29.199
 I tend

00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:29.679
 to give

00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:30.440
 honest answers

00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:30.920
 to honest

00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:31.380
 questions.

00:36:31.500 --> 00:36:31.719
 It used

00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:32.159
 to drive

00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:32.699
 my press

00:36:32.699 --> 00:36:33.019
 officer

00:36:33.019 --> 00:36:33.599
 bonkers.

00:36:34.779 --> 00:36:34.900
 You know,

00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:35.359
 I remember

00:36:35.359 --> 00:36:35.739
 him saying

00:36:35.739 --> 00:36:35.920
 to me,

00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:36.139
 a very

00:36:36.139 --> 00:36:36.719
 sophisticated

00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:37.259
 man,

00:36:37.319 --> 00:36:37.819
 my press

00:36:37.819 --> 00:36:38.199
 officer,

00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.400
 he wrote

00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:40.319
 the world's

00:36:40.319 --> 00:36:40.960
 leading

00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:41.920
 treatise on

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:42.400
 being a

00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:42.739
 butler.

00:36:43.839 --> 00:36:43.940
 Right?

00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:44.819
 Terribly

00:36:44.819 --> 00:36:45.259
 formal,

00:36:45.500 --> 00:36:46.199
 very straight.

00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:47.119
 He'd been

00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:47.659
 a press

00:36:47.659 --> 00:36:48.460
 officer to

00:36:48.460 --> 00:36:49.139
 William and

00:36:49.139 --> 00:36:50.519
 Harry when

00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:50.859
 they went

00:36:50.859 --> 00:36:51.460
 through Eton.

00:36:52.219 --> 00:36:52.819
 And he

00:36:52.819 --> 00:36:53.380
 used to say

00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:53.699
 to me,

00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:53.960
 do you know

00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:54.179
 what the

00:36:54.179 --> 00:36:54.599
 trouble with

00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:55.000
 you is,

00:36:55.099 --> 00:36:55.400
 Mike?

00:36:56.819 --> 00:36:57.319
 You know,

00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:58.159
 when people

00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:58.839
 say that to

00:36:58.839 --> 00:36:58.920
 you,

00:36:58.980 --> 00:36:59.099
 like,

00:36:59.139 --> 00:36:59.519
 where's this

00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:00.099
 conversation

00:37:00.099 --> 00:37:00.500
 going to

00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:00.759
 go?

00:37:02.759 --> 00:37:03.539
 I said,

00:37:03.659 --> 00:37:04.279
 no,

00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:04.779
 but I think

00:37:04.779 --> 00:37:05.039
 you're going

00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:05.639
 to tell me.

00:37:05.739 --> 00:37:05.920
 He said,

00:37:05.980 --> 00:37:06.219
 the trouble

00:37:06.219 --> 00:37:06.759
 with you is

00:37:06.759 --> 00:37:07.279
 people ask

00:37:07.279 --> 00:37:07.500
 you a

00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:07.719
 straight

00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:08.139
 question,

00:37:08.259 --> 00:37:08.500
 you're in

00:37:08.500 --> 00:37:09.139
 grave danger

00:37:09.139 --> 00:37:09.440
 of giving

00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:09.739
 them a

00:37:09.739 --> 00:37:10.460
 straight answer.

00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:12.719
 I'm like,

00:37:12.759 --> 00:37:13.099
 so what's

00:37:13.099 --> 00:37:13.539
 the problem

00:37:13.539 --> 00:37:14.019
 with that?

00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:15.960
 It's like,

00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:17.079
 the press

00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:17.539
 will kill

00:37:17.539 --> 00:37:17.839
 you.

00:37:19.839 --> 00:37:20.400
 Well,

00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:20.759
 I'm still

00:37:20.759 --> 00:37:21.219
 alive.

