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 Would someone, I guess we'll start, would someone be willing to open us in prayer?

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 Thank you.

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 Father, we just want to heed your words from the sermon this morning that the most important thing is to be with you.

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 So as we come to study your word, just keep us from being puffed up by just by knowing in an intellectual way.

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 But rather let us seek to draw near to you in a relational way through that knowledge.

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 But never let us, don't let us, don't let the goal leave our sights.

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 Lord, we seek to love you.

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 You loved us first.

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 Just create in our hearts a deeper desire and love for you.

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 In your name, amen.

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 Yes, so the attribute of God we're going to talk about today is God's glory.

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 So this is the last of the attributes of God that we were going to talk about.

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 I confess I do not remember all the other ones we covered.

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 But this will be the last one, which in some ways I think is fitting because as I was putting this together,

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 I was just struck by the ways that the many attributes of God glorify him and how his glory,

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 yeah, really kind of ties in together a lot of the other attributes of God.

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 So just for a quick definition, because I feel like we use the word glory a lot.

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 And I was actually not entirely sure what it meant until I looked it up.

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 But God's eternal, it's kind of used to mean God's eternal splendor and majesty and power.

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 So I kind of want to start.

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 Yeah, and I think the hard thing about teaching a Sunday school class or talking about God's glory

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 is that it's pretty unfathomable to the human mind.

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 Actually, as Pastor Matt talked about today, in the passage in Exodus 33,

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 when we see Moses asked to see the Lord, he can't even see.

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 He has to only when he asked to see the glory of the Lord, he has to be almost protected from it

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 because it's so large and so big, which begs the question, how do we talk about it?

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 How do we see God's glory in our lives if it's this unfathomable

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 or if we can't look God in the face per se?

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 Yeah.

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 And which leads me to my first question.

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 Where do you guys see God's glory?

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 Good nature.

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 Yeah.

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 What?

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 Mankind.

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 Yeah.

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 Mankind.

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 Yeah.

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 I was thinking with Susan, when I first saw that, the Rocky Mountains.

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 Or the Alps.

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 Yeah.

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 That stuff, just sort of, that was my initial.

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 Yeah.

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 Quiet moment.

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 Let's get the same.

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 Let's get the same here.

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 Hmm.

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 With regard to nature, I remember reading a scientific American article,

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 and this person who I would guess did not believe in God, just could not contain themselves, it seemed,

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 with the glory of nature.

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 Hmm.

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 And so, as the person wrote on, it just seemed like a worship service, you know, just praising, you know, the natural world.

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 It was incredible.

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 It was incredible.

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 It was incredible.

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 It was incredible.

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 And not only, like, the big natural things we see, like the mountains, but also the microscopic things, like souls.

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 Pretty amazing.

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 Yes.

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 Yes.

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 Yes.

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 Yeah.

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 So, I think that is my first bullet point.

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 I think one of the ways we can see God's glory is in creation or nature, both the very, very minute and tiny and the very big, like the Alps and the Rocky Mountains.

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 In Psalm 19, it says,

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 The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims His handiwork.

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 Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge.

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 And then in one of my favorite passages in the Bible, which I will not read because it is rather long, but when God answers Job.

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 So basically, Job is kind of, has lost everything, and he doesn't know why, and his friends are not being very helpful.

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 And God, finally, after 37 chapters, God answers Job.

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 And I'll start, I'll read the beginning.

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 And he starts with,

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 Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

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 Tell me if you have understanding.

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 Who determines its measurements? Surely you know.

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 Who stretched the line about it?

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 On what were its bases sunk?

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 Or who laid the cornerstones?

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 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

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 Or who shut in the sea with doors that burst from the womb?

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 And when I made the clouds its garment, and thick darkness its swaddling band, and prescribed its limits for it, and set bars and door.

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 And said, Thus far you shall come, and no farther, and here your proud ways stay.

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 And he just goes on to describe everything from the depths of hell to, well, the depths of the deep darkness he talks about,

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 to the rain, to storehouses of snow, to the birth of...

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 A young animal, who I currently do not...

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 Not in goats?

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 Yeah.

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 And just, I think, this beautiful picture of God just saying,

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 I am the Lord of creation, and this is part of where my glory is.

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 And I think part of how we can see his glory.

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 And then in a shorter passage in Job 12, when he's...

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 Basically, his friends are like,

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 It's your fault that all these bad things have happened to him.

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 Job answers, and this is Job 12, 7...

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 Sorry, guys, we're going to be jumping around a lot.

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 Because I thought about doing one passage on God's glory, and there were just too many.

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 So in Job 12, 7 through 10, he says,

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 So just this idea that nature in itself is a proclamation of the glory.

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 And then I think the second way in which we see God's glory is,

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 And what Serena said, in humans or in mankind.

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 And I think if we turn to Genesis 1...

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 Verse 27 says,

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 So God created man in his own image.

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 In the image of God, he created them.

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 Male and female, he created them.

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 And I think we see in...

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 Yeah, just this...

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 That by being created...

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 In the image of God, we too share in his glory and to proclaim his glory.

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 So whether that's in art or music or technology that's created or science,

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 I think we can see in humans, I think we can see in humans.

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 I think we can see the glory of God in humankind, whether they believe in God or not.

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 I think the...

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 Yeah.

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 Yeah.

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 God has given us the unique ability to reflect his glory while we are made in his image.

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 And then finally, I think, but more than God's glory in creation or in us,

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 which I think are two places where we can very easily see God's glory,

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 I think God's glory is most visible in Jesus, his son.

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 God has given us the truth in God.

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 Which I think turns our idea of what majesty and splendor and power,

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 though I think those things are true in the Rocky Mountains

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 and are true in beautiful pieces of art and are true in kings bowing down before the Lord

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 as we're told that they will be.

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 I think it turns our idea of glory upside down because we are not...

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 Because the Lord is not most glorified by these beautiful parts of creation

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 or by, yeah, what humans have made either in his name or not.

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 But his glory is most seen in the humble and self-sacrificing life and death

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 and resurrection of Jesus, which I think is really incredible when you think about it.

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 Because when I think about power and majesty and glory,

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 that's not what comes to mind.

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 But I think, yeah, to see that in Jesus.

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 So in John 1.14...

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 And these are just some verses about the glory of God being seen in Jesus.

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 John 1.14 says,

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 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we see his glory.

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 Glory as the only Son of God, full of grace and truth.

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 So we see Jesus' grace and truth being part of God's glory.

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 And then in Hebrews 1.3...

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 And this is talking about Jesus.

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 Jesus.

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 Jesus.

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 I'll start in two.

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 But in the last day, he has spoken to us by his Son,

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 whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom he created the world.

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 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature,

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 and he upholds the universe by the word of his power.

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 After making for the purification of sins,

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 he sat down at the right hand of the majesty on high,

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 having become as much superior to the angels as the name he inherited,

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 is much more excellent than theirs.

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 Yeah.

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 So I think we see there that, yeah,

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 Jesus is not only glorified in his life on earth,

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 in the glory of God on his life,

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 but also after his resurrection,

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 he is glorified more than the angels,

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 and is seated at the right hand of God.

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 So I think this begs the question,

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 how do we respond,

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 or what does this mean for us?

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 And that is an actual question.

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 So how do we respond,

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 or what does this mean for us?

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 I find it a little abstract,

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 to try, you know,

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 to visualize God's glory.

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 You know,

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 so because we do,

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 I find we do have to visualize something.

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 Yeah.

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 And what do I think about?

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 You know,

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 I think I try and imagine Jesus coming in the clouds,

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 and,

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 you know,

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 on the mountaintop,

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 in the burning bush,

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 but,

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 you know,

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 it's difficult for me.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Yeah.

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 Well,

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 I think that's very true.

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 I really like what you said about

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 Jesus inverting our idea of majesty and splendor.

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 And I think,

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 ultimately,

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 that expression is fullest in the cross.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Um,

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 and then that's very sobering,

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 then,

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 that Jesus calls us to take up his life.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Like,

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 the way his way of life,

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 leading to,

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 deeper humility,

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 which can involve

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 humiliation,

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 suffering,

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 Mm-hmm.

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 on behalf of others.

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 But it's not like,

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 it's not without joy,

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 because it is on behalf of it.

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 It's not,

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 it's not futile.

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 Right?

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 Suffering is in the world,

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 whether we like it or not.

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 We may try to deny it,

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 we may try to

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 spend money to avoid it,

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 but,

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 um,

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 I don't know.

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 It gives us

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 a direction and a purpose for,

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 we,

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 in,

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 in Jesus,

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 it,

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 the,

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 the plan of God for

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 the suffering of the world

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 is revealed.

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 Um,

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 we don't,

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 we don't know why God allows

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 the suffering exactly,

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 but,

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 Jesus knows the full extent of it,

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 more than,

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 pretty much any of us

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 will ever know.

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 Um,

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 so,

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 so,

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 the challenge,

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 how,

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 how do we respond is,

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 uh,

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 it's challenging,

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 because,

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 it's a high call.

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 Um,

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 but,

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 um,

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 it's not our strength

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 that's going to accomplish it anyway,

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 so,

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 that's encouraging.

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 He'll be,

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 he'll be with us.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 So,

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 Josh,

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 I like that you used the word humility,

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 because that was actually the first word

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 that came to my mind,

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 but I was thinking more

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 in terms of,

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 like,

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 us to God,

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 rather than us to others,

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 um,

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 but it kind of,

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 like,

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 God's glory puts us in our place,

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 and,

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 like,

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 that's what God was doing with Job,

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 right,

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 kind of putting Job in his place.

