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 They're favorite of all the different doctrines we've been talking about, which is really what we call perseverance of the saints.

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 So, if we...

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 This deals with a lot of different issues that we have as believers.

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 We're dealing with assurance of salvation.

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 If our salvation is real, then how are we supposed to know that it's real?

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 What if it's false?

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 Etc.

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 But on your sheet, again, every week I've been trying to give you like a historical quotation that fits the things that we've been talking about.

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 And I really like this one.

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 This has to do with what we're talking about tonight.

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 But Augustine wrote,

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 The grace of God, which both begins a man's faith and which enables it to persevere until the end,

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 is not given according to merits, but is given according to his own most secret and at the same time most righteous, wise, benevolent will.

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 He makes us live.

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 He makes us to persevere even until the end in order that for everlasting we may live.

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 Who could be ordained to eternal life save by the gift of perseverance?

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 So, kind of out of the gate.

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 This shows you how old this doctrine kind of goes.

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 So, yeah, it existed way before John Calvin ever entered the scene.

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 So, think about the best way to do this.

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 So, tonight, okay, so before I go to the next slide, let's remember where we've been and where we are tonight.

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 It's, again, people who may say that they believe in two or three of the points that we're talking about.

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 What I've been trying to show you is they're all interconnected.

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 They're all, like, links in the same chain.

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 You can't really understand and believe one and not the other because they're the inevitable consequence of what you believe in one of them.

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 And so, if we connect it all together, you know, man is fallen.

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 Man is, fallen man is depraved.

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 He has no ability to help himself or change himself.

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 And that's self-evident, too.

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 That's just scripture.

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 But you ever try to change yourself by yourself?

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 It doesn't really work that well.

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 And even if you manage to cleanse the outside, inwardly you become prideful, arrogant, and then you're more like a Pharisee than a humble believer.

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 So, we need God to save us.

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 We have no ability to change our natures.

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 And we're dead.

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 We're in our trespasses.

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 Our hearts are corrupted by evil.

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 Our minds are depraved.

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 And so, we need someone to save us.

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 So, that gets to elections.

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 So, the Father, before the foundation of the world, chose unconditionally out of his grace.

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 So, whenever we have that not fair feeling, we have to go back to that no one deserves salvation.

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 That we're all at the mercy of the king.

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 And if he chooses to show you mercy, then that's a blessing.

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 We don't deserve it.

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 We only deserve judgment.

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 And so, the Father chose.

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 The Father elected a people.

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 And then he gave them to the Son to save.

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 Right?

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 So, when we say Christ died on the cross, I showed you all the different verses to talk about how he died for his people.

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 How in John 17, he died for those at whom the Father gave him.

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 And died for the elect.

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 Paid the price for their sin.

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 And how we talked about how the atonement was either limited in its power or limited in its extension.

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 And we were trying to argue that it really is limited in its extension.

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 Because it meant it saved exactly who it was meant to save.

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 Which is namely the elect.

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 And so, I think we spent a good bit of time saying that Christ's blood is such a precious thing that to waste it would be, you know, the most heinous sin ever.

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 That he purchased exactly what he intended to purchase with his blood.

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 And got the reward of his suffering.

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 So then, the Father chose them.

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 The Son dies for them.

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 And then resurrects for them.

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 Then the Spirit is the one who comes and, like, applies that work to us.

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 He regenerates our dead souls.

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 He gives us a new nature.

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 Makes us new creations.

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 And the outcome of regeneration is faith.

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 Like, the consequence of that.

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 The dead man comes alive.

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 And the air he breathes is faith and repentance.

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 So, he's converted after he's born again.

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 So, that's what we talked about.

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 I think, you know, like last time.

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 So, getting into tonight, what we're basically arguing now is that if God truly has saved you.

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 Like, if the Father has elected you, the Son has paid your price, the price of your sin on the cross, and the Spirit has regenerated you, you will not lose that salvation.

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 And it's kind of called today the once saved, always saved thing.

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 But it's sort of, I've heard that abuse so many times.

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 It's like, I just don't even want to hear that phrase anymore.

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 But, it's true.

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 But it also sort of, I guess, cheapens the doctrine a little bit because it's so much more than just that.

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 It's so much more than just, yeah, once you're saved, you're always saved.

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 And so, remember, Roman Catholics, Methodists, a lot of the Church of God, charismatic movement, they would all say that, no, you can lose your salvation.

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 And if that's true, if it started with you.

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 If you played some role in it, if you kind of met God halfway, then, yeah, you can walk away.

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 But the point is, it did not start with you, and it won't end with you.

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 So, let's see here, the next slide.

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 But tonight kind of deals with, and this thing's in the way, hold on.

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 All right, here we go.

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 Tonight, these are kind of dealing with some of the questions.

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 Have I been given the gift of faith only to squander it?

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 Is the presence of sin seem to be too powerful in my life that it feels as though I am without Christ?

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 How can I be sure that I've, sorry, this is such small print to me.

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 How can I be sure that having started a new life in Christ, I will walk in Him to the end?

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 Is it possible for God to keep me up, keep up His end of the bargain, but for me to not keep up mine?

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 Can I lose my salvation and fall away from Christ?

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 Am I the only one who feels this way?

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 It kind of deals with those sorts of questions.

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 So, we'll get to this in a minute, but the doctrine of assurance is different than what we're talking about tonight.

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 It's connected to it.

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 But there's a lot of reasons why genuine believers doubt their salvation.

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 Here's just some of them, okay?

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 A conscious awareness of sin, especially indwelling sin.

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 Persistent disobedience and backsliding.

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 So, yes, it is possible for believers to revert back to their old life, to fall into old temptations, even for a long season.

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 But what we always see in Scripture and self-evident in our own lives is that God doesn't really put up with that too long.

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 He uses something to discipline us, and it brings us back, you know, to Himself.

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 And we see a lot of people in Scripture just falling back into sin.

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 And so, yeah, so if there's secret sin in your life, God's just not going to allow you to have peace until you've confessed it to Him and dealt with it in the right way.

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 This is a big one, false conceptions of God's character and the gospel.

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 So, yeah, a lot of people just don't understand who God is.

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 They don't know what the Scripture says about the character of God.

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 They don't really know much about the gospel, or they just pray to prayer, and they're trying to be a good person and go to church.

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 And so that's huge.

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 I mean, a lot of the students that I, you know, talk to over the years, they are just so ignorant about who God is and ignorant about what happened to them when they were saved.

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 And so much of that rustling comes from, again, just not knowing the truth.

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 So once they're informed, they're like, oh, wow, yes.

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 So a lack of clarity on key doctrines such as, whoops, I was supposed to say regeneration.

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 My bad.

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 Justification, adoption, et cetera.

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 So if you even understood one of those doctrines, justification, adoption, you'd really realize, like, how secure your salvation is if you just actually understood some of those things.

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 Lack of clarity on circumstances of somebody's conversion.

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 So, in other words, like, some of us have this story, but a lot of us don't.

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 We have that.

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 We know that moment, that time, and that place that we were saved.

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 And it really did start at that point.

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 Like, our life began shifting in a different direction.

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 But a lot of people don't have that.

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 A lot of people don't have, that's what we would call the Damascus Road experience.

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 Like, you were going about your day, and then Jesus just had this dramatic encounter with you.

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 And write the date down in your Bible, all that.

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 And a lot of people don't have that.

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 And so they wrestle because they just don't know if it ever started to begin with.

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 And the big pushback on that one is a lot of people have that date, but they don't have any present righteousness in their life.

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 They're like, yeah, I was saved.

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 But there's nothing presently right now that shows that they ever believed it to begin with.

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 And so it gives them a false sense of security.

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 And we're not told to do that anywhere in the Scripture, to mark down the day you were saved.

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 And it's okay if you do that, but it just shouldn't be held up as the norm for people.

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 And my favorite quote about this, it was a long time ago.

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 I was struggling with assurance when I was in college.

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 And back then, it's back when you still listen to the radio.

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 And I had a station in Delonga that actually had John MacArthur on it.

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 And he preached through, there's a series called Myths About Salvation.

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 But he had six of those messages that were about reasons people lack assurance.

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 And then three messages that were about tests of assurance to see that if you are a believer.

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 But in that series, he was addressing like the circumstances thing.

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 And he said, not knowing I'm a Christian because I can't remember the day I was saved,

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 is like saying, I can't remember my birthday, so I don't know if I'm alive right now.

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 So I was like, that's really good.

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 So you actually know you're alive.

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 That's like the point.

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 Yeah, exactly.

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 So if you can't pinpoint the date, that's okay.

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 But a lot of people tend to struggle with that.

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 But looking to the wrong kind of emotional or circumstantial experience.

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 So a lot of people are just basically saying, if I'm saved, it should feel this way.

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 I should always be happy.

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 I always should be joyful.

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 I should never have any more struggles.

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 And that's just like a wrong kind of emotional response, circumstantial.

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 And obviously just attacked by Satan or those who serve him.

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 Those are real things.

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 So I thought it would be encouraging to see just at least a couple people who struggle with assurance,

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 people that we look up to.

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 And John Bunyan, who wrote Pogba's Progress, he definitely struggled with assurance.

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 He said, my heart was at times exceedingly hard.

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 If I would have given a thousand pounds for a tear, I could not shed one.

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 Oh, the diligence of Satan.

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 Oh, the desperateness of a man's heart.

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 I feared that this wicked sin of mine might be that sin unpardonable.

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 Oh, no one knows the terrors of those days but myself.

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 I found it hard to work now to pray to God because the despair was swallowing me up.

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 So there was a long season where he really battled with that.

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 And likewise, Spurgeon at times fell into dark depression and doubts about his own salvation.

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 And he said, I'm a subject of depression so fearful that I hope none of you ever get to such extremes of wretchedness as I go to.

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 But I always get back again by this.

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 I know I trust in Christ.

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 I have no reliance but in him.

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 And if he falls, I shall fall with him.

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 But if he does not, I shall not.

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 Because he lives, I shall live also.

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 And I spring to my legs again to fight with my depressions of spirit and get victory through it.

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 And so may you do.

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 And so you must.

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 So, yeah, good words.

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 So let's get into our outline.

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 But, yeah, real quick, before we start this, let me see.

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 Yeah, I do have a place for that.

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 Okay.

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 Let's just get through our outline.

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 Because I just want you to start seeing some of the scripture.

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 But point number one there, that God's elect can never be lost.

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 For it is God who has saved them.

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 And they will be kept by his power until the end.

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 Those whom God has predestined, called, justified, he will glorify.

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 Christ has paid the price for all their sin, given them his perfect righteousness.

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 And now they are united to him by faith.

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 The Holy Spirit has regenerated their souls, sealed them, given himself as a guarantee of their salvation,

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 and assures them of their eternal inheritance.

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 Therefore, the elect are assured of eternal life the moment they believe,

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 and can live joyfully for his glory.

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 So this was actually something I never saw before.

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 But, like, the definitive language that John uses to say, hey, if this happened, this actually happened.

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 This wasn't like it might happen in the future.

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 Like, if you actually believe in the Son of God, if you actually place your faith in him,

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 you will have eternal life.

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 There's not like, well, hopefully you will, if you hang on.

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 It's like the definitive language.

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 Just look at some.

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 So, Jesus says, Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness.

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 Even so, must the Son of Man be lifted up.

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 And so whoever believes will in him have eternal life.

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 And then he says there, right, for God so loved the world,

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 that he gave his only begotten Son,

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 that whoever believes in him shall not perish.

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 So, John 5,

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 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word,

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 and believes in him who sent me,

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 has eternal life.

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 And does not come into judgment,

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 but has passed out of death into life.

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 So, the moment you believed,

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 you were passed from death to life.

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 Like, it's just like that, simultaneously.

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 It's not a,

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 well, you can believe,

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 but maybe you won't pass from death to life.

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 Jesus says,

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 everyone who believes has eternal life.

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 Here's one of our personal favorites, right?

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 John 10,

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 My sheep,

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 there's that elect idea,

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 hear my voice,

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 I know them,

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 and they follow me.

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 I give eternal life to them,

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 and they will never perish.

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 No one will snatch them out of my hand.

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 My Father,

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 who has given them to me,

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 is greater than all.

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 And no one is able to snatch them out of my Father's hand.

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 I and the Father are one.

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 So, that's a very clear,

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 I mean,

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 I don't know how you could argue around that,

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 but,

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 I'll not read all of Romans 8 there,

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 but basically the whole chapter of Romans 8,

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 kind of speaks to this very idea,

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 that if you truly are saved,

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 if God has worked salvation in your heart,

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 you believe everything that Paul has written to this point,

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 then you will not be condemned.

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 You will be justified.

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 That if he has indeed saved you,

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 he saved you forever.

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 And,

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 and go to verse maybe 37.

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 Knowing all these things,

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 we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

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 For I am sure,

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 you could write the word,

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 confident,

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 persuaded,

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 that neither death nor life,

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 nor angels,

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 nor rulers,

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 things present,

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 nor things to come,

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 nor powers,

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 nor height,

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 nor debt,

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 or anything else in all creation,

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 will be able to separate us from the love of God,

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 that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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 So,

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 nothing will separate us.

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 So,

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 so much in that.

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 Let me,

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 pick a couple more here.

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 Since I referenced it earlier,

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 look at Ephesians 1,

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 but talking about the Holy Spirit.

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 In him,

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 you also,

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 after listening to the message of the truth,

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 the gospel of your salvation,

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 having also believed,

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 you were sealed in him with the Holy Spirit of promise,

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 who was given as a pledge of our inheritance,

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 with a view to the redemption of God's own possession,

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 to the praise of his glory.

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 Yep,

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 and we have the very famous Philippians 6 there,

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 I'm confident of this very thing,

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 that he who began the good work in you,

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 will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.

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 So,

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 on and on.

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 Keep you from stumbling down there in June.

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 You can be kept by the Father,

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 to be blameless.

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 So,

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 all right,

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 yeah,

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 first Peter,

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 then we'll stop after this one.

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 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

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 who according to his great mercy has called us.

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 There it is.

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 There's that effectual call of the Holy Spirit,

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 the irresistible call,

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 called us to be born again,

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 to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

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 to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable,

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 undefiled,

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 and will not fade away,

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 reserved in heaven for you,

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 who are being protected by the power of God through faith for salvation,

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 ready to be revealed in the last time.

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 So,

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 I remember studying that verse 5 a long time ago,

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 but I remember the word protected means like set a guard over.

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 So,

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 think about like a military guard washing over,

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 something.

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 That's what it is.

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 And of course,

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 we see that go wrong a lot.

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 Guards fall asleep,

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 they get bribed,

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 they get lazy,

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 they're just not as good as the people trying to kill the other people.

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 But imagine like an omnipotent,

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 omniscient God setting watch over you,

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 and nothing is going to take away what is being protected.

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 So,

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 pause.

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 Any questions?

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 We just go to the next part.

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 Okay.

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 Or comments,

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 whatever.

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 But,

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 I think we all love finding as many scriptures as we can about that kind of stuff,

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 because there are everywhere.

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 These are just a few I picked out and put on here.

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 So,

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 very comforting.

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 But that also just brings a lot of questions.

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 So,

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 this idea of the falling away of some.

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 Okay.

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 So,

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 we all know that guy or that girl who,

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 who apparently at one point got saved.

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 Maybe you were involved in that,

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 having conversations with them.

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 And for a while,

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 they,

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 they look great.

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 They kind of quit some of the bad stuff they were doing.

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 Um,

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 they kind of like clean themselves up and stop cussing,

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 stop drinking or whatever,

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 stop sleeping around.

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 And,

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 and they're really steady.

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 They come around for a period of time,

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 but then something happens and they slowly just start to go back,

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 drift back to where they were before.

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 And before you know it,

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 they're back in the old sin again.

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 They've kind of concluded that God's not really worth it.

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 And they never come back.

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 Um,

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 I've got a list of people like that in my head.

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 And,

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 uh,

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 so maybe that's somebody you've met before.

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 And so what happened?

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 Um,

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 so here it is.

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 There is a falling away of some who outwardly profess to be believers.

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 If this falling away persists,

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 meaning it's not just like a temporary,

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 temporary struggle they have,

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 right?

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 Like they continue.

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 It persists.

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 It goes on.

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 It doesn't stop.

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 It shows that their faith was not genuine,

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 that they were never born of God.

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 Scripture warns.

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 So there's a lot of warnings,

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 right?

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 That there are many who will come into the body of Christ for a time,

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 partake of all the good and wonderful blessings that are part of the church,

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 but eventually will turn away.

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 It's impossible for those who have heard,

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 tasted,

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 and rejected the gospel to return to repentance.

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 This is because the only message that can save them,

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 they have rejected.

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 An individual must continue in the faith to truly show evidence of being regenerated.

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 Therefore,

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 there are numerous warnings in God's word to professing believers to not deliberately continue in their sinful lifestyles and to walk away from Christ.

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 If a professing believer's faith be genuine,

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 it must endure and persevere to the end to be saved.

