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 Hi, my name is George Sinclair. I'm the lead pastor of Church of the Messiah. It is wonderful

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 that you would like to check out some of the sermons done by Church of the Messiah, either

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 by myself or some of the others. Listen, just a couple of things. First of all, would you pray

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 for us that we will open God's Word well to His glory and for the good of people like yourself?

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 The second thing is, if you aren't connected to a church and if you are a Christian, we really,

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 I would really like to encourage you to find a good local church where they believe the Bible,

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 they preach the gospel, and if you have some trouble finding that, send us an email. We will

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 do what we can to help connect you with a good local church wherever you are. And if you're a

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 non-Christian checking us out, we're really, really, really glad you're doing that. Don't

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 hesitate to send us questions. It helps me actually to know, as I'm preaching, how to deal with the

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 types of things that you're really struggling with. So God bless.

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 It's been nearly 27 years since Henry John Dutchendorf flew his plane into the ocean and to his death.

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 off the coast of California. Now, some of you folks will know who I'm talking about if you were raised in

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 the 60s and 70s. As a boy growing up in Mexico, John Denver's music had given me a really live link

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 with the United States, which was very much where I came from, even though I was born in Mexico.

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 You can think about that later, I suppose. Just hearing him pronounce words like Blue Ridge

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 Mountains had me mesmerized. It evoked images of clear mornings and all wholesome things like

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 grandma's feather bed and homegrown tomatoes. You can imagine how thrilled I was to get to shake his

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 hand and to thank him for his music when I met him as a student in Moscow in the Soviet Union in 1984.

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 As part of a tour he was doing in the Soviet Union at the time, he and Jim Henson, famous from the

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 Muppets, were giving a small Christmas concert there in the home of the American ambassador. And I managed,

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 even as a student at a language institute in Moscow, to get the day off to go and meet and hear John Denver and

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 Jim Henson. I was well aware, of course, at the time already, that he had songs that were of a more serious

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 nature, along with songs about love and life and places like Starwood in Aspen. On his tour of the Soviet Union

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 that year, he was already singing this song. I won't sing it because I'll get arrested for disturbing

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 the peace. You'll see I stood over here as we were singing so as not to interfere with your peace.

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 But anyway, the words, one stanza went like this. It's about time we start to see it. The earth is our

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 only home. It's about time we start to face it. We can't make it here all alone. It's about time we start

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 to listen to the voices in the wind. It's about time, and it's about changes, and it's about time.

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 How many of you have heard that song? Okay, we have one. All right, that's fantastic. I've recalled

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 John Denver, not to draw the attention to, you know, my moment in glory there meeting him,

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 but because his hope for the future, his doctrine of things to come, the big word there

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 is eschatology reflects a real yearning to hear creation speak. And here he aims to be prophetic,

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 calling us to work together to care for what he believed was our only home.

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 And this brings us to the fourth and last core value of progressive Christianity that I want us

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 to reflect on. We've tried to do these reflections carefully, trying to understand what motivates it,

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 and here the big word is non-duality. That's in my title. And what in the world is that? What is non-duality?

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 Well, let me just say that this talk will be the most systematic, I suppose, in the sense of asking

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 us to think various parts of our faith, of what we confess, together as a coherent system. Don't let

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 the word put you off. Don't mentally check out at this point, please. Let me just say that the

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 Apostles' Creed that we just recited refreshes our mind about the systematic nature of our faith.

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 Because it doesn't just give us isolated points that we affirm like a shopping list or something

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 like that. In fact, we're all systematic when it comes to things that we care about that we know

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 well. Why are we systematic? Well, because we understand the component parts and how they fit

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 together. And that's a system, no matter what area of expertise you happen to have.

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 So too, as Christians, I think we need to appreciate how the ancient creeds summarize the story of

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 redemption. That is, from creation to the new creation and how God has provided the way there.

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 And it's with this tool that I think we can discern the profound non-duality in a song like John Denver's

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 Wind Song, which you can look up later today if you like. Don't look it up right now on your phones because

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 you'll get distracted with everything I'm trying to explain. So what is non-duality? Well, the non

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 tells us something is being negated, right? Non. But put in positive terms, it's the idea that reality,

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 that everything that is, is one in its being, in its essence. It's not two, but one. And I suppose

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 one form of non-duality would be materialistic. That matter is all we have. It's all that's there.

