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 Recording. Check, check. One, two, three, check.

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 Alright, welcome to Sunday School.

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 So I hear we're competing with the Cherry Blossom Festival today.

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 If you don't live in New Haven, today is the Cherry Blossom Festival over in Worcester Square.

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 Because the cherry trees, I don't think they're blooming yet though.

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 You know, they always have to make these festivals and then...

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 It's hit or miss.

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 Right, it's hit or miss.

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 Trees didn't get the memo.

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 Trees didn't get the memo. God didn't get the memo.

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 Don't complain about the trees. It's about God.

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 Didn't you hear the sermon this morning?

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 There you go.

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 So anyway, they...

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 Yeah, so we may be small, but we will be fierce.

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 I'm going to start by saying this is my primary resource for today.

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 It's the Gospel of John by D.A. Carson.

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 He was one of my seminary professors, but that's not why I like him.

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 I like him because I think he's one of the best New Testament scholars of the 20, 21st century.

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 And this is probably his, in some ways, his greatest work.

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 And if you wanted to read a commentary, this would be the one I would recommend.

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 There are parts of it that get more technical because he's dealing with all of the scholarship about the Gospels and sources and stuff like that.

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 But at the end of the day, his theological and biblical coherence of understanding how the book of John is put together and how it communicates the message of the book of John is pretty powerful.

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 So anyway, I picked this up at the Cumberland Valley Book Distributors in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, which if you're ever going through Carlisle, Pennsylvania, you ought to stop by because they also have online selling.

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 It's one of the great places to get cheap academic books if you're interested.

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 All right.

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 Well, that's enough of the advertisement.

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 We're going to go ahead and get started.

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 We really are a small group.

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 So what I'm going to ask you all to do is get up.

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 Let's make a little circle.

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 I'm going to put the microphone down so that we can record what we're doing.

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 We're just going to sit and talk together.

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 I don't need to lecture at you.

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 Thank you.

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 What are you talking about?

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 It's Hospital John.

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 Oh, I love John.

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 I love John.

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 John 8.

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 Oh, yeah?

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 Yeah.

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 Yeah.

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 Okay.

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 Now you just like circle.

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 We want to be able to talk to one another.

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 This is it.

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 No.

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 We actually need you.

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 Back.

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 Back, but just closer to one another.

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 There we go.

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 There we go.

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 All right.

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 Good.

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 Good.

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 It's the best place to be.

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 Best place to be.

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 Everyone's in the front of the class today.

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 So if you have a Bible, you can turn with me to John 20.

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 As you know, this series is an ongoing series about the resurrection of Jesus and its significance

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 in our lives.

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 These first four weeks, we've been covering the four gospel accounts with a particular

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 lens of just asking, what is it that this particular gospel adds to the biblical account

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 of the resurrection?

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 How is it that the four gospel accounts give us a richer explanation than any single one

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 does or a fuller understanding of what happened and what its significant was for us?

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 And so its significance is for us.

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 And so we're now at the end of that.

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 The next four weeks, we're going to be looking at some of the passages in, we're going to

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 look at Peter's sermon in Acts 2.

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 We're going to look at 1 Corinthians 15 for two weeks.

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 And we're going to look at Colossians 3 to walk through how the early church, through the

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 Apostle Paul and Peter in Acts, how the early church understood the resurrection and its

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 significance for us.

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 So that's kind of the picture of what we're doing and why we're doing it.

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 So what I'm going to do is, John 20 and 21, there's a lot of good stuff in here.

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 So we're going to focus more on John 20 than John 21, although we will actually talk about

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 both.

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 And what I'd like to do is to pray and then read John 20 together.

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 Now actually, let's read them both.

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 We've got time.

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 Let's read them both and then we'll get going.

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 Okay?

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 So let's pray together.

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 Lord, thank you for your word and thank you especially for the gospel of John and Lord,

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 how you used this man and his writing, how you speak to us through him, how you inspired

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 him to write your word in such a way that it has fed your church and your people for

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 thousands of years.

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 Lord, we pray this morning for you as for your work among us that as we read these things,

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 we would take to heart what it is that John is communicating to us about you and particularly

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 about the wonders of a resurrected Savior and all that that means for us.

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 We pray these things in Jesus' name.

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 Amen.

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 Amen.

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 All right, Tyler.

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 Tyler, why don't you start?

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 And we're just going to go around like a small group.

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 We're just going to read until you get tired or you get to an end of a sentence or an end

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 of the paragraph.

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 And if you really don't want to, you can look at the guy next to you and say, you know,

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 you can keep going if you don't want to read.

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 So we'll just read 20 and 21 together.

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 All right, John 20.

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 Now on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early while it was still dark

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 and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.

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 So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and

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 said to them, they had taken the Lord out of the tomb.

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 And we do not know where they had laid him.

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 So Peter went out with the other disciple, and they were going toward the tomb.

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 Both of them were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the

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 tomb first.

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 And stooping to look in, he saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in.

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 Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb.

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 He saw the linen cloths lying there, and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus' head,

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 not lying with the linen cloths, but folded up in a place by itself.

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 Then the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed.

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 For as yet they did not understand the scripture, that he must rise from the dead.

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 Then the disciples went back to their homes.

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 But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb, and as she wept, she stooped to look into the tomb.

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 And she saw two angels in white, sitting where the body of Jesus had lain, one at the head

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 and one at the feet.

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 They said to her, Woman, why are you weeping?

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 Whom are you seeking?

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 Jesus said to her, Mary.

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 She turned and said to him in Aramaic, Rabboni, which means teacher.

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 Jesus said to her, Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father.

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 But go to my brothers and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

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 Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, I have seen the Lord, and that he had said these things to her.

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 On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews,

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 Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, Peace be with you.

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 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side.

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 Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord.

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 Jesus said to them again, Peace be with you, as the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.

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 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit.

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 If you forgive the sins of anyone, they are forgiven.

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 If you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld.

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 Now Jesus, one of the twelve, called the twin, was not with them when Jesus came.

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 So the other disciples told him, We have seen the Lord.

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 But he said to them, Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails,

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 and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.

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 Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them.

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 Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, Peace be with you.

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 Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here and see my hands, and put out your hand and place it in my side.

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 Do not disbelieve, but believe.

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 Thomas answered him, My Lord and my God.

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 Jesus said to him, Have you believed because you have seen me?

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 Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

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 So verse 30.

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 Do you want to read?

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 I'm still catching up.

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 Okay.

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 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book.

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 But these are written that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God,

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 and the believing might have life through his name.

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 After these things, Jesus showed himself again to the disciples of the Sea of Tiberias,

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 and on this wise showed himself.

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 There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathaniel of Cana in Galilee,

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 and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.

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 Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fish in here.

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 They saith unto him, We also go with thee.

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 They went forth and entered into a ship immediately, and that night they caught nothing.

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 But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.

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 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat?

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 They answered him, No.

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 And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find.

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 They cast before, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.

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 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord.

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 Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord,

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 gird his fish as codentum, for he was naked, and did cast himself into the sea.

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 And the other disciples came in a little ship, for they were not far from land,

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 but as it was two hundred cubits dragging the net with fishes.

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 And as soon as they were come to land, they saw a fire of coals there,

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 and fish laid there on and brayed.

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 Jesus said to them, Bring some of the fish that you have just caught.

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 Simon Peter went aboard and hauled the net ashore, full of large fish, one hundred and fifty three of them.

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 Although there were so many, the net was not torn.

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 Jesus said to them, Come and have breakfast.

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 None of the disciples dared to ask him, Who are you?

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 They knew it was the Lord.

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 Jesus came and took the bread and gave it to them, and so went the fish.

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 This is now the third time that Jesus was revealed to the disciples after he was raised from the dead.

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 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter,

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 Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?

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 He said to him, Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.

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 He said to him, Feed my lambs.

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 He said to him a second time, Simon, son of John, do you love me?

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 He said to him, Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.

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 He said to him, Tend my sheep.

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 He said to him a third time, Simon, son of John, do you love me?

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 Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, Do you love him?

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 He said to him, Lord, you know everything.

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 You know that I love you.

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 Jesus said to him, Feed my sheep.

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 Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted.

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 When you were old, you would stretch out your hands, and another will dress you and carry you, and you do not want to go.

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 This he said to show about what kind of death he was to glorify God.

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 After saying this, he said to him, Follow me.

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 Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them.

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 The one who had been reclining at table was to him, and it said, Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?

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 When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, Lord, what about this man?

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 And Jesus said to him, If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?

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 You follow me.

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 So the saying spread abroad.

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 The brothers, that this disciple was not to die.

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 Yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die.

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 But if it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?

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 This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things, and who has written these things.

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 And we know that his testimony is true.

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 Now, there are many other things that Jesus did.

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 Were every one of them to be written, I suppose, the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

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 All right.

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 What does John have to contribute?

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 First of all, one of the nice things about John is that people wrestle with the Gospels to think,

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 Who is their audience?

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 What was their purpose in writing?

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 Do different Gospels have slightly different audiences or slightly different purposes?

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 John's really explicit, right?

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 What's John's purpose in writing this book overall?

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 Am I not Jesus?

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 The Christ.

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 Yeah.

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 So look at verses 30 and 31, right?

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 So that you might know that Jesus is the Christ.

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 What's the significance of the Christ?

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 What does that term mean?

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 Anyone know?

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 The anointed one.

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 The anointed one.

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 Right.

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 So it's a picture.

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 It's someone who would...

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 The first century Jews had an expectation from the Old Testament

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 that there would be one anointed by the Lord who would come.

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 An anointing, in this case, often had overtones of kingship.

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 It sometimes has overtones of priesthood.

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 In Jesus, it combined those in a wonderful way.

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 And so that you would know that Jesus is the one who is anointed by God to be the Savior of people.

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 Right?

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 And this is the second part, right?

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 That not only that Jesus is the Christ, but that the Christ is the Son of God,

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 bringing together from the very beginning.

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 You think about the beginning of John, if you remember.

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 John begins his gospel with this immensely large view.

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 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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 And the Word was Jesus Christ.

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 The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

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 And so he starts his book with this incredibly cosmic view of Jesus,

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 the Creator of all things, the one who is God with God,

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 and suggesting the Trinitarian perspective that John brings to his gospel

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 to remind us that you see the three persons of one God at work

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 in this very central work of salvation.

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 That Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God,

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 and that by believing you may have life in his name.

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 So this is the goal that John is telling us about.

00:17:06.879 --> 00:17:11.940
 That there is actually spiritual and eternal life to be found with God.

00:17:11.940 --> 00:17:17.279
 The most famous Bible verse in every football stadium in America is what?

00:17:17.860 --> 00:17:19.580
 John 3.16, right?

00:17:21.700 --> 00:17:27.360
 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son,

00:17:27.900 --> 00:17:30.940
 that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have what?

00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.259
 Eternal, everlasting life.

00:17:34.460 --> 00:17:34.580
 Right.

00:17:34.579 --> 00:17:40.599
 So this is a theme that runs throughout the gospel, that life is found in Jesus.

00:17:41.879 --> 00:17:42.000
 Right.

00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:47.980
 Now, when we get to the resurrection, that seems to be pretty important, doesn't it?

00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:54.419
 What we see in the accounts of Jesus bringing this life to people.

00:17:55.059 --> 00:17:59.639
 There are actually a few things I want to draw out of here.

00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:07.660
 But one of the largest things that you see that's unique to John in the way that he spins it out

00:18:07.660 --> 00:18:09.180
 is John has encounters.

00:18:09.320 --> 00:18:10.420
 He has an encounter with Mary.

00:18:10.560 --> 00:18:11.740
 He has an encounter with Thomas.

00:18:12.100 --> 00:18:14.900
 He has an encounter with Peter in these two chapters

00:18:14.900 --> 00:18:23.560
 where he is meeting them in the midst of their confusion and doubt and despair after his death.

00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:29.140
 And in meeting the resurrected Christ, they are transformed.

00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:37.500
 And that's one of the key things that John wants us to see as we look at this.

00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.120
 Before we get to those stories, because that's what I want to spend the bulk of my time,

00:18:41.320 --> 00:18:44.620
 I just want to look at the first eight verses,

00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:51.880
 because there's something else that John is doing in the first eight verses in particular.

00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:59.420
 He's giving details that are not clear in some of the other gospel accounts to the same degree

00:18:59.420 --> 00:19:05.840
 in order to help clarify the nature of the eyewitness account that is being told here.

00:19:06.340 --> 00:19:09.000
 Now, some of you have been in Sunday school for the last couple of weeks.

00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:13.319
 Why is the eyewitness account important in the gospels?

00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:19.980
 It authenticates the message the apostles were preaching.

00:19:20.740 --> 00:19:20.899
 Okay.

00:19:21.299 --> 00:19:27.379
 It was, we saw Christ who rose from the dead,

00:19:28.259 --> 00:19:31.939
 and if you don't believe me, ask these other people that saw it.

00:19:32.139 --> 00:19:33.899
 Right, right, right.

00:19:33.900 --> 00:19:36.640
 It's not a myth, right?

00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:37.980
 It's not a fairy tale.

00:19:38.460 --> 00:19:39.140
 True story.

00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:44.860
 My family went to a church for a while when I was a younger child that didn't believe Jesus was God.

00:19:45.019 --> 00:19:49.660
 It's a long story why we got there and, you know, comes from my dad's spiritual background and stuff.

00:19:50.280 --> 00:19:55.720
 But we left that church because when they, when this church celebrated Easter,

00:19:55.860 --> 00:19:58.080
 which sort of is weird if you don't think Jesus is God,

00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:03.699
 but they celebrated Easter and the pastor stood up, according to my mom, this is my mom's account,

00:20:04.059 --> 00:20:08.819
 and said, and on Easter Sunday, something wonderful happened.

00:20:10.879 --> 00:20:12.119
 And now we have hope.

00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.379
 But there was no content to it.

00:20:15.679 --> 00:20:24.199
 There was nothing except Easter Sunday is supposed to be a day where we get warm fuzzies about the hopefulness of the world.

00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:26.939
 And that was the only thing that they could say.

00:20:26.940 --> 00:20:29.840
 Jesus actually gives us something far more specific.

00:20:30.019 --> 00:20:31.700
 The gospel is a true gospel account.

00:20:32.259 --> 00:20:37.940
 The historical account of Jesus rising from the dead gives us something far more substantive than that.

00:20:38.340 --> 00:20:41.259
 We have a hope that's based on something that actually happened.

00:20:43.019 --> 00:20:47.960
 And so the eyewitness testimony is saying this isn't just a theory or a philosophy

00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:55.360
 or a religious myth that's meant to arouse in us some kind of religious feeling.

00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:57.799
 It's actually what happened.

00:20:58.259 --> 00:21:00.979
 And because it happened, it changes everything.

00:21:02.979 --> 00:21:06.939
 When you look through the 10 verses of chapter 20,

00:21:07.579 --> 00:21:13.959
 does anything strike you about the eyewitness account in this one in particular?

00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:18.039
 What's that?

