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 Good morning, everyone.

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 It is great to be back after some annual leave,

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 particularly great to be back with the full team compliment back as well

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 after annual leave, and the Freestones are back after long service leave

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 since sometime in December, a while ago now.

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 And also summer camp last week was fantastic.

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 So thanks, Ash, for the update on that.

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 It was a huge time.

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 And if you were at summer camp last week,

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 then you'll notice that this passage was one of the passages that I preached on.

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 So that helped me as my preparation for this week.

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 But hopefully it'll remind you of a few things.

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 I want to launch in by praying because this is Vision Series.

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 Every year I'm excited about Vision Series.

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 I buy a new shirt for Vision Series every year.

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 I've been doing it for 13 years.

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 So I'm ready to kick off and look at where God's taking us in the next five years.

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 So let's pray and we'll launch into that.

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 Gracious God, we thank you for this opportunity for us as a church

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 to think about the things of where you might be leading us

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 because we're looking in the past and what you have commanded us to do.

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 Lord, we pray that throughout this term and even this day,

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 that you would captivate each one of our lives

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 so that we are more dusty from the dust of Jesus' feet.

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 And we ask it for your glory.

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 Amen.

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 So as I've indicated, this is a very important term for us at St. Paul's.

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 After closing out 11 years of Vision 2020,

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 at the end of last year,

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 we're launching into this new stage of ministry and life together

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 here at St. Paul's with Follow 25.

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 You've got a copy on your seats of Follow 25 in our strategic plan.

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 It's a shift in our ministry culture to the deliberate development of disciples,

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 all of life disciples of Jesus by the end of 2025.

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 And if one of the pages, you'll notice what is the big, hairy, audacious goal.

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 And that is for 65%, it's towards the back of it,

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 65% of St. Paul's identifying much growth in faith through this church.

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 It is my understanding that no church can do that

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 or has done that or is currently doing that.

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 So that's why it's a big, hairy, audacious goal.

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 And if there are a very small number of churches

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 that are deliberately developing disciples in that kind of way,

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 certainly in the Western world,

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 that's our big, hairy, audacious goal,

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 which means this plan is not just,

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 well, let's just work a bit harder what we're already doing.

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 Every vision, every ministry strategy means there must be some form of change

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 in the way we behave.

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 And so this one here is no different.

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 Whatever stage of the journey you are on with Jesus right now,

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 whether you are a not yet follower of Jesus

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 through to someone who has been a lifelong follower of Jesus,

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 our goal here is for the vast majority of us

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 being able to self-identify

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 that I am moving forward and grasping more of Jesus

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 as he's grasping more of me.

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 So in our preaching this term,

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 we're taking a sweeping look at Christian discipleship.

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 Things like it's the foundation of it,

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 the resources for it,

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 and what it looks like in practice.

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 We're going to refine the strategic plan

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 and commit to it by the end of the term.

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 We're going to pledge our resources to seeing it realized.

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 There's a raise a bunch of money

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 by the end of the term to see discipleship

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 amongst our next generation flourish

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 and just a range of other stuff.

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 So today we're looking at the key foundation

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 of Christian discipleship.

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 And if you've got the St. Paul's app in front of you,

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 I want to encourage you to open that up

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 and follow along with the outline.

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 There's really two main points here

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 for us to see that being a Christian,

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 being a disciple,

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 means that we are following the Lord

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 and secondly,

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 we are following the crucified Lord.

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 So following the Lord first of all.

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 The word disciple

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 used in Christian circles nowadays mainly

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 is a word that was not coined by Jesus himself.

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 It's not a uniquely Christian term.

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 John the Baptist had disciples,

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 Pharisees had the disciples,

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 Greek philosophers had their disciples,

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 Jewish rabbis had their disciples.

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 It was common word in Greek and Roman empires.

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 And the word disciple literally means

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 to be a student,

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 to be a learner.

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 That's its core meaning.

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 In the Jewish context,

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 a disciple would take the posture

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 of sitting and learning from their teacher,

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 sitting at the feet of their teacher

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 and learning from them,

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 not just a set of doctrines,

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 but all of life.

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 But also,

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 that disciple would follow closely

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 as they watched their teacher

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 live all of life.

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 And so the saying

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 that a disciple should become dusty

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 with the dust of their rabbi

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 was a Jewish saying

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 in the first century.

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 That is,

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 they are to follow them so closely

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 in all of life

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 that they would be covered in the dust

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 stirred up from the feet of their teacher

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 as they walked.

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 Now,

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 one notable thing

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 about the disciple-teacher relationship

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 in Jewish tradition

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 is that the disciples chose their teacher.

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 Disciples chose their rabbis.

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 The Christian, however,

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 is chosen and called by Jesus.

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 From the moment his public ministry commenced,

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 Jesus called disciples

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 to leave everything,

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 your family,

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 your fishing nets,

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 and follow me.

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 And from those early,

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 early disciples,

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 those fishermen,

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 tax collectors,

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 he has changed the world.

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 And he continues

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 to call people

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 from every tribe,

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 language,

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 nation,

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 and people

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 to follow him today.

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 So who is it

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 that has the authority

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 to call people

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 to leave everything

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 and fully align themselves

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 to him?

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 Who is it

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 that the Christian follows?

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 That's the question.

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 That's the question

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 posed in front of us

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 in Mark 8.

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 Who do you say I am

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 is the question

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 that Jesus asked

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 his closest followers.

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 But before he asked

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 that question,

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 he asked them another question.

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 Who do

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 others

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 say I am?

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 What's the general consensus

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 out there

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 about who I am?

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 Jesus of Nazareth,

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 Jesus the Christ,

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 is undoubtedly

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 the most popular,

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 the most recognized,

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 the most quoted,

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 the most admired,

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 and the most controversial figure

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 in all of the history

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 of humanity

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 and human society.

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 No other person

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 has been more scrutinized,

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 more studied

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 than Jesus of Nazareth,

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 ever.

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 No one.

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 Entire philosophies

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 and religions

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 have been founded

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 on his teaching.

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 More books

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 have been written

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 about him

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 than any other person

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 who has ever lived.

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 Every day,

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 his name

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 is spoken

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 more than any other name

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 from affectionate

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 admiration

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 to absent-minded

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 curses

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 and denouncements.

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 The large figures

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 of history

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 have had to

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 acknowledge him.

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 John Lennon

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 couldn't think

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 of anything

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 bigger

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 when he said

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 at the height

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 of their fame

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 that the Beatles

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 were bigger than Jesus.

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 He couldn't think

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 of anything else

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 to name.

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 President George W. Bush

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 cited Jesus

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 as his favorite philosopher.

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 The French Emperor

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 Napoleon Bonaparte

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 said,

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 Alexander,

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 Caesar,

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 Charlemagne

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 and myself

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 founded empires,

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 but on what foundation

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 did they rest

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 the creations

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 of our genius?

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 Upon force,

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 Jesus Christ

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 founded an empire

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 upon love

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 and this hour

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 millions of men

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 would die for him.

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 The Cuban

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 communist dictator

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 Fidel Castro

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 said,

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 I never saw

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 a contradiction

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 between the ideas

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 that sustain me

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 and the ideas

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 that symbol

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 of that

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 extraordinary figure

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 Jesus Christ.

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 No message

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 has been more

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 used

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 and exploited

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 than Jesus Christ.

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 Politicians

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 grab from him

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 quotable quotes

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 to prop up

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 their political platform.

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 Every religion

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 in the world

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 too,

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 Christian or not,

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 has to factor

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 to some degree

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 an appraisal

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 of Jesus himself.

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 It might be

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 to honor him

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 as one of God's

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 great prophets

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 or an enlightened man

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 or to reject him

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 as a fraud

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 or to hail him

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 as the king of kings

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 and the savior

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 of the world.

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 No person

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 is more misunderstood,

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 marginalized

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 and commercialized

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 than Jesus Christ.

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 He's been fictionalized

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 by the last temptation

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 of Christ,

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 humanized by the passion

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 of the Christ

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 and he's been

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 satirized by the Simpsons

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 and South Park.

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 Even the Christian church

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 is guilty

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 of marketing Jesus

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 as we have put

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 our own spit

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 on him.

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 He is viewed

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 as either a stern

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 taskmaster

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 or as a moral jellyfish

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 willing to hand

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 our forgiveness

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 and turn a blind eye

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 to anyone

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 who prays a shallow

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 prayer of confession

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 only to live lives

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 devoid of his presence.

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 Get Jesus wrong,

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 you get discipleship wrong.

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 It is incomprehensible

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 to me

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 that Fidel Castro

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 saw no contradiction

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 between his life

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 and the life of Jesus

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 except

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 that he has put

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 a spin on Jesus

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 that is not true.

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 He has not engaged

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 to the true Jesus Christ.