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 Yeah.

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 So,

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 we need to be put in our place sometimes.

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 Um,

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 it's the best place to be.

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 Well,

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 I was thinking that,

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 too,

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 that,

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 the humility was the first thing

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 that came to mind,

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 but then the second thing was hope,

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 because the,

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 because I think that what we find

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 is that when we do put ourself

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 in that right relationship,

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 we are caught up in his glory,

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 right?

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 And,

00:17:51.379 --> 00:17:52.000
 and that's where,

00:17:52.399 --> 00:17:52.599
 and,

00:17:52.639 --> 00:17:53.019
 and the,

00:17:53.019 --> 00:17:54.159
 the rub,

00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:54.500
 right,

00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:55.519
 the pride of life

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 is that we find,

00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:59.000
 we seek to find glory apart from God,

00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:01.579
 but when we find glory in God,

00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:03.000
 we,

00:18:03.259 --> 00:18:03.919
 you know,

00:18:04.299 --> 00:18:06.500
 and we who are beholding his face,

00:18:06.619 --> 00:18:06.759
 sorry,

00:18:06.879 --> 00:18:07.720
 I'm still a Bible,

00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:07.960
 right?

00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:08.119
 No,

00:18:08.259 --> 00:18:08.480
 yeah.

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 We beholding his face

00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:10.460
 are,

00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:12.399
 are being transformed from one glory

00:18:12.399 --> 00:18:13.019
 to the net,

00:18:13.099 --> 00:18:13.299
 right?

00:18:13.379 --> 00:18:13.519
 That,

00:18:13.700 --> 00:18:14.440
 that there is,

00:18:14.619 --> 00:18:14.859
 like,

00:18:14.899 --> 00:18:16.879
 this is part of what it means for us

00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:17.320
 is to,

00:18:18.060 --> 00:18:18.280
 when,

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 and so there is incredible humility,

00:18:21.300 --> 00:18:21.580
 right?

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 Forsaking all of our human endeavors

00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:25.580
 to seek glory on our own,

00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:27.740
 and yet we find ourselves then

00:18:27.740 --> 00:18:28.920
 caught up in his glory,

00:18:29.080 --> 00:18:29.420
 which is,

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 which is unbelievable,

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 and we have all these,

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 you know,

00:18:33.280 --> 00:18:34.120
 these tastes of it,

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 and things like nature and creation,

00:18:35.620 --> 00:18:36.060
 and,

00:18:36.060 --> 00:18:36.400
 and,

00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:37.220
 you know,

00:18:37.340 --> 00:18:38.300
 music and art,

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 and,

00:18:38.580 --> 00:18:38.940
 you know,

00:18:39.040 --> 00:18:39.320
 Tolkien,

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 and,

00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:39.980
 you know,

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 but,

00:18:44.120 --> 00:18:44.740
 and,

00:18:44.800 --> 00:18:45.060
 and,

00:18:45.060 --> 00:18:45.800
 and salvation,

00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:47.559
 and beautiful moments of redemption,

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 and beautiful moments of reconciliation,

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 and,

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 and all these are just these little,

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 like,

00:18:53.059 --> 00:18:54.200
 little whispers of,

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 of glory that we haven't seen fully,

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 so.

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 I think,

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 to a point of view,

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 when I think of the glory of Jesus,

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 I,

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 I often imagine a correlation.

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 I actually really think about,

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 it's a couple of scenes,

00:19:11.220 --> 00:19:15.079
 in the Lord of the Rings,

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 when Aragon becomes king,

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 like,

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 at the very,

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 very end,

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 like,

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 these guys had known him as,

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 this was just their friend,

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 but this guy,

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 ultimately,

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 was the king of Gondor,

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 and I,

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 like,

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 you know,

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 I think of it when,

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 we,

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 when Jesus' glory is fully revealed,

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 like,

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 we will see the one,

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 who,

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 people,

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 like,

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 I,

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 Pastor Man and I were talking about it last week,

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 like,

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 they will come in,

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 like,

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 when his disciples see him in his full glory,

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 like,

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 when they are welcome,

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 like,

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 you know,

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 when everyone's banged out,

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 Jesus is going to be like,

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 they're going to be like,

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 can you believe it,

00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:47.500
 right?

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 And people,

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 it's like,

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 there is a sense of,

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 there is that sense.

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 I think of the song,

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 like,

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 you know,

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 crowning man,

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 like,

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 I really think that ultimately,

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 we'll be like,

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 we are all invited,

00:19:58.779 --> 00:19:59.460
 to the party,

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 when Jesus is crowned,

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 king of the universe.

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 And like,

00:20:03.579 --> 00:20:05.120
 the pomp and majesty,

00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:05.980
 of correlation,

00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:06.759
 like,

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 is that day,

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 where it's like,

00:20:09.059 --> 00:20:09.339
 you know,

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 not just human beings,

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 but like,

00:20:11.019 --> 00:20:11.199
 you know,

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 the stones,

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 and the trees,

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 and singing.

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 And there is a sense of,

00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:18.079
 I guess that's how I sort of,

00:20:18.099 --> 00:20:19.139
 imagine the glory,

00:20:19.259 --> 00:20:19.379
 like,

00:20:19.439 --> 00:20:19.699
 ultimately,

00:20:19.779 --> 00:20:20.459
 and then it's like,

00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:22.279
 in what way can we,

00:20:22.959 --> 00:20:25.259
 respond to Jesus now,

00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:27.539
 in anticipation of that,

00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:28.019
 like,

00:20:28.019 --> 00:20:29.759
 seeing who he is,

00:20:29.879 --> 00:20:30.179
 truly,

00:20:30.439 --> 00:20:32.359
 to pass the last point,

00:20:32.439 --> 00:20:33.220
 in the sermon today,

00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:33.559
 like,

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 how do we,

00:20:34.819 --> 00:20:36.359
 knowing who he's going to be,

00:20:36.959 --> 00:20:37.779
 worship him today?

00:20:37.879 --> 00:20:38.439
 So some days,

00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:38.920
 it's been,

00:20:39.100 --> 00:20:40.920
 overwhelmed,

00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:41.940
 today,

00:20:42.220 --> 00:20:42.660
 by that,

00:20:42.740 --> 00:20:43.660
 ultimate glory,

00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:43.960
 like,

00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:44.799
 when everyone's going to,

00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:45.460
 bow down,

00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:46.519
 we would have already,

00:20:46.660 --> 00:20:47.200
 done so,

00:20:47.320 --> 00:20:48.779
 or already had the privilege,

00:20:49.180 --> 00:20:50.400
 of doing so today,

00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:52.120
 on that day.

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 And I think on that day,

00:20:53.620 --> 00:20:53.799
 like,

00:20:54.080 --> 00:20:54.259
 you know,

00:20:54.320 --> 00:20:55.660
 you'll be those in the crowd,

00:20:55.779 --> 00:20:57.100
 who can truly say,

00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:58.779
 I always knew he was great.

00:21:00.220 --> 00:21:00.779
 You know,

00:21:00.820 --> 00:21:01.519
 not those who,

00:21:01.700 --> 00:21:02.039
 I know,

00:21:02.100 --> 00:21:02.220
 like,

00:21:02.259 --> 00:21:02.559
 at the end,

00:21:02.620 --> 00:21:02.720
 like,

00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:03.420
 we always knew,

00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:04.759
 we were most likely to succeed.

00:21:05.080 --> 00:21:05.259
 Like,

00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:06.559
 we knew,

00:21:06.820 --> 00:21:08.400
 and we got the opportunity,

00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:09.360
 to worship him,

00:21:09.779 --> 00:21:10.340
 willingly,

00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:11.539
 and not by first.

00:21:11.620 --> 00:21:11.820
 So,

00:21:12.080 --> 00:21:12.900
 I think of it,

00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:15.200
 but I think the second point,

00:21:15.320 --> 00:21:16.120
 you mentioned,

00:21:16.259 --> 00:21:17.460
 I was reflecting on,

00:21:17.580 --> 00:21:17.680
 is,

00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:20.480
 while I agree that his,

00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.340
 his glory,

00:21:22.600 --> 00:21:23.180
 on earth,

00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:24.059
 was on the cross,

00:21:24.539 --> 00:21:24.920
 I don't,

00:21:25.100 --> 00:21:25.720
 I wonder,

00:21:25.860 --> 00:21:26.019
 like,

00:21:26.340 --> 00:21:27.279
 is that his ultimate,

00:21:27.980 --> 00:21:29.259
 how do we think of that,

00:21:29.420 --> 00:21:30.039
 in present,

00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:31.100
 versus ultimate glory?

00:21:31.099 --> 00:21:31.459
 because,

00:21:31.579 --> 00:21:32.599
 even Jesus,

00:21:32.819 --> 00:21:33.719
 in Hebrews 12,

00:21:33.879 --> 00:21:34.559
 was looked,

00:21:34.819 --> 00:21:35.799
 through the cross,

00:21:35.859 --> 00:21:36.619
 to something else.

00:21:37.419 --> 00:21:37.779
 And so,

00:21:37.899 --> 00:21:38.119
 like,

00:21:39.959 --> 00:21:40.819
 while it is true,

00:21:40.939 --> 00:21:41.119
 like,

00:21:41.179 --> 00:21:41.839
 how do we,

00:21:42.019 --> 00:21:43.199
 hold that tension,

00:21:43.199 --> 00:21:44.719
 around him being exalted?