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 So,

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 so in other words,

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 people come around the church,

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 they enjoy the friendships,

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 they enjoy the community,

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 they enjoy the help and service that comes along with it.

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 But at some point they fall away and we'll look at some of these here.

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 But Jesus kind of warns,

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 right?

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 In John 8,

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 if,

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 if,

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 if you continue in my word,

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 then you are truly disciples of mine.

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 So meaning that your obedience and your love to me must continue if you're going to prove to be one of my disciples.

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 So there's another warning.

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 The trustworthy saying for,

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 if we have died with him,

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 we will also live with him if we endure.

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 See that?

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 We also will reign with him.

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 If we deny him,

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 he also will deny us.

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 So there's this idea of him just writing to people saying like,

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 yeah,

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 if our faith endures,

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 it will,

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 it's proven,

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 right?

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 That you will have all these promises.

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 So this is a very well known one.

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 And Hebrews 6,

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 it's one that really troubled me a long time ago.

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 I think,

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 I can't remember if I preached on this in Hebrews or if Nathan did or,

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 but,

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 but after studying it,

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 I actually feel a lot better about it now.

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 But to give you a little bit of context though,

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 in Hebrews,

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 we don't know who wrote it,

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 Paul,

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 Apollos,

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 somebody else.

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 Um,

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 but he's got three different kinds of Jews in mind when he's writing Hebrews.

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 He's gotten those who,

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 he's addressing those who have left what they were in.

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 And now they're Christians.

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 Now they're followers of Jesus.

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 They see Jesus as the Messiah.

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 They see all the promises of God being yes in Jesus.

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 So they,

00:24:55.360 --> 00:24:56.120
 they're,

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 they're converted.

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 So they're genuine Christians.

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 There's another group that's on the fence and they don't know if they're going to go toward Jesus or go back to the old ways.

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 And then there's another group of people who are just like,

00:25:10.019 --> 00:25:10.100
 no,

00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:10.220
 no,

00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:10.360
 no,

00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:10.940
 come back.

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 Like,

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 don't,

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 don't go to Jesus.

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 Remain here.

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 And so it's helpful to think about when you read Hebrews,

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 what audience he's sort of talking to.

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 But there's our,

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 there are warnings in here.

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 So remember,

00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:24.279
 he's trying to warn people,

00:25:24.560 --> 00:25:25.460
 don't go back.

00:25:26.320 --> 00:25:28.200
 Don't go back to the old ways.

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 And if you're on the fence,

00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.059
 like come this way,

00:25:31.420 --> 00:25:33.519
 you've heard the truth.

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 So here we go.

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 Hebrews six for in the case of those who have once been enlightened and who have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been partakers of the Holy spirit and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come and then have fallen away.

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 It is impossible to renew them again to repentance.

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 Since they again crucify themselves to the son of God and put him to open shame for the ground that drinks the rain,

00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:14.279
 which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for the sake of who it is till receives a blessing from God.

00:26:15.120 --> 00:26:16.960
 So meaning if your faith is real,

00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:20.140
 if it falls on good ground and it yields a crop,

00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:20.420
 right,

00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:22.559
 then you'll receive a blessing from God if it's real.

00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:24.519
 But in contrast,

00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.619
 if it yields thorns and thistles,

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 it is worthless and close to being cursed and ends up being burned.

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 Okay,

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 so stop there.

00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:35.519
 So again,

00:26:35.580 --> 00:26:36.920
 there are people who have come around,

00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:37.799
 they've heard the gospel,

00:26:37.980 --> 00:26:39.340
 they've been a part of the church community,

00:26:40.059 --> 00:26:42.819
 they've cleaned themselves up on the outside a little bit,

00:26:43.299 --> 00:26:44.340
 they love all the,

00:26:44.380 --> 00:26:44.720
 you know,

00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:49.100
 the good stuff that comes with the fellowship and all that,

00:26:49.180 --> 00:26:49.759
 but eventually,

00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:51.240
 they turn away,

00:26:51.380 --> 00:26:52.100
 they fall away.

00:26:52.099 --> 00:26:54.019
 And what he's saying is like,

00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:59.579
 if they've come around the gospel and they flirted with it and made a little of it,

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 and kind of like,

00:27:00.859 --> 00:27:01.039
 yeah,

00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:01.559
 whatever,

00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:02.859
 it's just a means to an end,

00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:04.559
 and then they fall away,

00:27:04.659 --> 00:27:06.480
 then what other message is going to save them?

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 That's the only message.

00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.799
 And they've kind of hardened themselves against that message.

00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:12.500
 So it's,

00:27:13.699 --> 00:27:16.599
 to come back to repentance could be impossible,

00:27:16.859 --> 00:27:17.639
 humanly speaking,

00:27:17.740 --> 00:27:17.959
 right?

00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:18.900
 What if you,

00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:20.900
 so you couldn't have like,

00:27:21.779 --> 00:27:22.160
 Go ahead.

00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:22.920
 So,

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 if someone is not saved,

00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:27.340
 and they were to like,

00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:28.420
 show signs of that,

00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:29.180
 and they fall away,

00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:30.500
 it would like,

00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:31.200
 bottom line,

00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:32.600
 they would not be able to like,

00:27:32.660 --> 00:27:33.140
 be saved.

00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:36.960
 More or less.

00:27:37.059 --> 00:27:37.860
 So meaning like,

00:27:38.579 --> 00:27:39.539
 if in fact,

00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:40.799
 they have,

00:27:41.860 --> 00:27:43.600
 they've heard the gospel,

00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:44.500
 they've heard the truth,

00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.319
 they've been around good Bible teaching,

00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:47.639
 and,

00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.059
 and then they go back to their former way of life,

00:27:51.059 --> 00:27:52.480
 after hearing all of that,

00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:52.740
 after,

00:27:52.879 --> 00:27:54.659
 after being given so much,

00:27:55.439 --> 00:27:55.839
 then,

00:27:56.740 --> 00:27:57.879
 at least on their end,

00:27:57.939 --> 00:27:59.579
 it'll be impossible for them to come back.

00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:01.960
 True.

00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:03.119
 That's,

00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.119
 that's a verse that hangs over this one.

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 And,

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 and I'm,

00:28:06.659 --> 00:28:10.079
 and I'm saying that these people were never believers to begin with.

00:28:10.139 --> 00:28:13.839
 It means that they was just a false belief because of the last verse.

00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:14.240
 Okay?

00:28:14.879 --> 00:28:15.639
 Look at verse nine.

00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:17.179
 It says,

00:28:17.539 --> 00:28:17.579
 but,

00:28:17.980 --> 00:28:18.419
 beloved,

00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:22.519
 we are convinced of better things concerning you,

00:28:23.379 --> 00:28:25.799
 and the things that accompany salvation.

00:28:26.700 --> 00:28:28.399
 Though we are speaking in this way.

00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:29.179
 So meaning like,

00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:29.960
 like,

00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.700
 I'm convinced that the person that I just explained to you is not you.

00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.419
 I'm convinced that you actually have received true salvation.

00:28:37.619 --> 00:28:38.099
 You see that?

00:28:38.339 --> 00:28:39.179
 It makes a distinction.

00:28:39.379 --> 00:28:39.559
 Like,

00:28:39.919 --> 00:28:41.480
 even though I'm speaking in this manner,

00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:46.240
 I'm convinced that those of you who are reading this are truly saved.

00:28:46.360 --> 00:28:46.380
 You,

00:28:46.620 --> 00:28:50.160
 the things that belong to you really are the things of salvation.

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:51.640
 So he's,

00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.319
 he's speaking in a certain way to,

00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.839
 to that audience who's thinking about going back,

00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:58.859
 or are on the fence of saying,

00:28:58.919 --> 00:28:59.199
 don't,

00:28:59.199 --> 00:28:59.859
 don't do it.

00:28:59.859 --> 00:29:00.079
 Like,

00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:00.279
 like,

00:29:00.339 --> 00:29:02.879
 if you harden your heart towards Christ,

00:29:02.939 --> 00:29:05.539
 if you get that close and then you walk away,

00:29:05.639 --> 00:29:06.119
 then it's,

00:29:07.019 --> 00:29:07.839
 humanly speaking,

00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:08.799
 right?

00:29:08.899 --> 00:29:09.639
 Very much.

00:29:10.059 --> 00:29:10.779
 Talk about that.

00:29:10.899 --> 00:29:11.299
 Yes.

00:29:11.299 --> 00:29:12.759
 Um,

00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:14.139
 well,

00:29:14.299 --> 00:29:15.379
 go ahead and look at the next page.

00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:16.879
 You can look at another part in Hebrews.

00:29:17.099 --> 00:29:17.480
 He says,

00:29:18.159 --> 00:29:22.960
 for if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth,

00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.220
 there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:31.399
 but a fearful expectation of judgment and fury of fire that will consume the

00:29:31.399 --> 00:29:31.799
 adversary.

00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:33.779
 So there's an idea like,

00:29:33.859 --> 00:29:34.000
 look,

00:29:34.019 --> 00:29:35.000
 if you continue,

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:36.000
 um,

00:29:36.339 --> 00:29:39.619
 to go down those sinful ways after receiving the knowledge of the truth.

00:29:39.619 --> 00:29:42.059
 Now here's a big distinction.

00:29:42.219 --> 00:29:42.399
 Okay.

00:29:42.479 --> 00:29:44.859
 He's not talking about temporarily backsliding.

00:29:45.019 --> 00:29:46.579
 So not like that.

00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:47.319
 We all have done.

00:29:47.399 --> 00:29:50.319
 We've gone through seasons where we really struggled in our walk with the Lord.

00:29:50.659 --> 00:29:51.879
 He's not referring to that.

00:29:51.939 --> 00:29:52.779
 He's talking about like,

00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:53.539
 you get on that,

00:29:53.539 --> 00:29:56.259
 that slippery slope and you don't stop.

00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:58.079
 You just keep going and you don't repent.

00:29:58.159 --> 00:30:00.099
 You don't come back to the truth.

00:30:00.899 --> 00:30:01.479
 He's saying,

00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:02.239
 he's warning them.

00:30:02.299 --> 00:30:02.899
 Don't like,

00:30:02.899 --> 00:30:07.359
 don't go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth.

00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:09.199
 Uh,

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.480
 and then first John two 19 very,

00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.080
 I think is a good commentary on these verses.

00:30:15.380 --> 00:30:15.580
 Okay.

00:30:17.180 --> 00:30:17.860
 John wrote,

00:30:18.019 --> 00:30:19.620
 they went out from us.

00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:20.700
 I mean,

00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:23.559
 they left us like people that were in part of the body left.

00:30:23.660 --> 00:30:24.180
 They went away,

00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:30.080
 but they were not really of us for if they had been with us,

00:30:30.080 --> 00:30:32.100
 they would have remained with us,

00:30:32.100 --> 00:30:36.940
 but they went out so that it would be shown that they are,

00:30:36.940 --> 00:30:38.820
 are not of us.

00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:39.660
 So,

00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:40.720
 um,

00:30:41.539 --> 00:30:42.019
 yeah,

00:30:42.019 --> 00:30:45.200
 so I hope that gives you some good commentary.

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:46.320
 So in,

00:30:46.320 --> 00:30:46.840
 in short,

00:30:46.980 --> 00:30:49.140
 there are false converts in the church.

00:30:49.860 --> 00:30:50.340
 Um,

00:30:50.339 --> 00:30:56.619
 and it's the job of every pastor to just push at that and to really show like,

00:30:56.679 --> 00:30:56.779
 Hey,

00:30:56.779 --> 00:30:59.119
 are you really in it for Christ?

00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.359
 There are scriptures that have warnings like that to like,

00:31:02.399 --> 00:31:04.519
 make sure that this isn't you,

00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.539
 because if you,

00:31:06.639 --> 00:31:07.219
 if it is,

00:31:07.259 --> 00:31:08.899
 then a lot of people are going to just,

00:31:08.939 --> 00:31:09.099
 you know,

00:31:09.099 --> 00:31:10.119
 end up leaving and,

00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.000
 uh,

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.279
 walking away from the faith.

00:31:13.159 --> 00:31:13.679
 Um,

00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:14.759
 so during the great awakening,

00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:18.180
 when it seemed like a lot of people were being saved,

00:31:18.320 --> 00:31:18.539
 right?

00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.799
 Tons of people coming and weeping and giving their lives to Christ.

00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:23.400
 Um,

00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:24.519
 well,

00:31:24.600 --> 00:31:24.840
 many,

00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.740
 many months and years later,

00:31:26.740 --> 00:31:27.860
 uh,

00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:30.600
 a lot of those people who had had that experience,

00:31:30.600 --> 00:31:34.259
 a lot of them started going back to their old lifestyles,

00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:35.700
 right?

00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:38.480
 And so John Wesley,

00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:40.380
 who was an Arminian,

00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:40.880
 you know,

00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:41.960
 he would look at that and be like,

00:31:42.100 --> 00:31:42.299
 well,

00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.779
 they had it and then they lost it.

00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:45.880
 Okay.

00:31:45.980 --> 00:31:47.840
 Like they were saved and they fell away.

00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:49.360
 Um,

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.220
 as we're guys like Whitfield and Jonathan Edwards are like,

00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:53.640
 no,

00:31:54.100 --> 00:31:55.720
 they never really ever had it.

00:31:55.819 --> 00:31:56.100
 They,

00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.160
 they went through some outward emotional experience.

00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.519
 They cleaned themselves up on the outside,

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:03.100
 but like they did not persevere.

00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:04.340
 And,

00:32:04.420 --> 00:32:05.000
 um,

00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:08.519
 so Edwards wrote at least two books.

00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:13.359
 One was called the true believer and one was called religious affections.

00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.279
 Meaning like if someone is truly born again,

00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:18.220
 the best evidence that they really are,

00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.980
 are holy affections for God that they didn't have before.

00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.059
 And so they were kind of like saying,

00:32:25.420 --> 00:32:25.859
 yeah,

00:32:25.859 --> 00:32:26.079
 they,

00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.440
 they went out from us because they were never really of us.

00:32:30.779 --> 00:32:31.460
 So I,

00:32:31.460 --> 00:32:34.940
 I laugh at this verse because many years ago when me and Nathan,

00:32:34.940 --> 00:32:35.519
 they were on Facebook,

00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.140
 there was a group called Calvinism,

00:32:38.259 --> 00:32:39.600
 the group that chooses you.

00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.200
 And someone joined it.

00:32:43.940 --> 00:32:44.980
 And then they posted,

00:32:45.220 --> 00:32:46.299
 um,

00:32:46.299 --> 00:32:48.379
 just to prove that none of this is true.

00:32:48.460 --> 00:32:52.619
 I'm going to join this with my free will and I'm going to leave it by my own free will.

00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:53.639
 Then they left.

00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:56.460
 And I was like,

00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:56.759
 dang,

00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:57.460
 okay.

00:32:58.379 --> 00:32:59.619
 Then like maybe an hour later,

00:32:59.619 --> 00:33:02.240
 I looked again and someone had wrote below that.

00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:04.019
 They went out from us,

00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:05.639
 but they were never really of us.

00:33:06.639 --> 00:33:07.279
 Yeah.

00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.339
 And then I was like,

00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:09.579
 oh,

00:33:09.639 --> 00:33:09.839
 what a,

00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:10.579
 what a comeback.

00:33:12.900 --> 00:33:14.619
 Glad I'm not on Facebook anymore.

00:33:15.879 --> 00:33:16.200
 Anyway.

00:33:17.420 --> 00:33:17.940
 Uh,

00:33:18.139 --> 00:33:20.099
 so pause.

00:33:21.099 --> 00:33:22.180
 Any questions?

00:33:22.259 --> 00:33:23.240
 Those are hard verses.

00:33:23.579 --> 00:33:23.700
 Yeah.

00:33:23.700 --> 00:33:37.380
 In essence.

00:33:38.100 --> 00:33:38.519
 Yeah.

00:33:38.860 --> 00:33:39.160
 Like,

00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:44.620
 like the spirit is the one taking the truth and showing it to them.

00:33:45.420 --> 00:33:45.900
 And,

00:33:45.900 --> 00:33:48.200
 and if they look at that and go,

00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:49.960
 no,

00:33:50.120 --> 00:33:50.340
 no,

00:33:50.340 --> 00:33:50.660
 thanks.

00:33:50.779 --> 00:33:50.900
 Like,

00:33:50.940 --> 00:33:51.140
 like,

00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:52.100
 like in time,

00:33:52.600 --> 00:33:53.039
 then,

00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:53.680
 then yeah.

00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:57.360
 Like they've rejected the message of the gospel.

00:33:57.460 --> 00:33:58.940
 The Holy spirit was showing them.

00:33:59.500 --> 00:33:59.940
 Right.

00:34:00.860 --> 00:34:01.160
 And that,

00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.400
 that goes back to what we talked about last time is like,

00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.519
 there's that general call of the gospel that goes out to all people and it can be rejected,

00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.460
 but to the elect,

00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:16.400
 God makes it irresistible to them and he overcomes their dead soul,

00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:17.760
 their unbelief and all that,

00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.619
 and actually cause them to believe.

