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 Father, you know how easy it is for us to get distracted.

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 You know how easy it is for me to get distracted.

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 You know how easy it is for me to hear something and maybe get offended and then want to stop

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 listening.

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 You know how easy it is for me, Father, to cling to my own fantasies and preconceptions

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 and idols rather than face the real world.

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 We ask, Lord, that you would gently but deeply pour out the Holy Spirit upon us this morning,

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 not just those who are here but those joining with us online and those who will be joining

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 with us online downstream, not live but downstream.

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 We ask, Father, that you would gently but deeply pour out the Holy Spirit upon us, that you

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 would form our minds and our wills and our imaginations and our affections and our desires.

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 So that we might seek to know that which is true and beautiful and good.

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 This we ask in the name of Jesus, your Son and our Savior.

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 Amen.

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 Please be seated.

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 This could easily turn into a rant from an old guy about how the world has changed and

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 not in good ways.

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 But I'm going to make my best effort to not do something like that.

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 It's not becoming of a minister to ever do rants about how one time period was better than

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 another.

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 Only God knows that, actually, doesn't he?

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 But it is the case, I think, for many people in our culture today that they've lost a sense

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 of honouring the dead.

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 And I don't mean ancestor worship.

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 I just mean that the practice is around having a loved one or a neighbour die.

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 That increasingly, there's no funerals.

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 Increasingly, there's not really anything at all to mark the death of that particular person.

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 We pay some money for some professionals to dispose of the body.

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 And we just sort of keep on with our very life.

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 And so if you're here and that's sort of your attitude, or if you're watching online and

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 that's sort of what you think, this next bit is going to be very weird to you.

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 But it is a very deeply human thing to desire to honour a loved one who has died.

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 It's, I think, deeply human to want to do this.

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 And the story that I've heard, and so I didn't hear this directly from the person who did it.

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 I heard it one person removed.

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 And it's this.

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 When I, before this, I looked after four little rural churches in Killaloo, Eganville, Clontarf,

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 and Tremor.

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 And three of those small churches had their own graveyards.

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 They're way up the Ottawa Valley, just small little churches with graveyards.

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 And I began my ministry there on June 1st, which is, of course, quite hot.

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 And when I went to the church in Killaloo for the first time, I noticed that there was this shed

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 just off to the side, a very big shed, but a shed off to the side, very big shed with sort of in the trees.

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 And I just assumed that that was where they kept the yard maintenance stuff and ladders and all that type of stuff.

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 I just assumed that was the case.

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 But in January, I discovered that that actually wasn't the case.

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 I discovered that that's where they stored the caskets of people who died in the winter.

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 Because I did a funeral in January, and I went with the hearse, and I went and we put the body in there.

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 And I discovered that it was sort of like not just an Anglican body storage, but sort of for the community.

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 That's where we stored the bodies over the winter.

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 And this is a story that I was told that had happened about 30 years earlier, but it was still very much talked about.

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 And it's all about honoring the dead.

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 There was a woman who had a, I guess we'd call it a phobia.

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 She hated the idea that if she died in the winter, that her body would be in that shed, just with strangers, going down to minus 30.

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 And she hated the idea that that's what would happen to her body.

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 And she talked about it a lot.

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 And as she got older, and as she got closer to death, she asked her sons and her sons-in-law if they would promise her that if she died in the middle of winter, that they would bury her.

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 Now, some of us are city folks, and we don't know what the ground is like in the winter, but it's frozen.

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 You can't just dig a hole.

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 Well, lo and behold, she did.

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 She died in mid-January, and so even as she died and her sons paid their respects, they left that place and began the preparation and planning to see that their mom would be buried in the hole.

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 So they knew where the grave site was, and they had the others to make sure it was marked off, and then they cleared away the snow, and they made a very large fire to cover the area.

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 And they let it burn for a little bit, and then they took the fire away, and they scraped off a little bit of dirt, and then they made another fire, took it away, scraped off a little bit of dirt, another fire, on and on and on.

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 A long, long day in very, very cold temperatures, standing there, taking away a tiny little inch of earth at a time, until they finally got past that which was frozen, was able to dig the rest of the hole relatively quickly, says George.

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 She's just standing there.

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 I mean, now.

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 And then that next day, they buried their mom.

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 They buried their grandmother.

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 They buried their mother-in-law.

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 They buried their aunt.

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 Because it was a group of about six or seven men, and that's what they spent the whole day doing, sometimes going back to get warmed up and do all that other types of stuff.

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 But the women would bring food for them to eat during the day so that they did it.

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 But that's how they honored their mom.

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 And I think that's quite a remarkable story about honoring your mother.

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 The story which we're about to read is a story about honoring the dead.

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 It's a story about honoring the dead that goes sideways in a very remarkable way.

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 So if you have your Bibles, we're going to begin reading at Mark chapter 15, verse 40.

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 Mark chapter 15, verse 40.

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 And Mark, I mean, there's two ways that you could look at Mark.

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 On one hand, you could be like a Christian and believe that it's God's word.

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 But another way to look at it, which would be how scholars or whatever literary critics would look at it, is it's an ancient biography.

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 It's an eyewitness biography written while eyewitnesses were alive.

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 And here's the story that they tell.

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 And just immediately before this, we have the account of Jesus breathing his last.

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 And the centurion, seeing Jesus breathing his last, makes a comment about Jesus.

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 And now here's where the story takes up at verse 40 of chapter 15.

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 There were also women looking on from a distance.

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 Among them were whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the younger, and Joses, and Salome.

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 When Jesus was in Galilee, they followed him and ministered to him.

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 And there were also many other women who came up with him to Jerusalem.

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 And I just sort of pause here.

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 The women had been observing the crucifixion from a distance.

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 They didn't want to be amongst the mockers, and they didn't want to be amongst the gamblers,

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 and they didn't want to be amongst those who, in every culture, there are bloodthirsty.

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 If we had a public crucifixion, there would be many people who would film it,

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 because there's always people who like blood and gore.

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 It's something they enjoy.

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 And they didn't want to be part of that, but they see him die.

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 They see him breathe his last.

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 The story continues.

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 And when evening had come, since it was the day of preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath,

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 Joseph of Arimathea, a respected member of the council, who was also himself looking for the kingdom of God,

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 took courage and went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus.

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 Now, once again, it's the body of Jesus.

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 He's clearly dead.

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 But just as an aside, why is it that it took courage to do this?

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 Well, a moment's reflection will help us.

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 Some of you know this, and some of you don't, but on the 16th of April, 2008,

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 this congregation voted to separate from the Anglican Church of Canada

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 and come under a different jurisdiction, still remaining Anglicans,

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 but not at all connected to the Anglican Church of Canada.

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 And when we did that, I, as a minister, had a lot of fears about it, anxieties.

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 I had a peace about it, but I had anxiety, of course, because it's not unusual for people to say,

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 yeah, we have your back, Pastor, but then when you take the step, they leave the pastor all alone.

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 And in fact, the way my former diocese talked about it was there was just this one kooky guy named George Sinclair

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 who wanted it, but the congregation didn't want it.

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 And they, in fact, sent messages to the congregation assuring them that after the vote,

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 Jesus, we would just fire George and that we'd provide another priest for all the people

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 who wanted to stay with the Diocese of Ottawa.

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 So that was the way that everybody in the diocese expected that it was going to happen.

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 Maybe they'd know that there'd be two or three other weird people who would go with me,

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 but fundamentally nobody would leave such a beautiful building

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 and all of the resources in the Anglican Diocese of Ottawa.

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 But, of course, I became persona non grata.

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 There were well over 100 clergy in the Diocese of Ottawa,

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 so in the week after I left, how many of them called me up to say anything to me?

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 I'll give you the answer.

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 Out of the 100, 120 active clergy and retired clergy, maybe 150, 180, how many called me?

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 One.

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 One minister called me and offered to bring me groceries because he didn't want to see me go hungry.

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 To the rest, I was a leper.

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 I mean, very truly, most of the diocese would have allowed a Wiccan to speak in church, but not allow me.

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 But we all know what it's like if you see somebody that they make a spectacular wrong move,

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 and to associate with them is to be tainted by them.

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 And so it took Joseph great courage.

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 Even though Joseph, Jesus, was now dead, the threat was over, they had won.

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 It takes great courage to want to ask for the body of Jesus.

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 But you know what?

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 Joseph wanted to honor the body of Jesus.

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 Because if he hadn't have done it, what would have happened is what happened to the other thieves,

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 which was the normal Roman custom.

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 The bodies would be taken down and they would be thrown in a dump.

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 And Joseph wanted to honor Jesus.

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 And so he took this big risk.

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 Now, Pilate's a bit confused about this.

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 Look what happens next, verse 44.

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 Pilate was surprised to hear that Jesus should have already died.

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 He would have seen Jesus as a strong guy, and normally people wouldn't have died so quickly,

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 and he'd probably forgotten the Jewish custom and the fact that they would guarantee the death.

