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 Okay, so we're looking this evening at the, we're going through a list of the different

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 gifts of the Spirit, and this evening we're looking at the gift of tongue speaking.

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 So we read a passage in Acts which spoke about that, and now we're going to read another

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 passage in 1 Corinthians chapter 14 and verses 1 to 19.

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 In chapter 12 actually, before we get to that, chapter 12 it lists out the spiritual gifts,

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 and it says, to another faith by the same gift, to another gifts of healing, by the

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 one Spirit, to another working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another ability to

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 distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation

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 of tongues.

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 And then we come to chapter 14, which speaks a little bit more, it's the only place, the

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 other place in the Bible that speaks about this, and we're going to read verses 1 to

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 19 and then I'll preach about this theme this evening.

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 Pursue love and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.

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 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God, for no one understands

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 him but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.

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 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and

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 courage and consolation.

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 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself but the one who prophesies builds

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 up the church.

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 Now, I want you all to speak in tongues but even more to prophesy.

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 The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues unless someone interprets

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 so that the church may be built up.

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 Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking in a tongue, how will I benefit you unless I

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 bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching?

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 But even lifeless instruments such as the flute or the harp do not give distinct notes.

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 How will anyone know what is played?

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 And if the bugle gives an indistinct sound, who will be ready for battle?

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 So with yourselves, if you, with your tongue, you utter speaks that is not intelligible,

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 how will anyone know what is said?

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 For you will be speaking into the air.

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 There are doubtless many different languages in the world and none is without meaning.

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 But if you do not know the meaning of the language, I will be a foreigner to the speaker

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 and the speaker a foreigner to me.

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 So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel

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 in building up the church.

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 Therefore one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret.

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 For if I pray in a tongue, my Spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.

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 What am I to do?

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 I will pray with my Spirit, but I will pray with my mind also.

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 I will sing praise with my Spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.

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 Otherwise, if you give thanks with your Spirit, how can anyone in position of an outsider

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 say amen to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?

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 For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.

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 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.

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 Nevertheless, in church, I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct

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 others than 10,000 words in a tongue.

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 Okay, we will stop there and we are going to look at this theme this evening.

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 Okay, quite a controversial chapter for us, maybe, quite a difficult chapter and quite

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 a difficult theme.

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 And this is possibly where there may be a little bit more divergence in our thinking

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 in terms of controversies within the wider church between what we believe in Reformed

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 theology and what charismatic theology, as it is so called, will believe.

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 We therefore go in different directions in many ways when it comes to particularly these

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 what might be called signs and wonder type gifts of the Spirit that are being spoken

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 of, miracles and tongue speaking and healing particularly these kind of gifts.

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 So I realize and I know that I will not be settling the matter this evening, okay, but

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 there are certain things that I would like to aim for.

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 The first is that it is really important that we engage with Scripture, that we engage with

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 the Bible, not being afraid to do so even when it is difficult, and understand and know

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 where the emphasis of Scripture lies.

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 That's really important for us as believers in this or in any other subject that we're

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 looking at.

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 Also, I think when we are looking at an area where there is a difference of opinion and

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 a different way of interpreting Scripture, then we need to be generous in our critique

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 of other people because there's no doubt we can learn from them and learn from nearly

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 everyone we disagree with.

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 I think that's a good principle in life generally and particularly in this area.

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 And also, as we do so, be aware of our own weaknesses, the weaknesses of our own position,

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 of our own lives maybe, which sometimes do not necessarily reflect well on what we believe.

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 So we're aware of our own weaknesses, we are generous in our critique of others, and we

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 seek to understand the emphasis of Scripture in this as in all other areas.

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 So any way of introduction, I just want to give a brief overview, a very brief overview

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 of the strengths and weaknesses.

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 And by its very nature, it needs to be a generalization.

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 So I apologize because it's a generalization.

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 All generalizations will have some truth, but they are nonetheless generalizations.

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 I hope that there's at least some kind of sense of usefulness in so doing.

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 The strengths and concerns maybe that I would highlight in the charismatic movement, and

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 I know that that is in itself very broad.

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 And also some of our own, in our own reform tradition, some of the strengths and some

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 of the concerns that we would have.

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 With regard to the charismatic movement, these are general observations.

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 Many who have, or base, have a charismatic theology that undergirds their faith, are

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 tremendously godly people and very passionate about their faith.

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 They stress very strongly the reality of God in their lives, in their worship particularly.

