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 Let me give you a few events and you see if you can guess what they have in common.

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 These are all from 2014.

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 Event number one, March 7th.

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 Newsweek wrote an article and in that article they claimed to have discovered the inventor of Bitcoin.

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 Event number two, May 15th.

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 A company called Free People put out an ad featuring a ballet dancer.

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 Turns out later that the person portraying a ballet dancer in the ad wasn't actually a ballet dancer.

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 Event three, August 28th.

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 It was announced that Hello Kitty is not in fact a cat.

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 I have no doubt that you remember with great detail each of these events.

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 And they have each made an indelible mark on your psyche.

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 If you don't remember these events, they all happened in 2014.

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 The thing that they have in common is this.

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 Each one of these events, when it happened or when the announcement was made or when the ad came out,

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 catalyzed an enormous outpouring of rage and condemnation and anger in the Twittersphere.

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 Internet outrage.

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 Outrage.

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 Outrage.

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 And I found all of these from an article published on Slate about the year 2014, which they dubbed the year of outrage.

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 And they actually, if you haven't seen this, it's pretty entertaining.

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 I spent way, way too much time looking at this this week.

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 But they have a calendar, an interactive calendar, with every single day of 2014.

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 And they were able to find something on every day that created a massive outpouring of vitriol and hatred and condemnation and disgust on the Internet.

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 It was the year of outrage.

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 Outrage.

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 And what this tells us, and there were a lot of articles about this, is that more and more and more we live in an outrage culture.

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 We live in an outrage culture.

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 It's as though we used to get our drama from soap operas, and then we moved to reality TV shows, and now we just have reality.

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 And, but we have access to so much reality at any given moment, it provides an endless font of entertainment, an endless fodder for outrage over reaction.

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 And it's interesting to see how this permeates every aspect of culture.

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 Some of it is legitimate.

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 A lot of it is not.

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 But outrage is sort of the emotion du jour of our time.

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 And, you know, it's even in some ways permeated Advent a little bit.

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 You know, it's very easy if you're a part of this community to, you know, that you might experience that there are tensions,

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 like the tension between people who have been here a while, the kind of old timers and then the newcomers, right?

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 There's tensions that exist between people who live in Northwest and people who live in Northeast, you know?

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 There's tension that exists between people who have kids and people who don't have kids, and kind of mutual resentments that, kind of rumblings, you know?

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 There's tension between people who are single and people who are married.

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 There's all different kinds of sort of tensions that can bubble up, and you feel that sense of the outrage culture kind of seeping in through the cracks of the windows and the doors.

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 And I think that there's a reason why outrage is so popular.

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 It's pretty common sense.

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 It's because it feels good.

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 It feels good.

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 You know, righteous indignation feels good.

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 You feel powerful.

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 You feel right.

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 You feel vindicated.

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 It feels really good to know that there's a line in the sand, and thank God you're on the right side of it.

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 You know, not so much the other people.

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 It feels good.

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 It feels powerful.

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 But the thing is, when Jesus is teaching about the kingdom of God, he says the kingdom of God doesn't have an outrage culture.

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 It has a forgiveness culture.

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 It has a forgiveness culture.

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 And unlike outrage, forgiveness doesn't initially feel good.

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 It actually feels the opposite.

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 It feels bad.

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 It hurts.

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 It's hard.

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 It makes you feel weak.

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 It makes you feel a lack of fairness, an injustice.

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 These are the feelings that are associated with true forgiveness.

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 Even the rabbis in Jesus' day, even the rabbis, believed that forgiveness should have limitations.

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 They taught that you should forgive around three times max.

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 You know, one offense, you should forgive.

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 Two offenses, well, that's possible.

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 You should forgive.

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 Three offenses, well, we want to be generous people.

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 But after that, you're probably being taken advantage of, and so you should withhold forgiveness.

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 Three times max.

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 Seven times.

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 So when Peter comes to Jesus in this section of Matthew that we've just read, and Peter says, well, how many times should we forgive?

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 Seven?

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 Well, Peter is doing the math, and he's thinking, well, the rabbis, the rabbis say a maximum of three, but Jesus is always blowing our minds.

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 And so Jesus is probably going to say something more than three.

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 So to be on the safe side, I'm going to say this ridiculous number.

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 Seven?

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 Seven?

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 And then if you look at Jesus' response, it's either translated 77 or 70 times 7.

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 But either way, the point is clear.

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 Jesus is saying, in the kingdom of God, forgiveness is unconditional and unlimited.

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 He's saying, in the kingdom of God, the culture is this, that you forgive.

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 Ad infinitum.

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 You forgive, and you forgive, and you forgive, and you forgive.

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 At the heart of the kingdom of God, which is the kingdom that Jesus has brought into this world, there is unconditional, unlimited forgiveness.

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 And here's the thing we're going to look at tonight.

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 Unless we understand that and what it means, we can't really understand Jesus.

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 And unless that kind of forgiveness is a reality in our lives, we really, in no meaningful sense, can be a part of the kingdom of God.

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 Harsh words.

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 But that's what it says.

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 So we're going to look at Matthew chapter 18, verses 15 to 17, and then 21 to 35, under three headers.

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 Why is forgiveness necessary?

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 Why is it necessary?

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 What does forgiveness require?

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 And then how is forgiveness like this even possible?

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 Let's pray.

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 Father, even with a bit of humor, Lord, we don't want to overshadow the severity of this issue.

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 I know that many of us in this room have or even are now struggling with deep hurt and pain.

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 Lord, we may be looking at situations and we cannot even imagine forgiving, much less going a day without thinking about the hurt that we've experienced, Lord.

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 I know this reality in my own heart, as you well know, God.

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 And we ask collectively that what we cannot do on our own, you would do in us through your word tonight.

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 And we ask this in your son's name.

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 Amen.

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 So first of all, the question we want to ask is this.

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 Why is forgiveness so necessary?

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 Why is it crucial?

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 And there's really two reasons we can see in this passage.

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 The first section of the passage, you realize there's kind of two sections here.

