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 What a great message we have this morning in our series on giving stewardship and generous giving.

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 I went to a comedy night last night at the Curzon Cinema.

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 There was enough there to make even the most forward vicar blush, so I won't share some of those with you.

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 However, I will share. The church treasurer stood up to address an ecumenical meeting.

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 He said, in this church we welcome all denominations.

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 He paused, held up a wad of notes and said, of course we prefer denominations of tens, twenties and fifties, please.

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 It's a misprint in the church magazine, the Lord loves a cheerful fiver.

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 There was this Baptist minister and he had done his 45-minute preach, which was obligatory.

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 And on this giving Sunday, and he was moved at the giving as it came forward.

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 But a young boy who came forward with 20 pound coins.

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 And as he came up to the front, he whispered to the preacher at the front, the minister.

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 And he said, I just want you to tell you that I've been saving my pocket money for this giving Sunday.

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 And I get a pound a week.

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 And here's 20 pounds.

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 The minister was so moved.

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 He got the microphone and thought, this is going to be an amazing testimony.

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 And he said, so he put the microphone down and he said, would you like to tell the church?

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 He said, yes, I've just got 20 pounds.

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 He said, why did you do that?

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 He said, well, Sunday after Sunday, my dad comes home at lunch.

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 He puts his head in his hands and prays, Lord, that's the poorest minister we've had for years.

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 As we look at this, it's going to be short.

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 As we gather this morning, we just take a look to think what it means about to be a joyous giver.

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 What does that actually mean for us to bring joy back into that ability to be able to give and to share,

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 which is what we've heard in our reading today.

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 And there are three main areas that speaks about God's goodness, his provision.

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 And so we should give that back.

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 That should be part of our heart.

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 Giving echoes what our hearts are trusting in.

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 And I think that's so true as we look at these three truths.

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 The truth, it gave them joy to give.

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 Secondly, that self-sacrifice, that surrender to God and his purposes,

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 and that overwhelming outpouring of God's grace,

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 responding to that enormity to actually give back for all that we have received and will receive from God.

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 This is the meaning.

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 Mother Teresa, who lived amongst the world's poorest in deprivation, spoke a lot.

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 This is the meaning of true love, she said, to give until it hurts.

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 And she continued saying, joy is prayer, joy is strength, joy is love.

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 Joy is a net of love by which you can catch souls.

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 People catch it when we have that joy of giving and sharing.

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 People see that because it is so counter-cultural to our communities.

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 People are looking behind that thing and saying, what's the catch?

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 What's the catch behind you giving me this?

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 I've got to give you.

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 No, this is, I am just giving because we love.

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 And that is what the Lord has told us to do.

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 And it gives us joy to do it.

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 And they will see it.

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 They will see whether it's begrudgingly given or not.

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 They will spot it a mile off.

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 Here's a blessing.

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 They will see it.

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 Out of God's love.

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 And joy giving out of compassion does not come from storing up possessions for ourself,

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 as we've heard from those early churches.

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 But actually storing up what we have in Christ.

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 The perspective of abundance is what Christ has done for us and gives us that joy because

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 we mirror that in what he has done sacrificially.

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 Joy in knowing Jesus' love and grace freely given.

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 It overflows.

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 And that picture of filling a glass until it overflows, until it spills and it keeps going,

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 that grace that it rolls out.

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 You can't stop it and you don't want to.

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 Out of God's love for others.

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 Paul is writing to the Corinthian church in this chapter and telling them about the church

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 in Macedonia.

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 We learn from Paul's first letter that he was organizing a collection.

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 Why was he organizing a collection?

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 Because sadly the Corinthian church had slipped.

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 The Macedonian church had got it.

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 They were a poor people.

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 This collection he was talking about because the Macedonian church, their heart perspective,

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 really, although they had very little, they knew what it was.

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 They knew what their need of God was and had joy in it in order of sharing because they

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 had so little.

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 And this makes sense.

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 It was a grace given to them by God, something that God had enabled in them.

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 That mindset, that character, that culture that imbibes a church that actually can't help

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 stop giving with joy.

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 And this makes sense since they're overflowing plus extreme poverty equaled giving.

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 That may seem strange.

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 It's not an equation that adds up.

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 But I sense the Macedonian church had had one thing.

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 Maybe they had experienced the power of the Holy Spirit.