00:21:44.899 --> 00:21:45.039
 Again,

00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:45.879
 that is not,

00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:47.099
 ultimate,

00:21:47.379 --> 00:21:48.619
 that's not the ultimate,

00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:49.879
 view.

00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:52.380
 And so,

00:21:52.560 --> 00:21:52.720
 maybe,

00:21:52.840 --> 00:21:53.420
 is it that,

00:21:54.560 --> 00:21:54.840
 the,

00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:56.640
 this is the engineering,

00:21:56.980 --> 00:21:57.240
 I don't know,

00:21:57.300 --> 00:21:58.040
 the projection,

00:21:58.220 --> 00:21:58.840
 of his glory,

00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:00.440
 in the,

00:22:00.500 --> 00:22:02.380
 in the earth today,

00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:03.080
 is,

00:22:03.520 --> 00:22:04.080
 the suffering,

00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:04.900
 but it's,

00:22:05.460 --> 00:22:06.680
 it's only a projection,

00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:07.200
 and not,

00:22:08.340 --> 00:22:09.120
 the real.

00:22:09.620 --> 00:22:10.000
 I say,

00:22:10.100 --> 00:22:11.320
 that maybe the last point,

00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:11.800
 would be,

00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:13.100
 Tom Schmidt,

00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:13.480
 preaching,

00:22:14.120 --> 00:22:15.160
 awesome sermon,

00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:15.700
 I mean,

00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:16.720
 two years ago,

00:22:16.900 --> 00:22:17.060
 like,

00:22:17.280 --> 00:22:17.560
 about,

00:22:18.020 --> 00:22:18.540
 the glory,

00:22:18.760 --> 00:22:19.260
 of Jesus,

00:22:19.259 --> 00:22:20.440
 glory,

00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:21.240
 and suffering,

00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:21.599
 and like,

00:22:21.619 --> 00:22:22.220
 the fact that,

00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:24.180
 even if he's glorified self,

00:22:24.460 --> 00:22:25.400
 Jesus still bears,

00:22:25.500 --> 00:22:26.420
 the wounds of the cross.

00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:27.519
 And so,

00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:30.240
 I'm just,

00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:30.720
 like,

00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:31.299
 I don't know,

00:22:31.379 --> 00:22:31.879
 how do we,

00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:32.599
 thank you,

00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:33.519
 I can't pass,

00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.700
 how do we hold these,

00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:37.440
 I mean,

00:22:37.500 --> 00:22:37.700
 maybe,

00:22:37.859 --> 00:22:38.019
 sorry,

00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:38.500
 Carolyn,

00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:39.160
 no,

00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:39.579
 sorry,

00:22:39.819 --> 00:22:40.079
 Carolyn,

00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:42.099
 that you were here,

00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:42.879
 Pastor Matt,

00:22:43.460 --> 00:22:44.000
 but like,

00:22:44.859 --> 00:22:45.839
 I don't know how,

00:22:46.539 --> 00:22:48.299
 in light of how you discussed it,

00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:48.440
 like,

00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:50.220
 how do we hold these two things in tension?

00:22:51.940 --> 00:22:53.500
 I think that's,

00:22:54.120 --> 00:22:54.580
 the,

00:22:54.580 --> 00:22:55.920
 the already,

00:22:56.100 --> 00:22:56.980
 but not yet,

00:22:57.380 --> 00:23:00.120
 is the tension that all Christians live in,

00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:00.400
 right,

00:23:00.500 --> 00:23:00.880
 like,

00:23:01.600 --> 00:23:03.900
 and I think in the similar ways,

00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.900
 he has already been glorified,

00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:09.500
 right,

00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:09.920
 like,

00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:10.420
 he is,

00:23:10.940 --> 00:23:11.080
 we,

00:23:11.180 --> 00:23:11.700
 as we read,

00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:14.480
 he is sitting on the right hand of the son,

00:23:14.860 --> 00:23:16.279
 of the father,

00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:18.299
 sitting on the right hand of the father,

00:23:18.899 --> 00:23:19.920
 he is the son,

00:23:20.339 --> 00:23:21.639
 but,

00:23:22.299 --> 00:23:23.119
 and that's already,

00:23:23.299 --> 00:23:24.579
 it's come to fruition,

00:23:24.740 --> 00:23:25.079
 that is,

00:23:25.139 --> 00:23:25.279
 like,

00:23:25.379 --> 00:23:25.720
 true,

00:23:25.940 --> 00:23:28.220
 and that his glory is abounding,

00:23:28.220 --> 00:23:29.839
 and yet,

00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.319
 we live in a world,

00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:33.600
 where there is suffering,

00:23:33.940 --> 00:23:34.579
 and we are,

00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:38.640
 and I think that's where his example,

00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:40.779
 of how to walk through suffering,

00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:42.299
 and the glory,

00:23:42.819 --> 00:23:43.700
 and humility,

00:23:43.940 --> 00:23:45.120
 and self-sacrifice,

00:23:45.740 --> 00:23:48.299
 acts as an example,

00:23:48.980 --> 00:23:49.460
 because,

00:23:49.460 --> 00:23:51.819
 one day,

00:23:51.940 --> 00:23:52.420
 we too,

00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:53.779
 will be glorified,

00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:54.360
 right,

00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:55.079
 with,

00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:56.680
 and it talks about,

00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:57.960
 in Revelation,

00:23:58.799 --> 00:23:59.340
 I believe,

00:23:59.700 --> 00:23:59.920
 like,

00:24:00.100 --> 00:24:00.579
 the,

00:24:00.579 --> 00:24:03.380
 robes of white,

00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:03.819
 right,

00:24:03.980 --> 00:24:05.600
 and just the glorification,

00:24:05.600 --> 00:24:06.840
 of God's people,

00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:08.980
 and every tongue,

00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:09.940
 and every nation,

00:24:10.100 --> 00:24:10.779
 and every tribe,

00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:11.640
 coming together,

00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:12.440
 and just,

00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:13.900
 worshiping the Lord,

00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:14.980
 and I think,

00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:15.700
 that,

00:24:15.700 --> 00:24:17.480
 as we sit,

00:24:17.819 --> 00:24:18.120
 in the,

00:24:19.840 --> 00:24:20.620
 that's all to say,

00:24:20.860 --> 00:24:22.039
 that is the question,

00:24:22.620 --> 00:24:24.000
 of the Christian life,

00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.420
 is how do we hold,

00:24:26.819 --> 00:24:27.500
 the glory,

00:24:27.819 --> 00:24:28.799
 and the suffering,

00:24:29.299 --> 00:24:29.680
 together,

00:24:30.140 --> 00:24:32.420
 and I think that's true,

00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:33.880
 when we think about Christ,

00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:34.799
 I think that's true,

00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:35.600
 when we think about,

00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:36.519
 our own lives,

00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:38.640
 yeah,

00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:40.720
 if anyone has anything else,

00:24:40.980 --> 00:24:42.299
 please add,

00:24:43.140 --> 00:24:44.180
 can I jump in,

00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:44.519
 yeah,

00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:45.039
 so,

00:24:45.500 --> 00:24:46.220
 so one of the reasons,

00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:46.639
 why I think,

00:24:46.859 --> 00:24:48.379
 people often say,

00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:49.779
 the cross is,

00:24:50.339 --> 00:24:51.599
 because John,

00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:52.359
 in John 12,

00:24:53.139 --> 00:24:55.359
 and if you know,

00:24:55.420 --> 00:24:56.319
 the structure of John,

00:24:56.500 --> 00:24:57.220
 there's all these things,

00:24:57.299 --> 00:24:57.960
 in the first half,

00:24:58.039 --> 00:24:58.359
 that say,

00:24:58.539 --> 00:24:59.539
 my time has not yet come,

00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:00.319
 my time is not here,

00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:00.940
 that's what he says,

00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:01.639
 to Mary Magdalene,

00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:02.660
 why are you asking this,

00:25:02.700 --> 00:25:02.839
 right,

00:25:03.339 --> 00:25:03.799
 so he,

00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:05.200
 in John 12,

00:25:05.259 --> 00:25:05.559
 he says,

00:25:05.639 --> 00:25:06.539
 the hour has come,

00:25:06.859 --> 00:25:07.980
 for the son of man,

00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:08.740
 to be glorified,

00:25:09.180 --> 00:25:10.019
 so,

00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:11.319
 the cross,

00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:12.200
 the cross is there,

00:25:12.379 --> 00:25:12.599
 but,

00:25:12.700 --> 00:25:13.039
 I think,

00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:14.500
 the cross,

00:25:14.500 --> 00:25:15.359
 and the resurrection,

00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:17.180
 are not actually,

00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:18.519
 distinct events,

00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:19.819
 they are in some ways,

00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:20.700
 but they're actually,

00:25:21.140 --> 00:25:22.839
 a unified work of Christ,

00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:23.640
 and I think,

00:25:23.700 --> 00:25:24.920
 that's where we get both,

00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:27.799
 because the resurrected Christ,

00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:29.039
 is the crucified Christ,

00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:30.299
 and therefore,

00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:31.980
 we have both of those,