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 He'd just forgotten why would he remember Jewish superstitions.

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 He was a great Roman.

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 But he's surprised.

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 Verse 44, Pilate was surprised to hear that Jesus should have already died.

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 And summoning the centurion, sort of like a captain or a major,

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 he asked him whether Jesus was already dead.

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 And when he learned from the centurion that Jesus was dead,

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 he granted the corpse to Joseph.

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 Joseph.

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 Now, once again, notice the text continually says dead, dead, body, corpse.

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 It continually emphasizes the, you know, if I had been doing the scene things for this,

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 this whole scene would have been called Jesus is dead, dead, dead, dead.

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 That's what I would have called the scene if I was doing that with scenes.

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 He's dead, dead, dead, dead.

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 Now, sometimes people, when they're downstream trying to explain why the grave is empty,

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 the tomb is empty, they'll talk about how Jesus maybe didn't die.

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 And they'll say things like, Lazarus wasn't a doctor.

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 Maybe he didn't really die.

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 And that sounds very convincing.

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 But we forget that there's two types of people who are experts in being able to make this determination.

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 One, of course, is doctors.

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 And we do know that, in fact, if a doctor makes a mistake and issues, says somebody's dead when they're alive,

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 there's, I mean, lots of people will make fun of them for a long time,

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 and there may be some questions of their judgment.

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 But there's a whole other category of person who's expert in knowing when somebody's dead,

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 and that's professional killers.

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 I'm not being funny.

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 Professional killers are experts.

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 And the fact of the matter is, if a professional killer makes the mistake,

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 people don't just make fun of them.

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 Something far worse could happen to that guy,

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 because they're paid to make sure the person's dead.

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 And the centurions and the duty officers connected with the bearer,

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 and they would have potentially, this same group of guys would have done dozens,

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 scores of crucifixions,

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 I think they estimated that when it came time a few years later,

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 when the Jewish people started to revolt against Roman rule,

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 they'd crucify a thousand at a time, a thousand at a time, crucified.

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 So Jesus was dead.

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 Verse 46,

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 And Joseph bought a linen shroud,

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 and he took Jesus down,

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 and he wrapped Jesus in the linen shroud,

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 and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock.

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 And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.

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 And Mary Magdalene and Mary, the mother of Joseph,

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 saw where Jesus was laid.

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 Once again, you notice the language, the tomb,

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 the laid, the body,

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 this continuing hammering away at this continuing thing,

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 which, as I said, if I had done the Netflix things,

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 it would have been called,

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 Jesus is dead, dead, dead, dead, dead,

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 like he's dead.

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 Now, here's the thing which is going on in the text.

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 If you could put up my first point, Claire,

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 that would be very helpful.

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 On Friday afternoon,

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 April the 3rd,

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 33 AD,

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 Jesus died.

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 On Friday afternoon,

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 April the 3rd,

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 33 AD,

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 Jesus died.

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 I was talking to somebody the other day

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 who's sort of friendly towards Christianity.

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 I'm not sure where they are with their Christian faith,

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 but they're friendly to them,

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 and we were talking a little bit about it.

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 And he assumed,

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 he was actually completely floored

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 that, first of all,

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 the things like the Gospel of Mark

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 go back to being eyewitness accounts.

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 He had never dawned on him

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 that there are ancient Christian letters

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 that talk about the death and resurrection of Jesus

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 that go way back.

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 The first letter,

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 Christian letter,

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 which we have,

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 which is an undisputed letter

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 from that time period,

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 is from 15 years after this,

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 15 or 16 years after this.

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 And he was floored

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 that they actually know the date that Jesus died.

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 And the scholars debate

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 whether it was the 7th of April,

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 30 AD,

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 or the 3rd of April,

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 33 AD.

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 But there's enough historical references

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 in these ancient biographies

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 connected to Roman emperors

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 and other historical characters

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 that they can sort of figure out

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 that there's only two possible dates

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 while Pontius Pilate was in that area

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 where you had the combination

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 by solar calendar of a Friday,

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 you know,

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 the Thursday,

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 Friday,

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 Saturday,

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 when the Passover

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 and the Sabbath would happen.

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 And I think the evidence is best

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 for it being April 3rd,

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 33 AD.

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 But the point is

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 that what's being recorded here

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 is history.

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 That's why I can say,

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 you could say,

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 on Friday afternoon,

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 April the 3rd,

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 33 AD,

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 Jesus died.

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 Now,

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 the next part of the story,

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 you know,

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 this is part of the thing about,

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 and why you might like

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 want to have a little journal like this

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 to reflect upon the text.

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 The next part is deeply human.

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 At least it's human in my experience.

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 Maybe it's not yours.

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 But,

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 you know,

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 every one of us

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 probably knows people,

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 and hopefully we aren't that person,

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 who sort of says,

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 yeah,

00:17:08.919 --> 00:17:09.039
 yeah,

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 yeah,

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 yeah,

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 you know,

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 the family members

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 or my friends,

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 they can sort of do those arrangements,

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 but,

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 you know,

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 at the end of the day,

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 they don't really get it quite right.

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 They need somebody like me there

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 just to make things better,

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 just to make them really proper.

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 They do their best.

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 They mean well.

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 But really,

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 unless I sort of come and,

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 you know,

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 fix up whatever,

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 it's not quite done well.

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 And that's what's going on here.

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 Look how it goes.

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 It's chapter 16,

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 verse 1.

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 When the Sabbath was passed,

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 Mary Magdalene,

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 Mary the mother of James,

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 and Salome,

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 bought spices

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 so that they might go

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 and anoint Jesus.

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 Now,

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 what's going on here?

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 Actually,

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 if you could put up the point,

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 that would be very helpful.

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 On Saturday evening,

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 April the 4th,

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 33 AD,

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 some women bought spices

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 to cover the stench

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 of Jesus'

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 decomposing body.

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 That's what's being communicated here.

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 On the evening,

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 Saturday evening,

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 April the 4th,

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 33 AD,

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 some women bought spices

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 to cover the stench

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 of Jesus'

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 decomposing body.

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 You see,

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 Jewish people didn't embalm.

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 And so what they did

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 is they would put spices

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 on the body,

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 if they could afford it,

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 to help cover up

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 the stench

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 of decomposition.

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 And so what would have happened,

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 it's not mentioned

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 in Joseph's case,

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 is that Joseph,

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 in another account,

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 knows that he had

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 at least one person

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 helping him

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 and maybe servants.

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 And when they had

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 the linen shroud,

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 they would have put

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 the spices down

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 on the shroud.

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 They would have

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 put some spices

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 on the part of Jesus

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 that was probably,

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 you know,

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 he's probably on his back

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 facing up.

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 And then they wrapped

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 it all up.

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 And the women probably thought,

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 well, you know,

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 those guys,

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 they're guys.

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 They meant well.

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 But, you know,

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 I bet they didn't get

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 enough spices

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 and I bet it's not

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 tucked in right

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 and I bet it's just

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 not done right.

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 You know people like that?

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 That's what they were thinking.

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 And so,

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 so they went

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 and bought extra spices

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 and they weren't

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 buying spices

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 to make cookies

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 to celebrate

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 the resurrection

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 of Jesus.

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 They were buying spices

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 to put on the

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 decomposing body

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 of Jesus

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 so it wouldn't smell.

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 That's what they were doing.

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 That's what they were doing.

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 And they were doing it

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 at night

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 after the Sabbath is over,

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 the stalls

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 and the business is open

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 and they felt comfortable

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 doing that.

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 And those of you

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 who are women,

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 know what this is like,

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 you feel comfortable

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 doing that

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 because there's lots

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 of people around

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 and you feel safe

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 but the idea of walking

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 way out to a tomb

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 in the middle of the night

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 all by yourself,

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 just a couple of women

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 and it's going to be dark

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 and you can't really do it,

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 well that's a very,

00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:46.920
 very different proposition.

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 So they go home,

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 they go to bed

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 and the next morning

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 they wake up

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 and here's what they do.

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 It's verse 2

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 and 3.

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 And very early

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 on the first day

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 of the week

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 when the sun had risen,

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 they went to the tomb

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 and they were,

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 notice again the death,

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 right?

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 And they were saying

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 to one another,

00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:07.220
 who will roll away

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 the stone for us

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 from the entrance

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 of the tomb?

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 Now if you could just

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 put up my next point

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 that would be handy.

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 With the first faint

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 light of dawn,

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 April 5th,

00:20:18.980 --> 00:20:20.099
 33 AD,

00:20:20.899 --> 00:20:22.119
 some women left

00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.220
 for the tomb of Jesus

00:20:23.220 --> 00:20:24.879
 to put additional spices

00:20:24.879 --> 00:20:25.700
 on his body

00:20:25.700 --> 00:20:27.700
 to cover up the stench

00:20:27.700 --> 00:20:29.100
 of decomposition.

