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 Well, good morning, everyone. It's good to be with you.

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 Let me pray.

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 Lord Jesus, pour your Spirit out on us.

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 Open your Word up to us. Let us see you more clearly.

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 Let us know you better, be more like you, and follow you more closely.

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 Amen.

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 I always love preaching from the Gospels.

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 I think I say this every time I preach from the Gospels,

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 because it is a chance to stop and look closely at Jesus and study Him.

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 Everything Jesus said and did was catalytic.

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 It was meant to transform the people who were around Him.

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 And our passage this morning from John 12 is no different.

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 I also like the Gospel of John probably a little bit more than the other Gospels.

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 I also say this, I'm not supposed to have favorites.

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 John's my favorite.

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 And I think I even read some of our ones that everybody has a favorite Gospel,

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 one that they connect with the most.

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 And some people even try to draw some personality or psychological meaning

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 from why somebody likes this Gospel versus another,

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 what it all means.

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 And that's not what today's about, but I just thought that was kind of interesting.

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 But in a big super generalization, Mark focuses on what Jesus did.

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 Matthew focuses on what Jesus taught.

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 Luke focuses on who Jesus paid attention to.

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 John focuses on who Jesus is.

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 So you can have favorites, but you kind of need them all.

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 And they're all carefully constructed, but John's narrative is especially well constructed in my view.

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 He communicates a lot of what he says as much restructure as it's actually what he says about Jesus.

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 So there's a lot going on into today's passage.

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 And I want to look at how John brings us to this moment in John 12,

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 to the conversations that happen between different actors,

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 and then what happens within those interactions.

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 It's always about what Jesus says and does and what he tells us about him.

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 So let's start with how did John get us to this moment.

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 So it all starts back in chapter 11, when Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead.

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 And that episode starts a pattern that characterizes each scenario that we come across

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 as we make our way to today's passage.

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 It's a pattern of positive and negative reactions to Jesus that are driving him towards the cross.

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 It's a pattern of opposite reactions plays out against a general movement

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 of greater and greater visibility and prominence for Jesus.

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 So let's look at this pattern briefly.

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 So when Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead, there are two reactions.

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 Some of the crowd are deemed under faith in Jesus,

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 but others quickly head back to Jerusalem to convene an emergency meeting to kill him.

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 There are really strong opposite reactions.

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 There's no question about the fact that a miracle happened.

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 It's the difference in reactions.

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 And not only that, but if the council didn't already know who Jesus was,

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 they all know who he is now.

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 And not only that, but after this episode,

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 this is where it went back to Jerusalem,

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 and the crowds in Jerusalem in the temple were gathering for the festival,

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 were all talking about him and looking for him.

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 Jesus was creating more reactions to himself and becoming more prominent.

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 And in a small way, this pattern repeated.

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 There was a quiet dinner of my friends in the home of Martha and Mary afterwards.

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 And Mary adores Jesus by anointing his feet with an extensive ointment.

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 It's a beautiful time of adoration, gratitude, and even worship.

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 Judas, however, criticizes Mary in front of everyone for her actions.

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 Once again, strong polar opposite reactions to Jesus and who he is.

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 And not only that, but when the chief priests hear that the crowd is coming to see Jesus

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 and also to see Lazarus, they decide they're going to kill Lazarus too.

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 It's amazing.

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 Jesus continues to be prominent.

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 Of course, it gets even better.

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 Jesus rises to Jerusalem triumphantly.

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 Crowds come out.

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 They're praising him.

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 They're waving palm branches.

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 And all of their praise expresses a messianic faith.

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 The Pharisees, on the other hand,

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 all complain how terrible it is that the whole world is going after him.

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 Polar opposites.

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 Faith and worship, on the one hand.

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 Resistance to Jesus, on the other.

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 And all in a moment, even greater prominence for Jesus.

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 Every single one of these moments are on this trajectory of greater prominence

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 and of stronger and stronger, polar reactions to Jesus.

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 And so in this moment in John 12,

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 there's this atmosphere that's charged with the tension between adoration

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 and acclaim, on one hand, and disparagement,

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 even a murderous hate, on the other.