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 They believe in the power of God and the willingness of God to convert people and to see lives

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 transform.

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 And they themselves believe very strongly in the power of sharing their faith and seeing

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 the lives of other people transform.

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 They have, I have found certainly in my experience, tremendously committed prayer lives.

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 And they worship with Pentecostal passion, and I have a great personal love and respect

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 for many within the charismatic tradition, and for how they live their lives and how

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 they glorify and serve Jesus in their lives.

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 Some concerns I would share, and it's maybe not so much with individuals, but more with

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 a, if we can call it a worldwide movement, the charismatic movement, there will sometimes

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 be an emphasis of experience, Christian, or a spiritual experience overriding Christian

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 truth, or that truth is moulded by experience rather than the other way around.

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 They can be guilty of encouraging a two-tier Christianity.

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 I'm going to speak a little bit more about that when they, when they emphasize a, a, a

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 later experience to conversion, which is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, where you receive

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 the Holy Spirit later than you receive Christ, and the mark of that is speaking in tongue.

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 So I'm going to come on to speak about that in a little while.

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 But really, sometimes the, the focus on signs and wonders, external manifestations of the

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 truth in very dramatic ways can sometimes be problematic.

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 But for me, the greatest concern I would have with the worldwide charismatic movement is

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 its emphasis on the prosperity gospel, and it would preach very much, particularly in,

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 in Africa, where the gospel is, is, is exponentially growing, but often through television, evangelism,

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 evangelists such as Benny Hinn or Kreato Daller or Joel Osteen from America, and they've

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 got really expensive and really flash kind of presentations of the gospel, but who genuinely

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 are generally express a gospel that focuses on, on prosperity and, you know, health, kind

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 of health, wealth and prosperity gospel, and in its, its, in its rawest form is no gospel

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 at all, the prosperity gospel.

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 Trust Jesus and it will make you rich and healthy and well.

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 There are very little mention of the atonement or the cross or carrying your cross or humble

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 obedience, suffering and perseverance, and it is an attractive gospel, and it is one

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 that is powerfully moving in the world in which we live, and I would say, I would be

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 very concerned by that, very concerned by that particular emphasis.

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 But in our own reform tradition, what are some of our strengths?

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 I think will we value the primacy and the significance and the importance of God's

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 word for faith and life, and we recognize the fundamental truth of, of what God has

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 given us in His word as the final word, we look for truth and for truth as it's revealed

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 in Jesus Christ to renew our minds as well as our hearts.

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 We do focus I think on miracle, I hope, but particularly the miracle of grace to transform

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 life and society.

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 We believe in the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit for all people, and their emphasis

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 on the glory of the sovereignty of God is significant.

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 Our concerns, oh well, I could speak all night about our concerns, as an insider, it can

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 be that we are too cerebral, that we just focus on the intellect too much.

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 We rely too much just on knowledge rather than on experience and on the reality of Jesus

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 Christ in our day-to-day living.

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 There can be in our tradition a discontinuity between faith and life, a lacking of fervour,

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 the frozen chosen.

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 We rest on the pride of our knowledge at the expense of the urgency and the passion for

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 reaching out to the lost, our prayer lives, our witness.

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 Both traditions can be guilty of separatism and being divided and having that kind of

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 mentality which is unhelpful and often proud.

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 So a very brief summary of some of the strengths and weaknesses of the different traditions

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 that we're thinking about.

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 But I want to look at two areas briefly here this evening with regard to the gift of tongues

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 as it's given to us in the Bible.

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 Two areas for consideration.

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 One is the baptism in the Holy Spirit, which I mentioned at the beginning, which Colin

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 read about in Acts chapter 2, and is the basis for the charismatic theology behind a second

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 blessing that the disciples were converted, they belonged to Jesus, and then they had

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 to wait until the Holy Spirit was sent.

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 When the Holy Spirit came, the evidence of that was they all spoke in tongues.

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 And they have taken that as being a principle as a mark of this empowering that the Spirit

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 gives in the second blessing, and the mark of that is that you speak in tongues.

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 I'll say a little bit more about that.

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 That two-stage experience, conversion and then empowering.

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 And that empowering gives you the fullness of the Spirit, and it makes you able to work

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 and serve Jesus Christ.

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 Some Christians don't have it, and they're encouraged to wait on the Spirit and pray and

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 plead and tarry until the Spirit comes and baptizes them with His presence.

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 And the evidence of that is that they will speak in tongues.