00:34:20.720 --> 00:34:21.019
 so yeah.

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.380
 So this idea of like,

00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:24.960
 I guess you would call the blasphemy of the Holy spirit,

00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:25.400
 like that,

00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:26.019
 that idea,

00:34:26.019 --> 00:34:27.280
 um,

00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:27.860
 resisting.

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.640
 So all that's kind of seen here,

00:34:30.640 --> 00:34:31.960
 but,

00:34:32.180 --> 00:34:33.880
 but our,

00:34:34.180 --> 00:34:36.480
 I'll call them our opponents,

00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:37.220
 not our enemies,

00:34:37.340 --> 00:34:38.599
 but our opponents would,

00:34:38.660 --> 00:34:40.640
 would use verses like this to be like,

00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:41.519
 yeah,

00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:41.940
 you see,

00:34:42.099 --> 00:34:43.339
 like you can lose your salvation.

00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.940
 And what we're trying to say is for every one of those scriptures,

00:34:48.059 --> 00:34:49.679
 there's like 10 others that say you can't.

00:34:50.259 --> 00:34:50.619
 And,

00:34:50.619 --> 00:34:52.219
 and understood in the right way,

00:34:52.219 --> 00:34:53.879
 those fall into place.

00:34:53.879 --> 00:34:54.039
 Like,

00:34:54.059 --> 00:34:54.159
 yeah,

00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:54.779
 there's warnings.

00:34:54.779 --> 00:34:55.039
 Like,

00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:55.359
 like,

00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.940
 don't think you're a Christian and then just be living in open sin all the time.

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:00.480
 Like that's,

00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:02.400
 don't deceive yourself.

00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.360
 Make sure what you have is the real thing.

00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:05.480
 And,

00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:05.780
 uh,

00:35:05.780 --> 00:35:06.960
 so it can definitely,

00:35:07.380 --> 00:35:08.300
 but there's those warnings,

00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:09.240
 like not to go back.

00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.059
 Don't go back down that sinful path.

00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:12.000
 Like,

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:12.820
 continue on,

00:35:12.940 --> 00:35:13.300
 uh,

00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:13.760
 and endure.

00:35:14.739 --> 00:35:15.199
 So,

00:35:16.099 --> 00:35:16.659
 yeah.

00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:18.760
 Uh,

00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:19.719
 so this gets to,

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:20.800
 yeah.

00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:22.000
 So,

00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.059
 you can't choose Jesus.

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:25.360
 And,

00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:26.239
 if,

00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:27.639
 and you can't,

00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:29.280
 and you can't follow him and it's just true.

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.179
 You respond to him.

00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:33.639
 You respond to the Holy Spirit's calling.

00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:36.659
 As a believer,

00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:36.980
 you mean?

00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:37.539
 Yeah.

00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:37.920
 Okay.

00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:38.280
 Yeah.

00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:38.679
 So,

00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:40.420
 yeah.

00:35:40.420 --> 00:35:42.360
 I will try.

00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:44.019
 Um,

00:35:44.059 --> 00:35:45.159
 I know you were here last time.

00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:46.260
 So,

00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:47.539
 that's a lot of what we talked about.

00:35:47.619 --> 00:35:47.720
 So,

00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.039
 go back and read over those notes.

00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:51.159
 So,

00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:51.760
 if,

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.900
 God has chosen to show mercy to you,

00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.320
 and if you are one of his elect,

00:35:57.380 --> 00:35:58.900
 at some point in your life,

00:35:59.579 --> 00:36:03.019
 like he's going to use that gospel message to bring regeneration to you.

00:36:03.059 --> 00:36:03.639
 He's going to.

00:36:03.720 --> 00:36:04.740
 It's not a question of if,

00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:05.200
 but when,

00:36:05.680 --> 00:36:05.960
 really.

00:36:06.260 --> 00:36:07.200
 And when he does,

00:36:08.200 --> 00:36:08.559
 um,

00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.279
 the outcome of that will be faith in Christ.

00:36:12.299 --> 00:36:12.480
 Like,

00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:14.099
 you're going to respond in faith.

00:36:14.219 --> 00:36:14.380
 But,

00:36:14.739 --> 00:36:15.940
 as we were saying earlier,

00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:19.559
 we only have faith because he's raised us from the dead.

00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.179
 We couldn't do it before that.

00:36:21.779 --> 00:36:22.179
 And so,

00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:23.659
 remember the imagery?

00:36:24.460 --> 00:36:24.820
 Like,

00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:25.639
 if you've seen a,

00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:26.420
 a dead body,

00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:27.019
 a corpse,

00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.739
 there's no air moving through that body.

00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:30.779
 But,

00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:33.000
 if it's brought to life,

00:36:33.059 --> 00:36:35.599
 and there's air flowing out of that person,

00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:36.340
 from their lungs,

00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:37.059
 and all that.

00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:38.260
 So,

00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:39.240
 spiritually speaking,

00:36:39.860 --> 00:36:41.920
 when it says that we are dead in our trespasses,

00:36:42.019 --> 00:36:43.160
 that Greek word means corpse.

00:36:43.240 --> 00:36:44.360
 It means like nothing's moving.

00:36:44.460 --> 00:36:44.860
 We're dead,

00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:45.380
 spiritually.

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:46.840
 And so,

00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:49.000
 what Jesus does is he calls us,

00:36:50.100 --> 00:36:50.320
 well,

00:36:50.720 --> 00:36:51.500
 like Lazarus,

00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:51.740
 right?

00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:52.380
 Lazarus,

00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:53.059
 come out.

00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.539
 Like a supernatural power that brings us from death to life.

00:36:58.539 --> 00:37:02.619
 And the Holy Spirit regenerates our dead soul,

00:37:02.759 --> 00:37:03.699
 makes us alive,

00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.360
 so that faith is the outcome of that new birth.

00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:09.039
 Does that make sense?

00:37:09.179 --> 00:37:09.340
 Like,

00:37:09.739 --> 00:37:10.940
 like the air you breathe,

00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:11.940
 if you come back alive,

00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.539
 like faith is like the air we breathe when our souls are brought back to life.

00:37:16.179 --> 00:37:16.619
 And,

00:37:16.739 --> 00:37:19.199
 and then we will choose Christ.

00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:19.679
 Like,

00:37:19.759 --> 00:37:20.619
 like it's,

00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:21.039
 not again,

00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:21.320
 not,

00:37:21.380 --> 00:37:21.900
 not if,

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:22.139
 it's,

00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:22.320
 it's,

00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:22.820
 we will.

00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:23.380
 Um,

00:37:23.940 --> 00:37:26.140
 he's given us life and given us,

00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:27.900
 given us faith to believe.

00:37:28.200 --> 00:37:29.600
 And that's why faith is a gift,

00:37:29.600 --> 00:37:31.820
 because you wouldn't have it unless he brought you back to life.

00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:33.720
 And I just keep thinking back in my mind,

00:37:33.780 --> 00:37:33.940
 like,

00:37:34.200 --> 00:37:34.400
 okay,

00:37:34.500 --> 00:37:34.800
 I need,

00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:35.400
 I need to,

00:37:35.620 --> 00:37:35.920
 like,

00:37:36.100 --> 00:37:36.420
 I need to,

00:37:36.420 --> 00:37:39.320
 I need to have scripture answers to this.

00:37:39.620 --> 00:37:39.880
 Mm-hmm.

00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:40.800
 So I have that,

00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:41.200
 you know,

00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:42.660
 now I need to back my mind.

00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:43.160
 Mm-hmm.

00:37:43.720 --> 00:37:43.980
 Yep.

00:37:44.340 --> 00:37:44.620
 Um,

00:37:44.820 --> 00:37:47.600
 I can try to make sure you got a printout from last time we were here.

00:37:47.860 --> 00:37:48.019
 Yeah.

00:37:49.460 --> 00:37:52.519
 Because we talk about how faith was given to us.

00:37:52.820 --> 00:37:53.680
 By God.

00:37:53.940 --> 00:37:54.160
 Um,

00:37:54.160 --> 00:37:56.900
 but it came after we were regenerated,

00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:58.500
 after we were born again and not,

00:37:58.559 --> 00:37:59.120
 not before.

00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:00.400
 Um,

00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:01.920
 so it's the outcome of,

00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:02.320
 of,

00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:02.740
 of,

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:03.059
 uh,

00:38:03.180 --> 00:38:04.280
 us being born again.

00:38:04.640 --> 00:38:05.260
 And yeah,

00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:05.880
 and in fact,

00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.740
 in that moment you do repent,

00:38:07.860 --> 00:38:08.420
 you do,

00:38:08.420 --> 00:38:09.280
 uh,

00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:09.680
 quote,

00:38:09.820 --> 00:38:10.559
 choose Christ,

00:38:10.980 --> 00:38:12.600
 but you're choosing him because he chose you.

00:38:12.680 --> 00:38:13.180
 Does that make sense?

00:38:13.240 --> 00:38:13.760
 It's like you're,

00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.260
 you're being who you are at that point,

00:38:16.260 --> 00:38:16.880
 which is a,

00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:18.420
 a newly saved believer.

00:38:18.420 --> 00:38:18.720
 Yeah.

00:38:18.820 --> 00:38:19.740
 So many churches are like,

00:38:19.820 --> 00:38:20.820
 choose Jesus.

00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:21.940
 One church.

00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:22.940
 It's okay to say that.

00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:23.280
 Yeah.

00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:23.880
 Yeah.

00:38:24.019 --> 00:38:24.240
 Yeah.

00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:24.840
 In a sense,

00:38:24.900 --> 00:38:25.480
 they may like,

00:38:25.619 --> 00:38:26.639
 you choose him,

00:38:26.740 --> 00:38:27.139
 but like,

00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:28.760
 it could get the wrong meaning.

00:38:29.139 --> 00:38:29.380
 Mm-hmm.

00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:29.700
 Like,

00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:30.539
 one church,

00:38:30.619 --> 00:38:31.619
 they put up this whole thing,

00:38:31.700 --> 00:38:31.860
 like,

00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:32.680
 the train thing,

00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:33.000
 it was like,

00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:34.059
 choose Jesus.

00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:35.019
 Oh,

00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:35.380
 well,

00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:36.019
 that's kind of like,

00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:36.980
 kind of making a very,

00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:37.320
 uh,

00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:38.799
 eternal weighty matter,

00:38:38.900 --> 00:38:39.539
 kind of lighthearted.

00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:40.159
 Um,

00:38:40.619 --> 00:38:41.320
 but yeah,

00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:42.320
 uh,

00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:42.900
 but no,

00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.659
 it is true because there are those,

00:38:45.860 --> 00:38:47.659
 those calls that go out to all people.

00:38:47.659 --> 00:38:47.900
 Like,

00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:48.099
 yes,

00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:48.739
 come to Christ,

00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:49.440
 choose life.

00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:49.880
 Like that,

00:38:49.980 --> 00:38:51.579
 that's real stuff.

00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:52.259
 So,

00:38:52.259 --> 00:38:53.519
 um,

00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:56.500
 but just knowing in the end that if we do in fact get there,

00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:58.579
 that we realize it was God who got us there,

00:38:58.579 --> 00:38:59.639
 um,

00:38:59.659 --> 00:39:00.559
 is what we kind of see.

00:39:00.900 --> 00:39:01.059
 So,

00:39:02.019 --> 00:39:02.480
 so,

00:39:02.619 --> 00:39:02.880
 uh,

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:04.660
 so here's a,

00:39:04.740 --> 00:39:05.740
 here's a question now,

00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:06.039
 like,

00:39:06.099 --> 00:39:07.099
 if you think about it this way.

00:39:10.640 --> 00:39:11.079
 Um,

00:39:11.160 --> 00:39:15.420
 so what we're talking about is assurance of salvation now.

00:39:16.099 --> 00:39:16.579
 Okay?

00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:18.539
 So we know that salvation is forever,

00:39:18.640 --> 00:39:18.860
 right?

00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:19.900
 If God saves us,

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:21.280
 it's permanent,

00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:22.300
 it's not going anywhere.

00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:24.140
 But assurance,

00:39:24.860 --> 00:39:25.380
 uh,

00:39:25.380 --> 00:39:27.460
 which I found this really interesting is the Greek word,

00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:27.880
 um,

00:39:28.099 --> 00:39:28.559
 patho.

00:39:28.940 --> 00:39:30.599
 And it means to soothe,

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.220
 to persuade,

00:39:32.219 --> 00:39:33.579
 to pacify,

00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:35.399
 or to tranquilize.

00:39:35.399 --> 00:39:36.219
 Pretty interesting.

00:39:38.279 --> 00:39:38.919
 So,

00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:40.439
 it's an internal,

00:39:40.739 --> 00:39:41.959
 conscious confidence

00:39:41.959 --> 00:39:46.980
 that we are truly in right relationship with God through Christ.

00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:49.699
 This confidence we may have

00:39:49.699 --> 00:39:52.839
 is based upon certain evidences in our lives

00:39:52.839 --> 00:39:54.500
 that we are truly born again,

00:39:54.980 --> 00:39:55.339
 justified,

00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:56.919
 and adopted into God's family.

00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:57.960
 thus,

00:39:58.099 --> 00:40:01.099
 will persevere as a Christian until the end of our lives

00:40:01.099 --> 00:40:03.519
 and be eternally saved.

00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:04.900
 Right?

00:40:05.019 --> 00:40:05.240
 So,

00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.480
 assurance is the ability to know

00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.019
 with confidence one is saved

00:40:10.019 --> 00:40:12.579
 and to enjoy that salvation.

00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:14.760
 Here's what's important too.

00:40:15.019 --> 00:40:16.940
 Assurance of salvation is not

00:40:16.940 --> 00:40:18.220
 essential

00:40:18.220 --> 00:40:21.180
 for an individual to be saved,

00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:24.059
 but critical to his or her peace,

00:40:24.179 --> 00:40:24.539
 confidence,

00:40:24.739 --> 00:40:25.599
 and joy in this life.

00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:25.779
 So,

00:40:25.799 --> 00:40:26.339
 meaning like,

00:40:26.799 --> 00:40:28.379
 there are some true believers out there

00:40:28.379 --> 00:40:29.539
 who always doubt.

00:40:29.759 --> 00:40:30.319
 They don't know

00:40:30.319 --> 00:40:31.159
 and they're unsure.

00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:32.239
 And,

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:33.539
 but what God is trying to say is,

00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:33.639
 hey,

00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:34.460
 I want you to know

00:40:34.460 --> 00:40:36.960
 so that you can have,

00:40:37.099 --> 00:40:37.960
 uh,

00:40:38.019 --> 00:40:38.279
 again,

00:40:38.379 --> 00:40:39.799
 joy and peace and confidence

00:40:39.799 --> 00:40:41.059
 in this life.

00:40:42.019 --> 00:40:42.419
 Um,

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:42.719
 so,

00:40:42.799 --> 00:40:43.500
 not a minute ago,

00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:44.419
 but Hebrews 6,

00:40:45.219 --> 00:40:45.519
 he says,

00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.079
 we desire each of you

00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:48.820
 to show the same earnestness

00:40:48.820 --> 00:40:50.940
 to have full assurance of hope

00:40:50.940 --> 00:40:52.079
 until the end

00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.519
 so that you may not be sluggish,

00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:56.500
 but imitators of those through faith

00:40:56.500 --> 00:40:59.019
 and patience inherit promises.

00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:00.420
 So,

00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:00.780
 that's,

00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:01.340
 that's one,

00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:02.179
 one place.

00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:03.380
 Um,

00:41:03.380 --> 00:41:05.159
 and talking about like coming to God,

00:41:05.659 --> 00:41:06.119
 um,

00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.280
 into his presence with confidence

00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.500
 because of what Christ has done.

00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:11.440
 Verse 22,

00:41:11.860 --> 00:41:13.900
 let us draw near with a true heart

00:41:13.900 --> 00:41:15.420
 and full assurance of faith.

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:17.579
 With our hearts sprinkled clean

00:41:17.579 --> 00:41:19.519
 from an evil conscience

00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.300
 and our bodies washed with pure water.

00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:22.619
 Okay?

00:41:23.259 --> 00:41:24.539
 But here's just a question.

00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:26.119
 Do you think that

00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:27.860
 the New Testament writers

00:41:27.860 --> 00:41:29.139
 would even use words

00:41:29.139 --> 00:41:31.039
 like joy,

00:41:32.179 --> 00:41:32.960
 unspeakable,

00:41:34.259 --> 00:41:34.579
 uh,

00:41:34.659 --> 00:41:35.139
 peace,

00:41:36.219 --> 00:41:36.639
 um,

00:41:36.759 --> 00:41:37.280
 confidence?

00:41:38.179 --> 00:41:39.579
 Do you think they would ever use

00:41:39.579 --> 00:41:40.420
 any of those words

00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:41.320
 if you could lose it?

00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:43.739
 Does that make any sense?

00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.500
 Those words just wouldn't exist.

00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:45.759
 It's not.

00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:46.059
 It's like,

00:41:46.099 --> 00:41:46.199
 no,

00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.579
 you can actually be at peace with God.