00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:19.880
 Did you read that?

00:21:20.840 --> 00:21:21.440
 I didn't hear you.

00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:27.539
 Oh, look at John 20, verses 1 through 10.

00:21:28.299 --> 00:21:37.960
 And see if there's anything that strikes you as interesting or that stands out about how John tells the story of them discovering the empty tomb.

00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:43.500
 I just always love the race.

00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:44.380
 The race?

00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:45.460
 The foot race?

00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:45.980
 Yes.

00:21:46.180 --> 00:21:46.940
 James and John.

00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:49.079
 Or John and Peter.

00:21:49.360 --> 00:21:50.840
 John and Peter running to the top.

00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.480
 Apparently John's either out of breath when he gets there or he's scared,

00:21:53.600 --> 00:21:54.620
 so he doesn't want to go away in.

00:21:55.460 --> 00:21:56.759
 It's when he beat Peter.

00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:57.840
 Yeah, but we know that.

00:21:57.839 --> 00:21:58.439
 Right, right.

00:21:58.619 --> 00:22:05.859
 John was a faster runner, but then Peter, in his typical impetuous way, blows by him to actually go into the tomb,

00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.159
 which you wouldn't want to do two days later.

00:22:08.259 --> 00:22:08.720
 Think about it.

00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:14.639
 There was a dead body that was embalmed, but, you know, I mean, when Lazarus died, by four days,

00:22:14.699 --> 00:22:17.980
 they were saying, don't even open the tomb because the stink will be too great.

00:22:17.980 --> 00:22:25.940
 So, you wouldn't willingly necessarily, like, walk into a tomb, but Peter blows right in to see.

00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:26.599
 Yeah, what else?

00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:28.339
 What else about this account?

00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:28.720
 Yeah.

00:22:30.620 --> 00:22:35.680
 They were in the middle of a holiday where they had to be clean, and they were willing to go into this tomb.

00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:37.200
 Yeah.

00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:39.640
 So, this was the Passover, right?

00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:46.880
 Jesus was crucified on a Friday of the Passover celebration.

00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:49.740
 And so, yeah, that's a pretty major thing there.

00:22:50.260 --> 00:23:02.900
 I mean, all of them are, in terms of taking care of Jesus' body, having to interact with this reality of ritual uncleanness.

00:23:03.180 --> 00:23:04.320
 Yeah, that comes with that.

00:23:05.260 --> 00:23:05.680
 Good.

00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:06.220
 What else?

00:23:06.860 --> 00:23:07.340
 Hey, guys.

00:23:08.620 --> 00:23:13.460
 The disciples were ignorant of what was going on.

00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:15.280
 Like, they did not yet understand the Scripture.

00:23:15.280 --> 00:23:15.680
 Yeah.

00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:20.820
 They had no idea what the significance of the empty tomb was initially.

00:23:21.360 --> 00:23:21.520
 Yeah.

00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:22.060
 Yeah.

00:23:22.420 --> 00:23:28.660
 So, it's so easy, because this has been the story of the church for 2,000 years.

00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:32.200
 It's so easy for us to think, oh, yeah, Jesus rose from the dead.

00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:33.080
 Right?

00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:39.899
 Have you ever talked to your friends who didn't grow up maybe in a church background about the idea of resurrection?

00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.819
 Have you ever had a response of, like, that's the craziest thing.

00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:48.299
 People don't rise from the dead.

00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:50.000
 Right?

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:51.680
 When people die, they're dead.

00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:54.140
 It's the only thing that's as certain as taxes.

00:23:55.099 --> 00:23:56.160
 It's like, right?

00:23:56.259 --> 00:23:58.680
 Death and taxes are the only...

00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.700
 So, it's helpful for us.

00:24:02.859 --> 00:24:04.740
 And John is explicit about this.

00:24:05.180 --> 00:24:05.299
 Right?

00:24:05.299 --> 00:24:11.399
 Even the people who were most with him and knew what was going on didn't know what was going on, really.

00:24:12.139 --> 00:24:18.559
 Nobody expected that Jesus was actually going to rise from the dead, even though he had said he was going to.

00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:24.379
 He said he was going to multiple times throughout the account, throughout his life and ministry.

00:24:24.380 --> 00:24:27.580
 But nobody actually believed it.

00:24:27.900 --> 00:24:32.500
 Nobody showed up at the tomb thinking, hey, I think Jesus is going to rise from the dead.

00:24:32.560 --> 00:24:34.040
 I don't think we're going to find anything there.

00:24:37.020 --> 00:24:40.820
 I don't think they were expecting the crucifixion to be what it was.

00:24:41.280 --> 00:24:43.500
 And I think they were in shock after that.

00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:47.560
 It was such a definitive blow.

00:24:48.140 --> 00:24:52.420
 And they had people at the foot of the cross saying, if you really are who you say you are, come down.

00:24:52.420 --> 00:24:54.320
 And Jesus didn't come down.

00:24:54.460 --> 00:24:56.740
 And I think they were devastated.

00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:58.640
 And they were...

00:24:58.640 --> 00:24:59.860
 That was like...

00:24:59.860 --> 00:25:01.860
 I mean, can you imagine if you witnessed that?

00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:10.000
 Whatever had been said would be sort of shrouded in the chaos of that.

00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:10.759
 Absolutely.

00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:11.779
 Absolutely.

00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:13.620
 And why wouldn't Jesus have come down?

00:25:13.800 --> 00:25:17.380
 And of course, like you say, with hindsight, we know why he didn't come down.

00:25:17.600 --> 00:25:20.820
 He had a mission that they didn't really fully understand.

00:25:20.820 --> 00:25:21.080
 Yeah.

00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:21.399
 I don't know.

00:25:21.699 --> 00:25:21.819
 Yeah.

00:25:22.779 --> 00:25:23.500
 So...

00:25:23.500 --> 00:25:23.980
 Yeah.

00:25:24.679 --> 00:25:25.159
 Yeah.

00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:33.099
 But then it does say John went in and saw the clothes and he believed.

00:25:33.259 --> 00:25:33.419
 Yeah.

00:25:33.879 --> 00:25:34.059
 Yeah.

00:25:34.199 --> 00:25:34.879
 So...

00:25:34.879 --> 00:25:35.039
 Yeah.

00:25:35.299 --> 00:25:41.879
 So the linen cloths are one of the things that John uniquely accounts for, I believe.

00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:44.480
 I think I went back and looked.

00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.019
 It's not in the other...

00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:49.440
 So why does the linen cloths...

00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.000
 Why would that cause belief that he rose?

00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:57.019
 What were they afraid of when they went to the tomb?

00:25:57.599 --> 00:25:58.000
 Robbers.

00:25:58.200 --> 00:25:58.440
 Right?

00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:00.860
 They're afraid that someone had stolen the tomb.

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.360
 So what's the significance of the linen cloths?

00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:05.660
 He got up and unwrapped and he left.

00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:06.440
 Yeah.

00:26:06.900 --> 00:26:07.160
 Yeah.

00:26:08.580 --> 00:26:10.620
 It's not even clear that he unwrapped.

00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:13.180
 This is a...

00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:15.620
 I'm going to spend about three minutes on this.

00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:20.980
 But I want to talk about what Jesus' resurrected body did and didn't do in John 20 and 21.

00:26:21.140 --> 00:26:22.019
 We're in John, you guys.

00:26:24.600 --> 00:26:28.279
 What Jesus' resurrected body did and didn't do in John 20 and 21.

00:26:28.360 --> 00:26:29.360
 Because it's fascinating.

00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:39.459
 It's because it's possible that his body simply rose and left the clothes behind.

00:26:41.179 --> 00:26:45.659
 In the same way that his body seems to go through a locked door.

00:26:47.459 --> 00:26:52.779
 And we ought to be surprised by this in a way that we aren't, typically.

00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.259
 So, but yeah.

00:26:58.099 --> 00:26:58.879
 Yes, go ahead.

00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.480
 You know, there was a scripture that when there was...

00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:05.240
 When there was about to bust his head with a rock and he just left to the midst of it.

00:27:05.600 --> 00:27:06.160
 That's right.

00:27:06.580 --> 00:27:07.560
 That he had...

00:27:07.560 --> 00:27:09.340
 If you say that, I remember that.

00:27:10.280 --> 00:27:13.900
 He had to just, you know, materialize out of it, you know.

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.220
 Only God can do some stuff like that.

00:27:16.600 --> 00:27:17.280
 That's right.

00:27:17.360 --> 00:27:22.520
 In John 8, they picked up stones to stone him and he passed through the crowd.

00:27:22.780 --> 00:27:23.720
 What in the world?

00:27:23.800 --> 00:27:24.760
 How did that happen?

00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:26.520
 But he just did it.

00:27:26.520 --> 00:27:26.960
 Yes.

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.559
 So, um...

00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:31.840
 Yep.

00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:36.980
 So, so John is giving some, some very specific details about the linen cloth.

00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.039
 The way that it was left.

00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:40.519
 The fact that it was separated.

00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.299
 The fact that one was folded up.

00:27:42.600 --> 00:27:46.559
 It's a fascinating account that none of these things...

00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:50.980
 It doesn't make sense to include them at one level if they weren't real.

00:27:51.579 --> 00:27:51.679
 Right?

00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:52.700
 I don't know how they wrapped them.

00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.220
 Was it like this?

00:27:55.299 --> 00:27:59.159
 I mean, typically, right, it was...

00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:04.540
 I think it would have looked a little bit like you've probably seen pictures of Egyptian mummies.

00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:04.860
 Yeah.

00:28:04.980 --> 00:28:09.259
 You know, just sort of wrapped, you know, toe to neck.

00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:10.920
 And then the head is wrapped separately.

00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:20.279
 Um, and then it was covered with spices, um, and embalming to, uh, to honor the body and to preserve it.

00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:20.480
 Yeah.

00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:20.940
 So...

00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:25.740
 Yeah, so he just, like, phased out of it and went where he was supposed to be.

00:28:25.840 --> 00:28:28.300
 Then come back before his disciples said, peace.

00:28:28.600 --> 00:28:28.900
 Yep.

00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.279
 There we go.

00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.820
 That's, that's, that's amazing.

00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:34.380
 Yep.

00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:35.800
 And the guy's like, I wrapped him.

00:28:35.940 --> 00:28:36.760
 How did he get out?

00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:37.700
 I don't wrap him.

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:39.720
 So he had to phase out of that.

00:28:40.060 --> 00:28:40.420
 Yep.

00:28:41.060 --> 00:28:41.460
 Yep.

00:28:42.300 --> 00:28:42.540
 Yep.

00:28:42.540 --> 00:28:42.620
 Yep.

00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:50.800
 Uh, is there a significance of the fact that he rose again on the third day in terms of, like, why, why three days?

00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:51.540
 Why was he...

00:28:51.540 --> 00:29:03.560
 Uh, so, so typically, typically, uh, it's understood that, uh, the three days was when you knew you were really dead.

00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.799
 Um, that there was a Jewish understanding that three days meant you were...

00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:08.099
 Okay.

00:29:08.220 --> 00:29:13.839
 Uh, sort of the, the, the Lord could declare you were now dead, you know, legally.

00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:14.559
 Okay.

00:29:14.919 --> 00:29:16.480
 If I remember correctly.

00:29:16.919 --> 00:29:19.639
 Um, there's also that little thing about Jonah and the whale.

00:29:19.639 --> 00:29:25.059
 Um, so, uh, and there was some prefiguring of the three days.

00:29:26.619 --> 00:29:33.220
 So, uh, but, but, yeah, I think that the major significance of three days, um, and again,

00:29:33.220 --> 00:29:38.559
 just in case you ever wonder about this, three days are counted differently than we do.

00:29:38.660 --> 00:29:42.220
 Like, we count three days as 24-hour periods, right?

00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:44.440
 So, but Jesus was crucified on a Friday.

00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:46.839
 Saturday, he was in the grave.

00:29:46.900 --> 00:29:48.299
 And Sunday morning, he rose.

00:29:48.600 --> 00:29:49.539
 Three days.

00:29:49.539 --> 00:29:55.980
 Um, that's a, that's a Jewish way of counting that we might stumble over, uh, but we don't need to.

00:29:55.980 --> 00:30:00.059
 It's just, it's just the way you count days.

00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:08.759
 So, um, you don't, you don't, you just don't need to, if people are like, well, it wasn't really three days.

00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.660
 It's like, well, yeah, you're not a first century Jew.

00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:13.720
 You, you, you would think differently about it.

00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:25.220
 But, uh, so, um, all right, so I've already sort of spoiled it, but, um, Jesus' body, I just want to spend a few minutes on it.

00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.539
 Like, what did Jesus' body do, um, in chapters 20 and 21?

00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.279
 To kind of rattle them off.

00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:37.140
 He ate.

00:30:37.140 --> 00:30:40.380
 Actually, interestingly, Luke says he ate.

00:30:40.620 --> 00:30:42.440
 John doesn't actually say he ate.

00:30:42.540 --> 00:30:43.680
 But he was there with them.

00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:44.980
 He was cooking fish.

00:30:45.380 --> 00:30:48.700
 Um, and he, you would imagine he ate.

00:30:48.860 --> 00:30:53.560
 Because, although, interestingly, Luke is very specific that he did eat the fish.

00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:56.300
 And John does not specify it in the same way.

00:30:56.740 --> 00:31:00.120
 Um, which doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

00:31:00.120 --> 00:31:05.900
 It just means that John didn't feel like it was important enough to include in the same way that Luke did.

00:31:06.120 --> 00:31:06.940
 For whatever reason.

00:31:07.140 --> 00:31:07.340
 So.

00:31:08.300 --> 00:31:08.759
 He spoke.

00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:09.960
 He spoke.

00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:10.460
 Yep.

00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:15.880
 Still had the scars on his hands.

00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:16.460
 Yeah.

00:31:17.060 --> 00:31:17.940
 Come touch me.

00:31:19.020 --> 00:31:19.580
 Yeah.

00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:24.040
 He could be touched.

00:31:24.360 --> 00:31:25.300
 He could be touched.

00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:25.680
 Yeah.

00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:26.740
 Um.

00:31:26.740 --> 00:31:29.759
 He's not, like, some spiritual, like, force.

00:31:30.100 --> 00:31:30.580
 Right.

00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:30.940
 Right.

00:31:31.020 --> 00:31:32.140
 He's not an apparition.

00:31:32.320 --> 00:31:33.960
 He's not a, he's not a ghost.

00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:35.720
 Like, he's actually material.

00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:36.720
 Um.

00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:37.960
 In lots of ways.

00:31:38.420 --> 00:31:38.620
 Yep.

00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:46.539
 So, Matt, what about this, like, this appearance where there's not immediate recognition?

00:31:46.539 --> 00:31:47.799
 That seems to happen.

00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:48.180
 Yeah.

00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:48.379
 Yeah.

00:31:48.379 --> 00:31:48.700
 Yeah.

00:31:48.700 --> 00:31:49.220
 Yeah.