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 Okay.

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 So, what can we say about that account in Acts, and how do we apply it in our own lives

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 today?

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 What we find is that it's a very different passage, because what's happening there is

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 really that the Holy Spirit is being poured out on the Christian church for the first

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 time in the New Covenant.

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 Jesus said, you know, in Christ in the upper room, you will wait.

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 I will depart, I will ascend to heaven, but I will send the Holy Spirit.

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 And the Holy Spirit was to be given to the whole church.

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 And in Acts chapter 2, we read there the prophecy, I don't know if we did that, actually read

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 the prophecy.

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 We did, we read the prophecy from Joel in these last days that God declares, I will

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 pour out my Spirit on all flesh.

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 And this is what happened at Pentecost.

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 It was a unique event.

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 It was a once-for-all event for the Holy Spirit, as God's gift to the church was poured out

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 on all of the church as it was then.

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 The whole of the church was gathered together.

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 And it was ushering a new era where there was not only speaking in different languages,

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 because there was people from all over the world and they all heard the gospel in their

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 own language.

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 It wasn't an ecstatic language, it was just different languages.

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 It was also accompanied by what looked like tongues of fire and what felt like a mighty

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 powerful wind.

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 So there was this whole concept of the gospel coming with power, with purity, and with universality.

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 The gospel wasn't just as Thomas was talking about this morning, it wasn't just for the

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 Jewish people, it was for the whole world.

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 And so the gift of different languages were poured out at Pentecost as a mark of this change

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 and of this newness and of the gospel going out to every part of the world, in Judea,

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 in Samaria, and in the whole world, the gospel was to go out.

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 So this was a unique event.

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 It was the evidence that we had moved into the age of the Spirit.

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 Mission was for all.

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 You remember what happened at Babel, the Old Testament, where God confused our languages,

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 because they wanted to set themselves up as being those who could reach heaven and they

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 wanted to make a name for themselves?

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 Well, this is kind of, ironically, this is the opposite of Babel.

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 It is God not confusing their language, but making the gospel clear to every different

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 language and people who were at Pentecost and that a sign that the gospel was going out

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 to the whole world.

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 As Peter goes on and preaches, he says to them, Repent and believe in verse 38.

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 And that was the gospel message.

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 The gospel message was to go out with this great message which was revealed to all these

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 people in all their own tongues and to bring the gospel to them.

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 And the Spirit then was for all of them.

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 The Spirit went into every Christian.

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 They were all baptized in the Spirit on that day, as we read and have read in Romans 9,

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 for you ever or not, in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells

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 in you.

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 Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

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 Every believer has the Spirit of Christ.

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 And this baptism in the Spirit was the unique first event that was a reminder that the gift

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 of the Holy Spirit went out to the whole church and to the whole world.

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 So I would argue very strongly against the whole concept of a second blessing as a distinct

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 and separate stage where some people are lower class Christians as it were, they've only

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 got Jesus.

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 And then others are empowered to serve in this once for all filling when they receive

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 the baptism of the Holy Spirit and they therefore speak in tongues.

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 That teaching isn't given to us in the New Testament.

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 It has been extrapolated from this passage here.

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 I do recognize we all need to be kept to keep on being filled with the Spirit as Ephesians

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 chapter 5 verse 18 tells us.

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 And there's no doubt that that is important and significant for us that we are those who

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 grieve and quench and resist the Spirit.

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 We need to keep on being filled with the Spirit.

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 But we don't see in Scripture teaching that says you receive Christ in a later stage,

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 you receive the Spirit and the mark of that is speaking in tongues.

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 So that is one area, baptism in the Spirit, which is a fairly fundamental area in charismatic

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 theology.

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 The second is a little bit different and not quite so, I don't think so, clear cut is the

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 gift of speaking in tongues, which is different.

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 I think even in charismatic theology, it's different from baptism in the Spirit as it

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 is spoken of here.

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 And for that we look to 1 Corinthians chapter really 12 to 14.

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 We have the different gifts spoken of in chapter 12 and the gift of speaking in tongues is

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 one of them and then the gift of interpreting tongues is another.

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 I think the whole passage 12 to 14, you should go and read it if you have time, because it's

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 very interesting.

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 And it's a difficult section of the Bible for both charismatic theology and reform

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 theology, reform thinkers alike.

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 But we recognize that there are some very important things spoken of in this section.

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 It is different from baptism in the Spirit.