00:25:33.420 --> 00:25:34.880
 the victorious Christ,

00:25:35.019 --> 00:25:36.119
 is the suffering Christ,

00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:36.819
 and,

00:25:37.019 --> 00:25:37.660
 and so,

00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:37.980
 it,

00:25:37.980 --> 00:25:38.279
 it,

00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:39.220
 it's actually,

00:25:39.220 --> 00:25:40.120
 of a whole,

00:25:40.259 --> 00:25:40.920
 of a piece,

00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:41.920
 of his glory,

00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:43.079
 and,

00:25:43.579 --> 00:25:44.360
 we as,

00:25:44.860 --> 00:25:46.039
 in our particular strain,

00:25:46.120 --> 00:25:47.539
 of evangelical Protestantism,

00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:48.259
 tend to focus,

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:49.759
 on the substitutionary death,

00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:50.519
 and,

00:25:50.600 --> 00:25:52.460
 and the atoning sacrifice,

00:25:52.940 --> 00:25:54.660
 and,

00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:54.680
 and,

00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:55.380
 we don't necessarily,

00:25:55.380 --> 00:25:55.960
 do as well,

00:25:56.019 --> 00:25:56.759
 with the resurrection,

00:25:57.140 --> 00:25:57.759
 to be honest,

00:25:57.840 --> 00:25:58.079
 right,

00:25:58.180 --> 00:25:58.920
 and you might go,

00:25:58.980 --> 00:25:59.900
 to other churches,

00:25:59.900 --> 00:26:00.279
 where,

00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:01.420
 they're much better,

00:26:01.500 --> 00:26:02.600
 at the resurrection part,

00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:03.860
 maybe not as clear,

00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.200
 on the atoning death part,

00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:07.200
 but ultimately,

00:26:07.380 --> 00:26:07.559
 like,

00:26:07.600 --> 00:26:08.480
 we hold them together,

00:26:08.819 --> 00:26:09.079
 and so,

00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:09.400
 I think,

00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:09.720
 when it's,

00:26:09.779 --> 00:26:10.279
 now that the,

00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:10.900
 you know,

00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:11.539
 when Jesus says,

00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:12.259
 now it's the son,

00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:13.039
 man to be glorified,

00:26:13.120 --> 00:26:14.000
 he's not simply,

00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.059
 thinking about Friday,

00:26:15.460 --> 00:26:16.500
 he's thinking about Sunday,

00:26:16.600 --> 00:26:16.940
 as well.

00:26:16.940 --> 00:26:19.380
 And I think,

00:26:19.820 --> 00:26:20.940
 I agree personally,

00:26:21.180 --> 00:26:21.559
 I think,

00:26:22.620 --> 00:26:25.140
 I think,

00:26:25.320 --> 00:26:25.660
 the,

00:26:26.059 --> 00:26:26.779
 probably the work,

00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:28.039
 is to see through it,

00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:29.019
 to it,

00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:29.860
 not,

00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:31.880
 you can't see the glory,

00:26:32.059 --> 00:26:32.940
 without seeing it,

00:26:33.019 --> 00:26:33.660
 through the cross,

00:26:33.860 --> 00:26:34.720
 but the cross,

00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:35.840
 is not the end,

00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:36.420
 and I think,

00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:36.779
 it's like,

00:26:36.840 --> 00:26:37.460
 that's your intention,

00:26:37.620 --> 00:26:38.820
 now we hold together,

00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:40.320
 because otherwise,

00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:41.019
 I think,

00:26:42.340 --> 00:26:42.779
 yeah,

00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:44.779
 I think that is it,

00:26:44.820 --> 00:26:45.420
 and to your point,

00:26:45.539 --> 00:26:45.660
 like,

00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:46.320
 and actually,

00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:46.859
 it's probably,

00:26:47.159 --> 00:26:48.000
 I was reflecting,

00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:49.099
 as you were speaking too,

00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:49.720
 that like,

00:26:51.019 --> 00:26:52.240
 it's also important,

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.480
 because in this world,

00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:54.299
 he's saying that,

00:26:54.379 --> 00:26:55.619
 but those who are my disciples,

00:26:56.059 --> 00:26:57.119
 with your glory,

00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:57.859
 it's going to be,

00:26:57.939 --> 00:26:58.619
 in that same,

00:26:59.179 --> 00:26:59.639
 through,

00:27:00.220 --> 00:27:00.759
 this,

00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.000
 into glory,

00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:03.720
 as opposed,

00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:05.200
 there's no way around it,

00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:06.119
 into glory,

00:27:06.419 --> 00:27:06.639
 right,

00:27:06.980 --> 00:27:08.079
 but I think,

00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:08.500
 yeah,

00:27:08.579 --> 00:27:09.399
 it's not the end,

00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:10.299
 but it's the,

00:27:10.859 --> 00:27:11.579
 it's through it,

00:27:11.619 --> 00:27:12.779
 that we see the other side.

00:27:13.619 --> 00:27:14.240
 I know,

00:27:14.299 --> 00:27:15.139
 I'm probably stealing this,

00:27:15.139 --> 00:27:16.259
 from some great author,

00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:16.679
 but I,

00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:17.480
 I think,

00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:18.099
 I remember,

00:27:18.299 --> 00:27:20.500
 the analogy of like,

00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:20.939
 viewing,

00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:22.619
 like you're in a dark room,

00:27:22.919 --> 00:27:23.859
 but the next room,

00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:24.439
 there's a party,

00:27:24.539 --> 00:27:25.179
 with bright lights,

00:27:25.339 --> 00:27:26.419
 and you can only see it,

00:27:26.419 --> 00:27:27.019
 through a keyhole,

00:27:27.740 --> 00:27:27.960
 right,

00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:28.279
 the,

00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:29.240
 the cross,

00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:29.879
 and,

00:27:29.879 --> 00:27:31.059
 and Jesus's,

00:27:31.059 --> 00:27:32.659
 way of life,

00:27:32.919 --> 00:27:34.859
 down into the valley,

00:27:34.859 --> 00:27:35.419
 of death,

00:27:36.419 --> 00:27:37.099
 to get,

00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:37.759
 to then,

00:27:37.879 --> 00:27:39.000
 go back into glory,

00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:39.220
 that,

00:27:39.339 --> 00:27:40.019
 that's the only way,

00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:40.559
 like you said,

00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:41.460
 there's no way around it,

00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:41.960
 and,

00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:44.019
 camels,

00:27:44.120 --> 00:27:44.920
 sometimes have to be,

00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:45.880
 put through,

00:27:46.840 --> 00:27:47.539
 the eyes of needles,

00:27:47.819 --> 00:27:48.019
 so,

00:27:48.620 --> 00:27:49.039
 um,

00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:49.960
 yeah,

00:27:50.140 --> 00:27:50.680
 our faith,

00:27:51.340 --> 00:27:53.440
 demands us,

00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:53.920
 um,

00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:55.160
 trust God,

00:27:55.220 --> 00:27:55.740
 for the impossible,

00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:56.259
 to,

00:27:58.519 --> 00:27:58.720
 to,

00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:00.140
 by which I mean,

00:28:01.340 --> 00:28:02.660
 seeing,

00:28:02.860 --> 00:28:03.480
 God's glory,

00:28:03.600 --> 00:28:04.240
 for what it is,

00:28:04.460 --> 00:28:04.799
 not,

00:28:05.019 --> 00:28:05.660
 for what the world,

00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:06.259
 says it is,

00:28:06.259 --> 00:28:13.619
 just to add on,

00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:14.480
 to a little bit of that,

00:28:14.539 --> 00:28:15.619
 I'm just amazed,

00:28:15.740 --> 00:28:16.500
 by how,

00:28:17.339 --> 00:28:17.879
 the glory,

00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:19.200
 described in the New Testament,

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:20.379
 and the Old Testament,

00:28:20.619 --> 00:28:21.259
 is so,

00:28:21.859 --> 00:28:22.200
 different,

00:28:22.339 --> 00:28:22.519
 like,

00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:23.339
 different,

00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:23.920
 in,

00:28:24.379 --> 00:28:24.559
 yeah,

00:28:24.619 --> 00:28:25.119
 different ways,

00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:26.119
 like glory,

00:28:26.339 --> 00:28:27.099
 in the Old Testament,

00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:28.720
 when God's glory is displayed,

00:28:28.879 --> 00:28:29.660
 people die,

00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:31.039
 and people tremble,

00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:32.099
 and it's about fear,

00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:32.379
 and,

00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:32.740
 you know,

00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:33.119
 like,

00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:33.920
 like,

00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:34.900
 we can't stand,

00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:35.720
 God's glory,

00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:37.160
 and I think,

00:28:37.380 --> 00:28:37.700
 um,

00:28:38.660 --> 00:28:38.920
 yeah,

00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:39.400
 but then,

00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:40.720
 just the fact that,

00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:42.779
 that glory,

00:28:43.539 --> 00:28:44.019
 was,

00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:45.420
 you know,

00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.400
 came down to earth,

00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:48.360
 and,

00:28:48.579 --> 00:28:49.180
 to death,

00:28:49.940 --> 00:28:50.220
 um,

00:28:50.220 --> 00:28:51.220
 on behalf of us,

00:28:51.299 --> 00:28:52.019
 I think just that,

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:52.960
 um,

00:28:53.600 --> 00:28:54.799
 it's really easy to forget,

00:28:55.019 --> 00:28:55.360
 um,

00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:56.400
 just that wonder,

00:28:56.940 --> 00:28:58.079
 what that really means,

00:28:58.420 --> 00:28:59.420
 and the weight of it,

00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:00.160
 and,

00:29:00.360 --> 00:29:01.380
 I think in that sense,

00:29:01.980 --> 00:29:03.700
 cross also means,

00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:04.779
 God's glory,

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:05.500
 um,

00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:06.259
 you know,

00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:07.440
 but,

00:29:07.600 --> 00:29:08.740
 not a glory that will,

00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:10.559
 that we die,

00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:11.240
 but,

00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:12.759
 the glory of God,