00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:49.339
 Yeah.

00:31:49.339 --> 00:31:49.420
 Yeah.

00:31:49.420 --> 00:31:49.539
 Yeah.

00:31:49.539 --> 00:31:49.859
 Yeah.

00:31:49.859 --> 00:31:51.200
 What do we make of that?

00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:53.220
 Um.

00:31:53.619 --> 00:31:55.960
 I think that, uh.

00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:56.400
 Uh.

00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.799
 I think that, that it maybe speaks to, uh, to potentially a couple things.

00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.259
 It's, it's not, it's not.

00:32:02.620 --> 00:32:08.440
 One is that you see throughout the Gospels, there, there are themes of misunderstanding.

00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:09.160
 Right?

00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.480
 Like, people, people don't understand Jesus a lot.

00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:13.920
 Uh.

00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:14.840
 Uh.

00:32:14.840 --> 00:32:16.779
 They misunderstand him regularly.

00:32:17.120 --> 00:32:19.220
 Even his disciples misunderstand him.

00:32:19.300 --> 00:32:24.200
 And you see this actually ratcheting up as you get to the crucifixion, where the very

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:30.380
 thing that he's going to is, uh, you know, the very thing that he's moving towards is the

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:32.600
 very thing that they don't understand the most.

00:32:32.959 --> 00:32:35.339
 And, you know, Peter says, no, you can't do this.

00:32:35.339 --> 00:32:38.619
 And, you know, that pulls out the sword to fight the Roman soldiers.

00:32:38.779 --> 00:32:41.859
 And over and over again, they don't understand that this is what Jesus is doing.

00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:48.500
 So part of it, I think, in some ways is of, it's the final step in that, um, we understand

00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:55.299
 who Jesus is because of, in light of the cross and the resurrection, and as God reveals

00:32:55.299 --> 00:32:56.619
 himself to us through that.

00:32:56.699 --> 00:32:56.879
 Right?

00:32:57.019 --> 00:33:01.859
 So, the, in, on the road to Emmaus, they didn't know who he was, and then he teaches

00:33:01.859 --> 00:33:04.240
 them, and then he reveals himself, and then they understand.

00:33:04.979 --> 00:33:05.339
 Right?

00:33:05.639 --> 00:33:09.779
 And then they think back, they're like, oh, yeah, we could have gotten that earlier, because

00:33:09.779 --> 00:33:11.299
 our hearts burned while he was talking.

00:33:11.419 --> 00:33:13.859
 But we didn't, we didn't put the pieces together.

00:33:14.439 --> 00:33:20.799
 Um, so it does seem like there is, like Mary here clearly doesn't know who he is.

00:33:20.959 --> 00:33:21.359
 Right?

00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:26.899
 But then when he appears to the disciples, nobody asks a question.

00:33:27.259 --> 00:33:27.519
 Right?

00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:33.500
 Like, when he, you know, when you get to verse 19, he stands, there's not a, like, whoa,

00:33:33.619 --> 00:33:34.200
 what are you?

00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:38.279
 He does say, peace be with you, but that's probably because a guy just appeared in your

00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:38.519
 room.

00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:40.059
 Like, that's a little odd.

00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:41.379
 He'd probably be freaked out.

00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:43.200
 He says, peace be with you.

00:33:43.819 --> 00:33:50.200
 Um, uh, so I think that, that part of it is, there is an ongoing theme of, like, God,

00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:56.059
 we understand Christ because God reveals this to us, not because we have great insight.

00:33:56.059 --> 00:33:57.700
 I think that's part of it.

00:33:58.179 --> 00:34:05.759
 Um, but I think there's, in the resurrection accounts, there's also a sense of, how do we

00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:06.119
 say it?

00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.980
 Jesus was both recognizable and in some, and in some ways transformed.

00:34:11.739 --> 00:34:16.639
 Um, and I don't know exactly how to, how to quantify that.

00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.980
 Um, but, but I think that he was more different in some ways than we imagine him.

00:34:22.980 --> 00:34:29.340
 Um, and then in some ways he was very human, like we do imagine him, I think.

00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.980
 Um, uh, that's as much as I have on that.

00:34:34.019 --> 00:34:35.840
 I don't know if anyone else have any thoughts on that?

00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:44.460
 Uh, the, well, in the Emmaus Road account, he literally has to, like, open their eyes to

00:34:44.460 --> 00:34:44.960
 himself.

00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:45.500
 Yep.

00:34:46.059 --> 00:34:49.820
 If I recall, he has to, he has to do something.

00:34:50.200 --> 00:34:50.420
 Yep.

00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:52.280
 But anyway, we don't spend too much more time.

00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:53.140
 No, it's fine.

00:34:53.220 --> 00:34:53.559
 It's fine.

00:34:53.820 --> 00:34:58.579
 I mean, it's interesting here because the way that, this will lead us into our first,

00:34:58.579 --> 00:35:02.659
 our, our first sort of looking at the account to, to just tease it out.

00:35:02.779 --> 00:35:08.739
 Um, because with Mary, the way that he reveals himself to her is a very intimate and a very

00:35:08.739 --> 00:35:09.519
 personal way.

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:13.799
 Um, um, and it's a, it's a very powerful thing.

00:35:13.799 --> 00:35:22.159
 So, um, so yeah, so just to recognize, um, we've said it, but Jesus appears.

00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:26.980
 Um, it's not clear how Jesus gets around.

00:35:27.099 --> 00:35:29.619
 It doesn't say Jesus walked from here to there, to there, to there.

00:35:29.699 --> 00:35:31.199
 It's just these little snapshots.

00:35:31.500 --> 00:35:35.319
 Now, it's very possible that Jesus' resurrected body could have walked around with his disciples.

00:35:35.759 --> 00:35:42.559
 Um, but it also seems clear that the emphasis on the locked doors is pretty, pretty clear

00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:42.839
 here.

00:35:43.319 --> 00:35:50.299
 Jesus walked into a locked room and appeared to them.

00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:52.740
 Um, there's something about that body.

00:35:53.300 --> 00:35:55.000
 I don't know what, I don't know what that means.

00:35:55.080 --> 00:36:00.080
 I've watched too much Star Trek to like, not probably think that he just got, you know,

00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:02.140
 teleported in.

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:10.340
 Um, but we, but there, there are signs here that Jesus' body is both natural and supernatural

00:36:10.340 --> 00:36:16.220
 in ways that I don't know that we totally understand, but something that we can really

00:36:16.220 --> 00:36:17.080
 look forward to.

00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:23.619
 Um, that the resurrected body is going to be pretty darn awesome.

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:33.400
 Um, so, and it's going to be both real and physical and yet more than anything that we've

00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:38.299
 experienced because our bodies are subject to decay and corruption in a fallen world.

00:36:38.300 --> 00:36:52.740
 So, the linen clause, the eyewitness accounts, um, this account of all of this is so that

00:36:52.740 --> 00:36:58.900
 we would believe that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God, and that by believing we would have

00:36:58.900 --> 00:36:59.800
 life in his name.

00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.300
 Um, now I want to spend the rest of our time looking at these encounters because it's so

00:37:04.300 --> 00:37:07.680
 clear that Jesus meets these people and in doing so.

00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.620
 And I'm, I want to spend the briefest amount of time on the first one because it's what Greg

00:37:12.620 --> 00:37:13.620
 preached on, on Easter.

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.980
 Um, and so if you want to hear the full account, there's, there's a good sermon on it.

00:37:18.980 --> 00:37:21.699
 Um, but the first one is Mary.

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:29.619
 Um, and, uh, uh, as again, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but as Greg said, it's remarkable

00:37:29.619 --> 00:37:33.900
 that Mary is the first one to see the raised, the resurrected Christ.

00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:36.440
 This was counter-cultural in many ways.

00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:43.619
 It would, it, it gives credence to the, uh, to the biblical account as not being something

00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:49.039
 made up, um, because no one in their, in the first century in their right mind would

00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:54.119
 have made up a story where the first witness to this miraculous event was a woman.

00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.940
 Uh, it just wouldn't have happened in that culture.

00:37:57.300 --> 00:37:58.659
 Uh, it doesn't make any sense.

00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:04.500
 It's like saying, I'm going to pick a lunatic to be my star witness, uh, in my, in my court

00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:04.820
 case.

00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:09.140
 Um, it just, it doesn't have, it doesn't make any sense.

00:38:09.140 --> 00:38:14.320
 Um, uh, uh, so, um, again, Greg expounded that.

00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:20.720
 But when you look at Mary, how is Mary transformed by meeting the resurrected Jesus?

00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.780
 That's a question I want to ask about each of the three people.

00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.580
 How are they transformed by their encounter with the resurrected Christ?

00:38:34.820 --> 00:38:37.019
 Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

00:38:37.019 --> 00:38:38.400
 Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

00:38:38.400 --> 00:39:08.380
 Thank you.

00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:38.380
 Thank you.

00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:38.660
 Yeah.

00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:39.160
 Yeah.

00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:39.700
 Yeah.

00:39:40.740 --> 00:39:41.260
 Yeah.

00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:42.300
 Yeah.

00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:49.780
 She announced the disciples

00:39:49.780 --> 00:39:50.740
 the wedding.

00:39:51.019 --> 00:39:51.920
 I've seen the Lord.

00:39:52.200 --> 00:39:52.380
 Yeah.

00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:54.820
 It's a victorious thing to say.

00:39:55.420 --> 00:39:55.720
 Yeah.

00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:56.280
 Yeah.

00:39:56.340 --> 00:39:57.639
 Her going back and announcing.

00:39:57.900 --> 00:39:59.740
 There's something that comes out of it

00:39:59.740 --> 00:40:01.160
 is this incredible confidence.

00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.839
 Like she doesn't just tell.

00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:04.719
 She announces.

00:40:05.339 --> 00:40:06.739
 And that's a strong word.

00:40:07.779 --> 00:40:10.039
 Just so we can be clear on the clinging thing,

00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:11.779
 if this wasn't clear from Greg's sermon,

00:40:12.259 --> 00:40:14.279
 what Jesus is not saying is,

00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:18.359
 don't touch me because I'm like in transit to the Father

00:40:18.359 --> 00:40:20.500
 and you might defile me.

00:40:20.819 --> 00:40:23.960
 Nor is he saying to her like,

00:40:24.099 --> 00:40:24.960
 ooh, don't touch me.

00:40:25.219 --> 00:40:26.259
 Like, you know, get away.

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:28.760
 What he is saying is,

00:40:29.120 --> 00:40:32.260
 you don't have to be afraid of me abandoning you right now.

00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:33.900
 I think her clinging is,

00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:35.120
 oh my gosh, you're alive.

00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:37.240
 I'm going to hold on to you and never let you go

00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:40.220
 because I never want to lose you again.

00:40:40.219 --> 00:40:41.919
 I think,

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.500
 this to me is the most logical read.

00:40:44.879 --> 00:40:45.779
 And what he's saying is,

00:40:45.959 --> 00:40:46.519
 no, no, no.

00:40:47.819 --> 00:40:48.719
 Don't be afraid.

00:40:48.899 --> 00:40:50.299
 You don't have to cling to me

00:40:50.299 --> 00:40:54.559
 because I'm going to my Father and your Father,

00:40:55.019 --> 00:40:56.000
 my God and your God.

00:40:56.399 --> 00:40:58.719
 I'm in the process of ascending

00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.859
 and that ascension will include his time on earth.

00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:03.899
 He's coming from the grave

00:41:03.899 --> 00:41:06.219
 and he's going to the Father, right?

00:41:06.779 --> 00:41:08.819
 And that will include this time on earth.

00:41:08.820 --> 00:41:10.240
 But what he's saying is,

00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.380
 now that I've been raised,

00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.740
 you will be mine forever.

00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.039
 I will be yours forever.

00:41:17.539 --> 00:41:19.019
 So don't be afraid.

00:41:19.680 --> 00:41:22.460
 The separation that you've been weeping about

00:41:22.460 --> 00:41:24.480
 at the beginning is not real.

00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.340
 The separation has now been,

00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:29.539
 has actually been,

00:41:30.200 --> 00:41:31.960
 the thing that you're most afraid of,

00:41:32.019 --> 00:41:32.900
 that you've lost me,

00:41:33.300 --> 00:41:34.400
 is actually not true.

00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:35.400
 So,

00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.800
 I think that's the best way to understand that,

00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:41.160
 like, don't cling to me.

00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:42.880
 Or don't,

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.119
 some Bible verses say don't touch me,

00:41:45.460 --> 00:41:47.500
 which is even more confusing, I think.

00:41:47.500 --> 00:41:47.960
 So,

00:41:49.240 --> 00:41:55.680
 any other thoughts about Mary?

00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:09.239
 It was fascinating,

00:42:09.379 --> 00:42:11.419
 this little sight and sound show that I went to

00:42:11.419 --> 00:42:14.419
 told sort of the story of Mary Magdalene

00:42:14.419 --> 00:42:17.299
 and how she had been rescued from,

00:42:17.399 --> 00:42:19.500
 most likely prostitution,

00:42:19.739 --> 00:42:21.799
 delivered from demonic oppression,

00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:23.639
 brought in.

00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.859
 You think about how Jesus had rescued her

00:42:26.859 --> 00:42:29.199
 sort of sociologically and personally

00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.980
 out of a terrible life situation

00:42:31.980 --> 00:42:34.839
 into a place where she found a place of belonging

00:42:34.839 --> 00:42:37.079
 as one of those who followed Jesus.

00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:39.519
 And then you bring him,

00:42:39.859 --> 00:42:41.879
 then you bring her to the foot of the cross

00:42:41.879 --> 00:42:43.099
 and as you said, Jeff,

00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.099
 it's got to be devastating.

00:42:45.759 --> 00:42:45.940
 Like,

00:42:46.179 --> 00:42:48.379
 this is the first person who looked at me

00:42:48.379 --> 00:42:49.299
 as a human being

00:42:49.299 --> 00:42:50.779
 and not as someone to be used.

00:42:51.500 --> 00:42:53.099
 You don't want to over-psychologize it,

00:42:53.099 --> 00:42:56.319
 but I think this seems to be fair and real.

00:42:56.319 --> 00:42:58.779
 He delivered me from those things

00:42:58.779 --> 00:43:01.799
 and brought me into a place where I belonged

00:43:01.799 --> 00:43:03.980
 and now I'm being abandoned

00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:05.960
 and now I'm lost.

00:43:06.839 --> 00:43:08.699
 And then suddenly he reappears.

00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:10.420
 He says,

00:43:10.860 --> 00:43:11.960
 my God and your God,

00:43:12.099 --> 00:43:13.299
 my Father and your Father,

00:43:13.839 --> 00:43:15.579
 what you thought you had lost

00:43:15.579 --> 00:43:16.980
 has actually now been

00:43:16.980 --> 00:43:20.339
 brought into its fullness.

00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:23.400
 and you will have this forever.

00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:28.940
 Can I be honest?