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 A tension that grows as Jesus' own prominence grows.

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 So, in our passage,

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 there's this hothouse of fervor,

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 both for and against Jesus.

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 And two of Jesus' disciples, Philip and Andrew,

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 have a moment in this part of our readings.

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 It starts with some Greeks who want to come see Jesus.

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 Though John deliberately evokes

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 an earlier moment in the gospel for the disciples

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 who came to Jesus at the end of chapter one.

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 And it signals to us that this is really,

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 this passage is really the passage of our discipleship.

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 At the end of chapter one,

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 Nathaniel,

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 Andrew approaches Simon

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 and brings Simon to Jesus.

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 And similarly,

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 Philip goes and finds Nathaniel and brings him to Jesus.

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 In this passage,

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 some Greeks come to worship,

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 God fears,

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 and they approach Philip,

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 asking to see Jesus.

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 Philip goes to Andrew,

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 and then they go to Jesus with three groups' request.

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 Philip and Andrew have,

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 I know,

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 a good instinct,

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 a well-developed instinct

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 for how to come to Jesus

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 and how to bring people to Jesus.

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 We see this in the earlier chapter

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 in chapter one.

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 But even so,

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 those instincts,

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 in this moment,

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 need to be developed,

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 refined,

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 and refocused a bit.

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 With all the heightened fervor

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 and the greater prominence

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 that Jesus is experiencing,

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 the request of the Greeks

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 would have seemed like

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 a good next logical step

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 in Jesus' current trajectory.

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 Sitting at the pinnacle of acclaim

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 by the crowds in Jerusalem

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 that Gentiles are now also asking

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 to come and see Jesus

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 could signal

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 the beginning of a wider ministry for Jesus

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 to the wider world,

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 a greater platform

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 and a greater reach.

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 So Philip and Andrew,

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 as part of Jesus' entourage,

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 as part of the inner circle of 12,

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 tried to facilitate

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 what they thought

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 was Jesus' next phase,

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 a next big step

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 where Jesus would hit the big time.

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 So Jesus replies,

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 the hour has come

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 for the Son of Man

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 to be glorified.

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 And you can all text your hand

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 or to Philip

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 fist bumping each other

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 and saying,

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 I told you so.

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 It's the time for Jesus

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 to be glorified.

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 This is the moment

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 we read the situation correctly.

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 We were right to do that.

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 But then,

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 and it's a big but then,

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 Jesus reframes the situation.

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 It's kind of jarring in some ways.

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 He totally upends

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 the whole thinking

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 about what's going on

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 and all that he says next.

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 He says three things

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 about discipleship

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 that needs to unpack you.

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 Before we get into that,

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 I want to focus you on something.

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 Something I want you to see

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 about Jesus

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 and his response

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 to the disciples.

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 He's not mad at them.

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 He's not angry,

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 disappointed,

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 exasperated,

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 or in any way critical

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 of their response,

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 of the way they're coming to him.

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 His words,

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 that reframe the situation,

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 are entirely

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 without judgment.

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 And what I want you to see,

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 the first thing

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 I want you to take away

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 from this morning

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 is that as his disciple,

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 Jesus is the same way

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 with you

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 as he is with them.

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 He is never disappointed,

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 exasperated,

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 or in any way critical

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 of you

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 when your intentions

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 are right,

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 but you still get it

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 a bit wrong.

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 Jesus,

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 the way he was

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 with Philip and Andrew,

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 he is like this

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 with you right now.

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 There is no condemnation,

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 not now or ever.

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 Let's look at how Jesus

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 reframes the situation.

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 First thing Jesus says,

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 unless a grain of wheat

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 falls into the earth

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 and dies,

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 it remains alone.

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 But if it dies,

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 it bears much fruit.

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 This is the first phrase,

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 the first thing

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 that Jesus said

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 that would have been

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 really jarring.

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 Jesus drops a death metaphor

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 on them.

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 A dying metaphor.

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 And all the fist bumping

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 probably came to a halt

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 right at that moment.

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 But it's not entirely

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 all about death

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 because Jesus articulates

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 a spiritual principle

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 that it's only through death

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 that new life

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 and fruitfulness

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 is possible.

