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 My name is Matthew Capone and I'm one of the pastors here at Cheyenne Mountain Presbyterian Church and it's my joy to bring God's word to you today.

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 We are continuing this morning our series in the book of Romans. We're actually finishing it for a little bit. We're at the very last section in Romans chapter 8.

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 If you've been tracking, you know that next week we are going to start the story of Isaac returning back to the second half of Genesis chapter 25.

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 So this is our last hurrah for a little bit. You'll remember that Romans is a letter written by the Apostle Paul in the 50s AD.

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 You'll remember that Romans is called Romans because it is written to the churches in the city of Rome.

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 And you'll remember that it is about the gospel. It's about the good news of Jesus' life and death and resurrection.

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 And now we're at the very end of chapter 8, which I've been telling you is arguably the greatest chapter in the entire Bible.

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 And we're not just at that chapter, we're in the greatest section of the greatest chapter.

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 We're in the climax of chapter 8 and in a sense then the climax of the first eight chapters of the book of Romans.

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 I was talking to someone yesterday, I said, you know, so I'm preaching from Romans 8, which is the potentially the greatest chapter in the Bible.

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 And then we're at this section at the end, which is potentially the greatest section of the greatest chapter.

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 So no pressure.

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 And the point is this, of this passage before us.

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 If you belong to Jesus Christ, if he has chosen you, if you're one of his elect,

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 no matter what happens in this life, you cannot lose what matters most.

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 If you belong to Jesus Christ, if you're one of his sheep, if your name is written in the book of life,

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 no one and nothing can separate you from the love of God.

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 And so it's with that I invite you to turn with me to Romans chapter 8, starting at verse 35.

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 You'll find it on page 7 of your worship guide.

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 And as we come to this passage, remember that this is God's word.

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 Jeremiah chapter 23 tells us that God's word is like a hammer that breaks a rock into pieces,

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 which is a way of saying that there is nothing so powerful that God's word is not more powerful still.

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 And so that's why we read now Romans chapter 8, starting at verse 35.

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 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?

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 Shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?

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 As it is written, for your sake we are being killed all the day long.

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 We are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.

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 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

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 For I am sure that neither death nor life nor angels nor rulers nor things present nor things to come

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 nor powers nor height nor depth nor anything else in all creation

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 will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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 I invite you to pray with me as we come to this portion of God's word.

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 Our Father in heaven, we do praise you and thank you this morning for your great mercy and grace to us.

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 Not only in sending your son to die in our place, but for giving us your word.

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 For instructing us, for guiding us, for adopting us as your sons and daughters and promising us an inheritance.

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 Father, for giving us something so sure and unshakable that nothing in this world can threaten it.

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 We ask that you'd help us by your spirit this morning to understand your word.

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 That it would pierce to the center of our hearts.

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 Father, that it would move our affections, it would shake our minds.

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 That it would grow our love for Jesus Christ and our confidence in you.

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 And so that we would be people who are filled with great joy.

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 And we ask all of these things in Jesus' name.

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 Amen.

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 I have mentioned to you all before that my first time in the state of Colorado was in 2016.

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 It was my second year in seminary.

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 And I took a road trip from St. Louis out to Utah with a bunch of other students.

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 And it was a long drive, of course, from St. Louis to Utah.

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 But we decided we were just going to drive straight.

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 So, you know, we're seminary students.

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 We're young, poor.

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 So we drove straight.

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 Just took turns driving, driving, sleeping, sleeping, driving.

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 We had two different cars.

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 Neither of the cars were my car.

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 So I could kind of switch off between cars depending on circumstances and people.

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 And on this trip, I had with me a secret weapon.

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 My secret weapon was a book written by a man named Gary Poole called this.

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 The Complete Book of Questions.

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 A thousand and one conversation starters for any occasion.

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 So if you were in the car with me, or more appropriately, accurately, if I was in your car,

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 you got to answer my favorite questions.

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 And question 405 of 1001 is this.

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 If you were able to retrieve only one item on the way out of your burning home,

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 what would it be?

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 Survival.

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 Explain.

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 Now, item, by the way, means it's an inanimate object.

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 So you are not allowed to name a family member.

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 You are not allowed to name a pet.

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 Those are not items.

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 And the question, of course, reveals a lot.

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 What sort of person are you?

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 Are you a practical person?

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 You know, you do say, well, I take my passport.

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 Of course, that might not mean you're practical.

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 It may just mean you love to travel.

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 Or are you a sentimental person?

