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 Let me remind you of something important. There is usually one point, one main point to a parable.

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! Jesus tells parables to get one main point across, to do it memorably and vividly.

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! And so the parable that we've got this morning has one main point.

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 One more point that it wants to get across and it's this.

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 It is, forgiven people will be forgiving people. Forgiving people will be forgiving people.

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 We can turn it the other way round and we can say, unforgiving people cannot be forgiven people.

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 Unforgiving people cannot be forgiven.

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 Now if you don't understand that usually a parable is intended to get across one main point, you'll come to this parable and you'll come to all sorts of wrong conclusions.

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 On issues that the parable actually was never intended to address.

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 So for some people who look at this parable and they say, well God just forgives, doesn't he, in this parable.

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 The king forgives. There's no atonement.

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 There's no suggestion of it. There's just repentance and then forgiveness.

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 But that's not the point of the parable.

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 The point of the parable is to answer a question. Look at verse 21.

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 And Peter comes to Jesus and says, Lord, how often will my brother or sister, that can be, sin against me and I forgive them.

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 Many is seven times.

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 That's the question.

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 And that's the one question that the parable is meant to answer.

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 And so let me remind you of the parable briefly.

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 You've got a servant.

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 He's a servant of the king.

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 He's a pretty high-ranking official.

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 And he's dealing with lots of money.

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 You've got to think of a kind of governor.

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 Of a province or something.

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 And because of his incompetence, because of his mismanagement,

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 perhaps even deliberate embezzlement or fraud,

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 he ends up owing the king a large amount of money.

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 A vast amount of money.

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 The day of reckoning comes.

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 It's the end of the financial year.

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 And he is in the deep.

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 He owes the king 10,000 talents.

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 That is an impossibly large figure.

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 A talent.

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 One talent was a lot of money in those days.

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 And 10,000 was really the highest number in the Greek language.

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 The Greeks couldn't really conceive of a number higher than 10,000.

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 They had no word in their language for more than 10,000.

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 It's why when you get to Revelation,

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 John wants to describe the multitude that no man can number that are in heaven.

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 And he describes it, doesn't he, as 10,000 times 10,000.

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 And thousands.

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 Thousands.

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 10,000 is kind of the limit of their vocabulary when it came to large numbers.

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 And so when Jesus says, this guy owed 10,000 talents,

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 he was really thinking, this man could not have owed any more than he owed.

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 He's in terrible trouble.

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 And we're talking billions in our money.

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 And the whole point is that his debt was immense and completely unpayable.

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 And there was nothing that this man could have done in order to pay back the money.

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 He was ruined.

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 He was finished.

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 And it was prison that he faced.

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 And for him and his family in slavery,

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 they were to be sold.

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 You couldn't declare yourself bankrupt.

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 And that way, if they were sold in the slavery,

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 the king would at least get some money back from that family.

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 And so that's the situation this man is in.

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 He goes to the king.

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 The king calls him in.

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 The man falls on his knees and begs.

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 He begs the king.

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 He says, doesn't he,

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 Be patient with me.

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 Did you notice in verse 26,

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 He says, be patient with me and I will pay you everything.

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 There's no way on earth he could have paid everything.

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 He doesn't understand it.

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 It's just ridiculous.

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 He can't pay back 10,000 talents.

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 He's asked for patience.

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 He's asked for time to redeem the situation by his own efforts.

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 And instead, what he receives from the king is sheer grace.

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 It's an unbelievable act.

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 The king cancels the whole debt and lets him go.

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 As if he didn't own a thing.

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 He cancels the whole debt.

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 10,000 talents wiped off the slate.

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 It's an act of pity.

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 It's an act of compassion.

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 It's an act of mercy.

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 Incidentally, the king bears the cost, doesn't he?

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 There is actually atonement here.

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 The king absorbs the loss.

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 But you can imagine how that servant felt, didn't he,

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 when he walked out of that room.

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 He must have been on cloud nine.

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 Imagine I come to your house this afternoon.

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 And I say to you, have you got a mortgage?

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 Say, yeah, I've got 20 years to go on my mortgage.

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 18 years to go on the mortgage.

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 I say, how much is that you?

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 Tell me the amount.

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 And I write you a cheque.

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 Or I transfer the money into your account.

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 I say to you, have you got university fees?

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 You say, yeah.

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 How much are they?

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 I open a case and I get the money out.

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 What is it, 9,000 pounds and I give it to you.

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 A bridging loan.