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 Who is Jesus?

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 What did he do

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 and what does it mean

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 to follow him?

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 How do we live

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 as committed disciples

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 of Jesus today?

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 Those are the sorts

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 of questions

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 we're delving into

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 over this term.

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 Now Mark

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 does not want us

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 to be vague

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 about the Christian faith.

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 He longs

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 that we get

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 an accurate picture

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 of who Jesus is

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 and what he came

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 to do

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 and chapter 8

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 is the pivotal chapter

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 in this gospel.

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 The disciples

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 finally begin

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 to see

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 who Jesus

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 actually is

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 and in verse 25

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 Peter answers

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 the big question

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 of the identity

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 of Jesus.

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 You're the Christ.

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 Peter is using

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 a word

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 that literally means

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 you are

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 the anointed one.

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 The anointed one,

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 the Messiah,

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 the king

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 to end

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 all kings,

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 the king

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 who will put

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 everything right

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 in this world

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 that has gone wrong

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 and when Peter

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 says that

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 Jesus accepts

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 the title.

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 That is

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 Jesus does not

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 call people

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 to be curious

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 onlookers.

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 Can I say

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 that he doesn't

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 even call people

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 to be converts?

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 He calls them

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 to be disciples.

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 He calls them

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 to be fully

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 committed followers

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 and the name

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 gives it away

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 Christian.

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 The term

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 was first used

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 in the city

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 of Antioch

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 in Acts chapter 11.

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 It's part Greek

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 part Latin.

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 It means

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 followers

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 of the Christ.

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 Christ.

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 For the early

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 Christians

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 Christ was so

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 much on the

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 lips of these

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 believers

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 and they lived

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 so like Christ

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 that the pagan

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 city of Antioch

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 said

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 there's no

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 other name

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 but to call

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 them

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 of the name

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 Christ.

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 No other name

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 would do.

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 Christian,

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 disciple,

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 follower,

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 they're all

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 interchangeable words

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 to describe

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 a relationship

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 with Jesus

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 Christ

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 in such

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 a way

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 that he

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 is your

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 Lord

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 and he

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 shapes

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 and impacts

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 every

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 corner

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 of your

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 existence.

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 And so

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 discipleship

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 speaks of a

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 lifelong journey

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 of following

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 Jesus,

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 100%

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 dedication

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 to him

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 where he

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 shapes

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 every

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 aspect of

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 you

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 into

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 his

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 image.

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 However,

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 the one

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 thing that

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 comes out

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 of Jesus'

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 mouth

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 that Peter

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 and he's

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 a spokesman

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 for the

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 disciples

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 that they

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 find appalling

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 and shocking.

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 Take a look

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 at it with

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 me.

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 Mark 8

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 verse 31.

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 He then

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 began to

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 teach them

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 that the

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 Son of

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 Man must

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 suffer many

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 things

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 and be

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 rejected by

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 the elders,

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 the chief

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 priests and

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 the teacher

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 of the law

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 and that

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 he must

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 be killed

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 and after

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 three days

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 rise again.

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 He spoke

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 plainly about

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 this and

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 Peter took

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 him aside

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 and began

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 to rebuke

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 him.

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 Jesus says

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 here,

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 the Son of

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 Man must

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 suffer.

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 He picks

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 up the

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 title,

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 the Son of

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 Man,

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 from Daniel

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 chapter 7

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 in the Old

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 Testament.

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 The Son of

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 Man is a

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 divine

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 Messiah figure

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 who comes

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 with the

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 angels to

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 put everything

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 right that

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 is wrong

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 in this

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 world.

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 The

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 Messiah

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 suffering,

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 however,

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 to the

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 disciples

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 makes no

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 sense at

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 all.

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 The

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 Messiah was

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 supposed to

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 defeat

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 evil,

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 was supposed

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 to beat

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 injustice and

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 make everything

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 right in the

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 world.

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 How could a

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 Messiah

00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.379
 defeat evil

00:15:41.379 --> 00:15:43.099
 by suffering,

00:15:43.659 --> 00:15:44.679
 by dying?

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 How could

00:15:45.019 --> 00:15:45.519
 he do that?

00:15:47.219 --> 00:15:47.620
 Jesus

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 is explicit.

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 he is

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 planning to

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 die,

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 not merely

00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:53.480
 predicting that

00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:53.919
 he would

00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:54.379
 die.

00:15:55.740 --> 00:15:57.000
 This is a

00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:57.919
 voluntary act

00:15:57.919 --> 00:15:58.699
 on his

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 behalf.

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 Peter is

00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:01.600
 offended at

00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:01.959
 this.

00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:02.860
 It is one

00:16:02.860 --> 00:16:03.299
 thing for

00:16:03.299 --> 00:16:03.819
 Jesus to

00:16:03.819 --> 00:16:04.039
 say,

00:16:04.299 --> 00:16:04.559
 I'm going

00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:04.919
 to take

00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:05.439
 up and

00:16:05.439 --> 00:16:05.659
 I'm going

00:16:05.659 --> 00:16:06.240
 to fight

00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:07.199
 this fight,

00:16:07.319 --> 00:16:07.620
 the good

00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:08.019
 fight,

00:16:08.179 --> 00:16:08.620
 but I

00:16:08.620 --> 00:16:09.000
 will be

00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:09.480
 defeated

00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:11.899
 and die.

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 And it's

00:16:12.860 --> 00:16:13.360
 a total

00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:14.100
 another thing

00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:14.679
 to say that

00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:15.120
 in fact the

00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:16.220
 very reason I

00:16:16.220 --> 00:16:17.620
 came is to

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 die.

00:16:19.539 --> 00:16:19.860
 And the

00:16:19.860 --> 00:16:20.419
 moment he

00:16:20.419 --> 00:16:21.399
 says that,

00:16:22.060 --> 00:16:22.840
 Peter begins

00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:23.779
 to condemn

00:16:23.779 --> 00:16:25.419
 Jesus in

00:16:25.419 --> 00:16:26.419
 the strongest

00:16:26.419 --> 00:16:27.500
 possible terms.

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 You see,

00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:28.340
 ever since

00:16:28.340 --> 00:16:29.320
 Peter was a

00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:30.179
 wee lad in

00:16:30.179 --> 00:16:30.639
 nappies,

00:16:31.460 --> 00:16:33.139
 he was told

00:16:33.139 --> 00:16:33.879
 that the

00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:34.620
 Messiah would

00:16:34.620 --> 00:16:35.080
 come,

00:16:36.060 --> 00:16:36.360
 he would

00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:37.379
 defeat evil

00:16:37.379 --> 00:16:38.120
 and injustice

00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:39.060
 and ascend the

00:16:39.060 --> 00:16:39.539
 throne in

00:16:39.539 --> 00:16:40.539
 Jerusalem and

00:16:40.539 --> 00:16:41.639
 to restore the

00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:42.060
 nation of

00:16:42.060 --> 00:16:42.779
 Israel to

00:16:42.779 --> 00:16:43.879
 its heights.

00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:43.980
 hearts.

00:16:45.980 --> 00:16:46.539
 And here we

00:16:46.539 --> 00:16:47.019
 have Jesus

00:16:47.019 --> 00:16:47.700
 saying that I

00:16:47.700 --> 00:16:48.399
 am that one,

00:16:48.460 --> 00:16:48.919
 I am the

00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:49.259
 Messiah,

00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:49.799
 I am the

00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:50.240
 king to

00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:50.659
 end all

00:16:50.659 --> 00:16:51.039
 kings,

00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:51.659
 but I

00:16:51.659 --> 00:16:51.939
 have not

00:16:51.939 --> 00:16:52.379
 come to

00:16:52.379 --> 00:16:53.840
 live and

00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:54.860
 rule and

00:16:54.860 --> 00:16:55.379
 reign,

00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:56.200
 but I've

00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:57.259
 come to

00:16:57.259 --> 00:16:57.620
 die.

00:16:58.019 --> 00:16:59.259
 I have not

00:16:59.259 --> 00:16:59.720
 come to

00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:00.360
 take power,

00:17:00.460 --> 00:17:00.740
 but to

00:17:00.740 --> 00:17:01.259
 lose it.

00:17:03.259 --> 00:17:03.899
 I've not

00:17:03.899 --> 00:17:04.299
 come to

00:17:04.299 --> 00:17:04.700
 rule,

00:17:05.740 --> 00:17:06.420
 but to

00:17:06.420 --> 00:17:06.880
 serve.

00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:09.619
 And that

00:17:09.619 --> 00:17:10.099
 is how I'm

00:17:10.099 --> 00:17:10.460
 going to

00:17:10.460 --> 00:17:11.119
 defeat evil

00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:11.380
 and put

00:17:11.380 --> 00:17:11.660
 everything

00:17:11.660 --> 00:17:12.140
 right.