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 Do you say, well, I have to take the family photo albums that cannot be replaced, right?

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 Or the letters that I cannot replicate.

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 The question forces you to answer, you know, what is most valuable to you?

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 What is irreplaceable?

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 What can you not afford to lose?

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 Of course, it's hard because the question says one item, not three items.

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 I don't make the rules.

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 Okay.

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 This passage before us this morning is about that same thing.

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 What is it that you can lose in this world?

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 And what is it that you cannot lose?

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 What matters more?

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 What matters less?

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 What matters the most?

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 No matter what happens in this life, there's one thing that you want to keep.

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 That's God's love.

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 The passage is telling us even more than that.

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 It's not just that that's one thing that you want to keep.

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 It is one thing that you will keep.

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 It's the question Paul is asking in verse 35.

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 Is there anything that we can do to lose God's love?

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 Is there anything that someone else might do to take God's love away from us?

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 That's what he's asking at the beginning of 35.

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 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?

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 And then he lists some options.

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 Tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword.

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 Now some people focus in on each of those items and try to figure out what's different between them.

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 That's not wrong, but perhaps it misses the forest for the trees

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 because Paul's larger point in having this list is to highlight the most extreme sufferings of this world.

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 Whatever you go through, the worst thing that can happen to you in life,

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 it fits into one of these categories.

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 Paul then, in verse 36, goes on to help us understand he's not exaggerating.

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 Telling us in 36, hey, these things actually really could happen to you.

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 And he does that by reminding us of the potential for suffering as a Christian.

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 Verse 36, as it is written,

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 For your sake we are being killed all the day long.

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 We are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.

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 And Paul there is quoting from the Old Testament.

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 He's quoting from Psalm 44, verse 22.

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 And the psalmist is saying,

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 Look, God, we are suffering because we belong to you.

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 The New Testament would put it this way.

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 We're suffering because we're Christians.

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 I mentioned this before.

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 The New Testament repeats this in 2 Timothy chapter 3.

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 Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

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 So the question is, hey, will we be able to hold up if and when persecution comes?

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 Is God powerful enough to sustain us through that?

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 Is God so faithful that we will be able to persevere?

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 Is verse 28 of Romans chapter 8 really true?

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 Will God actually work all things, and we mean all things, for our good?

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 Are verses 29 through 31 actually true?

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 Does God actually guarantee that those he chooses, he elects,

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 really go all the way to glorification?

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 Can we survive the worst forms of suffering?

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 Or will they take us?

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 Will they take us under?

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 It's more, verse 37 gives us the answer.

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 Will we mess it up?

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 No.

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 No, the worst suffering in the world, persecution for the sake of the name of Jesus Christ,

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 is not powerful enough to separate you from God's love.

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 Tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, and nakedness, danger, and sword are no match for God's steadfast love.

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 Paul tells us, though, it's more than a no.

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 It's not that it just, it won't tank you.

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 Actually, all of those things will result in you coming out on top.

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 Those things are actually going to work out really well for you.

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 Verse 37 again,

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 In all these things we are more than conquerors.

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 Now what does it mean to be not just a conqueror, but more than a conqueror?

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 Well, it means that verse 28 of Romans chapter 8 is true.

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 If all things work for our good, and they do,

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 all of these things, all these sufferings, will result in our good as well.

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 God will use them.

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 God will use tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, and nakedness, danger, and sword.

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 God will use them as part of your ultimate glorification.

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 So it's not just that these things can't separate you.

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 No, they're actually going to be at work for your good.

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 There's a concept that's become recent, popular in recent years called antifragility.

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 It's actually a new word coined by a man named Nassim Tlaib,

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 who wrote a book by the same name.

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 And if something is antifragile, it is the opposite of fragile,

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 which is to say suffering actually makes it more powerful.

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 Hardship, if something is antifragile, hardship is for its benefit.

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 The classic example is the muscles in your body.

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 If you lift heavy weights, you get micro tears in your muscles, and what happens?

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 You get stronger.

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 So your muscles are not fragile, they're antifragile.

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 Suffering and hardship make them greater and better.

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 Paul is telling us the same thing is true of the Christian life.

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 When we encounter suffering, when we encounter tribulation, distress, persecution,

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 famine, and nakedness, or danger, or sword, it grows and increases our faith.

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 It works for our good.

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 Those things increase and multiply the fruit of the Spirit in your life.

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 Those things mean that your eyes are more easily fixed on heaven.

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 Those things mean our trust in God grows and grows and grows.