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 But in using the term non-duality, our progressive Christian friends mean something else. I suspect

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 that John Denver was more of a progressive Christian, at least in this sense. What they mean is that the

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 creator-creation distinction, creator-creation, is an illusion. And if not that, then it has somehow been

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 overcome or abolished in the incarnation. And let me explain. If they say it's an illusion,

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 they intend a form of pantheism, which is a big word for everything that is, is God. It's a little

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 more complicated than that, but that's the basic idea. If they say it's been overcome, then they will

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 extend the incarnation to all of creation. Here's how one theologian summarizes the idea of deep

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 incarnation. He says this, while God is uniquely incarnate in Jesus, that incarnation extends into

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 the depths of the created world in such a way that all living things are touched by divine grace

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 and are caught up together in movement towards union with God. You see, this sounds almost

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 reasonable because we know that the incarnation speaks of what God intends for material things,

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 for matter, for creation. The divine Logos didn't just float around like a ghost. He took on human

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 flesh, the same human and flesh and nature, which he took up in a transformed way in the resurrection

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 and ascension. But progressive Christians want to say more than that. What they mean by deep

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 incarnation is something like the Logos assumed all flesh, all material things. That's why folks like

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 Richard Rohr, one of the godfathers of today's progressive Christianity, can take a phrase like

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 Christ is all and in all, you remember from Colossians 3.11, he can take that phrase right out of context

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 and declare things like Christ and creation are the same reality.

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 You see what I mean by a distinction being abolished. With the same logic, Rohr can say that the resurrection

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 is an ongoing process, a natural extension of life itself, which Jesus' resurrection happens to illustrate.

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 And all this informs a particular way of relating to everything we encounter. Rohr asks,

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 do we approach things automatically drawing distinctions? Do we say to the gentleman we're

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 talking, do we think, is this man saved or is he unsaved? Is this lady orthodox or not so orthodox?

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 Is this man gay or is he straight? He says, if you do that, you will, quote, never be able to be a loving

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 person. Have you heard such a thing? He reinforces this with the idea that knowing God is not about

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 things of the mind, but about going into the mystery that is always darkness and light, not insisting on

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 certitude or answers. I might just point out that he's making a distinction there. The truth is, I'm not

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 sure we can really avoid making distinctions. We can't actually think unless we make distinctions of one kind

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 or another. I think it was C.S. Lewis who said that when you think, you have to think thoughts. You have to think

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 something. You have to think things. You have to do that so that you can distinguish the thing you're thinking about

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 from things that are, from the non-thing, from what it isn't. But it turns out that there's a whole area where

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 Richard Rohr really doesn't want us to think. Prayer, he says, is not supposed to involve the mind

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 since at its core it's about breathing the sacred name, in and out, he says. And he coaches you in

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 how to pray this way, breathing in Yahweh, like that. And he says, practice this and you will find

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 that it will revolutionize your prayer life. Now, I think he's right about that. He's probably right

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 about that. If instead of listening to God who speaks in his word and responding to him, I disengage

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 my mind, I'm bound to experience a revolution in my concept of God. I'll move on from the God who is

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 there, who is transcendent in relation to the world he made, and I'll move to the God who kind of flows in

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 the depth of everything, through, in and through every living thing. And in my case, right from my

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 root chakra right up to my crown. And what does this look like as I relate to what, as far as I can tell,

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 is not me? I mean the land, the rivers, the lakes, the animals, the world out there. I was going to say

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 as I relate to nature or creation, but that would presuppose the binary that our progressive friend is

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 trying to avoid. It presupposes natural versus supernatural, created versus uncreated. But

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 since progressive Christians do talk about the earth as something that's distinct from me, what do they

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 believe is my duty in relation to it? Well, Lindsay Perez Lopez, the theologian who writes for Sojourners

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 that I've been bringing into our conversation here and there, says this,

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 the Christian hope for the future is to see the world healed. Here she expresses the fourth and last

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 progressive core value that we're considering together. Quote, to strive to protect the earth

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 and ensure its integrity and sustainability. To strive to protect the earth and to ensure its integrity and

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 sustainability. That's the core value I want us to consider and respond to from scripture. I think

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 that what we can affirm here is the proper yearning to see the world endure because God declared it to be

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 good. After all, creation speaks of God's glory. Psalm 19 reflects his good design, his handiwork.

