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 Good morning. When I was told that I was going to be preaching on God's supernatural presence

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 in suffering, I thought, great, I think I might have some things to share on this this morning.

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 You see, I've had a fair few diagnoses in my life, both personally and within my close family,

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 that have had huge impacts on my life and grief that's knocked me sideways in a way that I'm sure

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 that so many of us here this morning will have done too. And we'll come back to that later.

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 But you might imagine my surprise then when this morning's passage that I was given to preach on

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 wasn't one of Jesus healing a blind man or someone else with a critical illness. It wasn't one of

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 Jesus being present at Lazarus's tomb. It wasn't even one of our Easter passages of Jesus' own suffering.

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 Instead, today's passage, as we've just read, starts with Peter's declaration that Jesus is the Messiah.

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 It continues on with Jesus predicting his own death and the suffering that was to follow.

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 And finishes with the call for his disciples through the generations to follow the same road marked with suffering.

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 Now, when I'm preparing a session for the youth or a talk, I find it quite helpful from the outset to have some key word definitions.

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 So perhaps here is a good point to define what we mean when we're looking at God's supernatural presence in suffering.

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 When we talk about God's supernatural presence, we're talking about his ability to be beyond and above the natural

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 or existence beyond the visible and observable universe that we exist in.

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 We're talking here about God's presence in the world through his Holy Spirit.

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 That's the part of God, the part of the Holy Trinity that is in the world, existing and living within us when we give our yes to Jesus.

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 And when we talk about suffering, the Oxford English Dictionary defines it very simply as pain, distress or hardship.

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 And that can be physical, emotional or spiritual.

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 When we're talking about any kind of suffering, from a sore back to war, from bereavement to natural disaster,

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 from life-threatening illness to human-inflicted evil such as genocide, FGM, rape,

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 or being forced to flee and seek refuge from your own homeland.

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 When it comes to suffering, whether it seems big or small, individual and personal or experienced by the masses,

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 size and scale doesn't matter to God because he cares about it all.

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 And as we look at God's supernatural presence in suffering this morning,

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 I want to remind us right from the outset of a verse that kept coming into my mind

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 as I was looking at our passage from Mark 8.

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 And that comes from John chapter 16, verse 33, where Jesus says,

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 In this world you will have trouble, but take heart, I have overcome the world.

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 It makes me think of the lion, the witch and the wardrobe.

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 And if you've not seen or read the film or the book, there are no real spoilers here

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 because it's basically the gospel story.

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 And if you're not familiar with the gospel story, then I'm delighted to hint to you

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 the greatest spoiler of them all.

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 So if you know the story of the Pevensey children and their adventures beyond the wardrobe

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 in the land of Narnia, in the world beyond the spare oom,

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 you'll know right from the beginning that there's this battle between good and evil,

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 between Aslan the lion and the snow queen,

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 who's been trying to take power over the land of Narnia.

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 And the story reaches its climax when the snow queen kills Aslan.

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 Darkness and winter descend over the land,

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 and it seems like the light of summer will never be seen again.

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 And it all seems hopeless for the Pevensey children

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 and those who were Aslan's faithful followers.

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 But then Aslan comes back to life.

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 And once he's on the move again,

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 he breathes life onto all of his faithful followers,

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 like Mr. Tumnus the fawn,

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 rescuing them from the evil grips of the snow queen.

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 And one by one, he brings back to life his army,

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 who are about to fight this incoming battle with him.

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 Susan, Peter, Esmond and Lucy have confidence that Aslan is the rightful leader of Narnia,

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 that he's strong and he's good,

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 but we see that they're not quite sure how Aslan's army of good

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 is going to triumph over the snow queen's vast, aggressive army.

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 But to the reader or the viewer, perhaps it's more obvious.

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 Aslan will win.

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 He's already come back to life.

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 He's conquered death.

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 And this last battle is nothing but a victory.

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 Nothing but a formality.

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 A sure victory, sealing the victory that is already his.

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 And it's just like that with Jesus.

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 Jesus, son of God, king of kings, has already conquered death.

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 He's bridged the divide that once stood between us and him.

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 And we get to stand in his victory.

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 As he reminds us in John 16, verse 33,

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 we can take heart because he has already overcome the world.

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 But as most of us will have already discovered in life,

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 that doesn't mean that we won't have suffering.

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 We live in a broken world and we're still waiting for the victory.

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 We're still waiting for the final battle of which we already know the outcome.

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 We already know that Jesus has won.

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 But he tells us to take heart because in the conquering,

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 in the overcoming,

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 he's standing with us in our pain,

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 in sickness, in death and grief,

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 in natural disaster, in war and persecution.

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 You name it, he's standing with us.

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 Our passage today reminds us that when we talk about God's supernatural presence in suffering,

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 we're not just talking about his comforting power or his advocating power,

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 but that as he stands here with us,

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 he knows what we're going through and has already experienced it himself.

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 In verse 31 of our passage,

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 Jesus says,

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 the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected.

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 And we can follow the story of the cross throughout the Gospels

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 to see for ourselves how that plays out.

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 The Son of Man did indeed suffer many things in multiple ways.