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 There's teaching that Jesus gives on how the community should operate when it comes to sin and conflict.

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 And then there's a parable.

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 And the hinge is this question that Peter asks.

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 But in the opening of our passage, Jesus is teaching about the community and how the community should handle and respond to sin in its midst.

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 And you see in verses 15 to 17, Jesus is actually describing a specific process for handling sin and conflict.

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 And you can see that sometimes it involves the whole community.

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 You should go and talk to the person one-on-one about the issue.

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 Talk to them.

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 Figure out what's actually going on.

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 Is sin involved?

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 If there is and they don't recognize it, they don't own it, then you should go and bring a couple of witnesses.

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 And then if the person still refuses to acknowledge the sin, then you should bring it to the community.

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 And then if the community is still unable to persuade this person that the sin is a reality, then they need to be treated as a tax collector or a Gentile.

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 And if that sounds harsh to you, remember that Jesus loves tax collectors and Gentiles.

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 In other words, this person should be treated as though they have erected a barrier between themselves and God, which is effectively what it is.

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 So that's what it's saying.

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 And we read this, we look at this, and some people read this and say, well, why do we need a process?

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 In fact, why is my life or what I choose to do anybody else's business?

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 You know, I can't imagine being in a community where people would actually come and butt into the way I'm living my life.

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 I'm not hurting anybody.

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 And all of a sudden, I've got people coming to me and talking to me about what I should or shouldn't be doing.

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 What a horrible judgmental community.

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 That's because we tend to think of these things purely in individualistic ways.

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 We think that they are things that only affect us.

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 But the Bible would say that's really, really naive.

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 It actually makes clear in a number of places that the choices we make, and especially our sin and especially conflict we may have with other people,

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 that that invariably has an impact on the people around us.

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 Not only the people that we know and care about, but maybe even people we don't know we're impacting.

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 You know, there's a place, Hebrews 12, warns about the root of bitterness.

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 And it talks about how if the root of bitterness takes hold and is allowed to grow, it can set in and defile an entire community.

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 So when you think about unresolved conflict or unaddressed sin or resentment or bitterness, think of them like toxic waste.

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 Right?

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 And what do we do with toxic waste?

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 We have a very specific process for disposing of it so that we don't impact the ecosystem.

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 These are very much the same thing.

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 If we don't have a process to dispose of things like bitterness and resentment, they will have a toxic effect on the entire ecosystem.

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 And so the Bible says take this very seriously.

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 You have to handle this with great care because the whole community is in danger.

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 So that's the first reason forgiveness is necessary.

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 The second is this.

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 Forgiveness is evidence of your relationship with God.

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 It's evidence of the quality or the kind of relationship that you have with God.

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 In the parable, the king has this servant brought to him who owes him this extraordinary debt.

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 We'll get more into that later.

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 And the king is going to sell him and his family all to pay back the debt.

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 And the servant begs for forgiveness and the king grants it.

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 Huge, huge act of forgiveness.

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 And then the servant goes out and instead of that act of forgiveness changing the servant and making the servant himself more forgiving in his own life,

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 we see that the servant goes out.

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 He encounters somebody who owes him a small sum of money and he's hardened and he's almost cruel.

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 Right?

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 He actually chokes the man.

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 So there's bitterness and anger and, you know, you can almost imagine that he's been stewing on this debt maybe for years.

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 You know, and then he finally sees the servant and he's like, and all that anger comes out and he grabs him and he throttles him and he has him thrown in prison.

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 Right?

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 And so then the king hears about this and the king brings the servant back and says,

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 I showed you great mercy, but you didn't show mercy and therefore what does he do?

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 He has him taken and given to the jailers.

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 But that's a nice translation.

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 The word actually means tormentors.

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 He gives him over to the tormentors.

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 And just so that we can't wiggle out of it,

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 Jesus then makes sure that we, he, it's almost as though he's spelling it out like you would for a child.

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 He says, this is a metaphor.

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 And what I'm actually saying is this.

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 My heavenly father will do the same thing to you if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.

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 And so you read this and, and, and the point it's making is this.

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 People who refuse to give, to forgive are headed for eternal torment.

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 And you read this and, you know, it's amazing what the commentators try to do to kind of nuance this.

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 You know, and it's, and it's amazingly tempting to want to kind of say, well, what, this is really a metaphor for the relationship between Israel and the larger Roman Empire.

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 And, you know, just kind of, but that's not what's going on.

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 Jesus is clearly making a statement here.

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 Now, what he's not saying is this.

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 He's not saying that forgiving others is a way that we earn God's forgiveness.

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 You could read it that way.

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 That's not, that's not true because it doesn't line up with any of what the rest of scripture says.

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 One of the best ways to know that your interpretation is, is along the right lines is if it, in any way, if it, does it, does it reinforce what the rest of scripture says?

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 Or does it challenge or contradict what the rest of scripture says?

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 And we know that that wouldn't be correct.

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 As we say every week, for Christians, our relationship with God is not based on what we do for God, but what God has done for us, right?

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 Through Jesus Christ.

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 But what this is saying is this.

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 It's, it's, it's kind of a spiritual principle.

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 And here's the principle of the parable.

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 The degree to which we believe that we have been forgiven by God and that we needed that forgiveness is the degree to which we will forgive others.

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 The degree to which we believe that we have truly been forgiven by God is the degree to which we will forgive others.

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 It's a barometer.

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 So if you're a Christian and you say, I believe that I, that, that God has forgiven me and Jesus forgiven my sin, that he's reconciled me to himself and that makes me a Christian.

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 And yet there is no evidence of a willingness to forgive in your life at all.

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 That you hold on to, you know, anger and bitterness and resentment and you refuse to forgive and you, you, you only want to see justice done and you want to, you want payback.

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 Then what this would say is you need to question your relationship with God.

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 What that's really about is do you really believe, was there ever a point when you actually believed you needed the forgiveness?

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 Or are you just saying the words?