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 Imagine I can wipe off your bridging loan.

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 Credit card bill.

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 Your overdraft.

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 Just wiped out this afternoon.

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 Imagine how you'd feel.

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 You'd come to church tonight.

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 You'd be pretty pleased, wouldn't you?

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 You'd be on cloud nine.

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 And here's the man, he walks out of there.

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 The weight, isn't it?

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 Isn't that what people talk about with death?

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 The overwhelming weight of it?

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 The weight is off his shoulders.

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 The burden is gone.

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 And as he's walking around his workplace,

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 he finds another member of staff

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 that owes a comparatively minor, trivial sum.

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 It's a hundred denarii.

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 What's that?

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 Well, if you work it out,

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 it's basically three months' salary

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 on the minimum wage.

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 That's what a hundred denarii is.

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 It's not an insignificant sum.

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 It's three months' salary of the minimum wage.

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 So it's a few thousand pounds.

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 It's a substantial amount.

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 If you owed me,

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 let's say three thousand pounds,

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 I'd want to get it back.

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 And so here's a man who's owed,

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 let's say three thousand pounds.

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 It's not a totally insignificant sum of money.

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 But he goes to his friend,

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 and what does he do?

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 He grabs him by the throat,

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 and he begins to choke him.

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 Where's my money?

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 And he demands immediate payment

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 of his three thousand pounds.

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 The man falls on his knees,

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 and he says,

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 do you hear the echo?

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 He says,

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 have patience with me,

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 and I will pay you.

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 Haven't we heard that before?

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 Be patient with me,

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 and I will pay you.

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 Everything.

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 They're the exact words

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 that the servant used

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 when he asked the king

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 to be patient with me.

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 But on this occasion,

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 those words fall on deaf ears.

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 And he refuses to be patient.

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 He refuses to be merciful.

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 He takes him to the courtroom,

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 and he puts the man in prison

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 until he gets the three thousand pound back.

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 And word gets around the staff.

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 And we read that the fellow servants

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 were greatly distressed.

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 And you can imagine they were,

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 but rightly so.

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 I mean,

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 there's something incredibly hard-hearted,

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 isn't there,

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 about a man who's been forgiven

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 millions of pounds,

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 cruelly demanding

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 the instant payment

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 of a few thousand pounds.

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 His name was Albert Tesla.

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 Albert Tesla won the lottery

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 a few years ago

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 in the United States.

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 The amount he pocketed

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 was seven million dollars.

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 That's a lot of money,

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 isn't it?

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 Seven million dollars.

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 But two years later,

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 after Albert Tesla

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 won seven million dollars,

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 he was sent to prison.

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 And he was sent to prison

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 because he failed

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 to pay child support,

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 which totaled

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 thirty-five thousand dollars.

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 He got seven million dollars,

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 but he couldn't pay

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 thirty-five thousand dollars.

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 You think that's bad?

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 Well,

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 the servants in this story,

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 the work colleagues,

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 they certainly did,

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 didn't they?

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 So the fellow servants

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 report to the king

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 that the king is absolutely

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 furious and very disappointed.

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 Disappointed that such an act

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 of sheer grace

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 and forgiveness

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 and mercy

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 had made so little difference

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 to the man's character

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 or heart.

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 And so we read in verse 32,

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 then his master summoned him

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 and said to him,

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 you wicked servants,

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 I forgave you all that debt

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 because you pleaded with me.

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 And should you not have

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 had mercy on your fellow servants,

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 I had mercy on you.

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 And in his anger,

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 his master delivered him

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 to the jailers,

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 literally to the torturers,

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 until he should pay

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 all his debt.

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 And so it's not slavery now,

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 it's torture,

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 shockingly.

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 Until he can pay back

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 all that he owes.

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 And it's going to take him

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 a very long time,

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 an impossibly long time.

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 And then the punchline

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 comes in verse 35,

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 here's the punchline,

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 and so also my heavenly father

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 will do to every one of you

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 if you do not forgive

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 your brother from your heart.

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 So there's the parable.

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 What can we say about it?

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 Let me remind you,

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 one big lesson in a parable.

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 And it's intended to teach us

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 that those who experience

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 God's utterly amazing forgiveness

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 will themselves be forgiving people.

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 So let's look at that.

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 First of all,

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 let's see God's utterly amazing forgiveness.

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 And when we think of God's forgiveness,

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 we shouldn't think of him

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 overlooking minor misdemeanors.