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 He faced emotional, physical and spiritual suffering.

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 We can read Jesus' prayers in the Garden of Gethsemane in Mark 14,

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 which show us just how deeply he was troubled by the suffering he was set to endure.

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 In verse 14, he says,

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 Abba, Father, everything is possible for you.

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 Take this cup from me, but not my will, but yours be done.

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 The other week in youth Bible study,

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 we were looking at this passage as an example of Jesus' own submission and obedience.

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 And we talked about how when Jesus prayed in the garden before he was betrayed,

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 he suffered anguish to the point of sweating blood.

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 Now, this really intrigued the psychologist in me,

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 so I had a bit of a Google about what it means for someone to sweat blood.

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 And I found out it's called a condition called haemociderosis,

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 which means that the capillary blood vessels rupture,

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 and that feeds blood into the sweat glands.

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 And it happens when someone is under extreme physical or emotional distress.

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 And what it tells us is that Jesus, Son of God,

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 fully human yet fully God,

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 experienced a huge amount of emotional suffering.

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 And all that's only added to the fact that he was betrayed by one of his 12 disciples.

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 Judas, with whom he'd shared his life, he'd taught,

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 he'd given the same authority to go out to feed the multitudes,

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 to heal the sick, to raise the dead, to cleanse the leper,

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 to cast out demons,

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 and whose feet he'd washed in an act of humble servitude.

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 And after being betrayed by Judas,

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 the crowds demanded the release of a convicted murderer over his sinless self.

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 And then Peter, one of his three best friends,

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 disowned and denied him not once but three times.

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 If anyone knew emotional suffering,

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 it was Jesus.

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 So when we experience betrayal and disappointment from others,

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 when we experience anxiety, stress, or emotional turmoil,

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 we get to stand in the knowledge that he is with us

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 and he can comfort us from a place of understanding what we're going through.

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 Once Jesus had come before Pilate,

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 he was subject to the physical humiliation of being beaten and spat on.

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 And then he was flogged.

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 Flogging was such a brutal punishment,

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 which was when people were whipped with bits of leather,

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 which were encrusted with bits of bone.

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 People tended not to make it as far as the crucifixion

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 because they'd die first from the brutality of flogging.

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 But in his love for each of us,

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 knowing that his death would set us free,

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 he determinedly powered through to the top of the hill

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 where he was crucified and died for us.

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 Jesus knew physical suffering.

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 Then whilst he was hanging on the cross,

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 he cried out those famous words,

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 Eli, Eli, Lima, Sabathani.

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 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

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 This is the only time in the Bible

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 when God calls God, God and not my father.

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 Because in his darkest, weakest hour,

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 the father turned his face away from the sun

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 because he couldn't look at the weight

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 of the world's sin on Jesus' shoulders.

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 Jesus knew spiritual suffering too.

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 In the cross, Jesus endured it all.

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 Physical, emotional, spiritual suffering.

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 And we read in verse 34 to 36 of our passage

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 that Jesus said,

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 whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves,

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 take up their cross and follow me.

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 For whoever wants to save their lives will lose it,

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 but whoever loses their lives for me

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 and for the gospel will save it.

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 What good is it for someone to gain the whole world

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 yet forfeit their soul?

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 I mentioned at the start that Jesus is present with us

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 by the supernatural power of his Holy Spirit.

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 And he knows what he's talking about

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 when it comes to suffering.

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 Taking up our crosses and following God

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 isn't just about suffering,

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 but it is our focus today.

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 And to quote my mum,

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 the cross is symbolic of everything that will come our way.

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 We're not being crucified,

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 but we have to daily take up our cross.

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 We have to choose to daily surrender to the will of God,

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 whatever that means for us in our own personal journeys.

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 But here comes the good news,

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 because also in the cross,

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 Jesus conquered all that suffering.

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 And we have this joyful yet slightly complicated theology

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 of the now and the not yet,

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 that he's won the victory,

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 but we're still waiting for the fullness of that.

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 I won't go into it now

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 because that would be a whole different sermon,

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 but it basically is where we find ourselves now,

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 that Jesus has conquered death,

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 but we still live in this broken world

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 where there is suffering,

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 where there's pain and death and hurt and war and sin

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 and all the rest.

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 But because we're in the now and the not yet,

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 because Jesus has come,

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 we have the Holy Spirit too.

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 Jesus says in John chapter 16, verse 7,

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 that he has to go to heaven

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 so that the advocate, the Holy Spirit can come down.

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 It means that when, like Peter in our reading,

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 when we recognise that Jesus is the Messiah,

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 that he is the son of the living God,

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 when we give our yes to him,

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 the Holy Spirit part of God lives in us.

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 And that, amongst so many things,

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 means that we are never alone.

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 It means that even in our darkest moments,

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 God is with us.

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 It means even when we feel lonely,

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 God is with us.

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 Psalm 139 vocalises it so well.

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 You hem me in behind and before,

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 you lay your hand upon me.

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 Where can I go from your spirit?

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 Where can I flee from your presence?

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 If I go up to the heavens, you are there.

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 If I make my bed in the depths, you are there.

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 There is literally nowhere that we can go

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 where God isn't with us.