00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:32.080
 They went to honour him.

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 They went to honour him.

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 I mean for us

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 it sounds pretty gross

00:20:37.819 --> 00:20:38.660
 that you'd want to

00:20:38.660 --> 00:20:40.680
 unwrap the body

00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:42.980
 and touch the body

00:20:42.980 --> 00:20:43.799
 after it had been dead

00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:44.740
 for that many hours

00:20:44.740 --> 00:20:45.559
 and that sounds

00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:46.620
 very gross to us,

00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:48.180
 some of us more than others.

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 But for others of us

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 you understand

00:20:51.120 --> 00:20:52.019
 that great desire

00:20:52.019 --> 00:20:53.740
 to have that one time

00:20:53.740 --> 00:20:54.279
 to make sure

00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:54.799
 that you can,

00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:56.740
 they didn't have time

00:20:56.740 --> 00:20:57.839
 on Friday

00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:00.099
 to really see him dead

00:21:00.099 --> 00:21:01.240
 and just to be with him,

00:21:01.579 --> 00:21:03.359
 to be with his body.

00:21:03.460 --> 00:21:04.639
 They didn't have that time

00:21:04.639 --> 00:21:07.180
 because there's soldiers around

00:21:07.180 --> 00:21:08.299
 and people screaming

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 and yelling

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 and the hustle and bustle

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 and then it's taken away

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 and all they can do

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 is look at a distance.

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 They don't have that time

00:21:15.099 --> 00:21:17.000
 and they want that time.

00:21:17.659 --> 00:21:18.659
 They love Jesus.

00:21:19.539 --> 00:21:20.559
 They're deeply sad

00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:21.319
 that he's dead.

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 And yes, it's gross.

00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:27.000
 They would have been familiar

00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:29.619
 with those type of grossnesses

00:21:29.619 --> 00:21:30.079
 back then

00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:31.019
 because you can't just,

00:21:31.099 --> 00:21:31.500
 it was harder

00:21:31.500 --> 00:21:32.700
 just to pay a professional

00:21:32.700 --> 00:21:33.579
 to go and do it

00:21:33.579 --> 00:21:34.639
 and you don't have to be bothered

00:21:34.639 --> 00:21:36.059
 and they wanted

00:21:36.059 --> 00:21:37.179
 to unwrap his body.

00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:37.960
 They wanted to put

00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:38.879
 the spices down.

00:21:38.980 --> 00:21:40.500
 They wanted to wrap him back up.

00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:41.220
 They wanted to make sure

00:21:41.220 --> 00:21:41.919
 it was done well

00:21:41.919 --> 00:21:42.839
 and they wanted

00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:43.919
 a quiet time alone

00:21:43.919 --> 00:21:44.659
 with him in the tomb.

00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:47.579
 It's deeply human.

00:21:47.579 --> 00:21:47.619
 It's deeply human.

00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:52.599
 And the text doesn't tell us.

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 It might have even been

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 that some others

00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:54.519
 who couldn't handle

00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:55.419
 the gross aspect

00:21:55.419 --> 00:21:56.279
 were planning to come

00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:57.480
 and do their respects later

00:21:57.480 --> 00:21:57.839
 as well,

00:21:57.939 --> 00:21:58.980
 privately, quietly,

00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:01.439
 just to see him.

00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:05.460
 See, all of these

00:22:05.460 --> 00:22:06.200
 are stories

00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.139
 of people who love Jesus

00:22:08.139 --> 00:22:09.439
 who wanted to honor him

00:22:09.439 --> 00:22:10.159
 in his death.

00:22:11.299 --> 00:22:12.099
 And then

00:22:12.099 --> 00:22:14.379
 the story takes

00:22:14.379 --> 00:22:15.139
 a weird turn.

00:22:17.419 --> 00:22:18.259
 And by now,

00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:19.500
 I hope you've gathered

00:22:19.500 --> 00:22:20.819
 that what they're making

00:22:20.819 --> 00:22:21.500
 is a claim

00:22:21.500 --> 00:22:22.559
 that it goes

00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:24.660
 really, really, really weird

00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:25.599
 and completely

00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:26.220
 and utterly

00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:27.940
 against what they had expected

00:22:27.940 --> 00:22:30.400
 and what they were preparing for

00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:32.440
 and how they were preparing

00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:33.240
 to live for the rest

00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:33.920
 of their lives.

00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:35.319
 Look what happens.

00:22:35.460 --> 00:22:36.319
 Look at verses

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 four to seven.

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 And looking up,

00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:41.460
 they must have been coming

00:22:41.460 --> 00:22:42.140
 from the bottom

00:22:42.140 --> 00:22:44.079
 and the cave

00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:45.059
 slash tomb

00:22:45.059 --> 00:22:46.180
 has been cut in the side.

00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:46.900
 And looking up,

00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:48.880
 they saw that the stone

00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:50.340
 had been rolled back

00:22:50.340 --> 00:22:51.380
 and it was very large.

00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:53.600
 And entering the tomb,

00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:56.140
 they saw a young man

00:22:56.140 --> 00:22:57.540
 sitting on the right side

00:22:57.540 --> 00:22:58.780
 dressed in a white robe

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 and they were alarmed.

00:23:00.360 --> 00:23:01.460
 And just sort of pause here

00:23:01.460 --> 00:23:02.440
 before I read any further.

00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.300
 It's clear from the original language

00:23:05.300 --> 00:23:08.340
 and it's clear from the other accounts

00:23:08.340 --> 00:23:09.380
 that this is a way

00:23:09.380 --> 00:23:10.480
 of describing an angel.

00:23:10.840 --> 00:23:12.320
 They're seeing an angel.

00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:15.940
 Verse six,

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 And he said to them,

00:23:18.100 --> 00:23:19.200
 Do not be alarmed.

00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:21.420
 You seek Jesus of Nazareth

00:23:21.420 --> 00:23:22.660
 who was crucified.

00:23:23.539 --> 00:23:24.480
 He is risen.

00:23:24.980 --> 00:23:25.779
 He is not here.

00:23:26.840 --> 00:23:28.440
 See the place

00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:29.160
 where they laid him.

00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:30.220
 But go,

00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:31.620
 tell his disciples

00:23:31.620 --> 00:23:32.220
 and Peter

00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:33.539
 that he is going before you

00:23:33.539 --> 00:23:34.220
 to Galilee.

00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.740
 There you will see him

00:23:36.740 --> 00:23:40.100
 just as he told you.

00:23:40.099 --> 00:23:45.259
 If you could put up the point.

00:23:47.819 --> 00:23:49.619
 On the morning of April 5th,

00:23:49.639 --> 00:23:50.480
 33 AD,

00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:52.599
 some women found

00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:53.859
 the stone rolled away

00:23:53.859 --> 00:23:55.439
 from Jesus' tomb

00:23:55.439 --> 00:23:57.240
 and his body was gone.

00:23:58.639 --> 00:23:59.719
 Now up until now,

00:24:00.459 --> 00:24:02.039
 you could go to the religion faculty

00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:02.759
 at Ottawa U.

00:24:02.899 --> 00:24:04.299
 You could go to the ultra-liberal

00:24:04.299 --> 00:24:05.199
 religion faculty

00:24:05.199 --> 00:24:06.419
 at St. Paul University.

00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:07.879
 You could go to the religion faculty

00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:08.560
 at Carleton.

00:24:08.800 --> 00:24:10.960
 You could go to just about

00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:12.000
 any school.

00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:13.620
 And they would not disagree

00:24:13.620 --> 00:24:14.600
 with a single thing

00:24:14.600 --> 00:24:15.300
 of my points

00:24:15.300 --> 00:24:16.440
 that I've set up until now.

00:24:16.520 --> 00:24:16.780
 They might,

00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:17.040
 you know,

00:24:17.100 --> 00:24:18.040
 my explanation,

00:24:18.380 --> 00:24:19.600
 they might have different nuances.

00:24:19.600 --> 00:24:20.180
 That's fine.

00:24:20.620 --> 00:24:21.920
 But the four points

00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:22.860
 that I've put up right now,

00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:23.580
 that would be just,

00:24:23.660 --> 00:24:24.920
 that's part of the bedrock thing

00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:26.060
 that nobody would disagree with.

00:24:26.080 --> 00:24:26.860
 Some of them might disagree

00:24:26.860 --> 00:24:28.060
 with 33 and 30,

00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:28.320
 but,

00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:29.500
 you know,

00:24:29.540 --> 00:24:30.200
 at the end of the day,

00:24:30.600 --> 00:24:31.300
 all of this stuff,

00:24:31.360 --> 00:24:32.540
 I've completely and utterly,

00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:34.600
 they all agree.

00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.539
 But in that text,

00:24:37.659 --> 00:24:38.519
 in particular,

00:24:39.419 --> 00:24:42.779
 in verse 5 and 6,

00:24:43.139 --> 00:24:44.559
 this is where they lose it.