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 We should think of him

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 cancelling a huge,

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 unpayable debt.

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 God is a great king

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 and we are his stewards.

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 We are his servants.

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 We are answerable to him.

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 We owe him obedience

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 and we owe him honour.

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 We owe him respect.

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 We owe him love.

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 We owe him worship.

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 You owe him your whole life.

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 And you have not paid him

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 what you ought.

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 And you,

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 whether you're willing to admit it

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 this morning,

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 are guilty of serious mismanagement.

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 When we recognise this,

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 when we understand this

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 before God,

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 that we have a massive

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 unpaid debt

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 to a great and glorious Lord,

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 we get before him

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 on our knees

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 and we beg for mercy.

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 We beg for mercy.

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 And I wonder,

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 has that ever happened

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 in your experience?

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 Have you ever come to that point

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 where you've suddenly realised

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 how vastly in debt

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 you are towards God?

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 And how you cannot pay it back

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 yourself at all.

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 How you need mercy.

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 And the amazing thing

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 is that when we get to that point,

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 God does forgive us,

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 doesn't he?

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 He cancels the debt.

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 He cancels the debt.

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 According to the rest of

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 Matthew's Gospel

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 and the New Testament,

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 he cancels the debt

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 because of the Lord Jesus.

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 He absorbs the cost.

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 And only because of Jesus.

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 The Jews in the Old Testament,

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 they were familiar with,

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 they knew that if you were in debt,

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 there was a close relative,

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 a kinsman, redeemer,

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 who if he had the money,

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 could come and pay the debt off him.

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 And you would be released.

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 And so where is the redeemer

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 who can pay 10,000 talents?

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 Where is the redeemer

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 with that kind of money?

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 Where is the redeemer

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 who can rescue

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 from a debt like that?

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 No earthly redeemer

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 can pay that.

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 And that's why God

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 sent us a redeemer.

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 There is a redeemer,

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 Jesus, God's own son.

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 The Messiah, the Holy One,

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 no debt of his own.

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 But he was able to pay

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 out of his great

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 and glorious righteousness

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 all the debt we owe.

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 And so when we get to the point

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 of being on our knees

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 and begging for mercy,

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 God forgives us.

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 And God cancels the debt.

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 Because there is a redeemer.

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 Jesus, God's own son.

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 Second thing is

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 that forgiven sinners

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 will be forgiving people.

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 Forgiven sinners

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 will be forgiving people.

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 You would have thought,

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 wouldn't you,

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 that that servant

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 would have been willing

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 to forgive anybody anything.

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 What was the debt

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 that he was owed

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 compared to the debt

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 that he owes to the king?

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 On which the king had counseled.

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 Any wrong,

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 any injury,

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 any insult.

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 Anything that's been done to us,

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 however considerable,

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 when you consider that

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 in comparison

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 with the insults

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 and the injury

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 and the wrong

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 that we have done to God

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 and what God has forgiven us,

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 we have to say,

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 don't we,

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 that nobody,

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 nothing,

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 anyone can do

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 to us

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 compares to what we have done

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 to God

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 is of any significant.

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 God is perfectly right

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 and holy.

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 He is holy in the right,

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 isn't he?

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 And that is very,

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 very rarely true.

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 So when relationships

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 break down

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 in human life,

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 very rarely

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 is one party

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 holy in the right.

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 I usually,

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 in a situation,

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 there's somebody

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 who is more in the right

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 than the other person.

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 And maybe there's one party

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 that's 95%

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 in the right

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 or 98%

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 in the right.

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 That's usually the case

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 in earthly relationships.

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 Rarely,

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 very rarely,

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 is one party

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 holy and completely

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 100%

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 in the right.

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 But God is

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 completely 100%

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 in the right.

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 God is righteous.

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 God is holy.

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 God is God.

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 And he is the one

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 who forgives us.

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 He is holy right

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 and we have been

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 holy wrong

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 and yet

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 he is the one

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 who forgives us.

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 I find that amazing.

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 And so if we refuse

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 to forgive,

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 what if

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 sinners

00:15:18.099 --> 00:15:19.279
 refuse to forgive

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 our fellow sinners?

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 The holy

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 and righteous

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 God

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 can forgive sinners.

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 How is it

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 that we can't?

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 And we're saying,

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 aren't we,

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 that we are more

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 holy than God.

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 We're saying

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 that we're greater

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 than God.

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 And if we ask

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 God for forgiveness

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 but refuse

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 to forgive others,

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 we are burning

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 the bridge

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 we need to cross.

