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 To a lot of people in our culture, Christianity doesn't make any sense.

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 Buddhism makes sense, not necessarily because of believing anything about Buddha,

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 but because things like yoga and meditation help people make it through the week.

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 And in our culture, lots of things of native spirituality make sense,

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 because a lot of people in our culture have a sense that on one hand,

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 while what most grips us is what we can eat, what we can drink, what we can wear,

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 what we can earn, what we can live in, what we can drive,

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 that at the same time there's a sense of mystery in life,

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 and often things like native spirituality can sort of deeply touch us.

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 But for many people in our culture, Christianity doesn't make any sense.

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 How could one person's death save me?

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 We can sort of understand, especially as we gather here today,

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 today with Jim Farherty just having died this week.

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 Many people, I mean I had never met the man, but it was a shock to hear of his death.

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 And we can understand maybe how a death can shock us or touch us,

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 even a death of someone who happened long before we were born.

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 But for many people in our culture, the idea that one man's death,

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 especially a man's death so long ago, could have any particular impact on me,

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 or any particular relevance for me, or that it could save me,

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 just doesn't really make any sense whatsoever.

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 And even this idea which Christians would talk about that Jesus is sinless,

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 often becomes a great puzzle to people in our culture,

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 and often if we're honest, to people in the pews,

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 we don't have pews, in seats in churches.

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 Because I was just reading the story of a Muslim man who converted to Christianity.

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 He spoke very powerfully about the great conundrum

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 that the sinlessness of Jesus causes many people.

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 If Jesus was sinless and perfect, why didn't God hear his prayers?

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 Why did God allow Jesus to die if Jesus was sinless?

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 But for many people in our culture, the idea of Jesus being sinless

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 is something that keeps Jesus far from us at arm's length,

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 rather than making Jesus approachable,

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 and someone that we can have as a friend, or confide in, or talk to.

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 The sinlessness of Jesus pushes him far, far away,

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 so that there are many people in our country,

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 and many people maybe even in churches,

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 that the fundamental story of Jesus,

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 the fundamental facts of Jesus are very, very, very deeply puzzling.

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 And often we don't even like to say that out loud,

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 because it just doesn't seem like the right thing to say out loud when you're in church.

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 And maybe your friends won't say it to you face to face,

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 because they don't want to offend you,

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 because they understand that you're a Christian.

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 But for many people in our culture,

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 these central ideas are very, very puzzling.

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 This morning, we're going to look right at these questions.

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 And usually I ask you to get out your Bibles,

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 and that you can still get out your Bible.

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 But really what we're going to do is just look at one very, very famous verse in the Bible.

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 And we're just going to look at it,

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 because this very famous verse touches on these questions,

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 and many other questions,

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 which you and many people in our culture have about the Christian faith.

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 And Andrew, if you could put it up, that would be great.

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 And what I've done is provided an essentially literal translation of the verse.

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 So some of you might have memorized it,

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 maybe you've memorized it in the King James Version,

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 or memorized it in the NIV or the ESV.

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 And I thought what I would just do is I'd sort of mess with all your heads

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 and provide an essentially literal translation,

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 because it's actually very beautiful.

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 In the original translation, it begins and ends with Jesus.

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 And so there's sort of a very specific form in it.

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 And so what we're going to do is we're going to look at this,

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 because it touches on many of these questions and others.

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 So it would be a great help to me if you all would just read this with me at this time.

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 The one who knew not sin, for us God made sin,

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 that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

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 Let's just say it again.

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 The one who knew not sin, for us God made sin,

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 that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

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 Now you see, right off the bat, the text begins with something which Muslims find profoundly confusing.

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 In fact, actually they will use these types of things,

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 a verse like this to show that Jesus could not possibly have died on the cross.

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 That if in fact they have maybe an easy time believing that Jesus could be such an exalted person,

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 they just have a very hard time believing that anybody who's so exalted could possibly die on the cross.

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 And as I said for others, the idea that Jesus is the one who knew not sin is deeply confusing.

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 It just seems to make Jesus very, very differently, very, very distant.

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 The one who knew not sin.

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 Well, here's what I want to suggest.

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 Andrew, if you could put up the first point, and then I'll try to explain it.

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 Believe it or not, the sinlessness of Jesus means that no one can identify with you and me as deeply as he can.

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 I learned this, actually, as I was thinking about arguments in favor of abortion.

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 I was listening to arguments in favor of abortion, and it one day struck me.

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 The sinlessness of Jesus means that no one can identify with you and me as deeply as he can.

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 Now, you see, part of the problem with this text for Christians is that we think of it a little bit like math.

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 Some people are really, really, really, really, really good at math.

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 And maybe you're a little bit different, but I've often found that people who are really, really, really, really, really, really good at math

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 aren't often very helpful to people.

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 They can't help people who are very bad at math.

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 Because for people who are very, very good at math, they just look, it's obvious.

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 Like, you just look at it, it's obvious.

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 How can you not get it?

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 And to the person who doesn't get math, they just go, how can you get that?

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 Nothing's obvious about that.

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 And sometimes for a person who's really good at math and another person who can't do math,

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 the gap is so big they can't even talk to each other.

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 And so for many people, when we think of Jesus' sinlessness, we just think, well, gosh, how on earth can you relate to me?

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 Like, he just sort of, I mean, it's almost as if Jesus is just, like, made out of, I don't know, you know, that,

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 what's that made-up metal that Wolverine has that's, you know, the hardest thing?

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 Yeah, there you go.

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 I like superheroes, but I'm not a superhero geek, okay?

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 Just so you're clear.

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 Can't often remember all this stuff.

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 So, you know, it's as if Jesus is just, it doesn't even touch him.

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 He's just so completely and utterly immune from sin.

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 But this text is very, very, very, very, very, very, very powerful.

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 Remember that the verse said, the one who knew not sin, for us God made sin,

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 that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

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 And in the original language, when it says knew not, it's really implying,

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 and it's a bit of a tricky thing because it's implying for people who hear it

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 that they sort of have an understanding of how the Bible talks about knowledge.

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 It's, in fact, the very, very same word.

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 When I talk about, I'll just be, I have to use this,

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 but when I talk about sex in church or in other settings with Christians,

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 and I want to talk about sexual intercourse,

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 I use the biblical phrase that you're not to know a man or a woman outside of marriage.

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 And that's the way the Bible talks about it.

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 And the Bible talks about a certain type of knowing that's, in a sense,

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 a deeply personal knowing.

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 It's a knowing that's connected to, in a sense,

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 a coming together of the truth, like an entering into.

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 It's something comprehensive.

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 It's something total.

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 It's something that has an idea almost of covenant or communion

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 or something unitive that brings something together.

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 And so that is the way the Bible describes sexual intercourse, as knowing one.

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 And that's that same idea up in the Bible verse.

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 Sorry, I keep pointing to it.

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 It's my point, not the Bible verse.

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 Could you put the point back up, the Bible text back up?

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 So I keep, there you go.

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 But the one who knew not sin, it's like this.

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 I know that there's, I don't know how many women there are here today.

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 I don't know, maybe there's 70 women here.

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 I know there's 70 women here.

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 But I only know Louise.

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 And that's the same type of sense here that is being used of Jesus.

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 It's not saying that he doesn't know that there's sin in the world.

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 It's not saying he doesn't know that sin and evil exists.

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 It's saying that he knows all about sin, but he never knew sin,

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 in a sense, in the way that I know Louise and Louise knows me.

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 That he never committed sin and had that act in the sense of unity with sin.

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 That's far from him.

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 That's what his sinlessness means.

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 Not that he was never tempted.

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 He was.

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 Now, some of you might be saying, George, how on earth does abortion,

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 the argument for abortion, help you understand this text?

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 Well, what's one of the main arguments for abortion?

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 One of the main arguments for abortion is that the fetus can't possibly be human.

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 Why can't the fetus possibly be human?

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 Well, the fetus can't possibly be human.

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 The fetus has no inner life.

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 The fetus doesn't make choices.

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 The fetus doesn't have any type of that struggle which we connect so powerfully with being human.

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 It's the same type of argument that goes on for euthanasia,

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 for people maybe who enter into Alzheimer's.

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 Is it their ability to make moral choices?

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 I mean, the whole realm of choices in inner life, it's very, very hard.

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 It's a moral, there's moral things.

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 Should I think this?

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 What should I think?

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 Should I plan for this?

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 What should I not plan for?

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 What should I move towards?

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 What should I avoid?

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 It all ultimately has a powerful moral component to it.

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 And so if we know that Jesus actually understood moral choice and he experienced moral choice and he experienced the chance of options,

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 then we start to understand that, in fact, this idea, the one who knew not sin,

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 if we start to understand that, in fact, the sinlessness of Jesus means that no one can identify with you and me as deeply as he can,

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 it becomes like this.

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 Let's say I'm going out on a car drive with you to Toronto and you and I both know somebody in common and I have a piece of really juicy gossip on someone that we both know and neither of us like this person.

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 And I know some gossip about them.