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 But because progressive Christians are also committed to this non-dualist or non-binary idea that the world

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 flows out of God's being like rays from the sun, and because they don't divide time with the fall into a

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 before and after, they are more hopeful where they shouldn't be, and they are not so hopeful where they

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 have every reason to be. Let me explain that for just a minute. We've seen how progressive Christian

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 friends read good news into the bad news when they say, well, whatever the fall may have been,

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 man's relation to God is not so terribly broken. It's still pretty much intact, so we should not dwell

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 on sin and rebellion, but we should focus on original blessing. By the same token, they read

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 bad news into the good news and assume that God's command to subdue the earth, Genesis 128, can only be

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 a bad thing. Well, why do they see it as a bad thing? See, they assume that hierarchies are a bad idea

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 when in fact the command entails a loving stewardship of creation that's given before the fall.

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 But by getting things backwards, progressive Christians can't help but go into something of a panic mode when

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 it comes to caring for the earth, because the task of seeing to its integrity and its sustainability is up to us.

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 How could it be otherwise? The upshot is that as progressive Christians think about what they call

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 incarnational mission, they declare that the next mission frontier is, well, the environment

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 where climate change activism will be the mark of true discipleship. Now, I got a sense of what that meant

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 when I did some interpreting for Greenpeace some years back. They had Russian guests and they

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 needed interpreters, so I got to be a fly on the wall of this hope that through some kind of activism,

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 we could bring in a better day and proceed to the earth's healing. Now, since I want to turn to

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 scripture, I won't dwell for long on how it is that we in the evangelical world sometimes make just a

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 little bit of room for this confusion that I'm talking about, but here's how it happens very briefly.

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 We know better than to say that in the incarnation the logos assumed all of creation, assumed all material

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 things. But sometimes we do entertain the idea that the logos assumed Christians or the church.

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 And so we come close to confusing Jesus and the church, which means we start to locate the new

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 heaven and the new earth, well, in the church. What does this look like liturgically as we think of

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 celebrating the Lord's Supper later? Well, here and there, some of our teachers would like us to think

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 that when we consecrate the bread and the wine of the Lord's Supper, that what's going on is that the

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 bread and the wine are assumed by the new creation. A little bit like the logos, assuming Jesus' human

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 nature, so the new creation assumes the consecrated bread and wine, if only for a moment. And that means

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 that for that moment, at least, we can take the world to come into our bodies. From there, the idea is

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 that you and I are priests of the new creation. We offer the world and ourselves up to God so that

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 he'll heal it. And in this way, we imagine a kind of gradual, uninterrupted line between here and the

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 new creation. Now, I hope you've understood my basic concern here. I'm talking about same team people.

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 I'm not talking about people who are coming from a totally different worldview. I'm talking about same

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 team people who are thinking that this is the way we ought to be thinking. But I'm concerned that

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 by emphasizing that the creation primarily needs to be healed, which of course it does,

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 but if that's what we emphasize on and put at the top of the list, we miss that creation needs

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 something far more radical than healing, like something like resurrection. And that's what

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 takes us to our passage in Romans. You see, when we think that the new creation is already here,

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 as if contained in the Lord's Supper, we miss the longing and the waiting for Jesus' return in glory

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 when he will come to make all things new. So let's go through Romans 8 to the passage we read.

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 And three questions come out at us as we read this passage together. What is creation waiting for?

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 What are we, God's children, waiting for? And how are we called to wait? So I'm going to

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 take that in three parts and read verses 18 to 22. Once again, follow with me. If you don't have a Bible,

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 you're very welcome to one that's up here. You may need a pair of glasses to read it if you're like me.

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 I consider, says Paul, verse 18, that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory

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 that will be revealed in us. For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be

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 revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one

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 who subjected it in hope, verse 21, that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay

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 and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God. We know that the whole creation

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 has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

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 Let me ask you, what do you think of the idea that creation is actually waiting?

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 I tend to think that we imagine that creation is just there, not an actor, but something that gets

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 acted upon. Makes sense, doesn't it? In the progressive Christian vision, it might be waiting

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 to be healed, but it's not waiting for anything like what God teaches us here in Romans 8 through Paul.

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 That's because for the progressive Christian, the future has been, as it were, collapsed into the

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 present. There's no fundamental distinction between nature as we know it and nature as it has yet to be

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 redeemed. Remember, we're not supposed to make these kind of distinctions if we're supposed to truly

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 love what's in front of us. But here in Paul's message, it's as though creation, excuse me, is a bride

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 waiting for her bridegroom to appear. The marriage still lies ahead, in other words. There's a longing

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 and waiting for the day when God will reveal to the earth its true caretakers under God. It's clear that

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 in Paul's mind, inspired by the Holy Spirit, there's a legitimate and holy hierarchy, let's say, a proper

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 place for earth to bend the knee to God's sons and daughters, all children of the first and second Adam,

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 as to monarchs in their coronation. A proper hierarchy. From there, I should say apart from the theme of

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 waiting in verse 19, there are two points in these verses that we need to pay attention to. The first is,

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 what exactly is creation longing to be liberated from? Verse 21 speaks of its bondage to decay,

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 such that according to verse 20, it experiences frustration. What do these things mean?