00:41:48.659 --> 00:41:49.699
 You actually can know it.

00:41:49.820 --> 00:41:51.820
 The Bible's not wishy like that.

00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:52.400
 No.

00:41:53.659 --> 00:41:54.099
 No,

00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:54.780
 it's not.

00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.179
 So,

00:41:56.019 --> 00:41:57.039
 so meaning like

00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.019
 those words

00:41:59.019 --> 00:41:59.900
 are there

00:41:59.900 --> 00:42:00.800
 because you actually

00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:01.500
 can know

00:42:01.500 --> 00:42:02.719
 if you are saved or not.

00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:03.920
 And,

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.139
 um,

00:42:05.139 --> 00:42:05.599
 but again,

00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:05.599


00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:06.359
 a lot of people

00:42:06.359 --> 00:42:08.000
 don't have that assurance.

00:42:08.139 --> 00:42:08.579
 They struggle

00:42:08.579 --> 00:42:09.579
 with it.

00:42:09.819 --> 00:42:10.039
 Uh,

00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:11.059
 so again,

00:42:11.059 --> 00:42:12.319
 I mentioned Spurgeon earlier.

00:42:12.319 --> 00:42:13.039
 This is another

00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:14.379
 quote from him,

00:42:14.379 --> 00:42:16.079
 but check this verse out

00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:16.900
 in Isaiah 32.

00:42:17.859 --> 00:42:18.879
 So if we are

00:42:18.879 --> 00:42:19.619
 saved,

00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:19.879
 right,

00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:20.900
 we are justified.

00:42:20.900 --> 00:42:23.119
 We are made right with God.

00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:24.840
 He's given us

00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:25.760
 his righteousness,

00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:28.160
 his perfect righteousness

00:42:28.160 --> 00:42:29.840
 so that we can stand

00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:30.680
 before God.

00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:32.000
 All right?

00:42:32.220 --> 00:42:32.980
 So listen to this.

00:42:32.980 --> 00:42:34.300
 the effect of righteousness

00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:35.579
 will be peace

00:42:35.579 --> 00:42:37.059
 and the result

00:42:37.059 --> 00:42:37.760
 of righteousness,

00:42:38.059 --> 00:42:38.760
 quietness

00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.659
 and confident trust,

00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:41.659
 assurance forever.

00:42:41.820 --> 00:42:42.500
 So meaning like

00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:44.039
 if in fact

00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.599
 we have Christ's righteousness,

00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:47.980
 the result of that

00:42:47.980 --> 00:42:49.159
 and awareness of that

00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:50.420
 will bring peace,

00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:52.179
 trust,

00:42:52.260 --> 00:42:52.840
 and assurance.

00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:55.019
 So that's the outcome

00:42:55.019 --> 00:42:57.579
 if we are made right with God.

00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:58.599
 And then I love this.

00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.699
 I love this quote.

00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:02.300
 Enjoy it.

00:43:02.980 --> 00:43:04.539
 You will not be saved

00:43:04.539 --> 00:43:05.340
 by feeling

00:43:05.340 --> 00:43:06.820
 that Christ died for you.

00:43:07.380 --> 00:43:08.019
 Isn't that great?

00:43:09.619 --> 00:43:11.159
 If there is a lifeboat

00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:12.699
 and some poor man

00:43:12.699 --> 00:43:13.760
 is ready to drown

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.800
 and some strong arm,

00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:17.820
 strong hand,

00:43:17.860 --> 00:43:18.199
 excuse me,

00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:19.000
 rescues him,

00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.900
 when he comes to himself

00:43:20.900 --> 00:43:21.740
 he realizes

00:43:21.740 --> 00:43:23.039
 that he is in the lifeboat.

00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:25.059
 But it is not

00:43:25.059 --> 00:43:25.980
 the realizing

00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:27.420
 that he is in the lifeboat

00:43:27.420 --> 00:43:28.300
 that saves him.

00:43:28.579 --> 00:43:29.460
 It's the lifeboat.

00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:30.860
 So it is

00:43:30.860 --> 00:43:32.039
 that Christ saves the sinner

00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:33.500
 not the sinner's feelings.

00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:34.719
 Ah,

00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:35.420
 I love that.

00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:35.779
 Like,

00:43:36.340 --> 00:43:36.619
 yeah,

00:43:36.860 --> 00:43:37.900
 like it's actually the fact

00:43:37.900 --> 00:43:38.840
 that you've been saved,

00:43:38.940 --> 00:43:40.519
 not I feel like I am.

00:43:40.539 --> 00:43:40.980
 I still feel like

00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:41.759
 I'm spitting up water

00:43:41.759 --> 00:43:42.519
 right now, right?

00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:43.420
 But,

00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:44.659
 but that's

00:43:44.659 --> 00:43:46.179
 a very cool

00:43:46.179 --> 00:43:47.099
 connection.

00:43:47.099 --> 00:43:48.539
 so,

00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:51.019
 but back to

00:43:51.019 --> 00:43:52.059
 the idea of like

00:43:52.059 --> 00:43:52.900
 falling away,

00:43:53.779 --> 00:43:54.659
 I think John MacArthur

00:43:54.659 --> 00:43:55.420
 said like it's

00:43:55.420 --> 00:43:56.619
 possible for some

00:43:56.619 --> 00:43:57.519
 people to be

00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:59.799
 not a part of the vine,

00:43:59.960 --> 00:44:00.819
 meaning the church,

00:44:01.059 --> 00:44:02.500
 but parasites on the vine

00:44:02.500 --> 00:44:03.480
 is what he actually said.

00:44:04.319 --> 00:44:04.639
 Um,

00:44:04.699 --> 00:44:05.480
 meaning that they're

00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:06.779
 enjoying things

00:44:06.779 --> 00:44:07.420
 from the vine,

00:44:07.500 --> 00:44:08.400
 but they're not really

00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:09.420
 a part of the vine.

00:44:10.179 --> 00:44:10.619
 And,

00:44:10.619 --> 00:44:11.319
 uh,

00:44:12.219 --> 00:44:12.960
 MacArthur did.

00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:14.619
 In one of his books

00:44:14.619 --> 00:44:15.480
 about assurance

00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.119
 of salvation.

00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:16.739
 Uh,

00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:18.059
 so,

00:44:19.380 --> 00:44:20.639
 and getting to this,

00:44:20.699 --> 00:44:21.159
 this is something

00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:22.199
 Matthew Henry said

00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:22.599
 likewise,

00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:23.059
 but,

00:44:23.659 --> 00:44:24.279
 about falling away.

00:44:24.319 --> 00:44:25.019
 The humble sinner

00:44:25.019 --> 00:44:25.980
 who pleads guilty

00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:26.839
 and cries for mercy

00:44:26.839 --> 00:44:28.799
 can have no ground

00:44:28.799 --> 00:44:30.559
 from this passage,

00:44:30.619 --> 00:44:31.079
 meaning the one

00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:31.799
 in Hebrews 6,

00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:33.079
 to be discouraged.

00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:34.900
 Whatever his conscience

00:44:34.900 --> 00:44:35.839
 may accuse him of,

00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.839
 nor does he prove

00:44:36.839 --> 00:44:38.039
 that anyone

00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:38.779
 who has made

00:44:38.779 --> 00:44:39.779
 new creature

00:44:39.779 --> 00:44:40.519
 in Christ

00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:41.819
 ever becomes

00:44:41.819 --> 00:44:42.900
 final apostate

00:44:42.900 --> 00:44:43.359
 from him.

00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.539
 believers not only

00:44:45.539 --> 00:44:46.160
 taste,

00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:47.320
 that's what that word

00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:47.579
 said,

00:44:47.640 --> 00:44:47.800
 right?

00:44:47.860 --> 00:44:48.200
 In Hebrews,

00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:49.120
 not only taste

00:44:49.120 --> 00:44:50.039
 of the word of God,

00:44:50.500 --> 00:44:51.700
 but they drink it in.

00:44:52.640 --> 00:44:54.380
 And this fruitful field

00:44:54.380 --> 00:44:54.980
 or garden

00:44:54.980 --> 00:44:55.980
 receives the blessing.

00:44:56.900 --> 00:44:56.900


00:44:57.019 --> 00:44:58.380
 but the merely

00:44:58.380 --> 00:44:59.400
 nominal Christian

00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.039
 continuing unfruitful

00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:02.460
 under the means

00:45:02.460 --> 00:45:02.980
 of grace

00:45:02.980 --> 00:45:04.000
 or producing nothing

00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:04.820
 but deceit

00:45:04.820 --> 00:45:05.720
 and selfishness

00:45:05.720 --> 00:45:06.579
 was,

00:45:06.680 --> 00:45:07.700
 was near the awful

00:45:07.700 --> 00:45:09.240
 state above described,

00:45:09.640 --> 00:45:10.640
 meaning Hebrews 6,

00:45:11.240 --> 00:45:12.099
 and the everlasting

00:45:12.099 --> 00:45:13.159
 misery was,

00:45:13.279 --> 00:45:14.539
 was the end

00:45:14.539 --> 00:45:15.819
 reserved for him.

00:45:16.619 --> 00:45:17.059
 So,

00:45:18.059 --> 00:45:18.679
 um,

00:45:18.980 --> 00:45:20.360
 so here's another thing.

00:45:21.099 --> 00:45:21.579
 Uh,

00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:21.880
 I,

00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:22.739
 I grew up

00:45:22.739 --> 00:45:24.199
 hearing this,

00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:24.739
 and there's a lot

00:45:24.739 --> 00:45:25.239
 of people who meant

00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:25.579
 well,

00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:26.259
 so I'm not like

00:45:26.259 --> 00:45:26.960
 attacking that.

00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:27.440
 It's just something

00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:28.339
 I'll never say

00:45:28.339 --> 00:45:29.259
 personally,

00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:29.719
 but,

00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:31.039
 um,

00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:32.500
 so I,

00:45:32.539 --> 00:45:33.860
 I might have been

00:45:33.860 --> 00:45:35.019
 saved when I was 13,

00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:35.579
 maybe.

00:45:36.099 --> 00:45:36.539
 Uh,

00:45:36.539 --> 00:45:37.139
 I was baptized

00:45:37.139 --> 00:45:38.099
 when I was 13.

00:45:38.819 --> 00:45:39.719
 I did understand

00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:40.259
 the gospel,

00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:41.839
 um,

00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.779
 but I,

00:45:43.779 --> 00:45:44.739
 I kind of was like

00:45:44.739 --> 00:45:45.639
 one of the holdouts,

00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.059
 like my two buddies

00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:47.779
 had been baptized,

00:45:47.779 --> 00:45:49.659
 and I was kind of

00:45:49.659 --> 00:45:50.400
 getting looks like

00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:50.960
 the rebel who

00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:52.039
 wasn't baptized yet,

00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:52.779
 um,

00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:54.659
 and my older brother

00:45:54.659 --> 00:45:55.599
 had been baptized,

00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:56.759
 and so I was like,

00:45:57.259 --> 00:45:57.559
 man,

00:45:57.619 --> 00:45:58.259
 I just need to get it

00:45:58.259 --> 00:45:58.539
 done,

00:45:58.539 --> 00:46:00.139
 and I kind of felt

00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:01.299
 that peer pressure

00:46:01.299 --> 00:46:02.599
 almost just to do it.

00:46:03.099 --> 00:46:03.480
 I don't think my,

00:46:03.539 --> 00:46:04.659
 my parents put that

00:46:04.659 --> 00:46:05.000
 on me,

00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:05.719
 I think it was just

00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:07.259
 me putting it on myself,

00:46:07.259 --> 00:46:09.480
 and kind of being like,

00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:09.899
 you know,

00:46:11.219 --> 00:46:11.579
 um,

00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:12.559
 tired of being the one

00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:13.419
 guy to raise his hand,

00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:13.639
 and be like,

00:46:13.659 --> 00:46:13.799
 yeah,

00:46:13.819 --> 00:46:14.899
 I haven't been baptized yet,

00:46:14.939 --> 00:46:16.579
 so I was baptized,

00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:18.519
 and so when I was 13,

00:46:19.219 --> 00:46:19.619
 uh,

00:46:19.619 --> 00:46:20.919
 and then from that point on,

00:46:20.959 --> 00:46:21.859
 I just went on to live

00:46:21.859 --> 00:46:23.159
 in the world for many years,

00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:23.739
 like all the way up

00:46:23.739 --> 00:46:24.500
 until I was like maybe

00:46:24.500 --> 00:46:26.419
 18,

00:46:27.259 --> 00:46:28.419
 and I just

00:46:28.419 --> 00:46:30.759
 pursued all the things

00:46:30.759 --> 00:46:31.319
 of the flesh,

00:46:31.439 --> 00:46:31.739
 you know,

00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:32.459
 and,

00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:33.919
 but I still went to church

00:46:33.919 --> 00:46:34.439
 on Sunday,

00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:34.980
 I still,

00:46:35.500 --> 00:46:35.740
 quote,

00:46:35.780 --> 00:46:36.460
 did the right thing,

00:46:36.500 --> 00:46:37.340
 and something did not

00:46:37.340 --> 00:46:38.019
 feel right,

00:46:38.099 --> 00:46:38.920
 I remember just being like,

00:46:38.940 --> 00:46:40.619
 this can't be consistent,

00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:41.240
 you know,

00:46:41.720 --> 00:46:42.780
 so one of two things

00:46:42.780 --> 00:46:43.059
 happened,

00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:44.240
 one was I never was

00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:45.079
 saved to begin with,

00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:46.039
 and,

00:46:46.099 --> 00:46:47.179
 and when God used my

00:46:47.179 --> 00:46:48.940
 suffering and my trials

00:46:48.940 --> 00:46:50.000
 to kind of bring in my feet

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:51.000
 when I was 18,

00:46:51.740 --> 00:46:52.559
 then it was real,

00:46:53.300 --> 00:46:53.980
 maybe,

00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:54.880
 um,

00:46:55.539 --> 00:46:56.880
 or I just looked around me

00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:57.700
 and I was saved,

00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:58.360
 I looked around me

00:46:58.360 --> 00:46:58.920
 at my brother

00:46:58.920 --> 00:46:59.920
 and my other friends

00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:00.380
 who were just still

00:47:00.380 --> 00:47:01.139
 living like the devil,

00:47:01.220 --> 00:47:01.559
 and I just kind of

00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:02.159
 thought it was normal,

00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:02.539
 like,

00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:03.619
 I guess it was just

00:47:03.619 --> 00:47:04.099
 what we do,

00:47:04.099 --> 00:47:04.860
 like we're saved

00:47:04.860 --> 00:47:06.380
 and when I die,

00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:06.980
 I'll go to heaven,

00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:07.599
 you know,

00:47:07.699 --> 00:47:09.960
 but I guess I just,

00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:10.279
 you know,

00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:11.920
 it was about the next life,

00:47:11.980 --> 00:47:12.799
 not this life,

00:47:12.980 --> 00:47:14.440
 I might have thought that,

00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:15.699
 but the point is,

00:47:15.739 --> 00:47:16.639
 I don't have to figure it out

00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:17.460
 because I know he did it,

00:47:17.460 --> 00:47:17.659
 right,

00:47:17.699 --> 00:47:18.980
 like I know I'm alive

00:47:18.980 --> 00:47:19.480
 right now,

00:47:19.819 --> 00:47:20.659
 kind of idea,

00:47:21.319 --> 00:47:22.599
 but I was told

00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.500
 by many people,

00:47:24.860 --> 00:47:25.059
 uh,

00:47:25.860 --> 00:47:27.079
 like if God saved you,

00:47:27.139 --> 00:47:27.299
 don't,

00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:27.980
 don't doubt it,

00:47:28.139 --> 00:47:29.019
 like never doubt it,

00:47:29.019 --> 00:47:29.519
 you know,

00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:30.960
 like if he saved you,

00:47:31.019 --> 00:47:32.079
 like don't ever question it,

00:47:32.780 --> 00:47:33.199
 um,

00:47:33.300 --> 00:47:34.019
 and,

00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.380
 so I didn't,

00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.280
 and I remember,

00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:38.659
 uh,

00:47:39.340 --> 00:47:40.219
 years later,

00:47:41.179 --> 00:47:41.659
 um,

00:47:42.099 --> 00:47:44.559
 basically seeing the name

00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:45.440
 of a book called,

00:47:45.500 --> 00:47:45.800
 uh,

00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.820
 I never knew you,

00:47:50.560 --> 00:47:52.120
 the tragedy of religion

00:47:52.120 --> 00:47:53.200
 without relationship,

00:47:53.620 --> 00:47:54.220
 and I was like,

00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:54.519
 huh,

00:47:55.240 --> 00:47:56.039
 that's scary,

00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:56.900
 and I,

00:47:56.900 --> 00:47:57.980
 I started reading about it,

00:47:57.980 --> 00:47:58.220
 and I'm like,

00:47:58.260 --> 00:47:58.880
 oh my goodness,

00:47:58.980 --> 00:47:59.860
 it actually is true

00:47:59.860 --> 00:48:01.519
 that a lot of people

00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:02.200
 could think that they're