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 And if I tell you this gossip, and if I tell you this gossip in the right way, it'll make this person look really, really bad.

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 And both of us will have a good time with each other, relishing how much we dislike them.

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 Now, how long could you go in that car ride without telling the gossip?

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 Some of you would say, George, like, the second I put on the seatbelt, it's going to come right out.

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 And some of you might say, well, you know, maybe for some of us it's five seconds, five minutes, 15 minutes, three hours.

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 Maybe gossip's not your thing.

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 It would be an easy thing.

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 You can pick your own sin.

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 But only the person who never gives in.

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 So the person who goes an hour before they give in to the gossip, they have a moral life, an internal interior life that understands the full strength of the temptation.

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 And they're able to see how the temptation comes at them this way.

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 And then it comes at them this way.

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 And then it comes at them this way.

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 And then it sort of lies dormant.

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 And then it jumps out at them all again.

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 And they know that inner life, that inner experience for a full hour.

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 But unless you have the ability to resist that temptation until the temptation no longer tempts you at all.

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 And maybe that's going to be four hours.

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 Maybe it's going to be four years.

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 Maybe it's going to be 40 years.

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 I don't know how long it is.

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 But until you actually, it's only the person who understands the full power of the temptation and all of the different permutations and combinations it takes and never succumbs to it that really understands it.

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 They live a far more deeply human experience than those of us who just give in to the temptation really quickly.

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 In fact, actually, don't we usually think that people who give in to temptation instantly, what do we think they are?

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 Shallow.

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 Isn't that what we think they are?

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 Shallow.

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 What is it that we feel bad about ourselves if we give in to the temptation just like that?

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 We worry that we're shallow.

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 So in fact, this text, the one who knew not sin, actually opens up to us that rather than meaning that Jesus cannot identify with us,

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 there is no one who can identify with you more than Jesus.

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 That's why there's been such great hymns as what a friend we have in Jesus, all our sins and griefs to bear.

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 What a privilege to carry everything to him in prayer.

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 The sinlessness of Jesus means that no one can identify with you and me as deeply as he can.

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 Let's say this together.

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 Nope.

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 Oh, yeah.

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 Sorry.

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 There's the point.

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 Go back to the scripture.

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 Let's say this together.

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 The one who knew not sin, for us God made sin, that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

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 But some of you might say, George, okay, one man.

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 How can what happens to one man have any real bearing upon me?

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 Once again, when I was reading this book on the Muslim who became a Christian,

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 that was a very, very, very deep problem for him.

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 How can it be that what happens to one man could possibly matter to him in terms of any type of eternal consequences?

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 It comes up in this verse.

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 The one who knew not sin, for us, for us God made.

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 For us God.

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 I mean, it's essentially literal translation, but I'm capturing that for some reason in the text,

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 there's this sense that God makes Jesus a particular person with a particular status,

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 so that what he does can be done for us.

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 If you put up the second point, Michael or Rebecca, that would be great.

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 Jesus is the only person who could possibly represent you and me and every person.

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 That's what this text is teaching.

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 That Jesus is the only person who could possibly represent you and me and every person.

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 When the Bible says, the one who knew not sin, for us God made sin,

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 that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

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 And that's what it's declaring.

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 It's declaring something which is all the way through the Bible,

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 that Jesus is the only person who could possibly represent you and me and every person.

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 Unless, again, we might wonder how on earth this could possibly be.

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 Like, on one level, we have a bit of an understanding of representation,

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 that how one person represents us makes a difference.

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 I think it's Mickey...

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 Who was it?

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 The famous actor who just died this week.

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 I was meant to look...

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 Mickey Rooney.

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 He just died this week, 93.

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 Ten decades in show business.

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 And in one article, I said that his net worth upon his death was $18,000.

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 How on earth could one be in Hollywood for ten decades and die with a net worth of 18 grand?

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 It's because one of his children who represented him ruined him financially.

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 If the newspaper accounts are correct.

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 Which we're just assuming for a moment they are.

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 Maybe they're not.

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 Some of us have been in the press at times and papers don't always get it right.

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 Okay?

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 So...

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 But, you know, on one level we have this sense that, you know, what happens, you know,

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 for a mother or a father in a family that they represent in a sense the family and they have

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 a representative function and leadership function in a family, then it makes a difference.

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 And we can understand how a head of state represents a country.

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 The president or the head of state of China or the head of state of India in a sense represents

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 over a billion people.

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 And I'm not trying...

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 I'm not denigrating the head of state of China or the head of state of India at all by saying

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 on one level they can represent a billion people.

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 But on the other hand, I mean, I don't know how many people in China or India would be happy

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 if they died or wouldn't even know if they died or...

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 Like, they're just sort of just mere human beings.

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 But we understand that it is possible in a very, very powerful way for one person to have

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 this representative power over many.

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 You've heard this illustration before, but it's a very, very good illustration.

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 If terrorists were to take over Wembley Stadium when it was completely and utterly full and

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 threatened to blow up a bomb killing everybody if their grants and demands weren't met, if

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 I phoned them up and said, if you let all 100 and whatever it is, 15,000 people go free,

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 I'll give you my life to let the 115,000 go free, they would laugh at me.

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 But if the Queen of England called up the terrorists and said, if I come into the stadium and sit on the bomb,

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 will you let the 115,000 go free?

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 The terrorists would believe that they had gotten the greatest deal in the world.

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 Because not only would they now think that they have...

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 They've traded 115,000 for the Queen of England, and they would understand that all of England

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 is now held captive.

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 And given the number of people who are English and people of English heritage throughout the whole world,

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 it might very well be that a billion people would be gripped by this offer

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 and feel that they themselves were on that bomb.

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 The Queen of England.

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 What this Bible is saying is that God makes Jesus that one who can represent us.

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 I mean, how great can that not possibly be?

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 I mean, on one level, the Queen of England is...

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 I mean, you know, if you're being very, very cynical, I don't mean to offend the monarchists here,

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 but you might just say, well, you know, she had a daddy and a daddy and a daddy and a daddy,

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 and they just were a whole pile of barons, and they won a sort of a war,

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 and it goes back to others, and it's just a whole pile of drunk guys who fought.

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 I'm not offending the monarchists, okay?

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 But it just happens to end up being Queen Elizabeth, who most people like because she's really sweet,

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 even people who aren't monarchists.

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 Monarchists.

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 You know, and...

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 But how...

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 And, you know, for the President of the United States, I mean, he just won an election,

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 and right now his approval rating is very low, but it would still be true of him.

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 But how much greater would it be?

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 Doesn't it make sense that it could be possible that God would identify one person to represent all humanity?

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 If we can understand that the Queen of England could, in a sense, represent all of England by her offer,

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 can't we see that God could do that with this person, Jesus?

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 And if he does it with Jesus, what possibly better person could it be than one,

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 as we saw earlier when it says,

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 God, the one who knew not sin for us, God made sin,

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 that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

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 Who could possibly better represent us than one that God chooses,

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 and one who can identify with us?

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 Because, to be honest, how much can the Queen of England identify with many people in England?

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 I'm not trying to...

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 Paula, I don't want to offend monarchists, I really don't.

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 But you understand, who better to represent us than one that God chooses,

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 and one who knows human experience so deeply,

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 so that every human being, he can identify with them?

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 That's why I say that Jesus is the only person who could possibly represent you and me and every person.

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 Let's say the verse together again.

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 The one who knew not sin, for us God made sin,

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 that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

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 Some of you might say,

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 okay, George,

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 so maybe I understand that Jesus, his sinlessness,

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 actually isn't a matter of

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 keeping him distant from me,

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 and sort of I can understand how this idea of representation,

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 that maybe one man, what happens to him,

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 could have an implication for me,

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 that maybe he could represent me,

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 and not just that he could represent every person.

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 But how is it possible, and how is it fair,

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 that God would just pick this one guy,

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 and this one guy has to die for me?

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 Like, how is that possibly fair?

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 If you look at the verse again,

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 the one who knew not sin,

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 for us,

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 what does it say?

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 God made sin.

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 That's this idea of substitution.

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 In fact, if you put up the point here,

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 we'll see this.

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 As he hung upon the cross,

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 bleeding and dying,

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 Jesus was the substitute.

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 That's what this verse is teaching,

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 that as he hung upon the cross,

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 bleeding and dying,

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 Jesus was the substitute.

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 Those of you who come to this church

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 know that I like movies and stuff like that,

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 and my wife and I have been watching a television show

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 from one of the cable channels.

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 I think it's A&E,

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 and it's Longmire,

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 and it's about a sheriff in modern-day Wyoming.

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 And in,

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 spoiler alert,

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 okay,

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 spoiler alert if you're watching it.

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 I won't tell you the episode,

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 but there's a bit of a spoiler alert,

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 and if you're,

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 so hopefully I haven't,

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 I don't ruin a particular episode for you.

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 But it was very,

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 very interesting.

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 It's the most popular show

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 on this particular cable channel,

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 and this,

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 one of the episodes

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 has this very,

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 very powerful episode

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 where

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 a woman gets hit by a driver

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 and left for dead.