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 This is the gift of tongue.

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 Just as we've talked about the different gifts of the Spirit, this is the gift of tongue

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 speaking.

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 Now, among lots of commentators, there's a difference of opinion even in chapter 14

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 in the section we read exactly about what tongue speaking was in this account.

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 And it seems to be unclear.

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 You can take some parts of the chapter and it looks like it's just different languages

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 again, foreign languages that God gave some people an amazing spiritual gift to be able

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 to speak and then someone else to interpret.

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 And both can be said, you know, different languages, chapter 12 and verse 10, it says

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 to another, the workings of minute, another prophecy, to another, the ability to another

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 various kinds of tongues or various kinds of languages that could be interpreted to

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 another interpretation of these languages.

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 But then in chapter 14 and verse 2, we have, for men who speak in a tongue speak not to

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 men but to God, for no one understands them, he utters mysteries in the Spirit.

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 And that would tend to suggest that it might be more of an ecstatic spiritual language.

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 So there's differences of opinion and although the word tongues is the same in acts as it

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 is in Corinth, but we do recognize that there are differences, although it's still regarded

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 by those from our charismatic tradition, our brothers and sisters, that it is an absolutely

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 important spiritual gift for today.

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 But even then, we have a little bit of confusion about what is the purpose of the gift, because

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 in verse 4 of chapter 14 that we read, sorry, in verse 2, it would seem to be that it is

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 a private language that someone in a tongue speaks not to men but to God, and just is

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 something for personal edification.

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 But then in verse 5 it speaks about if someone's going to speak in tongues, let someone interpret

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 it so that the church may be built up.

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 So is it for the building up of the church as it's interpreted, or is it just for the

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 individual in this private language, in an ecstatic private language before themselves

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 and God?

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 These are some of the difficulties that are in the passage.

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 What can we say about the gift of tongue speaking in Corinth and maybe for us?

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 Well, can you say one or two things?

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 One is that not everyone had it, okay, that's fine, that's a gift.

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 Like all the other gifts, not everyone had the gift, so it's different from baptism in

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 the Spirit, which the whole of the church had at the beginning.

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 It was experienced in a church, Corinth, the church here, it was an immature church.

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 It was a divided church.

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 It was a church that wasn't spiritually mature.

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 It was an early church.

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 It seems that tongue speaking, whether ecstatic or different languages, was overvalued by

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 this church, and some people were proud that they were better than other Christians because

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 they had this gift and other people didn't have it.

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 And Paul's speaking into that context, and he concludes the whole section, really in

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 verse 39 of chapter 14, and said, So my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy and do not forbid

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 speaking in tongues.

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 So it really, it doesn't give it a huge ringing endorsement even at the end of this section.

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 However, Paul did speak in tongues, and he wished that others spoke in tongues.

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 And we need to recognize that Paul does say that.

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 He himself spoke in tongues, verse 18, and he encouraged others to do so.

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 However, the emphasis very clearly in this passage is that when tongues were experienced

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 by the church, by people in the church in Corinth, the value that was really on these

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 tongues being interpreted.

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 And that's why he speaks about prophesy and the importance of God revealing truth.

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 Remember, all of this is before the Bible was completed, before they had the word of

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 God completed for them.

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 And Paul is really insistent in public that tongue speaking, and this would, for me, tend

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 to suggest that it's more like another language rather than something ecstatic, because it

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 could be interpreted, and therefore a message came from God.

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 It was to be edifying, and edifying for the whole church, for the building up of believers.

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 Remember, these were the days before the canon of Scripture was completed.

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 The church needed to know what God was saying, they heard that through prophesy, and they

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 heard that through tongue speaking that was interpreted, and they heard that through teaching

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 and preaching and the apostolic foundations that were being laid.

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 So remember that when we think about Corinth.

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 But also remember, I'm going to come back to this, Paul's emphasis in Corinth, this

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 early New Testament church, which had tongue speaking, which also had a lot of crazy things

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 going on, that I desire to know nothing among you except Christ and Him crucified.

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 Chapter 2 verse 2, that was absolutely crucial to what Paul was emphasizing in this church,

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 the supremacy of grace and truth, and I'm going to come back to that because you'll

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 see there's a love sandwich in this section, there's a love sandwich.

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 But also just before we come towards the conclusion of it, we do remember that the New Testament

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 church did have miraculous foundational gifts.

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 We've already looked at some of them.