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 And the reason for that is because he loves us.

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 That's why he endured the suffering

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 and rejection of the cross.

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 That's why, as Hebrews 12, verse 2 reminds us,

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 for the joy set before him,

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 he endured the cross.

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 Because he loves us.

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 And because he loves us,

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 he will never, ever leave our side.

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 So what about this question

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 that titles our theme today?

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 How is God with us supernaturally

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 in our suffering?

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 I said at the beginning

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 that I have my own personal story

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 of suffering in my life.

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 And perhaps here is a good point

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 to share some of my own personal story with you.

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 I did debate what to share with you this morning,

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 so I hope you'll forgive the slight vagueness of this.

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 But about two and a half years ago,

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 after seven years of waiting lists

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 and slightly traumatising appointments,

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 I was diagnosed with a health condition,

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 which sent me into a little bit of a spin.

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 Day-to-day, it means I can have a lot of pain,

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 it means I can get really exhausted,

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 and sometimes my brain doesn't quite function on top form.

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 But beyond the day-to-day in the wide picture,

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 I don't know what it means,

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 and that can feel like quite a big thing to think about.

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 And I remember that summer,

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 sitting on the floor of my bedroom at home,

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 saying to God very literally,

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 where on earth are you in this?

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 Because this doesn't feel good,

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 and this doesn't feel full of your faithfulness.

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 Faithfulness.

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 But I just remember God saying to me,

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 Emily, I am with you,

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 and that's a sure promise.

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 I know the promises I've made you,

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 and I'm faithful to keep them.

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 See, whether it's emotional, physical, or spiritual pain,

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 God doesn't leave us,

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 because that's not who he is.

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 He's the God who stays.

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 The Bible tells us over and over again

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 that God is near to people in their suffering.

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 Psalm 34 verse 18 tells us

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 that he is close to the brokenhearted

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 and saves those who are crushed in spirit.

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 I don't know about for you,

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 but this reminds me that God is a God of proximity,

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 of compassion and care,

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 and who's present in all of our tears.

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 God's supernatural presence is reliable and dependable,

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 because it's always been the way,

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 it always is the way,

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 and it always will be the way.

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 It's his character,

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 it's who he is.

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 So for me,

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 when I asked God where he was in my pain,

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 in my suffering,

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 I was suddenly reminded of exactly where he was.

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 He was right there next to me,

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 because that's where he's always been,

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 that's where he always will be.

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 And I take great comfort in knowing

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 that he deeply empathizes with me,

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 because he goes before me,

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 and he's been through it all.

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 I don't want anyone here to think

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 that I've mastered this whole suffering in faith thing,

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 or faith in suffering thing,

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 because there have been so many times in my life

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 when my approach to suffering,

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 or my understanding of God's presence in suffering,

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 wouldn't have made for a good story in today's sermon.

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 But I share it with you,

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 because in those moments of sitting on the floor,

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 asking God where on earth he was,

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 how this aligned with his faithfulness,

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 he taught me something that I hope that we can all learn from,

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 and take away today.

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 And that is that there is nothing insurmountable

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 when God is with us.

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 And there is nothing that he hides from.

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 Be it our health or bereavement,

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 be it the war that carries on going in Ukraine,

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 we can turn to God and ask him where he is.

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 And in this stillness,

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 he gently reminds us time and time again,

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 he is right here with us.

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 If we go back to our passage from Mark 8 this morning,

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 when Jesus told his disciples

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 that he was going to suffer many things,

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 and be rejected by the elders,

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 the chief priests, the teachers of the law,

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 and that he must be killed,

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 and then on the third day he would rise again.

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 Peter took him aside and rebuked him.

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 He couldn't understand that this man,

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 the Messiah, who was standing in front of him,

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 was going to be killed.

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 But Jesus rebuked Peter in return,

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 and said,

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 you do not have in mind the concerns of God,

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 but merely human concerns.

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 I'm not going to stand here and pretend it all makes sense to me,

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 because it absolutely doesn't.

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 But I can stand here and say that we can fully trust God

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 that we'll always find purpose in our suffering.

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 Suffering was never part of God's plan.

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 He doesn't cause it,

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 and he doesn't like it,

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 but we serve a powerful God

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 who will always triumph over suffering.

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 And as Romans 8 verse 28 tells us,

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 We know that in all things he works for good,

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 we know that in all things he works for the good of those who love him,

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 who have been called according to his purpose.

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 Whether it seems big or small,

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 personal and individual,

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 or experienced by the masses,

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 when it comes to suffering,

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 size and scale does not matter to God,

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 because he cares about it all.

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 And he will always work it together

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 for his good,

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 for his glory,

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 and for his purpose.

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 And in our suffering,

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 God is always present right here with us,

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 comforting us,

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 and fighting for us.

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 Heavenly Father,

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 thank you that you are a God

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 who is present with us in our suffering,

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 that you always fight for us,

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 that you always comfort us,

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 and that you don't shy away from the big things,

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 but you also care about the small things.

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 Would you just help each of us here today

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 to go away from this morning

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 knowing that you are present with us in suffering.

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 In your name we pray.

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 Amen.