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 So our willingness to forgive others is evidence of the genuineness of our relationship with God based on his forgiveness of us.

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 So forgiveness is necessary because it's, it one, it's necessary for the health of the community.

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 And two, it's necessary because it's evidence of the actual quality of our relationship with God.

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 Is it genuine or not?

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 So that's why it's necessary.

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 That leads us to the second question is, as we talk about forgiveness, what is it?

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 What does forgiveness require?

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 And this parable shows us that there are actually four parts to genuine forgiveness.

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 And there are four necessary parts.

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 One of the nice things about this parable is the king shows us exactly what forgiveness looks like.

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 In verses 24 to 27, you see the king do four things.

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 First, the king recognizes the wrong.

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 Then the king takes pity.

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 And then he cancels the debt.

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 And then he lets the man go.

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 So I want to look at each of those four things.

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 The first thing that we see here, the first kind of where forgiveness begins, is this.

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 And this is something that we mostly can skip over.

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 It's so easy to not do this.

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 And yet I don't believe that true forgiveness is possible unless we do this.

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 The first thing the king does is he identifies the wrong.

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 And in the parable, the wrong is what?

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 What's the wrong that's been done?

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 The servant owes the king 10,000 talents.

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 It's a huge sum of money.

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 And the king is very clear on how much is owed him.

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 The king isn't kind of cloudy on the debt.

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 The king knows exactly, probably down to the penny, exactly what the debt is.

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 Because it's a huge sum of money.

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 This is the kind of sum of money that might put the king's kingdom in jeopardy.

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 It's that much money.

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 The king's very clear on how much is owed.

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 And this thing, this need to be clear on the debt is essential for true forgiveness.

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 In other words, you must be able to honestly and accurately name the hurt or the wrong or the debt that has been created in your life.

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 Because we all have default tendencies.

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 I mean, think about the last time you were hurt.

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 Think about the last time that somebody wronged you or let you down.

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 We all have default tendencies, right?

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 Some of us tend to be minimizers.

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 Somebody does something that's hurtful and your immediate gut reaction is to say, oh, don't worry about it.

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 No big deal.

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 I totally understand.

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 I know you were just tired that day.

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 I know you were just upset.

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 It's no big deal.

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 Really?

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 I really don't care.

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 It's no big deal.

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 No big deal.

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 That's minimizing, right?

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 Even if it really hurt you, you find the words tumbling out of your mouth, you know?

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 Maybe somebody stood you up and you sat there waiting for, you know, three hours and they never came.

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 And they come back and say, oh, man, I'm sorry.

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 Oh, it's no big deal.

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 No big deal, right?

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 Other people, so those are minimizers.

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 We, others of us, have the opposite tendency.

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 We're kind of maximizers.

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 You know, you can kind of find a reason to be offended in almost every situation.

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 You tend to read situations in ways that are hurtful to you.

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 You tend to assume the worst about other people's motives.

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 If something happens and it's ambiguous as to exactly what was going on, you will tend to interpret it in a way that is most hurtful to you.

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 You can tend to blow things out of proportion.

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 You can tend toward the dramatic, right?

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 So we all have our tendencies in ways that this becomes distorted.

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 And so forgiveness, true forgiveness begins when we have an accurate assessment and we can name the hurt that's done.

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 Without minimizing it, without blowing it out of proportion, naming it for what it is, right?

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 You've got to name the debt.

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 Recognize it.

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 The second step is this.

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 Once you've named it, once you're aware of the hurt and are able to name it and identify it as best you can, take pity.

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 Take pity.

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 The word here is actually pretty fascinating.

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 The Greek word literally means that your heart goes out to somebody.

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 It actually refers to your bowels, but in the Greek world that referred to your, that was kind of like talking about your heart.

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 The seed of your love, the seed of your emotions.

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 That being stirred or moved or even going out to somebody.

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 Empathy.

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 So what we're talking about is what?

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 Empathy.

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 That's what we're talking about.

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 Empathy.

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 Knowing, being able to identify with somebody.

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 Being able to know what it's like to be them.

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 Being able to imagine what they must feel like in their situation.

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 So when somebody hurts or wrongs you, the temptation is to do a couple of things.

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 You know, first the temptation is to over-focus on your own victimhood.

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 Right?

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 You kind of stew on it.

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 You stew on how bad you were wronged.

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 Which can lead to self-pity and it can lead to bitterness.

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 Right?

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 And you stew on how wrong it was and how egregious it was and you can't believe that they did that to you.

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 And you just kind of like meditate on that.

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 That's the first temptation is to kind of exaggerate your victimhood.

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 The other temptation that comes along with that is to dehumanize the perpetrator.

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 You see them less and less and less in your mind as you think about it and relive the events again and again and again.

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 They cease to become a three-dimensional flesh and blood human being.

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 And more and more and more they become a one-dimensional cardboard cutout of a person.

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 Defined pretty much exclusively by the wrong.

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 They become not just a person who's morally, you know, ambiguous and good and bad and a mix.

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 But somebody who's evil.

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 In other words, when somebody hurts us, I think the temptation is to widen the gap between us and them.

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 You know?

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 We imagine ourselves ten foot high in a pulpit.

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 And we imagine them kind of groveling down on the ground.

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 You know?

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 And we look at them from our place of self-righteous victimhood.

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 Miroslav Volf, who's written a lot about this, says this.

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 He says,

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 Forgiveness flounders because I exclude the enemy from the community of humans,

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 even as I exclude myself from the community of sinners.

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 That's a brilliant quote.

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 Forgiveness flounders because I exclude the enemy from the community of humans,

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 even as I exclude myself from the community of sinners.

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 Jesus is saying forgiveness requires us to close that gap.

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 It requires us to send our hearts out to the person,

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 to have compassion for, to identify with the person who has wronged us.

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 And to do it to the point where we can see that even though,

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 even though we have been wronged,

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 and even though in this particular situation I was sinned against,

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 I'm also a sinner.

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 And we do it to the point where we realize that even though this perpetrator

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 may have brought great evil against us,

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 he or she is still a human being.