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 And that is why

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 we cannot be forgiven

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 unless we are

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 forgiving.

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 We need to cross

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 the bridge of forgiveness

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 ourselves.

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 And by refusing

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 to forgive

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 we are burning

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 the bridge

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 that you and I

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 need to cross

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 ourselves.

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 But let's note

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 the order.

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 The order is very,

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 very important.

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 It's God's forgiveness

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 which comes first.

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 God's forgiveness

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 precedes ours.

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 Our forgiveness

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 is the response

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 to God's forgiveness

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 of us.

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 And so that casts light

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 on the Lord's Prayer,

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 doesn't it?

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 What's the only

00:16:19.160 --> 00:16:19.900
 petition in the

00:16:19.900 --> 00:16:20.600
 Lord's Prayer

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 that the Lord Jesus

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 comments on

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 after he's

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 told his disciples?

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 The one petition

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 he comments on

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 is forgive us

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 our debts

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 or forgive us

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 our trespasses

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 or forgive us

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 our sins

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 as we've forgiven

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 our debtors

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 or those who

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 trespass against us

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 or those who

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 sin against us.

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 And he goes on

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 to say,

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 he goes on to say

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 if you do not

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 forgive those

00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:46.340
 who sin against you,

00:16:46.340 --> 00:16:47.200
 your Heavenly

00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:47.720
 Father will not

00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:48.180
 forgive you.

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 He makes a comment

00:16:50.980 --> 00:16:51.759
 about that petition

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 and it's important

00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:53.800
 to understand

00:16:53.800 --> 00:16:54.440
 that God

00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:55.720
 does not forgive us

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 because we

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 forgive others.

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 No,

00:16:58.800 --> 00:16:59.860
 we forgive others

00:16:59.860 --> 00:17:00.440
 because God

00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:01.180
 has forgiven us.

00:17:01.179 --> 00:17:04.200
 no one who

00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:04.839
 has understood

00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:06.019
 the grace of God

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 no one who

00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:07.700
 understands grace

00:17:07.700 --> 00:17:08.319
 will be an

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 unforgiving person.

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 The third lesson

00:17:13.819 --> 00:17:14.419
 we must learn

00:17:14.419 --> 00:17:16.460
 is the terrible

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 punishment of

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 being unforgiving.

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 Look at verse

00:17:19.779 --> 00:17:20.480
 34.

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 And in anger

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 his master

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 delivered him

00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:25.319
 to the jailers

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 until he should

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 pay all his debt.

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 And these are

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 solemn words.

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 So also my

00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:31.599
 Heavenly Father

00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:32.000
 will do to

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 every one of you

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 if you do not

00:17:33.380 --> 00:17:33.799
 forgive your

00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:34.299
 brother from the

00:17:34.299 --> 00:17:34.599
 heart.

00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:38.319
 Now who's he

00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:38.860
 talking to?

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 He's talking to

00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:41.279
 his disciples.

00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:42.019
 He's talking to

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 the twelve.

00:17:44.140 --> 00:17:44.660
 He's talking

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 specifically to

00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:45.680
 Peter.

00:17:45.819 --> 00:17:46.299
 It was Peter

00:17:46.299 --> 00:17:46.680
 who asked

00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:47.160
 the question.

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 And this parable

00:17:49.339 --> 00:17:50.139
 is a reply

00:17:50.139 --> 00:17:51.119
 to that question.

00:17:52.699 --> 00:17:53.359
 And the

00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:54.059
 punchline of

00:17:54.059 --> 00:17:54.519
 this parable

00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:54.959
 makes it

00:17:54.959 --> 00:17:56.159
 very very clear

00:17:56.159 --> 00:17:57.259
 absolutely clear

00:17:57.259 --> 00:17:57.959
 that you can be

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 outwardly

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 very closely

00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:01.559
 associated with

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 Jesus Christ

00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:03.959
 and still go

00:18:03.959 --> 00:18:04.459
 to hell.

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 You can actually

00:18:09.159 --> 00:18:09.859
 be one of the

00:18:09.859 --> 00:18:10.759
 twelve disciples

00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.079
 and go to hell.

00:18:13.579 --> 00:18:14.139
 One did.

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 You can be

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 outwardly a

00:18:17.419 --> 00:18:17.980
 church member

00:18:17.980 --> 00:18:20.200
 you can be

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 a respectable

00:18:20.860 --> 00:18:21.559
 church member

00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:22.059
 and not be

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 a saved person

00:18:22.740 --> 00:18:23.220
 in the end.