00:24:48.139 --> 00:24:49.439
 Okay, George,

00:24:50.139 --> 00:24:52.219
 you're saying an angel

00:24:52.219 --> 00:24:53.179
 talked to the women.

00:24:55.259 --> 00:24:56.039
 Like, seriously?

00:24:56.579 --> 00:24:59.119
 An angel talked to the women?

00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:01.239
 George,

00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:03.319
 and you say it's history?

00:25:04.219 --> 00:25:05.739
 You say it's biography?

00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:09.359
 And you have an angel talking?

00:25:12.859 --> 00:25:13.339
 George,

00:25:13.419 --> 00:25:14.459
 that's completely

00:25:14.459 --> 00:25:15.599
 and utterly ridiculous.

00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:20.819
 Now,

00:25:20.859 --> 00:25:21.419
 they might say it

00:25:21.419 --> 00:25:22.199
 with more scorn

00:25:22.199 --> 00:25:22.979
 and not affection.

00:25:24.099 --> 00:25:25.839
 And we might get deeply red

00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:26.839
 in the face

00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:27.799
 and uncomfortable

00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:29.240
 and not know what to say.

00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:31.740
 And I'm not going to give you

00:25:31.740 --> 00:25:32.659
 a whole account

00:25:32.659 --> 00:25:34.460
 of what they,

00:25:35.379 --> 00:25:36.339
 of what to say.

00:25:38.659 --> 00:25:39.259
 But I am,

00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:39.799
 if you could put up

00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:40.579
 the fifth point,

00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:42.500
 I am going to maintain

00:25:42.500 --> 00:25:44.259
 that this sentence

00:25:44.259 --> 00:25:46.240
 makes complete sense

00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.859
 as an historical account

00:25:49.859 --> 00:25:51.799
 of what actually happened.

00:25:54.299 --> 00:25:55.119
 Amongst other things,

00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:56.319
 because I'm not going into it,

00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.240
 the person who is,

00:25:58.359 --> 00:25:58.599
 well, no,

00:25:58.659 --> 00:25:59.700
 I'll make the point first.

00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:01.319
 On the morning of April 5th,

00:26:01.399 --> 00:26:02.259
 33 AD,

00:26:03.220 --> 00:26:04.740
 an angel told the women

00:26:04.740 --> 00:26:06.819
 that Jesus had been resurrected

00:26:06.819 --> 00:26:08.539
 from death,

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:09.579
 from the dead.

00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:11.919
 Now,

00:26:12.980 --> 00:26:14.240
 angels,

00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:15.659
 you know,

00:26:15.980 --> 00:26:17.619
 that's completely impossible.

00:26:17.980 --> 00:26:20.179
 It's completely implausible.

00:26:20.179 --> 00:26:20.579
 Well,

00:26:20.740 --> 00:26:21.519
 amongst other things,

00:26:21.579 --> 00:26:22.559
 that only makes sense,

00:26:22.679 --> 00:26:22.919
 of course,

00:26:22.980 --> 00:26:24.559
 if angels don't actually exist.

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:25.559
 If they do exist,

00:26:25.679 --> 00:26:27.659
 then there's nothing wrong

00:26:27.659 --> 00:26:28.700
 with this.

00:26:30.019 --> 00:26:30.279
 Now,

00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:32.259
 here's what,

00:26:32.339 --> 00:26:34.000
 here's what's going on,

00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:34.440
 you know,

00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:34.960
 and that's why,

00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:35.379
 by the way,

00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:36.339
 this is one of the reasons

00:26:36.339 --> 00:26:37.399
 I've made all of my points

00:26:37.399 --> 00:26:38.720
 by giving the actual date

00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:39.480
 of the resurrection

00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:40.579
 and the claim

00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:41.339
 that's being made.

00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:43.159
 That you can't read

00:26:43.159 --> 00:26:44.500
 the Gospels

00:26:44.500 --> 00:26:45.559
 and not realize,

00:26:46.099 --> 00:26:46.279
 you know,

00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:47.200
 if you want to think,

00:26:47.539 --> 00:26:48.339
 if you think

00:26:48.339 --> 00:26:49.399
 that they may be

00:26:49.399 --> 00:26:50.700
 trying to just be symbolic,

00:26:50.700 --> 00:26:52.660
 well,

00:26:52.700 --> 00:26:53.500
 the Bible has

00:26:53.500 --> 00:26:54.580
 an account

00:26:54.580 --> 00:26:55.880
 of Christian truth

00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:56.720
 which is symbolic.

00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:57.140
 It's called

00:26:57.140 --> 00:26:58.039
 the Book of Revelation

00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.059
 and nobody can read

00:27:00.059 --> 00:27:00.980
 the Book of Revelation

00:27:00.980 --> 00:27:02.680
 and read one of the Gospels

00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:03.740
 and think that

00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:04.779
 they're the same genres.

00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:05.080
 Like,

00:27:05.340 --> 00:27:06.319
 early Christians,

00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:06.600
 just,

00:27:06.900 --> 00:27:07.920
 they weren't dummies.

00:27:08.420 --> 00:27:08.980
 They're writing

00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:10.460
 an ancient biography

00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:11.259
 and they're making

00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:12.039
 these claims.

00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:13.220
 They're claiming

00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:14.299
 that that's what happened.

00:27:15.380 --> 00:27:15.680
 Now,

00:27:15.980 --> 00:27:17.259
 here's the issue

00:27:17.259 --> 00:27:17.680
 with it

00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:18.799
 and this is why

00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:19.440
 on one level,

00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:20.680
 and I think increasingly

00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:21.400
 in our culture

00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:21.940
 there's maybe

00:27:21.940 --> 00:27:22.840
 going to begin

00:27:22.840 --> 00:27:24.340
 a new openness to it

00:27:24.340 --> 00:27:26.000
 and I want to park here

00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:26.960
 just for a couple of minutes.

00:27:27.059 --> 00:27:27.660
 I see the time.

00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:28.460
 I want to park here.

00:27:29.019 --> 00:27:29.320
 I have,

00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:31.160
 I know somebody who,

00:27:31.380 --> 00:27:32.779
 I know several people now

00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.120
 who might have been

00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:35.620
 a bit far

00:27:35.620 --> 00:27:36.580
 from the Christian faith

00:27:36.580 --> 00:27:37.180
 for a while

00:27:37.180 --> 00:27:39.620
 and I don't know

00:27:39.620 --> 00:27:40.279
 if they're definitely,

00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:41.600
 at least a couple of them

00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:42.200
 that I'm thinking of,

00:27:42.259 --> 00:27:42.660
 they're definitely

00:27:42.660 --> 00:27:43.480
 not Christians

00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:45.440
 but they have a respect

00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:46.160
 for Christians

00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.480
 that they didn't have before

00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:48.940
 and that's because

00:27:48.940 --> 00:27:50.900
 on a very fundamental level

00:27:50.900 --> 00:27:52.120
 they're starting to realize

00:27:52.120 --> 00:27:52.880
 and recognize

00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:53.720
 something which has

00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:54.759
 always been true

00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.080
 that Christian truth,

00:27:57.220 --> 00:27:58.440
 the Christian faith

00:27:58.440 --> 00:27:59.920
 has been a bastion,

00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.779
 has been a bastion

00:28:02.779 --> 00:28:06.440
 of truth

00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.200
 and of evidence

00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:09.580
 and of reason

00:28:09.580 --> 00:28:10.960
 and of what is real.

00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:15.740
 like I talk to people

00:28:15.740 --> 00:28:16.480
 and once they start

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:17.059
 to realize

00:28:17.059 --> 00:28:18.759
 what I think about things

00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:20.759
 they come to realize

00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:21.680
 that there's people

00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:21.940
 in our,

00:28:22.180 --> 00:28:23.319
 like there's actually

00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:24.100
 people in our

00:28:24.100 --> 00:28:25.259
 educational institution

00:28:25.259 --> 00:28:25.819
 that think that

00:28:25.819 --> 00:28:26.539
 two plus two

00:28:26.539 --> 00:28:27.559
 equals four

00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:28.319
 isn't a statement

00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:29.440
 of something which is true

00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.180
 but is a patriarchal construct.

00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:33.640
 That there are people

00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:34.279
 in our culture

00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:35.160
 who think that

00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:36.360
 you should have

00:28:36.360 --> 00:28:38.100
 different ways

00:28:38.100 --> 00:28:38.579
 of knowing

00:28:38.579 --> 00:28:40.100
 taught alongside science

00:28:40.099 --> 00:28:40.899
 because they're both

00:28:40.899 --> 00:28:41.740
 equally valid

00:28:41.740 --> 00:28:42.559
 that something

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:43.059
 that you get

00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:43.740
 from a dream

00:28:43.740 --> 00:28:44.519
 or a legend

00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:45.119
 is going to be

00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:46.000
 equally as good

00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:46.939
 at treating people

00:28:46.939 --> 00:28:48.459
 or handling things

00:28:48.459 --> 00:28:50.399
 as evidence-based,

00:28:50.619 --> 00:28:52.439
 scientific-based medicine

00:28:52.439 --> 00:28:53.119
 and that's just

00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:54.139
 completely ridiculous.