00:17:12.140 --> 00:17:13.560
 Jesus

00:17:13.560 --> 00:17:14.580
 says he

00:17:14.580 --> 00:17:15.600
 must

00:17:15.600 --> 00:17:16.460
 suffer.

00:17:17.300 --> 00:17:17.940
 Not that

00:17:17.940 --> 00:17:18.280
 he would

00:17:18.280 --> 00:17:18.680
 suffer.

00:17:19.840 --> 00:17:20.160
 And the

00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:20.840
 word must

00:17:20.840 --> 00:17:21.980
 there controls

00:17:21.980 --> 00:17:23.500
 the entire

00:17:23.500 --> 00:17:25.000
 sentence in

00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:25.540
 such a way

00:17:25.540 --> 00:17:26.180
 that everything

00:17:26.180 --> 00:17:27.060
 in that list

00:17:27.060 --> 00:17:28.400
 must happen.

00:17:28.700 --> 00:17:29.720
 Jesus must

00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:30.300
 suffer.

00:17:30.420 --> 00:17:31.240
 He must be

00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:31.640
 rejected.

00:17:31.800 --> 00:17:32.480
 He must be

00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:32.800
 killed.

00:17:33.060 --> 00:17:34.000
 He must be

00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:34.640
 resurrected.

00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:37.580
 And all of

00:17:37.580 --> 00:17:38.920
 those must

00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:43.240
 must happen

00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:46.120
 if people

00:17:46.120 --> 00:17:46.519
 are to be

00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:46.940
 saved and

00:17:46.940 --> 00:17:47.259
 the world

00:17:47.259 --> 00:17:47.640
 is to be

00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:48.000
 renewed.

00:17:49.539 --> 00:17:50.060
 Let me

00:17:50.060 --> 00:17:50.240
 give you

00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:51.000
 two reasons.

00:17:51.660 --> 00:17:51.940
 If you're

00:17:51.940 --> 00:17:52.300
 looking on

00:17:52.300 --> 00:17:53.700
 your outline,

00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:55.300
 there's a

00:17:55.300 --> 00:17:56.080
 personal reason

00:17:56.080 --> 00:17:56.539
 and there's a

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 legal reason,

00:17:57.980 --> 00:17:58.940
 legal necessity

00:17:58.940 --> 00:17:59.539
 and a personal

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 necessity as to

00:18:00.840 --> 00:18:01.420
 why Jesus

00:18:01.420 --> 00:18:02.440
 must die.

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 Firstly,

00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:04.460
 the personal

00:18:04.460 --> 00:18:05.080
 necessity,

00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:05.720
 the personal

00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:06.240
 must.

00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:07.900
 Now,

00:18:08.019 --> 00:18:08.620
 we probably

00:18:08.620 --> 00:18:09.160
 know by

00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:10.859
 now the

00:18:10.859 --> 00:18:11.339
 difference

00:18:11.339 --> 00:18:12.120
 between,

00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:13.319
 you don't

00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:13.700
 have to live

00:18:13.700 --> 00:18:14.099
 long,

00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:14.539
 the difference

00:18:14.539 --> 00:18:15.160
 between fake

00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:15.980
 love and

00:18:15.980 --> 00:18:16.380
 authentic

00:18:16.380 --> 00:18:16.839
 love.

00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:17.839
 In fake

00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:18.319
 love,

00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:19.660
 our aim

00:18:19.660 --> 00:18:20.819
 is to

00:18:20.819 --> 00:18:22.059
 show some

00:18:22.059 --> 00:18:22.660
 kind of

00:18:22.660 --> 00:18:23.839
 love to

00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:24.099
 another

00:18:24.099 --> 00:18:25.660
 person in

00:18:25.660 --> 00:18:26.059
 order to

00:18:26.059 --> 00:18:26.980
 extract something

00:18:26.980 --> 00:18:27.620
 from them.

00:18:29.120 --> 00:18:30.480
 And ultimately,

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 it's about our

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 happiness.

00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:33.279
 That is,

00:18:33.339 --> 00:18:33.819
 our love is

00:18:33.819 --> 00:18:34.299
 conditional.

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 We only

00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:37.099
 give it

00:18:37.099 --> 00:18:38.200
 when the

00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:38.960
 other person

00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:39.659
 is affirming

00:18:39.659 --> 00:18:40.119
 us and

00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:40.579
 meeting our

00:18:40.579 --> 00:18:41.019
 needs and

00:18:41.019 --> 00:18:41.440
 filling us

00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:41.839
 up on the

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 inside.

00:18:43.180 --> 00:18:43.960
 Fake love

00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:45.240
 never allows

00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:45.919
 itself to be

00:18:45.919 --> 00:18:46.240
 vulnerable.

00:18:47.220 --> 00:18:47.980
 You always

00:18:47.980 --> 00:18:48.759
 have to hold

00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:49.680
 something back

00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:50.839
 in case you

00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:51.359
 need to cut

00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:51.819
 your losses

00:18:51.819 --> 00:18:52.460
 and run.

00:18:53.379 --> 00:18:54.019
 The aim of

00:18:54.019 --> 00:18:54.980
 authentic love

00:18:54.980 --> 00:18:56.059
 is to spend

00:18:56.059 --> 00:18:57.279
 yourself and

00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:58.279
 use yourself

00:18:58.279 --> 00:18:59.019
 for the

00:18:59.019 --> 00:18:59.740
 happiness of

00:18:59.740 --> 00:19:00.180
 the other

00:19:00.180 --> 00:19:00.899
 because your

00:19:00.899 --> 00:19:01.879
 joy is their

00:19:01.879 --> 00:19:02.220
 joy.

00:19:02.220 --> 00:19:03.019
 I would

00:19:03.019 --> 00:19:03.500
 love to

00:19:03.500 --> 00:19:03.839
 go on a

00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:04.059
 great

00:19:04.059 --> 00:19:04.740
 excursus

00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:05.539
 now about

00:19:05.539 --> 00:19:06.120
 how the

00:19:06.120 --> 00:19:07.339
 definition of

00:19:07.339 --> 00:19:08.000
 marriage,

00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:08.420
 and I'm not

00:19:08.420 --> 00:19:08.860
 talking about

00:19:08.860 --> 00:19:09.299
 same-sex

00:19:09.299 --> 00:19:09.579
 marriage,

00:19:09.660 --> 00:19:10.279
 the definition

00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:10.960
 of marriage

00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.100
 has shifted

00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:12.860
 in Western

00:19:12.860 --> 00:19:14.440
 culture to

00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:15.039
 one where

00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:15.680
 love is the

00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:16.440
 primary issue.

00:19:21.779 --> 00:19:22.380
 Authentic

00:19:22.380 --> 00:19:24.140
 love is

00:19:24.140 --> 00:19:24.880
 unconditional.

00:19:26.019 --> 00:19:26.720
 You give

00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:27.240
 it whether

00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:28.100
 your needs

00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:28.420
 are being

00:19:28.420 --> 00:19:28.940
 met or

00:19:28.940 --> 00:19:29.319
 not.

00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:31.899
 it is

00:19:31.899 --> 00:19:32.460
 radically

00:19:32.460 --> 00:19:33.000
 vulnerable.

00:19:33.859 --> 00:19:34.619
 You spend

00:19:34.619 --> 00:19:35.240
 everything.

00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:36.099
 You hold

00:19:36.099 --> 00:19:36.740
 nothing back.

00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:37.220
 You give

00:19:37.220 --> 00:19:37.619
 it away.

00:19:38.500 --> 00:19:39.119
 The problem

00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.019
 is if you're

00:19:41.019 --> 00:19:41.460
 sitting there

00:19:41.460 --> 00:19:41.859
 now and

00:19:41.859 --> 00:19:42.500
 allowing these

00:19:42.500 --> 00:19:42.919
 words to

00:19:42.919 --> 00:19:43.480
 filter down

00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:43.899
 to a little

00:19:43.899 --> 00:19:44.460
 depth,

00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:45.460
 you will

00:19:45.460 --> 00:19:46.279
 realize that

00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:47.119
 you are

00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:48.059
 incapable of

00:19:48.059 --> 00:19:48.659
 doing that.

00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:50.839
 That no one

00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:51.879
 is actually

00:19:51.879 --> 00:19:53.839
 fully capable

00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.099
 of giving

00:19:55.099 --> 00:19:56.359
 true love

00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:56.459
 love.

00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:58.119
 All the

00:19:58.119 --> 00:19:58.479
 time.

00:19:59.219 --> 00:19:59.359
 We

00:19:59.359 --> 00:19:59.959
 desperately

00:19:59.959 --> 00:20:00.799
 need it

00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:01.819
 and want

00:20:01.819 --> 00:20:02.199
 it, but

00:20:02.199 --> 00:20:03.059
 nobody can

00:20:03.059 --> 00:20:03.359
 give it

00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:04.019
 to us.