00:37:26.219 --> 00:37:26.779
 Look,

00:37:27.779 --> 00:37:28.639
 sharing our

00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:29.980
 experience

00:37:29.980 --> 00:37:32.259
 and the

00:37:32.259 --> 00:37:32.539
 way,

00:37:32.759 --> 00:37:33.079
 you know,

00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:34.739
 I was going

00:37:34.739 --> 00:37:35.099
 to say

00:37:35.099 --> 00:37:35.119
 to say

00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:35.419
 that,

00:37:35.859 --> 00:37:36.239
 I'm

00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:36.479
 always

00:37:36.479 --> 00:37:37.119
 amazed

00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.559
 how many

00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:39.039
 people,

00:37:39.139 --> 00:37:39.479
 I wouldn't

00:37:39.479 --> 00:37:40.199
 surprise me,

00:37:40.299 --> 00:37:40.459
 Russ,

00:37:40.459 --> 00:37:40.799
 if people

00:37:40.799 --> 00:37:41.219
 didn't come

00:37:41.219 --> 00:37:41.619
 and say

00:37:41.619 --> 00:37:42.299
 that to

00:37:42.299 --> 00:37:42.819
 you this

00:37:42.819 --> 00:37:43.479
 morning after

00:37:43.479 --> 00:37:44.099
 that sermon.

00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:45.279
 People are

00:37:45.279 --> 00:37:46.899
 shocked by

00:37:46.899 --> 00:37:47.819
 ministers being

00:37:47.819 --> 00:37:48.259
 honest.

00:37:49.299 --> 00:37:49.559
 They're just

00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:50.139
 shocked by it.

00:37:50.139 --> 00:37:50.479
 They're like,

00:37:50.739 --> 00:37:51.039
 really?

00:37:51.299 --> 00:37:51.539
 You know,

00:37:51.659 --> 00:37:52.159
 you suffer

00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:52.679
 from that?

00:37:53.319 --> 00:37:53.579
 Yeah,

00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:54.639
 I do.

00:37:56.339 --> 00:37:56.639
 I don't

00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:57.079
 know if it's a

00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:57.659
 sense of let

00:37:57.659 --> 00:37:57.919
 down.

00:37:58.279 --> 00:37:58.919
 I can't

00:37:58.919 --> 00:38:00.659
 really understand

00:38:00.659 --> 00:38:01.019
 it.

00:38:01.019 --> 00:38:01.300
 I mean,

00:38:01.380 --> 00:38:02.099
 partly because

00:38:02.099 --> 00:38:03.179
 I've been a

00:38:03.179 --> 00:38:03.699
 minister for

00:38:03.699 --> 00:38:04.440
 so long now,

00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:04.759
 I can't

00:38:04.759 --> 00:38:05.219
 really remember

00:38:05.219 --> 00:38:05.739
 not being

00:38:05.739 --> 00:38:06.059
 one.

00:38:07.539 --> 00:38:08.199
 It just

00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:08.699
 shocks me

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:09.159
 that people

00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:09.500
 would be

00:38:09.500 --> 00:38:09.860
 shocked.

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:10.980
 It's like,

00:38:11.059 --> 00:38:11.259
 you know,

00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:11.820
 when you're

00:38:11.820 --> 00:38:12.239
 looking for

00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:12.800
 a minister,

00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:14.219
 are you

00:38:14.219 --> 00:38:14.780
 really looking

00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:15.139
 for a

00:38:15.139 --> 00:38:15.380
 liar?

00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:18.099
 It just

00:38:18.099 --> 00:38:18.659
 seems mad

00:38:18.659 --> 00:38:19.179
 when you say

00:38:19.179 --> 00:38:19.719
 it like that,

00:38:19.759 --> 00:38:20.099
 doesn't it?

00:38:20.739 --> 00:38:21.059
 So,

00:38:21.179 --> 00:38:21.340
 sharing,

00:38:21.739 --> 00:38:22.239
 the eighth

00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:22.679
 thing is

00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:23.440
 sensitive

00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:24.440
 persistence.

00:38:25.780 --> 00:38:26.199
 How many

00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:26.679
 of you have

00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:27.079
 asked and

00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:27.699
 bucked up

00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:28.300
 the courage

00:38:28.300 --> 00:38:28.800
 and asked

00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:29.139
 a friend,

00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:29.940
 come to our

00:38:29.940 --> 00:38:30.599
 guest service,

00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:30.900
 come,

00:38:31.420 --> 00:38:31.940
 and they've

00:38:31.940 --> 00:38:32.559
 made some

00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:33.659
 feeble excuse

00:38:33.659 --> 00:38:34.219
 and you've

00:38:34.219 --> 00:38:34.440
 thought,

00:38:34.500 --> 00:38:34.639
 oh,

00:38:34.699 --> 00:38:35.179
 that's it.

00:38:36.460 --> 00:38:36.759
 No.

00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:38.319
 You've got to

00:38:38.319 --> 00:38:38.839
 keep going.