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 Maybe they had experienced that joy that comes from that sense of the fruit of the Spirit that

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 enables them in joy to be able to do that.

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 Maybe they had experienced that.

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 And maybe we have sensed that maybe in the past.

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 You know, the team that have just returned from Uganda, I'm sure they will be telling stories and

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 telling us, as we've heard before, of people who have material so very little, but yet they

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 abound with joy and share what they have.

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 I mean, it breaks me when I hear the testimonies coming back of I hear stories of that they'd

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 stored up food to feed some Westerner at the detriment to themselves because they wanted

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 to practice hospitality and love.

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 You know, it breaks me.

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 What joy and the joy in giving.

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 It's not given with resentment.

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 It is given with love.

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 If I can see the team nodding, speak to them.

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 You know, we want to hear more stories of that.

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 A joy, this is a joy that came from their heart attitude.

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 A joy that made them beg almost to be part of the privilege.

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 We want to do this for the Corinthian church.

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 We want to show them.

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 We want to give so that they can have and see what we have.

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 Isn't that our heartfelt desire?

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 That we say and we come and we worship together.

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 We want people to have what we have, what we have experienced.

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 And that comes from our heart.

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 Paul continues by recalling their allegiance.

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 Their calling was to God before it was to Paul.

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 It's not that Paul's asking.

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 I can stand, I can come down here, I can beg.

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 I can probably sort of put the plate around several.

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 That's not a response.

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 Yes, our response is to God.

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 And the Macedonian church got that.

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 And the Corinthians had.

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 But somehow it had slipped.

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 In Jesus, we are rich.

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 It's not in any other way.

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 In Jesus, we are rich because of what he gave.

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 That second thing, not only the truth, but in sacrifice.

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 The fact that he gave it all, that we can have everything, is the greatest gift.

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 There is great joy in that that enables us to continue what we hear and why we're talking about this.

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 Because you can't out-give God.

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 I don't know whether you've experienced that in your own life.

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 I've experienced it time and time and time again.

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 Once I'd had an experience of the Holy Spirit.

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 Before then, I will totally put my hands up and say I was not a joyous giver.

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 I was not a joyous giver.

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 I had to move considerably and shift from a position of self-seeking to a place of wanting to give of self and all I can.

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 I look back at my own life and I totally, I totally, totally didn't get that for a long time.

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 This is the perspective and the heart attitude of the Macedonian church.

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 And as Paul tells us this morning, I begin to catch it.

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 A people who didn't mind.

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 They had so little, but they would give it away.

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 And because of that, they knew that love of God.

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 Encouragement to put the love that they had into action.

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 I don't know whether, as my grandmother had this great thing, a song.

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 Was it Count Your Blessings?

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 She used to sing.

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 And she'd sing it around the house while she was doing her cleaning.

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 With, what were those aprons they used to wear?

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 Those, was that a house coat?

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 I never remember my gran without a house coat.

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 And wandering around the house with a woodbine hanging out the corner of her mouth.

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 Singing, Count Your Blessings.

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 And she was a happy little soul in what she had.

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 And she had so few.

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 So what was it with the Corinthian church?

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 Why didn't they get that joy?

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 Well, they had slipped.

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 And as you look at the Corinthian church,

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 they had slipped from a place of joyous giving,

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 of walking closely with the Lord,

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 of moving in the power of the Holy Spirit,

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 to a group of people that had moved towards a bit of legalism.

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 They had started quarrelling.

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 They had started arguing.

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 There was promiscuity that was coming up amongst them.

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 Suddenly, they had just taken their eyes off of the goal,

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 of their purpose, of what they had been called to do.

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 I was chatting with a personal trainer at a gym that I don't go to.

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 Get me wrong.

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 And she said,

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 It's February.

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 And February is the month where everything drops off.

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 We had the good intentions.

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 We all wanted to build up our pecs.

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 We all wanted a six-pack in January.

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 But sadly, February came.

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 And the motivation waned.

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 I think that's what we're seeing in the Corinthian church here.

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 I think they started out really well.

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 But suddenly, they just lost their way.

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 And I think that was the thing about the Macedonian church.

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 Paul knew that they were walking closely with the Lord.

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 They knew they were walking closely.

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 And that kept them close.

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 And it kept them focused.

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 The Corinthian church had wandered.

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 And of course, we know when we wander, we wander.

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 And we wander off.

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 The energy, the enthusiasm, the vision fades.