00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:05.839
 Not that we

00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:06.279
 can't give

00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:07.019
 any kind

00:20:07.019 --> 00:20:07.539
 of authentic

00:20:07.539 --> 00:20:08.519
 love, but

00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:09.559
 no one is

00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:10.879
 fully always

00:20:10.879 --> 00:20:11.659
 capable of

00:20:11.659 --> 00:20:11.799
 it.

00:20:12.299 --> 00:20:13.339
 We need to

00:20:13.339 --> 00:20:14.639
 be loved as

00:20:14.639 --> 00:20:15.679
 human beings.

00:20:16.619 --> 00:20:17.579
 Like we need

00:20:17.579 --> 00:20:18.219
 oxygen and we

00:20:18.219 --> 00:20:18.819
 need water.

00:20:19.740 --> 00:20:20.439
 What every

00:20:20.439 --> 00:20:21.259
 single one of

00:20:21.259 --> 00:20:22.939
 us needs is

00:20:22.939 --> 00:20:23.500
 someone to

00:20:23.500 --> 00:20:24.460
 love us

00:20:24.460 --> 00:20:26.599
 who doesn't

00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:27.819
 need our

00:20:27.819 --> 00:20:29.039
 love back.

00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:31.559
 Someone who

00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:32.160
 loves us

00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:32.720
 radically,

00:20:32.980 --> 00:20:33.740
 unconditionally,

00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:34.539
 vulnerably,

00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:35.380
 and that

00:20:35.380 --> 00:20:36.400
 person is

00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:37.059
 Jesus.

00:20:37.980 --> 00:20:38.420
 At the

00:20:38.420 --> 00:20:39.059
 baptism of

00:20:39.059 --> 00:20:39.339
 Jesus,

00:20:39.460 --> 00:20:39.980
 earlier in

00:20:39.980 --> 00:20:40.779
 Mark, we

00:20:40.779 --> 00:20:41.319
 see that the

00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:42.140
 very essence

00:20:42.140 --> 00:20:43.519
 of God is

00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:44.859
 mutual love

00:20:44.859 --> 00:20:45.579
 relationship,

00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:46.759
 a relationship

00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:47.460
 where the

00:20:47.460 --> 00:20:48.160
 three persons

00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:48.380
 of the

00:20:48.380 --> 00:20:49.240
 Trinity have

00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.140
 forever given

00:20:51.140 --> 00:20:51.779
 to each

00:20:51.779 --> 00:20:53.460
 other love.

00:20:53.500 --> 00:20:55.119
 self-giving,

00:20:55.619 --> 00:20:56.640
 selfless love.

00:20:57.059 --> 00:20:57.460
 Within

00:20:57.460 --> 00:20:58.460
 himself, God

00:20:58.460 --> 00:20:59.420
 has forever

00:20:59.420 --> 00:21:00.680
 had all the

00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:01.480
 love, all

00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:02.140
 the fulfillment,

00:21:02.460 --> 00:21:03.559
 all the joy

00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:04.359
 that he could

00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:05.319
 possibly ever

00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:05.799
 want.

00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:08.240
 Which means

00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:08.759
 that Jesus

00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:09.660
 does not need

00:21:09.660 --> 00:21:10.799
 to extract any

00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:11.460
 more love

00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:12.000
 from anyone.

00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:13.480
 He's filled

00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:13.859
 up.

00:21:14.460 --> 00:21:14.980
 He lacks

00:21:14.980 --> 00:21:15.480
 nothing.

00:21:16.660 --> 00:21:17.200
 The only

00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:18.759
 way we get

00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:19.619
 true love

00:21:19.619 --> 00:21:20.859
 is from

00:21:20.859 --> 00:21:21.720
 him.

00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.779
 The security

00:21:23.779 --> 00:21:24.380
 of Jesus'

00:21:24.600 --> 00:21:25.600
 love enables

00:21:25.600 --> 00:21:26.400
 us to

00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:27.360
 need less

00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:28.700
 and to

00:21:28.700 --> 00:21:29.339
 love others

00:21:29.339 --> 00:21:29.779
 more.

00:21:31.360 --> 00:21:32.279
 True love

00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:33.600
 actually creates

00:21:33.600 --> 00:21:34.880
 more true

00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:35.299
 love.

00:21:36.380 --> 00:21:36.740
 Jesus

00:21:36.740 --> 00:21:39.400
 must die

00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:41.279
 because

00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:42.360
 without it,

00:21:43.059 --> 00:21:44.279
 this world

00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:44.779
 has nothing

00:21:44.779 --> 00:21:45.440
 to break the

00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:46.460
 cycle of

00:21:46.460 --> 00:21:47.160
 destructive,

00:21:48.100 --> 00:21:48.819
 manipulative,

00:21:48.819 --> 00:21:49.879
 conditional,

00:21:50.539 --> 00:21:51.399
 non-vulnerable

00:21:51.399 --> 00:21:51.980
 love.

00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:56.119
 Legally,

00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:56.960
 secondly,

00:21:57.139 --> 00:21:57.700
 Jesus must

00:21:57.700 --> 00:21:58.039
 die.

00:21:58.519 --> 00:21:59.079
 It's a legal

00:21:59.079 --> 00:21:59.619
 necessity.

00:22:01.399 --> 00:22:02.079
 When someone

00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:02.980
 wrongs you,

00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:04.599
 a debt

00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:05.460
 is established.

00:22:06.500 --> 00:22:07.539
 Happens in

00:22:07.539 --> 00:22:08.200
 all of life,

00:22:08.259 --> 00:22:08.539
 not just

00:22:08.539 --> 00:22:09.000
 financially,

00:22:09.539 --> 00:22:10.019
 emotionally,

00:22:10.259 --> 00:22:10.779
 psychologically,

00:22:11.259 --> 00:22:11.859
 a debt is

00:22:11.859 --> 00:22:12.359
 established.

00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:13.579
 So for

00:22:13.579 --> 00:22:13.799
 instance,

00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.139
 if you

00:22:15.139 --> 00:22:15.559
 got my

00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:16.679
 phone and

00:22:16.679 --> 00:22:17.079
 you broke,

00:22:17.159 --> 00:22:17.779
 it's alright.

00:22:17.959 --> 00:22:18.779
 If I have my

00:22:18.779 --> 00:22:19.219
 phone up here

00:22:19.219 --> 00:22:19.619
 and I held

00:22:19.619 --> 00:22:20.059
 it up and I

00:22:20.059 --> 00:22:20.219
 said,

00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:20.979
 if you broke

00:22:20.979 --> 00:22:21.639
 my phone,

00:22:21.919 --> 00:22:22.299
 there are only

00:22:22.299 --> 00:22:22.819
 two things

00:22:22.819 --> 00:22:23.059
 that can

00:22:23.059 --> 00:22:23.359
 happen.

00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:23.839
 You take

00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:24.159
 my phone

00:22:24.159 --> 00:22:24.399
 and you

00:22:24.399 --> 00:22:24.759
 break it,

00:22:24.819 --> 00:22:25.199
 two things

00:22:25.199 --> 00:22:25.599
 can happen

00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:25.919
 at this

00:22:25.919 --> 00:22:26.199
 point.

00:22:26.699 --> 00:22:27.379
 Either I

00:22:27.379 --> 00:22:27.919
 say to

00:22:27.919 --> 00:22:28.399
 you that

00:22:28.399 --> 00:22:29.099
 will be

00:22:29.099 --> 00:22:30.839
 $1,000,

00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:32.559
 whatever it

00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:32.979
 is, the

00:22:32.979 --> 00:22:33.559
 cost of it,

00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:36.039
 or I can

00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:36.459
 say to

00:22:36.459 --> 00:22:37.219
 you, I

00:22:37.219 --> 00:22:37.919
 forgive you.

00:22:38.139 --> 00:22:38.459
 That's the

00:22:38.459 --> 00:22:38.779
 only two

00:22:38.779 --> 00:22:39.279
 options you

00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:39.519
 got.

00:22:40.139 --> 00:22:40.639
 Either you

00:22:40.639 --> 00:22:41.199
 pay for

00:22:41.199 --> 00:22:41.459
 it,

00:22:41.460 --> 00:22:42.799
 or I

00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:43.120
 can say

00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:43.480
 to you,

00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:44.559
 I forgive

00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:44.799
 you.

00:22:46.420 --> 00:22:47.140
 In the

00:22:47.140 --> 00:22:47.940
 first case,

00:22:48.420 --> 00:22:49.140
 you pay

00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:49.680
 the debt.