00:43:28.940 --> 00:43:30.740
 I struggle with this a little bit

00:43:30.740 --> 00:43:31.960
 and this is just going to share

00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:32.980
 with my honesty moment.

00:43:34.019 --> 00:43:35.079
 I love your honesty.

00:43:35.619 --> 00:43:36.180
 It's great.

00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:36.660
 Thank you.

00:43:36.659 --> 00:43:37.960
 But,

00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.980
 I don't see if you have

00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:43.779
 the actual person of Jesus with you

00:43:43.779 --> 00:43:45.559
 for a period of time

00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.179
 and you watch what he does and says

00:43:47.179 --> 00:43:49.960
 and he purifies you if you're married.

00:43:50.139 --> 00:43:50.239
 Like,

00:43:50.279 --> 00:43:51.779
 he does exactly what you said

00:43:51.779 --> 00:43:52.559
 so now you're just,

00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:53.779
 you're a whole different person.

00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:54.119
 Yeah.

00:43:54.659 --> 00:43:56.059
 And then he dies

00:43:56.059 --> 00:43:58.019
 and then he comes back

00:43:58.019 --> 00:43:59.079
 and he's like,

00:43:59.219 --> 00:43:59.559
 married.

00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:00.299
 And you're like,

00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:00.639
 oh,

00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:01.320
 you're back.

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:01.860
 You know?

00:44:02.059 --> 00:44:02.920
 Then he says,

00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:04.000
 don't cling to me

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.440
 because what's coming

00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:06.759
 is going to be better

00:44:06.759 --> 00:44:09.559
 than you having me in the body.

00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:10.420
 At least that's how

00:44:10.420 --> 00:44:11.579
 I always hear it interpreted.

00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:15.059
 I'm just not,

00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:15.900
 I'm sorry,

00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.880
 but unless the charismatic people

00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:18.420
 are right,

00:44:19.179 --> 00:44:19.440
 like,

00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:20.039
 and we're just,

00:44:20.139 --> 00:44:21.400
 we're resisting the spirit

00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:22.380
 and we don't have

00:44:22.380 --> 00:44:23.799
 what we really ought to have,

00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.960
 I'm willing to say that.

00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:27.340
 I am willing to say that.

00:44:28.100 --> 00:44:30.200
 Then I just don't agree with that.

00:44:30.580 --> 00:44:30.780
 I mean,

00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:31.720
 don't we all long

00:44:31.720 --> 00:44:32.460
 to be with Jesus?

00:44:32.660 --> 00:44:33.019
 Wouldn't we,

00:44:33.120 --> 00:44:34.320
 wouldn't we do anything

00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:35.440
 to have him walk in the door

00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:36.620
 right now and hug us

00:44:36.620 --> 00:44:37.080
 and just,

00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:38.300
 and we could talk to him

00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:38.600
 and say,

00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:39.660
 why this?

00:44:39.740 --> 00:44:40.539
 And what this is,

00:44:40.620 --> 00:44:40.900
 you know,

00:44:40.900 --> 00:44:41.660
 and interact

00:44:41.660 --> 00:44:43.700
 and have him speak to us

00:44:43.700 --> 00:44:44.660
 like apparently he's

00:44:44.660 --> 00:44:46.200
 interacted with them

00:44:46.200 --> 00:44:47.880
 and don't we,

00:44:48.900 --> 00:44:49.680
 aren't we told,

00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:50.120
 whoa,

00:44:50.420 --> 00:44:53.780
 you see through a mirror dimly now,

00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.720
 and you believe now

00:44:55.720 --> 00:44:56.660
 and you don't even see

00:44:56.660 --> 00:44:59.180
 and we have things like that

00:44:59.180 --> 00:45:01.260
 and so I struggle with this

00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:02.440
 little piece here

00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:03.000
 of the,

00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:03.960
 don't claim to me

00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:04.840
 because this is going to be

00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:05.440
 way better

00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.120
 and way more awesome.

00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:08.760
 I think more,

00:45:09.180 --> 00:45:10.640
 I think I could get my head around,

00:45:11.180 --> 00:45:12.580
 I can't stay now,

00:45:13.019 --> 00:45:14.600
 I have to send myself out

00:45:14.600 --> 00:45:15.600
 onto millions,

00:45:16.300 --> 00:45:17.900
 but we'll be reunited

00:45:17.900 --> 00:45:21.000
 and that will be a good thing,

00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.139
 but it can't be as good

00:45:23.139 --> 00:45:23.880
 as having it,

00:45:24.019 --> 00:45:24.980
 it just can't,

00:45:24.980 --> 00:45:25.920
 can it?

00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:32.440
 Or are we not drinking

00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:33.420
 in the well?

00:45:33.420 --> 00:45:34.320
 like,

00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:35.300
 no,

00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:36.680
 so,

00:45:38.220 --> 00:45:41.680
 having,

00:45:41.900 --> 00:45:44.380
 having seen the resurrected Christ

00:45:44.380 --> 00:45:45.800
 is better than having seen him

00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:46.559
 before he died

00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.260
 because we understand more

00:45:48.260 --> 00:45:48.900
 of what he's doing,

00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.139
 but I do think that

00:45:51.139 --> 00:45:52.420
 you sort of slipped it in there

00:45:52.420 --> 00:45:52.680
 like,

00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:53.059
 oh,

00:45:53.380 --> 00:45:55.619
 but if maybe Jesus was clear

00:45:55.619 --> 00:45:56.420
 about this plan,

00:45:56.500 --> 00:45:56.680
 like,

00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:57.079
 I'm gonna,

00:45:57.260 --> 00:45:58.880
 I'm going to prepare a place

00:45:58.880 --> 00:45:59.380
 for you,

00:45:59.380 --> 00:46:01.380
 but your job now

00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:02.500
 is to proclaim me

00:46:02.500 --> 00:46:03.400
 and to spread me

00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:03.980
 as far as,

00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:04.860
 as far as you can

00:46:04.860 --> 00:46:05.240
 because,

00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:06.599
 because we're gonna have that

00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:07.300
 again.

00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:08.360
 Um,

00:46:08.660 --> 00:46:10.260
 I actually think

00:46:10.260 --> 00:46:11.480
 that that is what he does.

00:46:12.019 --> 00:46:12.380
 Um,

00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:13.019
 so look,

00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:13.700
 look with me,

00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:14.599
 look at verse,

00:46:14.700 --> 00:46:15.019
 uh,

00:46:15.720 --> 00:46:16.260
 17,

00:46:16.640 --> 00:46:16.940
 right?

00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:18.900
 Don't cling to me

00:46:18.900 --> 00:46:19.940
 for I have not yet ascended

00:46:19.940 --> 00:46:20.960
 to the Father.

00:46:21.619 --> 00:46:22.760
 Go to my brothers

00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:23.820
 and say,

00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:24.559
 right?

00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:25.880
 So the first thing,

00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:26.280
 so,

00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:26.780
 so,

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:28.720
 so Jesus then says,

00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.519
 don't stay here with me.

00:46:30.919 --> 00:46:32.239
 I have another task for you.

00:46:32.539 --> 00:46:33.919
 Go and let other people know.

00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:35.659
 And you know what we'll see?

00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:37.879
 We'll see it three times.

00:46:38.799 --> 00:46:40.759
 Everybody that he interacts with.

00:46:41.459 --> 00:46:41.919
 That's,

00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.859
 that's a key part of

00:46:43.859 --> 00:46:45.539
 what he's doing,

00:46:45.899 --> 00:46:46.339
 um,

00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:48.039
 as he prepares,

00:46:48.500 --> 00:46:50.339
 as during this time

00:46:50.339 --> 00:46:51.399
 of resurrected

00:46:51.399 --> 00:46:53.419
 and not yet ascended Jesus,

00:46:53.939 --> 00:46:55.079
 what Jesus is doing

00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:55.879
 is reaffirming

00:46:55.879 --> 00:46:57.019
 what he's told them

00:46:57.019 --> 00:46:57.959
 the whole time

00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.300
 about what he's going to do

00:47:00.300 --> 00:47:01.840
 and about what his purpose is

00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:02.559
 and what it means

00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:03.720
 for them to follow him

00:47:03.720 --> 00:47:05.400
 is to proclaim him,

00:47:05.659 --> 00:47:06.039
 right?

00:47:09.099 --> 00:47:10.579
 But it's finally going to fall

00:47:10.579 --> 00:47:11.240
 into place

00:47:11.240 --> 00:47:12.199
 in a new way.

00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:12.840
 Um,

00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:13.380
 and in fact,

00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:14.539
 it doesn't really fall into place

00:47:14.539 --> 00:47:15.179
 until Acts,

00:47:15.300 --> 00:47:15.579
 right?

00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:17.300
 We don't really see

00:47:17.300 --> 00:47:18.059
 the fullness come

00:47:18.059 --> 00:47:19.019
 of,

00:47:19.260 --> 00:47:20.240
 of the disciples

00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:20.880
 getting this

00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:21.920
 until Acts 2.

00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:23.860
 It would seem like.

00:47:23.860 --> 00:47:26.000
 Um,

00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.500
 and maybe

00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:29.200
 the Charismatics

00:47:29.200 --> 00:47:29.860
 do have things

00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:30.500
 to teach us

00:47:30.500 --> 00:47:32.079
 about experiencing

00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:32.960
 the risen Christ,

00:47:33.740 --> 00:47:34.079
 uh,

00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:35.460
 daily experience now.

00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:35.900
 Um,

00:47:35.900 --> 00:47:39.200
 in the way that our,

00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:40.120
 in the way that our

00:47:40.120 --> 00:47:41.099
 sort of reformed

00:47:41.099 --> 00:47:41.579
 cognitive,

00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:42.360
 um,

00:47:42.820 --> 00:47:43.720
 understanding of

00:47:43.720 --> 00:47:44.220
 Christianity

00:47:44.220 --> 00:47:45.039
 can be,

00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:45.579
 uh,

00:47:46.220 --> 00:47:46.740
 uh,

00:47:46.739 --> 00:47:48.979
 faithful,

00:47:49.279 --> 00:47:49.719
 true,

00:47:50.219 --> 00:47:50.719
 right,

00:47:51.579 --> 00:47:53.019
 but maybe lacking

00:47:53.019 --> 00:47:53.839
 I think of it

00:47:53.839 --> 00:47:55.699
 through the lens

00:47:55.699 --> 00:47:56.659
 of conversation.

00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:58.079
 So like my charismatic

00:47:58.079 --> 00:47:59.500
 friends come in

00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:00.459
 and they encourage me

00:48:00.459 --> 00:48:01.719
 to seek out

00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:02.679
 like a direct,

00:48:03.459 --> 00:48:04.799
 like I'm going to say,

00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:05.239
 yeah,

00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:06.079
 I have my conversation

00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:06.899
 through God's word.

00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:07.799
 Like he's given me

00:48:07.799 --> 00:48:08.359
 God's work.

00:48:08.479 --> 00:48:09.419
 I have his word.

00:48:09.839 --> 00:48:09.979
 Yeah.

00:48:09.979 --> 00:48:10.879
 And that's why

00:48:10.879 --> 00:48:11.419
 I was connected

00:48:11.419 --> 00:48:12.699
 into having Jesus

00:48:12.699 --> 00:48:13.259
 physically,

00:48:13.619 --> 00:48:14.239
 like Mary said

00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:14.759
 something to Jesus.

00:48:14.879 --> 00:48:15.439
 He said something

00:48:15.439 --> 00:48:15.919
 back to her.

00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:16.740
 She said,

00:48:16.820 --> 00:48:16.920
 well,

00:48:16.940 --> 00:48:17.740
 I want to cling on you.

00:48:17.820 --> 00:48:18.079
 He's like,

00:48:18.099 --> 00:48:18.220
 no,

00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:18.920
 you can't right now.

00:48:19.139 --> 00:48:19.159
 And,

00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.440
 and what my friends

00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:21.940
 would say is,

00:48:22.019 --> 00:48:22.139
 yeah,

00:48:22.139 --> 00:48:22.980
 you can have that.

00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:24.740
 And what everything

00:48:24.740 --> 00:48:25.480
 in my heart

00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:26.280
 and my experience

00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:26.680
 in life,

00:48:26.720 --> 00:48:29.079
 you have enough.

00:48:29.380 --> 00:48:29.740
 Yeah.

00:48:29.860 --> 00:48:30.980
 You have what's sufficient

00:48:30.980 --> 00:48:32.440
 in the written word of God

00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:34.280
 and you need to just calm down

00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.159
 because this is coming.

00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:36.680
 Yeah.

00:48:37.180 --> 00:48:39.220
 So just to cap this off

00:48:39.220 --> 00:48:39.780
 and just saying

00:48:39.780 --> 00:48:40.380
 to me,

00:48:40.420 --> 00:48:41.300
 it's not better

00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:43.059
 than what they,

00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.280
 if you've got Jesus,

00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:46.320
 the risen Jesus

00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:47.560
 right there

00:48:47.560 --> 00:48:48.220
 and he's like,

00:48:48.380 --> 00:48:49.400
 we've got to go,

00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:50.500
 we've got a mission now

00:48:50.500 --> 00:48:51.019
 and then we're going

00:48:51.019 --> 00:48:51.700
 to get reunited.

00:48:52.019 --> 00:48:52.740
 I like that.

00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:53.100
 Yeah.

00:48:53.580 --> 00:48:54.019
 But if,

00:48:54.260 --> 00:48:54.380
 yeah,

00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:54.580
 no,

00:48:54.620 --> 00:48:54.940
 it seems,

00:48:55.100 --> 00:48:55.840
 if he's going to say,

00:48:56.019 --> 00:48:56.880
 what I'm about to do

00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:57.700
 is going to be way better

00:48:57.700 --> 00:48:58.480
 than you having me

00:48:58.480 --> 00:48:59.400
 physically here with you,

00:48:59.500 --> 00:49:00.140
 that's the part

00:49:00.140 --> 00:49:00.840
 I don't understand.

00:49:00.980 --> 00:49:01.700
 Now we can move on

00:49:01.700 --> 00:49:02.200
 and not get.

00:49:02.500 --> 00:49:02.760
 Okay.

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:04.920
 Where does he say that?

00:49:05.100 --> 00:49:05.300
 Sorry.

00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:05.980
 Say which?

00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:07.140
 Or if he says

00:49:07.140 --> 00:49:08.320
 that it is going to be better.

00:49:08.540 --> 00:49:09.320
 In John 14,

00:49:09.420 --> 00:49:09.540
 right?

00:49:09.539 --> 00:49:11.380
 If I do not go,

00:49:11.500 --> 00:49:12.960
 then you cannot understand.

00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.739
 I think it's implicit

00:49:15.739 --> 00:49:17.500
 in the don't cling to me.