00:48:02.200 --> 00:48:03.220
 in the faith and not be,

00:48:04.140 --> 00:48:04.900
 and then I like look back

00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:05.400
 at my life,

00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:05.620
 I'm like,

00:48:05.680 --> 00:48:05.840
 man,

00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:06.860
 I may not have been,

00:48:07.120 --> 00:48:08.500
 and I remember having

00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:09.140
 that thought,

00:48:09.720 --> 00:48:10.700
 and I remember even

00:48:10.700 --> 00:48:11.480
 talking to my brother

00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:11.860
 about it,

00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:12.180
 like Lee,

00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:12.480
 like,

00:48:13.700 --> 00:48:14.480
 I don't know,

00:48:14.600 --> 00:48:14.700
 like,

00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:15.019
 like,

00:48:15.019 --> 00:48:15.820
 do you think what

00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:16.719
 happened to you is real,

00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:17.219
 because honestly,

00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:17.860
 looking at your life,

00:48:17.900 --> 00:48:18.480
 I don't see it,

00:48:19.259 --> 00:48:19.639
 and,

00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:20.159
 you know,

00:48:20.179 --> 00:48:20.659
 and he was like,

00:48:21.619 --> 00:48:22.059
 you know what,

00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:22.480
 you're right,

00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:23.079
 that makes sense,

00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:24.139
 if God actually saved me,

00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:24.519
 then there would be

00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:25.300
 some evidence of that,

00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:26.559
 I'm not saved,

00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:27.340
 oh well,

00:48:27.940 --> 00:48:28.719
 that's kind of like his

00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:30.119
 response,

00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:30.599
 just like,

00:48:31.659 --> 00:48:32.719
 you're probably right,

00:48:32.759 --> 00:48:33.000
 he's like saying,

00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:33.820
 that makes sense,

00:48:34.460 --> 00:48:34.719
 granted,

00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:35.719
 but I guess I'm just

00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:36.139
 not there,

00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:37.139
 you know,

00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:37.480
 I was like,

00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:37.619
 well,

00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:38.940
 freaking get there then,

00:48:39.019 --> 00:48:39.239
 man,

00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:39.539
 let's,

00:48:39.980 --> 00:48:40.840
 let's talk about it,

00:48:40.900 --> 00:48:41.179
 you know,

00:48:41.179 --> 00:48:41.480
 but,

00:48:42.139 --> 00:48:42.619
 don't really know

00:48:42.619 --> 00:48:43.440
 where he is today,

00:48:43.539 --> 00:48:43.960
 he made some,

00:48:45.019 --> 00:48:46.800
 but anyway,

00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:47.500
 I was just told

00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:48.480
 never to doubt it,

00:48:48.900 --> 00:48:50.559
 and that could have been

00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:51.820
 tragedy for me,

00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:53.059
 if God had not,

00:48:53.179 --> 00:48:53.340
 again,

00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:54.619
 intervened sovereignly,

00:48:55.500 --> 00:48:55.759
 but,

00:48:56.699 --> 00:48:59.079
 check this out,

00:48:59.219 --> 00:48:59.400
 right,

00:48:59.500 --> 00:48:59.920
 examine,

00:49:00.259 --> 00:49:00.780
 make certain,

00:49:01.579 --> 00:49:02.500
 professing believers

00:49:02.500 --> 00:49:03.920
 should be encouraged

00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.860
 to evaluate themselves

00:49:05.860 --> 00:49:06.940
 to see if they are

00:49:06.940 --> 00:49:08.079
 truly in the faith,

00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:09.699
 right,

00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:09.900
 now,

00:49:09.980 --> 00:49:10.099
 so,

00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:11.059
 stop for a second,

00:49:11.139 --> 00:49:11.599
 be careful,

00:49:11.759 --> 00:49:11.900
 look,

00:49:11.940 --> 00:49:12.639
 if you just do a lot of,

00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:12.800
 like,

00:49:12.860 --> 00:49:13.639
 introspective,

00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:15.579
 hashing,

00:49:15.699 --> 00:49:16.539
 you'll never feel

00:49:16.539 --> 00:49:17.119
 like you're saved,

00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:18.000
 like,

00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:18.339
 if you just,

00:49:18.420 --> 00:49:18.500
 like,

00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:19.279
 think about every bad

00:49:19.279 --> 00:49:20.019
 thing you've done,

00:49:20.219 --> 00:49:21.119
 you're never going

00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:21.579
 to get there,

00:49:22.699 --> 00:49:23.940
 but this examination

00:49:23.940 --> 00:49:24.759
 should be done

00:49:24.759 --> 00:49:25.339
 carefully

00:49:25.339 --> 00:49:26.599
 through the means

00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:27.119
 of searching

00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:28.039
 of the scripture,

00:49:28.779 --> 00:49:29.099
 prayer,

00:49:29.279 --> 00:49:30.099
 and counsel

00:49:30.099 --> 00:49:30.960
 of the local church,

00:49:31.059 --> 00:49:31.259
 so,

00:49:31.819 --> 00:49:32.719
 being a part of the body

00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:33.639
 is critical for people

00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:33.819
 to say,

00:49:33.839 --> 00:49:33.920
 hey,

00:49:33.980 --> 00:49:35.039
 I see grace in your life,

00:49:35.099 --> 00:49:35.239
 like,

00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:35.900
 I see God at work

00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:36.440
 in your life,

00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.480
 we think that you are

00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:39.219
 in the faith,

00:49:40.279 --> 00:49:40.599
 right,

00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:41.440
 if their faith

00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:42.779
 be true and genuine,

00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:44.159
 then it should be

00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:44.839
 evidenced through

00:49:44.839 --> 00:49:45.380
 the showing

00:49:45.380 --> 00:49:46.099
 of the fruits

00:49:46.099 --> 00:49:46.860
 of love

00:49:46.860 --> 00:49:47.480
 and gracious

00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:48.039
 obedience

00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:48.880
 towards God,

00:49:49.699 --> 00:49:50.400
 the inward

00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:50.980
 transformation

00:49:50.980 --> 00:49:51.860
 of believers

00:49:51.860 --> 00:49:52.940
 by God's grace

00:49:52.940 --> 00:49:54.440
 leads to an outward

00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:55.219
 demonstration

00:49:55.219 --> 00:49:56.839
 of good works,

00:49:56.980 --> 00:49:58.219
 which are the evidence

00:49:58.219 --> 00:49:58.759
 of true,

00:49:58.900 --> 00:49:59.679
 saving faith,

00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:01.440
 so,

00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:02.339
 2 Corinthians here

00:50:02.339 --> 00:50:02.960
 is one of those verses

00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:03.219
 like,

00:50:03.319 --> 00:50:03.539
 blah,

00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:04.440
 I've never seen that

00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:04.759
 before,

00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:05.940
 but,

00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:07.880
 Paul says,

00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:09.119
 examine yourselves

00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:10.440
 to see whether or not

00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:11.800
 you are in the faith,

00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:13.780
 test yourselves,

00:50:14.700 --> 00:50:15.579
 already not realize

00:50:15.579 --> 00:50:16.820
 this is about yourselves,

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:17.880
 that Jesus Christ

00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:18.660
 is in you,

00:50:19.300 --> 00:50:20.300
 unless indeed

00:50:20.300 --> 00:50:21.039
 you fail

00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.000
 to meet the test,

00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.039
 I hope you will find out

00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:25.160
 that we have not

00:50:25.160 --> 00:50:26.260
 failed the test,

00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:27.160
 and see,

00:50:27.220 --> 00:50:28.500
 I was just never told that,

00:50:28.940 --> 00:50:30.340
 and I think

00:50:30.340 --> 00:50:31.740
 when I was saved,

00:50:31.820 --> 00:50:32.619
 I just had a desire

00:50:32.619 --> 00:50:33.460
 to take everybody

00:50:33.460 --> 00:50:34.780
 that I thought

00:50:34.780 --> 00:50:35.340
 was a Christian,

00:50:35.420 --> 00:50:35.619
 but hey,

00:50:35.640 --> 00:50:36.420
 have you thought about this?

00:50:36.660 --> 00:50:36.860
 Like,

00:50:36.900 --> 00:50:37.400
 are you sure?

00:50:38.300 --> 00:50:38.700
 Because,

00:50:38.860 --> 00:50:39.619
 I was fooled

00:50:39.619 --> 00:50:40.360
 for many years,

00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:40.820
 and in fact,

00:50:40.860 --> 00:50:41.660
 it actually tells us

00:50:41.660 --> 00:50:43.720
 to think about it.

00:50:45.260 --> 00:50:46.519
 2 Peter 1.10

00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:47.380
 talks about election

00:50:47.380 --> 00:50:47.820
 right here.

00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:48.599
 Therefore,

00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:49.059
 brothers,

00:50:49.180 --> 00:50:50.039
 be all the more diligent

00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:50.720
 to confirm

00:50:50.720 --> 00:50:52.019
 your calling and election,

00:50:52.140 --> 00:50:52.559
 so basically,

00:50:52.720 --> 00:50:53.300
 make sure

00:50:53.300 --> 00:50:54.660
 you're saved.

00:50:55.420 --> 00:50:56.320
 For if you practice

00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:57.039
 these qualities,

00:50:57.200 --> 00:50:58.300
 you will never fail.

00:50:59.400 --> 00:50:59.539
 Alright,

00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:00.300
 so then it gets into

00:51:00.300 --> 00:51:00.940
 just basically,

00:51:01.220 --> 00:51:01.559
 like,

00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:02.940
 how the evidence

00:51:02.940 --> 00:51:03.840
 of a true believer

00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:05.019
 is a changed life,

00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:05.680
 good works,

00:51:06.740 --> 00:51:07.800
 religious affection,

00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:08.680
 like I just said a minute ago,

00:51:08.740 --> 00:51:10.099
 holy affections for God,

00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:11.300
 and so,

00:51:11.539 --> 00:51:13.579
 this idea that,

00:51:13.660 --> 00:51:13.800
 like,

00:51:13.820 --> 00:51:14.420
 it's impossible

00:51:14.420 --> 00:51:15.079
 for your life

00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.260
 to not be changed

00:51:16.260 --> 00:51:17.360
 if you actually are saved.

00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.740
 You can't just remain the same.

00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:21.320
 Even though that change

00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:22.059
 may be slow,

00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:23.380
 for some,

00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:24.300
 it's like lightning.

00:51:24.300 --> 00:51:24.720
 Like,

00:51:24.780 --> 00:51:25.300
 I've known guys

00:51:25.300 --> 00:51:25.420
 that,

00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:25.660
 like,

00:51:25.740 --> 00:51:27.000
 completely the next day

00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:27.960
 were just different people

00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.380
 and left the drinking,

00:51:30.539 --> 00:51:31.240
 left the partying,

00:51:31.340 --> 00:51:31.880
 left the women,

00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:32.340
 you know,

00:51:32.460 --> 00:51:35.300
 and just never were the same.

00:51:35.900 --> 00:51:36.220
 Others,

00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:37.160
 just a more gradual

00:51:37.160 --> 00:51:39.460
 road to sanctification.

00:51:40.740 --> 00:51:40.860
 But,

00:51:41.720 --> 00:51:43.780
 yeah,

00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:44.920
 any questions

00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:46.680
 or thoughts

00:51:46.680 --> 00:51:47.180
 on this?

00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:48.800
 I'm trying to bring out

00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:49.580
 different facets

00:51:49.580 --> 00:51:50.380
 that you see in the Bible.

00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:50.580
 Like,

00:51:50.600 --> 00:51:50.700
 yeah,

00:51:50.720 --> 00:51:51.820
 you are supposed to question it.

00:51:51.820 --> 00:51:53.480
 you can have assurance,

00:51:53.680 --> 00:51:54.080
 and yes,

00:51:54.420 --> 00:51:55.120
 there are some people

00:51:55.120 --> 00:51:55.780
 who are fooled,

00:51:56.420 --> 00:51:57.800
 even though that once you're saved,

00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:58.519
 you're saved forever.

00:51:59.740 --> 00:51:59.940
 So,

00:52:01.220 --> 00:52:05.480
 so here's a good quiz for you.

00:52:06.200 --> 00:52:08.220
 What book would you take somebody to

00:52:08.220 --> 00:52:10.220
 to read with them

00:52:10.220 --> 00:52:12.140
 if they were struggling

00:52:12.140 --> 00:52:13.340
 with assurance?

00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:13.840
 Or if they,

00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:16.100
 or if you really thought

00:52:16.100 --> 00:52:17.480
 this person probably wasn't a Christian,

00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:19.519
 but they said they were,

00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.219
 to the best of your discernment,

00:52:22.259 --> 00:52:23.420
 you wouldn't think that they were?

00:52:24.259 --> 00:52:24.500
 Like,

00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:25.340
 what book would you want

00:52:25.340 --> 00:52:26.139
 to read with them?

00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:26.820
 Bible.

00:52:28.019 --> 00:52:28.739
 Not the Quran?

00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:30.159
 True.

00:52:30.579 --> 00:52:30.759
 Yep.

00:52:32.139 --> 00:52:32.739
 First John.

00:52:33.420 --> 00:52:34.199
 Why First John?

00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:34.199


00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:34.199


00:52:39.539 --> 00:52:40.059
 Yep.

00:52:43.059 --> 00:52:43.460
 Yep,

00:52:43.539 --> 00:52:44.000
 that's true.

00:52:44.420 --> 00:52:44.579
 So,

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.039
 it is,

00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:48.059
 so that you will know,

00:52:48.059 --> 00:52:48.880
 right?

00:52:49.019 --> 00:52:50.000
 You will have confidence.

00:52:52.139 --> 00:52:52.579
 And,

00:52:52.739 --> 00:52:53.279
 so,

00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:54.159
 that's a great one.

00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:55.000
 I've actually used that

00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:56.299
 several times for people,

00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:56.619
 and,

00:52:57.619 --> 00:52:59.139
 one was one of my

00:52:59.139 --> 00:53:00.019
 baseball players

00:53:00.019 --> 00:53:00.759
 many years ago,

00:53:01.279 --> 00:53:01.940
 and,

00:53:02.019 --> 00:53:04.460
 I thought he was truly saved.

00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:06.179
 He got drafted,

00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:07.699
 he played for the Braves,

00:53:07.759 --> 00:53:07.940
 and,

00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:09.299
 the Pirates,

00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:09.880
 like two different

00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:10.759
 minor league teams.

00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:12.440
 then he didn't get

00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:13.640
 to the big league,

00:53:13.640 --> 00:53:14.620
 so he actually came back

00:53:14.620 --> 00:53:15.240
 to North Georgia,

00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:16.980
 and coached,

00:53:17.180 --> 00:53:18.240
 like with Cantrell,

00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:18.480
 like,

00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:18.700
 like,

00:53:18.740 --> 00:53:19.260
 grad assistant,

00:53:19.780 --> 00:53:20.320
 coaching.

00:53:20.600 --> 00:53:20.840
 And,

00:53:20.900 --> 00:53:21.600
 during that time,

00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:22.800
 like,

00:53:22.900 --> 00:53:23.900
 I asked him how I was doing,

00:53:23.980 --> 00:53:24.440
 he always was like,

00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:24.600
 yeah,

00:53:24.600 --> 00:53:25.540
 I'm doing pretty good,

00:53:25.580 --> 00:53:25.800
 you know,

00:53:25.820 --> 00:53:26.020
 just,

00:53:26.160 --> 00:53:27.180
 and,

00:53:27.180 --> 00:53:28.820
 and people would be like,

00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:29.160
 hey man,

00:53:29.200 --> 00:53:29.940
 you need to talk to him,

00:53:29.980 --> 00:53:30.780
 because he's like up there

00:53:30.780 --> 00:53:32.320
 at Johnny B's,

00:53:32.380 --> 00:53:33.620
 and he's getting sloshed,

00:53:33.700 --> 00:53:33.780
 and,

00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:35.860
 he got like in a pretty bad fight

00:53:35.860 --> 00:53:36.660
 with the guy the other guy

00:53:36.660 --> 00:53:37.600
 and broke the guy's nose,

00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:38.380
 and just like,

00:53:39.040 --> 00:53:39.360
 so I'm like,

00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:39.720
 oh yeah,

00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:40.480
 he's good,

00:53:40.580 --> 00:53:40.840
 you know,

00:53:41.380 --> 00:53:41.940
 he's good.

00:53:42.500 --> 00:53:42.940
 And so,

00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:43.500
 I,

00:53:43.540 --> 00:53:45.700
 I had him over for breakfast,

00:53:45.820 --> 00:53:47.060
 and I gave him several chances

00:53:47.060 --> 00:53:47.820
 to come clean,

00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:49.019
 like over the span of like a month,

00:53:49.100 --> 00:53:49.340
 like,

00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:50.560
 how are you doing?