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 This is not the way

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 of the world.

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 It's not the way

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 even of Washington, D.C.

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 Then Jesus says

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 something next

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 and he takes this metaphor

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 and he extends it

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 to people.

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 Whoever loves his life

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 loses it.

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 Whoever hates his life

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 in this world

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 will keep it

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 for eternal life.

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 It just keeps getting better.

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 In other words,

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 by letting go

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 of the world

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 and the flesh,

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 by letting go

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 of all that is dark

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 and empty,

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 by letting go

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 of prominence,

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 platforms,

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 influence,

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 and all that narrative

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 of impact

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 on all the world's terms,

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 the very things

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 that Philip

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 and Andrew

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 and likely

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 the other disciples

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 thought was happening

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 for Jesus right now,

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 by letting go

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 of these things,

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 you get a higher life,

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 a whole life,

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 true life

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 and eternal life,

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 a real life

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 that lasts forever.

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 And then Jesus

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 says this,

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 if anyone serves me,

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 he must follow me

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 and where I am,

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 there will my servant

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 also be.

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 If anyone serves me,

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 the Father

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 will honor him.

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 In other words,

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 the path

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 to this higher

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 real life

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 that lasts for eternity

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 is by serving,

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 following,

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 and being with Jesus.

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 And the disciples

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 would find out shortly

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 that to follow

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 and be with Jesus

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 is to go through death

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 and ultimately new life,

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 his pattern

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 of the cross

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 and resurrection.

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 So a second thing

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 I want you to see,

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 the words themselves

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 I'll come back to,

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 but a second thing

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 that I want you to see

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 about how Jesus

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 interacts with his

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 two disciples

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 is that as much

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 as he gently

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 but powerfully

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 reframes the situation

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 for Philip and Andrew,

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 you should expect him

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 to be the same way

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 with you.

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 We should not miss

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 his gentle nudges

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 and whispers

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 of follow me.

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 In this regard.

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 So already,

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 if this passage

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 had stopped there

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 and the sermon

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 stopped there,

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 there'd be a lot

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 to unpack,

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 but it kind of

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 keeps going

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 and it honestly

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 gets a bit wild.

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 There's this four-way

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 conversation that starts

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 between Jesus,

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 his two disciples

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 who are listening,

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 God,

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 his father,

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 and the crowd

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 around him.

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 We find out

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 in verse 34

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 that Jesus

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 and Philip

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 and Andrew

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 are not in a quiet

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 room somewhere

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 trying to talk

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 to Jesus

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 about his next

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 big moves,

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 but they seem

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 to be in the midst

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 of a crowd.

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 How much

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 of all this

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 conversation

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 between Jesus

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 and Philip

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 and Andrew

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 the crowd

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 could hear

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 isn't clear,

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 but they must

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 have heard

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 some of it.

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 But all that

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 follows definitely

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 happens in the

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 hearing of the crowd

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 and Jesus

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 is every bit

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 as intentional

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 with this moment

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 as he is

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 with his two

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 disciples.

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 So Jesus

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 drops these

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 heavy metaphors

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 on his disciples,

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 but then he

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 does something.

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 He gets vulnerable.

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 He shares

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 that his soul

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 is troubled

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 and he feels

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 a bit like

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 asking his father

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 to save him

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 from this hour.

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 And maybe

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 a third thing

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 I want you to see

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 and notice about Jesus

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 apart from his words.

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 He's vulnerable,

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 open,

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 and emotionally

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 expressive.

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 The way he is

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 with Philip

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 and Andrew

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 is how he is

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 or at least

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 how he wants

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 to be with you.

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 You should expect

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 him to be vulnerable

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 and emotionally

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 accessible to you

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 when you talk

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 with him.

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 And then Jesus

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 seems to raise

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 his voice a little

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 and prays out loud,

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 Father, glorify

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 your name.

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 And this all

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 by itself

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 would have been

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 an encouraging

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 and an inspiring

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 example of a

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 righteous person

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 making the right

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 choice in a hard

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 moment,

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 but more happens.

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 an audible voice

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 comes from heaven

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 affirming that

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 the Father

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 has glorified

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 his name

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 and will do

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 so again.