00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:14.279
 that will die for us,

00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:14.920
 you know,

00:29:15.460 --> 00:29:17.180
 I don't know,

00:29:17.360 --> 00:29:17.920
 I think,

00:29:18.019 --> 00:29:19.220
 I was just tied to a little bit,

00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:19.960
 you know,

00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:20.640
 grace,

00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:22.579
 God's glory,

00:29:22.579 --> 00:29:23.899
 I,

00:29:23.899 --> 00:29:25.099
 I think I heard something,

00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:26.460
 that I wanted to just share,

00:29:26.579 --> 00:29:26.759
 like,

00:29:27.419 --> 00:29:27.939
 in my room,

00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:28.319
 like,

00:29:29.339 --> 00:29:30.599
 there is also a uniqueness,

00:29:31.099 --> 00:29:31.960
 in the cross,

00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:32.839
 in God's glory,

00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:33.639
 that I think,

00:29:33.879 --> 00:29:34.599
 the same way,

00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:35.799
 in the Old Testament,

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:36.759
 no one could share,

00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:37.460
 in God's glory,

00:29:37.699 --> 00:29:38.919
 there is also a uniqueness,

00:29:38.919 --> 00:29:40.019
 in the cross,

00:29:40.179 --> 00:29:40.679
 and in Jesus,

00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:42.200
 that is a glory,

00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:43.259
 that God himself,

00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:44.100
 only has,

00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:44.380
 and,

00:29:45.019 --> 00:29:45.539
 while they are,

00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.140
 analogues to us,

00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:49.400
 like,

00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:50.279
 with many things,

00:29:50.340 --> 00:29:51.060
 in God's attributes,

00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:52.740
 while they are some analogues,

00:29:52.820 --> 00:29:53.799
 to our,

00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:55.740
 own attributes,

00:29:55.820 --> 00:29:56.220
 as well,

00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:57.940
 they are some unique,

00:29:58.400 --> 00:29:59.299
 non-perial,

00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:00.019
 and I think that,

00:30:00.080 --> 00:30:01.279
 that also puts the cross,

00:30:01.360 --> 00:30:01.779
 in itself,

00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:02.560
 in a unique,

00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:04.580
 in a unique place,

00:30:04.579 --> 00:30:05.000
 all,

00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:06.279
 all by itself,

00:30:06.379 --> 00:30:06.740
 in the way,

00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:07.019
 so.

00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:19.019
 Yeah,

00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:20.059
 so,

00:30:20.699 --> 00:30:22.279
 you basically,

00:30:22.639 --> 00:30:23.679
 answered the question,

00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.359
 with my answer,

00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:25.740
 so.

00:30:28.019 --> 00:30:28.619
 But,

00:30:29.059 --> 00:30:29.399
 yeah,

00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:30.339
 I think as,

00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.679
 Christ followers,

00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:33.659
 we are given,

00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:35.279
 a unique responsibility,

00:30:35.779 --> 00:30:36.580
 a unique,

00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.540
 responsibility,

00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:39.500
 to,

00:30:39.940 --> 00:30:42.200
 both glorify God,

00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:43.700
 and show God's glory,

00:30:44.120 --> 00:30:48.840
 in Philippians,

00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:49.960
 1,

00:30:50.040 --> 00:30:50.840
 9 through 11,

00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:51.480
 it says,

00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:53.220
 and this is my prayer,

00:30:53.380 --> 00:30:54.019
 that your love,

00:30:54.180 --> 00:30:54.759
 may abound,

00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:55.640
 more and more,

00:30:55.779 --> 00:30:56.519
 with the knowledge,

00:30:56.779 --> 00:30:57.720
 with all knowledge,

00:30:57.860 --> 00:30:59.240
 and all discernment,

00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:00.660
 so that you may,

00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.460
 approve what is excellent,

00:31:02.460 --> 00:31:03.480
 and be so,

00:31:03.600 --> 00:31:04.920
 be pure and blameless,

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:06.000
 for the day of Christ,

00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:07.019
 filled with the fruit,

00:31:07.059 --> 00:31:07.660
 of righteousness,

00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:08.519
 that comes,

00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:10.400
 through Jesus Christ,

00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:11.299
 to the glory,

00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.819
 and praise of God,

00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:13.920
 and I think,

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:14.799
 there is something,

00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:16.100
 that we are being,

00:31:18.019 --> 00:31:18.400
 yeah,

00:31:19.180 --> 00:31:19.620
 that,

00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:20.460
 um,

00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.640
 we most reflect,

00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:24.460
 God's glory,

00:31:24.460 --> 00:31:25.779
 when we are Christ-like,

00:31:26.120 --> 00:31:26.960
 in our own,

00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:28.579
 in our,

00:31:28.740 --> 00:31:29.740
 in our manner,

00:31:29.740 --> 00:31:30.920
 and specifically,

00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:32.099
 in our love,

00:31:32.740 --> 00:31:33.519
 um,

00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:34.799
 and,

00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.920
 yeah,

00:31:38.180 --> 00:31:38.759
 I think,

00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:39.759
 as,

00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.779
 remind me of your name,

00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:47.319
 Susie,

00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:48.180
 Susie,

00:31:48.380 --> 00:31:50.039
 as Susie was saying,

00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:50.900
 this like,

00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:52.079
 difference between,

00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:53.640
 the Old Testament,

00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.539
 and the New Testament glory,

00:31:55.539 --> 00:31:56.680
 um,

00:31:57.259 --> 00:31:57.559
 but,

00:31:57.659 --> 00:31:58.079
 I think,

00:31:58.079 --> 00:31:58.899
 there is still,

00:31:59.059 --> 00:31:59.539
 that like,

00:31:59.659 --> 00:32:00.019
 awe,

00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.859
 I was reflecting on,

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:02.960
 as I was preparing,

00:32:03.579 --> 00:32:03.980
 how,

00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:04.980
 the like,

00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:06.059
 first reaction,

00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:07.720
 throughout the Bible,

00:32:07.879 --> 00:32:08.920
 both in the Old Testament,

00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:09.940
 and the New Testament,

00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:10.920
 when people see,

00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:11.859
 God's glory,

00:32:12.460 --> 00:32:12.779
 um,

00:32:12.899 --> 00:32:14.139
 and this comes from,

00:32:14.579 --> 00:32:14.799
 uh,

00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:19.240
 many Christmas pageants,

00:32:19.420 --> 00:32:19.680
 but,

00:32:19.879 --> 00:32:20.359
 um,

00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.779
 in Luke 2,

00:32:23.919 --> 00:32:24.219
 when,

00:32:24.639 --> 00:32:25.179
 um,

00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.419
 the glory of the Lord,

00:32:27.779 --> 00:32:28.219
 shines,

00:32:28.219 --> 00:32:29.819
 shines around,

00:32:30.819 --> 00:32:31.759
 the shepherds,

00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:32.699
 it says,

00:32:32.779 --> 00:32:33.919
 they are sore afraid,

00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:35.759
 um,

00:32:35.879 --> 00:32:36.699
 and I think,

00:32:37.379 --> 00:32:38.079
 um,

00:32:38.259 --> 00:32:40.039
 one of the beautiful things,

00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:40.719
 that the,

00:32:41.199 --> 00:32:41.799
 um,

00:32:42.339 --> 00:32:42.819
 cross,

00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:43.659
 and resurrection,

00:32:43.959 --> 00:32:45.259
 allows us to do,

00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:46.659
 is move from that,

00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:47.579
 deep,

00:32:47.959 --> 00:32:48.659
 fear,

00:32:48.879 --> 00:32:50.219
 when we see God's glory,

00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:51.159
 to awe,

00:32:51.339 --> 00:32:52.019
 and wonder,

00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:52.759
 and then,

00:32:53.139 --> 00:32:53.679
 ultimately,

00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:54.359
 love,

00:32:54.439 --> 00:32:54.939
 and worship,

00:32:55.699 --> 00:32:56.479
 um,

00:32:56.679 --> 00:32:57.179
 and,

00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:58.119
 I think,

00:32:58.479 --> 00:32:58.919
 even,

00:32:59.500 --> 00:33:00.179
 um,

00:33:00.339 --> 00:33:00.740
 today,

00:33:00.879 --> 00:33:01.779
 in the sermon talk,

00:33:01.859 --> 00:33:02.919
 when the disciples,

00:33:03.219 --> 00:33:04.199
 see Jesus walking,

00:33:04.199 --> 00:33:04.799
 on the water,

00:33:05.019 --> 00:33:05.979
 their first reaction,

00:33:06.619 --> 00:33:07.259
 is deep fear,

00:33:07.459 --> 00:33:08.259
 and Jesus says,

00:33:08.959 --> 00:33:09.979
 do not be afraid,

00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:10.759
 and I think,

00:33:10.819 --> 00:33:11.619
 that's often,

00:33:12.219 --> 00:33:13.259
 a line we see,

00:33:13.419 --> 00:33:14.339
 that comes after,

00:33:14.479 --> 00:33:15.000
 the revealing,

00:33:15.219 --> 00:33:16.099
 of God's glory,

00:33:16.459 --> 00:33:17.819
 is do not be afraid,

00:33:18.479 --> 00:33:19.099
 and I think,

00:33:19.299 --> 00:33:19.639
 the,

00:33:19.879 --> 00:33:20.319
 um,

00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:21.119
 there's something,