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 I'm still a sinner.

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 They're still a human being.

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 And in fact, as much as I hate to admit it,

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 we have much more in common than I would like to admit.

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 We have to close the gap

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 by sending our heart out to be with them.

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 Now, this does not mean,

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 this does not mean that we deny the evil that has been done against us, right?

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 It doesn't, again, we don't minimize that.

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 If you've been seriously hurt or you've been seriously abused,

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 and I know some of you, your stories,

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 and I know that you have.

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 I know some of you have had experiences like that,

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 and I don't know about it.

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 Maybe nobody knows about it.

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 But if you've been seriously hurt or abused or wronged in your life,

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 those actions are evil.

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 They're wicked.

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 And so being able to, as we said before,

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 name and pronounce them as being evil

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 is a part of what forgiveness requires.

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 So I'm not saying that,

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 but what I am saying is

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 you have to strive and do the hard work

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 of sending your heart out past the evil,

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 down, down, down, into that person

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 until you find their humanness.

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 Until you're able to recognize

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 that on some deep level,

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 you are the same.

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 That you're the same.

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 That there is a commonality between you

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 that you can identify with them.

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 So you have pity.

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 You have empathy.

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 You cultivate empathy.

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 This can take years

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 to cultivate even a shred of empathy

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 for somebody who has wronged you.

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 That's the second thing.

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 The third thing,

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 once you've named the wrong,

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 once you've identified it,

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 and once you have begun to be able

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 to cultivate some degree of empathy,

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 then you cancel the debt.

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 You cancel the debt.

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 Once you've been able to get to this point,

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 you have to recognize

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 that whenever there is a wrong done,

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 there's a debt that has to be paid.

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 Whenever there's a wrong done,

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 there's a debt that has to be paid.

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 So if I borrow your car

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 and I take it out and I wreck it,

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 there's a debt that has to be paid.

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 And either I'm going to pay it

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 and get the car repaired,

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 or you're going to pay it

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 and get the car repaired.

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 But somebody has to pay.

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 And you say,

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 well, what if nobody has the car repaired?

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 Well, still the damage has been done

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 and the value of the car

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 has been decreased

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 because of that damage.

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 And if I don't pay you,

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 then you have to just

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 incur that debt yourself.

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 It's a loss that you have to bear.

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 And this is what forgiveness means.

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 Forgiveness means

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 that you pay the debt

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 on behalf of the perpetrator

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 as a gift to them.

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 That you take the debt

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 that is owed you

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 and you transform it into a gift.

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 That's really what forgiveness is.

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 It's transforming a debt

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 into a gift.

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 Transforming something

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 that is owed you

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 into something that you give.

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 And this is the same

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 with emotional hurt,

00:24:37.580 --> 00:24:38.600
 which is far more common.

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 Someone says or does

00:24:41.080 --> 00:24:42.120
 something hurtful to you,

00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:43.759
 they're still the same choice.

00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.599
 Either you make them pay

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 or you pay it on their behalf.

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 It's very tempting and easy

00:24:53.059 --> 00:24:54.519
 to want to make that person pay.

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 And how do we do that?

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 Well, all kinds of ways.

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 We're all very creative at this.

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 You can maybe say

00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:03.079
 directly hurtful things

00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:04.920
 or use sarcasm.

00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.920
 Or you can emotionally withdraw

00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:09.180
 and cut that person off.

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 Maybe you can treat them like dirt.

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 Or maybe you slander them

00:25:14.100 --> 00:25:14.740
 to other people.

00:25:15.220 --> 00:25:16.940
 Now, you're not going to actually

00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:18.240
 go out and directly say,

00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:19.740
 listen, I'm getting ready

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 to slander somebody.

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 Get ready.

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 What you'll do is

00:25:22.860 --> 00:25:23.860
 you'll go to your small group

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 and you'll say,

00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:25.500
 guys, I need to process

00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:26.259
 something with you.

00:25:27.100 --> 00:25:27.860
 I need to process

00:25:27.860 --> 00:25:29.080
 this relationship with you.

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 Can I just process this with you?

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 Because I want to be authentic

00:25:32.320 --> 00:25:33.259
 and I want to be transparent.

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 So let me just process this with you.

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 And I just want to get your feedback.

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 And then you'll rip

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 that person to shreds.

00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:39.840
 And what you want to do

00:25:39.840 --> 00:25:40.700
 is you want to,

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:42.680
 when we do that,

00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:43.420
 if we're really honest,

00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:44.220
 what are we trying to do?

00:25:44.360 --> 00:25:45.680
 We're trying to get the people

00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:46.340
 that are listening

00:25:46.340 --> 00:25:48.360
 to hate that person

00:25:48.360 --> 00:25:49.259
 as much as we do.

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 And the minute you get somebody

00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:51.940
 to say,

00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.519
 I can't believe they did that to you.

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 Man, what a jerk.

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 I can't believe that.

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 That's crazy.

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 You feel better.

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 It vindicates you.

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 Because you're like,

00:26:01.080 --> 00:26:01.980
 I got somebody else

00:26:01.980 --> 00:26:02.980
 on my side now.

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 And so we can go around

00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:05.620
 in the name of authenticity

00:26:05.620 --> 00:26:06.340
 and transparency

00:26:06.339 --> 00:26:07.179
 and processing

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 and emotional honesty

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 and all that stuff.

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 Just recruiting people.

00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:11.419
 Right?

00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:13.019
 Recruiting fellow haters.

00:26:13.859 --> 00:26:14.519
 Building a club

00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:15.679
 around a person we don't like.

00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.720
 And all the while,

00:26:18.819 --> 00:26:20.119
 you're making that person pay.

00:26:20.740 --> 00:26:21.159
 You're right?

00:26:21.619 --> 00:26:23.379
 Or you can just fantasize

00:26:23.379 --> 00:26:24.379
 and take pleasure

00:26:24.379 --> 00:26:25.319
 at their misfortune.