00:22:50.019 --> 00:22:50.340
 You've

00:22:50.340 --> 00:22:50.840
 created the

00:22:50.840 --> 00:22:51.980
 wrong, you

00:22:51.980 --> 00:22:52.460
 pay the

00:22:52.460 --> 00:22:52.680
 debt.

00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:53.759
 In the

00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:54.079
 second

00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:54.720
 instance,

00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:56.120
 I pay

00:22:56.120 --> 00:22:56.539
 the debt.

00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:58.759
 That is,

00:22:59.140 --> 00:22:59.799
 the value

00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:00.559
 of the

00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:01.680
 phone doesn't

00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:02.900
 just disappear.

00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:07.660
 If I

00:23:07.660 --> 00:23:08.420
 choose to

00:23:08.420 --> 00:23:09.240
 forgive you,

00:23:10.360 --> 00:23:11.259
 absorb you

00:23:11.259 --> 00:23:11.759
 of the

00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.079
 debt,

00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:13.720
 then I

00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:14.220
 have to

00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:14.640
 pay the

00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:14.879
 debt.

00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:18.240
 Either I

00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:18.539
 have to

00:23:18.539 --> 00:23:19.019
 buy a

00:23:19.019 --> 00:23:19.640
 new phone,

00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:21.559
 or I

00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:21.779
 have to

00:23:21.779 --> 00:23:22.140
 go back

00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:22.480
 to pen

00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:22.940
 and paper

00:23:22.940 --> 00:23:23.879
 and pigeons.

00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:28.200
 In one

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:28.519
 way or

00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:29.119
 another, I

00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:30.019
 absorb the

00:23:30.019 --> 00:23:31.079
 debt for

00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:31.680
 your wrong

00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:33.240
 against me

00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:34.700
 if I

00:23:34.700 --> 00:23:35.539
 say I

00:23:35.539 --> 00:23:36.119
 forgive you.

00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:37.379
 And that

00:23:37.379 --> 00:23:37.960
 happens on

00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:39.019
 all levels

00:23:39.019 --> 00:23:39.740
 of life.

00:23:39.900 --> 00:23:40.460
 If someone

00:23:40.460 --> 00:23:41.000
 robs you

00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:41.299
 of an

00:23:41.299 --> 00:23:41.859
 opportunity

00:23:41.859 --> 00:23:42.579
 or of your

00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:43.180
 happiness or

00:23:43.180 --> 00:23:43.400
 of your

00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:44.559
 reputation or

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:45.299
 something else,

00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:46.680
 it creates a

00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:47.180
 sense of

00:23:47.180 --> 00:23:47.460
 debt,

00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:48.680
 relational

00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:49.059
 debt.

00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:50.539
 Justice has

00:23:50.539 --> 00:23:51.279
 been violated

00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:52.079
 and a debt

00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:52.480
 has been

00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:53.259
 accrued and

00:23:53.259 --> 00:23:53.639
 there are only

00:23:53.639 --> 00:23:54.240
 two options

00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:54.539
 in that

00:23:54.539 --> 00:23:54.879
 moment.

00:23:55.700 --> 00:23:56.339
 You can

00:23:56.339 --> 00:23:56.900
 make them

00:23:56.900 --> 00:23:58.519
 pay by

00:23:58.519 --> 00:23:59.299
 destroying

00:23:59.299 --> 00:24:00.519
 their

00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:01.180
 opportunities,

00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:02.599
 ruining their

00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:03.220
 reputation.

00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:03.879
 You can hope

00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:04.160
 that they

00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:04.680
 suffer or

00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:04.980
 you can

00:24:04.980 --> 00:24:05.540
 ensure that

00:24:05.540 --> 00:24:05.980
 they do.

00:24:09.420 --> 00:24:11.080
 But there

00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:11.800
 is always a

00:24:11.800 --> 00:24:12.500
 personal toll

00:24:12.500 --> 00:24:12.860
 to that.

00:24:14.100 --> 00:24:14.880
 When you're

00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:15.440
 making them

00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:16.120
 pay off their

00:24:16.120 --> 00:24:16.800
 personal debt

00:24:16.800 --> 00:24:17.340
 to you by

00:24:17.340 --> 00:24:17.840
 suffering,

00:24:18.340 --> 00:24:18.780
 you are

00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:19.620
 becoming like

00:24:19.620 --> 00:24:19.940
 them.

00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:20.860
 You are

00:24:20.860 --> 00:24:21.620
 doing what

00:24:21.620 --> 00:24:22.260
 done to

00:24:22.260 --> 00:24:22.520
 you.

00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:23.680
 You become

00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:24.040
 harder,

00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:25.020
 you become

00:24:25.020 --> 00:24:25.480
 older,

00:24:25.800 --> 00:24:26.740
 colder and

00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:26.980
 older,

00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:29.560
 and evil

00:24:29.560 --> 00:24:30.120
 wins.

00:24:31.320 --> 00:24:32.300
 The only

00:24:32.300 --> 00:24:33.380
 alternative is

00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:33.840
 to forgive,

00:24:34.600 --> 00:24:35.380
 but it is

00:24:35.380 --> 00:24:36.680
 really hard

00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:37.480
 to forgive.

00:24:37.860 --> 00:24:38.220
 It is

00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:39.620
 agony to

00:24:39.620 --> 00:24:39.920
 forgive.

00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:40.520
 It is

00:24:40.520 --> 00:24:41.600
 agony to

00:24:41.600 --> 00:24:42.440
 refrain from

00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:42.800
 vengeance.

00:24:43.020 --> 00:24:43.300
 It is

00:24:43.300 --> 00:24:44.100
 agony because

00:24:44.100 --> 00:24:45.380
 you choose

00:24:45.380 --> 00:24:46.000
 to absorb

00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:46.620
 the cost

00:24:46.620 --> 00:24:46.880
 of the

00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:47.120
 debt.

00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:50.300
 You're not

00:24:50.300 --> 00:24:50.600
 trying to

00:24:50.600 --> 00:24:50.880
 get your

00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:51.320
 reputation

00:24:51.320 --> 00:24:51.820
 back by

00:24:51.820 --> 00:24:52.300
 tearing down

00:24:52.300 --> 00:24:52.480
 their

00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:53.080
 reputation.

00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:54.560
 True

00:24:54.560 --> 00:24:55.200
 forgiveness

00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.080
 always requires

00:24:57.080 --> 00:24:57.720
 suffering.

00:24:58.920 --> 00:24:59.420
 Love

00:24:59.420 --> 00:25:01.000
 requires

00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:01.860
 suffering.

00:25:01.859 --> 00:25:02.000
 suffering.

00:25:02.899 --> 00:25:03.259
 It is

00:25:03.259 --> 00:25:03.779
 a nonsense

00:25:03.779 --> 00:25:04.299
 to say,

00:25:04.419 --> 00:25:04.719
 why does

00:25:04.719 --> 00:25:05.179
 God not

00:25:05.179 --> 00:25:05.759
 just go,

00:25:07.199 --> 00:25:07.859
 just forget

00:25:07.859 --> 00:25:08.379
 about it.

00:25:10.619 --> 00:25:11.179
 Debt

00:25:11.179 --> 00:25:11.839
 never just

00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:12.299
 vanishes.

00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:14.199
 Either they

00:25:14.199 --> 00:25:14.959
 pay or you

00:25:14.959 --> 00:25:15.319
 pay.

00:25:16.019 --> 00:25:16.459
 It should

00:25:16.459 --> 00:25:17.119
 come as no

00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:18.259
 surprise that

00:25:18.259 --> 00:25:18.779
 God would

00:25:18.779 --> 00:25:19.179
 say the

00:25:19.179 --> 00:25:20.079
 only way

00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:20.500
 that I

00:25:20.500 --> 00:25:21.139
 can forgive

00:25:21.139 --> 00:25:21.759
 the sins

00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:22.039
 of the

00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:22.740
 human race

00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:23.879
 against me

00:25:23.879 --> 00:25:24.839
 is either

00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:25.500
 make them

00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.579
 pay or I

00:25:27.579 --> 00:25:27.899
 pay.

00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:31.040
 either

00:25:31.040 --> 00:25:31.759
 humanity

00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:32.259
 has to

00:25:32.259 --> 00:25:32.800
 pay for

00:25:32.800 --> 00:25:33.460
 its debt

00:25:33.460 --> 00:25:34.519
 of sin

00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:35.400
 in rejecting

00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:35.660
 me,

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:36.340
 its creator,

00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:37.580
 or I

00:25:37.580 --> 00:25:38.360
 will.

00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:40.000
 The only

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:40.560
 way God

00:25:40.560 --> 00:25:41.120
 can pardon

00:25:41.120 --> 00:25:41.519
 us and

00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:42.000
 not judge

00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:44.160
 us is

00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:44.580
 to go to

00:25:44.580 --> 00:25:45.019
 the cross

00:25:45.019 --> 00:25:45.540
 and absorb

00:25:45.540 --> 00:25:46.060
 it himself.