00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:51.320
 And,

00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:52.720
 he was just like,

00:53:53.300 --> 00:53:54.019
 I'm good man,

00:53:54.100 --> 00:53:54.260
 you know,

00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:54.500
 just,

00:53:55.060 --> 00:53:56.560
 not always the best,

00:53:56.660 --> 00:53:56.760
 you know,

00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:57.620
 I still have my struggles,

00:53:57.800 --> 00:53:58.480
 just that kind of like

00:53:58.480 --> 00:53:59.400
 general language.

00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:00.160
 So I'm like,

00:54:00.180 --> 00:54:00.280
 alright,

00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:00.660
 that's it.

00:54:00.820 --> 00:54:01.920
 So I had him over for breakfast,

00:54:02.060 --> 00:54:02.180
 I said,

00:54:02.240 --> 00:54:02.380
 alright,

00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:03.200
 steak and eggs man,

00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:03.819
 they come to my house,

00:54:04.399 --> 00:54:06.119
 and I said to him,

00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:08.099
 how are you doing?

00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:09.519
 One last chance,

00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:09.819
 you know,

00:54:09.879 --> 00:54:10.179
 like,

00:54:10.500 --> 00:54:10.719
 he's like,

00:54:10.739 --> 00:54:10.980
 yeah,

00:54:11.259 --> 00:54:12.599
 he wouldn't look me in the eye,

00:54:12.659 --> 00:54:12.980
 just kind of like,

00:54:13.019 --> 00:54:13.139
 yeah,

00:54:13.179 --> 00:54:14.259
 just kind of like,

00:54:14.319 --> 00:54:14.539
 you know,

00:54:14.859 --> 00:54:15.299
 doing the,

00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:16.679
 alright man,

00:54:16.739 --> 00:54:16.939
 look,

00:54:17.359 --> 00:54:18.019
 I love you,

00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:18.879
 you know I love you,

00:54:19.359 --> 00:54:20.399
 we've been through a lot together,

00:54:20.799 --> 00:54:22.719
 I know you're not doing okay.

00:54:23.359 --> 00:54:24.319
 And he just started bawling,

00:54:24.419 --> 00:54:24.559
 like,

00:54:24.619 --> 00:54:24.819
 nope,

00:54:24.980 --> 00:54:25.399
 I'm not.

00:54:25.579 --> 00:54:25.839
 Started,

00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:26.339
 you know,

00:54:26.339 --> 00:54:27.480
 just crying his eyes out,

00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:29.219
 and then he just said like,

00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:30.879
 um,

00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:31.319
 Michael,

00:54:31.339 --> 00:54:32.419
 what can I do to help you man?

00:54:32.460 --> 00:54:32.659
 He's like,

00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:32.779
 well,

00:54:32.780 --> 00:54:34.000
 can we just start meeting up again?

00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:34.519
 And,

00:54:35.260 --> 00:54:35.600
 yep,

00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:37.040
 so every week we had breakfast,

00:54:37.820 --> 00:54:39.300
 and we read through 1 John,

00:54:39.460 --> 00:54:40.519
 and about maybe,

00:54:41.300 --> 00:54:42.440
 through chapter 2,

00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:43.120
 I asked him,

00:54:43.240 --> 00:54:43.460
 like,

00:54:44.260 --> 00:54:44.620
 um,

00:54:44.780 --> 00:54:46.700
 there's a verse,

00:54:46.780 --> 00:54:46.960
 like,

00:54:47.019 --> 00:54:47.360
 brothers,

00:54:47.500 --> 00:54:47.840
 basically,

00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:48.260
 if we,

00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.220
 we see these things in our life,

00:54:50.260 --> 00:54:51.960
 we can have confidence before God.

00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:52.000
 God,

00:54:52.940 --> 00:54:53.220
 um,

00:54:53.220 --> 00:54:54.360
 where is this?

00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:57.500
 You might know what verse I'm talking about.

00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:01.460
 Here it is,

00:55:01.500 --> 00:55:01.639
 yeah.

00:55:02.059 --> 00:55:03.059
 1 John 3,

00:55:03.139 --> 00:55:03.559
 21,

00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:04.699
 Beloved,

00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:07.059
 if our heart does not condemn us,

00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.539
 we have confidence before God.

00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:10.860
 Right?

00:55:11.740 --> 00:55:12.519
 And I asked him,

00:55:12.539 --> 00:55:13.199
 how's your confidence?

00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:13.559
 He goes,

00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:14.079
 not good.

00:55:14.740 --> 00:55:15.119
 He's like,

00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:16.279
 I love the world,

00:55:16.279 --> 00:55:17.880
 and I love the things in the world.

00:55:18.460 --> 00:55:21.819
 I don't really want to obey God's commands.

00:55:22.059 --> 00:55:22.299
 Like,

00:55:22.839 --> 00:55:24.500
 I see sin in my life.

00:55:24.699 --> 00:55:24.759
 Like,

00:55:24.839 --> 00:55:25.960
 all these tests,

00:55:26.019 --> 00:55:26.519
 I'm failing,

00:55:26.739 --> 00:55:27.079
 basically.

00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:28.199
 And,

00:55:28.279 --> 00:55:32.340
 and then there's another one in there that talks about Christ's return.

00:55:33.619 --> 00:55:33.940
 And,

00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:35.259
 MacArthur actually said,

00:55:35.299 --> 00:55:35.920
 that's a good one.

00:55:35.980 --> 00:55:36.139
 Like,

00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:37.980
 do you eagerly await for Christ's return?

00:55:38.099 --> 00:55:38.299
 Like,

00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:39.579
 can't wait for it?

00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:40.840
 Like,

00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:42.000
 even though it makes me nervous,

00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:42.239
 like,

00:55:42.259 --> 00:55:43.099
 I'm excited for it,

00:55:43.099 --> 00:55:46.299
 and I can't wait for him to come back and clean up this mess and rescue me?

00:55:46.940 --> 00:55:47.500
 Or are you like,

00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:47.659
 oh,

00:55:47.699 --> 00:55:47.880
 no,

00:55:47.940 --> 00:55:48.099
 like,

00:55:48.099 --> 00:55:48.719
 I don't want that.

00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:49.159
 Like,

00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:49.420
 no.

00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:49.840
 Like,

00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:50.239
 what was,

00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:51.759
 how do you respond?

00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:52.599
 And he goes,

00:55:52.659 --> 00:55:54.599
 and I would be terrified if Christ came back.

00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:55.360
 That's like what he said.

00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:55.980
 And I was like,

00:55:56.380 --> 00:55:56.500
 oh,

00:55:56.500 --> 00:55:56.619
 man,

00:55:56.659 --> 00:55:56.819
 just,

00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:57.579
 stop.

00:55:57.779 --> 00:55:58.000
 Like,

00:55:58.759 --> 00:55:59.739
 just go to him right now.

00:55:59.779 --> 00:55:59.900
 Like,

00:55:59.900 --> 00:56:00.819
 I'm not going to pray a prayer with you.

00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:01.360
 I'm not going to like,

00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:01.579
 you know,

00:56:01.579 --> 00:56:02.099
 hold your hand.

00:56:02.139 --> 00:56:02.319
 But like,

00:56:02.319 --> 00:56:02.500
 look,

00:56:02.539 --> 00:56:03.239
 I'll pray with you.

00:56:03.460 --> 00:56:04.519
 But like,

00:56:04.759 --> 00:56:05.639
 just end it.

00:56:05.659 --> 00:56:06.799
 It can stop right now.

00:56:07.099 --> 00:56:07.279
 And,

00:56:07.279 --> 00:56:08.340
 I mean,

00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:09.840
 that happened just by reading 1 John.

00:56:09.900 --> 00:56:10.239
 And I think,

00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:11.099
 to my knowledge,

00:56:11.179 --> 00:56:11.279
 like,

00:56:11.299 --> 00:56:12.319
 he's doing very well now.

00:56:12.420 --> 00:56:12.759
 He's still,

00:56:12.900 --> 00:56:15.480
 he's a coach in the major leagues.

00:56:15.819 --> 00:56:15.900
 And,

00:56:15.900 --> 00:56:16.199
 uh,

00:56:17.500 --> 00:56:18.519
 um,

00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:20.440
 with the Astros.

00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.039
 So he's won a World Series now.

00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:23.360
 And,

00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:24.279
 I just,

00:56:24.340 --> 00:56:24.920
 just text him,

00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:25.039
 like,

00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:25.500
 stay humble,

00:56:25.619 --> 00:56:25.880
 man.

00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:26.119
 Like,

00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:27.920
 don't get your head big.

00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:28.119
 And,

00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:31.359
 but I think he's doing pretty well right now.

00:56:31.900 --> 00:56:32.099
 But yeah,

00:56:32.139 --> 00:56:34.839
 1 John is a powerful book to use for that very reason.

00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:36.819
 To examine yourself.

00:56:38.579 --> 00:56:38.980
 Um,

00:56:38.980 --> 00:56:40.960
 in closing,

00:56:41.099 --> 00:56:42.500
 you can tell I read a lot of Spurgeon for this.

00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:44.980
 Talking about Philippians 1,

00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:45.360
 6.

00:56:46.179 --> 00:56:47.840
 If our faith be of our own,

00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.260
 getting or making,

00:56:50.380 --> 00:56:51.199
 it will perish.

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.079
 And the sooner it goes,

00:56:53.139 --> 00:56:53.460
 the better.

00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:55.980
 But if our religion is a matter of God's giving,

00:56:56.619 --> 00:56:59.780
 we know that he shall never take back what he gives.

00:56:59.780 --> 00:57:00.880
 And that,

00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:04.080
 if he has commenced to work in us by his grace,

00:57:04.120 --> 00:57:05.760
 he will never leave it unfinished.

00:57:06.940 --> 00:57:07.120
 So,

00:57:07.180 --> 00:57:07.540
 meaning like,

00:57:07.580 --> 00:57:08.400
 if it started with you,

00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:09.300
 it could end with you.

00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:11.760
 But if it started with Christ,

00:57:11.860 --> 00:57:13.720
 it will finish with Christ.

00:57:13.820 --> 00:57:13.920
 Like,

00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.440
 he's going to carry you to the very end.

00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:17.600
 Um,

00:57:17.600 --> 00:57:17.980
 so I,

00:57:18.620 --> 00:57:19.800
 kind of like,

00:57:19.860 --> 00:57:21.160
 like that sort of in closing.

00:57:21.560 --> 00:57:21.840
 But,

00:57:22.460 --> 00:57:22.840
 um,

00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:26.920
 any other comments or questions?

00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:35.440
 That's fine.

00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:37.500
 Oh,

00:57:37.500 --> 00:57:38.059
 is there a verse?

00:57:46.600 --> 00:57:47.039
 Yeah.

00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:47.760
 Um,

00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:49.120
 James?

00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:53.280
 So,

00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:07.880
 so,

00:58:08.120 --> 00:58:08.800
 can you clarify?

00:58:09.140 --> 00:58:10.220
 I think I know what you're talking about.

00:58:10.300 --> 00:58:10.579
 Can you like,

00:58:10.640 --> 00:58:11.740
 maybe ask it a different way?

00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:14.480
 Does anybody understand what she's asking?

00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:16.240
 Or answer?

00:58:16.240 --> 00:58:16.240


00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:20.239
 We're called to help people come back to their faith.

00:58:20.439 --> 00:58:20.879
 And that's,

00:58:20.879 --> 00:58:21.179
 yep.

00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:23.119
 Yes,

00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:23.479
 it is.

00:58:23.500 --> 00:58:25.059
 These verses are really strong,

00:58:25.139 --> 00:58:27.339
 saying that it's impossible for them to come back.

00:58:27.839 --> 00:58:28.239
 Right.

00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:29.599
 Uh,

00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:30.199
 well,

00:58:30.279 --> 00:58:32.039
 I think what he's basically saying is if you,

00:58:32.179 --> 00:58:35.079
 if they ultimately don't come off that path,

00:58:35.339 --> 00:58:36.679
 it doesn't say don't pursue them.

00:58:36.759 --> 00:58:40.419
 It doesn't say seek them and continue to love them and chase them down.

00:58:40.859 --> 00:58:41.339
 So,

00:58:41.459 --> 00:58:44.899
 there's nothing there about the response of a believer to that person.

00:58:44.900 --> 00:58:44.940
 And,

00:58:45.420 --> 00:58:48.039
 because obviously we would still want to show them compassion.

00:58:48.180 --> 00:58:50.039
 If it was someone of our relatives or friends,

00:58:50.660 --> 00:58:52.039
 we would pursue them all the time,

00:58:52.059 --> 00:58:53.500
 even if they were rejecting Christ.

00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:54.619
 We would continue to do it.

00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.420
 We would continue to pray for them,

00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:56.820
 share,

00:58:56.940 --> 00:58:57.660
 share with them,

00:58:58.019 --> 00:58:59.680
 in hopes that they would come back.

00:58:59.680 --> 00:59:00.780
 But we don't know if they will.

00:59:01.539 --> 00:59:01.800
 Right?

00:59:01.900 --> 00:59:02.579
 We don't know.

00:59:03.160 --> 00:59:03.519
 But what he,

00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:04.660
 what he is saying though,

00:59:04.660 --> 00:59:06.460
 is if they continue down that road,

00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.039
 then there's no way.

00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:09.599
 Like,

00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:10.460
 because again,

00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:10.840
 like what,

00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:11.940
 what else are you going to tell them?

00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:14.840
 You've already shared the gospel and they already know it and they've rejected it.

00:59:14.900 --> 00:59:15.119
 They've,

00:59:15.380 --> 00:59:18.460
 there's not one more shred of truth that they need.

00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:18.820
 Like they,

00:59:18.900 --> 00:59:21.360
 they've been given everything and they basically just said,

00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:21.700
 no,

00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:22.480
 I don't want it.

00:59:22.500 --> 00:59:25.280
 And they continue to harden their hearts in sin.

00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:27.039
 So that's just,

00:59:27.160 --> 00:59:28.660
 that verse is just sort of a warning,

00:59:28.780 --> 00:59:29.019
 right?

00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:29.460
 Like,

00:59:29.460 --> 00:59:31.340
 if you are that person,

00:59:31.340 --> 00:59:32.320
 don't go that way,

00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.740
 but it doesn't say anything about the way we should look at those people.

00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:37.920
 We don't look at them and say,

00:59:38.059 --> 00:59:38.780
 well,

00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.280
 I guess they're just a victim of Hebrew six moving on.

00:59:41.340 --> 00:59:44.480
 Like we'll just continue to pursue them.

00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:44.920
 And,

00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:45.480
 uh,

00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:46.840
 come on.

00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:48.880
 And some can be brought to faith.

00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:49.199
 Some,

00:59:49.420 --> 00:59:50.920
 and some might be able to be saved.

00:59:51.539 --> 00:59:54.079
 Some of this goes back to your view of evangelism.

00:59:54.380 --> 00:59:54.699
 Mm hmm.

00:59:54.699 --> 00:59:54.980
 So,

00:59:55.740 --> 00:59:58.400
 if our goal in evangelism is to convince others,

00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.340
 and so by convincing them,

01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:01.420
 they turn to Christ,

01:00:01.860 --> 01:00:02.119
 that,

01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:03.699
 that's not our role in evangelism.

01:00:03.699 --> 01:00:04.059
 Mm hmm.

01:00:04.059 --> 01:00:05.579
 Our goal is to present the gospel.

01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:07.719
 When they reject that gospel,

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:08.099
 that,

01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.400
 that general call to salvation,

01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:12.300
 that's,

01:00:12.300 --> 01:00:13.880
 that's what those verses are talking about.

01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:14.440
 Our lovely,

01:00:14.579 --> 01:00:17.139
 loving examples of others made with Christ.

01:00:19.059 --> 01:00:20.200
 I just found it.

01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:21.500
 I just found it.

01:00:22.220 --> 01:00:22.400
 Yep.

01:00:23.220 --> 01:00:26.539
 Ernie was very humbly texting me the answer to the verse that I was actually looking for.

01:00:27.200 --> 01:00:27.480
 Um,

01:00:28.139 --> 01:00:30.019
 he got my class in James five,

01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:31.420
 but he basically,

01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:33.000
 James says in James five,

01:00:33.099 --> 01:00:33.539
 19,

01:00:34.220 --> 01:00:34.639
 um,

01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:35.460
 my brothers,

01:00:35.700 --> 01:00:38.720
 if any among you wanders from truth,

01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:41.579
 and someone brings him back,

01:00:42.319 --> 01:00:49.779
 let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

01:00:49.779 --> 01:00:50.179
 So,

01:00:50.699 --> 01:00:54.699
 there is that idea of pursuing those people.

01:00:54.839 --> 01:00:55.579
 We don't just kind of say,

01:00:55.779 --> 01:00:55.799
 well,

01:00:55.879 --> 01:00:56.619
 they're a lost cause.

01:00:56.739 --> 01:00:56.839
 Like,

01:00:56.899 --> 01:00:57.039
 we,

01:00:57.179 --> 01:00:59.199
 we continue to pray like,

01:00:59.239 --> 01:00:59.379
 like,

01:00:59.539 --> 01:00:59.899
 like,

01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:02.639
 don't take this like in an arrogant way,

01:01:02.699 --> 01:01:06.039
 but our presence in their life is grace to them.