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 It's a hit and run.

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 And it's very obvious,

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 eventually,

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 that the,

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 that this young man

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 is the one behind the wheel.

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 But then,

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 in fact,

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 in fact,

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 actually,

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 it's the sheriff,

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 Longmire's daughter,

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 who's hit.

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 And she's close to death.

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 So the young man

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 is facing a whole host

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 of different charges.

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 In fact,

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 there's a powerful scene

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 where Longmire

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 throws the young man in jail.

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 He lifts off

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 all the charges against him,

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 and then as he's leaving,

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 he says to his deputies,

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 any other charge you can think of,

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 put it against him.

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 Then,

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 sort of very soon

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 on in the show,

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 the father of the young man

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 comes,

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 and his face

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 is all banged up

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 and beat up.

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 And the father's a drunk,

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 and he says

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 that he's behind the wheel,

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 that he was the one

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 behind the wheel,

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 that his son was innocent,

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 that he had forced

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 his son to drive.

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 It's a very powerful

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 interchange

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 between the sheriff

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 and this father.

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 and at the end of it,

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 the sheriff himself

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 is struggling

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 with his own guilt

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 about his relationship

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 with his daughter

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 and how he had left her alone

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 and not cared for her

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 like he should have.

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 And he brings the father in

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 of the young guy,

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 and he puts him in jail.

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 And he says to his deputies

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 who object

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 to let the young man

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 go free

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 because he said

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 the dad

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 was the one

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 behind the wheel.

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 Because this dad

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 had begged.

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 He said,

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 I've ruined my life.

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 I've ruined my life.

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 Let me go to jail

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 for my son.

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 And Longmire does it.

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 The man

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 goes to jail,

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 and the son

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 goes free.

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 And later on

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 in the episode,

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 and this is where,

00:26:06.940 --> 00:26:07.139
 you know,

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 part of our culture,

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 there's this sense

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 that on one hand

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 we understand

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 that we're gripped

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 by what we can eat,

00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:14.599
 what we can drink,

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 what we can buy,

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 what we can ride,

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 what we can wear,

00:26:17.539 --> 00:26:18.299
 what we can live in,

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 what we can earn,

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 and we're gripped

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 by all that.

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 But at the same time,

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 there's a very powerful

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 part of our culture

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 that understands

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 there's something mystical

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 and that there's

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 something more.

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 And in this particular episode,

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 the sheriff ends up

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 going through

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 an Indian ritual

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 which causes him

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 great pain

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 in the hope

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 that his suffering

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 will allow

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 the great goddess

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 to heal his daughter.

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 And that's where

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 the spoiler alerts

00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:43.779
 will end.

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 But it's a very,

00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:47.819
 very fascinating idea

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 that this,

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 the most popular series

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 on this particular

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 cable channel

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 that deeply embedded

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 in it

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 is this sense

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 of the appropriateness

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 of substitution.

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 And when the Bible

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 here says

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 that the one

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 who knew not sin

00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:06.339
 for us,

00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:07.579
 God made sin,

00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:09.180
 that we might become

00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:09.720
 the righteousness

00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:11.180
 of God in him,

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 the Bible is teaching

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 that not only

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 if Jesus actually

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 can identify with us

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 very, very deeply,

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 more deeply

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 than any other human being,

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 even the person

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 with the closest marriage,

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 even the person

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 with the closest friend,

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 even the person

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 that had the greatest mom

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 in the world,

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 Jesus can identify

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 with you far more

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 closely and deeply

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 than any other person.

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 And that Jesus

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 is the one

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 who can truly

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 and utterly

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 properly represent us.

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 That there's both

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 the fact that God

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 would set up a person

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 that could represent

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 human beings

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 and this powerful

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 act of identification

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 that there's no one

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 better qualified

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 to represent us

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 than Jesus is.

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 That Jesus is the one

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 who acts.

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 When he's dying

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 upon the cross,

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 he's dying

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 as an act

00:27:53.579 --> 00:27:55.000
 of substitution.

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 You see,

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 Jesus doesn't do this

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 because he's forced

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 to by God.

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 But just as in the

00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:08.259
 illustration that I gave

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 that this man

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 who was a drunk

00:28:09.740 --> 00:28:10.699
 and yet still loved

00:28:10.699 --> 00:28:12.019
 his son out of love

00:28:12.019 --> 00:28:12.659
 would willingly

00:28:12.659 --> 00:28:14.159
 pay the penalty

00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:15.019
 of a crime,

00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:15.899
 of a whole list

00:28:15.899 --> 00:28:17.240
 of crimes for his son

00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:18.059
 out of love

00:28:18.059 --> 00:28:18.679
 for his son

00:28:18.679 --> 00:28:20.480
 and the sheriff

00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:21.819
 would go through

00:28:21.819 --> 00:28:23.699
 this torturous

00:28:23.699 --> 00:28:25.199
 experience out of love

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:25.860
 for his daughter.

00:28:27.340 --> 00:28:28.740
 We're so used to people

00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:29.799
 with political power

00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:30.600
 and prestige

00:28:30.600 --> 00:28:31.819
 and representative power

00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:33.000
 to not care about

00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:33.720
 the little guy

00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:34.580
 and the little gal.

00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:36.880
 It's mind-boggling

00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:37.720
 for us to think

00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:38.519
 that one who could

00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:39.460
 represent us

00:28:39.460 --> 00:28:40.440
 and could identify

00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:40.920
 with us

00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.220
 would also love us

00:28:42.220 --> 00:28:43.420
 and would love us

00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:44.100
 so deeply

00:28:44.100 --> 00:28:45.840
 and would love us

00:28:45.840 --> 00:28:46.400
 so deeply

00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.100
 that he would

00:28:47.100 --> 00:28:48.600
 willingly take our place.

00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:50.279
 In our culture,

00:28:50.360 --> 00:28:50.759
 it's very,

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:51.420
 very common.

00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:51.820
 And if you were

00:28:51.820 --> 00:28:52.620
 to go to the local

00:28:52.620 --> 00:28:53.500
 coffee shops

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:54.480
 or the local bars

00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:55.380
 or ask around

00:28:55.380 --> 00:28:56.320
 your work,

00:28:56.460 --> 00:28:57.519
 it's very common

00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:58.140
 now for us

00:28:58.140 --> 00:28:58.759
 in our culture

00:28:58.759 --> 00:28:59.700
 to have some type

00:28:59.700 --> 00:29:00.820
 of idea of karma.

00:29:01.180 --> 00:29:01.980
 But when we think

00:29:01.980 --> 00:29:02.680
 about karma,

00:29:02.779 --> 00:29:03.460
 we think about it

00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:04.880
 in a very intermittent way.

00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:05.960
 We think about it

00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:06.500
 more in,

00:29:06.860 --> 00:29:07.080
 well,

00:29:07.360 --> 00:29:08.300
 like this one

00:29:08.300 --> 00:29:09.180
 particular time

00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:10.060
 I was driving

00:29:10.060 --> 00:29:11.019
 out in the country

00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:12.240
 and I was behind

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:12.720
 a very,

00:29:12.820 --> 00:29:13.060
 very,

00:29:13.060 --> 00:29:13.420
 very,

00:29:13.420 --> 00:29:14.960
 very frustrating driver.

00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:15.900
 The speed limit

00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:16.480
 was 80

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:17.560
 and they were always

00:29:17.560 --> 00:29:18.720
 driving 70.

00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:19.860
 But as soon as

00:29:19.860 --> 00:29:20.559
 they came to

00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:21.759
 a flat piece

00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:22.440
 of road

00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:23.380
 where you could

00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:23.900
 pass

00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:24.279
 and there were

00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:25.100
 passing lanes,

00:29:25.339 --> 00:29:26.200
 they sped up

00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:27.259
 to 115

00:29:27.259 --> 00:29:28.360
 and I couldn't

00:29:28.360 --> 00:29:29.160
 pass them.

00:29:29.779 --> 00:29:30.759
 That was so

00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:32.140
 frustrating for me.

00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:33.680
 And then we come

00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:34.299
 into this little

00:29:34.299 --> 00:29:35.420
 tiny hole-in-the-wall

00:29:35.420 --> 00:29:35.940
 community

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:37.200
 and the speed limit

00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:37.960
 went from 80

00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:38.440
 to 40

00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:39.160
 and they kept

00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:40.200
 going 70

00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.200
 and a cop

00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:42.079
 pulled them over

00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:43.660
 and gave them

00:29:43.660 --> 00:29:44.339
 a ticket.

00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:49.419
 I'll confess

00:29:49.419 --> 00:29:50.179
 later on

00:29:50.179 --> 00:29:51.459
 a sin yet again

00:29:51.459 --> 00:29:52.019
 that that made

00:29:52.019 --> 00:29:52.619
 me happy.

00:29:56.099 --> 00:29:57.240
 There was a sense

00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:58.220
 of divine justice

00:29:58.220 --> 00:29:58.919
 in that

00:29:58.919 --> 00:30:01.699
 as I

00:30:01.699 --> 00:30:02.779
 tootled past

00:30:02.779 --> 00:30:03.019
 them

00:30:03.019 --> 00:30:04.000
 going 50.