00:25:47.080 --> 00:25:47.380
 And that's

00:25:47.380 --> 00:25:47.840
 why Jesus

00:25:47.840 --> 00:25:48.220
 says I

00:25:48.220 --> 00:25:48.820
 must suffer

00:25:48.820 --> 00:25:50.519
 because if

00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:50.960
 I don't,

00:25:51.019 --> 00:25:51.380
 you do.

00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:53.640
 If I

00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:53.880
 don't,

00:25:53.940 --> 00:25:54.280
 you do.

00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:58.200
 He is

00:25:58.200 --> 00:25:58.660
 saying that

00:25:58.660 --> 00:25:59.019
 He is

00:25:59.019 --> 00:25:59.559
 the King,

00:25:59.660 --> 00:26:00.259
 the King,

00:26:00.740 --> 00:26:01.359
 but not

00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:01.779
 just like

00:26:01.779 --> 00:26:02.379
 any King

00:26:02.379 --> 00:26:02.819
 you've ever

00:26:02.819 --> 00:26:03.259
 imagined.

00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:03.779
 He is

00:26:03.779 --> 00:26:04.299
 the King

00:26:04.299 --> 00:26:04.859
 who must

00:26:04.859 --> 00:26:05.259
 die.

00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:05.859
 He is

00:26:05.859 --> 00:26:06.420
 the King

00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:07.160
 who must

00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.119
 suffer in

00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:08.619
 order for

00:26:08.619 --> 00:26:09.139
 us to be

00:26:09.139 --> 00:26:09.519
 loved and

00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:10.099
 forgiven and

00:26:10.099 --> 00:26:10.660
 filled up.

00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:13.279
 But He

00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:13.779
 doesn't stop

00:26:13.779 --> 00:26:14.099
 there.

00:26:15.579 --> 00:26:16.059
 Following

00:26:16.059 --> 00:26:16.839
 Him means

00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:17.379
 we die

00:26:17.379 --> 00:26:17.839
 too.

00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:18.940
 Let's keep

00:26:18.940 --> 00:26:19.480
 reading verse

00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:20.079
 34,

00:26:20.740 --> 00:26:21.200
 Mark chapter

00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:21.440
 8.

00:26:21.500 --> 00:26:21.700
 Then He

00:26:21.700 --> 00:26:22.139
 called the

00:26:22.139 --> 00:26:22.519
 crowd to

00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:22.940
 Him along

00:26:22.940 --> 00:26:23.259
 with His

00:26:23.259 --> 00:26:23.819
 disciples and

00:26:23.819 --> 00:26:23.879
 said,

00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:24.320
 whoever wants

00:26:24.320 --> 00:26:24.520
 to be

00:26:24.520 --> 00:26:25.100
 my disciple

00:26:25.100 --> 00:26:25.940
 must deny

00:26:25.940 --> 00:26:26.500
 themselves and

00:26:26.500 --> 00:26:26.880
 take up

00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:27.460
 their cross

00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:28.460
 and follow

00:26:28.460 --> 00:26:29.420
 me.

00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:30.280
 For whoever

00:26:30.280 --> 00:26:31.220
 wants to

00:26:31.220 --> 00:26:31.700
 save their

00:26:31.700 --> 00:26:32.140
 life will

00:26:32.140 --> 00:26:32.660
 lose it,

00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:33.360
 but whoever

00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:34.180
 loses their

00:26:34.180 --> 00:26:34.740
 life for me

00:26:34.740 --> 00:26:35.040
 for the

00:26:35.040 --> 00:26:35.540
 gospel will

00:26:35.540 --> 00:26:36.060
 save it.

00:26:36.340 --> 00:26:36.840
 What good

00:26:36.840 --> 00:26:37.220
 is it for

00:26:37.220 --> 00:26:37.700
 someone to

00:26:37.700 --> 00:26:38.100
 gain the

00:26:38.100 --> 00:26:38.780
 whole world

00:26:38.780 --> 00:26:39.080
 and yet

00:26:39.080 --> 00:26:39.780
 forfeit their

00:26:39.780 --> 00:26:40.360
 soul?

00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.480
 Or what

00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:41.920
 can anyone

00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:42.380
 give in

00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:43.000
 exchange for

00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:43.460
 their soul?

00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:44.900
 What does

00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:45.480
 it mean

00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:47.280
 for us to

00:26:47.280 --> 00:26:47.820
 lose our

00:26:47.820 --> 00:26:48.300
 life for the

00:26:48.300 --> 00:26:49.020
 gospel in

00:26:49.020 --> 00:26:49.420
 order to

00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:49.880
 save it?

00:26:50.820 --> 00:26:51.340
 The word

00:26:51.340 --> 00:26:51.600
 that's

00:26:51.600 --> 00:26:52.080
 translated

00:26:52.080 --> 00:26:53.400
 life there

00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:53.740
 in verse

00:26:53.740 --> 00:26:54.740
 35 is a

00:26:54.740 --> 00:26:55.100
 word that

00:26:55.100 --> 00:26:55.600
 means your

00:26:55.600 --> 00:26:56.100
 identity,

00:26:56.380 --> 00:26:57.519
 your personality,

00:26:57.740 --> 00:26:58.600
 your selfhood.

00:26:59.360 --> 00:27:00.100
 It is the

00:27:00.100 --> 00:27:01.280
 things that

00:27:01.280 --> 00:27:01.780
 make you

00:27:01.780 --> 00:27:02.540
 distinctively

00:27:02.540 --> 00:27:04.040
 you.

00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:05.840
 Now Jesus

00:27:05.840 --> 00:27:06.720
 isn't saying

00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:07.200
 there that you

00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:07.900
 need to lose

00:27:07.900 --> 00:27:08.460
 the things that

00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:08.800
 make you

00:27:08.800 --> 00:27:09.340
 distinctively

00:27:09.340 --> 00:27:09.580
 you.

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:09.980
 You just

00:27:09.980 --> 00:27:10.900
 need to lose

00:27:10.900 --> 00:27:11.480
 all of who

00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:12.080
 you are.

00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:14.580
 That would

00:27:14.580 --> 00:27:15.000
 make no

00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:15.640
 sense whatsoever.

00:27:16.300 --> 00:27:16.900
 What he is

00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:18.519
 saying is that

00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:19.460
 you don't build

00:27:19.460 --> 00:27:20.460
 your identity on

00:27:20.460 --> 00:27:21.220
 gaining things in

00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:21.720
 this world.

00:27:22.660 --> 00:27:23.460
 Verse 36,

00:27:24.100 --> 00:27:24.759
 what good is it

00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:25.420
 for someone to

00:27:25.420 --> 00:27:26.000
 gain the whole

00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:26.600
 world and yet

00:27:26.600 --> 00:27:27.180
 forfeit their

00:27:27.180 --> 00:27:27.500
 soul?

00:27:28.539 --> 00:27:29.259
 Every single

00:27:29.259 --> 00:27:30.980
 culture points

00:27:30.980 --> 00:27:31.860
 to the things

00:27:31.860 --> 00:27:32.680
 and says that

00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:33.279
 if you gain

00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:34.019
 those things,

00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:35.059
 if you acquire

00:27:35.059 --> 00:27:35.779
 those things,

00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:36.819
 if you achieve

00:27:36.819 --> 00:27:37.700
 those things,

00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:38.640
 then you will

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:39.319
 know that you

00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:40.220
 are truly valuable,

00:27:40.380 --> 00:27:40.720
 that you are

00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:41.360
 truly loved.

00:27:42.140 --> 00:27:42.799
 You become

00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:43.539
 lovable to

00:27:43.539 --> 00:27:44.059
 others.

00:27:45.420 --> 00:27:45.819
 Traditional

00:27:45.819 --> 00:27:46.759
 cultures say

00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:47.680
 that we have

00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:48.440
 no sense of

00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:49.420
 self unless you

00:27:49.420 --> 00:27:49.759
 gain the

00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:51.079
 respectability and

00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:51.759
 the legacy of

00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:52.240
 family and

00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:52.579
 children.

00:27:53.779 --> 00:27:54.339
 Individualistic

00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:55.559
 cultures are

00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:56.000
 different.

00:27:56.159 --> 00:27:56.720
 We say that

00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:56.980
 you are a

00:27:56.980 --> 00:27:58.039
 nobody unless

00:27:58.039 --> 00:27:58.500
 you have a

00:27:58.500 --> 00:27:59.159
 fulfilling career

00:27:59.159 --> 00:27:59.720
 that brings you

00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:00.619
 money, reputation

00:28:00.619 --> 00:28:01.399
 and status.