00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:22.079
 really beautiful,

00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:23.199
 in the ways,

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:24.679
 that Christ allows us,

00:33:24.859 --> 00:33:26.039
 to not be afraid,

00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:27.740
 of God's glory,

00:33:27.899 --> 00:33:28.399
 but rather,

00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:29.339
 yeah,

00:33:29.819 --> 00:33:30.939
 partake in it,

00:33:31.219 --> 00:33:32.219
 and also,

00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:33.279
 um,

00:33:34.159 --> 00:33:36.399
 yeah,

00:33:36.959 --> 00:33:39.279
 not only partake in it,

00:33:39.419 --> 00:33:39.619
 but,

00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:40.339
 then,

00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:41.179
 go forth,

00:33:41.339 --> 00:33:42.740
 and show it to others,

00:33:42.939 --> 00:33:43.379
 um,

00:33:43.379 --> 00:33:44.319
 through our love,

00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.000
 through our self-sacrifice,

00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:47.119
 through humility,

00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:48.519
 um,

00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:49.619
 through,

00:33:49.819 --> 00:33:50.759
 through nature,

00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:52.659
 and the things we create,

00:33:52.659 --> 00:33:53.500
 um,

00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:54.799
 yeah,

00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:57.659
 so,

00:33:57.659 --> 00:34:01.479
 that's kind of all I have,

00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.199
 do people have questions,

00:34:03.419 --> 00:34:03.919
 or thoughts,

00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:04.639
 or comments?

00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:13.280
 I think,

00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.440
 there's also a utility,

00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:15.380
 in God's,

00:34:15.380 --> 00:34:15.680
 um,

00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:16.940
 you know,

00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:17.260
 like,

00:34:18.539 --> 00:34:19.579
 there were a couple of thoughts,

00:34:19.700 --> 00:34:20.099
 I think,

00:34:20.240 --> 00:34:22.680
 first,

00:34:22.740 --> 00:34:23.539
 I first thought about,

00:34:24.220 --> 00:34:25.220
 God's fellowship,

00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:25.900
 and how to be,

00:34:25.980 --> 00:34:26.440
 in the garden,

00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:27.460
 like,

00:34:28.740 --> 00:34:29.920
 there was also this,

00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:30.659
 idea that,

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:31.920
 God always came down,

00:34:32.139 --> 00:34:32.760
 over the day,

00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:34.059
 so,

00:34:35.099 --> 00:34:35.860
 and there was,

00:34:36.200 --> 00:34:36.960
 didn't seem like,

00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.260
 I just want,

00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:38.440
 like,

00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:39.420
 if we trace the arc,

00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:39.740
 of,

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.059
 how does God,

00:34:41.720 --> 00:34:43.220
 God's glory,

00:34:43.340 --> 00:34:44.059
 and his interaction,

00:34:44.240 --> 00:34:45.119
 with human beings,

00:34:45.240 --> 00:34:45.740
 look like,

00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:46.920
 I think it starts with,

00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:47.220
 like,

00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:48.019
 I don't think,

00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:48.780
 God is,

00:34:49.099 --> 00:34:49.559
 I guess,

00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:49.760
 like,

00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:50.039
 any,

00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:51.740
 if we feel like,

00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:52.400
 God,

00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:53.460
 as a father,

00:34:53.700 --> 00:34:54.639
 I'd always just wanted,

00:34:54.780 --> 00:34:55.220
 to just,

00:34:55.219 --> 00:34:57.119
 relate with his children,

00:34:57.379 --> 00:34:58.399
 in a sense of,

00:34:58.599 --> 00:34:58.719
 like,

00:34:59.059 --> 00:35:00.279
 no matter how powerful,

00:35:00.799 --> 00:35:01.599
 the father is,

00:35:01.779 --> 00:35:01.980
 like,

00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:02.719
 when he gets home,

00:35:02.859 --> 00:35:02.899
 like,

00:35:02.959 --> 00:35:04.059
 he just really wants,

00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:04.419
 to spend,

00:35:04.419 --> 00:35:06.119
 with his kids,

00:35:06.500 --> 00:35:06.659
 yeah,

00:35:06.819 --> 00:35:07.199
 and actually,

00:35:07.319 --> 00:35:08.259
 the fear became,

00:35:08.419 --> 00:35:09.459
 when sin entered,

00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:10.539
 because that's actually,

00:35:10.659 --> 00:35:10.959
 in fact,

00:35:10.959 --> 00:35:12.199
 when he shows up,

00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:13.539
 in Exodus,

00:35:14.099 --> 00:35:14.980
 when he shows up,

00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:15.879
 to the Israelites,

00:35:16.359 --> 00:35:17.039
 it was interesting,

00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:18.419
 God really wanted them,

00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:18.959
 to come,

00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:20.379
 but he shows up,

00:35:20.459 --> 00:35:21.019
 in this awe,

00:35:21.179 --> 00:35:22.099
 and Moses tells them,

00:35:22.379 --> 00:35:23.099
 that don't be afraid,

00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:23.899
 he just wants,

00:35:24.139 --> 00:35:25.079
 so that you can be,

00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:26.099
 afraid of sin,

00:35:26.319 --> 00:35:27.099
 not because,

00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:27.940
 he wanted to push you,

00:35:28.099 --> 00:35:28.679
 but of course,

00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:29.079
 they were like,

00:35:29.380 --> 00:35:29.579
 nah,

00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:29.739
 nah,

00:35:29.739 --> 00:35:29.900
 nah,

00:35:30.299 --> 00:35:31.519
 you go talk to God,

00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:31.860
 like,

00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:32.619
 make him stand,

00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:33.279
 far away,

00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:34.860
 and you can tell us,

00:35:35.139 --> 00:35:35.619
 and so there's,

00:35:35.759 --> 00:35:36.539
 I think the tension,

00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:37.199
 around like,

00:35:38.139 --> 00:35:39.079
 his glory,

00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:40.179
 and his revealing,

00:35:40.319 --> 00:35:40.819
 in his glory,

00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:41.699
 has never been,

00:35:42.059 --> 00:35:42.860
 from his perspective,

00:35:42.940 --> 00:35:43.059
 like,

00:35:43.099 --> 00:35:43.639
 I think it's,

00:35:43.759 --> 00:35:44.759
 it's the sin in us,

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:45.539
 that has always,

00:35:45.619 --> 00:35:46.279
 driven the fear,

00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:46.840
 not,

00:35:48.219 --> 00:35:49.259
 those who have been,

00:35:49.319 --> 00:35:49.679
 redeemed,

00:35:49.759 --> 00:35:50.599
 and those he calls,

00:35:50.799 --> 00:35:50.940
 like,

00:35:50.980 --> 00:35:51.579
 I think it's,

00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:52.340
 they would see,

00:35:52.340 --> 00:35:54.120
 the glory,

00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:55.019
 in Jesus Christ,

00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:55.280
 like,

00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:55.740
 of somebody,

00:35:55.940 --> 00:35:57.460
 at the very heart of it,

00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:57.840
 is somebody,

00:35:58.019 --> 00:35:59.780
 who invites us,

00:35:59.860 --> 00:36:00.860
 to come and spend,

00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:02.019
 and so,

00:36:02.140 --> 00:36:02.880
 I guess it just,

00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:05.140
 the fear,

00:36:05.260 --> 00:36:06.000
 the translation,

00:36:06.460 --> 00:36:07.280
 I think of the fear,

00:36:07.380 --> 00:36:07.980
 I think it's just,

00:36:08.200 --> 00:36:08.700
 more like,

00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.039
 it's a reminder,

00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:10.700
 of just,

00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:11.260
 whatever,

00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:12.640
 brokenness of sin,

00:36:12.740 --> 00:36:14.340
 that we cannot stand,

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:15.100
 in the presence,

00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:16.000
 of God's glory,

00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:17.519
 because of the sin,

00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:18.119
 that we have,

00:36:18.260 --> 00:36:18.539
 not,

00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:20.039
 not because,

00:36:20.139 --> 00:36:20.559
 in a sense,

00:36:20.659 --> 00:36:20.780
 like,

00:36:20.820 --> 00:36:22.179
 God is inherently,

00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:22.639
 like,

00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:23.500
 scary,

00:36:24.340 --> 00:36:24.500
 but,

00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:25.099
 that like,

00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:25.780
 he is,

00:36:27.059 --> 00:36:27.239
 like,

00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:27.960
 sin cannot,

00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.260
 yeah,

00:36:28.380 --> 00:36:28.519
 like,

00:36:28.579 --> 00:36:29.739
 sin cannot,

00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:30.820
 dwell in his presence,

00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:31.320
 so like,

00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:33.320
 and that's what,

00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:34.920
 drives all the reactions,

00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:35.559
 and I think,

00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:36.139
 that God,

00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:36.699
 in Christ,

00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:38.300
 essentially,

00:36:38.579 --> 00:36:39.500
 is dealing with the sin,

00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:40.199
 so that,

00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:41.380
 we can then,

00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:42.440
 approach that glory,

00:36:42.619 --> 00:36:43.820
 as he always desired,

00:36:43.940 --> 00:36:44.440
 like children,

00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:45.740
 who are welcomed,

00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:46.599
 into his presence,