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:54.859
 And the next bit,

00:28:55.379 --> 00:28:56.959
 this isn't a political rant

00:28:56.959 --> 00:28:58.319
 and I know normally

00:28:58.319 --> 00:28:59.279
 I try to make

00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:00.079
 a whole pile of covering

00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:00.579
 for it

00:29:00.579 --> 00:29:02.579
 and I don't want

00:29:02.579 --> 00:29:03.079
 to offend

00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.219
 and I'm going to offend

00:29:04.220 --> 00:29:07.160
 and I'll take you

00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:07.799
 out for coffee

00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:08.900
 and I'll give you

00:29:08.900 --> 00:29:09.779
 lots of nuances

00:29:09.779 --> 00:29:10.440
 around it

00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:11.860
 but I know people

00:29:11.860 --> 00:29:12.799
 who sit through

00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:13.700
 and these are people

00:29:13.700 --> 00:29:14.680
 who are scientists

00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:16.519
 with graduate level

00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:17.700
 degrees in biology

00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:19.200
 and they sit through

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:19.799
 a workshop

00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:20.759
 where they say

00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:21.860
 that you can't refer

00:29:21.860 --> 00:29:23.680
 to women breastfeeding,

00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:24.799
 you have to refer

00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:29.460
 what's the word

00:29:29.460 --> 00:29:31.120
 to milking agents

00:29:31.120 --> 00:29:31.900
 like, you know,

00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.240
 chest feeding?

00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:36.240
 And they sit

00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:36.940
 through things

00:29:36.940 --> 00:29:38.240
 where, you know,

00:29:38.339 --> 00:29:38.819
 you might have seen

00:29:38.819 --> 00:29:39.720
 an viral clip

00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:40.480
 that you couldn't tell

00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.220
 in an autopsy

00:29:41.220 --> 00:29:42.740
 whether the corpse

00:29:42.740 --> 00:29:43.980
 was a male or female

00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:44.980
 and they go,

00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:45.880
 like, what?

00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:49.539
 And I know several people

00:29:49.539 --> 00:29:50.240
 who, you know,

00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:51.319
 ten years earlier

00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.559
 or five years earlier

00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.120
 they would have been

00:29:53.120 --> 00:29:54.000
 very dismissive

00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:54.559
 of Christians

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:55.460
 but all of a sudden

00:29:55.460 --> 00:29:56.759
 they just look at Christians

00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:58.279
 and they realize

00:29:58.279 --> 00:29:59.160
 that Christians

00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.180
 have had this long tradition

00:30:02.180 --> 00:30:03.839
 deeply formed

00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:04.980
 that we're concerned

00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:05.959
 with evidence,

00:30:06.379 --> 00:30:07.319
 that we're concerned

00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:08.119
 with the truth,

00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:09.019
 that we're concerned

00:30:09.019 --> 00:30:09.839
 with reason

00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:14.039
 and they see our culture

00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:14.919
 getting unmoored

00:30:14.919 --> 00:30:15.699
 and all of a sudden

00:30:15.699 --> 00:30:16.279
 they realize

00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:16.839
 that if they're going

00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:17.939
 to go and have some people

00:30:17.939 --> 00:30:18.459
 they can at least

00:30:18.459 --> 00:30:19.679
 have conversations with

00:30:19.679 --> 00:30:20.379
 and maybe have,

00:30:20.899 --> 00:30:21.500
 start to realize

00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:22.159
 that there's something

00:30:22.159 --> 00:30:22.799
 grounding,

00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:24.539
 just actually what's real,

00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:26.259
 that that's where you go,

00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:27.299
 that's where Christians

00:30:27.299 --> 00:30:27.839
 inhabit.

00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:31.480
 and for some of them

00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:32.740
 it's a very shocking

00:30:32.740 --> 00:30:33.679
 realization

00:30:33.679 --> 00:30:35.159
 that that's sort of

00:30:35.159 --> 00:30:36.079
 that they're on the same

00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:37.359
 side of the playing field

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.579
 with guys like me

00:30:39.579 --> 00:30:41.240
 and you folks.

00:30:45.659 --> 00:30:46.439
 You see,

00:30:46.659 --> 00:30:46.819
 I mean,

00:30:46.879 --> 00:30:48.039
 you just look at this story.

00:30:49.939 --> 00:30:50.779
 Christians say

00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:51.679
 that they didn't roll

00:30:51.679 --> 00:30:52.519
 the stone away

00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.119
 so Jesus could get out.

00:30:54.439 --> 00:30:55.879
 They rolled the stone away

00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.380
 so that people could go in

00:30:57.380 --> 00:30:58.000
 and verify

00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:59.620
 that the body was gone.

00:31:00.560 --> 00:31:01.200
 Kathy Keller

00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:02.420
 has a wonderful line.

00:31:02.540 --> 00:31:02.960
 She says,

00:31:03.080 --> 00:31:04.080
 it's always been part

00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:05.060
 of the Christian tradition

00:31:05.060 --> 00:31:06.600
 to trust and verify.

00:31:08.060 --> 00:31:10.020
 Trust and verify.

00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:11.920
 That that's part

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:13.100
 of the Christian tradition.

00:31:13.840 --> 00:31:14.860
 Even the angel says,

00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:15.060
 look,

00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:15.860
 the body's gone.

00:31:17.780 --> 00:31:18.800
 Christianity would be

00:31:18.800 --> 00:31:19.420
 a radically,

00:31:19.620 --> 00:31:20.060
 radically,

00:31:20.220 --> 00:31:21.480
 radically different religion.

00:31:21.620 --> 00:31:21.960
 In fact,

00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:22.480
 it would be like

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:23.020
 the religions

00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:24.080
 of most of the world

00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:25.480
 if we were to say,

00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:25.620
 yeah,

00:31:25.619 --> 00:31:26.739
 Jesus rose from the dead.

00:31:26.859 --> 00:31:26.959
 Oh,

00:31:27.019 --> 00:31:27.619
 did he rise from the dead?

00:31:27.639 --> 00:31:28.099
 How do you know?

00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:28.699
 Well,

00:31:28.819 --> 00:31:29.079
 you know,

00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:30.379
 we know that the body's gone.

00:31:30.859 --> 00:31:31.639
 Can I go?

00:31:31.679 --> 00:31:31.799
 No,

00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:31.939
 no,

00:31:32.179 --> 00:31:32.759
 you know,

00:31:32.779 --> 00:31:33.479
 it happened right here

00:31:33.479 --> 00:31:34.019
 in this tomb.

00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:34.659
 Well,

00:31:34.699 --> 00:31:35.259
 can we go and look?

00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:35.439
 No,

00:31:35.479 --> 00:31:35.579
 no,

00:31:35.579 --> 00:31:35.699
 no,

00:31:35.699 --> 00:31:35.839
 no,

00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:35.959
 no,

00:31:35.959 --> 00:31:36.259
 no,

00:31:36.259 --> 00:31:36.559
 no,

00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:36.779
 no,

00:31:36.779 --> 00:31:36.959
 no,

00:31:36.959 --> 00:31:37.079
 no,

00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:37.199
 no,

00:31:37.199 --> 00:31:37.299
 no,

00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:37.399
 no,

00:31:37.399 --> 00:31:37.479
 no,

00:31:37.479 --> 00:31:37.500
 no,

00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:37.519
 no,

00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:37.539
 no,

00:31:37.539 --> 00:31:37.559
 no,

00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:37.579
 no,

00:31:37.579 --> 00:31:37.679
 no,

00:31:37.679 --> 00:31:37.719
 no,

00:31:37.719 --> 00:31:37.799
 no,

00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:38.019
 no,

00:31:38.019 --> 00:31:38.679
 no,

00:31:38.679 --> 00:31:39.319
 no,

00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:39.500
 no,

00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:39.599
 no,

00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:39.919
 no,

00:31:39.919 --> 00:31:40.059
 no,

00:31:40.059 --> 00:31:40.839
 no,

00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:41.439
 no,

00:31:41.439 --> 00:31:41.679
 no,

00:31:41.679 --> 00:31:41.959
 no,

00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:57.079
 you know,

00:31:57.179 --> 00:31:58.639
 maybe it's ancient myths

00:31:58.639 --> 00:31:59.779
 and ancient stories

00:31:59.779 --> 00:32:00.659
 and I'm not,

00:32:00.739 --> 00:32:02.859
 I'm not putting them down at all

00:32:02.859 --> 00:32:04.879
 and ancient practices,

00:32:05.059 --> 00:32:05.799
 you have stories,

00:32:05.959 --> 00:32:06.559
 you have myths,

00:32:06.699 --> 00:32:07.500
 you have practices,

00:32:07.699 --> 00:32:08.419
 you have legends,

00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:09.519
 you have,

00:32:09.579 --> 00:32:10.500
 you know,

00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:11.039
 poetry,

00:32:11.399 --> 00:32:13.299
 you have all of these types of things

00:32:13.299 --> 00:32:15.719
 and the person who follows them

00:32:15.719 --> 00:32:17.059
 has to follow those things.