00:38:40.279 --> 00:38:40.659
 You know,

00:38:40.779 --> 00:38:41.139
 there's a

00:38:41.139 --> 00:38:41.380
 man,

00:38:41.579 --> 00:38:41.940
 it wouldn't

00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:42.339
 be right

00:38:42.339 --> 00:38:42.759
 for me to

00:38:42.759 --> 00:38:43.239
 share his

00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:43.480
 name,

00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:43.940
 he's a

00:38:43.940 --> 00:38:44.440
 multi,

00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:45.440
 balty,

00:38:45.799 --> 00:38:46.659
 squillion,

00:38:47.019 --> 00:38:47.420
 billion,

00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:48.339
 billionaire,

00:38:49.339 --> 00:38:49.980
 made an

00:38:49.980 --> 00:38:51.380
 absolute fortune,

00:38:51.500 --> 00:38:51.920
 he's on the

00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:52.739
 radio fairly

00:38:52.739 --> 00:38:53.440
 frequently,

00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:54.900
 not because

00:38:54.900 --> 00:38:55.400
 he's been

00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:56.400
 sexually abusing

00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.119
 or racially

00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:57.619
 abusing

00:38:57.619 --> 00:38:58.239
 anybody,

00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.059
 but because

00:39:00.059 --> 00:39:00.719
 he has

00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:01.480
 standards that

00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:02.039
 he applies

00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:02.420
 to his

00:39:02.420 --> 00:39:03.420
 business and

00:39:03.420 --> 00:39:04.219
 the rest of

00:39:04.219 --> 00:39:04.719
 the business

00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:05.619
 world just

00:39:05.619 --> 00:39:06.199
 don't get it.

00:39:06.279 --> 00:39:06.860
 For instance,

00:39:07.219 --> 00:39:07.980
 he will not

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:08.880
 have any of

00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:09.559
 his employees,

00:39:09.759 --> 00:39:10.059
 he's in

00:39:10.059 --> 00:39:10.559
 retail,

00:39:11.019 --> 00:39:11.360
 partly,

00:39:11.739 --> 00:39:12.299
 he will not

00:39:12.299 --> 00:39:12.880
 have any of

00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:13.480
 his employees

00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:14.119
 work on a

00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:14.400
 Sunday.

00:39:15.940 --> 00:39:16.539
 So they're

00:39:16.539 --> 00:39:17.179
 very interested

00:39:17.179 --> 00:39:17.519
 in him in

00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:18.000
 the media,

00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:18.460
 you know,

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:19.279
 how does

00:39:19.279 --> 00:39:19.779
 your business

00:39:19.779 --> 00:39:20.400
 plan work

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:21.059
 without Sunday

00:39:21.059 --> 00:39:21.519
 trading?

00:39:22.659 --> 00:39:23.019
 It's like,

00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:23.519
 works very

00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:23.759
 well,

00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:24.239
 thank you.

00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:25.920
 Why,

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:26.320
 you know,

00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:27.940
 because God

00:39:27.940 --> 00:39:29.800
 blesses us

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:30.480
 because we,

00:39:31.460 --> 00:39:31.720
 you know,

00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:32.019
 we're trying

00:39:32.019 --> 00:39:32.519
 to live by

00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:32.940
 the way he

00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:33.360
 wants us

00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:33.820
 to live.

00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:35.980
 And,

00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:37.720
 but,

00:39:37.940 --> 00:39:38.539
 I remember

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:40.420
 for years

00:39:40.420 --> 00:39:41.320
 and years

00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:42.080
 and years

00:39:42.080 --> 00:39:42.680
 I used to

00:39:42.680 --> 00:39:43.440
 phone him

00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:44.460
 up when

00:39:44.460 --> 00:39:44.960
 we had,

00:39:46.140 --> 00:39:46.800
 I'm trying

00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:47.240
 to remember

00:39:47.240 --> 00:39:47.840
 how often

00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:48.160
 men,

00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:49.140
 there were

00:39:49.140 --> 00:39:49.519
 men's

00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:50.019
 breakfasts

00:39:50.019 --> 00:39:50.320
 in those

00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:50.500
 days,

00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:51.080
 I apologize

00:39:51.080 --> 00:39:51.600
 to the

00:39:51.600 --> 00:39:52.000
 women in

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:52.400
 the house

00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:52.760
 for that,

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:53.280
 but that's

00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:53.580
 the way

00:39:53.580 --> 00:39:54.019
 they were

00:39:54.019 --> 00:39:54.460
 back in

00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:54.840
 the day.