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 It's part of the human condition.

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 And I've seen churches that have flourished, flourished well in walking with the Lord.

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 And then that thing called complacency sets in.

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 We've plateaued.

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 We've done well.

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 We're okay.

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 Let's sit back and enjoy.

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 No.

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 We enjoy because of that joy.

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 And we want more.

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 And we ask for more of that in order to share and reach out.

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 You see, the fire fades and the joy goes.

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 Paul wants the Corinthian church to be fit and healthy again.

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 To catch the fire.

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 You know, that's what I love about the early salvationists, wasn't it?

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 You know, catch the fire.

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 Get it.

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 Stay alive.

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 Stay there.

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 Be there.

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 And yet the Corinthian church just...

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 And there was that thing about comparison.

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 I don't know what you like with comparison.

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 Maybe the Corinthian church was saying,

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 Oh, don't tell us about the Macedonians.

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 You know, we know them.

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 They do so well.

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 You know, we've all been to those settings.

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 But Paul is just saying,

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 And love and grace.

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 You know, I'm not holding you up in comparison.

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 But I'm saying,

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 You know, they are here.

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 They've got that joy.

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 Please, Lord, find that joy again for yourselves.

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 Where did that go?

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 Examine your hearts.

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 Paul is encouraging them to reignite that heart attitude

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 that made them so eager to give before

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 and to share and be everything that was there.

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 The Macedonian church certainly give a lot,

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 but they gave in response to God's grace.

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 And that's what's mattered.

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 Giving is at the heart of anything that we do.

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 It's all about the joy.

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 And once you get that, then it makes sense.

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 Once you get that joy, then the giving makes sense.

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 Because it's not giving because somebody's put your hand up your back.

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 It's like the people of Exodus, you know, out with manna.

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 You know, I'll give you enough for today.

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 You don't have to store up the rest because it'll all go off.

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 But I'll give you what you need for today.

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 And it's trusting in that.

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 It's trusting in that thing.

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 I will give you what you need for today.

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 And don't worry about tomorrow because that's the blessing.

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 And I bet there was people in that early church,

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 well, in the desert of people.

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 Yeah, I've got enough.

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 Would you like a little bit to share?

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 Because I've had enough.

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 Would you like a little bit more?

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 That's fine.

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 That's what we're called today out of God's grace.

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 God gives to us, to his church, his people,

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 so that it can overflow out.

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 It always gives me a cold shiver

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 when I see a thermometer outside of a church.

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 I don't know what it is.

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 It is, we are raising money for our roof,

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 so we want your money.

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 I don't know whether any of you have tried that.

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 Maybe put one outside of your house and say,

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 would you come and pay my mortgage?

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 You know?

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 I think I'm going to go all over Clevedon now

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 and say, that was a good idea.

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 But that sense of, you know,

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 this was a project that God gave us, this building.

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 We decided early that there would be no thermometers

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 placed outside of our church,

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 because God had called us to do this.

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 And it was out of people's grace.

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 It was out of people's giving.

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 It was out of sacrifice.

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 It was out of sacrifice from years gone by

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 of people that had given and stored up

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 and blessed the church,

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 that we're able to outflow into the community.

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 And this is not about keeping a building together.

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 This sense of what we are asking

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 and what we are saying as a church,

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 is we are seeing it flow out.

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 They say water doesn't run up a hill.

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 I'll tell you what, grace and love flows up a hill

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 as well as it flows down a hill,

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 because God's grace does that.

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 So we want to bless people,

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 not just at the top of the hill.

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 We want to bless people at the bottom of the hill.

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 We want to bless people in every part.

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 We want it to flow out into Uganda.

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 We want it to flow out wherever God's grace goes,

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 because we are joyful givers and share.

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 It flows out.

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 The possibility of what the Corinthian church could be,

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 you see, Paul sees the potential.

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 Paul sees the potential.

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 That's why he doesn't give up.

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 That's his tenacity.

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 He says, look, don't give up.

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 Do it.

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 And I think maybe through our reading this morning,

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 I'm really encouraged by that message to us.

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 Don't get complacent.

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 We won't.

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 We promise you, Lord.

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 But what you will is fill us with your joy

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 to know that when we do give and when we share,

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 it's done with a God attitude

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 and God's heart of giving.

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 A love that overflows into joyful giving.

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 It just doesn't.

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 It just doesn't.