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 The apostolic gift which ceased with the death of the apostles was a foundational gift, and

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 in Ephesians 2.20 we have that the church was built on the foundation of the apostles

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 and the prophets.

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 So we recognize that there was these foundational gifts that were really important, they were

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 given at the early part of the church before the Scripture was completed.

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 And we also recognize that they seem to have been authenticated because there was no finished

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 Scripture.

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 They seem to be authenticated by signs and wonders, which I think some of these gifts

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 refer to.

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 I'm going to move on from that one.

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 In Romans 15, Paul says, by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of

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 God so that Jerusalem and all around the Elyricum I have fulfilled the ministry of the gospel

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 of Christ.

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 He's speaking about his own apostolic authority, and he's saying that his ministry, his teaching

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 was authenticated by signs and wonders, miracles, tongue speaking, healings, all of these kind

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 of things.

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 And then again in 2 Corinthians, the signs of a true apostle, he says, were performed

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 among you with utmost patience, with signs and wonders and mighty works.

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 So it seems as if that the early church and the foundation of the apostles and the prophets

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 and what they were bringing was authenticated by amazing signs and wonders.

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 And again in Hebrews, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles

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 and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his word.

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 There's this sense in which the authentication of the message was given in signs and wonders

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 to, as it were, back up the witness that the apostles had to the death and resurrection,

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 resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ.

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 And I think Paul here in Corinth is addressing some of the uses and abuses of these signs

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 and wonders.

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 So the gift of tongues.

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 What can we say about speaking in tongues today?

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 As far as I can make out in the charismatic tradition, tongue speaking is almost exclusively,

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 as far as I can make out, is almost exclusively seen as a private, ecstatic language between

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 the individual and their God.

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 I am not aware of tongue speaking in charismatic circles being seen as foreign languages that

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 are miraculously given and then interpreted.

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 It is seen almost exclusively as a, almost like a private language between the individual

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 and their God in order for them to draw closer.

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 I'm not sure how often tongue speaking in a charismatic context would be interpreted.

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 It is connected with the Holy Spirit empowering and it is for many a very real and meaningful

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 experience as it draws them closer to God.

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 As it's done humbly and as that's done for the common good, as it's done in humility,

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 in whom my God is sovereign in His gifts and in His use of gifts, I have not much really

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 to say into that.

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 Personally, my communion with God is sweet in whatever language.

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 I've only got one.

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 So well, it's that and groaning.

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 So these are the two languages that I have.

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 But for me, the evidence and the assurance and the blessing of the Holy Spirit is sensing

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 His love in my heart and knowing His transforming power as I seek to serve Him in grace and

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 humility.

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 And communication and sharing that truth with others is hugely significant.

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 I am aware of constantly being in need of being filled with the Holy Spirit and of knowing

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 more of the precious gift I have that I was given at conversion, that I was given the

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 gift of God's presence in the person of this Holy Spirit.

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 So I'm going to just close with a couple of things, just speaking about the emphasis of

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 the New Testament.

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 What's the emphasis of Paul here and of the New Testament?

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 Well, it's that love sandwich.

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 Okay, so you've got chapter 12, which speaks about the gifts.

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 You've got chapter 14 that expresses a bit more about these gifts of healing.

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 And then in chapter 13, there's a love sandwich, the one that we all know so well, the one

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 that's often read at weddings.

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 And it starts with, I will show you the most excellent way, and it finishes, pursue love

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 and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts.

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 So the emphasis of Scripture, the emphasis of God's word always is this significant reality

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 of knowing God's love in our hearts.

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 That's the emphasis of Scripture, knowing God through His grace and through His salvation.

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 Because I think signs and wonders can take away from that.

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 If you remember, it's the knowledge of God that Jesus says, and then I will declare,

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 I never knew you, depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

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 And if you remember, the precursor to that is them saying, Lord, Lord, did we not do

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 great miracles in Your name?

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 Did we not raise the dead?

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 Did we not do amazing things?

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 Great signs and wonders.

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 But He said, look, you didn't know me.

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 You didn't know me.

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 It was the knowledge of God through grace and through His greatest gift of salvation

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 is absolutely crucial to us in knowing His love.

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 That is the most important thing for the common good of the church, is that we live lives

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 of grace and love.

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 And they're in His miracle and they're in His power, and they're in His great significance.

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 I think the placement of 1 Corinthians 13 is absolutely divine and important, because

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 it reminds us that this is the most excellent way.

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 Why is it important?