00:32:17.159 --> 00:32:18.159
 You follow the myths

00:32:18.159 --> 00:32:20.199
 and you meditate upon the myths

00:32:20.199 --> 00:32:21.419
 and you make them your own

00:32:21.419 --> 00:32:22.739
 and you do the practices

00:32:22.739 --> 00:32:24.759
 and that makes you acceptable to God.

00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:25.720
 But at the very,

00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.920
 very heart of the Christian faith

00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:27.700
 and this is something

00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:29.319
 that Protestant and Catholics

00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:30.460
 and Eastern Orthodox

00:32:30.460 --> 00:32:31.460
 we all agree on.

00:32:31.500 --> 00:32:32.799
 At the very heart of the Christian faith

00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:33.039
 is,

00:32:33.259 --> 00:32:33.480
 I mean,

00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:34.900
 it's obviously important to us

00:32:34.900 --> 00:32:35.900
 what Jesus taught

00:32:35.900 --> 00:32:37.420
 and it's important to us

00:32:37.420 --> 00:32:39.700
 that we do what Jesus told us to do

00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:40.759
 but at the very heart of it

00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:42.660
 is that God in his son

00:32:42.660 --> 00:32:44.339
 does something in history,

00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:46.960
 that he accomplishes something.

00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.759
 That's the heart of the Christian faith.

00:32:50.619 --> 00:32:54.059
 That on April 5th, 33 AD,

00:32:54.059 --> 00:32:55.539
 the tomb was empty

00:32:55.539 --> 00:32:56.819
 because Jesus rose.

00:32:56.919 --> 00:32:58.579
 That's the heart of the Christian faith.

00:32:59.539 --> 00:33:01.039
 It's the heart of the Christian faith

00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.679
 that I'm not made right with God

00:33:02.679 --> 00:33:03.859
 because I'm really good

00:33:03.859 --> 00:33:04.919
 at keeping the teachings.

00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:06.179
 You're not made right with God

00:33:06.179 --> 00:33:07.940
 because you suck at keeping the teachings

00:33:07.940 --> 00:33:08.700
 and you suck

00:33:08.700 --> 00:33:10.259
 and I'm way better at it

00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:11.899
 and so I'm acceptable to God.

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.319
 No,

00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.519
 that's not what the Christian faith is.

00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:15.960
 The Christian faith is that

00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.200
 I'm an unworthy person

00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.660
 and Jesus did something for me

00:33:20.660 --> 00:33:22.840
 that I cannot do for myself

00:33:22.840 --> 00:33:25.559
 and I receive it by grace

00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.799
 and so right in the very, very center

00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:28.580
 of Christianity

00:33:28.580 --> 00:33:30.160
 is a concern

00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.720
 not just with stories and myths

00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.180
 and allegories and symbolism

00:33:34.180 --> 00:33:35.240
 and metaphors

00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.259
 but of something actually happening

00:33:37.259 --> 00:33:38.360
 in the real world

00:33:38.360 --> 00:33:41.200
 which is why Christianity has miracles

00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.380
 and the others don't.

00:33:42.380 --> 00:33:43.760
 It's all about what happens

00:33:43.760 --> 00:33:44.560
 in the real world

00:33:44.560 --> 00:33:46.280
 and it's a very different way of living

00:33:46.280 --> 00:33:49.180
 but at the same time

00:33:49.180 --> 00:33:50.080
 and this is what makes

00:33:50.080 --> 00:33:52.140
 Christianity so weird

00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:53.380
 to people on the outside.

00:33:55.380 --> 00:33:56.660
 I had a fellow,

00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:58.080
 maybe he's watching this

00:33:58.080 --> 00:33:59.840
 today or downstream

00:33:59.840 --> 00:34:02.980
 and he's an engineer.

00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.300
 He was from a communist country,

00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:06.400
 raised an atheist.

00:34:07.300 --> 00:34:10.500
 He fled the Iron Curtain,

00:34:10.640 --> 00:34:11.420
 came to the West

00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:15.280
 and I've had quite a few conversations

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:15.760
 with him

00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.019
 and I got him all wrong

00:34:17.019 --> 00:34:18.300
 for the first three or four months.

00:34:18.380 --> 00:34:19.680
 I just assumed he was an atheist

00:34:19.680 --> 00:34:21.840
 and it finally dawned on me

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.599
 that by his own thinking

00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.260
 he had rejected atheism

00:34:25.260 --> 00:34:26.960
 and come to believe

00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.019
 that there were beings like angels.

00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:31.860
 And you see,

00:34:32.019 --> 00:34:32.579
 the other thing

00:34:32.579 --> 00:34:33.420
 which is just so weird

00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:34.139
 about Christianity

00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:35.440
 is we have this concern

00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:36.200
 for truth,

00:34:36.340 --> 00:34:36.940
 for evidence,

00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:37.800
 for reason,

00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:39.639
 for thinking,

00:34:40.220 --> 00:34:41.220
 for being careful,

00:34:41.420 --> 00:34:42.119
 for being clear

00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:43.099
 but at the other hand,

00:34:44.139 --> 00:34:45.420
 we believe there's a soul,

00:34:45.579 --> 00:34:46.740
 we believe there's angels,

00:34:46.980 --> 00:34:48.159
 we believe there's meaning,

00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:49.559
 we believe there's beauty,

00:34:49.720 --> 00:34:50.760
 we believe there's goodness,

00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.460
 we believe there's right and wrong,

00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:53.639
 we believe that there's

00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:55.740
 these transcendent truths,

00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:56.760
 we believe that

00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.159
 because the creator God,

00:34:59.240 --> 00:34:59.840
 the triune God

00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:00.920
 has created all things,

00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.079
 that different things in creation

00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:05.480
 just aren't mere things

00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:06.320
 or mere stuff

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.720
 or mere collections of atoms

00:35:07.720 --> 00:35:08.900
 but that they communicate

00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:09.740
 in some ways,

00:35:09.860 --> 00:35:11.820
 that they point to things,

00:35:11.900 --> 00:35:13.340
 that they're metaphors of things,

00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.460
 that the body has a type

00:35:15.460 --> 00:35:16.900
 of a significance to it

00:35:16.900 --> 00:35:18.139
 and you can't discover that

00:35:18.139 --> 00:35:19.139
 from science,

00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:21.079
 from cutting it up

00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:22.099
 and dissecting it,

00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:23.460
 that there's this whole world

00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:24.159
 of meaning,

00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:24.880
 of beauty,

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.240
 of goodness,

00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.539
 of dance,

00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:29.880
 of poetry,

00:35:30.940 --> 00:35:32.180
 of laughter

00:35:32.180 --> 00:35:33.320
 and Christianity

00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.340
 is not just the bastion of truth,

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.000
 it's also the bastion of that

00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.700
 which believes that there is more

00:35:38.700 --> 00:35:41.160
 and the two are held together

00:35:41.160 --> 00:35:42.940
 with no contradiction whatsoever,

00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.440
 hence if that statement is up there,

00:35:45.900 --> 00:35:46.960
 why that statement makes

00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.260
 all the sense in the world

00:35:48.260 --> 00:35:49.019
 that on the morning

00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:50.960
 that April 5th, 33 AD,

00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:53.119
 an angel told the woman

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:54.579
 that Jesus had been resurrected

00:35:54.579 --> 00:35:55.440
 from the dead

00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.179
 and no Christian

00:35:57.179 --> 00:35:58.139
 has to blush at that

00:35:58.139 --> 00:35:58.480
 and we say,

00:35:58.559 --> 00:35:59.880
 yeah, that's exactly what it is.

00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:03.380
 Don't you believe in minds

00:36:03.380 --> 00:36:04.659
 and souls

00:36:04.659 --> 00:36:05.420
 and beauty

00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:06.139
 and goodness

00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:06.699
 and love

00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:07.359
 and truth

00:36:07.359 --> 00:36:08.099
 and justice?

00:36:09.059 --> 00:36:09.839
 Don't you believe

00:36:09.839 --> 00:36:10.940
 there's something more

00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:12.880
 than what you can just consume

00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:13.960
 or push around?

00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:16.460
 Don't you believe

00:36:16.460 --> 00:36:17.500
 there's something more?