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 This is the

00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:27.400
 question that's

00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:28.099
 asked by Jesus

00:18:28.099 --> 00:18:29.019
 by his disciples

00:18:29.019 --> 00:18:29.880
 and by Peter

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 in particular.

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 And Jesus

00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:31.759
 tells this story

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 and he says

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 this is how

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 my Heavenly

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 Father will

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 treat each of

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 you.

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 No exception.

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 Unless you

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 forgive your

00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:39.019
 brother from

00:18:39.019 --> 00:18:39.740
 your heart.

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 Not just

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 words.

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 Not just

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 words.

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 Not just

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 pretend.

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 but heartfelt

00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:47.940
 forgiveness.

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 And that is

00:18:51.059 --> 00:18:51.440
 what happens

00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:51.799
 when we've

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 been forgiven.

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 That's the

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 kind of

00:18:53.740 --> 00:18:54.920
 forgivers we

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 become.

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 I just want

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 to spend

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 five minutes

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 as we close

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 just to make

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 a few further

00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:00.100
 comments on

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 forgiveness.

00:19:02.420 --> 00:19:03.100
 Because this

00:19:03.100 --> 00:19:03.840
 is a very

00:19:03.840 --> 00:19:04.740
 hard-hitting

00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:05.340
 parable.

00:19:07.340 --> 00:19:07.920
 And it could

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 worry or

00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:09.759
 confuse us

00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:10.720
 unless I think

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 I make a few

00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:12.279
 comments on the

00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:12.840
 nature of

00:19:12.840 --> 00:19:13.220
 forgiveness.

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 forgiveness.

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 It won't

00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:15.880
 help us.

00:19:17.360 --> 00:19:18.120
 This parable

00:19:18.120 --> 00:19:18.660
 does not

00:19:18.660 --> 00:19:19.900
 teach that

00:19:19.900 --> 00:19:20.519
 forgiveness is

00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:21.200
 easy or

00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:21.740
 straightforward.

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 I think the

00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:26.180
 Christian church

00:19:26.180 --> 00:19:26.819
 in this country

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 and the United

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 States is

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 plagued with a

00:19:29.220 --> 00:19:30.180
 trivial view of

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 forgiveness.

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 A sentimental

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 view of

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 forgiveness.

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 Where sin is

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 not taken

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 seriously.

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 And sin is

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 not dealt

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 with.

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 And so

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 there have

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 been a

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 number of

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 occasions

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 and a

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 number of

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 times where

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 there has

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 been a

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 great tragedy.

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 And

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 church

00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:50.700
 going

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 Christian

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 people will

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 say pretty

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 much in the

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 immediate

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 aftermath what

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 they feel

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 they are

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 expected to

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 say.

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 And so

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 they will

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 say I

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 forgive my

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 daughter's

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 killers.

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 I forgive

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 the person

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 who has

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 murdered my

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 husband or

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 daughter.

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 And I

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 know it's

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 a very hard

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 thing to say

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 but I'm

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 not convinced

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 that that is

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 right.

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 Because the

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 context of

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 Peter's

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 question is in

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 relationships in

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 the local

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 church.

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 That's why I

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 took the time

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 on it before

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 the reading

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 isn't it?

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 And so he

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 says what

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 happens when a

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 church member

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 goes astray?

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 If for instance

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 he or she

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 sins against

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 you what do

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 you do?

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 Do you just

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 ignore it?

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 Do you write

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 the person

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 off?

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 Do you condemn

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 the person

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 you shrug

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 your shoulders?

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 And say

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 well have you?

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 No Jesus

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 says you go

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 and you

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 seek that

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 person.

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 What does

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 the shepherd

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 do?

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 The shepherd

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 if he loses

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 just one of

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 his sheep

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 he goes out

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 and he seeks

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 the sheep

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 that is lost

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 and he brings

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 the sheep

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 back home.

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 What do you

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 do with

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 church members

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 that go

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 astray?

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 Well we've

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 all got a

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 responsibility.

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 We have to

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 go and to

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 seek that

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 person that's

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 wandered away

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 from the

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 Lord Jesus.

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 And how do

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 we seek them?

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 Well Jesus

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 says this

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 in the passage

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 we looked at

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 last week

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 you go

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 privately

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 and you

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 seek to

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 show them

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 their fault.