00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.420
 I can't

00:39:56.420 --> 00:39:56.780
 remember

00:39:56.780 --> 00:39:57.320
 how often

00:39:57.320 --> 00:39:57.900
 we had,

00:39:58.079 --> 00:39:58.820
 but a number

00:39:58.820 --> 00:39:59.220
 of times

00:39:59.220 --> 00:39:59.680
 I got on

00:39:59.680 --> 00:40:00.019
 the phone

00:40:00.019 --> 00:40:00.420
 to this

00:40:00.420 --> 00:40:00.780
 guy and

00:40:00.780 --> 00:40:00.900
 said,

00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:01.300
 would you

00:40:01.300 --> 00:40:01.640
 come?

00:40:02.340 --> 00:40:03.000
 He always

00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:03.519
 made some

00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:04.340
 feeble excuse,

00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:05.019
 never came,

00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:06.140
 but I kept

00:40:06.140 --> 00:40:06.740
 making the

00:40:06.740 --> 00:40:07.240
 calls,

00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:08.280
 and in

00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:08.660
 the end

00:40:08.660 --> 00:40:09.079
 he said,

00:40:09.220 --> 00:40:09.539
 yes,

00:40:09.640 --> 00:40:10.079
 when Barry

00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:10.620
 Kissel

00:40:10.620 --> 00:40:11.120
 from

00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:13.000
 St.

00:40:13.059 --> 00:40:13.500
 Andrew's

00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:14.019
 Chorleywood

00:40:14.019 --> 00:40:14.460
 was our

00:40:14.460 --> 00:40:14.980
 speaker,

00:40:16.059 --> 00:40:16.720
 soundly

00:40:16.720 --> 00:40:17.240
 converted

00:40:17.240 --> 00:40:19.660
 at 9.47

00:40:19.660 --> 00:40:20.200
 in the

00:40:20.200 --> 00:40:20.519
 morning,

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.019
 he's given

00:40:22.019 --> 00:40:23.019
 millions

00:40:23.019 --> 00:40:23.660
 of his

00:40:23.660 --> 00:40:24.800
 wealth

00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:25.580
 away to

00:40:25.580 --> 00:40:26.800
 churches,

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:27.820
 charities,

00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:29.100
 whatever.

00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:32.060
 And I'm

00:40:32.060 --> 00:40:32.539
 not taking

00:40:32.539 --> 00:40:33.260
 any credit

00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:33.680
 for that,

00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:34.260
 it's purely

00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:34.740
 the work

00:40:34.740 --> 00:40:35.140
 of God

00:40:35.140 --> 00:40:35.440
 and the

00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:35.820
 power of

00:40:35.820 --> 00:40:36.180
 his Holy

00:40:36.180 --> 00:40:36.560
 Spirit

00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:37.080
 revealing

00:40:37.080 --> 00:40:37.740
 himself to

00:40:37.740 --> 00:40:38.340
 my friend,

00:40:38.539 --> 00:40:40.700
 but I

00:40:40.700 --> 00:40:41.220
 sometimes

00:40:41.220 --> 00:40:41.600
 wonder,

00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:42.340
 if I'd

00:40:42.340 --> 00:40:42.980
 given up

00:40:42.980 --> 00:40:43.700
 phoning him,

00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:45.420
 because you

00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:45.780
 know what,

00:40:45.780 --> 00:40:46.240
 it just gets

00:40:46.240 --> 00:40:46.840
 embarrassing,

00:40:48.700 --> 00:40:49.780
 but if I'd

00:40:49.780 --> 00:40:50.400
 given it up,

00:40:50.720 --> 00:40:51.360
 I'm not saying

00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:51.660
 he wouldn't

00:40:51.660 --> 00:40:52.000
 have become

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:52.460
 a Christian,

00:40:52.580 --> 00:40:52.820
 it must

00:40:52.820 --> 00:40:53.080
 have been

00:40:53.080 --> 00:40:53.700
 somewhere in

00:40:53.700 --> 00:40:54.420
 God's plan,

00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:55.320
 but I'm

00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:55.860
 just telling

00:40:55.860 --> 00:40:56.000
 you,

00:40:56.220 --> 00:40:56.920
 don't be,

00:40:57.200 --> 00:40:57.380
 you know,

00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:58.120
 somebody says

00:40:58.120 --> 00:40:58.900
 no once,

00:40:59.280 --> 00:40:59.960
 keep rattling

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:00.720
 that cage,

00:41:02.100 --> 00:41:02.820
 keep rattling

00:41:02.820 --> 00:41:03.140
 it.