00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:20.039
 He's trying to tell Mary,

00:49:20.340 --> 00:49:20.420
 like,

00:49:20.820 --> 00:49:21.059
 hey,

00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:21.820
 don't hang,

00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.139
 don't physically try

00:49:23.139 --> 00:49:24.259
 to hang on to me right now

00:49:24.259 --> 00:49:25.579
 because even though

00:49:25.579 --> 00:49:26.840
 my presence is good,

00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:29.659
 I'm ascending to my Father,

00:49:30.059 --> 00:49:31.199
 but the hope is that

00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:32.300
 because he's my Father

00:49:32.300 --> 00:49:32.840
 and your Father

00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:33.340
 and my God

00:49:33.340 --> 00:49:33.940
 and your God,

00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:36.440
 you're going to come with me

00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:37.179
 eventually.

00:49:37.579 --> 00:49:38.119
 You will come.

00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:38.980
 And so that's...

00:49:38.980 --> 00:49:39.799
 He's not saying

00:49:39.799 --> 00:49:40.839
 that life on earth

00:49:40.839 --> 00:49:41.639
 is going to be better

00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:42.460
 without...

00:49:42.460 --> 00:49:42.880
 No.

00:49:43.219 --> 00:49:43.460
 Yeah.

00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:44.299
 Not necessarily.

00:49:44.380 --> 00:49:44.500
 Well,

00:49:44.539 --> 00:49:45.960
 it's an interpretation thing,

00:49:46.019 --> 00:49:46.159
 right?

00:49:46.299 --> 00:49:47.460
 It's a...

00:49:47.460 --> 00:49:48.719
 You having his spirit,

00:49:48.900 --> 00:49:49.039
 like,

00:49:49.099 --> 00:49:49.940
 once he goes,

00:49:50.339 --> 00:49:51.699
 that enables his spirit

00:49:51.699 --> 00:49:52.480
 to be poured out

00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:53.019
 on everyone

00:49:53.019 --> 00:49:54.739
 and you receiving

00:49:54.739 --> 00:49:55.519
 that Holy Spirit

00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.519
 is better than...

00:49:58.639 --> 00:49:59.519
 Some argue.

00:49:59.519 --> 00:49:59.980
 This is what

00:49:59.980 --> 00:50:00.880
 some people would argue.

00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:01.699
 Well,

00:50:01.759 --> 00:50:02.480
 he says it explicitly

00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:03.319
 in John 16,

00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:03.559
 right?

00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:03.880
 Yes.

00:50:03.940 --> 00:50:04.440
 It's not 14,

00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:05.019
 it's 16.

00:50:05.219 --> 00:50:05.400
 Yeah.

00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:05.920
 Nevertheless,

00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:07.019
 I tell you the truth,

00:50:07.139 --> 00:50:07.920
 it is to your advantage

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:08.599
 that I go away,

00:50:08.659 --> 00:50:09.559
 for if I do not go away,

00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:10.800
 the helper will not come to you.

00:50:11.180 --> 00:50:11.340
 Yeah.

00:50:11.340 --> 00:50:11.900
 So clearly it is

00:50:11.900 --> 00:50:12.579
 to our advantage

00:50:12.579 --> 00:50:13.559
 that we are not with him.

00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:14.400
 No.

00:50:16.700 --> 00:50:17.320
 But it's not...

00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:18.539
 If I do not go away,

00:50:18.659 --> 00:50:19.480
 it is to your advantage.

00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:19.840
 Yeah.

00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:20.460
 Yeah.

00:50:21.059 --> 00:50:21.320
 But,

00:50:21.579 --> 00:50:21.840
 so,

00:50:22.139 --> 00:50:22.840
 if we don't have...

00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:23.820
 If we just have Christ

00:50:23.820 --> 00:50:25.340
 in the flesh,

00:50:25.780 --> 00:50:26.700
 obviously that's wonderful,

00:50:26.700 --> 00:50:27.380
 but...

00:50:27.380 --> 00:50:29.720
 But if we don't have the spirit,

00:50:29.860 --> 00:50:30.840
 we don't have participation

00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:31.780
 in the Godhead,

00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:31.980
 right?

00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:32.519
 The spirit

00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:34.139
 that dwells within us

00:50:34.139 --> 00:50:35.240
 allows us to participate

00:50:35.240 --> 00:50:36.119
 in the Father,

00:50:36.260 --> 00:50:36.380
 Son,

00:50:36.420 --> 00:50:36.840
 and the Holy Spirit

00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:37.720
 that try you in God.

00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:38.679
 So of course

00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:39.399
 that's better

00:50:39.399 --> 00:50:40.539
 than being present

00:50:40.539 --> 00:50:41.059
 with Christ,

00:50:41.179 --> 00:50:42.239
 as wonderful as that is,

00:50:42.299 --> 00:50:43.619
 and hopefully we will be

00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:43.959
 one day,

00:50:44.059 --> 00:50:44.719
 but...

00:50:45.839 --> 00:50:46.519
 I just...

00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.000
 Participation in the...

00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.379
 That's a really excellent comment.

00:50:49.779 --> 00:50:49.959
 Yeah.

00:50:50.179 --> 00:50:50.319
 Yeah.

00:50:50.459 --> 00:50:51.539
 That is an excellent comment.

00:50:51.579 --> 00:50:52.000
 And so I think

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:52.959
 that comes from the,

00:50:52.959 --> 00:50:54.099
 you know,

00:50:54.179 --> 00:50:55.239
 the early church concept

00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:55.839
 of theosis,

00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:56.719
 and then Calvin also

00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:57.759
 has the union

00:50:57.759 --> 00:50:58.359
 with Christ,

00:50:58.439 --> 00:50:58.619
 right?

00:50:59.219 --> 00:50:59.939
 And that's,

00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:00.519
 we...

00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:01.199
 That's through the

00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:01.839
 Holy Spirit

00:51:01.839 --> 00:51:02.639
 dwelling within us.

00:51:02.779 --> 00:51:02.899
 Yeah.

00:51:03.459 --> 00:51:03.980
 Yeah.

00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:07.760
 And if in some sense

00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:08.699
 that can't happen

00:51:08.699 --> 00:51:09.599
 until Jesus,

00:51:10.099 --> 00:51:11.240
 which we can't understand,

00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:11.940
 why?

00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:12.360
 Right,

00:51:12.460 --> 00:51:12.500
 right,

00:51:12.500 --> 00:51:12.780
 right,

00:51:12.780 --> 00:51:12.980
 right,

00:51:13.059 --> 00:51:13.219
 right.

00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:14.099
 But he's pretty explicit

00:51:14.099 --> 00:51:14.480
 about it,

00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:15.960
 and I have to go away

00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:16.980
 for the Spirit to come.

00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:18.559
 It seems that that's...

00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:19.340
 But where we're headed

00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:20.000
 is both and.

00:51:20.619 --> 00:51:21.360
 Where we're headed

00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:22.079
 is both and.

00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:22.500
 Yep.

00:51:22.619 --> 00:51:23.219
 And the both and

00:51:23.219 --> 00:51:23.759
 is not now.

00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:25.320
 We don't get Jesus.

00:51:25.579 --> 00:51:26.340
 We don't get...

00:51:26.340 --> 00:51:27.779
 We don't get all of that now.

00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:29.619
 What we do have

00:51:29.619 --> 00:51:30.159
 is the Spirit.

00:51:30.500 --> 00:51:30.820
 And that's a...

00:51:30.820 --> 00:51:31.460
 And in the Old Testament,

00:51:31.579 --> 00:51:31.699
 right,

00:51:31.759 --> 00:51:32.799
 God dwells with the people

00:51:32.799 --> 00:51:33.900
 of God in the Spirit,

00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:35.699
 but not within them,

00:51:35.759 --> 00:51:35.900
 right?

00:51:36.299 --> 00:51:36.599
 Right.

00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:37.840
 In the same way.

00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.159
 The crucifixion

00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:40.000
 and resurrection of Christ

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:40.619
 and the descent

00:51:40.619 --> 00:51:41.119
 of the Holy Spirit

00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:42.659
 allows for that.

00:51:44.259 --> 00:51:44.420
 Yeah.

00:51:44.659 --> 00:51:45.239
 Thanks, John.

00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:45.860
 That's wonderful.

00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:46.739
 Yeah.

00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.039
 All right.

00:51:50.139 --> 00:51:50.820
 Let's move on

00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:51.559
 to Thomas.

00:51:52.980 --> 00:51:54.619
 How is Thomas transformed

00:51:54.619 --> 00:51:55.799
 by his encounter

00:51:55.799 --> 00:51:57.719
 with the risen Christ?

00:51:58.179 --> 00:51:59.599
 So now we're at...

00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:01.320
 There's this intervening thing

00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:02.259
 where Jesus appears

00:52:02.259 --> 00:52:03.000
 to the disciples.

00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:04.799
 They're excited about him.

00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:05.159
 He says,

00:52:05.259 --> 00:52:06.299
 Peace be with you

00:52:06.299 --> 00:52:07.539
 as the Father sent me up.

00:52:07.539 --> 00:52:08.420
 So I'm sending you.

00:52:08.500 --> 00:52:09.679
 So you see this clear,

00:52:09.820 --> 00:52:10.099
 like,

00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:11.440
 missional sense.

00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:11.719
 Like,

00:52:11.940 --> 00:52:13.340
 as Jesus is appearing

00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:13.840
 to people,

00:52:14.219 --> 00:52:14.820
 he is saying,

00:52:14.940 --> 00:52:15.699
 the purpose of this

00:52:15.699 --> 00:52:16.519
 is not just so that

00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:17.219
 we're having a little

00:52:17.219 --> 00:52:18.019
 come-by-out moment,

00:52:18.179 --> 00:52:18.440
 right?

00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:21.579
 I'm appearing to you

00:52:21.579 --> 00:52:23.039
 because I'm now

00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:24.779
 going to be commissioning you

00:52:24.779 --> 00:52:27.219
 to be sent out.

00:52:28.099 --> 00:52:28.880
 Verse 22,

00:52:29.139 --> 00:52:29.719
 just briefly,

00:52:29.860 --> 00:52:30.820
 receive the Holy Spirit.

00:52:31.139 --> 00:52:31.679
 Obviously,

00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:33.299
 the outpouring of Pentecost.

00:52:33.799 --> 00:52:35.119
 This is some sort of

00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.299
 proleptic encounter.

00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:38.659
 People spilled

00:52:38.659 --> 00:52:39.920
 all sorts of ink

00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:41.880
 about when the disciples

00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:42.840
 had the Holy Spirit,

00:52:42.940 --> 00:52:43.779
 when they didn't.

00:52:43.780 --> 00:52:46.400
 I think that we can say

00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.560
 clearly that at Pentecost,

00:52:48.660 --> 00:52:49.180
 the Holy Spirit

00:52:49.180 --> 00:52:50.360
 was poured out on them

00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.900
 fully and in a

00:52:52.900 --> 00:52:55.820
 beginning of a new era way

00:52:55.820 --> 00:52:57.440
 and that before then,

00:52:57.880 --> 00:52:59.280
 we have these

00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.040
 time when,

00:53:01.300 --> 00:53:02.680
 again,

00:53:02.900 --> 00:53:05.000
 I don't think we need

00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:06.660
 to make this into,

00:53:07.160 --> 00:53:08.460
 it's not Pentecost.

00:53:08.460 --> 00:53:09.280
 I think it's distinct

00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:09.980
 from Pentecost,

00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:11.679
 but it's,

00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:13.659
 but I think it's

00:53:13.659 --> 00:53:14.240
 looking ahead

00:53:14.240 --> 00:53:15.119
 and preparing them

00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:15.699
 for this.

00:53:15.699 --> 00:53:23.919
 We come to Thomas

00:53:23.919 --> 00:53:25.460
 24 through 29.

00:53:25.759 --> 00:53:27.219
 How is Thomas transformed

00:53:27.219 --> 00:53:28.279
 by his encounter?

00:53:37.279 --> 00:53:38.339
 He's humbled.

00:53:39.019 --> 00:53:39.500
 Mm-hmm.

00:53:39.759 --> 00:53:40.359
 Just a little.

00:53:42.259 --> 00:53:43.019
 What's that, Frankie?

00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:44.139
 I said just a little.

00:53:44.439 --> 00:53:45.279
 Just a little.

00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:45.720
 Yep.

00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:47.680
 It's interesting because

00:53:47.680 --> 00:53:48.920
 throughout the Gospels,

00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.680
 Jesus has these public

00:53:52.680 --> 00:53:54.240
 exchanges with the Pharisees

00:53:54.240 --> 00:53:55.519
 where they always

00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:56.240
 demand a sign

00:53:56.240 --> 00:53:58.240
 and he always refuses,

00:53:58.380 --> 00:53:59.000
 he never will give it

00:53:59.000 --> 00:53:59.700
 to them because if he

00:53:59.700 --> 00:54:00.740
 were to give it to them,

00:54:00.780 --> 00:54:01.720
 it would confirm

00:54:01.720 --> 00:54:02.300
 their delusion

00:54:02.300 --> 00:54:02.840
 that he's somehow

00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:03.680
 accountable to them.

00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:04.680
 Yep, yep, yep.

00:54:04.680 --> 00:54:05.200
 But then Thomas

00:54:05.200 --> 00:54:06.000
 demands a sign

00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:07.720
 and he appears to them.

00:54:08.340 --> 00:54:08.500
 Yeah.

00:54:09.580 --> 00:54:10.100
 It's interesting.

00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:10.920
 And yet,

00:54:11.080 --> 00:54:11.840
 it's interesting because

00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:13.060
 the one sign that Jesus

00:54:13.060 --> 00:54:13.840
 does for saying

00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:14.420
 that he'll do

00:54:14.420 --> 00:54:15.220
 is this.

00:54:15.220 --> 00:54:15.659
 Is this.

00:54:15.820 --> 00:54:16.619
 It's the resurrection,

00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:17.119
 right?

00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:17.880
 In John 2.

00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:18.440
 Yeah.

00:54:19.059 --> 00:54:19.460
 He says,

00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:20.780
 would they demand a sign

00:54:20.780 --> 00:54:21.760
 after he cleanses the temple?

00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:22.280
 He says,

00:54:23.019 --> 00:54:23.400
 no sign.

00:54:23.659 --> 00:54:25.099
 I'll destroy this temple

00:54:25.099 --> 00:54:25.780
 and I'll raise it open

00:54:25.780 --> 00:54:26.019
 for you.

00:54:26.139 --> 00:54:27.320
 Yep, yep, yep.

00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:28.280
 Or the sign of Jonah.

00:54:28.380 --> 00:54:29.099
 Would you even believe

00:54:29.099 --> 00:54:29.659
 the sign of Jonah?

00:54:29.659 --> 00:54:30.460
 Like, it's fascinating

00:54:30.460 --> 00:54:31.800
 how he actually threads

00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:32.340
 that in.

00:54:32.659 --> 00:54:33.700
 That the one sign

00:54:33.700 --> 00:54:34.539
 that he will give

00:54:34.539 --> 00:54:35.119
 for sure

00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:36.039
 is the resurrection.

00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:36.480
 Yeah.