00:36:18.179 --> 00:36:19.039
 And don't you believe

00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:19.539
 that in a,

00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:20.759
 don't you wish

00:36:20.759 --> 00:36:21.500
 there was a world

00:36:21.500 --> 00:36:22.199
 where there's both

00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:22.980
 something more

00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:23.760
 and something that,

00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:25.480
 and you can think about it

00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:26.599
 and there's no contradiction?

00:36:27.619 --> 00:36:29.099
 There's a coherence

00:36:29.099 --> 00:36:30.539
 and doesn't that sound

00:36:30.539 --> 00:36:31.619
 beautiful and attractive?

00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:33.440
 And if you think

00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:34.679
 that's beautiful and attractive

00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:36.400
 then what you are being attracted to

00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:37.719
 is only Christianity

00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:38.679
 and nothing else.

00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:42.679
 If you were,

00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:44.139
 wish that there was a world

00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:45.679
 where you could do science

00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:47.320
 and do art,

00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:49.199
 where you could

00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:50.579
 analyze things

00:36:50.579 --> 00:36:51.380
 very carefully

00:36:51.380 --> 00:36:53.179
 and think really hardly

00:36:53.179 --> 00:36:54.719
 and at the same time

00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.000
 recognize beauty

00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:56.559
 and awe

00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:57.199
 and mystery

00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:58.340
 and you wish

00:36:58.340 --> 00:36:58.900
 there was a way

00:36:58.900 --> 00:36:59.980
 that both of those things

00:36:59.980 --> 00:37:00.759
 could coexist

00:37:00.759 --> 00:37:01.400
 in one,

00:37:01.619 --> 00:37:02.480
 perhaps one way,

00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:03.440
 what you are wishing

00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:05.420
 for is that Christianity

00:37:05.420 --> 00:37:06.219
 was true,

00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:07.799
 is true.

00:37:08.380 --> 00:37:09.480
 And I want to tell you,

00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:09.819
 friends,

00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:10.480
 I want to tell you,

00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:11.259
 brothers and sisters,

00:37:11.259 --> 00:37:11.880
 it's true.

00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:16.860
 Go listen to some

00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:17.900
 of Mike Lacona's tapes

00:37:17.900 --> 00:37:18.720
 and many others.

00:37:19.099 --> 00:37:20.300
 There is no better

00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:20.860
 explanation

00:37:20.860 --> 00:37:22.720
 for the historical facts

00:37:22.720 --> 00:37:24.519
 around the death

00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:25.200
 of Jesus

00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:26.640
 than that he is

00:37:26.640 --> 00:37:27.760
 resurrected from the dead.

00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:28.820
 There is no better

00:37:28.820 --> 00:37:29.820
 rational,

00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:31.320
 reasonable explanation

00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:32.440
 for the facts

00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.619
 than what that angel

00:37:35.619 --> 00:37:36.240
 just said.

00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:36.300
 Amen.

00:37:36.300 --> 00:37:36.360
 Amen.

00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:36.400
 Amen.

00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:45.059
 I have to wrap things up.

00:37:45.740 --> 00:37:46.539
 My voice is going.

00:37:49.340 --> 00:37:50.380
 April showers

00:37:50.380 --> 00:37:51.900
 bring May flowers

00:37:51.900 --> 00:37:53.480
 and they also bring allergies.

00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.599
 Could you put up

00:37:58.599 --> 00:37:59.099
 the next point

00:37:59.099 --> 00:37:59.700
 just briefly?

00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:04.780
 Excuse me.

00:38:06.220 --> 00:38:07.539
 On Friday afternoon,

00:38:07.539 --> 00:38:09.160
 April 3rd, 33 AD,

00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:10.400
 death appeared

00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:11.519
 to swallow Jesus.

00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:12.539
 I just say it appeared

00:38:12.539 --> 00:38:13.759
 not because he didn't die,

00:38:14.860 --> 00:38:15.579
 but it appeared

00:38:15.579 --> 00:38:16.019
 that death

00:38:16.019 --> 00:38:17.280
 had swallowed Jesus

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:18.219
 and death had won.

00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:19.659
 On Sunday,

00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:21.579
 April 5th, 33 AD,

00:38:22.179 --> 00:38:23.559
 people began to learn

00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:24.519
 that Jesus

00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.599
 had swallowed death.

00:38:31.340 --> 00:38:32.800
 This tiny little man

00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:33.900
 probably wasn't much taller

00:38:33.900 --> 00:38:35.119
 than five foot tall,

00:38:35.980 --> 00:38:36.460
 scrawny

00:38:36.460 --> 00:38:37.739
 and not very good looking.

00:38:37.739 --> 00:38:40.839
 scrawny

00:38:40.839 --> 00:38:41.500
 because he was

00:38:41.500 --> 00:38:42.759
 lower working class,

00:38:43.759 --> 00:38:45.519
 not good looking

00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:46.119
 because that's what

00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:47.319
 the Bible tells us.

00:38:48.439 --> 00:38:49.559
 He died on the cross

00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:50.759
 amidst blood

00:38:50.759 --> 00:38:51.219
 and gore

00:38:51.219 --> 00:38:51.919
 and jeers

00:38:51.919 --> 00:38:53.159
 on Friday,

00:38:53.619 --> 00:38:54.539
 April 3rd,

00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:56.099
 and on Sunday,

00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:58.000
 April 5th.

00:38:58.799 --> 00:39:00.319
 We began to learn

00:39:00.319 --> 00:39:01.419
 that he

00:39:01.419 --> 00:39:02.879
 had swallowed death.

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.840
 Now,

00:39:08.200 --> 00:39:08.640
 I'm going to go

00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:09.760
 through these things

00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:10.640
 a little bit quick.

00:39:11.539 --> 00:39:11.780
 You know,

00:39:11.900 --> 00:39:12.599
 for Christians,

00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.260
 this is why

00:39:15.260 --> 00:39:16.079
 for Christians,

00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:17.660
 the grave

00:39:17.660 --> 00:39:19.019
 is a bed of hope

00:39:19.019 --> 00:39:20.400
 for those in Christ.

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.320
 the sweetest lie

00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:26.619
 that Canadians

00:39:26.619 --> 00:39:27.840
 tell themselves

00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:29.920
 is that they

00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:30.760
 will never die.

00:39:32.099 --> 00:39:33.139
 And the second

00:39:33.139 --> 00:39:34.160
 sweetest lie

00:39:34.160 --> 00:39:35.320
 that Canadians

00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:36.180
 tell themselves

00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:37.079
 is that even

00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:37.820
 if they die,

00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:39.360
 it will all work out.

00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:42.019
 We know

00:39:42.019 --> 00:39:42.740
 from the teachings

00:39:42.740 --> 00:39:43.280
 of Jesus

00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:44.220
 that those things

00:39:44.220 --> 00:39:45.019
 are not true.

00:39:46.619 --> 00:39:46.980
 Of course,

00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:47.920
 it's just biologically

00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:48.680
 the case that we're

00:39:48.680 --> 00:39:49.460
 all going to die.

00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.980
 And for many people,

00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.480
 as their death becomes,

00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:55.840
 their upcoming death

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:56.840
 becomes a reality,

00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:58.000
 they face terror.

00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:00.660
 But for Christians,

00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:01.760
 for those who are

00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:02.660
 in Christ,

00:40:04.300 --> 00:40:06.400
 in his finished work,

00:40:07.300 --> 00:40:08.500
 in his arms,

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 where he has come

00:40:09.680 --> 00:40:10.220
 into them

00:40:10.220 --> 00:40:11.119
 to be their savior,

00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:12.360
 and they are in him,

00:40:13.860 --> 00:40:15.220
 the grave becomes

00:40:15.220 --> 00:40:15.980
 a bed of hope.

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 If Jesus tarries,

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 there will be a time

00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:21.500
 when my eyes close,

00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:22.079
 and I don't know

00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:22.960
 what I will see

00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:23.900
 as my eyes close.

00:40:24.019 --> 00:40:24.660
 Maybe I will be

00:40:24.660 --> 00:40:25.160
 in a coma.

00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:26.579
 Maybe I'll see

00:40:26.579 --> 00:40:27.160
 the ceiling.

00:40:27.420 --> 00:40:28.039
 Maybe I'll see

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 the loved ones

00:40:30.019 --> 00:40:30.820
 around me,

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 and my eyes

00:40:31.900 --> 00:40:32.720
 will close.

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 And the moment

00:40:34.420 --> 00:40:35.700
 my eyes close

00:40:35.700 --> 00:40:37.119
 on my loved ones,

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 my eyes open

00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:38.460
 in glory.

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 And that is

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 the Christian hope.

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 hope.

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 That is the Christian hope.

00:40:49.619 --> 00:40:50.579
 Why did they go

00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:51.280
 without fear?

00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:52.579
 Why did they go

00:40:52.579 --> 00:40:52.960
 with fear?