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 The crowd

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 around Jesus

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 heard this.

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 They heard his

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 prayer to the Father

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 and then they heard

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 this noise

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 coming from the sky.

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 Some thought

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 it was thunder,

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 some said,

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 well,

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 they thought it was a voice,

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 but they thought

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 probably an angel.

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 Jesus heard it

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 as a voice

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 and he understood

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 whose voice it was.

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 And even further,

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 he discerned

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 that the voice

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 was actually

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 for their sake,

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 not his.

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 It confirmed

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 all that Jesus

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 said to Philip

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 and Andrew

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 prior to this

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 and maybe even

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 to some of the

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 crowd around him.

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 And then Jesus

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 makes the full

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 connection

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 between his

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 statements

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 and how the path

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 of death

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 leads to new life.

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 Jesus draws

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 this four-way

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 conversation together

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 by foretelling

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 to the crowd

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 what kind of death

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 he was going to die.

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 Though the crowd

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 doesn't seem to pick

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 this up right away.

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 Jesus states

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 that his death,

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 the death he's going

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 to die,

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 will result

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 in the ruler

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 of the world

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 being cast out,

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 the one who is

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 ultimately responsible

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 for all that is wrong

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 with the world.

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 And it will also result

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 in all people

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 being drawn to himself.

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 Jesus' death

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 will bring new life.

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 So there are things

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 to see in this passage.

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 Jesus

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 related to his disciples

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 in a certain way

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 and we should take

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 some learning from this

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 about who he is.

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 And he said some things

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 that should challenge us.

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 Jesus is never angry

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 or disappointed with you.

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 Come with your good intentions

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 and don't worry

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 if you might get it wrong.

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 He's very,

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 he's interested

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 in the conversation

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 with you.

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 He will not judge you.

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 You can expect him

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 to reframe

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 and direct you on things.

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 It doesn't mean

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 he thinks you got it wrong.

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 He just wants to

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 set you straight

00:15:02.860 --> 00:15:03.860
 because he loves you.

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 So be open to him.

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 Be open to who he is

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 and how he is.

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 And more than just open,

00:15:11.319 --> 00:15:12.419
 actually ask him

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 to let you experience him

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 in these ways.

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 Jesus' three statements

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 to his disciples

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 should challenge all of us

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 but honestly,

00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.139
 they challenge me personally.

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 Probably like some of you,

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 my day job

00:15:26.340 --> 00:15:27.340
 has a lot to do

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 with strategy

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 and building partnerships

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 and communications.

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 There's getting leadership

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 and getting the organization

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 on platforms,

00:15:36.860 --> 00:15:38.379
 having a more prominent voice

00:15:38.379 --> 00:15:39.699
 on policy debates.

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 There's a lot of messaging

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 and talking points

00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.340
 and trying to influence people

00:15:44.340 --> 00:15:45.259
 and power

00:15:45.259 --> 00:15:46.240
 to make the decisions

00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:47.039
 that you want

00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:48.139
 for the cause

00:15:48.139 --> 00:15:49.340
 that you're trying to advance.

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 And in some ways,

00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:52.160
 when I read this passage,

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 I recognized

00:15:53.280 --> 00:15:54.620
 what Philip and Andrew

00:15:54.620 --> 00:15:55.160
 were doing

00:15:55.160 --> 00:15:57.800
 because I look for ways

00:15:57.800 --> 00:15:58.780
 to do the same thing.

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 It's kind of my daily bread.

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 Like some of us in this room,

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 I work hard

00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:05.820
 at all of these things.

00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:08.660
 Changing the world

00:16:08.660 --> 00:16:09.399
 is what gets

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 many of us

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 out of bed in the morning.

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 And I can make

00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:13.180
 a clear connection

00:16:13.180 --> 00:16:14.980
 between my kingdom values

00:16:14.980 --> 00:16:15.840
 and my day job.

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 But as valuable

00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:18.019
 and important

00:16:18.019 --> 00:16:19.280
 as all those things are,

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 they are in the end

00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:21.399
 not the ways

00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:21.960
 of the kingdom.