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:03.419
 Either culture

00:28:03.419 --> 00:28:04.720
 ultimately says

00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:05.899
 the same thing.

00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:07.399
 Your identity,

00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:08.859
 your sense of

00:28:08.859 --> 00:28:09.939
 self-worth is

00:28:09.939 --> 00:28:10.500
 based on

00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:11.179
 performance.

00:28:11.639 --> 00:28:12.419
 It is based on

00:28:12.419 --> 00:28:13.139
 your achievements.

00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:15.059
 If you perform

00:28:15.059 --> 00:28:15.720
 well enough,

00:28:16.179 --> 00:28:16.939
 you will find

00:28:16.939 --> 00:28:17.500
 the love and

00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:18.220
 the approval that

00:28:18.220 --> 00:28:19.220
 you crave and

00:28:19.220 --> 00:28:19.879
 it will fill you

00:28:19.879 --> 00:28:20.299
 up on the

00:28:20.299 --> 00:28:20.720
 inside.

00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.519
 And Jesus

00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:24.059
 says, if you

00:28:24.059 --> 00:28:24.619
 gain the

00:28:24.619 --> 00:28:25.759
 entire world,

00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:27.119
 it won't be

00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:27.559
 enough.

00:28:29.919 --> 00:28:30.939
 No matter

00:28:30.939 --> 00:28:31.419
 what you

00:28:31.419 --> 00:28:32.079
 achieve,

00:28:33.439 --> 00:28:34.240
 no matter

00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:34.740
 what you

00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:35.339
 gain,

00:28:36.699 --> 00:28:37.679
 it's never

00:28:37.679 --> 00:28:38.240
 going to be

00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:38.759
 enough to

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:39.339
 make you

00:28:39.339 --> 00:28:40.039
 sure that

00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:40.519
 you know

00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:40.939
 who you

00:28:40.939 --> 00:28:41.559
 really are.

00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:42.159
 If you

00:28:42.159 --> 00:28:42.799
 build your

00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:43.500
 identity on

00:28:43.500 --> 00:28:44.099
 the fact that

00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:44.839
 someone loves

00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:45.740
 you or you've

00:28:45.740 --> 00:28:46.199
 got a good

00:28:46.199 --> 00:28:47.079
 career, what

00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:47.939
 happens when

00:28:47.939 --> 00:28:48.399
 those things

00:28:48.399 --> 00:28:48.879
 are gone?

00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:49.780
 gone and

00:28:49.780 --> 00:28:50.400
 it will

00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:51.120
 go.

00:28:53.520 --> 00:28:54.340
 Your whole

00:28:54.340 --> 00:28:55.060
 sense of

00:28:55.060 --> 00:28:55.600
 self is

00:28:55.600 --> 00:28:56.140
 gone.

00:28:57.940 --> 00:28:58.680
 Speak to

00:28:58.680 --> 00:28:59.180
 people who

00:28:59.180 --> 00:28:59.560
 have just

00:28:59.560 --> 00:29:00.060
 retired.

00:29:00.059 --> 00:29:02.059
 God's

00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:03.059
 life.

00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:03.700
 God's

00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:04.059
 life.

00:29:04.059 --> 00:29:04.500
 God's

00:29:04.500 --> 00:29:05.059
 life.

00:29:05.059 --> 00:29:05.700
 God's

00:29:05.700 --> 00:29:06.059
 life.

00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:06.720
 Jesus did

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:07.299
 not come to

00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:08.119
 convince us to

00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:08.899
 shift from one

00:29:08.899 --> 00:29:09.679
 performance-based

00:29:09.679 --> 00:29:10.480
 identity to

00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:10.819
 another.

00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:12.399
 He wants us to

00:29:12.399 --> 00:29:13.039
 lose the old

00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:14.399
 self, the old

00:29:14.399 --> 00:29:15.079
 identity and

00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:15.879
 base our sense of

00:29:15.879 --> 00:29:16.720
 worth and value

00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:17.859
 and self on

00:29:17.859 --> 00:29:19.079
 him, what he's

00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:20.359
 achieved for us,

00:29:21.179 --> 00:29:22.899
 the good news of

00:29:22.899 --> 00:29:23.419
 the gospel.

00:29:24.139 --> 00:29:24.720
 Did you notice

00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:25.079
 that in verse

00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:25.419
 35?

00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:26.160
 For whoever

00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:27.279
 wants to save

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:27.940
 their life will

00:29:27.940 --> 00:29:28.740
 lose it, but

00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:29.620
 whoever loses

00:29:29.620 --> 00:29:30.340
 their life for

00:29:30.340 --> 00:29:31.300
 me and for

00:29:31.300 --> 00:29:32.700
 the gospel will

00:29:32.700 --> 00:29:33.340
 save it.

00:29:37.060 --> 00:29:37.800
 Foundation of

00:29:37.800 --> 00:29:38.080
 Christian

00:29:38.080 --> 00:29:38.960
 discipleship is

00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:39.480
 the good news

00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:39.860
 of Jesus

00:29:39.860 --> 00:29:40.259
 Christ.

00:29:40.360 --> 00:29:40.620
 It's the

00:29:40.620 --> 00:29:40.960
 gospel.

00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:42.200
 Christianity

00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:42.759
 is not

00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:43.720
 performance-based

00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.400
 except it's

00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:45.820
 based on the

00:29:45.820 --> 00:29:46.279
 performance of

00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:46.900
 Jesus Christ.

00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:49.640
 True

00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:50.779
 gospel, sorry,

00:29:50.860 --> 00:29:51.539
 the gospel is

00:29:51.539 --> 00:29:52.220
 not something we

00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:52.720
 do.

00:29:53.080 --> 00:29:53.500
 It's something

00:29:53.500 --> 00:29:54.240
 that God has

00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:55.000
 done for us in

00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:55.319
 Jesus.

00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:56.079
 It is God's

00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:57.079
 grace from the

00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:57.759
 very time you

00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:58.500
 begin to the

00:29:58.500 --> 00:29:59.319
 time you end.

00:29:59.859 --> 00:30:00.720
 We believe, we

00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:01.859
 receive, we live

00:30:01.859 --> 00:30:03.220
 as followers of

00:30:03.220 --> 00:30:04.339
 Jesus in the

00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:04.779
 light of the

00:30:04.779 --> 00:30:05.180
 gospel.

00:30:05.740 --> 00:30:06.500
 Jesus went to

00:30:06.500 --> 00:30:07.519
 the cross and

00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:08.359
 on the cross he

00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:09.460
 lost his identity

00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:10.799
 so to speak so

00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:11.539
 that we can have

00:30:11.539 --> 00:30:11.779
 one.

00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.000
 Once we see that

00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:13.859
 the Son of God

00:30:13.859 --> 00:30:15.059
 doing that for us,

00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:15.920
 loving us like

00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:16.880
 that, we begin to

00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:18.059
 get a strength and

00:30:18.059 --> 00:30:18.859
 assurance and

00:30:18.859 --> 00:30:19.920
 identity that sets

00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.299
 us free from our

00:30:22.299 --> 00:30:23.240
 culture's identities.

00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.319
 But no, Peter

00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:30.000
 here when he

00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:30.700
 hears these words

00:30:30.700 --> 00:30:31.619
 from Jesus is

00:30:31.619 --> 00:30:32.480
 furious.

00:30:33.539 --> 00:30:34.960
 He is furious

00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:36.339
 with Jesus because

00:30:36.339 --> 00:30:38.299
 Jesus' suffering is

00:30:38.299 --> 00:30:39.660
 not part of Peter's

00:30:39.660 --> 00:30:40.059
 agenda.

00:30:41.619 --> 00:30:43.759
 His agenda led

00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:45.940
 from strength to

00:30:45.940 --> 00:30:48.319
 strength and it

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:49.140
 did not include

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:49.640
 suffering.

00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:49.720
 suffering.

00:30:53.860 --> 00:30:54.740
 And that

00:30:54.740 --> 00:30:56.759
 unfortunately is

00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:57.680
 one of the major

00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:58.540
 undercurrents of

00:30:58.540 --> 00:30:59.600
 discipleship in the

00:30:59.600 --> 00:31:00.240
 Western world.

00:31:01.600 --> 00:31:03.020
 We relate to Jesus

00:31:03.020 --> 00:31:04.140
 in exactly the same

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:04.480
 way.

00:31:05.020 --> 00:31:06.100
 We have our agenda,

00:31:06.320 --> 00:31:07.340
 we have our goal,

00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:08.280
 we have our visions

00:31:08.280 --> 00:31:10.380
 for our lives and we

00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:11.200
 think that it's good

00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:12.240
 to have God on our

00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:12.620
 side.

00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.460
 Jesus' job is to

00:31:16.460 --> 00:31:18.680
 get me established

00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:19.640
 well in life,

00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:20.799
 to give me the

00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:21.460
 things that are the

00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:22.160
 desires of my

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:22.560
 heart.