00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:27.179
 Or you can maybe

00:26:27.179 --> 00:26:27.919
 just sit around,

00:26:29.199 --> 00:26:30.319
 drinking your wine,

00:26:31.459 --> 00:26:32.319
 fantasizing about

00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:33.299
 all the hurtful things

00:26:33.299 --> 00:26:33.919
 that you're going to say

00:26:33.919 --> 00:26:34.879
 the next time you see them.

00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:36.780
 That zinger that you can't wait

00:26:36.780 --> 00:26:38.160
 to just nail them to the floor.

00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:40.680
 But in all these different ways,

00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:42.380
 we can choose

00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:43.720
 to make that person pay.

00:26:44.580 --> 00:26:45.720
 The other option

00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.600
 is much harder.

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 And that is that we pay.

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 In other words,

00:26:49.380 --> 00:26:50.440
 every time a wave,

00:26:50.760 --> 00:26:51.740
 and have you ever noticed

00:26:51.740 --> 00:26:53.900
 the times that I've been

00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:54.940
 really hurt in my life,

00:26:55.860 --> 00:26:56.400
 and there's actually

00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.240
 even been a relationship

00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:58.220
 over the last few years

00:26:58.220 --> 00:26:59.200
 that has been really difficult,

00:26:59.360 --> 00:26:59.900
 one that's required

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 a lot of forgiveness.

00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.579
 And that hurt

00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:03.899
 doesn't come all at once.

00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:05.179
 It comes in waves.

00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:07.839
 So it hurts almost unbearably,

00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:08.959
 and then it'll subside.

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 And it hurts again,

00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:11.079
 and it's like waves

00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:12.019
 crashing on the beach.

00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:14.279
 And when you choose

00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:15.439
 to pay an emotional debt,

00:27:15.500 --> 00:27:15.919
 when you choose

00:27:15.919 --> 00:27:16.779
 to forgive somebody

00:27:16.779 --> 00:27:17.859
 what they owe you,

00:27:18.459 --> 00:27:19.500
 it means that every time

00:27:19.500 --> 00:27:20.319
 a wave breaks

00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:21.379
 on the shore of your heart,

00:27:21.879 --> 00:27:23.379
 you choose to absorb it.

00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:26.279
 You absorb it.

00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:27.579
 You take it into yourself.

00:27:28.579 --> 00:27:29.619
 You incur the debt.

00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:32.559
 It means that when people

00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:33.599
 who are not involved

00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:34.599
 and shouldn't be involved

00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:36.079
 try to ask you questions

00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:37.259
 and get you to talk about it,

00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:38.960
 you don't.

00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:39.960
 You refuse.

00:27:40.579 --> 00:27:41.579
 It means when your heart

00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:42.039
 or your mind

00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:43.179
 is tempted to fantasize

00:27:43.179 --> 00:27:45.119
 about the nasty things

00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:46.039
 you might say to them

00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.460
 or the, you know,

00:27:48.539 --> 00:27:50.059
 if you are tempted

00:27:50.059 --> 00:27:50.939
 to kind of glory

00:27:50.939 --> 00:27:51.919
 and misfortune

00:27:51.919 --> 00:27:52.859
 that they may be experiencing

00:27:52.859 --> 00:27:53.439
 in their life,

00:27:53.699 --> 00:27:54.939
 you simply flip the switch

00:27:54.939 --> 00:27:56.339
 and you decide not to.

00:27:57.579 --> 00:27:59.419
 It means that when you do

00:27:59.419 --> 00:28:00.879
 and if you do process

00:28:00.879 --> 00:28:03.220
 these kinds of things

00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:03.819
 with friends,

00:28:04.159 --> 00:28:05.559
 you do it in a way

00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:06.859
 that honors the perpetrator.

00:28:09.500 --> 00:28:10.839
 It doesn't feel good

00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:11.960
 to do this, okay?

00:28:12.399 --> 00:28:13.819
 It doesn't feel good.

00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:15.139
 It feels much better

00:28:15.139 --> 00:28:16.379
 to make the other person pay.

00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:18.299
 But there's a problem

00:28:18.299 --> 00:28:19.079
 with doing that.

00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:20.639
 Frederick Buechner

00:28:20.639 --> 00:28:21.279
 says it well.

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:21.740
 He says,

00:28:22.579 --> 00:28:24.359
 of the seven deadly sins,

00:28:24.539 --> 00:28:25.679
 anger is possibly

00:28:25.679 --> 00:28:26.559
 the most fun.

00:28:27.579 --> 00:28:28.839
 Listen to this.

00:28:28.919 --> 00:28:29.159
 He says,

00:28:29.419 --> 00:28:30.419
 to lick your wounds,

00:28:30.879 --> 00:28:31.980
 to smack your lips

00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:33.740
 over grievances long past,

00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:35.839
 to roll over your tongue

00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:36.460
 the prospect

00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:37.939
 of bitter confrontations

00:28:37.939 --> 00:28:38.819
 still to come,

00:28:39.199 --> 00:28:40.539
 to savor to the last

00:28:40.539 --> 00:28:41.599
 toothsome morsel

00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:43.159
 both the pain you were given

00:28:43.159 --> 00:28:44.639
 and the pain you were giving back.

00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:45.759
 In many ways,

00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:47.399
 it is a feast fit for a king.

00:28:48.199 --> 00:28:49.399
 The chief drawback

00:28:49.399 --> 00:28:50.939
 is that what you were wolfing down

00:28:50.939 --> 00:28:51.720
 is yourself.

00:28:53.139 --> 00:28:54.919
 The skeleton at the feast

00:28:54.919 --> 00:28:56.159
 is you.

00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.019
 In other words,

00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:00.920
 it may feel good,

00:29:01.040 --> 00:29:02.580
 but we are devouring ourselves

00:29:02.580 --> 00:29:05.320
 if we hold on to things

00:29:05.320 --> 00:29:06.300
 like bitterness and resentment.

00:29:06.620 --> 00:29:07.800
 Making the perpetrator pay

00:29:07.800 --> 00:29:08.540
 feels good,

00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:10.200
 but it will destroy us eventually.