00:41:05.620 --> 00:41:06.400
 The only thing

00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:06.760
 is,

00:41:07.140 --> 00:41:08.039
 as Peter

00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:08.560
 would tell

00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:08.740
 us,

00:41:08.900 --> 00:41:09.620
 always be

00:41:09.620 --> 00:41:10.120
 ready.

00:41:12.200 --> 00:41:12.420
 You know,

00:41:12.460 --> 00:41:13.000
 have some

00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:13.620
 idea of

00:41:13.620 --> 00:41:13.960
 what you

00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:14.519
 would say.

00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:16.380
 You know,

00:41:16.580 --> 00:41:17.360
 when I was

00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:17.760
 in local

00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:18.560
 church ministry,

00:41:18.680 --> 00:41:18.960
 we did a

00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:19.680
 bit of research

00:41:19.680 --> 00:41:20.060
 with our

00:41:20.060 --> 00:41:20.620
 members,

00:41:21.019 --> 00:41:21.600
 and we

00:41:21.600 --> 00:41:22.019
 said to

00:41:22.019 --> 00:41:22.160
 them,

00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:22.559
 suppose

00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:23.000
 somebody

00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:23.539
 came to

00:41:23.539 --> 00:41:23.819
 you,

00:41:24.859 --> 00:41:25.500
 and said,

00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:25.940
 Harry,

00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:27.119
 Mary,

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:28.920
 I've been

00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:29.619
 thinking about

00:41:29.619 --> 00:41:30.339
 this Christian

00:41:30.339 --> 00:41:30.899
 thing,

00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.460
 and I

00:41:33.460 --> 00:41:33.859
 just want to

00:41:33.859 --> 00:41:34.379
 say to you

00:41:34.379 --> 00:41:34.739
 that I would

00:41:34.739 --> 00:41:35.500
 love to become

00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:35.980
 a Christian,

00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:36.399
 but I don't

00:41:36.399 --> 00:41:36.859
 know how to

00:41:36.859 --> 00:41:37.139
 do it,

00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:37.759
 what should I

00:41:37.759 --> 00:41:38.019
 do?

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:39.920
 I just

00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:40.179
 think,

00:41:40.319 --> 00:41:40.480
 you know,

00:41:40.579 --> 00:41:41.619
 suppose you're

00:41:41.619 --> 00:41:42.239
 that person,

00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:43.179
 somebody's come

00:41:43.179 --> 00:41:43.619
 to you,

00:41:45.379 --> 00:41:46.480
 entirely positive

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:46.920
 about the

00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:47.519
 Christian faith,

00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:48.440
 wants to say,

00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:49.179
 what would you

00:41:49.179 --> 00:41:49.460
 say?

00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:50.539
 Well,

00:41:50.579 --> 00:41:50.860
 what we

00:41:50.860 --> 00:41:51.740
 discovered was

00:41:51.740 --> 00:41:52.300
 that over

00:41:52.300 --> 00:41:53.480
 90% of our

00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:54.420
 congregation said,

00:41:54.500 --> 00:41:54.900
 go and see

00:41:54.900 --> 00:41:55.260
 Mike.

00:41:57.659 --> 00:41:58.159
 I mean,

00:41:58.240 --> 00:41:58.900
 can you imagine

00:41:58.900 --> 00:41:59.840
 the bottleneck

00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:00.220
 that would

00:42:00.220 --> 00:42:03.179
 occur if you

00:42:03.179 --> 00:42:03.760
 just left it

00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:04.400
 to ministers

00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:05.460
 all the time?

00:42:07.139 --> 00:42:07.539
 You know,

00:42:07.579 --> 00:42:08.240
 I always say

00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:09.079
 as an evangelist,

00:42:09.179 --> 00:42:09.960
 my job's made

00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:10.800
 a lot easier

00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:11.920
 when you get

00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:13.119
 that what Jesus

00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:14.000
 has called you

00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:14.320
 to,

00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:15.400
 whether you're

00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:16.119
 an introvert

00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:17.099
 or an extrovert,

00:42:17.260 --> 00:42:18.159
 no excuses,

00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:19.599
 Jesus said

00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:20.159
 just before

00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:20.619
 he went to

00:42:20.619 --> 00:42:20.779
 heaven,

00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:21.480
 you will

00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:22.099
 be my

00:42:22.099 --> 00:42:22.599
 witnesses.