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 And if they

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 listen to you

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 great you've

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 won them

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 over.

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 But what if

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 he doesn't

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 listen?

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 Well you keep

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 at it.

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 And you go

00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:15.660
 with two or

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 three witnesses

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 and you want

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 to show them

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 their fault so

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 that they'll

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 come back and

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 you deal with

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 the wrong doing.

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 and if they do

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 come back and

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 they say

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 yeah I'm

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 sorry I was

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 out of

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 order I

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 sinned you

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 forgive them

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 and the

00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:28.220
 matter goes

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 no further.

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 And what if

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 he will not

00:21:30.879 --> 00:21:31.400
 listen to the

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 two or the

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 three?

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 Well in that

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 event he says

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 you take him

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 to the church

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 the leadership

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 and if he

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 refuses to

00:21:38.379 --> 00:21:39.099
 listen well

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 you have to

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 treat him like

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 somebody who's

00:21:41.220 --> 00:21:41.879
 not a Christian

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 like a pagan

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 or a tax

00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:44.740
 collector.

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 And you

00:21:46.339 --> 00:21:47.299
 don't share

00:21:47.299 --> 00:21:47.660
 the Lord's

00:21:47.660 --> 00:21:48.079
 Supper with

00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:48.279
 them.

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 You don't

00:21:49.899 --> 00:21:50.500
 allow them

00:21:50.500 --> 00:21:51.180
 to think of

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 themselves as

00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:52.379
 a Christian.

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 And if of

00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:56.579
 course they

00:21:56.579 --> 00:21:57.259
 listen and

00:21:57.259 --> 00:21:57.899
 they repent

00:21:57.899 --> 00:21:58.299
 well you

00:21:58.299 --> 00:21:59.879
 extend total

00:21:59.879 --> 00:22:00.980
 100%

00:22:00.980 --> 00:22:01.539
 forgiveness

00:22:01.539 --> 00:22:02.460
 and it's

00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:02.839
 settled.

00:22:05.980 --> 00:22:06.420
 And Jesus

00:22:06.420 --> 00:22:06.940
 goes on to

00:22:06.940 --> 00:22:07.519
 say for a

00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:08.000
 church to do

00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:08.420
 this it's

00:22:08.420 --> 00:22:09.099
 really difficult

00:22:09.099 --> 00:22:10.839
 and it's a

00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:11.660
 sensitive thing

00:22:11.660 --> 00:22:12.240
 and we all

00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:12.920
 shy away from

00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:13.839
 it and Jesus

00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:14.359
 says when you

00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:15.039
 do this

00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:16.240
 when you seek

00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:16.759
 to do this

00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:17.379
 I am with

00:22:17.379 --> 00:22:17.879
 you when two

00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:18.320
 three are

00:22:18.320 --> 00:22:19.000
 together I

00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:19.340
 am with

00:22:19.340 --> 00:22:19.920
 you don't

00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:20.460
 be afraid.

00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:22.620
 And what

00:22:22.620 --> 00:22:23.120
 you decide

00:22:23.120 --> 00:22:23.780
 on earth will

00:22:23.780 --> 00:22:24.480
 be ratified

00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:25.100
 in heaven don't

00:22:25.100 --> 00:22:25.660
 shy away from

00:22:25.660 --> 00:22:25.920
 it.

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 And I

00:22:28.360 --> 00:22:28.880
 think the

00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:29.600
 passages in

00:22:29.600 --> 00:22:30.500
 Matthew 18

00:22:30.500 --> 00:22:31.460
 really help

00:22:31.460 --> 00:22:31.960
 us to think

00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:32.580
 through Christian

00:22:32.580 --> 00:22:33.020
 forgiveness.

00:22:34.360 --> 00:22:34.700
 Christian

00:22:34.700 --> 00:22:35.300
 forgiveness is

00:22:35.300 --> 00:22:36.080
 not a sentimental

00:22:36.080 --> 00:22:36.780
 thing.

00:22:38.020 --> 00:22:38.780
 It's not

00:22:38.780 --> 00:22:39.860
 pretending that

00:22:39.860 --> 00:22:40.480
 sin doesn't

00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:40.900
 matter.

00:22:42.700 --> 00:22:43.140
 It isn't

00:22:43.140 --> 00:22:43.660
 letting the

00:22:43.660 --> 00:22:44.500
 offender off

00:22:44.500 --> 00:22:44.920
 the hook

00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:45.580
 without getting

00:22:45.580 --> 00:22:46.440
 him or her

00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:47.260
 to face up

00:22:47.259 --> 00:22:47.599
 to their

00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:48.180
 wrongdoing.