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 So those things, they're not, it's not just that they're not going to separate you from the love of God.

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 They're actually going to make you more than a conqueror.

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 They're going to make your faith stronger than ever before.

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 By the way, when Paul says more than a conqueror in the Greek,

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 it basically means you're going to be a super winner.

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 You're not just a regular winner.

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 You're a mega winner.

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 Okay?

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 To be a Christian is to be antifragile.

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 It's more than winning.

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 It's actually a net positive.

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 All those things are going to end up for your good.

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 In 1967, the pastor, Richard Wurmbrand, published his book called Tortured for Christ,

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 and it told his story of 14 years in a communist prison, or communist Russia,

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 and he had suffered there for his faith in Christ.

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 He was a pastor.

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 He was sharing the good news of the gospel, so they threw him in prison.

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 And in it, he tells the story of a woman named Veria.

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 Veria converts to Christianity.

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 She becomes obsessed with her new faith, and she is sharing it constantly.

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 And so because of that, she gets thrown into a Russian labor prison.

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 Okay?

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 She's in a slave labor camp.

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 While she's in this slave labor camp, under communist Russia,

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 she writes a couple letters that Richard records in his book,

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 and there's an excerpt from one of them on the back of your worship guide.

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 She's drawing here from Romans chapter 8.

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 Who can separate us from the love of God in Christ?

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 Nobody and nothing.

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 Neither prison nor suffering.

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 The suffering that God sends us only strengthens us more and more in the faith in him.

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 My heart is so full that the grace of God overflows.

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 At work, and when she says at work, that's a euphemism.

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 She's saying in my slave labor camp under communist Russia, okay,

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 at work, they curse and punish me, giving me extra work because I cannot be silent.

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 And what is it that she's not silent about?

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 It's not her love for marinara sauce.

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 She can't be silent about the grace of God in Jesus Christ.

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 And when she refuses to be silent about the grace of God in Jesus Christ,

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 they curse and punish her, giving her extra work.

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 I must tell everyone what the Lord has done for me.

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 He has made me a new being, a new creation of me who is on the way of perdition.

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 Can I be silent after this?

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 No, never.

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 As long as my lips can speak, I will witness to everyone about his great love.

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 And that's verses 36 and 37.

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 Verse 36, she's suffering for the name of Jesus Christ.

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 Verse 37, that suffering doesn't separate her from the love of God.

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 In fact, it does something even more.

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 It makes her more than a conqueror.

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 Her faith is greater than it was before.

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 She's a super winner.

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 God is using her as part of his mission.

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 By the way, that was the last letter she sends.

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 And Warren Brand goes on to tell us she was never heard from again.

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 Baria was more than a conqueror through him who loved her.

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 That's Paul's next statement in verse 37.

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 He answers the question, how or why is it that this suffering actually increases our faith,

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 grows our faith?

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 It is through him who loved us.

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 Now, commentators make a big point of the fact that loved is in the past tense.

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 Could have easily said him who loves us currently, right?

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 Which is true.

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 God does love his people currently.

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 But the past tense is to emphasize what God has already accomplished

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 through the life and death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

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 In other words, Paul's reminding us he's presenting the greatest act of God's love,

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 which is what Jesus did for us on the cross.

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 That's the love that we don't want to be separated from.

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 That, by the way, is how Paul defined God's love earlier in the book.

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 Remember, Romans chapter 5, verse 8,

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 God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

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 So this is not touchy-feely love.

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 This is not abstract love.

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 This is not vague love.

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 It's not love as an idea or a concept or a philosophy.

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 No, Paul's saying you know Jesus' love because of what he did.

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 You know it because of what he did in the past.

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 And Romans chapter 8 is now cataloging the consequences, the effects, the impacts,

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 the benefits, the privileges of that love.

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 So when we say that we cannot be separated from the love of God in Jesus Christ,

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 we are saying this.

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 It means that you cannot lose what Paul taught about in Romans 8, verse 30.

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 You cannot be separated from glorification.

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 You will have a perfect body and you will be sinless in the presence of God.

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 It means you cannot be separated from the reality of verse 28.

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 You cannot lose the fact that all things in your life work together for good.

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 It means you cannot lose what we talked about last week, verses 32 through 34,

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 your protection against successful accusation and successful condemnation.

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 Nothing can take that away from you.

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 It means you can't lose verse 18, that your glorious future in heaven,

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 remember the future against which it is not worth comparing the present, can't be lost.