00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:53.360
 Look at,

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 if you could put up

00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:54.440
 verse 8,

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 and they went out

00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:57.200
 and fled from the tomb

00:40:57.200 --> 00:40:57.940
 for trembling

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 and astonishment

00:40:58.740 --> 00:40:59.440
 had seized them,

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 and they said nothing

00:41:00.200 --> 00:41:00.760
 to anyone,

00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:01.740
 for they were afraid.

00:41:02.700 --> 00:41:03.400
 I put this,

00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:04.780
 I had not talked about this

00:41:04.780 --> 00:41:05.380
 all the way through

00:41:05.380 --> 00:41:06.039
 Mark's gospel.

00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:06.519
 If you go,

00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:07.480
 I'm going to make

00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:08.099
 this little point.

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 If you go back

00:41:08.720 --> 00:41:09.079
 and you read

00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:09.740
 Mark's gospel

00:41:09.740 --> 00:41:10.260
 on your own,

00:41:10.619 --> 00:41:11.079
 one of the things

00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:11.740
 you're going to find

00:41:11.740 --> 00:41:13.500
 is his disciples

00:41:13.500 --> 00:41:15.480
 kept getting it wrong.

00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.079
 They kept not doing

00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:18.480
 what he wanted them to do.

00:41:18.860 --> 00:41:21.039
 They kept getting it wrong,

00:41:21.260 --> 00:41:22.440
 like all the time,

00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:23.539
 like his mom thinks

00:41:23.539 --> 00:41:24.280
 he's insane.

00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:25.720
 I'm not making that up.

00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:26.480
 Like his sisters

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:27.079
 and brothers

00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:28.740
 think Jesus is insane.

00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:29.860
 Like, you know,

00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:31.519
 just after Jesus says

00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:32.380
 he's going to die

00:41:32.380 --> 00:41:33.019
 on the cross,

00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:34.000
 the disciples get

00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:34.679
 in an argument

00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:35.420
 about who's going

00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:37.000
 to sit at Jesus' throne

00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.980
 when he rules the world.

00:41:39.139 --> 00:41:39.960
 Like they keep

00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:40.960
 getting it wrong.

00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:42.099
 And so the gospel

00:41:42.099 --> 00:41:42.860
 of Mark ends

00:41:42.860 --> 00:41:43.900
 in the most brilliant way.

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:44.840
 How do I believe

00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:45.480
 that Jesus died?

00:41:45.539 --> 00:41:46.400
 I couldn't go see

00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:47.220
 the empty tomb.

00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:48.360
 I believe it

00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:49.119
 because the tomb

00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:49.639
 is empty,

00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:50.880
 and I've been told

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:51.559
 that Jesus rose

00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:51.980
 from the dead.

00:41:51.980 --> 00:41:53.240
 That's how all of us believe.

00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:54.960
 And the question ends

00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.960
 in a bit of an ironic

00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:56.780
 type of way,

00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:57.980
 like an odd type of way,

00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:58.940
 because it's a challenge

00:41:58.940 --> 00:41:59.639
 to you and me.

00:42:00.059 --> 00:42:01.019
 Am I going to be

00:42:01.019 --> 00:42:01.579
 like the woman

00:42:01.579 --> 00:42:02.360
 and be afraid?

00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:05.619
 Like, I'll be honest,

00:42:05.699 --> 00:42:06.659
 when I made that comment

00:42:06.659 --> 00:42:08.059
 about chest feeding units,

00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:09.240
 I wondered whether

00:42:09.240 --> 00:42:10.179
 I should say something

00:42:10.179 --> 00:42:11.079
 like that in Canada

00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:12.619
 in 2022.

00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:13.659
 And you all know.

00:42:14.019 --> 00:42:14.719
 You all know

00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:15.679
 that that's the case.

00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:18.380
 Because we can be afraid

00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:19.639
 to speak and bear witness

00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:20.340
 to the truth.

00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.000
 And the text

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:22.880
 is calling you,

00:42:23.200 --> 00:42:24.280
 it's calling me,

00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.100
 to listen to what

00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:27.260
 the angel said,

00:42:27.660 --> 00:42:28.539
 to listen to what

00:42:28.539 --> 00:42:29.620
 Jesus promised,

00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.800
 to trust that it's true,

00:42:32.180 --> 00:42:33.360
 and to not live out

00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:34.039
 of fear.

00:42:35.940 --> 00:42:37.320
 Not be like those women

00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:38.240
 who obviously changed

00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:39.180
 their mind later on,

00:42:39.240 --> 00:42:39.600
 and, you know,

00:42:39.640 --> 00:42:40.660
 there's all that other stuff,

00:42:40.780 --> 00:42:42.720
 but not to be like that.

00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.300
 To walk with a confidence

00:42:45.300 --> 00:42:46.740
 not based in my flesh,

00:42:46.820 --> 00:42:48.120
 not based on my accomplishment,

00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:49.339
 but based on Christ,

00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:50.500
 to not live in fear.

00:42:50.659 --> 00:42:51.859
 Jesus doesn't want us

00:42:51.859 --> 00:42:52.699
 to live in fear.

00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:55.759
 He doesn't want us

00:42:55.759 --> 00:42:56.739
 to live by fear,

00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:58.219
 live by fear of death,

00:42:58.359 --> 00:42:59.279
 live by lies,

00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:01.139
 live by injustice,

00:43:01.819 --> 00:43:02.659
 live by hatred.

00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:04.259
 He wants us to live

00:43:04.259 --> 00:43:05.019
 by the truth.

00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:06.440
 He wants us to live

00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:07.139
 by goodness.

00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:08.219
 He wants us to live

00:43:08.219 --> 00:43:08.839
 by beauty.

00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:10.400
 He wants us to live

00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:11.019
 by justice.

00:43:11.359 --> 00:43:11.960
 He doesn't want us

00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:12.819
 to live by fear.

00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:13.799
 That's what he wants us,

00:43:13.859 --> 00:43:14.739
 that's how he wants us

00:43:14.739 --> 00:43:15.119
 to live,

00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:16.059
 brothers and sisters.

00:43:16.059 --> 00:43:23.219
 so the last two points very briefly if you put up number seven Jesus confers grace

00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:31.099
 triune God-given life-giving grace to the unworthy his grace to the unworthy disciples his grace to

00:43:31.099 --> 00:43:37.079
 the unworthy Peter the grace to the unworthy women his grace to unworthy George his ungrace

00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:44.059
 his grace to unworthy Adam I mean Andrew his grace to the unworthy Joe his grace to unworthy

00:43:44.059 --> 00:43:53.739
 Ken and unworthy Uzo and and and Amy and Deborah and and Diane and Louise grace to the unworthy

00:43:53.739 --> 00:44:03.759
 George proclaimed and then the final point your only hope my only hope in life and death

00:44:03.759 --> 00:44:11.139
 is the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ that is my hope in life and death

00:44:11.139 --> 00:44:17.379
 that is the only hope and he wants us to live as people of hope and we are people of hope when

00:44:17.379 --> 00:44:22.699
 the life and death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ become the story that we live by when

00:44:22.699 --> 00:44:31.639
 we are in him because we trust him as our Christ our savior our Lord and that is a life of hope your

00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:37.559
 only hope in life and death is the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ invite you

00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:46.440
 to stand please stand let's bow our heads in prayer

00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:56.119
 father you know how frail we are you know how many fears we have and you know better than even we do

00:44:56.119 --> 00:45:04.119
 how unworthy we are time and time and time again so father we thank you for grace we thank you for the

00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:10.119
 grace that comes to us through Jesus we thank you for what he did for us on the cross we thank you for

00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:16.279
 his defeat of death we thank you that he made sure that people understood that not only was the body

00:45:16.279 --> 00:45:21.819
 gone but that it was gone because he was alive we give you thanks and praise that even now he is in

00:45:21.819 --> 00:45:28.579
 heaven and that he intercedes for us that when he's he walks with us and intercedes for us that he is

00:45:28.579 --> 00:45:36.400
 with us that he still is Emmanuel God with us and that one day he will come visibly powerfully in glory

00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:43.219
 to bring this created world to its end to to knit together that which should be knit and and and to

00:45:43.219 --> 00:45:47.539
 put to death that which should be put to death and to bring in the new heaven and the new earth and that

00:45:47.539 --> 00:45:52.619
 he has died and risen from the dead to fit us for heaven father we thank you for what Christ has done

00:45:52.619 --> 00:45:58.579
 we thank you for what he will continue to do in our lives and we ask Lord that you help the gospel

00:45:58.579 --> 00:46:05.920
 to be real to our hearts so that we will not live by fear but that we will live by hope and we ask this

00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:11.059
 in the name of Jesus your son and our savior and all God's people said amen

00:46:11.059 --> 00:46:20.259
 Amen

00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.400
 Amen

00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.719
 Amen

00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:35.880
 Amen

00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:36.219
 Amen

00:46:39.579 --> 00:46:40.139
 Amen