00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:52.940
 So this one

00:54:52.940 --> 00:54:53.579
 isn't actually

00:54:53.579 --> 00:54:54.380
 rocket science,

00:54:54.500 --> 00:54:54.679
 right?

00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:56.759
 Verse 25,

00:54:56.980 --> 00:54:58.340
 I will never believe

00:54:58.340 --> 00:55:00.079
 to verse 27.

00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:03.319
 Do not disbelieve

00:55:03.319 --> 00:55:04.039
 but believe.

00:55:04.380 --> 00:55:05.360
 And Thomas answers him,

00:55:05.420 --> 00:55:06.420
 my Lord and my God.

00:55:06.739 --> 00:55:07.739
 Which is a confession

00:55:07.739 --> 00:55:08.219
 of faith.

00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:09.360
 It is a profession

00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:10.159
 of belief.

00:55:11.380 --> 00:55:12.779
 Thomas is classic

00:55:12.779 --> 00:55:13.799
 in his doubting.

00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:16.440
 We ought to recognize

00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:17.340
 that his doubting

00:55:17.340 --> 00:55:18.779
 is perfectly rational.

00:55:18.780 --> 00:55:23.340
 And if you hadn't seen it,

00:55:23.720 --> 00:55:25.160
 you'd think it was

00:55:25.160 --> 00:55:26.000
 a fairy tale too,

00:55:26.180 --> 00:55:26.440
 right?

00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:27.900
 Even though Jesus

00:55:27.900 --> 00:55:28.420
 had prepared,

00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.700
 nobody really expected that.

00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:31.440
 And that's part of

00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:32.480
 what John is telling him.

00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:34.160
 Nobody expected this

00:55:34.160 --> 00:55:34.860
 even though Jesus

00:55:34.860 --> 00:55:35.780
 had been saying it.

00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:37.720
 And so his post-resurrection

00:55:37.720 --> 00:55:39.340
 appearances are confirming

00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:40.480
 and spreading

00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:42.700
 clearly these encounters

00:55:42.700 --> 00:55:44.160
 to affirm

00:55:44.160 --> 00:55:45.060
 that his resurrection

00:55:45.060 --> 00:55:45.760
 was real.

00:55:46.240 --> 00:55:46.960
 And to,

00:55:47.160 --> 00:55:48.080
 as you see here,

00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:49.000
 this is why

00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:49.739
 John's statement

00:55:49.739 --> 00:55:50.539
 about the purpose

00:55:50.539 --> 00:55:51.199
 of this gospel

00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:52.360
 is so important,

00:55:52.500 --> 00:55:52.679
 right?

00:55:54.279 --> 00:55:56.179
 The apostle John

00:55:56.179 --> 00:55:56.799
 runs in,

00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:57.880
 he sees a linen cloth

00:55:57.880 --> 00:55:58.739
 and he believes.

00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:00.460
 Now here's the second person.

00:56:01.059 --> 00:56:01.719
 Thomas says,

00:56:01.900 --> 00:56:02.900
 unless I see him,

00:56:03.019 --> 00:56:03.739
 I don't believe.

00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:05.279
 Jesus appears,

00:56:05.420 --> 00:56:05.659
 says,

00:56:05.739 --> 00:56:06.360
 here I am.

00:56:06.799 --> 00:56:08.059
 And he believes,

00:56:08.420 --> 00:56:08.639
 right?

00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.179
 So we're seeing

00:56:10.179 --> 00:56:11.099
 what Jesus,

00:56:11.579 --> 00:56:12.340
 what John is saying

00:56:12.340 --> 00:56:13.880
 about the resurrected Christ

00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:15.159
 is what we're believing in

00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:16.119
 and he's actually

00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:16.960
 giving pictures

00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:17.440
 of people

00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:18.159
 who are actually

00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:18.820
 doing that.

00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:22.300
 And it's helpful

00:56:22.300 --> 00:56:23.519
 for us to see this.

00:56:24.820 --> 00:56:26.079
 I had a conversation

00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:28.039
 with a university student

00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:28.500
 who said,

00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:29.940
 I'm an agnostic.

00:56:31.420 --> 00:56:32.500
 I actually think

00:56:32.500 --> 00:56:33.599
 that existentialism

00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:34.800
 or maybe even nihilism

00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:35.740
 makes the most sense.

00:56:36.300 --> 00:56:37.340
 But some of my friends

00:56:37.340 --> 00:56:37.820
 are Christians,

00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:38.599
 so I'm here.

00:56:38.900 --> 00:56:39.039
 You know?

00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:39.720
 He says,

00:56:39.940 --> 00:56:40.860
 it seems like the resurrection

00:56:40.860 --> 00:56:41.639
 is a big deal.

00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.059
 You know,

00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:46.019
 I had to pull out

00:56:46.019 --> 00:56:46.940
 my two-minute answer

00:56:46.940 --> 00:56:47.420
 for her,

00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:48.739
 but what I said to her

00:56:48.739 --> 00:56:49.019
 was,

00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:49.359
 yeah,

00:56:50.059 --> 00:56:50.279
 like,

00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:51.039
 in fact,

00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:51.859
 it's everything.

00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:53.359
 Because every other religion

00:56:53.359 --> 00:56:54.299
 you've ever studied

00:56:54.299 --> 00:56:55.199
 is a philosophy

00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:56.839
 or it's a worldview.

00:56:57.179 --> 00:56:58.460
 It's a nice idea

00:56:58.460 --> 00:56:58.940
 about,

00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:00.259
 maybe it's a moral code

00:57:00.259 --> 00:57:01.539
 of how to live.

00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:03.159
 Uniquely,

00:57:03.279 --> 00:57:04.239
 Christianity says

00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:05.599
 that God intervened

00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:06.900
 in space-time history

00:57:06.900 --> 00:57:07.799
 in ways that are

00:57:07.799 --> 00:57:09.019
 historically verifiable.

00:57:09.019 --> 00:57:10.259
 And the resurrection

00:57:10.259 --> 00:57:11.059
 of the dead

00:57:11.059 --> 00:57:12.539
 is the linchpin of that.

00:57:12.860 --> 00:57:13.880
 Either Jesus rose

00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:14.380
 from the dead

00:57:14.380 --> 00:57:14.920
 or he didn't.

00:57:15.900 --> 00:57:16.639
 And if he didn't,

00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:17.420
 then we're fools.

00:57:17.579 --> 00:57:18.780
 The Bible even tells us that.

00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:19.880
 If he didn't rise

00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:20.280
 from the dead,

00:57:20.340 --> 00:57:21.340
 then it's all a fairy tale.

00:57:21.820 --> 00:57:22.320
 And, you know,

00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:23.559
 I might as well be inspired

00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:24.239
 by the Matrix

00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:25.259
 rather than this,

00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:25.659
 you know?

00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:32.480
 So.

00:57:34.059 --> 00:57:34.860
 Plus there are those

00:57:34.860 --> 00:57:35.579
 who have not seen

00:57:35.579 --> 00:57:36.300
 and have believed.

00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:37.360
 Yeah.

00:57:37.739 --> 00:57:38.800
 Isn't that an interesting

00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:39.240
 statement?

00:57:39.420 --> 00:57:39.940
 Why do you think

00:57:39.940 --> 00:57:40.780
 Jesus says that?

00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:43.820
 I think,

00:57:44.120 --> 00:57:44.440
 I don't know,

00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:45.260
 I read it just

00:57:45.260 --> 00:57:45.960
 in light of this

00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:47.320
 conversation

00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:47.860
 that we're having.

00:57:48.600 --> 00:57:49.180
 Yes, it's,

00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:49.820
 it's,

00:57:49.980 --> 00:57:50.640
 if you need to,

00:57:50.860 --> 00:57:51.800
 you can approach this

00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:52.300
 rationally

00:57:52.300 --> 00:57:52.960
 and try to rationally

00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:53.560
 think about it.

00:57:53.660 --> 00:57:54.600
 But, you know,

00:57:54.640 --> 00:57:55.060
 ultimately,

00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.140
 there is a,

00:57:58.440 --> 00:57:58.720
 there is,

00:57:58.940 --> 00:57:59.780
 God is up there,

00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:00.080
 right?

00:58:00.340 --> 00:58:00.480
 And,

00:58:01.240 --> 00:58:01.920
 yep,

00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:02.539
 yep.

00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:04.080
 Blessed are you

00:58:04.080 --> 00:58:06.420
 who give him

00:58:06.420 --> 00:58:07.220
 fully your trust

00:58:07.220 --> 00:58:07.980
 without needing this,

00:58:08.080 --> 00:58:08.480
 like, you know,

00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:09.500
 this intense,

00:58:10.059 --> 00:58:11.380
 rational confirmation

00:58:11.380 --> 00:58:11.780
 of that.

00:58:11.980 --> 00:58:12.199
 Yeah.

00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:13.300
 Yeah.

00:58:13.980 --> 00:58:14.340
 Yeah.

00:58:14.980 --> 00:58:16.219
 And I think it's also

00:58:16.219 --> 00:58:17.679
 laying a foundation stone

00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:18.500
 for the fact that

00:58:18.500 --> 00:58:19.320
 most of the church

00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:20.659
 won't see the risen Christ.

00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:22.159
 Bodily.

00:58:22.900 --> 00:58:23.119
 Right?

00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:23.719
 Most,

00:58:24.099 --> 00:58:24.960
 we haven't,

00:58:25.059 --> 00:58:25.559
 I don't think,

00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:26.139
 maybe,

00:58:26.420 --> 00:58:27.579
 maybe some of you

00:58:27.579 --> 00:58:28.679
 had some vision

00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:29.420
 I didn't know about,

00:58:29.500 --> 00:58:29.639
 but,

00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:32.360
 the church throughout history

00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:34.099
 is those who have not seen

00:58:34.099 --> 00:58:35.099
 and have yet believed.

00:58:35.099 --> 00:58:37.880
 and the people of God

00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:38.259
 in,

00:58:38.860 --> 00:58:39.960
 that are produced

00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:41.299
 by the risen Christ

00:58:41.299 --> 00:58:41.940
 are those

00:58:41.940 --> 00:58:44.079
 almost,

00:58:44.819 --> 00:58:45.139
 you know,

00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:47.139
 there's an infinitesimally

00:58:47.139 --> 00:58:48.199
 small percentage of them

00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:48.900
 who have actually seen

00:58:48.900 --> 00:58:49.559
 the risen Christ.

00:58:50.500 --> 00:58:51.719
 Most of us have not.

00:58:52.059 --> 00:58:53.239
 And I think Jesus is saying,

00:58:53.659 --> 00:58:54.279
 this is what,

00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:55.759
 this is where this is going.

00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:56.819
 You are going to go

00:58:56.819 --> 00:58:57.539
 and proclaim

00:58:57.539 --> 00:58:58.920
 the risen Christ

00:58:58.920 --> 00:58:59.440
 to people

00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.000
 and it will be enough

00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:02.420
 for you to proclaim that.

00:59:02.420 --> 00:59:04.599
 they don't have to see me

00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:05.079
 to believe.

00:59:05.500 --> 00:59:06.260
 They have to know

00:59:06.260 --> 00:59:07.360
 that someone see me.

00:59:08.019 --> 00:59:08.940
 But they don't have to,

00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:10.420
 they don't have to see me

00:59:10.420 --> 00:59:10.940
 to believe.

00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:11.900
 Yeah,

00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:12.559
 what are you wrestling with?

00:59:12.579 --> 00:59:12.700
 Well,

00:59:12.780 --> 00:59:13.840
 I'm not wrestling actually,

00:59:13.940 --> 00:59:15.240
 I'm just thinking of the delicious

00:59:15.240 --> 00:59:16.619
 or sort of rich,

00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:18.659
 if it's not irony,

00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:19.380
 it's,

00:59:19.860 --> 00:59:20.980
 but here's this man

00:59:20.980 --> 00:59:23.260
 and because of him,

00:59:24.260 --> 00:59:25.039
 it's like Jesus is

00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:26.360
 condescending to this man,

00:59:26.579 --> 00:59:27.159
 obviously.

00:59:27.420 --> 00:59:27.700
 Right.

00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:28.099
 Right.

00:59:28.240 --> 00:59:29.579
 Like the God of the universe

00:59:29.579 --> 00:59:32.219
 is going to allow

00:59:32.219 --> 00:59:33.219
 that someone says,

00:59:33.319 --> 00:59:33.960
 I'm not believing

00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:35.059
 until you prove it.

00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:35.519
 Yeah.

00:59:35.619 --> 00:59:37.299
 And so he condescends in love

00:59:37.299 --> 00:59:38.420
 and he does prove it.

00:59:38.579 --> 00:59:38.779
 Yeah.

00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.019
 But yet we're watching this scene

00:59:41.019 --> 00:59:41.920
 as readers

00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:43.900
 and so it,

00:59:43.980 --> 00:59:45.079
 it helps us,

00:59:45.179 --> 00:59:46.239
 it enriches us

00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:46.699
 so this,

00:59:47.059 --> 00:59:48.159
 so it's almost like we're,

00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:49.980
 because it's funny,

00:59:50.059 --> 00:59:50.299
 you know,

00:59:50.460 --> 00:59:51.539
 as we've been reading along

00:59:51.539 --> 00:59:52.440
 and trying to picture

00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.099
 the scenes

00:59:54.099 --> 00:59:55.019
 and I'm picturing

00:59:55.019 --> 00:59:56.159
 this Jewish man

00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:58.059
 looking at

00:59:58.059 --> 00:59:59.719
 at least what appears

00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:01.119
 to be another human being

01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:02.500
 and calling him God

01:00:02.500 --> 01:00:05.539
 and how insane that is.

01:00:05.799 --> 01:00:05.879
 Like,

01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:06.839
 how,

01:00:07.399 --> 01:00:08.119
 we don't,

01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:08.759
 I think,

01:00:08.879 --> 01:00:09.940
 feel how insane

01:00:09.940 --> 01:00:10.480
 and crazy

01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:11.359
 and he's basically

01:00:11.359 --> 01:00:12.460
 abandoning his whole

01:00:12.460 --> 01:00:13.259
 extended family.

01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:13.679
 He's a,

01:00:14.059 --> 01:00:14.480
 he's,

01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.960
 he's turning

01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:19.099
 to,

01:00:19.739 --> 01:00:20.799
 and,

01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:22.659
 but we get to witness

01:00:22.659 --> 01:00:23.819
 that through his,

01:00:23.820 --> 01:00:26.780
 so Jesus is saying,

01:00:26.860 --> 01:00:27.100
 blessed,

01:00:27.640 --> 01:00:30.500
 it's just kind of profound

01:00:30.500 --> 01:00:32.760
 how God is even going to turn

01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:33.760
 this man's weakness

01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:35.480
 and turn him into a witness

01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.160
 to countless millions of people

01:00:37.160 --> 01:00:39.600
 who are going to read this

01:00:39.600 --> 01:00:40.720
 and it's going to help us

01:00:40.720 --> 01:00:42.100
 because I know it helps me.