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 Well, because of the fall, the earth isn't sort of just weak and wobbly, but it's deformed, it's impure,

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 and it can only disintegrate. It has a shelf life, if you like. Far more than healing, it needs a complete

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 reversal of this decay, this entropy. It longs for complete restoration inside and out, and it needs a new

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 heart. It needs a new vitality. It needs a new purpose and direction. Even transfiguration, a theme

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 that's common among our Eastern Christian friends, does not quite get to the most basic need, even though

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 transfiguration does speak of the glorious restoration of an image that it lost, but decay means decay,

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 and the earth longs for integrity, for reintegration, so that it's once again fit for its original purpose.

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 Excuse me, the clear teaching here is of the earth's restoration. That means that the fire that we read

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 about in 2 Peter 3 is not one that finally annihilates the earth, sending it into the big cosmic scrap heap or

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 whatever, but that purifies it and refines it. The second theme is the glory that's anticipated.

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 When Paul speaks of glory, it's the glory that will be revealed in us. That is in God's children,

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 verse 18. That's why it's specifically the glory, verse 21, of whom? Of the children of God. It's the

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 glory of God's children. So it's not a glory that the earth will experience, enjoy on its own,

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 in isolation. It will be the glory that will be manifest when God's children are revealed.

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 It's a glory we can't yet fathom, although I think we get a glimpse of it when we think of the splendor

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 of a bride as she comes and makes her way up the aisle to meet her groom who's there waiting for her

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 and delighting in her. We get a glimpse of this. What a wonderful thought that nature has purpose

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 and direction. We often recall how the heavens declare God's glory, and here, through the special

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 revelation given to Paul, we get to consider how creation declares. It speaks of the purpose that God,

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 of God's purpose, the purpose that God implanted in it as it waits. And I think we can even say this,

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 in its waiting, creation is serving as a kind of missionary.

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 What is creation's end or purpose in a word? Well, to be a vessel that's filled full with God's

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 presence and a fit place for God's children to dwell forever. There we have the true unity

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 of heaven and earth that God has in store. Oh, that takes us to the second question,

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 and it's right there in verse 23. What are we, God's children, waiting for?

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 Verse 23, not only so, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit,

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 grown inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. Underline

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 that mentally, redemption of our bodies. In the progressive Christian vision, there's no distinction

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 between the children of Adam and the children of the second Adam. That is, everyone without exception

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 has been adopted as God's child. It's just that some don't realize it yet. By the same token,

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 everyone without exception is already participating in the resurrection since that too has already

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 taken place. That's why Richard Rohr can say this, resurrection is just incarnation taken to its

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 logical conclusion. He explains, if God inhabits matter, then we can naturally believe in the

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 resurrection of the body. Resurrection is just happening all around us, he says.

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 But not so in Romans 8.23, Paul says we wait eagerly for the redemption of our bodies.

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 At death, the original unity that God blessed us with in the garden necessarily disintegrates,

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 as our spirit is severed from the body, that original unity. But what we wait for is not

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 ultimate release from bodily existence, but a reintegration. The resurrection of our earthly

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 bodies on the day when Jesus appears in glory. Together with this, Paul says, is adoption to

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 sonship. Now by the spirit and through faith in Jesus, we're already adopted. So what does Paul mean

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 here? Well, he means the fullness of our adoption. Just as creation is waiting for God's children to be,

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 if you like, brought out and put on display, so too we wait for the great day when Jesus comes to do

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 just that, to publicly show who are his children and to reign with them forever. Let's bring in the

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 missionary theme here. We have missionaries with us this morning. We'll be saying a word in a few

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 moments. If creation has a missionary role or function as it waits, so too we are called to

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 evangelize others by speaking of the promised adoption in Christ for all those who put their trust in

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 Jesus. There's a third theme in our passage, and it has to do with the way we wait.

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 And it's in verses, I'll read verse 23 again and then conclude with the remaining two verses,

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 verses 24 and 25. I'll just shift the emphasis slightly to make my point. Not only so, but we

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 ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, grown inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to

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 sonship, the redemption of our bodies. And then verse 24, for in this hope we were saved,

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 but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have?

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 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it, you see the word there? Patiently.