00:36:46.740 --> 00:36:47.179
 and not,

00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:48.579
 driven away,

00:36:48.720 --> 00:36:49.579
 by our sin,

00:36:49.659 --> 00:36:50.159
 and I think,

00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:51.280
 that could be,

00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:52.159
 the,

00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:52.840
 the art,

00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:54.000
 around like,

00:36:54.099 --> 00:36:54.800
 it's ultimately,

00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:55.440
 around,

00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:56.460
 God,

00:36:56.980 --> 00:36:58.000
 inviting us,

00:36:58.200 --> 00:36:58.740
 more and more,

00:36:58.920 --> 00:36:59.220
 and then,

00:36:59.440 --> 00:36:59.559
 in,

00:37:00.659 --> 00:37:01.519
 in the new heavens,

00:37:01.740 --> 00:37:02.320
 it's like,

00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:04.260
 I think the story about,

00:37:05.780 --> 00:37:06.780
 there's also the part,

00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:07.119
 around,

00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:08.320
 light,

00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:09.500
 like God,

00:37:09.579 --> 00:37:10.200
 the glory and light,

00:37:10.340 --> 00:37:10.579
 kind of,

00:37:10.980 --> 00:37:11.500
 there's this thing,

00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:11.880
 that says,

00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:12.079
 you know,

00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:13.260
 it's only this splendor,

00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:13.619
 like,

00:37:13.659 --> 00:37:14.159
 immortal,

00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:14.619
 invisible,

00:37:14.799 --> 00:37:15.339
 that last light,

00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:15.519
 like,

00:37:15.759 --> 00:37:16.639
 help us to see,

00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:17.559
 that it's only the splendor,

00:37:17.659 --> 00:37:17.899
 of light,

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:18.859
 that hides you,

00:37:19.359 --> 00:37:20.440
 and if you remember,

00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:21.679
 the new heaven,

00:37:21.839 --> 00:37:22.219
 the Bible says,

00:37:22.279 --> 00:37:23.099
 there's no sun,

00:37:23.759 --> 00:37:24.819
 because the glory,

00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:25.059
 like,

00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:25.759
 I think it's like,

00:37:25.879 --> 00:37:26.940
 there's the thing,

00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:27.559
 around like,

00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:28.799
 the glory is,

00:37:29.259 --> 00:37:30.179
 maybe it just,

00:37:30.279 --> 00:37:31.000
 makes us remember,

00:37:31.279 --> 00:37:32.179
 that God is,

00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:34.879
 really inviting us,

00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:36.239
 always,

00:37:36.500 --> 00:37:38.039
 into his presence,

00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:39.920
 and the things,

00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:41.239
 that keep us away,

00:37:41.759 --> 00:37:41.879
 is,

00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:43.019
 is our sin,

00:37:43.019 --> 00:37:44.340
 and,

00:37:44.340 --> 00:37:44.759
 I mean,

00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:45.539
 rightfully so,

00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:46.000
 he is,

00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.219
 all inspiring,

00:37:47.780 --> 00:37:48.659
 so that,

00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.119
 we may be holy,

00:37:50.900 --> 00:37:51.500
 and thus,

00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:52.619
 remain,

00:37:53.300 --> 00:37:54.039
 in his presence,

00:37:54.139 --> 00:37:54.400
 otherwise,

00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:55.500
 I think it's our sin,

00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:56.840
 it's his,

00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:57.880
 glory is,

00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:58.179
 you know,

00:37:58.259 --> 00:37:58.820
 what we call it,

00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:00.360
 reaction to sin,

00:38:00.539 --> 00:38:01.139
 that destroys,

00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:02.840
 those that are not pure.

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.680
 it's,

00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:07.079
 it's the Isaiah 6,

00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.660
 is the appropriate response,

00:38:08.980 --> 00:38:09.200
 right,

00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:09.940
 woe is me,

00:38:10.620 --> 00:38:13.019
 I'm unclean,

00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:14.700
 and I live among unclean people,

00:38:15.160 --> 00:38:16.320
 and what was required,

00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:17.000
 was atonement,

00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:18.640
 the burning coal,

00:38:18.820 --> 00:38:18.920
 to,

00:38:19.140 --> 00:38:20.559
 this has taken away your sin,

00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:21.860
 and yeah,

00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:22.180
 yeah,

00:38:22.340 --> 00:38:22.620
 like,

00:38:23.660 --> 00:38:24.539
 1 John 4,

00:38:25.240 --> 00:38:25.780
 18,

00:38:25.980 --> 00:38:26.200
 right,

00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:27.280
 the fear,

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:28.460
 has to do with punishment,

00:38:28.460 --> 00:38:29.820
 but,

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:30.639
 perfect love,

00:38:31.659 --> 00:38:32.599
 drives out the fear,

00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.619
 yeah,

00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:41.039
 I don't know if this is going to be super coherent,

00:38:41.220 --> 00:38:42.019
 but I'm kind of,

00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.119
 thinking a little bit,

00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:43.519
 about,

00:38:43.659 --> 00:38:43.840
 like,

00:38:43.900 --> 00:38:44.619
 the two,

00:38:45.420 --> 00:38:45.880
 words,

00:38:45.980 --> 00:38:46.139
 even,

00:38:46.240 --> 00:38:47.300
 that were used in the Hebrew language,

00:38:47.380 --> 00:38:47.740
 for glory,

00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:47.920
 right,

00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:48.079
 like,

00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:49.139
 there's the Shekinah glory,

00:38:49.139 --> 00:38:49.639
 which is like,

00:38:49.720 --> 00:38:50.880
 the indwelling presence of God,

00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:52.360
 but then there's the comfort of glory,

00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:52.740
 that's like,

00:38:52.780 --> 00:38:53.539
 his weightiness,

00:38:53.659 --> 00:38:54.400
 and his heaviness,

00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:55.960
 and thinking about what you were saying,

00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:56.840
 about how God's,

00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.199
 always designed,

00:38:58.460 --> 00:38:59.599
 to be present,

00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:00.559
 with his people,

00:39:00.659 --> 00:39:02.340
 and that was his plan for creation,

00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:04.099
 it was that we would get to experience,

00:39:04.179 --> 00:39:05.199
 the Shekinah glory,

00:39:05.699 --> 00:39:07.079
 and yet you cannot disentangle,

00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:08.039
 the Shekinah glory,

00:39:08.139 --> 00:39:09.199
 from the come old glory,

00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:09.920
 the weightiness,

00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:11.639
 that cannot bear to exist,

00:39:11.699 --> 00:39:12.579
 in the presence of sin,

00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:14.880
 yeah,

00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:15.380
 I don't know,

00:39:15.539 --> 00:39:16.320
 I was just thinking about that,

00:39:16.579 --> 00:39:18.420
 that sounds a lot more theological,

00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:20.420
 that's a lot more theological,

00:39:20.420 --> 00:39:21.420
 that's a lot more theological,

00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:24.199
 that's fair,

00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:25.980
 what's the difference,

00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:27.159
 between Shekinah glory,

00:39:27.420 --> 00:39:27.699
 and the,

00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:29.359
 so the Shekinah literally,

00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:30.639
 if I'm remembering correctly,

00:39:30.779 --> 00:39:31.399
 and this is like,

00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:32.199
 distant memory,

00:39:32.419 --> 00:39:33.219
 but like Shekinah,

00:39:33.339 --> 00:39:35.059
 is the presence of glory,

00:39:35.179 --> 00:39:36.239
 so like when we think about like,

00:39:36.259 --> 00:39:37.679
 God dwelling in his temple,

00:39:37.819 --> 00:39:38.960
 that's a Shekinah glory,

00:39:39.319 --> 00:39:39.939
 whereas Kavod,

00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:40.879
 is like his,

00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:42.559
 it's almost like,

00:39:42.619 --> 00:39:43.359
 it has a sense of like,

00:39:43.399 --> 00:39:44.099
 his mass,

00:39:44.259 --> 00:39:44.799
 like his,

00:39:45.439 --> 00:39:46.960
 like his heaviness,

00:39:47.219 --> 00:39:47.399
 right?

00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:47.899
 His gravity,

00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:49.480
 like in the word,

00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:50.860
 how we talk,

00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:51.400
 how many times,

00:39:51.539 --> 00:39:52.519
 it's like his gravitas,

00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:53.099
 in a way,

00:39:53.099 --> 00:39:54.480
 yeah,

00:39:54.539 --> 00:39:54.639
 yeah,

00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:54.760
 yeah,

00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:55.280
 so,

00:39:55.700 --> 00:39:56.059
 it's just,

00:39:56.240 --> 00:39:56.619
 I mean like,

00:39:56.660 --> 00:39:57.579
 they're both his glory,

00:39:57.680 --> 00:39:57.840
 right,

00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.519
 and it's not like,

00:39:58.539 --> 00:39:58.960
 we can say like,

00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:00.160
 sometimes it's Shekinah,

00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.059
 sometimes it's Kavod,

00:40:01.160 --> 00:40:01.940
 like it's,

00:40:02.059 --> 00:40:02.400
 I think,

00:40:02.980 --> 00:40:03.940
 my understanding is that,

00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:04.720
 there are two different ways,

00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:05.559
 to express,

00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.860
 like in human terms,

00:40:07.900 --> 00:40:08.680
 to the best that we can,

00:40:08.740 --> 00:40:09.820
 like what God's glory is,

00:40:09.820 --> 00:40:11.760
 I mean the sun is a,

00:40:12.100 --> 00:40:13.680
 extremely massive object,

00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:14.160
 so,

00:40:15.200 --> 00:40:16.440
 maybe that's a good way,

00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:17.920
 to unify that,

00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.160
 or,

00:40:20.420 --> 00:40:21.260
 I can't help with,

00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.000
 like the rings analogy,