01:00:42.580 --> 01:00:42.700
 Yeah.

01:00:43.100 --> 01:00:43.500
 It,

01:00:43.500 --> 01:00:45.140
 it helps me see

01:00:45.140 --> 01:00:47.840
 Jesus' love for us

01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:48.500
 that

01:00:48.500 --> 01:00:50.260
 even,

01:00:51.300 --> 01:00:51.740
 I mean,

01:00:51.739 --> 01:00:52.500
 how many of us

01:00:52.500 --> 01:00:53.779
 have harbored doubts,

01:00:53.899 --> 01:00:54.179
 you know,

01:00:54.279 --> 01:00:54.859
 in our hearts

01:00:54.859 --> 01:00:55.179
 that are,

01:00:55.259 --> 01:00:56.319
 that are outrageously

01:00:56.319 --> 01:00:57.039
 disrespectful

01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:57.719
 and sat,

01:00:57.859 --> 01:00:58.839
 and that God

01:00:58.839 --> 01:00:59.479
 had every right

01:00:59.479 --> 01:01:00.459
 to just snuff us out

01:01:00.459 --> 01:01:01.159
 just because we even

01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:01.839
 had the thought,

01:01:02.059 --> 01:01:02.379
 you know,

01:01:02.500 --> 01:01:03.159
 but yet

01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:05.059
 he comes and,

01:01:05.059 --> 01:01:06.159
 and he says,

01:01:06.819 --> 01:01:07.719
 and he condescends

01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:09.179
 and he bears with us

01:01:09.179 --> 01:01:09.599
 and,

01:01:09.979 --> 01:01:10.319
 I don't know,

01:01:10.379 --> 01:01:10.719
 it's just,

01:01:11.059 --> 01:01:12.079
 it's so rich

01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:12.819
 and so beautiful

01:01:12.819 --> 01:01:13.219
 and,

01:01:13.479 --> 01:01:13.599
 yeah,

01:01:14.019 --> 01:01:14.239
 yeah,

01:01:14.399 --> 01:01:15.199
 and it's interesting,

01:01:15.319 --> 01:01:16.359
 Carson actually argues

01:01:16.359 --> 01:01:17.039
 that he thinks

01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:17.459
 if,

01:01:17.579 --> 01:01:19.979
 if John has a target audience

01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:20.699
 and a purpose,

01:01:21.619 --> 01:01:22.880
 he thinks the best way

01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:23.920
 to try to put that together

01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:24.519
 is actually

01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:25.860
 that John is writing

01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:26.719
 an apologetic

01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:28.159
 to diaspora Jews,

01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:30.119
 so Jews not who live

01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:30.740
 in Jerusalem,

01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:32.260
 but Jews who are spread out

01:01:32.260 --> 01:01:33.740
 throughout the Roman Empire,

01:01:33.980 --> 01:01:35.159
 and they're the ones

01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:35.940
 who wouldn't have known

01:01:35.940 --> 01:01:37.219
 someone who saw Jesus

01:01:37.219 --> 01:01:37.699
 in,

01:01:37.780 --> 01:01:38.800
 in Jerusalem.

01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:40.079
 They're people who would

01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:40.940
 have been spread out

01:01:40.940 --> 01:01:41.599
 and who have,

01:01:41.980 --> 01:01:42.440
 who would have,

01:01:43.219 --> 01:01:44.300
 and so there's an interesting,

01:01:44.460 --> 01:01:44.719
 you know,

01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:46.039
 the intermediary step

01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:47.539
 of if John is writing

01:01:47.539 --> 01:01:49.460
 to those Jewish men

01:01:49.460 --> 01:01:50.400
 and women saying,

01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:52.019
 he really is a Christ,

01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:53.440
 and here's one of your own

01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:54.820
 who's looking at another

01:01:54.820 --> 01:01:55.699
 human being saying,

01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:56.840
 my Lord and my God,

01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:00.480
 which is a pretty profoundly

01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.920
 remarkable thing to say,

01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:05.900
 because he saw

01:02:05.900 --> 01:02:07.420
 the resurrected Christ,

01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:08.380
 and these other people

01:02:08.380 --> 01:02:09.840
 in Ephesus and Rome

01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:10.139
 and,

01:02:10.139 --> 01:02:10.820
 and,

01:02:10.820 --> 01:02:11.259
 you know,

01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:12.759
 Carthage and whatever,

01:02:12.980 --> 01:02:14.500
 they're hearing these accounts,

01:02:14.860 --> 01:02:16.420
 they're hearing these stories,

01:02:16.420 --> 01:02:17.019
 and,

01:02:17.019 --> 01:02:18.099
 and they're being called

01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:19.619
 to believe in that same Jesus

01:02:19.619 --> 01:02:21.500
 on the basis of these

01:02:21.500 --> 01:02:22.599
 eyewitness accounts,

01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.159
 and that by believing,

01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:26.980
 you might have life

01:02:26.980 --> 01:02:27.639
 in his name,

01:02:27.820 --> 01:02:29.099
 that this life that comes

01:02:29.099 --> 01:02:31.539
 to us is freeing us,

01:02:31.740 --> 01:02:34.019
 freeing us

01:02:34.019 --> 01:02:36.079
 by meeting us

01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:36.760
 in our doubts

01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:38.320
 and drawing us gently

01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:39.659
 towards this life

01:02:39.659 --> 01:02:40.360
 that we are able

01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:41.500
 to have with him.

01:02:41.500 --> 01:02:41.539
 Amen.

01:02:46.420 --> 01:02:52.000
 All right,

01:02:52.139 --> 01:02:52.440
 I think,

01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:53.519
 I think we have like

01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:54.440
 two minutes.

01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:56.780
 Peter's a big story

01:02:56.780 --> 01:02:57.880
 in 21.

01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:00.039
 There's a lot going on in it,

01:03:00.500 --> 01:03:01.740
 but,

01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:02.720
 briefly,

01:03:02.980 --> 01:03:03.599
 how would you,

01:03:03.700 --> 01:03:04.599
 how would you try

01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:05.159
 to summarize

01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:08.039
 how is Peter

01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:08.840
 transformed

01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:09.840
 by his encounter

01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:10.780
 with the risen Christ?

01:03:10.780 --> 01:03:13.840
 And again,

01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:14.500
 you remember,

01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:15.780
 just to make sure

01:03:15.780 --> 01:03:16.260
 we all remember,

01:03:16.720 --> 01:03:17.560
 Peter was the one

01:03:17.560 --> 01:03:17.920
 who,

01:03:18.500 --> 01:03:19.420
 at the Last Supper,

01:03:19.620 --> 01:03:19.920
 said,

01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:21.580
 I would die for you

01:03:21.580 --> 01:03:23.160
 before I let them

01:03:23.160 --> 01:03:24.060
 take you away.

01:03:25.060 --> 01:03:26.680
 I will never deny you.

01:03:26.860 --> 01:03:27.360
 And then,

01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:28.800
 within hours,

01:03:29.060 --> 01:03:29.440
 literally,

01:03:29.720 --> 01:03:30.640
 had turned around

01:03:30.640 --> 01:03:31.380
 and said,

01:03:31.700 --> 01:03:32.660
 I'm not with him,

01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:33.960
 I don't know the man,

01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:37.340
 that he had disavowed

01:03:37.340 --> 01:03:38.099
 any connection

01:03:38.099 --> 01:03:38.940
 with Jesus

01:03:38.940 --> 01:03:41.420
 in order to save

01:03:41.420 --> 01:03:42.099
 his own skin

01:03:42.099 --> 01:03:43.740
 and out of fear.

01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:45.880
 And so,

01:03:46.260 --> 01:03:47.380
 it was this Peter

01:03:47.380 --> 01:03:48.440
 who then

01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.619
 is being met

01:03:50.619 --> 01:03:51.199
 on the beach.

01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:52.659
 So,

01:03:53.579 --> 01:03:55.220
 yeah.

01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:58.039
 I think that that Peter

01:03:58.039 --> 01:03:58.659
 is,

01:04:00.139 --> 01:04:03.480
 before the crucifixion,

01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:04.780
 those words were empty

01:04:04.780 --> 01:04:05.579
 and now those words

01:04:05.579 --> 01:04:06.320
 are true.

01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:08.000
 That's how he's transformed.

01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:09.119
 So,

01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:09.619
 now when he,

01:04:09.940 --> 01:04:10.800
 if he were to say

01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:12.320
 the same thing,

01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:13.460
 I would rather

01:04:13.460 --> 01:04:16.440
 die before I would

01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:16.860
 deny you,

01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:17.619
 it actually becomes

01:04:17.619 --> 01:04:17.880
 true,

01:04:17.940 --> 01:04:18.079
 right?

01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:18.820
 And John

01:04:18.820 --> 01:04:19.980
 hints to this,

01:04:20.300 --> 01:04:21.019
 which is the tradition

01:04:21.019 --> 01:04:22.440
 that Peter is crucified.

01:04:23.659 --> 01:04:24.519
 This is to show

01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:25.039
 by what kind of

01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:25.900
 death he was to work.

01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:29.300
 And by tradition,

01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:29.820
 he was actually

01:04:29.820 --> 01:04:30.960
 crucified upside down

01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:31.920
 because he refused

01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:33.179
 to be crucified

01:04:33.179 --> 01:04:33.879
 in the manner

01:04:33.879 --> 01:04:34.399
 that Jesus

01:04:34.399 --> 01:04:35.539
 was crucified.

01:04:36.419 --> 01:04:37.319
 But that he did

01:04:37.319 --> 01:04:38.339
 die a similar death.

01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:38.659
 Yeah.

01:04:39.379 --> 01:04:39.599
 Yeah.

01:04:39.839 --> 01:04:40.079
 No,

01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:40.339
 I mean,

01:04:40.339 --> 01:04:40.980
 I think that's right.

01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:41.699
 That's part of the

01:04:41.699 --> 01:04:42.819
 transformation is

01:04:42.819 --> 01:04:43.819
 his,

01:04:44.819 --> 01:04:45.819
 you know,

01:04:45.899 --> 01:04:46.619
 in all we know

01:04:46.619 --> 01:04:47.299
 about Peter's

01:04:47.299 --> 01:04:48.659
 personality and temperament,

01:04:48.779 --> 01:04:49.879
 his impetuous,

01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:50.599
 fiery,

01:04:51.399 --> 01:04:52.259
 strong-headed,

01:04:52.260 --> 01:04:54.520
 but ultimately,

01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.000
 at empty,

01:04:56.560 --> 01:04:57.600
 sort of bravado

01:04:57.600 --> 01:04:59.160
 became actually

01:04:59.160 --> 01:05:01.180
 real courage

01:05:01.180 --> 01:05:02.620
 and real faith

01:05:02.620 --> 01:05:03.860
 and real substantive

01:05:03.860 --> 01:05:05.460
 commitment

01:05:05.460 --> 01:05:07.120
 to follow Christ.

01:05:07.120 --> 01:05:07.620
 Yeah.

01:05:14.780 --> 01:05:15.720
 Anything you guys

01:05:15.720 --> 01:05:16.380
 would add to that?

01:05:16.380 --> 01:05:27.660
 I mean,

01:05:27.720 --> 01:05:28.140
 obviously,

01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:30.400
 there's a

01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.599
 restoration story

01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:33.940
 here,

01:05:34.059 --> 01:05:34.920
 where he,

01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:36.340
 I mean,

01:05:36.740 --> 01:05:37.720
 the shame he must

01:05:37.720 --> 01:05:38.180
 have felt,

01:05:38.300 --> 01:05:38.500
 right,

01:05:38.579 --> 01:05:38.920
 and the,

01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:39.820
 and the,

01:05:40.160 --> 01:05:41.300
 and everyone's overjoyed

01:05:41.300 --> 01:05:42.140
 to see Jesus,

01:05:42.340 --> 01:05:42.500
 that,

01:05:42.660 --> 01:05:42.760
 oh,

01:05:42.820 --> 01:05:43.019
 wow,

01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:43.340
 you know,

01:05:43.340 --> 01:05:44.320
 Jesus is resurrected,

01:05:44.500 --> 01:05:45.740
 but maybe Peter's joy

01:05:45.740 --> 01:05:47.539
 was tainted with,

01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:48.120
 yeah,

01:05:48.180 --> 01:05:48.980
 but none of you

01:05:48.980 --> 01:05:49.660
 literally,

01:05:50.019 --> 01:05:50.380
 verbally,

01:05:51.640 --> 01:05:52.120
 you know,

01:05:52.200 --> 01:05:52.340
 he,

01:05:52.380 --> 01:05:53.340
 he had this weight

01:05:53.340 --> 01:05:54.420
 of shame and guilt.

01:05:54.780 --> 01:05:54.960
 Yeah.

01:05:55.180 --> 01:05:55.559
 And,

01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:57.039
 um,

01:05:58.420 --> 01:05:59.200
 and I think we,

01:05:59.240 --> 01:06:00.320
 we can all step in

01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:01.140
 and relate to that

01:06:01.140 --> 01:06:02.019
 because when we,

01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:03.700
 you know,

01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:04.600
 when we realize,

01:06:04.720 --> 01:06:05.720
 when God opens up

01:06:05.720 --> 01:06:06.480
 our hearts

01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:07.200
 to realize

01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:09.740
 how bad an offense

01:06:09.740 --> 01:06:10.440
 our sin is

01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.079
 against him,

01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:11.980
 you know,

01:06:12.059 --> 01:06:12.740
 we all have

01:06:12.739 --> 01:06:13.459
 to experience that,

01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:14.299
 I think that shame

01:06:14.299 --> 01:06:14.759
 and guilt.

01:06:14.959 --> 01:06:15.139
 Yeah.

01:06:15.279 --> 01:06:16.459
 And then the relief

01:06:16.459 --> 01:06:16.699
 of,

01:06:16.819 --> 01:06:18.599
 of God coming to us

01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:20.219
 by his spirit

01:06:20.219 --> 01:06:20.719
 and saying,

01:06:21.019 --> 01:06:22.439
 this is why I died.

01:06:22.879 --> 01:06:23.059
 Yeah.

01:06:23.139 --> 01:06:23.359
 You know,

01:06:23.479 --> 01:06:24.059
 this is,

01:06:24.339 --> 01:06:24.500
 yeah,

01:06:24.579 --> 01:06:25.239
 why I died

01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:27.759
 is to take the punishment

01:06:27.759 --> 01:06:28.179
 for,

01:06:28.339 --> 01:06:28.919
 for that.

01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:29.359
 Yeah.

01:06:29.419 --> 01:06:30.879
 And restore you,

01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:32.179
 and I love how he,

01:06:33.779 --> 01:06:34.759
 Peter's mission

01:06:34.759 --> 01:06:35.819
 is connected now.