00:22:48.879 --> 00:22:49.359
 Christian

00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:49.879
 forgiveness

00:22:49.879 --> 00:22:51.859
 seeks to

00:22:51.859 --> 00:22:52.240
 bring the

00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:53.000
 wrongdoer to

00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:53.460
 repentance.

00:22:55.339 --> 00:22:56.079
 And when the

00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:57.259
 wrongdoer faces

00:22:57.259 --> 00:22:58.000
 up to his

00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:58.900
 wrongdoing and

00:22:58.900 --> 00:22:59.799
 repents the

00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:00.640
 individual and

00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:02.019
 the church must

00:23:02.019 --> 00:23:02.799
 totally and

00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:03.599
 completely forgive.

00:23:04.779 --> 00:23:05.259
 And Peter says

00:23:05.259 --> 00:23:05.859
 how often should

00:23:05.859 --> 00:23:06.519
 you do this?

00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:08.279
 Seven times.

00:23:08.339 --> 00:23:08.579
 He's being

00:23:08.579 --> 00:23:08.960
 generous.

00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:09.500
 Remember the

00:23:09.500 --> 00:23:10.279
 rabbis, the

00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:10.960
 local rabbis

00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:11.640
 said three times

00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:12.140
 and you're out.

00:23:14.059 --> 00:23:14.599
 And Peter is

00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:15.259
 being generous and

00:23:15.259 --> 00:23:15.819
 Jesus says no

00:23:15.819 --> 00:23:16.399
 70 times

00:23:16.399 --> 00:23:16.639
 son.

00:23:19.639 --> 00:23:20.220
 It doesn't

00:23:20.220 --> 00:23:20.779
 mean when you

00:23:20.779 --> 00:23:21.839
 get to 488

00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:22.939
 sins you say

00:23:22.939 --> 00:23:23.299
 to them listen

00:23:23.299 --> 00:23:23.700
 you've got two

00:23:23.700 --> 00:23:24.299
 more to go.

00:23:26.019 --> 00:23:26.599
 And then you

00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:27.319
 get 490

00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:27.779
 sins.

00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:28.579
 That's it.

00:23:30.579 --> 00:23:31.240
 Seven is a

00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:31.960
 significant number

00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:32.659
 to Jews isn't it?

00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:33.059
 It speaks of

00:23:33.059 --> 00:23:33.740
 completion and

00:23:33.740 --> 00:23:34.000
 fullness.

00:23:35.500 --> 00:23:35.879
 And actually

00:23:35.879 --> 00:23:36.319
 there's a really

00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:37.059
 interesting cross

00:23:37.059 --> 00:23:37.639
 reference with

00:23:37.639 --> 00:23:38.819
 Genesis 4 with

00:23:38.819 --> 00:23:39.500
 Lamech.

00:23:40.819 --> 00:23:41.700
 And Jesus is

00:23:41.700 --> 00:23:42.899
 actually reversing

00:23:42.899 --> 00:23:43.759
 the language of

00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:45.400
 Lamech, the

00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:46.099
 descendant of

00:23:46.099 --> 00:23:46.480
 Cain.

00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:47.879
 In Genesis 4

00:23:47.879 --> 00:23:48.859
 verse 23, Lamech

00:23:48.859 --> 00:23:49.640
 boasts and

00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:50.240
 says to his

00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:51.359
 wife, if Cain

00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:51.859
 is avenged

00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:52.879
 seven times,

00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:53.819
 then Lamech

00:23:53.819 --> 00:23:54.740
 seventy seven

00:23:54.740 --> 00:23:54.980
 times.

00:23:55.059 --> 00:23:55.680
 I'll go after

00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:55.819
 you.

00:23:55.859 --> 00:23:56.200
 Don't come

00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:56.559
 near me.

00:23:56.660 --> 00:23:57.700
 I'll go after

00:23:57.700 --> 00:23:57.980
 you.

00:23:58.359 --> 00:23:58.819
 And so it's

00:23:58.819 --> 00:23:59.420
 clear that the

00:23:59.420 --> 00:23:59.960
 opposite of

00:23:59.960 --> 00:24:00.799
 revenge is

00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:01.220
 forgiveness.