00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:05.240
 Afterwards,

00:30:05.419 --> 00:30:05.879
 I would be able

00:30:05.879 --> 00:30:06.240
 to go

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.259
 far faster.

00:30:07.959 --> 00:30:08.639
 I had lived

00:30:08.639 --> 00:30:09.159
 in the country

00:30:09.159 --> 00:30:09.539
 for a while.

00:30:09.699 --> 00:30:10.039
 I knew that

00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.019
 rural police

00:30:11.019 --> 00:30:12.159
 often hide

00:30:12.159 --> 00:30:13.159
 in such spots

00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:14.180
 to give people

00:30:14.180 --> 00:30:14.660
 tickets.

00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:16.180
 So, you know,

00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:16.480
 we have,

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:17.460
 but what if,

00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:19.300
 what if this idea

00:30:19.300 --> 00:30:19.820
 that we usually

00:30:19.820 --> 00:30:20.320
 just throw out

00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:21.380
 this idea of karma

00:30:21.380 --> 00:30:22.500
 or what goes around

00:30:22.500 --> 00:30:23.019
 comes around

00:30:23.019 --> 00:30:23.820
 or something like that

00:30:23.820 --> 00:30:25.040
 in a particular time

00:30:25.040 --> 00:30:25.920
 when we've been wrong,

00:30:26.140 --> 00:30:27.040
 but what if something

00:30:27.040 --> 00:30:28.259
 like that is true?

00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:29.400
 What if something

00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:30.620
 like that is possibly

00:30:30.620 --> 00:30:31.019
 true?

00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:32.120
 And what if it's not

00:30:32.120 --> 00:30:32.740
 just something

00:30:32.740 --> 00:30:33.600
 that is just

00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:34.300
 intermittent

00:30:34.300 --> 00:30:35.720
 and then all the

00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:36.180
 other times

00:30:36.180 --> 00:30:36.740
 we can sort of

00:30:36.740 --> 00:30:37.400
 forget about it

00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.700
 and it only happens

00:30:39.700 --> 00:30:40.340
 sort of when there's

00:30:40.340 --> 00:30:41.480
 these sort of

00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:41.920
 big things,

00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.039
 but what if

00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:43.700
 there's something

00:30:43.700 --> 00:30:44.279
 like that

00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:44.960
 that's true?

00:30:45.460 --> 00:30:45.900
 And what if

00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:47.060
 something like that

00:30:47.060 --> 00:30:47.680
 that's true

00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:49.380
 and it goes on

00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:49.980
 with what we think

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:50.680
 in our head

00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:51.640
 and what we feel

00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:52.360
 in our heart

00:30:52.360 --> 00:30:53.000
 and what we do

00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:53.740
 with our bodies

00:30:53.740 --> 00:30:54.259
 and what we do

00:30:54.259 --> 00:30:55.180
 when nobody's looking

00:30:55.180 --> 00:30:56.740
 and how we think

00:30:56.740 --> 00:30:57.220
 about people

00:30:57.220 --> 00:30:57.860
 all the time

00:30:57.860 --> 00:30:58.400
 and our moral

00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.019
 evaluations

00:30:59.019 --> 00:30:59.620
 and what if

00:30:59.620 --> 00:31:00.039
 in a sense

00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:00.779
 there's something

00:31:00.779 --> 00:31:01.340
 like karma

00:31:01.340 --> 00:31:02.140
 which is true

00:31:02.140 --> 00:31:03.220
 in all of that

00:31:03.220 --> 00:31:05.100
 that will one day

00:31:05.100 --> 00:31:05.740
 come out

00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:06.380
 and there has to be

00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:06.920
 some type of

00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:08.019
 price that's paid

00:31:08.019 --> 00:31:09.580
 and on one level

00:31:09.580 --> 00:31:10.300
 we understand

00:31:10.300 --> 00:31:11.080
 that there's some

00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:12.259
 sense every person

00:31:12.259 --> 00:31:12.859
 who understands

00:31:12.859 --> 00:31:13.639
 something of what

00:31:13.639 --> 00:31:14.259
 we now in our

00:31:14.259 --> 00:31:15.519
 culture call karma

00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.379
 we understand

00:31:17.379 --> 00:31:18.159
 that there's this

00:31:18.159 --> 00:31:19.779
 sense of wrongdoing

00:31:19.779 --> 00:31:20.399
 and a price

00:31:20.399 --> 00:31:21.159
 to be paid

00:31:21.159 --> 00:31:22.519
 and Christians say

00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:23.799
 that sense

00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:24.759
 that you have

00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:26.399
 is a window

00:31:26.399 --> 00:31:27.779
 into what truly

00:31:27.779 --> 00:31:28.559
 is real

00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:33.599
 that your own

00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:34.379
 self-centeredness

00:31:34.379 --> 00:31:36.019
 my own self-centeredness

00:31:36.019 --> 00:31:36.639
 and pride

00:31:36.639 --> 00:31:37.599
 is blinding me

00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:38.259
 to and keeping

00:31:38.259 --> 00:31:39.359
 distant from me

00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:40.899
 but the Bible

00:31:40.899 --> 00:31:42.359
 is very very

00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:43.019
 clear eyed

00:31:43.019 --> 00:31:43.519
 and God

00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:44.639
 is very clear eyed