00:29:10.340 --> 00:29:11.640
 It will consume us.

00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:14.920
 Forgiveness is an extremely hard road,

00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:16.060
 but that is the road

00:29:16.060 --> 00:29:16.960
 that paradoxically

00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:18.220
 will ultimately set you free.

00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:21.180
 So,

00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:23.160
 the reality is

00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.200
 forgiveness requires

00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.440
 that we commit to forgiveness

00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.039
 long before we feel it.

00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:32.400
 Okay?

00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:33.740
 So,

00:29:33.819 --> 00:29:35.039
 if you're thinking about a situation

00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:36.000
 in your life right now

00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:36.519
 and you're wondering

00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.160
 how am I going to possibly do this

00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:39.819
 and you can't imagine

00:29:39.819 --> 00:29:40.579
 feeling that way,

00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:40.720
 well,

00:29:40.740 --> 00:29:41.440
 the answer is

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.259
 forgiveness is a choice you make

00:29:43.259 --> 00:29:44.900
 sometimes

00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:46.440
 years and years and years

00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:47.579
 before you ever feel it.

00:29:48.439 --> 00:29:49.419
 You choose it.

00:29:49.619 --> 00:29:50.379
 You commit to it.

00:29:52.819 --> 00:29:53.819
 Emotional forgiveness,

00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.259
 the emotional reality forgiveness

00:29:55.259 --> 00:29:56.539
 is like a distant land.

00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:58.579
 And sometimes all you can do

00:29:58.579 --> 00:29:59.460
 is buy a ticket

00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:01.179
 and get on the train.

00:30:02.259 --> 00:30:03.339
 And you buy the ticket

00:30:03.339 --> 00:30:04.259
 and you get on the train

00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:05.259
 and you start the journey.

00:30:05.259 --> 00:30:07.359
 And your choice to forgive

00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:08.319
 is buying the ticket.

00:30:08.900 --> 00:30:10.240
 But the reality of forgiveness

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.019
 is a long ways off.

00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:13.940
 And it may be a long train ride

00:30:13.940 --> 00:30:14.279
 for you.

00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:17.279
 But all you can do right now

00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:18.220
 is get on the train

00:30:18.220 --> 00:30:20.099
 and wait and trust

00:30:20.099 --> 00:30:21.240
 that eventually the tracks

00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:22.480
 will lead you there.

00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:26.019
 I want to also say

00:30:26.019 --> 00:30:27.059
 that this is not the same

00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:27.759
 as reconciliation.

00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:29.859
 Because reconciliation

00:30:29.859 --> 00:30:31.660
 is a two-way rebuilding

00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:32.460
 of a relationship

00:30:32.460 --> 00:30:34.220
 that requires both people.

00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:35.580
 But forgiveness

00:30:35.580 --> 00:30:36.880
 is something that you can do

00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:38.040
 in your own heart.

00:30:39.500 --> 00:30:40.640
 There's a time and a place,

00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:40.960
 I think,

00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:41.900
 to confront someone

00:30:41.900 --> 00:30:42.660
 in their sin.

00:30:42.840 --> 00:30:43.820
 We see that in verses

00:30:43.820 --> 00:30:44.900
 15 through 17.

00:30:45.700 --> 00:30:45.880
 You know,

00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:46.800
 anytime there's somebody

00:30:46.800 --> 00:30:47.640
 that's sinned against you,

00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:48.800
 you should confront them.

00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:49.880
 We're told,

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:51.040
 we're commanded to do that.

00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:52.000
 But there are times

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.200
 when that's simply not possible.

00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:54.840
 There are times

00:30:54.840 --> 00:30:55.720
 when you're not in a place

00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:56.180
 to do that.

00:30:56.180 --> 00:30:56.680
 And that's why,

00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.340
 as we see in this chapter,

00:30:58.420 --> 00:30:59.180
 it's good to sometimes

00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:00.039
 rely on the community

00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:00.480
 to help.

00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:02.980
 There's also times

00:31:02.980 --> 00:31:03.640
 when you can't simply

00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:04.220
 because the person

00:31:04.220 --> 00:31:05.259
 is no longer in your life

00:31:05.259 --> 00:31:06.960
 or they've passed away.

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:11.799
 Canceling the debt

00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:13.480
 is something that you can do,

00:31:14.259 --> 00:31:15.259
 that you must do

00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:16.039
 if you want to forgive,

00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:17.799
 and that you can do

00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:18.640
 in your own heart.

00:31:19.700 --> 00:31:20.640
 But it's not easy.

00:31:21.700 --> 00:31:22.880
 And then the last thing we do,

00:31:22.980 --> 00:31:23.799
 so you assess

00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:24.980
 or you name the hurt,

00:31:24.980 --> 00:31:25.920
 the wrong.

00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.039
 You cultivate empathy.

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:29.740
 You have pity.

00:31:30.140 --> 00:31:31.380
 Identify with the perpetrator.

00:31:32.299 --> 00:31:33.180
 Once you've done that,

00:31:33.259 --> 00:31:34.200
 you cancel the debt.

00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:35.860
 You pay it on their behalf.

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:37.539
 And then lastly,

00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:38.640
 you have to let it go.

00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:41.380
 The king lets the man walk out.

00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.380
 You have to let it go.

00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:43.019
 What does that mean?

00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:44.640
 It means that you relinquish

00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:46.059
 your right to ever hold this

00:31:46.059 --> 00:31:47.039
 over that person again.

00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:50.299
 You can't bring it up.

00:31:50.360 --> 00:31:51.160
 You can't bring it back.

00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.400
 You can't ever leverage it.

00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:54.079
 You have to let it go.

00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:56.539
 You don't forget.

00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:57.380
 Forgive and forget

00:31:57.380 --> 00:31:58.279
 is not in the Bible.