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 We see that to the fact that we wait, Paul adds the how of waiting. And here I want to just

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 emphasize two things. First is our waiting that is with eager inward groanings. What are those?

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 Well, Paul links them to the first fruits of the Spirit.

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 This means that they are inward longings that we don't produce ourselves. They're the gift. They're a

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 gift that comes through our union with Christ Jesus. Since we're saved in the hope of redemption of

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 our bodies, verse 24, it's clear that the longings produce in us an assurance that what God has in

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 store for his children is there. To the eager, eager waiting, we add the second patient waiting,

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 verse 25. Paul implies that the hope is patient by definition. By definition. He says, if we hope

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 for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently, verse 25. So while in the day-to-day,

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 you and I can kind of wait patiently and sometimes not so patiently when we have to stand in line or

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 whatever it is, baptized hope is always patient and eager because it's sure of God's promise and

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 sure that God's promise is good and worth waiting for. For the progressive Christian, waiting is

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 minimized, if not abolished, because he's persuaded that he hasn't really left the Garden of Eden.

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 You get a sense of this when you, well, you might come close to Rec Beach there in Vancouver or

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 you go to some lovely spring in Vermont where, well, folks think they're still in the Garden of Eden

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 because the clothing is entirely optional.

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 I hear a chuckle. Maybe somebody's wandered down into those parts. By contrast,

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 through union with Christ, we look forward to a city. Yes, it's a city that has a tree in it and

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 a river flowing out of it. So it's like a city with a garden, but it's a city, right? It's a city with

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 foundations, our theme that we've been considering. It's a city designed and built by God himself.

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 And it's there. And that's the glorious truth. To make things just a bit more personal, because so

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 much of this is abstract, isn't it? Although I hope you can see the practical working out of how we're

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 considering the biblical worldview here. But to make things more personal, maybe this is a good moment

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 to ask ourselves, how would I describe my waiting? Is it an eager waiting so that I can say that I'm

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 longing for Jesus' appearing, that I pray, come, Lord Jesus? Is it a patient waiting so that I find

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 myself trusting that God is actually working out his purposes in and through human history,

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 bringing things into his perfect will, in spite of all the upheaval, in spite of all of what's in the

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 news, in spite of suffering and ways in which we begin to doubt that God's purposes are being worked

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 out? And yet, he strengthens us by his Spirit. And in what practical ways can we wait for Jesus'

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 return? Well, I really can't think of a better answer than to do something that we all need to grow

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 into together more and more, into really digging into Scripture and into letting Scripture get into

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 us so that it can do its work of sanctifying us and setting us apart for the work that God has for us.

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 So let me just conclude with a few thoughts. I hope that through these four talks, responding to the

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 core values of progressive Christianity, that I haven't been trying to hurl rotten tomatoes. I've been

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 trying to understand the shape and the hopes that progressive Christian friends have so that we can

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 speak of a greater hope that we're called to through the gospel. I hope it's been clear that progressive

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 Christianity, while picking up certain Christian themes and here and there sounding very, very gospel-centered

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 even sometimes, isn't really Christian in its foundations at all. I know that's not going to

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 please a lot of people, but I think that's what needs to be said. It's coming from a different

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 universe of meaning, if you like. Think of the way John Denver's remains were laid to rest.

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 We're told that his ashes were just scattered throughout the Colorado Rocky Mountains.

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 Now the God who formed us can surely reform our scattered ashes, most certainly, but symbolically,

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 symbolically, I think the scattering of ashes bears witness to a lie. It speaks of a final

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 disintegration of created things. It speaks of a final loss of individuality as when a drop of water

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 goes back to the ocean. I think scripture calls us to a far greater hope, a reverence for material

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 things. Yes, not so as to worship matter, but to handle material things as good stewards, as were commanded

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 in Genesis. This, of course, is the business of creation care, which is a way to bear witness

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 to the goodness of God's creation, but also as a form of hospitality as we think of caring for the

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 world around us for the sake of those we want to show hospitality to in the next generations to come.

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 But there's no panic. There's no panic in this because we don't panic about this matter because it's in

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 God's hands in the same way that you and I, we don't fret about our own death if we're in Christ.

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 If we're truly united to Jesus, then we already are by grace participants in his death, which is the

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 same as saying that we carry the down payment, if you like, well, that's the scriptural word,

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 of our resurrection. So, and I'll end with this. May the way in which we wait for the day of the Lord

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 serve as a living question mark for our progressive Christian friends. And may God give us joy

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 in waiting for him and waiting for the day, anticipating the city that has foundations,

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 whose architect and builder is God. Do I hear an amen? Amen.