00:31:44.639 --> 00:31:46.679
 and so as he

00:31:46.679 --> 00:31:47.639
 hung upon the cross

00:31:47.639 --> 00:31:48.419
 bleeding and dying

00:31:48.419 --> 00:31:49.399
 Jesus was the

00:31:49.399 --> 00:31:49.879
 substitute

00:31:49.879 --> 00:31:52.039
 he is the one

00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:52.679
 who takes

00:31:52.679 --> 00:31:53.819
 into himself

00:31:53.819 --> 00:31:55.279
 takes our place

00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.939
 now some of you

00:31:57.939 --> 00:31:58.299
 might say

00:31:58.299 --> 00:31:58.819
 okay George

00:31:58.819 --> 00:31:59.500
 that's uh

00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:00.139
 okay let's put

00:32:00.139 --> 00:32:00.819
 the verse up again

00:32:00.819 --> 00:32:02.579
 say it together

00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:04.720
 the one

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:05.539
 who knew not

00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:05.980
 sin

00:32:05.980 --> 00:32:06.980
 for us

00:32:06.980 --> 00:32:07.839
 God made

00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:08.279
 sin

00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:09.319
 that we might

00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:09.819
 become

00:32:09.819 --> 00:32:10.599
 the righteousness

00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:11.359
 of God

00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:12.299
 in him

00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:13.319
 now some of you

00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:13.839
 might say

00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:14.779
 okay George

00:32:14.779 --> 00:32:15.379
 even if something

00:32:15.379 --> 00:32:16.000
 like that was to

00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:16.319
 happen

00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:16.759
 you know like

00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:17.199
 look at that

00:32:17.199 --> 00:32:18.079
 Longmire episode

00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:18.720
 okay so the

00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:19.259
 drunk dad

00:32:19.259 --> 00:32:19.839
 he takes the

00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:20.460
 place of the son

00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:21.000
 that's all very

00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:21.199
 good

00:32:21.199 --> 00:32:21.879
 the son goes

00:32:21.879 --> 00:32:22.240
 free

00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.159
 the son still

00:32:23.159 --> 00:32:23.699
 has a broken

00:32:23.699 --> 00:32:24.099
 arm

00:32:24.099 --> 00:32:24.879
 still has a

00:32:24.879 --> 00:32:25.679
 messed up life

00:32:25.679 --> 00:32:26.500
 all those

00:32:26.500 --> 00:32:27.539
 things go on

00:32:27.539 --> 00:32:27.779
 you know

00:32:27.779 --> 00:32:28.439
 Longmire and

00:32:28.439 --> 00:32:28.859
 his daughter

00:32:28.859 --> 00:32:29.480
 whatever happened

00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:30.039
 she still has

00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:30.399
 all the

00:32:30.399 --> 00:32:30.779
 you know she's

00:32:30.779 --> 00:32:31.359
 still unemployed

00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:31.899
 she has all

00:32:31.899 --> 00:32:32.359
 these things

00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:33.119
 that are messed

00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:33.659
 up so even

00:32:33.659 --> 00:32:34.319
 if Jesus does

00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:34.959
 something like

00:32:34.959 --> 00:32:35.819
 that for me

00:32:35.819 --> 00:32:36.879
 where does that

00:32:36.879 --> 00:32:37.699
 leave me

00:32:37.699 --> 00:32:39.919
 that verse again

00:32:39.919 --> 00:32:40.579
 the one who knew

00:32:40.579 --> 00:32:41.439
 not sin for us

00:32:41.439 --> 00:32:42.459
 God made sin

00:32:42.459 --> 00:32:44.199
 what that we

00:32:44.199 --> 00:32:45.059
 might become

00:32:45.059 --> 00:32:46.000
 the righteousness

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.859
 of God

00:32:46.859 --> 00:32:48.339
 in him

00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:49.579
 here's what the

00:32:49.579 --> 00:32:50.299
 Bible's teaching

00:32:50.299 --> 00:32:51.759
 as he hung upon

00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:52.259
 the cross

00:32:52.259 --> 00:32:53.219
 bleeding and dying

00:32:53.219 --> 00:32:54.759
 Jesus is not

00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:55.939
 just offering

00:32:55.939 --> 00:32:56.819
 to take our

00:32:56.819 --> 00:32:57.359
 place

00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:58.759
 he is offering

00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:00.039
 to trade places

00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:01.259
 with you and me

00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:03.180
 as he hung

00:33:03.180 --> 00:33:03.980
 upon the cross

00:33:03.980 --> 00:33:04.559
 bleeding and

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:04.900
 dying

00:33:04.900 --> 00:33:05.819
 Jesus is not

00:33:05.819 --> 00:33:06.519
 just offering

00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:07.359
 to take our

00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:07.879
 place

00:33:07.879 --> 00:33:09.200
 he is offering

00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.920
 to trade places

00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.259
 with you

00:33:12.259 --> 00:33:13.839
 and me

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.599
 imagine that

00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:17.119
 they came up

00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:17.559
 with a cure

00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:18.319
 for cancer

00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:19.720
 but the problem

00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:20.220
 with the cure

00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:20.879
 for cancer

00:33:20.879 --> 00:33:22.660
 is that it

00:33:22.660 --> 00:33:23.119
 had to be

00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:24.140
 a family member

00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:25.299
 and they could

00:33:25.299 --> 00:33:26.220
 take the cancer

00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:27.160
 out of the person

00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.019
 with the cancer

00:33:28.019 --> 00:33:29.720
 and if they

00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:30.240
 had a person

00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:30.440
 who was

00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:30.879
 completely

00:33:30.879 --> 00:33:31.440
 healthy

00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.099
 they would

00:33:33.099 --> 00:33:34.059
 put the cancer

00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:34.940
 into that

00:33:34.940 --> 00:33:35.559
 person

00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:36.700
 and that

00:33:36.700 --> 00:33:37.599
 person's health

00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:38.240
 would go back

00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:38.759
 into the person

00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:39.599
 who had cancer

00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.379
 so the one

00:33:41.379 --> 00:33:41.900
 who originally

00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:42.599
 had cancer

00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:43.379
 would now have

00:33:43.379 --> 00:33:43.839
 the healthy

00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:44.700
 person's health

00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:46.180
 and the healthy

00:33:46.180 --> 00:33:46.779
 person would now

00:33:46.779 --> 00:33:47.759
 have that cancer

00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:50.440
 if they ever

00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:51.559
 developed such

00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.279
 a cure

00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:55.099
 for cancer

00:33:55.099 --> 00:33:56.660
 and one of my

00:33:56.660 --> 00:33:57.200
 grandchildren

00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:58.099
 had cancer

00:33:58.099 --> 00:34:00.359
 the only problem

00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:00.920
 would be my

00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:01.539
 wife and I

00:34:01.539 --> 00:34:02.379
 would arm wrestle

00:34:02.379 --> 00:34:03.000
 each other

00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:04.279
 as to who would

00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:04.779
 get to have

00:34:04.779 --> 00:34:05.339
 the cancer

00:34:05.339 --> 00:34:10.820
 who would take

00:34:10.820 --> 00:34:11.619
 on the cancer

00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:12.800
 and give their

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:13.179
 health

00:34:13.179 --> 00:34:15.820
 that would be

00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:16.880
 the only argument