00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:25.219
 Didn't say

00:42:25.219 --> 00:42:26.059
 a few,

00:42:26.059 --> 00:42:26.440
 a few

00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:27.019
 you keen

00:42:27.019 --> 00:42:27.440
 ones,

00:42:27.759 --> 00:42:28.059
 you know,

00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:28.579
 might like

00:42:28.579 --> 00:42:29.099
 to step

00:42:29.099 --> 00:42:29.559
 up now

00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:29.980
 and then.

00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:30.899
 No,

00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:31.319
 you,

00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:32.000
 plural.

00:42:35.139 --> 00:42:36.859
 And as

00:42:36.859 --> 00:42:37.659
 an evangelist,

00:42:37.799 --> 00:42:38.739
 if you take

00:42:38.739 --> 00:42:39.659
 that responsibility

00:42:39.659 --> 00:42:40.559
 seriously,

00:42:41.099 --> 00:42:41.759
 I'm not saying

00:42:41.759 --> 00:42:42.539
 my job as an

00:42:42.539 --> 00:42:43.019
 evangelist

00:42:43.019 --> 00:42:43.960
 becomes easier,

00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:44.559
 but I am

00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:45.039
 going to say

00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:45.400
 do,

00:42:45.980 --> 00:42:46.500
 I think

00:42:46.500 --> 00:42:47.400
 it's better

00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:48.320
 than it was

00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:49.480
 if I'm doing

00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:50.159
 it against,

00:42:50.579 --> 00:42:50.940
 you know,

00:42:50.980 --> 00:42:51.440
 a church

00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:52.039
 which behaves

00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:52.440
 like the

00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:53.559
 silent minority.

00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:55.340
 And by the

00:42:55.340 --> 00:42:55.579
 way,

00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:56.460
 if you behave

00:42:56.460 --> 00:42:56.860
 like the

00:42:56.860 --> 00:42:57.639
 silent minority,

00:42:57.860 --> 00:42:58.279
 trust me,

00:42:58.320 --> 00:42:58.900
 you will remain

00:42:58.900 --> 00:42:59.420
 the silent

00:42:59.420 --> 00:43:00.079
 minority.

00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:03.480
 And the

00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:04.000
 last thing

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:04.320
 is,

00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:05.279
 borrowing it

00:43:05.279 --> 00:43:06.259
 from a story

00:43:06.259 --> 00:43:07.860
 in Matthew's

00:43:07.860 --> 00:43:08.300
 gospel,

00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:09.960
 comes a point

00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:10.500
 where friends,

00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:10.840
 you've just

00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:11.199
 got to get

00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:11.579
 out of the

00:43:11.579 --> 00:43:11.860
 boat.

00:43:13.279 --> 00:43:13.579
 You've got to

00:43:13.579 --> 00:43:14.139
 have a go.

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:16.659
 You're thinking

00:43:16.659 --> 00:43:17.079
 to yourself,

00:43:17.179 --> 00:43:17.519
 what if I

00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:18.139
 mess it up?

00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:18.739
 What if you

00:43:18.739 --> 00:43:18.960
 do?

00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:20.440
 You know,

00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:20.799
 have you ever

00:43:20.799 --> 00:43:21.279
 messed up

00:43:21.279 --> 00:43:21.900
 anything else?

00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:26.259
 I'm sure

00:43:26.259 --> 00:43:27.880
 that we

00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:28.980
 can all

00:43:28.980 --> 00:43:30.619
 have good

00:43:30.619 --> 00:43:31.699
 examples of

00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:32.500
 conversations

00:43:32.500 --> 00:43:33.039
 that we've

00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:34.500
 initiated which

00:43:34.500 --> 00:43:35.059
 really haven't

00:43:35.059 --> 00:43:35.579
 gone well.

00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:36.119
 I mean,

00:43:36.579 --> 00:43:37.159
 I could write

00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:37.719
 a book about

00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:38.539
 the conversations

00:43:38.539 --> 00:43:39.559
 I've initiated

00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:40.940
 that haven't

00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:41.500
 gone well.