01:06:35.979 --> 01:06:36.139
 Like,

01:06:36.500 --> 01:06:37.500
 have you ever had,

01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:37.979
 like,

01:06:38.139 --> 01:06:39.119
 a terrible season

01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:39.839
 of coldness

01:06:39.839 --> 01:06:40.319
 or been in,

01:06:40.319 --> 01:06:40.539
 like,

01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:41.039
 a valley,

01:06:41.319 --> 01:06:41.659
 you know,

01:06:41.659 --> 01:06:41.920
 and,

01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:43.239
 and you just feel like

01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:44.019
 I'm not fit

01:06:44.019 --> 01:06:45.199
 to even serve the Lord.

01:06:45.339 --> 01:06:45.460
 Like,

01:06:45.500 --> 01:06:46.619
 I'm not fit to do

01:06:46.619 --> 01:06:47.659
 what he's called me to do

01:06:47.659 --> 01:06:48.599
 because I'm filthy

01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:50.279
 and I,

01:06:50.359 --> 01:06:51.480
 I think there's a connection

01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:52.299
 there that we see.

01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:53.019
 Like,

01:06:53.099 --> 01:06:55.199
 not to tease it out

01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:55.659
 too far,

01:06:55.739 --> 01:06:56.819
 but it's like,

01:06:57.219 --> 01:06:58.059
 do you love me?

01:06:58.460 --> 01:06:58.779
 You're,

01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:00.099
 I'm restoring you

01:07:00.099 --> 01:07:00.839
 and I'm,

01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:01.559
 I'm beyond that,

01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:02.059
 I'm going to give you

01:07:02.059 --> 01:07:02.539
 a purpose

01:07:02.539 --> 01:07:03.219
 and it's going to be

01:07:03.219 --> 01:07:04.259
 a meaningful purpose.

01:07:04.259 --> 01:07:04.500
 Yeah.

01:07:04.500 --> 01:07:04.879
 Yeah.

01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:05.800
 And,

01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:07.760
 so,

01:07:08.260 --> 01:07:08.920
 I think all,

01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:09.720
 all that's kind of

01:07:09.720 --> 01:07:10.300
 going on.

01:07:10.500 --> 01:07:10.760
 Yeah.

01:07:11.019 --> 01:07:11.320
 No,

01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:12.519
 I think that's right.

01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:13.800
 Yeah.

01:07:14.300 --> 01:07:15.260
 And it's remarkable

01:07:15.260 --> 01:07:16.380
 that Jesus doesn't

01:07:16.380 --> 01:07:17.220
 just come to Peter

01:07:17.220 --> 01:07:17.720
 and say,

01:07:18.260 --> 01:07:19.360
 you blew it,

01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:19.780
 didn't you?

01:07:20.260 --> 01:07:21.260
 I forgive you.

01:07:22.099 --> 01:07:23.079
 I forgive you.

01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:25.000
 Like,

01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:25.800
 the restoration

01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:26.820
 is much greater

01:07:26.820 --> 01:07:27.280
 than that,

01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:27.700
 isn't it?

01:07:28.059 --> 01:07:28.940
 He's not saying,

01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:29.260
 hey,

01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:29.660
 let's,

01:07:29.660 --> 01:07:30.099
 let's,

01:07:30.099 --> 01:07:31.140
 let's let bygones

01:07:31.140 --> 01:07:31.980
 be bygones.

01:07:32.059 --> 01:07:32.880
 I rose from the dead.

01:07:32.940 --> 01:07:33.380
 It's okay.

01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:34.280
 You know?

01:07:34.579 --> 01:07:34.840
 I mean,

01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:37.820
 it went badly,

01:07:37.980 --> 01:07:38.579
 but it's okay.

01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:39.059
 You know?

01:07:39.139 --> 01:07:39.300
 Like,

01:07:39.340 --> 01:07:40.760
 that's how we humanly

01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:41.480
 would probably

01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:42.639
 want to deal with this.

01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:43.639
 And yet,

01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:44.199
 you see,

01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:45.260
 the restoration

01:07:45.260 --> 01:07:46.900
 of Peter

01:07:46.900 --> 01:07:48.920
 is not just to,

01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:50.559
 hey,

01:07:50.579 --> 01:07:50.780
 Peter,

01:07:50.860 --> 01:07:51.460
 we're okay.

01:07:51.940 --> 01:07:52.240
 Right?

01:07:52.460 --> 01:07:53.800
 But it's to more than that.

01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:54.340
 It's,

01:07:54.740 --> 01:07:54.940
 Peter,

01:07:54.940 --> 01:07:56.059
 I've told you,

01:07:56.240 --> 01:07:56.960
 I've called you

01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:57.699
 to follow me.

01:07:57.940 --> 01:07:58.980
 I've told you

01:07:58.980 --> 01:08:01.019
 that you are to be one

01:08:01.019 --> 01:08:02.099
 who,

01:08:02.780 --> 01:08:03.800
 by your profession

01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:05.440
 and by your apostleship

01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:06.759
 will establish my church.

01:08:07.940 --> 01:08:08.500
 And,

01:08:08.579 --> 01:08:09.360
 and,

01:08:09.900 --> 01:08:11.239
 and you blew that

01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:12.840
 spectacularly.

01:08:17.420 --> 01:08:18.880
 But you didn't lose it.

01:08:19.100 --> 01:08:20.399
 I'm going to bring you back.

01:08:21.060 --> 01:08:22.119
 He wasn't just saying,

01:08:22.260 --> 01:08:22.939
 did you sin?

01:08:23.340 --> 01:08:23.779
 Yes,

01:08:23.779 --> 01:08:24.180
 I sinned,

01:08:24.300 --> 01:08:24.460
 Lord.

01:08:24.619 --> 01:08:25.399
 I forgive you.

01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:26.439
 He said,

01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:28.079
 Peter,

01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:29.239
 feed my sheep.

01:08:29.699 --> 01:08:30.659
 Feed my sheep.

01:08:31.020 --> 01:08:32.340
 Feed my sheep.

01:08:33.440 --> 01:08:33.900
 Go,

01:08:34.360 --> 01:08:35.340
 go fulfill

01:08:35.340 --> 01:08:37.000
 what you've seen in me.

01:08:37.100 --> 01:08:38.280
 Go and live out.

01:08:39.740 --> 01:08:40.940
 Live for this purpose.

01:08:41.220 --> 01:08:42.480
 It's a remarkably

01:08:42.480 --> 01:08:44.580
 powerful picture

01:08:44.580 --> 01:08:46.420
 of restoration.

01:08:48.500 --> 01:08:49.800
 It's that it's not

01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:50.720
 minimalistic.

01:08:50.940 --> 01:08:51.860
 It's abundant

01:08:51.860 --> 01:08:53.820
 in its,

01:08:54.300 --> 01:08:54.680
 in it,

01:08:54.780 --> 01:08:55.340
 in the,

01:08:55.420 --> 01:08:55.860
 in what,

01:08:55.980 --> 01:08:57.900
 what he is restored to.

01:08:57.899 --> 01:09:00.239
 You know,

01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:00.519
 even,

01:09:00.679 --> 01:09:01.479
 even to the point

01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:02.099
 where he,

01:09:02.519 --> 01:09:02.960
 Peter goes,

01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:03.219
 well,

01:09:03.559 --> 01:09:03.819
 okay,

01:09:03.819 --> 01:09:04.579
 so I'm going to die

01:09:04.579 --> 01:09:04.899
 for you.

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:05.199
 Yeah,

01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:05.519
 that's great.

01:09:05.579 --> 01:09:05.799
 Okay,

01:09:05.879 --> 01:09:06.519
 what about him?

01:09:06.899 --> 01:09:07.420
 Is he going to do,

01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:08.339
 is he going to do it too?

01:09:08.340 --> 01:09:09.880
 And he's like,

01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:12.079
 don't pay any attention to him.

01:09:12.300 --> 01:09:12.900
 It doesn't matter.

01:09:13.140 --> 01:09:13.960
 It's not about him.

01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:14.619
 It's about you.

01:09:15.260 --> 01:09:16.760
 What I've done for you,

01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:18.000
 this is about you.

01:09:18.400 --> 01:09:19.880
 And he's going to do his own thing.

01:09:20.579 --> 01:09:20.739
 Right.

01:09:20.860 --> 01:09:21.119
 And oh,

01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:21.460
 by the way,

01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:22.840
 he's the one who's writing this book,

01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:24.699
 who's giving you all of his testimony

01:09:24.699 --> 01:09:26.440
 so that you would believe.

01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:28.239
 And he's telling you all this.

01:09:29.020 --> 01:09:30.199
 Great things about Jesus.

01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:35.099
 Like I said,

01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:37.019
 there's tons more for us to mine

01:09:37.019 --> 01:09:38.059
 out of that story.

01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.420
 But the bell is tolling.

01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:43.380
 So,

01:09:43.679 --> 01:09:45.939
 but when you think about John,

01:09:46.019 --> 01:09:46.579
 when you think about

01:09:46.579 --> 01:09:48.019
 what does John add

01:09:48.019 --> 01:09:49.559
 to the resurrection story,

01:09:50.019 --> 01:09:51.000
 there's some details

01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:52.319
 about the eyewitness account.

01:09:52.500 --> 01:09:53.539
 There's some particulars

01:09:53.539 --> 01:09:55.619
 about Jesus' resurrection body

01:09:55.619 --> 01:09:56.960
 that I just think are fascinating.

01:09:57.380 --> 01:09:58.840
 But I think the greatest way

01:09:58.840 --> 01:09:59.559
 is here,

01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:01.520
 where as we encounter

01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:02.940
 the resurrected Christ,

01:10:03.700 --> 01:10:05.620
 there's this transforming power

01:10:05.620 --> 01:10:06.680
 that Jesus has

01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:08.000
 to bring us from places

01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:09.039
 of weeping,

01:10:09.240 --> 01:10:09.539
 mourning,

01:10:09.820 --> 01:10:10.280
 despair,

01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:11.300
 doubt,

01:10:11.820 --> 01:10:12.580
 hopelessness,

01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:13.680
 condemnation,

01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:14.300
 and guilt.

01:10:14.860 --> 01:10:16.280
 The resurrected Christ,

01:10:16.460 --> 01:10:17.400
 because he's gone

01:10:17.400 --> 01:10:18.960
 through sin and death

01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:20.420
 and been raised again

01:10:20.420 --> 01:10:21.060
 to a new life,

01:10:21.160 --> 01:10:22.320
 he is able to take us

01:10:22.320 --> 01:10:23.560
 with him

01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:25.220
 out of those things

01:10:25.220 --> 01:10:27.060
 and that by believing in him,

01:10:27.380 --> 01:10:28.420
 we may have life

01:10:28.420 --> 01:10:29.739
 that is not characterized

01:10:29.739 --> 01:10:31.020
 by those things,

01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.159
 but by the things

01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:34.239
 of life with Jesus.

01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:36.340
 Which doesn't make it

01:10:36.340 --> 01:10:37.399
 all perfect now,

01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:39.300
 but it means that we live now

01:10:39.300 --> 01:10:39.859
 with hope

01:10:39.859 --> 01:10:40.739
 and with faith

01:10:40.739 --> 01:10:41.640
 and with love,

01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:42.859
 with the ability

01:10:42.859 --> 01:10:43.960
 to serve others

01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:44.819
 and to take up

01:10:44.819 --> 01:10:45.480
 this mission

01:10:45.480 --> 01:10:46.500
 that he's given us

01:10:46.500 --> 01:10:48.079
 to be his ambassadors

01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:48.560
 in the world,

01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:49.619
 to tell others

01:10:49.619 --> 01:10:52.800
 about a risen Savior

01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:56.380
 who died and rose

01:10:56.380 --> 01:10:57.979
 for the salvation

01:10:57.979 --> 01:10:58.979
 of people like us.

01:11:00.500 --> 01:11:01.640
 And that's a good word.

01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:02.420
 So,

01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:03.819
 all right,

01:11:03.939 --> 01:11:05.239
 let me close this in prayer.

01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:06.880
 Lord,

01:11:06.939 --> 01:11:08.059
 we do thank you for this

01:11:08.059 --> 01:11:08.720
 and we pray

01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:10.239
 for us

01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:12.340
 that these words

01:11:12.340 --> 01:11:13.979
 would inspire us

01:11:13.979 --> 01:11:15.199
 and strengthen our faith

01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:16.420
 that we might believe

01:11:16.420 --> 01:11:17.519
 more deeply

01:11:17.519 --> 01:11:18.380
 and fully

01:11:18.380 --> 01:11:20.979
 in the resurrected Christ.

01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:21.920
 Lord,

01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:22.639
 we pray as well

01:11:22.639 --> 01:11:23.739
 that we might be those

01:11:23.739 --> 01:11:24.059
 who,

01:11:24.380 --> 01:11:24.819
 like Mary

01:11:24.819 --> 01:11:26.460
 and like Thomas

01:11:26.460 --> 01:11:28.039
 and like Peter

01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:29.439
 and many other

01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.579
 of the early disciples,

01:11:32.300 --> 01:11:32.439
 Lord,

01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:33.460
 that we might have

01:11:33.460 --> 01:11:34.439
 our tongues loosed

01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:36.139
 to proclaim to others

01:11:36.139 --> 01:11:37.599
 that Jesus,

01:11:38.019 --> 01:11:39.220
 you are a risen Savior,

01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:40.699
 that you are alive

01:11:40.699 --> 01:11:41.699
 even today,

01:11:42.300 --> 01:11:43.260
 seated at the right hand

01:11:43.260 --> 01:11:43.880
 of the Father,

01:11:44.140 --> 01:11:44.500
 Lord,

01:11:44.539 --> 01:11:45.400
 that your Spirit

01:11:45.400 --> 01:11:46.060
 is at work

01:11:46.060 --> 01:11:47.680
 drawing men and women

01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:48.420
 to yourself

01:11:48.420 --> 01:11:49.380
 and that we have

01:11:49.380 --> 01:11:50.119
 the privilege

01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:51.579
 of telling them

01:11:51.579 --> 01:11:52.860
 about what you have

01:11:52.860 --> 01:11:53.619
 done for us.

01:11:54.440 --> 01:11:54.900
 Lord,

01:11:54.980 --> 01:11:55.960
 we pray these things

01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:56.680
 in Jesus' name.

01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:57.400
 Amen.

01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:01.260
 Thanks, guys.

01:12:02.619 --> 01:12:03.060
 Chairs.

01:12:04.860 --> 01:12:05.300
 Michelle,

01:12:05.380 --> 01:12:05.760
 what do we need

01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:06.500
 to do with chairs?

01:12:09.539 --> 01:12:10.720
 Can we leave these up

01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:11.780
 for Ethiopian church?

01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:12.159
 Yes,

01:12:12.260 --> 01:12:12.780
 that's fine.

01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:13.159
 Okay.

01:12:13.260 --> 01:12:14.420
 Good.

01:12:14.659 --> 01:12:15.440
 And whatever you want

01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:15.720
 to do.

01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:17.400
 Uh,

01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:17.900
 yeah,

01:12:18.100 --> 01:12:18.659
 I'm not...