00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:17.679
 in our family

00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:24.859
 what we see

00:34:24.859 --> 00:34:25.599
 with Jesus

00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:26.359
 is something

00:34:26.359 --> 00:34:26.919
 like that

00:34:26.919 --> 00:34:29.379
 that

00:34:29.379 --> 00:34:31.940
 he

00:34:31.940 --> 00:34:33.460
 that when we

00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:34.039
 talk about

00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:34.619
 Jesus being

00:34:34.619 --> 00:34:35.379
 our substitute

00:34:35.379 --> 00:34:36.319
 it's not just

00:34:36.319 --> 00:34:37.259
 feelings that's

00:34:37.259 --> 00:34:37.659
 involved

00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:37.940
 that

00:34:37.940 --> 00:34:40.000
 Jesus in the

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:40.339
 cross

00:34:40.339 --> 00:34:41.299
 it's an actual

00:34:41.299 --> 00:34:42.139
 offer of

00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:43.299
 exchange

00:34:43.299 --> 00:34:46.039
 the sinless

00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:46.719
 one with his

00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:47.239
 perfect

00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:48.019
 relationship

00:34:48.019 --> 00:34:48.539
 with the

00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:48.919
 father

00:34:48.919 --> 00:34:49.839
 an unbroken

00:34:49.839 --> 00:34:50.379
 communion

00:34:50.379 --> 00:34:50.839
 with the

00:34:50.839 --> 00:34:51.179
 father

00:34:51.179 --> 00:34:52.319
 that he

00:34:52.319 --> 00:34:53.119
 dies on the

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:53.459
 cross

00:34:53.459 --> 00:34:53.879
 and he

00:34:53.879 --> 00:34:54.239
 willingly

00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:54.559
 says

00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:54.859
 George

00:34:54.859 --> 00:34:55.339
 not only

00:34:55.339 --> 00:34:55.679
 will I

00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:56.319
 take upon

00:34:56.319 --> 00:34:56.819
 yourself

00:34:56.819 --> 00:34:57.199
 myself

00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:57.799
 all the

00:34:57.799 --> 00:34:58.259
 karma

00:34:58.259 --> 00:34:58.679
 that should

00:34:58.679 --> 00:34:59.259
 come upon

00:34:59.259 --> 00:34:59.539
 you

00:34:59.539 --> 00:35:00.500
 I'm willing

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:00.939
 to trade

00:35:00.939 --> 00:35:01.539
 places

00:35:01.539 --> 00:35:02.159
 with you

00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.039
 that Jesus

00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:04.839
 God will

00:35:04.839 --> 00:35:05.699
 relate to you

00:35:05.699 --> 00:35:06.119
 George

00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:07.000
 as if you

00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:07.859
 are me

00:35:07.860 --> 00:35:09.599
 the Bible

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:10.460
 uses words

00:35:10.460 --> 00:35:10.660
 of

00:35:10.660 --> 00:35:10.960
 well

00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:11.960
 in the

00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:12.940
 scripture text

00:35:12.940 --> 00:35:13.200
 that we've

00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:13.519
 been looking

00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:13.980
 at again

00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:14.340
 and again

00:35:14.340 --> 00:35:14.800
 and again

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:16.720
 the one

00:35:16.720 --> 00:35:17.160
 who knew

00:35:17.160 --> 00:35:17.880
 not sin

00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:18.420
 for us

00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:18.900
 God

00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:19.920
 made sin

00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:20.640
 that we

00:35:20.640 --> 00:35:21.500
 might become

00:35:21.500 --> 00:35:22.539
 the righteousness

00:35:22.539 --> 00:35:23.620
 of God

00:35:23.620 --> 00:35:24.680
 in him

00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.119
 there's this

00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:28.219
 offer of an

00:35:28.219 --> 00:35:28.819
 exchange

00:35:28.819 --> 00:35:29.899
 of a trading

00:35:29.899 --> 00:35:30.699
 of places

00:35:30.699 --> 00:35:31.779
 that's why

00:35:31.779 --> 00:35:33.079
 what happens

00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:33.619
 on the cross

00:35:33.619 --> 00:35:34.359
 is not like

00:35:34.359 --> 00:35:34.859
 what happened

00:35:34.859 --> 00:35:35.159
 on that

00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:36.179
 Longmire show

00:35:36.179 --> 00:35:38.099
 which just

00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:38.859
 leaves people

00:35:38.859 --> 00:35:39.500
 having been

00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:40.099
 substituted

00:35:40.099 --> 00:35:40.619
 but still

00:35:40.619 --> 00:35:41.199
 stuck with

00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:41.940
 their lives

00:35:41.940 --> 00:35:44.119
 that on the

00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:44.539
 cross

00:35:44.539 --> 00:35:45.039
 there's this

00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.339
 offer for us

00:35:46.339 --> 00:35:47.539
 not only to

00:35:47.539 --> 00:35:47.919
 have that

00:35:47.919 --> 00:35:48.739
 karma dealt

00:35:48.739 --> 00:35:49.059
 with

00:35:49.059 --> 00:35:50.299
 but to

00:35:50.299 --> 00:35:50.699
 have a

00:35:50.699 --> 00:35:51.500
 new status

00:35:51.500 --> 00:35:52.500
 a new

00:35:52.500 --> 00:35:53.219
 identity

00:35:53.219 --> 00:35:54.360
 a new

00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:55.400
 destiny

00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:56.799
 a new

00:35:56.799 --> 00:35:57.820
 relationship

00:35:57.820 --> 00:35:58.639
 with God

00:35:58.639 --> 00:35:59.019
 that we

00:35:59.019 --> 00:35:59.679
 have not

00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:00.219
 earned

00:36:00.219 --> 00:36:01.239
 that we

00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:01.659
 could not

00:36:01.659 --> 00:36:02.380
 possibly

00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:02.880
 earn

00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:03.820
 and that

00:36:03.820 --> 00:36:04.279
 we do

00:36:04.279 --> 00:36:05.079
 not deserve

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:06.079
 and could

00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:06.920
 not possibly

00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:07.860
 ever deserve

00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:09.159
 and Jesus

00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:09.900
 does it

00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:11.679
 because he

00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:12.759
 loves you

00:36:12.759 --> 00:36:13.519
 and me

00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:14.539
 not as

00:36:14.539 --> 00:36:15.659
 abstractions

00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:17.340
 but as

00:36:17.340 --> 00:36:18.199
 who we

00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:19.039
 really are

00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:20.820
 that there

00:36:20.820 --> 00:36:21.340
 is not a

00:36:21.340 --> 00:36:22.059
 single person

00:36:22.059 --> 00:36:22.360
 on the

00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:22.679
 planet

00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:23.079
 who could

00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:23.420
 say to

00:36:23.420 --> 00:36:23.699
 Jesus

00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:24.059
 Jesus

00:36:24.059 --> 00:36:24.639
 you can't

00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:25.159
 possibly

00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:25.800
 offer that

00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:26.159
 do you

00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:26.500
 know what

00:36:26.500 --> 00:36:26.940
 I've done

00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:27.420
 in my life

00:36:27.420 --> 00:36:27.579
 do you

00:36:27.579 --> 00:36:27.860
 know how

00:36:27.860 --> 00:36:28.360
 I think

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:28.940
 do you

00:36:28.940 --> 00:36:29.219
 know what

00:36:29.219 --> 00:36:29.800
 goes on

00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:30.119
 in my

00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:30.480
 between

00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:30.900
 these

00:36:30.900 --> 00:36:31.759
 these two

00:36:31.759 --> 00:36:32.159
 ears

00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:32.719
 and behind

00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:33.500
 the eyeballs

00:36:33.500 --> 00:36:33.739
 do you

00:36:33.739 --> 00:36:33.980
 know what

00:36:33.980 --> 00:36:34.340
 goes on

00:36:34.340 --> 00:36:34.639
 in my

00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:35.179
 heart

00:36:35.179 --> 00:36:35.759
 do you

00:36:35.759 --> 00:36:36.119
 know my

00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:36.659
 history

00:36:36.659 --> 00:36:37.340
 and for

00:36:37.340 --> 00:36:37.719
 every one

00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:37.960
 of us

00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:38.179
 Jesus

00:36:38.179 --> 00:36:38.719
 says yes

00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.219
 I do

00:36:39.219 --> 00:36:40.980
 I know

00:36:40.980 --> 00:36:41.659
 all that

00:36:41.659 --> 00:36:43.679
 and still

00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:44.300
 it's because

00:36:44.300 --> 00:36:44.779
 I love

00:36:44.779 --> 00:36:45.259
 I know

00:36:45.259 --> 00:36:45.559
 and I

00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:46.239
 know

00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:46.820
 I know

00:36:46.820 --> 00:36:47.279
 what you've

00:36:47.279 --> 00:36:47.719
 been through

00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:48.859
 and I

00:36:48.859 --> 00:36:49.319
 know those

00:36:49.319 --> 00:36:49.739
 things that

00:36:49.739 --> 00:36:50.059
 really

00:36:50.059 --> 00:36:50.899
 you've just

00:36:50.899 --> 00:36:51.159
 been a

00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:51.319
 victim

00:36:51.319 --> 00:36:51.579
 but I

00:36:51.579 --> 00:36:52.019
 know those

00:36:52.019 --> 00:36:52.419
 things that

00:36:52.419 --> 00:36:52.659
 you have

00:36:52.659 --> 00:36:53.299
 delighted in

00:36:53.299 --> 00:36:53.599
 that were

00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:53.899
 wrong

00:36:53.899 --> 00:36:54.379
 and were in

00:36:54.379 --> 00:36:54.659
 a sense

00:36:54.659 --> 00:36:55.379
 karma really

00:36:55.379 --> 00:36:55.839
 I know

00:36:55.839 --> 00:36:56.539
 all of that

00:36:56.539 --> 00:36:57.259
 where the

00:36:57.259 --> 00:36:57.719
 karma is

00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:58.079
 deserved

00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:59.139
 and still

00:36:59.139 --> 00:37:00.279
 I will

00:37:00.279 --> 00:37:00.739
 take your

00:37:00.739 --> 00:37:01.139
 place

00:37:01.139 --> 00:37:01.980
 and still

00:37:01.980 --> 00:37:02.639
 I will

00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:03.139
 offer to

00:37:03.139 --> 00:37:03.459
 trade

00:37:03.459 --> 00:37:03.980
 places

00:37:03.980 --> 00:37:05.500
 with you

00:37:05.500 --> 00:37:07.000
 put up the

00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:07.500
 verse again

00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:08.459
 say it with

00:37:08.459 --> 00:37:08.719
 me

00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.659
 the one

00:37:10.659 --> 00:37:11.319
 who knew

00:37:11.319 --> 00:37:11.739
 not

00:37:11.739 --> 00:37:12.279
 sin

00:37:12.279 --> 00:37:13.199
 for us

00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:13.679
 God

00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:14.079
 made

00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:14.519
 sin

00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:15.439
 that we

00:37:15.439 --> 00:37:15.739
 might

00:37:15.739 --> 00:37:16.359
 become

00:37:16.359 --> 00:37:16.819
 the

00:37:16.819 --> 00:37:17.279
 righteousness

00:37:17.279 --> 00:37:18.119
 of God

00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:19.000
 in him

00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.519
 the Christian

00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:22.559
 life begins

00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:23.639