00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:45.019
 my wife

00:43:45.019 --> 00:43:45.319
 was with

00:43:45.319 --> 00:43:45.699
 me one

00:43:45.699 --> 00:43:45.860
 day,

00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:46.279
 she just

00:43:46.279 --> 00:43:47.079
 stopped me

00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:47.819
 in time.

00:43:48.619 --> 00:43:48.880
 I was

00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:49.319
 talking to

00:43:49.319 --> 00:43:49.940
 this bloke

00:43:49.940 --> 00:43:50.279
 and I

00:43:50.279 --> 00:43:50.739
 didn't really

00:43:50.739 --> 00:43:51.400
 recognize him,

00:43:51.420 --> 00:43:51.759
 I thought he

00:43:51.759 --> 00:43:52.199
 was vaguely

00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:52.719
 familiar,

00:43:52.900 --> 00:43:53.440
 I was talking

00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:54.079
 away and

00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:55.039
 he had his

00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:56.840
 little one

00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:57.239
 year old

00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:57.840
 child in

00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:59.380
 his arm and

00:43:59.380 --> 00:44:00.019
 I was talking

00:44:00.019 --> 00:44:00.659
 to him thinking,

00:44:00.860 --> 00:44:01.360
 do I know

00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:01.500
 you?

00:44:01.579 --> 00:44:01.960
 I don't,

00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:02.599
 I know you,

00:44:02.699 --> 00:44:03.059
 I know you.

00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:05.059
 Just about to

00:44:05.059 --> 00:44:05.860
 say to him,

00:44:06.739 --> 00:44:08.739
 has Christopher

00:44:08.739 --> 00:44:09.880
 been baptized?

00:44:10.059 --> 00:44:10.559
 When Anthea

00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:11.360
 whispered in my

00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:11.519
 ear,

00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:11.960
 you're his

00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:12.619
 godfather.

00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:21.400
 Out of the

00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:22.000
 mouths of

00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:22.519
 babes and

00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:22.960
 idiots.

00:44:24.420 --> 00:44:24.980
 Look,

00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:27.079
 2 Kings 7

00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:28.039
 I think

00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:29.400
 puts very

00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:30.320
 well in

00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:31.179
 that wonderful

00:44:31.179 --> 00:44:31.780
 verse,

00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:33.860
 the kernel

00:44:33.860 --> 00:44:34.920
 of what I'm

00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:35.539
 saying to you.

00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:35.880
 Look,

00:44:36.539 --> 00:44:37.239
 either this

00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:37.960
 thing that's

00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:39.619
 changed and

00:44:39.619 --> 00:44:40.519
 changing my

00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:41.019
 life and

00:44:41.019 --> 00:44:41.460
 hopefully

00:44:41.460 --> 00:44:42.639
 changed and

00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:43.519
 changing your

00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:44.019
 life,

00:44:45.139 --> 00:44:46.099
 is the best

00:44:46.099 --> 00:44:46.920
 news that we

00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:47.380
 could share

00:44:47.380 --> 00:44:47.840
 with another

00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:48.659
 human being.

00:44:49.259 --> 00:44:49.980
 Because if it's

00:44:49.980 --> 00:44:50.480
 not, we have

00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:51.119
 every right to

00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:52.000
 keep still about

00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:52.280
 it.

00:44:52.780 --> 00:44:53.280
 It's not a

00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:53.920
 message about

00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:54.519
 the church,

00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:55.880
 it's a message

00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.699
 about the

00:44:57.699 --> 00:44:59.119
 redeeming power

00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.119
 of God

00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:02.639
 shown to us

00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:03.259
 in Jesus

00:45:03.260 --> 00:45:04.020
 Christ on

00:45:04.020 --> 00:45:04.560
 the cross

00:45:04.560 --> 00:45:05.340
 of Calvary.

00:45:06.940 --> 00:45:07.300
 Bearing

00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:08.420
 shame and

00:45:08.420 --> 00:45:09.520
 scoffing rude,

00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:10.580
 in my place

00:45:10.580 --> 00:45:11.600
 condemned he

00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:12.120
 stood,

00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:13.460
 sealed my

00:45:13.460 --> 00:45:14.200
 pardon with

00:45:14.200 --> 00:45:14.880
 his blood.

00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:16.640
 Alleluia.

00:45:16.860 --> 00:45:17.320
 What a

00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:17.620
 savior.

00:45:17.619 --> 00:45:17.819
 fear.