00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:25.580
 What Christian

00:31:25.580 --> 00:31:26.600
 discipleship says

00:31:26.600 --> 00:31:27.920
 that if we have an

00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.160
 end and Jesus is

00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:31.259
 the means by

00:31:31.259 --> 00:31:32.019
 achieving that

00:31:32.019 --> 00:31:34.160
 end, then we

00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.519
 are using

00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:36.360
 him.

00:31:37.420 --> 00:31:38.620
 It is just

00:31:38.620 --> 00:31:40.440
 another form of

00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:41.660
 conditional love

00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:43.960
 and it will leave us

00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:44.360
 empty.

00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.019
 if we try to

00:31:47.019 --> 00:31:47.899
 negotiate with

00:31:47.899 --> 00:31:48.439
 all will obey

00:31:48.439 --> 00:31:50.579
 you if we're

00:31:50.579 --> 00:31:51.139
 not seeing him

00:31:51.139 --> 00:31:51.719
 as a king.

00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:53.639
 If Jesus is the

00:31:53.639 --> 00:31:54.539
 king to end all

00:31:54.539 --> 00:31:55.219
 kings, then you

00:31:55.219 --> 00:31:55.939
 cannot come to

00:31:55.939 --> 00:31:56.639
 hear this king

00:31:56.639 --> 00:31:57.959
 negotiating your

00:31:57.959 --> 00:31:58.439
 terms.

00:31:58.839 --> 00:31:59.539
 We lay down our

00:31:59.539 --> 00:32:00.399
 weapons at his

00:32:00.399 --> 00:32:00.879
 feet.

00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:02.339
 It's essential that

00:32:02.339 --> 00:32:03.559
 we see Jesus Christ

00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:04.599
 as king on the

00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:05.000
 cross.

00:32:05.959 --> 00:32:06.759
 If we just

00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:07.539
 simply see him

00:32:07.539 --> 00:32:08.159
 as king,

00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:09.759
 then we'll

00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:10.699
 obey him because

00:32:10.699 --> 00:32:11.819
 we have to obey

00:32:11.819 --> 00:32:12.139
 him.

00:32:12.140 --> 00:32:13.120
 but he's the

00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:13.600
 king who went

00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:14.080
 to the cross

00:32:14.080 --> 00:32:14.620
 for us and

00:32:14.620 --> 00:32:15.380
 therefore we can

00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:16.020
 submit to him

00:32:16.020 --> 00:32:16.600
 our love and

00:32:16.600 --> 00:32:16.940
 trust.

00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:18.100
 He's a good

00:32:18.100 --> 00:32:18.400
 king.

00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:20.080
 Instead of

00:32:20.080 --> 00:32:20.920
 negotiating, we

00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:21.520
 simply say,

00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:22.120
 Lord, whatever

00:32:22.120 --> 00:32:23.020
 you ask, I

00:32:23.020 --> 00:32:23.720
 will do.

00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:25.980
 And whatever

00:32:25.980 --> 00:32:28.020
 you send, I

00:32:28.020 --> 00:32:29.100
 will accept.

00:32:31.860 --> 00:32:32.720
 If he has

00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:33.440
 utterly given

00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:34.480
 himself to us,

00:32:35.060 --> 00:32:35.880
 how can we

00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:36.480
 not give

00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:37.560
 ourselves utterly

00:32:37.560 --> 00:32:38.140
 to him?

00:32:39.500 --> 00:32:40.300
 Taking up our

00:32:40.300 --> 00:32:41.160
 cross means that

00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:41.900
 we die to

00:32:41.900 --> 00:32:42.940
 self-determination,

00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:44.340
 we die to

00:32:44.340 --> 00:32:45.320
 self-control,

00:32:46.560 --> 00:32:47.540
 sorry, we

00:32:47.540 --> 00:32:49.580
 die to control

00:32:49.580 --> 00:32:50.540
 of ourselves,

00:32:51.340 --> 00:32:51.880
 over our

00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:53.980
 lives, and

00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:54.640
 we die to

00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:55.680
 using him to

00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:56.300
 achieve our

00:32:56.300 --> 00:32:56.880
 agendas in

00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:57.220
 life.

00:33:00.220 --> 00:33:01.259
 I love the

00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:02.080
 way C.S.

00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:04.840
 Lewis closes

00:33:04.840 --> 00:33:06.060
 out his book,

00:33:06.360 --> 00:33:06.580
 Mere

00:33:06.580 --> 00:33:07.200
 Christianity,

00:33:07.700 --> 00:33:09.000
 as he

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:09.820
 describes the

00:33:09.820 --> 00:33:10.240
 life of the

00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:10.660
 disciple.

00:33:11.900 --> 00:33:15.800
 give up

00:33:15.800 --> 00:33:17.720
 yourself, and

00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:18.480
 you will find

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:18.940
 your real

00:33:18.940 --> 00:33:19.380
 self.

00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:21.440
 Lose your

00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.240
 life, and

00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:23.860
 you will save

00:33:23.860 --> 00:33:24.060
 it.

00:33:25.360 --> 00:33:25.840
 Submit to

00:33:25.840 --> 00:33:27.320
 death, the

00:33:27.320 --> 00:33:27.780
 death of your

00:33:27.780 --> 00:33:28.620
 ambitions and

00:33:28.620 --> 00:33:29.420
 favorite wishes

00:33:29.420 --> 00:33:31.100
 every day, and

00:33:31.100 --> 00:33:31.700
 the death of your

00:33:31.700 --> 00:33:32.500
 whole body in the

00:33:32.500 --> 00:33:32.740
 end.

00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:33.560
 Submit with

00:33:33.560 --> 00:33:34.820
 every fiber of

00:33:34.820 --> 00:33:36.040
 your being, and

00:33:36.040 --> 00:33:36.820
 you will find

00:33:36.820 --> 00:33:37.660
 eternal life.

00:33:37.780 --> 00:33:38.460
 Keep back

00:33:38.460 --> 00:33:39.019
 nothing.

00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:40.200
 Nothing that

00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:41.079
 you have not

00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:42.940
 given away is

00:33:42.940 --> 00:33:43.620
 in fact really

00:33:43.620 --> 00:33:44.140
 yours.

00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:46.360
 Nothing in

00:33:46.360 --> 00:33:46.900
 you that has

00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:47.840
 not died will

00:33:47.840 --> 00:33:48.680
 ever be raised

00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:49.279
 from the dead.

00:33:50.860 --> 00:33:51.960
 Look out for

00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:52.920
 yourself, and

00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:53.740
 you will find in

00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:54.340
 the long run

00:33:54.340 --> 00:33:55.220
 only hatred,

00:33:55.900 --> 00:33:56.259
 loneliness,

00:33:57.019 --> 00:33:58.420
 despair, rage,

00:33:58.660 --> 00:33:59.380
 ruin, and

00:33:59.380 --> 00:33:59.819
 decay.

00:33:59.819 --> 00:34:01.679
 But look to

00:34:01.679 --> 00:34:03.139
 Christ, and

00:34:03.139 --> 00:34:03.759
 you will find

00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.559
 him, and

00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:07.059
 with him

00:34:07.059 --> 00:34:07.939
 everything else

00:34:07.939 --> 00:34:08.659
 thrown in.

00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:11.219
 The call of

00:34:11.219 --> 00:34:12.159
 Jesus on our

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.739
 lives, if I

00:34:14.739 --> 00:34:15.420
 might use the

00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:16.480
 metaphor again,

00:34:17.579 --> 00:34:18.440
 is that the

00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:19.519
 dust of Jesus

00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.199
 covers every

00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.759
 single aspect

00:34:22.759 --> 00:34:23.860
 of our being.

00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:29.079
 no part is

00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:29.980
 untouched by

00:34:29.980 --> 00:34:30.320
 him.

00:34:31.700 --> 00:34:32.599
 And as we

00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:33.120
 journey through

00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:35.059
 this term, I

00:34:35.059 --> 00:34:35.800
 want to ask

00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:37.360
 you to ask

00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:38.880
 him specifically,

00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.880
 Jesus, are

00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:43.519
 there any

00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.460
 parts in my

00:34:44.460 --> 00:34:45.880
 life that

00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:46.320
 are not

00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:47.059
 covered by

00:34:47.059 --> 00:34:47.820
 your dust,

00:34:48.340 --> 00:34:49.460
 and by your

00:34:49.460 --> 00:34:51.220
 grace, enable

00:34:51.220 --> 00:34:52.200
 me to surrender

00:34:52.200 --> 00:34:52.820
 it to you?

00:34:53.860 --> 00:34:54.420
 Amen.

00:34:54.420 --> 00:34:54.539
 Amen.