 when we move

00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:24.179
 from saying

00:37:24.179 --> 00:37:24.599
 to other

00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:25.079
 people

00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:25.839
 Jesus

00:37:25.839 --> 00:37:26.480
 is the

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:26.879
 savior

00:37:26.879 --> 00:37:28.779
 to saying

00:37:28.779 --> 00:37:29.539
 to Jesus

00:37:29.539 --> 00:37:30.699
 be my

00:37:30.699 --> 00:37:31.139
 savior

00:37:31.139 --> 00:37:33.699
 that's how the

00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:34.259
 Christian life

00:37:34.259 --> 00:37:35.339
 really is

00:37:35.339 --> 00:37:35.699
 marked

00:37:35.699 --> 00:37:36.799
 from being

00:37:36.799 --> 00:37:37.259
 able to

00:37:37.259 --> 00:37:37.579
 say

00:37:37.579 --> 00:37:38.859
 Christians

00:37:38.859 --> 00:37:39.359
 say that

00:37:39.359 --> 00:37:39.639
 Jesus

00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:40.079
 is the

00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:40.419
 savior

00:37:40.419 --> 00:37:41.519
 to maybe

00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:42.019
 being able

00:37:42.019 --> 00:37:42.399
 to say

00:37:42.399 --> 00:37:42.799
 Jesus

00:37:42.799 --> 00:37:43.279
 is the

00:37:43.279 --> 00:37:43.659
 savior

00:37:43.659 --> 00:37:44.919
 to saying

00:37:44.919 --> 00:37:45.500
 to Jesus

00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:45.919
 to saying

00:37:45.919 --> 00:37:46.439
 to God

00:37:46.439 --> 00:37:47.239
 Jesus

00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:47.879
 be my

00:37:47.879 --> 00:37:48.359
 savior

00:37:48.359 --> 00:37:49.759
 be my

00:37:49.759 --> 00:37:50.419
 substitute

00:37:50.419 --> 00:37:52.599
 I accept

00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:53.339
 that offer

00:37:53.339 --> 00:37:54.239
 of exchange

00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:55.079
 be my

00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:55.500
 great

00:37:55.500 --> 00:37:56.480
 exchange

00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.079
 be my

00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:58.719
 savior

00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.739
 that's how

00:38:00.739 --> 00:38:01.319
 the Christian

00:38:01.319 --> 00:38:02.500
 life begins

00:38:02.500 --> 00:38:03.939
 and we

00:38:03.939 --> 00:38:04.500
 live the

00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:04.799
 whole

00:38:04.799 --> 00:38:05.319
 Christian

00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:05.780
 life

00:38:05.780 --> 00:38:06.820
 gripped

00:38:06.820 --> 00:38:07.519
 by that

00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:08.539
 and shaped

00:38:08.539 --> 00:38:09.260
 by that

00:38:09.260 --> 00:38:10.620
 that's why

00:38:10.620 --> 00:38:11.100
 the mission

00:38:11.100 --> 00:38:11.680
 statement of

00:38:11.680 --> 00:38:12.080
 this church

00:38:12.080 --> 00:38:12.660
 increasingly

00:38:12.660 --> 00:38:13.559
 is making

00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:14.039
 disciples

00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:14.800
 gripped by

00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:15.300
 the gospel

00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:16.019
 living for

00:38:16.019 --> 00:38:16.440
 the glory

00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:17.100
 of God

00:38:17.100 --> 00:38:18.880
 to understand

00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:20.120
 that this

00:38:20.120 --> 00:38:21.600
 great act

00:38:21.600 --> 00:38:22.620
 of identification

00:38:22.620 --> 00:38:23.980
 and representation

00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:25.380
 and substitution

00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:27.000
 and exchange

00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:28.180
 gives me

00:38:28.180 --> 00:38:28.600
 this new

00:38:28.600 --> 00:38:28.960
 status

00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:29.340
 and this

00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:30.059
 new identity

00:38:30.059 --> 00:38:31.460
 and as

00:38:31.460 --> 00:38:32.059
 this truth

00:38:32.059 --> 00:38:32.900
 grips me

00:38:32.900 --> 00:38:34.380
 well then

00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:34.740
 the idea

00:38:34.740 --> 00:38:35.240
 of identifying

00:38:35.240 --> 00:38:35.840
 with the

00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:36.180
 weak or

00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:36.599
 the poor

00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:37.539
 makes sense

00:38:37.539 --> 00:38:38.860
 the idea

00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:39.440
 of identifying

00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:40.200
 with those

00:38:40.200 --> 00:38:40.460
 who are

00:38:40.460 --> 00:38:40.880
 victims

00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.039
 makes sense

00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:43.019
 the idea

00:38:43.019 --> 00:38:43.500
 of standing

00:38:43.500 --> 00:38:44.240
 in the gap

00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:45.200
 to represent

00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:46.720
 makes sense

00:38:46.720 --> 00:38:47.720
 the idea

00:38:47.720 --> 00:38:48.260
 of doing

00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:48.960
 some act

00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:50.039
 of offering

00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:50.440
 of giving

00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:51.119
 of our money

00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:51.539
 or of our

00:38:51.539 --> 00:38:52.079
 time

00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.079
 as an act

00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:53.760
 of substitution

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:54.360
 or exchange

00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:54.900
 that the one

00:38:54.900 --> 00:38:55.539
 who has no

00:38:55.539 --> 00:38:55.680
 money

00:38:55.680 --> 00:38:56.059
 that we would

00:38:56.059 --> 00:38:56.820
 give that money

00:38:56.820 --> 00:38:57.539
 as an act

00:38:57.539 --> 00:38:59.099
 of substitution

00:38:59.099 --> 00:38:59.599
 and exchange

00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:00.759
 that begins

00:39:00.759 --> 00:39:01.219
 to make

00:39:01.219 --> 00:39:01.619
 sense

00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:02.679
 as the gospel

00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:03.900
 grips us

00:39:03.900 --> 00:39:06.659
 it changes

00:39:06.659 --> 00:39:07.480
 our life

00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.239
 but it begins

00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:10.619
 I put it here

00:39:10.619 --> 00:39:12.239
 I couldn't think

00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:12.679
 of a point

00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:12.980
 if you could

00:39:12.980 --> 00:39:13.519
 put the final

00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:13.779
 point

00:39:13.779 --> 00:39:14.319
 I couldn't think

00:39:14.319 --> 00:39:14.539
 of a way

00:39:14.539 --> 00:39:15.019
 to describe

00:39:15.019 --> 00:39:15.460
 this in a

00:39:15.460 --> 00:39:15.920
 simple line

00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:16.239
 so I thought

00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:16.599
 I would just

00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:16.860
 go with

00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:17.199
 the Bible

00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:17.579
 says

00:39:17.579 --> 00:39:19.139
 be in

00:39:19.139 --> 00:39:19.639
 him

00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:21.500
 be in

00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:22.339
 Jesus

00:39:22.339 --> 00:39:24.940
 please stand

00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:33.900
 maybe some

00:39:33.900 --> 00:39:34.260
 of you

00:39:34.260 --> 00:39:35.420
 God has

00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:35.700
 been

00:39:35.700 --> 00:39:36.519
 sort of

00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:37.940
 zeroing

00:39:37.940 --> 00:39:38.460
 in on you

00:39:38.460 --> 00:39:38.920
 and you

00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:39.440
 can feel

00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:40.159
 his finger

00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:40.920
 upon you

00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:41.320
 and you've

00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:41.639
 never

00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:43.619
 made that

00:39:43.619 --> 00:39:43.900
 move

00:39:43.900 --> 00:39:44.300
 of going

00:39:44.300 --> 00:39:44.920
 from Jesus

00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:45.960
 is what

00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:46.679
 Christians say

00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:46.980
 is the

00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:47.260
 savior

00:39:47.260 --> 00:39:47.740
 to Jesus

00:39:47.740 --> 00:39:48.200
 is the

00:39:48.200 --> 00:39:48.480
 savior

00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:48.820
 saying

00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:49.159
 Jesus

00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:49.740
 be my

00:39:49.740 --> 00:39:50.139
 savior

00:39:50.139 --> 00:39:51.380
 be my

00:39:51.380 --> 00:39:52.300
 substitution

00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:53.159
 be my

00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:53.780
 exchange

00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:54.840
 and maybe

00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:55.360
 the finger

00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:55.740
 of God

00:39:55.740 --> 00:39:56.220
 is upon

00:39:56.220 --> 00:39:56.380
 you

00:39:56.380 --> 00:39:56.559
 this

00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:56.740
 morning

00:39:56.740 --> 00:39:57.140
 the Holy

00:39:57.140 --> 00:39:57.400
 Spirit

00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:57.820
 is upon

00:39:57.820 --> 00:39:58.019
 you

00:39:58.019 --> 00:39:58.680
 urging

00:39:58.680 --> 00:39:59.000
 you

00:39:59.000 --> 00:39:59.880
 to say

00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:00.260
 that

00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:00.940
 to Jesus

00:40:00.940 --> 00:40:01.539
 and there's

00:40:01.539 --> 00:40:02.180
 no better

00:40:02.180 --> 00:40:02.680
 time

00:40:02.680 --> 00:40:03.240
 than right

00:40:03.240 --> 00:40:03.620
 now

00:40:03.620 --> 00:40:04.340
 today

00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:05.300
 in this

00:40:05.300 --> 00:40:05.940
 place

00:40:05.940 --> 00:40:07.039
 to say

00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:07.260
 that

00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:07.760
 to make

00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:08.160
 that

00:40:08.160 --> 00:40:08.760
 say

00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:09.079
 that

00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:09.660
 to Jesus

00:40:09.660 --> 00:40:10.059
 there's

00:40:10.059 --> 00:40:10.539
 no better

00:40:10.539 --> 00:40:10.940
 time

00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:11.320
 than right

00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:11.500
 now

00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:11.860
 won't be

00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:12.120
 better

00:40:12.120 --> 00:40:12.600
 when you

00:40:12.600 --> 00:40:12.860
 finish

00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:13.280
 the degree

00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:13.680
 won't be

00:40:13.680 --> 00:40:13.860
 better

00:40:13.860 --> 00:40:14.059
 when you

00:40:14.059 --> 00:40:14.320
 paid

00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:14.480
 off

00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:14.620
 the

00:40:14.620 --> 00:40:14.900
 mortgage

00:40:14.900 --> 00:40:15.200
 won't

00:40:15.200 --> 00:40:15.340
 be

00:40:15.340 --> 00:40:15.539
 better

00:40:15.539 --> 00:40:15.740
 when

00:40:15.740 --> 00:40:15.860
 you

00:40:15.860 --> 00:40:16.519
 moved

00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:16.720
 into

00:40:16.720 --> 00:40:16.900
 the

00:40:16.900 --> 00:40:17.220
 condo

00:40:17.220 --> 00:40:17.460
 no

00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:17.680
 better