00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.059
 I think,

00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:25.980
 when you guys,

00:40:26.140 --> 00:40:27.920
 when Gandalf goes to Rohan,

00:40:28.080 --> 00:40:29.200
 I don't know if you watch the movies,

00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.019
 where he shows up,

00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:31.660
 you know the king that is possessed,

00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:31.980
 right,

00:40:32.059 --> 00:40:33.240
 like you know that he walks,

00:40:33.680 --> 00:40:34.080
 and then,

00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:35.700
 and I think he,

00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:37.059
 all of a sudden it's like,

00:40:37.200 --> 00:40:37.860
 he shouts like,

00:40:37.900 --> 00:40:39.800
 do not mistake me for it,

00:40:39.820 --> 00:40:40.260
 magician,

00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:41.420
 with cheap,

00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:42.680
 who does cheap tricks,

00:40:42.980 --> 00:40:44.760
 and when his glory,

00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:45.920
 gets revealed,

00:40:46.180 --> 00:40:46.740
 and I think,

00:40:46.900 --> 00:40:47.100
 but,

00:40:47.580 --> 00:40:48.360
 you could argue that,

00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:49.480
 God has the ability,

00:40:49.740 --> 00:40:51.600
 to conceal,

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:52.580
 and reveal,

00:40:52.740 --> 00:40:53.480
 in a sense like,

00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:54.720
 I don't think they are,

00:40:54.980 --> 00:40:55.860
 they are not,

00:40:56.100 --> 00:40:56.900
 they think you're right,

00:40:56.980 --> 00:40:57.460
 but he,

00:40:57.900 --> 00:40:58.680
 can choose,

00:40:58.820 --> 00:41:00.280
 to be present in A,

00:41:00.940 --> 00:41:01.700
 or he can choose,

00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:03.059
 to be present in like that,

00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:04.559
 but I think,

00:41:04.720 --> 00:41:05.519
 to Gandalf's words,

00:41:05.680 --> 00:41:05.840
 like,

00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:07.440
 we should not mistake him,

00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:07.760
 for,

00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:09.780
 somebody,

00:41:09.820 --> 00:41:17.320
 even though,

00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.920
 that's the direction,

00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:20.640
 that is the direction,

00:41:20.640 --> 00:41:20.860
 yeah,

00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:21.640
 I think,

00:41:21.640 --> 00:41:22.480
 I think,

00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.760
 I think you probably,

00:41:26.980 --> 00:41:27.920
 you may just,

00:41:28.160 --> 00:41:28.460
 you know,

00:41:28.539 --> 00:41:29.039
 two,

00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.260
 two concepts,

00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:30.900
 together,

00:41:30.900 --> 00:41:36.019
 and just on a whole,

00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:36.559
 other note,

00:41:37.019 --> 00:41:38.940
 if you're in any,

00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:39.420
 sort of,

00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:40.440
 creative,

00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:41.720
 professional,

00:41:41.720 --> 00:41:42.119
 or life,

00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:43.300
 endeavor,

00:41:44.059 --> 00:41:45.119
 reading Tolkien,

00:41:45.420 --> 00:41:46.800
 on being a sub-creator,

00:41:47.160 --> 00:41:48.360
 is awesome,

00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.260
 because,

00:41:51.680 --> 00:41:52.300
 his,

00:41:52.300 --> 00:41:52.599
 his,

00:41:52.820 --> 00:41:53.099
 like,

00:41:53.160 --> 00:41:54.599
 he writes about this theory,

00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:55.780
 of being a sub-creator,

00:41:55.780 --> 00:41:57.060
 and,

00:41:57.060 --> 00:41:57.740
 it's that,

00:41:57.860 --> 00:41:58.019
 like,

00:41:58.220 --> 00:41:59.120
 how do we join,

00:41:59.220 --> 00:41:59.920
 in his glory,

00:42:00.300 --> 00:42:00.980
 one of the ways,

00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:01.880
 one of the reasons,

00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.180
 why we're creating people,

00:42:03.420 --> 00:42:04.220
 is because we're,

00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:05.400
 in the image of a creator,

00:42:05.720 --> 00:42:07.260
 and the way that we create,

00:42:07.780 --> 00:42:08.240
 can,

00:42:09.040 --> 00:42:09.600
 be,

00:42:10.019 --> 00:42:10.820
 under him,

00:42:11.500 --> 00:42:12.760
 a way of bringing glory to him,

00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:13.640
 and there's lots of,

00:42:14.540 --> 00:42:14.760
 you know,

00:42:14.820 --> 00:42:15.440
 then go to the,

00:42:15.620 --> 00:42:16.740
 arts and creative one,

00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:17.240
 to talk about,

00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:17.880
 what does that mean,

00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.039
 because there's a lot more,

00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:21.599
 to say,

00:42:21.940 --> 00:42:22.960
 about what that looks like,

00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:23.579
 but if you're looking,

00:42:23.579 --> 00:42:24.480
 for something interesting,

00:42:24.680 --> 00:42:25.280
 it's a great,

00:42:25.780 --> 00:42:26.619
 it's like an essay,

00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:27.420
 that you can find,

00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:28.200
 I think you might even,

00:42:28.300 --> 00:42:29.200
 be able to find it online,

00:42:30.820 --> 00:42:31.420
 but,

00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.200
 he writes about,

00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:37.099
 I think it,

00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:37.720
 it's an,

00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:38.160
 it's a,

00:42:38.220 --> 00:42:39.160
 it's an essay called,

00:42:39.240 --> 00:42:39.940
 On Fairy Tales,

00:42:40.539 --> 00:42:41.280
 On what?

00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:42.440
 On Fairy Tales,

00:42:42.680 --> 00:42:42.840
 okay,

00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:43.900
 fairy being,

00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.559
 F-A-E-R-I-E,

00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:46.240
 not,

00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:47.000
 that's fine,

00:42:47.019 --> 00:42:47.519
 not like,

00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:48.119
 little wings,

00:42:48.539 --> 00:42:49.099
 but,

00:42:49.460 --> 00:42:51.699
 fairy being,

00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:52.579
 magical,

00:42:53.759 --> 00:43:09.079
 any other thoughts?

00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:20.259
 well,

00:43:20.319 --> 00:43:21.219
 thank you very much,

00:43:21.299 --> 00:43:21.779
 for coming,

00:43:21.940 --> 00:43:23.239
 I'll close us in prayer,

00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:23.819
 and then,

00:43:24.460 --> 00:43:25.840
 I'll let you get on,

00:43:25.940 --> 00:43:26.579
 with your dates,

00:43:26.579 --> 00:43:33.059
 dear Lord,

00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:34.519
 we do just come before you,

00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:35.239
 in awe,

00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:36.099
 and wonder,

00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.599
 yeah,

00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:41.000
 at the breadth,

00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:41.619
 and depth,

00:43:41.759 --> 00:43:42.599
 of your glory,

00:43:42.799 --> 00:43:43.059
 Lord,

00:43:43.759 --> 00:43:44.500
 that we cannot,

00:43:44.500 --> 00:43:45.360
 even begin,

00:43:45.500 --> 00:43:46.259
 to fathom,

00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.960
 and yet,

00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:49.719
 the glimpses,

00:43:49.819 --> 00:43:50.299
 we get,

00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:51.340
 leave us,

00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:51.940
 breathless,

00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:52.460
 Lord,

00:43:52.460 --> 00:43:57.559
 as we go out,

00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:58.320
 may we,

00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.059
 strive,

00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:01.240
 to be Christ-like,

00:44:01.500 --> 00:44:01.820
 Lord,

00:44:02.699 --> 00:44:03.519
 in humility,

00:44:03.699 --> 00:44:04.820
 may we love those,

00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:06.440
 more than ourselves,

00:44:06.720 --> 00:44:07.099
 Lord,

00:44:08.059 --> 00:44:10.059
 may we,

00:44:10.059 --> 00:44:11.119
 give us the ability,

00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:11.960
 to see through,

00:44:12.059 --> 00:44:12.559
 the suffering,

00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:13.500
 of this world,

00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:15.280
 to your glory,

00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:16.320
 to hold on,

00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:17.180
 to your promises,

00:44:17.460 --> 00:44:18.100
 with hope,

00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.360
 yeah,

00:44:21.539 --> 00:44:21.960
 and may we,

00:44:22.120 --> 00:44:22.720
 hold your word,

00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:24.000
 close to our hearts,

00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.280
 as a reminder,

00:44:26.700 --> 00:44:27.559
 of who you say,

00:44:27.660 --> 00:44:28.180
 we are,

00:44:28.340 --> 00:44:29.019
 to you,

00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:31.580
 and who you say,

00:44:31.660 --> 00:44:32.019
 we are,

00:44:32.120 --> 00:44:32.780
 in this world,

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:33.240
 Lord,

00:44:33.680 --> 00:44:35.920
 we just thank you,

00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:36.720
 for this time,

00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:37.559
 to spend time,

00:44:37.660 --> 00:44:38.300
 in your word,

00:44:39.080 --> 00:44:40.059
 in Jesus name,

00:44:40.220 --> 00:44:40.500
 Amen.

00:44:40.500 --> 00:44:40.640
 Amen.

00:44:44.180 --> 00:44:45.000
 Thank you,

00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:46.079
 Thank you,

00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:46.440
 Tim.

00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:46.679
 Yeah.

00:44:47.219 --> 00:44:48.199
 You're very welcome.