00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.059
 That's pop psychology lunacy

00:32:02.059 --> 00:32:03.819
 to tell somebody

00:32:03.819 --> 00:32:05.500
 who's been traumatized

00:32:05.500 --> 00:32:05.920
 or abused

00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:06.799
 that they should forget.

00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:09.099
 That's a big problem

00:32:09.099 --> 00:32:09.940
 in trauma, actually,

00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:11.140
 is the forgetting

00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:11.700
 and the remembering.

00:32:13.700 --> 00:32:14.579
 It doesn't mean

00:32:14.579 --> 00:32:15.299
 forgive and forget,

00:32:15.579 --> 00:32:16.200
 but it means that

00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:16.940
 as you forgive

00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:18.539
 and as you will

00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:19.400
 probably remember,

00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:21.120
 you choose what you do

00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:21.779
 with those memories.

00:32:21.779 --> 00:32:23.359
 and you choose

00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:24.319
 not to use them

00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:24.799
 as leverage

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:25.660
 over that person.

00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:27.859
 You choose to let them go,

00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:29.039
 let them walk free.

00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:31.920
 And you say,

00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:32.740
 well, I hear this

00:32:32.740 --> 00:32:33.859
 and this is just not fair.

00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:35.359
 You're right.

00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:37.319
 It's not fair.

00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:38.440
 Do you know

00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:39.000
 what the definition

00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:40.119
 of grace and mercy is?

00:32:40.779 --> 00:32:42.460
 Mercy is not giving

00:32:42.460 --> 00:32:42.899
 to somebody

00:32:42.899 --> 00:32:43.599
 what they deserve.

00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:46.680
 Grace is giving

00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:47.160
 to somebody

00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:48.099
 what they don't deserve.

00:32:48.099 --> 00:32:50.779
 They're not fair.

00:32:51.159 --> 00:32:51.719
 Grace and mercy

00:32:51.719 --> 00:32:52.579
 are not fair.

00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:56.919
 But forgiveness

00:32:56.919 --> 00:32:57.899
 is necessary

00:32:57.899 --> 00:32:58.539
 for Christians.

00:32:59.059 --> 00:32:59.799
 It's not an option.

00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:01.899
 And it's hard.

00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:03.259
 It means identifying

00:33:03.259 --> 00:33:03.819
 the wrong,

00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:04.819
 having pity and empathy

00:33:04.819 --> 00:33:05.819
 for a wrongdoer,

00:33:06.699 --> 00:33:07.480
 canceling the debt

00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:08.179
 and then letting them

00:33:08.179 --> 00:33:08.759
 walk free.

00:33:09.659 --> 00:33:10.879
 And then Jesus says,

00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:11.519
 this is something

00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:12.399
 that we are called

00:33:12.399 --> 00:33:13.659
 to do over and over

00:33:13.659 --> 00:33:14.500
 and over again.

00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:16.099
 So that leads us

00:33:16.099 --> 00:33:16.980
 to the last question.

00:33:18.099 --> 00:33:18.699
 How on earth

00:33:18.699 --> 00:33:19.419
 is this possible?

00:33:22.719 --> 00:33:23.699
 The real power

00:33:23.699 --> 00:33:24.299
 of this parable

00:33:24.299 --> 00:33:25.039
 is the difference

00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.099
 between the two debts.

00:33:26.199 --> 00:33:26.539
 I told you

00:33:26.539 --> 00:33:27.339
 we'd come back to this.

00:33:28.139 --> 00:33:28.919
 The debt owed

00:33:28.919 --> 00:33:29.939
 by the fellow servant

00:33:29.939 --> 00:33:30.480
 is what?

00:33:31.639 --> 00:33:33.179
 It's 100 denarii,

00:33:33.399 --> 00:33:33.699
 right?

00:33:34.619 --> 00:33:34.980
 Now,

00:33:36.179 --> 00:33:36.719
 a denarii

00:33:36.719 --> 00:33:37.279
 or denarius

00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.459
 was about

00:33:38.459 --> 00:33:39.359
 one day's wages.

00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:41.879
 So I calculated this

00:33:41.879 --> 00:33:42.359
 based on

00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:43.459
 DC minimum wage.

00:33:44.579 --> 00:33:45.699
 And the debt

00:33:45.699 --> 00:33:46.699
 owed by one servant

00:33:46.699 --> 00:33:47.379
 to the other

00:33:47.380 --> 00:33:48.680
 is about $8,000.

00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:50.700
 What's interesting

00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:51.320
 about that is

00:33:51.320 --> 00:33:53.480
 it's not a small sum.

00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:56.060
 And by itself,

00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:57.320
 if somebody owes you

00:33:57.320 --> 00:33:57.960
 $8,000,

00:33:58.260 --> 00:33:59.400
 that's a significant sum.

00:33:59.500 --> 00:33:59.580
 You know,

00:33:59.620 --> 00:34:00.840
 that's worth suing over.

00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:01.360
 That's worth

00:34:01.360 --> 00:34:02.400
 going to the authorities

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:02.960
 about, right?

00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:03.760
 $8,000

00:34:03.760 --> 00:34:05.300
 is a lot of money.

00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:07.660
 It's not nothing.

00:34:08.059 --> 00:34:08.820
 Sometimes when people

00:34:08.820 --> 00:34:09.539
 talk about this parable,

00:34:09.619 --> 00:34:10.680
 they say it's a paltry sum.

00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:11.559
 I think it's important

00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:12.079
 to recognize

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:12.860
 that by itself,

00:34:12.860 --> 00:34:13.420
 this is actually

00:34:13.420 --> 00:34:14.000
 a lot of money.

00:34:16.240 --> 00:34:17.220
 But it's nothing

00:34:17.220 --> 00:34:18.180
 compared to the debt

00:34:18.180 --> 00:34:19.380
 that the servant

00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:20.059
 owes the king.

00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:21.800
 The servant owes

00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:22.240
 the king

00:34:22.240 --> 00:34:23.500
 10,000 talents.