00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:18.039
 time

00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:18.180
 than

00:40:18.180 --> 00:40:18.360
 right

00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:18.660
 now

00:40:18.660 --> 00:40:19.800
 and

00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:19.960
 there's

00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:20.199
 nothing

00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:20.679
 magical

00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:20.980
 about

00:40:20.980 --> 00:40:21.179
 my

00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:21.460
 words

00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:21.619
 but

00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:21.760
 I'm

00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:21.820
 going

00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:21.960
 to say

00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:22.099
 it's

00:40:22.099 --> 00:40:22.320
 actually

00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:22.860
 a word

00:40:22.860 --> 00:40:23.320
 from within

00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:23.900
 the bulletin

00:40:23.900 --> 00:40:24.579
 the groin

00:40:24.579 --> 00:40:24.900
 and grace

00:40:24.900 --> 00:40:25.159
 section

00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:25.400
 I'm going

00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:25.639
 to say

00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:26.039
 slowly

00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:26.480
 a prayer

00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:26.840
 and if

00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:27.380
 the finger

00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:27.820
 of God

00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:28.220
 the Holy

00:40:28.220 --> 00:40:28.460
 Spirit

00:40:28.460 --> 00:40:28.960
 is upon

00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:29.139
 you

00:40:29.139 --> 00:40:30.000
 I'll

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:30.260
 say

00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:30.720
 a very

00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:31.019
 short

00:40:31.019 --> 00:40:31.500
 fragment

00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:31.800
 and there'll

00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:32.619
 be a period

00:40:32.619 --> 00:40:33.139
 of silence

00:40:33.139 --> 00:40:33.539
 I invite

00:40:33.539 --> 00:40:33.679
 you

00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:33.900
 you don't

00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:34.220
 have to say

00:40:34.220 --> 00:40:34.420
 it out

00:40:34.420 --> 00:40:34.619
 loud

00:40:34.619 --> 00:40:34.980
 it's just

00:40:34.980 --> 00:40:35.760
 a transaction

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:36.099
 between

00:40:36.099 --> 00:40:36.500
 you and

00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:36.800
 Jesus

00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:37.240
 all I'm

00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:37.360
 doing

00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:37.860
 is helping

00:40:37.860 --> 00:40:38.340
 put into

00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:38.860
 words

00:40:38.860 --> 00:40:39.920
 what the

00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:40.480
 Holy Spirit

00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:41.139
 is urging

00:40:41.139 --> 00:40:41.519
 you to

00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:41.780
 say

00:40:41.780 --> 00:40:43.699
 and there's

00:40:43.699 --> 00:40:43.980
 no better

00:40:43.980 --> 00:40:44.279
 time

00:40:44.279 --> 00:40:44.539
 than right

00:40:44.539 --> 00:40:44.719
 now

00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:45.000
 to do

00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:45.179
 it

00:40:45.179 --> 00:40:46.739
 and just

00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:47.019
 do it

00:40:47.019 --> 00:40:47.500
 silently

00:40:47.500 --> 00:40:48.219
 I'll leave

00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:48.699
 time

00:40:48.699 --> 00:40:49.819
 and I

00:40:49.819 --> 00:40:50.559
 urge you

00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.039
 I beseech

00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:52.219
 you

00:40:52.219 --> 00:40:52.839
 I implore

00:40:52.839 --> 00:40:53.219
 you

00:40:53.219 --> 00:40:55.639
 to do

00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:55.939
 that

00:40:55.939 --> 00:40:59.419
 Jesus

00:40:59.419 --> 00:41:01.719
 you are

00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:02.319
 the sinless

00:41:02.319 --> 00:41:02.619
 one

00:41:02.619 --> 00:41:05.379
 you tasted

00:41:05.379 --> 00:41:05.819
 every

00:41:05.819 --> 00:41:06.460
 temptation

00:41:06.460 --> 00:41:09.539
 to its

00:41:09.539 --> 00:41:10.379
 full strength

00:41:10.379 --> 00:41:12.539
 without

00:41:12.539 --> 00:41:13.419
 giving in

00:41:13.420 --> 00:41:16.079
 to the

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:16.619
 temptation

00:41:16.619 --> 00:41:19.139
 you

00:41:19.139 --> 00:41:19.840
 represented

00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:20.300
 me

00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:22.800
 on the

00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:23.220
 cross

00:41:23.220 --> 00:41:26.220
 you

00:41:26.220 --> 00:41:26.760
 died

00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:28.940
 in my

00:41:28.940 --> 00:41:29.460
 place

00:41:29.460 --> 00:41:32.180
 you

00:41:32.180 --> 00:41:32.539
 traded

00:41:32.539 --> 00:41:33.260
 places

00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:35.539
 with

00:41:35.539 --> 00:41:35.840
 me

00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.000
 thank

00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:39.340
 you

00:41:39.340 --> 00:41:42.900
 be

00:41:42.900 --> 00:41:43.220
 my

00:41:43.220 --> 00:41:43.740
 savior

00:41:43.740 --> 00:41:48.559
 I

00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:48.860
 want

00:41:48.860 --> 00:41:49.320
 to be

00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:49.660
 in

00:41:49.660 --> 00:41:50.000
 you

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.420
 today

00:41:52.420 --> 00:41:52.840
 and

00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:53.200
 forever

00:41:53.200 --> 00:41:55.980
 make

00:41:55.980 --> 00:41:56.200
 me

00:41:56.200 --> 00:41:56.400
 your

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:57.000
 disciple

00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.079
 gripped

00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.079
 by this

00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:01.599
 gospel

00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.900
 living

00:42:04.900 --> 00:42:05.579
 for your

00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:05.980
 glory

00:42:05.980 --> 00:42:08.700
 amen

00:42:08.699 --> 00:42:10.559
 just

00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:10.899
 continuing

00:42:10.899 --> 00:42:11.199
 by in

00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:11.279
 our

00:42:11.279 --> 00:42:11.439
 heads

00:42:11.439 --> 00:42:11.579
 in

00:42:11.579 --> 00:42:11.799
 prayer

00:42:11.799 --> 00:42:12.119
 father

00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:12.299
 we

00:42:12.299 --> 00:42:12.539
 thank

00:42:12.539 --> 00:42:12.679
 you

00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:12.899
 so

00:42:12.899 --> 00:42:13.159
 much

00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:13.359
 for

00:42:13.359 --> 00:42:13.719
 Jesus

00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:13.980
 we

00:42:13.980 --> 00:42:14.219
 thank

00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:14.339
 you

00:42:14.339 --> 00:42:14.500
 for

00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:14.639
 what

00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:14.719
 he

00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:14.839
 did

00:42:14.839 --> 00:42:15.099
 upon

00:42:15.099 --> 00:42:15.259
 us

00:42:15.259 --> 00:42:15.359
 in

00:42:15.359 --> 00:42:15.460
 the

00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:15.799
 cross

00:42:15.799 --> 00:42:16.339
 we

00:42:16.339 --> 00:42:16.539
 ask

00:42:16.539 --> 00:42:16.799
 father

00:42:16.799 --> 00:42:17.000
 for

00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:17.379
 everyone

00:42:17.379 --> 00:42:17.799
 here

00:42:17.799 --> 00:42:18.000
 who

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:18.159
 is

00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:18.559
 yours

00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:19.500
 that

00:42:19.500 --> 00:42:19.639
 you

00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:19.779
 would

00:42:19.779 --> 00:42:20.039
 make

00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:20.219
 us

00:42:20.219 --> 00:42:20.719
 disciples

00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:21.099
 gripped

00:42:21.099 --> 00:42:21.439
 by the

00:42:21.439 --> 00:42:21.819
 gospel

00:42:21.819 --> 00:42:22.159
 living

00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:22.399
 for

00:42:22.399 --> 00:42:22.559
 your

00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:22.939
 glory

00:42:22.940 --> 00:42:23.760
 and

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:24.079
 father

00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:24.280
 if

00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:24.400
 there

00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:24.500
 are

00:42:24.500 --> 00:42:24.700
 any

00:42:24.700 --> 00:42:24.960
 here

00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:25.300
 today

00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:25.519
 who

00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:25.780
 gave

00:42:25.780 --> 00:42:25.960
 their

00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:26.260
 lives

00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:26.460
 to

00:42:26.460 --> 00:42:26.760
 Jesus

00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:27.059
 for

00:42:27.059 --> 00:42:27.200
 the

00:42:27.200 --> 00:42:27.460
 first

00:42:27.460 --> 00:42:27.740
 time

00:42:27.740 --> 00:42:27.940
 I

00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:28.119
 ask

00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:28.240
 that

00:42:28.240 --> 00:42:28.380
 your

00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:28.619
 Holy

00:42:28.619 --> 00:42:28.960
 Spirit

00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:29.139
 would

00:42:29.139 --> 00:42:29.380
 fall

00:42:29.380 --> 00:42:29.840
 mightily

00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:30.220
 upon

00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:30.480
 them

00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:31.260
 mightily

00:42:31.260 --> 00:42:31.599
 upon

00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:31.760
 them

00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:31.840
 in

00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:31.960
 a

00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:32.159
 deep

00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:32.440
 way

00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:33.220
 drawing

00:42:33.220 --> 00:42:33.400
 them

00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:33.679
 close

00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:33.860
 to

00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:34.300
 Jesus

00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:35.000
 Jesus

00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:35.400
 close

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:35.579
 to

00:42:35.579 --> 00:42:35.820
 them

00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:37.079
 and

00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:37.300
 all

00:42:37.300 --> 00:42:37.539
 this

00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:37.679
 I

00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:37.940
 ask

00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:38.099
 in

00:42:38.099 --> 00:42:38.200
 the

00:42:38.200 --> 00:42:38.360
 name

00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:38.519
 of

00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:38.820
 Jesus

00:42:38.820 --> 00:42:39.119
 your

00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:39.500
 son

00:42:39.500 --> 00:42:39.780
 and

00:42:39.780 --> 00:42:39.960
 our

00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:40.300
 savior

00:42:40.300 --> 00:42:41.039
 amen