01:01:06.219 --> 01:01:06.480
 Like,

01:01:06.899 --> 01:01:08.679
 a lot of people don't have believers pursuing them.

01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:10.899
 A lot of people don't have Christians praying for them.

01:01:11.919 --> 01:01:12.339
 And actually,

01:01:12.419 --> 01:01:13.039
 it actually says,

01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:13.299
 right,

01:01:13.339 --> 01:01:17.119
 that God hears the prayers of his people and like God will answer those.

01:01:17.259 --> 01:01:17.599
 And so,

01:01:18.359 --> 01:01:18.579
 um,

01:01:18.579 --> 01:01:18.879
 but yeah,

01:01:18.939 --> 01:01:19.279
 it doesn't,

01:01:19.359 --> 01:01:21.579
 it really is more about like the projectile of,

01:01:21.619 --> 01:01:25.839
 of the center there and a warning to them not to go on sending,

01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:27.779
 to not harden their hearts,

01:01:27.959 --> 01:01:28.359
 um,

01:01:29.319 --> 01:01:30.379
 to remain,

01:01:30.539 --> 01:01:30.959
 you know,

01:01:31.099 --> 01:01:32.199
 steadfast in the Lord.

01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:32.799
 Um,

01:01:32.799 --> 01:01:33.059
 but,

01:01:33.179 --> 01:01:33.899
 but that,

01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:34.339
 but again,

01:01:34.340 --> 01:01:36.200
 he gives you that caveat at the end of that.

01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:36.380
 Like,

01:01:36.420 --> 01:01:36.559
 I mean,

01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:37.880
 I don't think this is you.

01:01:38.539 --> 01:01:38.940
 Like,

01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:41.820
 I'm convinced you actually have experienced salvation,

01:01:41.820 --> 01:01:44.400
 but though I'm talking in that way,

01:01:44.460 --> 01:01:44.780
 right?

01:01:44.860 --> 01:01:48.180
 Like though I'm talking in a hypothetical situation,

01:01:48.180 --> 01:01:50.760
 I I'm convinced that there are better things of you.

01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:52.220
 Great example.

01:01:52.219 --> 01:01:52.659
 Um,

01:01:54.899 --> 01:01:58.759
 think about the contrast between Judas and Peter.

01:01:59.000 --> 01:01:59.719
 You ever done that?

01:02:00.579 --> 01:02:00.919
 Like,

01:02:01.219 --> 01:02:07.139
 both outwardly claim to be true disciples of Jesus.

01:02:08.099 --> 01:02:08.500
 Um,

01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:11.399
 one was tested and one failed.

01:02:12.259 --> 01:02:14.619
 One was tested and failed initially,

01:02:14.619 --> 01:02:16.000
 but eventually came back.

01:02:16.759 --> 01:02:17.059
 Right?

01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:18.000
 And,

01:02:18.059 --> 01:02:19.139
 um,

01:02:19.139 --> 01:02:20.980
 and that's like what James,

01:02:21.139 --> 01:02:22.139
 or Jesus said to Peter,

01:02:22.139 --> 01:02:22.480
 he said,

01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:23.799
 you're going to betray me.

01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:26.299
 You're going to walk away from me.

01:02:27.259 --> 01:02:29.559
 But basically you will,

01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:31.759
 Peter would in the bigger picture,

01:02:31.879 --> 01:02:32.299
 endure,

01:02:32.659 --> 01:02:32.960
 right?

01:02:33.019 --> 01:02:35.059
 As where Judas had,

01:02:35.219 --> 01:02:35.440
 he will,

01:02:35.500 --> 01:02:36.980
 he was that parasite on the vine.

01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:37.960
 He was around Jesus.

01:02:38.059 --> 01:02:39.839
 He was enjoying all the cool,

01:02:39.839 --> 01:02:40.719
 um,

01:02:40.779 --> 01:02:42.799
 dog and pony tricks that Jesus was doing.

01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:45.199
 He never really belonged to Christ.

01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:46.500
 And Jesus says that in John,

01:02:46.579 --> 01:02:48.460
 like he was never one of mine.

01:02:49.179 --> 01:02:49.619
 Right?

01:02:50.019 --> 01:02:50.420
 And,

01:02:50.420 --> 01:02:50.759
 uh,

01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:52.280
 scary language,

01:02:52.720 --> 01:02:52.960
 but,

01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:53.860
 uh,

01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:58.300
 to be in Jesus's place and to know the whole time that was the guy that was going to do it.

01:02:58.620 --> 01:02:59.020
 Like,

01:02:59.140 --> 01:03:01.100
 so a very different contrast.

01:03:01.820 --> 01:03:04.040
 Peter did persevere.

01:03:04.160 --> 01:03:05.700
 Remember at the end of the gospel of John,

01:03:05.820 --> 01:03:05.920
 he,

01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:07.160
 you know,

01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:07.500
 Simon,

01:03:07.619 --> 01:03:08.139
 son of John,

01:03:08.179 --> 01:03:08.759
 do you love me?

01:03:08.779 --> 01:03:10.559
 And he asked him three times and,

01:03:11.319 --> 01:03:11.699
 um,

01:03:12.539 --> 01:03:12.859
 Lord,

01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:15.579
 you know all things and you know that I love you.

01:03:16.299 --> 01:03:17.460
 Take care of my sheep.

01:03:17.699 --> 01:03:18.119
 You know,

01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:19.099
 that response to him.

01:03:19.219 --> 01:03:19.379
 So,

01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:21.039
 so in other words,

01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.940
 Peter was not a Hebrews six person.

01:03:24.940 --> 01:03:25.240
 He,

01:03:25.240 --> 01:03:25.260
 he,

01:03:25.380 --> 01:03:29.340
 he came back around as where Judas was that person in the scripture.

01:03:29.860 --> 01:03:30.300
 So,

01:03:30.300 --> 01:03:30.320
 so

01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:31.880
 thinking about it,

01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:33.920
 from those of us on the outside,

01:03:34.019 --> 01:03:35.380
 looking in,

01:03:35.860 --> 01:03:36.019
 um,

01:03:36.019 --> 01:03:39.140
 we're all in the narrative that the federation,

01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:40.740
 the movement of the Holy Spirit,

01:03:41.240 --> 01:03:44.000
 is like the wind,

01:03:44.180 --> 01:03:44.640
 he says,

01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:45.940
 that,

01:03:45.940 --> 01:03:46.600
 you know,

01:03:46.600 --> 01:03:47.480
 the effects of it,

01:03:48.160 --> 01:03:50.340
 you don't know where it's coming or where it's coming.

01:03:50.340 --> 01:03:54.220
 And so when we're talking about the salvation of a person,

01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:55.440
 um,

01:03:55.680 --> 01:03:55.980
 like,

01:03:56.260 --> 01:03:57.059
 like Judas,

01:03:57.519 --> 01:03:58.720
 and Peter,

01:04:00.100 --> 01:04:03.480
 the disciples didn't know.

01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:04.600
 Sure.

01:04:05.200 --> 01:04:06.660
 Was apostate.

01:04:07.200 --> 01:04:07.420
 Um,

01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:09.519
 or was unsaved.

01:04:09.720 --> 01:04:11.180
 They questioned whether they were.

01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:11.760
 Yep.

01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:12.720
 That person.

01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:15.019
 So when we're looking at this,

01:04:15.100 --> 01:04:15.820
 okay,

01:04:16.019 --> 01:04:17.720
 who's a Christian,

01:04:17.940 --> 01:04:19.420
 who's not a Christian,

01:04:19.420 --> 01:04:21.800
 who professes to be a Christian,

01:04:22.220 --> 01:04:22.599
 do we,

01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:27.139
 who has gone so far that it's impossible.

01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:28.280
 Hmm.

01:04:29.200 --> 01:04:31.240
 We don't really know.

01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:31.820
 Nope.

01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:33.639
 Nope.

01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:33.700
 Nope.

01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:35.659
 Hmm.

01:04:40.659 --> 01:04:41.220
 Yeah.

01:04:46.740 --> 01:04:47.340
 Right.

01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:47.760
 I mean,

01:04:47.860 --> 01:04:48.099
 and I,

01:04:48.139 --> 01:04:48.599
 I tell,

01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:49.240
 um,

01:04:50.260 --> 01:04:51.680
 I told my brother that a long time ago.

01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:51.880
 Look,

01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:52.159
 man,

01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:54.460
 if I'm praying for you,

01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:55.360
 mom's praying for you,

01:04:55.440 --> 01:04:56.599
 grandma's praying for you.

01:04:56.980 --> 01:04:57.200
 Like,

01:04:57.220 --> 01:04:57.360
 look,

01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:58.099
 when God's ready,

01:04:58.159 --> 01:04:59.320
 like he's going to like take you out,

01:04:59.380 --> 01:04:59.559
 man.

01:05:00.659 --> 01:05:02.500
 Like there's nothing you're going to be able to do about it.

01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:04.320
 Like God's going to save you when he's ready.

01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:05.519
 I basically tell him that all the time.

01:05:06.340 --> 01:05:06.659
 So,

01:05:06.659 --> 01:05:07.320
 um,

01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:07.780
 you're not,

01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:08.260
 you can run,

01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:08.980
 but you can't hide.

01:05:09.059 --> 01:05:10.559
 That's kind of how I talk to him sometimes.

01:05:11.260 --> 01:05:11.639
 Um,

01:05:11.820 --> 01:05:12.300
 and,

01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.360
 but I mean,

01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:14.539
 I,

01:05:14.539 --> 01:05:16.460
 I just kind of want to make a personal plea to you.

01:05:17.099 --> 01:05:17.200
 Um,

01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.980
 there's some people in our church and they're very mature,

01:05:20.259 --> 01:05:20.980
 awesome people.

01:05:20.980 --> 01:05:22.480
 So don't take this as an offense.

01:05:22.579 --> 01:05:23.659
 I'm not going to name anybody.

01:05:24.460 --> 01:05:24.859
 Um,

01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:27.779
 just try to stay away from the language of,

01:05:27.780 --> 01:05:30.440
 he's not a believer.

01:05:30.780 --> 01:05:31.640
 She's not a believer.

01:05:31.940 --> 01:05:32.140
 You know,

01:05:32.140 --> 01:05:35.240
 just people to kind of make those judgments really quickly.

01:05:36.220 --> 01:05:37.019
 It's okay.

01:05:37.160 --> 01:05:37.340
 I mean,

01:05:37.340 --> 01:05:38.080
 Jesus did say,

01:05:38.140 --> 01:05:39.340
 right in Matthew there,

01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:40.780
 you'll know them by their fruits,

01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:41.060
 right?

01:05:41.100 --> 01:05:41.960
 And Jesus said,

01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:43.360
 um,

01:05:44.100 --> 01:05:47.080
 you'll know them by their love for me and for one another.

01:05:47.080 --> 01:05:47.519
 Uh,

01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.660
 so there's ways that we can discern,

01:05:50.040 --> 01:05:53.800
 but discerning doesn't mean you have complete knowledge.

01:05:54.720 --> 01:05:57.380
 Only God knows you can say,

01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:00.720
 I don't think so based on their life and based where they are.

01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.480
 It doesn't really seem like they're in the faith,

01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:04.880
 but don't,

01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:08.340
 but don't make such a harsh finalized judgment like that.

01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.000
 Like he's not a Christian.

01:06:10.120 --> 01:06:11.019
 I don't think she's a Christian.

01:06:11.100 --> 01:06:12.539
 There's a lot of that kind of talk.

01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:13.280
 And again,

01:06:13.300 --> 01:06:14.480
 my well-meaning people and I,

01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.760
 I myself sort of recused myself from that kind of language.

01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:18.620
 Like maybe they're not,

01:06:18.700 --> 01:06:19.800
 but you know what?

01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:21.060
 Like right now I'm just going to tell them,

01:06:21.120 --> 01:06:21.780
 I don't see it.

01:06:22.560 --> 01:06:23.539
 I don't see it.

01:06:23.539 --> 01:06:23.980
 Uh,

01:06:23.980 --> 01:06:24.579
 Cody Clickner,

01:06:24.659 --> 01:06:25.380
 as part of his testimony,

01:06:25.380 --> 01:06:27.259
 like me and another guy,

01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:29.039
 another believer on the baseball team basically said,

01:06:29.099 --> 01:06:29.199
 yeah,

01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:29.380
 you,

01:06:29.380 --> 01:06:31.340
 you talk a Christian moment for him,

01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:31.800
 like saying,

01:06:31.860 --> 01:06:31.960
 yeah,

01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:33.159
 my life is inconsistent.

01:06:33.340 --> 01:06:34.719
 What I claim.

01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:35.219
 So,

01:06:35.219 --> 01:06:36.559
 um,

01:06:36.659 --> 01:06:36.980
 but yeah,

01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.380
 just sort of be careful of that kind of language.

01:06:40.380 --> 01:06:40.779
 Cause again,

01:06:40.779 --> 01:06:41.860
 only God knows,

01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:43.659
 but there are ways that we can,

01:06:43.779 --> 01:06:45.699
 we can see it like repentance.

01:06:45.699 --> 01:06:48.039
 I've known people that this may sound stupid,

01:06:48.179 --> 01:06:52.699
 but I knew a guy who didn't think,

01:06:52.699 --> 01:06:56.419
 didn't think it was like wrong for him to lust after women.

01:06:57.299 --> 01:06:59.619
 He thought it was just part of how I naturally are like,

01:07:00.359 --> 01:07:00.539
 well,

01:07:00.759 --> 01:07:01.239
 what's wrong?

01:07:01.319 --> 01:07:01.500
 I mean,

01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:02.819
 as long as I don't do anything about it,

01:07:02.819 --> 01:07:04.000
 what's wrong with just looking at it.

01:07:04.500 --> 01:07:04.819
 And,

01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:05.579
 but I showed him,

01:07:05.619 --> 01:07:05.799
 he's like,

01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:06.240
 oh wow.

01:07:06.720 --> 01:07:07.280
 Oh gosh.

01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:09.300
 And so he immediately just like,

01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:10.440
 pretended,

01:07:10.600 --> 01:07:10.840
 you know,

01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:11.300
 it's just like,

01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:12.500
 Lord help me not do that.

01:07:13.180 --> 01:07:14.980
 And so that's a good sign.

01:07:15.019 --> 01:07:15.340
 But if he's like,

01:07:15.420 --> 01:07:15.680
 well,

01:07:15.700 --> 01:07:16.080
 you know,

01:07:16.120 --> 01:07:17.160
 we're just made that way.

01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:17.380
 And like,

01:07:17.420 --> 01:07:18.039
 what is God,

01:07:18.140 --> 01:07:18.300
 you know,

01:07:18.300 --> 01:07:18.660
 like that,

01:07:19.019 --> 01:07:19.360
 that'd be like,

01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:19.560
 okay,

01:07:19.640 --> 01:07:19.840
 well,

01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:20.320
 stop.

01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:21.340
 Like that's dangerous.

01:07:21.340 --> 01:07:24.380
 You're starting to question what God has clearly said,

01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:25.100
 not ambiguous.

01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:26.260
 He's very clear about it.

01:07:26.340 --> 01:07:26.440
 Like,

01:07:26.500 --> 01:07:27.539
 don't,

01:07:27.700 --> 01:07:27.860
 you know,

01:07:27.900 --> 01:07:29.039
 that's what it says in first John,

01:07:29.139 --> 01:07:30.219
 like by this,

01:07:30.300 --> 01:07:31.519
 we've come to know him.

01:07:31.539 --> 01:07:35.380
 If we keep his commandments and you're basically saying,

01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:36.639
 but this guy was like,

01:07:36.659 --> 01:07:36.779
 man,

01:07:36.779 --> 01:07:37.599
 I've never seen that.

01:07:37.659 --> 01:07:37.759
 Like,

01:07:37.779 --> 01:07:38.320
 oh my gosh.

01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:41.980
 He was like really broken by it and began to like ask the Lord to help him,

01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:42.340
 you know,

01:07:42.340 --> 01:07:42.739
 and,

01:07:42.739 --> 01:07:43.800
 um,

01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:44.719
 continued on.

01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:45.019
 So,

01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.119
 but yeah,

01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:48.179
 we don't know who they are.

01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:51.179
 So we need to just plead with them all.

01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:53.719
 Yeah.

01:07:54.739 --> 01:07:55.539
 Anything else?

01:07:57.139 --> 01:07:57.579
 Any questions?

01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:03.300
 Any questions?

01:08:04.860 --> 01:08:05.679
 Young people,

01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:06.440
 any questions?

01:08:12.659 --> 01:08:13.380
 Young people?

01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:18.319
 I mean,

01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:18.579
 I know,

01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:19.500
 like that fits you.

01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:20.100
 Go for it.

01:08:20.100 --> 01:08:21.100
 Go for it.

01:08:21.100 --> 01:08:22.100
 Go for it.

01:08:22.100 --> 01:08:22.720
 Just one,

01:08:22.899 --> 01:08:25.159
 just final point.