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 Because God's focus is on character, first and foremost, as we reflect what Jesus has

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 done for us, and as we follow Jesus, the fruit of the Spirit is more significant than the

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 gifts of the Spirit, because the fruit of the Spirit says who we are.

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 The gifts of the Spirit is what we do.

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 And if we get our character right under Christ, then we know that we will use the gifts He

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 gives us in the right way, whatever and however we understand these gifts.

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 His sovereign gifts will flow when we are bearing the fruit of the Spirit.

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 And this is what's most important for you and me tonight, is love, joy, peace, patience,

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 kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

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 The gifts of the Spirit, sorry, the fruit of the Spirit, which He says that is the most

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 excellent way.

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 The gifts are will or sovereign.

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 They're God's gifts.

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 But how we live our day out, the focus is on our character.

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 And I think that's outplayed in Scripture to self as we understand its infallible truth

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 for us and its revelation.

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 In itself, it's progressive in what it reveals.

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 And you'll find that there's very little mention, there's no mention after this chapter.

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 In any of the later epistles, in any of these important epistles, particularly the one to

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 Romans, there's no mention of these spiritual gifts.

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 There's no mention of tongue speaking, interpretation, and in all the problems of the churches, the

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 second blessing is never given as a solution.

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 Speaking in tongues is never given as a solution.

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 Doing miracles is never given as a solution.

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 Raising people from the dead is not given as a solution.

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 It is living out the love of Christ.

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 And we recognize that emphasis.

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 But we also recognize the huge emphasis on the Holy Spirit in every believer.

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 We certainly must do that because the Holy Spirit points us to Jesus Christ.

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 Jesus says that himself in John 16 when he's offering the gift of the Spirit.

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 He will go, the Holy Spirit will glorify me for he will take what is mine and he will

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 declare it to you.

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 He has this great work in our lives of declaring Jesus and of making Jesus known to us.

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 And he does empower us for service, for mission.

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 He was given in the context of mission, of the good news of the gospel going out to the

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 whole world.

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 That's our calling.

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 We have great good news.

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 We have so much to learn from our charismatic friends and the passion and the commitment

00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.519
 they have to reach out to the gospel far more than we do.

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 And they're seeing far more conversions than we see because there's a deep-seated belief

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 in who they are and what they do.

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 And that is absolutely challenging to us.

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 And we need to seek to recognize the emphasis of who the Holy Spirit is and what he does

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 and we're not to quench him, we're not to resist him, we're not to oppose him in our

00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:42.199
 lives and hearts.

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 He is the Spirit of truth.

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 Remember that.

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 And in conclusion, remember that the gifts of the Spirit are the gifts of a sovereign

00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.759
 God.

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 He knows the needs of the church and the disposal of his gifts or otherwise are with him.

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 So we don't make any final judgment on these because the needs of the church may change

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 and God may change things.

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 But as we understand Scripture, we know where its emphasis lies and its emphasis lies on

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 character and the gifts, the fruit of the Spirit and the most excellent way, faith,

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 hope and love, the greatest of these is love.

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 Let's bow our heads and pray.

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 Father God, we ask and pray that you would help us to understand better your truth.

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 We recognize that we understand only as you open our eyes to see and that we must, as

00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:45.199
 we were reminded this morning, put our trust in you.

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 Help us as Christians, young Christians, old Christians, immature Christians, mature

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 Christians.

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 Help us to look to Jesus and to find our wisdom and our strength and our help.

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 May we know the great gift that He has given us, that given all of us, amazing gift of

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 the Holy Spirit that enables us to love you and enables us to love one another.

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 New commandment I give unto you, that you love your neighbor as yourself.

00:36:13.439 --> 00:36:14.960
 What is the great commandment?

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 What is how are the commandments summed up?

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 Love God, love your neighbor, says Jesus.

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 Help us to live that and may that emphasis and that crucial centrality be ours and may

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 we not become proud in our tradition or proud of our thinking.

00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:38.159
 I thank you this evening so much for so many of our charismatic friends in this city who

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 reach out with the gospel, who love the church, who love the gospel, who are holy and prayerful

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 people, and who worship with passion and zeal.

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 And we pray for them, we pray that they would remember the emphasis of Scripture as we would

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 recognize the emphasis also and that we would remember that we head together in the same

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 direction with Jesus as our Lord and King.

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 We do thank you for them and pray your blessing on them and on us in our lives and our worship

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 for Jesus' sake.

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 Amen.