00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:06.339
 And Jesus

00:24:06.339 --> 00:24:06.759
 is saying

00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:07.640
 here there's

00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:08.259
 to be no

00:24:08.259 --> 00:24:08.900
 going after

00:24:08.900 --> 00:24:09.200
 people.

00:24:09.339 --> 00:24:09.619
 There's to

00:24:09.619 --> 00:24:09.920
 be no

00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:10.519
 revenge.

00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:11.799
 There's to

00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:12.460
 be no limits

00:24:12.460 --> 00:24:12.799
 to our

00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:13.420
 forgiveness of

00:24:13.420 --> 00:24:13.819
 one another.

00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:15.500
 There's no

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:16.319
 limit at all

00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:16.660
 to our

00:24:16.660 --> 00:24:16.980
 forgiveness.

00:24:19.059 --> 00:24:19.480
 And when you

00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:20.120
 consider what

00:24:20.120 --> 00:24:21.019
 God has

00:24:21.019 --> 00:24:22.380
 done and

00:24:22.380 --> 00:24:22.940
 God has

00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:24.039
 forgiven us,

00:24:25.259 --> 00:24:27.259
 we will be

00:24:27.259 --> 00:24:27.640
 able to

00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:29.240
 forgive those

00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:29.740
 who ask for

00:24:29.740 --> 00:24:29.920
 it.

00:24:32.100 --> 00:24:32.420
 And so

00:24:32.420 --> 00:24:32.920
 whenever a

00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:33.720
 person truly

00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:34.360
 repents,

00:24:34.460 --> 00:24:34.940
 and in Luke's

00:24:34.940 --> 00:24:35.400
 version of

00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:35.900
 this same

00:24:35.900 --> 00:24:36.559
 incident, it's

00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:37.240
 more clear.

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 Luke 17

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 verse 3,

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 if your

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 brother sins

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 rebuke him

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 and if he

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 repents,

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 forgive him.

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 And if he

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 sins against you

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 seven times in

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 the day and

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 turns to you

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 seven times

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 saying I

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 repent, you

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 must forgive

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 him.

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 God forgives

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 us when we

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 repent.

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 And we

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 forgive people

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 when they

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 repent.

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 That means

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 that the

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 forgiveness is

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 not identical

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 to reconciliation.

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 There are

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 people that

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 confuse that.

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 We seek to

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 offer forgiveness

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 to someone who

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 has been

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 sinned against

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 or against

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 the church.

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 we seek to

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 offer forgiveness.

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 We seek

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 reconciliation.

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 But that

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 reconciliation may

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 be refused.

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 That forgiveness

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 may be refused.

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 It may be

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 turned down.

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 And when that

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 happens, what

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 does a

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 forgiving spirit

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 do?

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 Well, a

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 forgiving spirit

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 shows itself by

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 not taking

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 revenge against

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 the person by

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 a refusal to

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 retaliate.

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 By a

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 refusal even to

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 say bad

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 things to

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 others or

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 bitter things to

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 others about

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 that person.

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 And we

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 pray for

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 God's

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 blessing on

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 that person.

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 We make it

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 clear to that

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 person we

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 want to offer

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 them forgiveness

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 and reconciliation.

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 But if at the

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 end of the day

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 they don't want

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 it, and they

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 turn that

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 reconciliation

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 when it

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 cannot be

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 achieved,

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 what should we

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 say to

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 offenders?

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 Should we

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 offer offenders

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 a blanket

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 kind of

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 forgiveness?

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 Is that what

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 we should do?

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 Is that what

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 we're called

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 to do?

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 If somebody

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 killed one of

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 my children,

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 what would I

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 want to say?

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 That's what I

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 think I'd want

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 to say.

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 I think I'd

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 like to meet

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 with them.

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 I'd like to

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 go and see

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 them in

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 prison.

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 I'd like that

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 person to see

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 the enormity

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 of what they've

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 done.

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 I would try

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 and bring that

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 person to

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 repentance.

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 repentance.

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 If that

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 person became

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 a Christian,

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 I would

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 sit down

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 and I would

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 share bread

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 and wine

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 with them.

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 But I

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 can't forgive

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 them fully

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 and completely

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 without some

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 indication of

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 confession and

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 repentance on

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 the part of

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 that person.

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 forgiven people

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 will be

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 forgiven people.

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 Forgiveness is

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 not easy.

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 It is

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 difficult.

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 But a

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 forgiven person

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 will always

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 seek to

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 extend that

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 forgiveness

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 to everyone

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 who sins

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 against them.

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 Let's pray.