00:34:23.720 --> 00:34:23.920
 Now,

00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:24.519
 we could try

00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:25.980
 to calculate that up,

00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:27.720
 but you would

00:34:27.720 --> 00:34:28.460
 miss the point

00:34:28.460 --> 00:34:30.079
 because a talent

00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:31.280
 was the highest

00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:32.300
 unit of currency

00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:33.900
 that they had.

00:34:34.160 --> 00:34:35.140
 And 10,000

00:34:35.140 --> 00:34:36.000
 was the highest

00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:36.860
 Greek numeral

00:34:36.860 --> 00:34:37.860
 there was.

00:34:37.860 --> 00:34:39.860
 So,

00:34:39.980 --> 00:34:40.460
 it's not about

00:34:40.460 --> 00:34:40.980
 the calculation.

00:34:41.300 --> 00:34:42.460
 This is about extremes.

00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:44.340
 This is like saying

00:34:44.340 --> 00:34:44.940
 that the servant

00:34:44.940 --> 00:34:45.680
 owed the king

00:34:45.680 --> 00:34:47.360
 trillions of dollars.

00:34:49.220 --> 00:34:50.400
 Makes the Greek debt

00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:51.860
 look pretty small

00:34:51.860 --> 00:34:52.500
 by comparison,

00:34:52.620 --> 00:34:52.820
 right?

00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:55.599
 Trillions of dollars.

00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:58.480
 Trillions of dollars.

00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.059
 Everything changes

00:35:01.059 --> 00:35:01.740
 when you compare

00:35:01.740 --> 00:35:02.400
 the amount

00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:03.099
 of the debt

00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:04.099
 owed to the servant

00:35:04.099 --> 00:35:05.380
 and the amount

00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:05.900
 of the debt

00:35:05.900 --> 00:35:07.180
 owed to the king.

00:35:07.860 --> 00:35:08.620
 $8,000

00:35:08.620 --> 00:35:10.019
 seems huge

00:35:10.019 --> 00:35:11.820
 until

00:35:11.820 --> 00:35:13.980
 you hold it up

00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:14.360
 against

00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:15.900
 the greater debt.

00:35:18.140 --> 00:35:18.680
 See,

00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:19.820
 this is the key,

00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:20.300
 I think,

00:35:20.380 --> 00:35:21.400
 the real possible,

00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:22.800
 the reason

00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:23.980
 that Christian forgiveness

00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:25.059
 is actually possible

00:35:25.059 --> 00:35:26.260
 is forgiveness

00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:26.840
 like this

00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:27.760
 becomes possible

00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:28.640
 when we turn

00:35:28.640 --> 00:35:29.180
 our attention

00:35:29.180 --> 00:35:30.599
 away from our debt,

00:35:30.860 --> 00:35:31.740
 the debt owed us,

00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:33.220
 and focus on the debt

00:35:33.220 --> 00:35:34.220
 that we owe God

00:35:34.220 --> 00:35:35.240
 and what God did

00:35:35.240 --> 00:35:36.120
 for us through Jesus

00:35:36.120 --> 00:35:36.860
 because the gospel

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 is this.

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 Here's the gospel.

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 It starts this way.

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 God assesses the debt.

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 What is the debt?

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 Our sin against God

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 is bigger than the sum

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 of all sin

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 ever committed

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 against us.

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 Do you believe that?

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 Our debt

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 that we owe God

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 is bigger than the sum

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 of all of the sin

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 and all of the debt

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 that will ever be owed us.

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 God sends us to us.

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 God sends us to us.

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 God sends us to us.

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 God sends us to us.

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 And yet,

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 God sends his heart

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 out to us.

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 He sends his heart

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 out to us.

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 His heart has a name.

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 It's Jesus.

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 He sends his heart

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 to be with us,

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 to be one of us.

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 And through the death

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 of Jesus,

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 God pays the debt

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 off on our behalf,

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 an infinite debt,

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 cancels our debt,

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 and sets us free

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 to become his children,

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 which is what we were

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 made to be.

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 So here's the point.

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 Christian forgiveness,

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 distinctly speaking,

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 is only possible

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 at the foot of the cross.

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 It's only possible

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 at the foot of the cross.

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 And this is why,

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 by the way,

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 we have regular rhythms

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 in our life together

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 of gathering

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 and confessing our sin

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 and hearing forgiveness

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 and singing

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 and preaching

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 and praying

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 about God's forgiveness

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 because it's all meant

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 to keep our eyes

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 on the cross

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 rather than on everything

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 that's owed us.

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 It's the only way

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 it's possible.

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 So if you're here

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 and you're not a Christian,

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 I personally don't believe

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 that the kind of forgiveness

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 we're talking about here

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 is possible for you.

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 I'm not saying

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 that forgiveness

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 is not possible.

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 But this kind of

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 culture of forgiveness,

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 unlimited,

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 unconditional forgiveness,

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 I don't believe

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 that's possible

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 apart from the cross.

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 You simply lack

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 the resources necessary.

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 In order to forgive

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 like this,

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 we have to experience

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 this forgiveness

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 in our own lives.

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 So that brings us

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 back to our initial opening.

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 The kingdom of God

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 is radically countercultural

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 because it's not

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 a culture of outrage,

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 it's a culture

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 of forgiveness.

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 It's a culture

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 of mercy and grace.

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 And listen,

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 in our culture,

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 things like anger

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 and righteous indignation,

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 they look like powerful weapons.

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 And they make a difference.

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 And it can be so tempting

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 as Christians

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 to pick those weapons up

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 when people are coming after,

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 when we feel

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 that people are coming after us

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 or attacking us

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 or saying hateful things

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 or persecuting us.

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 It can be so easy

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 to pick those weapons up,

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 believing that these

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 are the powerful weapons

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 that will give us a chance.

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 But what we have to realize

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 is those weapons

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 of anger and shame

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 have no place

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 in the kingdom of God.

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 The only weapons we have

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 are grace and mercy.

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 That's it.

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 And yet the good news is this,

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 that grace and mercy

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 are far more powerful.

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 Far more powerful.

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 Let's pray.

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 Let's pray.