01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:26.560
 I don't know why.

01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:27.640
 Of course,

01:08:27.699 --> 01:08:28.680
 the groups are the same.

01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:29.240
 Mm-hmm.

01:08:30.820 --> 01:08:34.260
 I know that the five points are interconnected.

01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:34.940
 Yeah.

01:08:35.060 --> 01:08:37.159
 Depending on the one previous to it.

01:08:37.340 --> 01:08:37.560
 Yeah.

01:08:38.980 --> 01:08:40.539
 But still,

01:08:40.860 --> 01:08:43.619
 we have an inconsistent cowl.

01:08:43.619 --> 01:08:44.140
 Yeah.

01:08:48.140 --> 01:08:48.539
 Yeah.

01:08:48.979 --> 01:08:48.979


01:08:48.979 --> 01:08:50.039
 Yeah.

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01:09:18.539 --> 01:09:20.100
 that are inconsistent

01:09:20.100 --> 01:09:23.859
 and they will argue one good point.

01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:24.340
 Yeah.

01:09:24.340 --> 01:09:24.420
 Yeah.

01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:27.060
 Mm-hmm.

01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:34.060
 Yeah, really.

01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:38.500
 So we just drop them a good book

01:09:38.500 --> 01:09:39.640
 or a good sermon, you know,

01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:40.939
 and it's like, hmm, no.

01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:42.760
 Like just leave it on their doorstep

01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:43.479
 and drive away.

01:09:44.859 --> 01:09:46.340
 But it's...

01:09:48.539 --> 01:09:50.539
 Yeah.

01:10:07.899 --> 01:10:08.420
 Yep.

01:10:08.939 --> 01:10:09.579
 To get you there.

01:10:13.260 --> 01:10:13.619
 Mm-hmm.

01:10:16.739 --> 01:10:17.260
 It is.

01:10:17.260 --> 01:10:18.579
 Yeah.

01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:19.760
 And then I just thought,

01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:21.659
 to Doug's point,

01:10:23.480 --> 01:10:26.020
 a little record of a conversation

01:10:26.020 --> 01:10:27.739
 that happened between Charles Simeon

01:10:27.739 --> 01:10:28.579
 and John Wesley.

01:10:29.100 --> 01:10:29.340
 Yeah.

01:10:29.420 --> 01:10:30.900
 I think it was really great.

01:10:31.780 --> 01:10:33.039
 So Wesley is an Arminian.

01:10:33.380 --> 01:10:34.260
 I think we all know that, but...

01:10:35.380 --> 01:10:35.520
 Yeah.

01:10:35.659 --> 01:10:36.760
 So Simeon says...

01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:38.260
 So they met and...

01:10:38.980 --> 01:10:40.800
 This was pinned down,

01:10:40.900 --> 01:10:42.340
 a record of their little conversation.

01:10:43.380 --> 01:10:44.579
 So Simeon says to Wesley,

01:10:44.699 --> 01:10:46.300
 Sir, I understand that you were called an Arminian,

01:10:46.300 --> 01:10:48.239
 and I have been sometimes called a Calvinist,

01:10:48.260 --> 01:10:50.300
 and therefore I suppose we ought to draw daggers.

01:10:50.900 --> 01:10:52.539
 Before I consider to begin the combat,

01:10:52.659 --> 01:10:53.220
 with your permission,

01:10:53.380 --> 01:10:54.820
 I will ask a few questions.

01:10:55.900 --> 01:10:56.360
 Pray, sir,

01:10:56.400 --> 01:10:58.060
 do you feel yourself a depraved creature,

01:10:58.159 --> 01:10:59.680
 so depraved that you would never have thought

01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:00.380
 of turning to God

01:11:00.380 --> 01:11:03.000
 if God had not first put it into your heart?

01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:04.619
 Wesley responds,

01:11:04.739 --> 01:11:05.840
 Yes, I do indeed.

01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:07.100
 Simeon says,

01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:08.279
 And do you utterly despair

01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:09.600
 of recommending yourself to God

01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:11.020
 by anything you can do

01:11:11.020 --> 01:11:12.000
 and look for salvation

01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:13.200
 solely through the blood

01:11:13.200 --> 01:11:14.920
 and righteousness of Christ?

01:11:15.620 --> 01:11:16.180
 Wesley says,

01:11:16.240 --> 01:11:16.500
 Yes,

01:11:16.620 --> 01:11:17.560
 solely through Christ.

01:11:18.440 --> 01:11:19.020
 But sir,

01:11:19.080 --> 01:11:20.860
 supposing you were at first saved by Christ,

01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:22.000
 are you not now

01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:23.020
 somehow or other

01:11:23.020 --> 01:11:24.180
 to save yourself afterwards

01:11:24.180 --> 01:11:25.380
 by your own works?

01:11:26.160 --> 01:11:26.700
 Wesley says,

01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:26.900
 No,

01:11:26.940 --> 01:11:28.020
 I must be saved by Christ

01:11:28.020 --> 01:11:29.460
 from first to last.

01:11:30.540 --> 01:11:31.160
 Allowing then

01:11:31.160 --> 01:11:32.300
 that you were first turned

01:11:32.300 --> 01:11:33.120
 by the grace of God,

01:11:33.180 --> 01:11:34.440
 are you not in some way or other

01:11:34.440 --> 01:11:35.140
 to save yourself

01:11:35.140 --> 01:11:36.380
 by your own power?

01:11:37.140 --> 01:11:39.100
 What then?

01:11:39.100 --> 01:12:09.079
 Are you not in some way?

01:12:09.100 --> 01:12:10.500
 It is in substance

01:12:10.500 --> 01:12:11.400
 all that I hold

01:12:11.400 --> 01:12:12.280
 and as I hold it

01:12:12.280 --> 01:12:12.800
 and therefore,

01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:13.539
 if you please,

01:12:13.620 --> 01:12:14.620
 instead of searching out

01:12:14.620 --> 01:12:16.300
 terms and prices

01:12:16.300 --> 01:12:17.720
 to be a ground of contention

01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:18.440
 between us,

01:12:18.980 --> 01:12:20.079
 we will cordially unite

01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:21.039
 in those things

01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:22.800
 wherein we agree.

01:12:24.160 --> 01:12:25.180
 Wesley said,

01:12:25.539 --> 01:12:26.079
 to this,

01:12:26.539 --> 01:12:27.280
 I add nothing

01:12:27.280 --> 01:12:28.420
 to that conversation.

01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:29.360
 Yep.

01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:30.880
 That's good.

01:12:31.320 --> 01:12:32.320
 I took that conversation

01:12:32.320 --> 01:12:33.260
 like that for my friends.

01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:33.940
 That's good.

01:12:34.220 --> 01:12:34.740
 Maybe.

01:12:35.340 --> 01:12:35.920
 But yeah,

01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:36.420
 it's like,

01:12:36.420 --> 01:12:39.199
 there are those,

01:12:39.340 --> 01:12:40.859
 especially in the SBC

01:12:40.859 --> 01:12:43.880
 in the last 20 years

01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:44.579
 probably,

01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:46.920
 who have made this

01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:47.880
 a very divisive

01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:49.079
 and combative issue.

01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:52.300
 More hostility,

01:12:52.440 --> 01:12:53.000
 I would say,

01:12:53.100 --> 01:12:53.800
 from more of the,

01:12:54.340 --> 01:12:55.520
 I would call them

01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:56.440
 semi-Armenians

01:12:56.440 --> 01:12:57.760
 because they believe

01:12:57.760 --> 01:12:58.520
 in the last point,

01:12:58.619 --> 01:12:58.819
 right?

01:12:58.819 --> 01:13:00.739
 It's like they want

01:13:00.739 --> 01:13:01.899
 the other ones there

01:13:01.899 --> 01:13:02.779
 and then want to keep

01:13:02.779 --> 01:13:03.599
 that one at the end.

01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:05.579
 You know,

01:13:05.659 --> 01:13:06.939
 just a lot of hostility

01:13:06.939 --> 01:13:09.739
 and it doesn't need

01:13:09.739 --> 01:13:10.819
 to be like that way

01:13:10.819 --> 01:13:11.539
 is what Nathan's

01:13:11.539 --> 01:13:13.099
 really pointing out there.

01:13:13.099 --> 01:13:14.840
 But I,

01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:15.819
 example,

01:13:16.099 --> 01:13:17.380
 this is a story

01:13:17.380 --> 01:13:18.859
 that Spurgeon told

01:13:18.859 --> 01:13:20.759
 about Wesley

01:13:20.759 --> 01:13:21.599
 and Woodfield.

01:13:22.699 --> 01:13:22.920
 So,

01:13:24.059 --> 01:13:24.739
 but apparently,

01:13:25.139 --> 01:13:25.899
 some people came

01:13:25.899 --> 01:13:26.299
 to Woodfield

01:13:26.299 --> 01:13:26.539
 like,

01:13:26.539 --> 01:13:26.899
 so,

01:13:27.779 --> 01:13:28.500
 John Wesley,

01:13:28.939 --> 01:13:29.300
 like,

01:13:30.100 --> 01:13:30.880
 he's not like us.

01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:31.760
 He's not a Calvinist,

01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:32.359
 basically what they're

01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:32.840
 trying to say.

01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:33.539
 He's not like us.

01:13:33.539 --> 01:13:34.800
 He's not in our club.

01:13:35.619 --> 01:13:36.000
 He goes like,

01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:36.800
 do you think he'll be in,

01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:37.840
 you think we'll see him

01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:38.659
 in heaven one day?

01:13:39.420 --> 01:13:40.180
 Kind of like really

01:13:40.180 --> 01:13:41.300
 arrogant statement,

01:13:41.420 --> 01:13:41.619
 right?

01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:43.979
 And he basically said,

01:13:44.019 --> 01:13:44.239
 sir,

01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:44.779
 I think

01:13:44.779 --> 01:13:47.260
 we will not be seeing him

01:13:47.260 --> 01:13:48.060
 in heaven one day

01:13:48.060 --> 01:13:48.640
 because I think

01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:49.199
 he will have

01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:49.939
 such a place

01:13:49.939 --> 01:13:51.060
 near the throne of God

01:13:51.060 --> 01:13:51.899
 that we won't be able

01:13:51.899 --> 01:13:52.359
 to see him.

01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:53.619
 So,

01:13:53.739 --> 01:13:54.380
 really cool,

01:13:54.460 --> 01:13:54.819
 like,

01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:55.220
 statement.

01:13:55.220 --> 01:13:56.840
 Just unity

01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:57.600
 in the gospel.

01:13:58.680 --> 01:13:58.680


01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.320
 for Arminius

01:14:00.320 --> 01:14:01.800
 and for

01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:04.320
 Wesley,

01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:05.079
 at least they were

01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:05.780
 consistent.

01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:06.159
 Like,

01:14:06.220 --> 01:14:06.520
 they like,

01:14:06.579 --> 01:14:06.720
 yeah,

01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:08.280
 if it starts with you,

01:14:08.320 --> 01:14:09.000
 it could end with you.

01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:09.980
 They were really clear on that.

01:14:10.060 --> 01:14:11.020
 Now you have that breed today

01:14:11.020 --> 01:14:11.480
 as like,

01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:12.119
 yeah,

01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:13.699
 we want all the four points

01:14:13.699 --> 01:14:14.400
 of Arminianism,

01:14:14.500 --> 01:14:15.060
 but we don't really want

01:14:15.060 --> 01:14:15.659
 the last one.

01:14:15.860 --> 01:14:15.960
 You know,

01:14:15.980 --> 01:14:16.300
 and it's like,

01:14:16.360 --> 01:14:18.079
 both people would disagree

01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:18.520
 with you.

01:14:18.579 --> 01:14:18.720
 Like,

01:14:18.740 --> 01:14:19.579
 you're just being ridiculous.

01:14:19.579 --> 01:14:19.980
 So,

01:14:20.619 --> 01:14:21.060
 yeah.

01:14:23.180 --> 01:14:24.020
 Very true.

01:14:25.220 --> 01:14:28.020
 Anything else?

01:14:30.940 --> 01:14:32.420
 I went through the trouble

01:14:32.420 --> 01:14:34.500
 of getting Nathan's,

01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:36.619
 just wanted to show them

01:14:36.619 --> 01:14:37.340
 to you at least,

01:14:37.440 --> 01:14:38.920
 but these are

01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:39.920
 John Calvin's

01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:40.500
 Institutes.

01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:42.600
 Yeah,

01:14:42.740 --> 01:14:43.300
 real thick.

01:14:44.060 --> 01:14:45.159
 This is an abridged version

01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:46.180
 that I think I told you

01:14:46.180 --> 01:14:47.159
 I read a long time ago.

01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:47.360
 I'm like,

01:14:47.420 --> 01:14:47.619
 yeah,

01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:48.460
 I read the Institutes.

01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:49.640
 And then someone pointed out

01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:50.940
 that's the abridged version.

01:14:50.939 --> 01:14:51.219
 I'm like,

01:14:51.299 --> 01:14:51.460
 oh,

01:14:51.559 --> 01:14:51.759
 shoot.

01:14:52.839 --> 01:14:53.239
 So,

01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:53.839
 but yeah,

01:14:53.859 --> 01:14:54.759
 it's really good.

01:14:55.019 --> 01:14:56.639
 And crazy,

01:14:56.879 --> 01:14:57.659
 he wrote this

01:14:57.659 --> 01:14:58.399
 when he was 25.

01:14:59.899 --> 01:15:00.259
 So,

01:15:00.419 --> 01:15:00.679
 yeah.

01:15:01.419 --> 01:15:01.979
 But yeah,

01:15:02.059 --> 01:15:02.839
 while doing a bunch

01:15:02.839 --> 01:15:03.239
 of other things

01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:03.919
 at the same time.

01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:04.559
 But,

01:15:04.619 --> 01:15:05.739
 but yeah,

01:15:05.799 --> 01:15:06.019
 I mean,

01:15:06.019 --> 01:15:07.139
 but it's just really,

01:15:07.299 --> 01:15:08.319
 if you have like a false

01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:09.439
 perception of Calvin,

01:15:09.539 --> 01:15:10.419
 it'd be really good to,

01:15:10.419 --> 01:15:11.399
 like,

01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:12.099
 just start reading

01:15:12.099 --> 01:15:12.579
 through these.

01:15:12.739 --> 01:15:12.779
 Like,

01:15:12.839 --> 01:15:13.659
 they're just good.

01:15:14.139 --> 01:15:14.599
 Go to these,

01:15:14.719 --> 01:15:15.419
 but whatever.

01:15:15.420 --> 01:15:18.819
 And,

01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:21.140
 about like this.

01:15:22.220 --> 01:15:22.659
 Yeah,

01:15:22.819 --> 01:15:23.600
 a lot smaller.

01:15:23.899 --> 01:15:24.079
 Yeah.

01:15:25.220 --> 01:15:25.619
 But,

01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.180
 these are all good books.

01:15:28.699 --> 01:15:29.560
 This one is

01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.220
 Pillars of Grace.

01:15:32.579 --> 01:15:33.779
 100 A.D.

01:15:33.980 --> 01:15:35.180
 to 1564.

01:15:35.539 --> 01:15:35.659
 So,

01:15:35.739 --> 01:15:35.960
 meaning,

01:15:36.980 --> 01:15:37.659
 it goes over,

01:15:37.659 --> 01:15:37.840
 like,

01:15:37.899 --> 01:15:39.079
 a lot of the other saints

01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:40.060
 from church history

01:15:40.060 --> 01:15:40.619
 and talks about

01:15:40.619 --> 01:15:42.260
 how they believed

01:15:42.260 --> 01:15:43.380
 and taught these things.

01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:45.260
 You got like,

01:15:45.260 --> 01:15:45.680
 you know,

01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:46.300
 Luther,

01:15:47.280 --> 01:15:48.039
 Ignatius,

01:15:49.360 --> 01:15:49.920
 Cyprian,

01:15:50.579 --> 01:15:51.400
 Athanasius,

01:15:52.260 --> 01:15:53.340
 Calvin,

01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:55.640
 Tyndale,

01:15:55.820 --> 01:15:56.119
 etc.

01:15:58.480 --> 01:15:58.960
 Good.

01:15:59.140 --> 01:15:59.640
 Then you should just

01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:00.119
 give this book.

01:16:01.460 --> 01:16:02.360
 Buy him this book.

01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:05.680
 But anyway,

01:16:07.060 --> 01:16:08.680
 any questions about

01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:09.659
 any of the Reformers?

01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:10.020
 Like,

01:16:10.980 --> 01:16:11.280
 Luther,

01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:12.239
 Calvin,

01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:15.140
 not perfect,

01:16:15.140 --> 01:16:15.480
 men?

01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:21.300
 Any Reformation questions?

01:16:26.300 --> 01:16:26.980
 All right.

01:16:27.480 --> 01:16:27.920
 Well,

01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:28.860
 let's pray together

01:16:28.860 --> 01:16:29.220
 and

01:16:29.220 --> 01:16:30.800
 let's give God

01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:31.780
 thanks for our time.

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