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 It means that no matter what comes, verses 26 and 27 are true for you,

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 that God's Holy Spirit is groaning for you, praying on your behalf to God the Father

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 with groans too deep for words.

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 That is the love that you cannot lose.

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 It means that verses 14 through 17 of Romans chapter 8 are true and cannot disappear,

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 that you are God's child who's been adopted with a glorious future and inheritance.

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 That is what it means that you cannot lose the love of God.

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 All the benefits of Jesus' death and resurrection.

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 Because that's what chapter 8 is.

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 Remember, chapter 8 is life in the Spirit, life basking in the love of God.

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 Life lived with all the benefits that come with being a child of God.

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 Now, Paul has listed persecution and suffering.

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 He then goes on to list everything else.

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 This is verses 38 through 39.

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 For I am sure that neither death nor life nor angels nor rulers nor things present nor things to come

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 nor powers nor height nor depth nor anything else in all creation

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 will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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 Now, commentators love to talk about what is the difference between height and depth and angels and rulers

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 and what kind of rulers are these?

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 And when we think about things present and things to come,

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 like how do we distinguish between those?

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 The point is not to hyper-focus on any of those obstacles.

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 The point of Paul is to capture everything.

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 Paul's goal here is to be comprehensive.

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 You think of something that can separate you from God, it's on the list.

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 Whatever you come up with.

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 You know, I was a school teacher for a while and you have kids raise their hands and just say the craziest things.

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 Yeah, but what if such and such and such?

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 It doesn't matter.

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 Anything, everything, whatever you think of, it cannot separate you from God's love.

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 And just in case Paul thinks he might have missed something, he adds at the very end, verse 39,

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 nor anything else in all creation.

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 Okay, that's Paul being a really good lawyer.

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 Okay, you think you can find a loophole?

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 Well, I got the anything in all creation clause.

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 So you're done, okay?

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 You think you can find something that can separate for you from God?

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 I've covered it all.

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 This contract is watertight.

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 It's impenetrable.

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 I am the best lawyer you will come up against.

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 No, nothing, nothing that you imagine, nothing that you fear will get in the way.

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 Now, this passage lists a lot of bad things.

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 And it doesn't say that those things won't happen to you.

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 It doesn't say you won't have persecution or tribulation or trials.

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 It says they won't thank you.

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 It says that no matter what happens, no matter what you lose, you can't lose what matters most.

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 No matter what someone in this world can touch in your life, they can't touch this.

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 Whatever happens with artificial intelligence or the stock market or Iran or your marriage or your kids,

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 none of it will separate you from the love of God.

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 Verse 39, Paul gives us a clarifying category.

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 He says we'll be able to separate us.

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 Us is not everyone.

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 Us is Paul's audience, that is the Christians in the churches in the city of Rome,

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 and by extension, Christians throughout time and around the world.

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 So the promise is for those who love God and follow him in faith.

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 Is that you?

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 Do you want the type of security that Paul speaks of here?

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 Do you want to know that no matter what you come up against here, now, or in the future,

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 and no matter what you fear from the past,

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 God's love cannot be lost?

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 If you want that, you can have it.

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 But it is for those and only those who follow Jesus in faith.

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 It's the great inheritance, blessing, the promise for Christians.

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 Romans is the fifth gospel.

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 And whatever Paul teaches, Jesus taught first.

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 John chapter 16.

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 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace.

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 In the world you will have tribulation.

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 It's a promise, by the way.

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 People like to talk about claiming the promises of God.

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 Never heard someone claim the promise that they will have tribulation.

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 But take heart, I have overcome the world.

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 Jesus has overcome the world.

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 Nothing can separate you from his love.

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 Romans is the fifth gospel.

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 What Paul teaches, Jesus taught first.

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 John chapter 10.

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 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

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 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish.

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 And no one will snatch them out of my hand.

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 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all.

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 And no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.

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 I and the Father are one.

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 I started out this morning by telling you about question 405.

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 If you were able to retrieve only one item on the way out of your burning home,

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 what would that be?

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 Explain.

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 Praise God.

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 It is not our job to rescue God's love out of a burning building.

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 Instead, the very opposite is what is true.

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 It is God who rescues us.

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 We can't lose it, no matter what comes.

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 Let's pray.

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 Our Father in heaven, we do praise you and thank you for the greatness of your love in Jesus Christ.

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 We ask that you would help us to understand it, to comprehend it, to see it,

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 and that it would change our lives from the inside out.

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 We ask these things in Jesus' name.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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