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 They're not going to work

00:16:23.820 --> 00:16:24.399
 when it comes

00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:25.620
 to how I follow Jesus.

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 So,

00:16:27.060 --> 00:16:27.899
 I'm not about

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 to quit my job.

00:16:29.180 --> 00:16:30.160
 None of you should either.

00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:31.240
 So don't go away

00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:31.420
 saying,

00:16:31.500 --> 00:16:32.340
 Rob thinks I should

00:16:32.340 --> 00:16:32.940
 quit my job.

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 It's not a kingdom job.

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 That's not what I'm saying.

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 Keep your jobs.

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 But we should all

00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:38.940
 have the spiritual sensitivity

00:16:38.940 --> 00:16:40.360
 and the discernment

00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:41.860
 that Jesus walked in

00:16:41.860 --> 00:16:42.879
 in today's passage

00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:43.920
 to be able

00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:44.900
 to see the kingdom

00:16:44.899 --> 00:16:45.899
 and the ways

00:16:45.899 --> 00:16:46.500
 of the Father

00:16:46.500 --> 00:16:47.559
 at work around us.

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 I think it means

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 recognizing

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 that for all

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 our efforts

00:16:51.939 --> 00:16:52.959
 to be successful

00:16:52.959 --> 00:16:54.259
 in changing the world,

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 there are limits

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 to what we can do.

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 It means recognizing

00:16:58.519 --> 00:16:59.340
 that in the end,

00:16:59.500 --> 00:17:00.279
 it's the Father

00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:01.220
 who will glorify

00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:02.220
 his own name

00:17:02.220 --> 00:17:03.879
 and that he will

00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:04.700
 change the world

00:17:04.700 --> 00:17:05.720
 in his own way

00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:07.019
 and in his own time

00:17:07.019 --> 00:17:08.119
 to a level

00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:09.160
 and a depth

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 that our best

00:17:10.059 --> 00:17:10.980
 collective efforts

00:17:10.980 --> 00:17:12.220
 probably can't achieve.

00:17:13.180 --> 00:17:14.359
 That's a humble posture.

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 It also means

00:17:16.560 --> 00:17:17.620
 that if we are serious

00:17:17.620 --> 00:17:18.880
 about serving Jesus,

00:17:19.080 --> 00:17:20.180
 about following him

00:17:20.180 --> 00:17:21.140
 and being with him,

00:17:21.320 --> 00:17:22.740
 we should expect him

00:17:22.740 --> 00:17:24.080
 at times to ask us

00:17:24.080 --> 00:17:26.040
 to walk the path of death

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 to have new life.

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 Are we open to that?

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 It might mean

00:17:31.080 --> 00:17:32.000
 that when we're out there

00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:32.780
 doing what we do

00:17:32.780 --> 00:17:33.740
 to change the world,

00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:34.800
 praying that God

00:17:34.800 --> 00:17:35.780
 works through us

00:17:35.780 --> 00:17:36.820
 and gives us the wisdom

00:17:36.820 --> 00:17:37.420
 to do it,

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 that we have the heart posture

00:17:39.380 --> 00:17:40.460
 of John the Baptist

00:17:40.460 --> 00:17:41.640
 who said,

00:17:41.900 --> 00:17:42.960
 he must increase,

00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:44.340
 but I must decrease.

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 It's hard.

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 So I want to give us

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 a moment now

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 to reflect quietly

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 on Jesus' words

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 from this passage.

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 I want to ask you

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 to ask Jesus,

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 what are you saying

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 to me right now

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 through these three statements

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 that you said

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 to your disciples?

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 So let's just take

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 a quiet moment

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 and then I'll close

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 us in prayer.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 Lord, as I prayed

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 at the beginning,

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 pour your spirit

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 out on us.

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 We want to see you

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 more clearly,

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 know you more deeply,

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 be more like you,

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 and follow you

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 more closely.

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 And as always,

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 if you want to talk

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 about any of what

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 I talked about today,

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 if you feel like the Lord

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 is stirring things up

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 in you and you want

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 prayer,

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 please reach out.

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 Any of us would love

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 to talk with you

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 or pray with you.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.