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 Thanks very much, Casey and Steph, and good morning, everyone.

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 If you have your Bible open, please keep it open.

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 If you don't have an open Bible, you might well find it helpful as we go through,

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 because we haven't read the whole passage, but I will refer to quite a lot of it as we go.

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 Welcome to General Election Week.

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 It feels a bit momentous, doesn't it?

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 If the polls are even vaguely accurate,

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 we're likely to have only the third change of governing party in the last 45 years,

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 and that feels, in many ways, quite a big deal.

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 Or at least it did until this week I was reading Daniel chapter 11.

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 And Daniel 11 is looking not just at a period of decades, but at a period of centuries.

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 And he's giving very much the message that kingdoms will rise and kingdoms will fall,

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 rulers will become powerful, and then they'll be defeated.

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 But at the end of everything, what really matters is that God is in control.

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 I think Maggie said God will win, and that is absolutely right.

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 So as we come to a General Election Week, let's have confidence in our God.

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 Whatever happens, our God is in control,

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 and ultimately our God will be seen to be the God of gods.

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 There was something else to do with the General Election that came to me

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 as I was looking at these passages this week.

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 And that is how we get our information and our understanding.

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 And I think it comes essentially in three ways,

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 which I think are relevant as we look at this section of Daniel.

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 Some information we get about the election is straightforward,

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 relatively easy to understand.

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 It's in the interest of the political parties to have slogans

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 that come across as simple and straightforward,

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 and people can say, yes, I identify with them.

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 So in this election, the Conservative Party is promising it will cut our taxes.

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 Labour Party is promising it will grow the economy.

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 And the Liberal Democrats are promising that they'll sort out social care.

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 Simple messages that we probably can understand,

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 at least at a high level, without anyone explaining them to us.

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 I think there's that in these chapters in Daniel.

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 Now, they are long and they're complicated.

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 But if you were to read through them and try to make sense of them,

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 I think you would get some key messages.

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 And they might look something like this.

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 Chapter 10 has material about conflict in the heavens.

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 Now, it gets complicated, but we can understand there's something in there

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 about conflict in the heavens.

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 Chapter 11 is about chaos on the earth.

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 All these rulers who come and go,

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 and there's lots of detail in there which we'll come back to.

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 But the message is there's lots happening in our world.

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 Everything is temporary.

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 No ruler is forever because only God is eternal.

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 No.

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 And that then brings us to chapter 12,

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 which gives comfort for God's people.

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 And it says,

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 despite all the troubles that we see in our world,

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 and Daniel saw plenty as this message was given to him.

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 Despite all that, it will come right in the end.

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 The dead in Christ will be raised,

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 as Paul says, and is foreshadowed here.

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 And overarching it all is the message that's overarching the whole book of Daniel.

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 God is in control.

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 God is the person who is ultimately in control of our world.

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 And if we trust him, we can have total confidence in him.

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 So at a high level, then, we have some understanding of what's in the chapters.

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 Going back to the election,

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 there is also quite a lot of information that comes at us

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 that we might find quite difficult to understand

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 until someone explains it.

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 So, for example,

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 the SNP is lobbying for taxes to be increased in England.

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 And you might say,

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 well, what business is that of the SNP?

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 Well, the reason they're doing it

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 is that if taxes are raised in England

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 and the money goes to fund the English NHS,

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 then Scotland will benefit from Barnet consequentials.

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 Some of you may understand what that means.

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 Some of you probably don't.

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 I suspect none of us would

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 unless someone had explained it to us

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 or we'd read about it.

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 But it's factual information.

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 The Barnet formula is something you can find

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 and you can understand.

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 You don't really have any controversy

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 about what it is.

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 And so when we come to these chapters in Daniel,

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 there are some things that we wouldn't understand

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 if we just read it.

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 So most of chapter 11,

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 it's a long series of events that are prophesied.

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 And we very quickly, I think, get lost

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 as we read through them.

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 But if you have a good commentary or a study Bible

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 and you read that,

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 the commentary alongside Daniel 11,

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 it will explain to you exactly

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 how Daniel 11 was fulfilled in history.

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 It is a remarkably accurate account

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 of what was at the time of Daniel in the future.

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 And everyone, all the experts agree

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 on the main details of that.

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 Doesn't matter who you ask,

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 they will agree about it.

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 There's then a third level of information understanding

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 to do with the general election.

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 And that's areas where the experts

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 don't necessarily agree.

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 So all the parties are making promises.

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 They're all saying we're fully costed.

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 And some of the experts are saying,

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 actually, you haven't taken account of this

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 or this is a bit of a dodgy assumption.

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 And the experts may not necessarily agree

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 on what's what.

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 And that is one of the difficulties,

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 I guess, for us as voters.

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 We're given information.

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 Some of it we can understand easily.

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 Some of it we can understand with a bit of effort.

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 But some of it we're going to just have to decide

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 who we trust,

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 which of the experts we think

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 has potentially got it right.

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 And that's the third element

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 we find in these chapters.

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 Graham highlighted it last week

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 that there are all sorts of views

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 of the prophecies that are made

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 in the book of Daniel

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 and the visions that he had.

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 If you were listening to Graham last week

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 and you listened to me today,

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 you probably will see reasonably clearly

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 that we don't agree

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 in our understanding of some of the details.

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 And that's fine.

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 And we're not going to fall out over it.

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 It's difficult stuff

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 that people won't always see the same way.

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 But where Graham and I definitely do agree

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 is that while the detail is important,

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 the really critical things are the big picture.

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 The big picture that God is in control of our world

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 and that he will bring about his purposes in the future.

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 And that's not up for debate.

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 That is not disagreed on

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 by those who hold to the truth of the Bible.

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 God is in control.

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 There's conflict in the heavens we'll think about.

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 There's lots of chaos on earth,

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 lots of things on earth we don't understand

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 and we probably are quite distressed about.

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 But God is in control.

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 We can take comfort from that

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 and from the fact that Jesus is coming again.

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 Kingdoms will rise and fall.

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 Evil beings will do their worst.

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 But there's a glorious future

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 for those who trust in God.

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 Now, with that by way of introduction,

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 let's have a look at the passages.

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 And we're only going to be able to go over

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 very superficially this morning.

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 There's a lot of detail here we won't cover.

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 We'll try to get the main messages out of it.

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 So at the beginning of chapter 10,

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 Daniel positions for us the time of what's happening.

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 This is quite significant.

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 He says,

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 In the third year of Cyrus, king of Persia.

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 Now, in terms of the timing of Daniel,

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 this means it is the last thing that happens

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 in the book of Daniel chronologically

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 as well as in the flow of the book.

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 It is sometime after Daniel was put into the lion's den.

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 He's an old man.

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 He's probably in his mid-80s at this point.

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 What's also significant about the timing

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 is that when Cyrus became the king,

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 when the Medes and Persians conquered Babylon,

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 that set in train a return of the Jews

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 back to Jerusalem.

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 We read about it in the book of Ezra

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 in the early chapters,

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 how Cyrus decreed that the Jews

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 were going to be able to go back to Jerusalem

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 and to rebuild the temple.

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 Archie, a few weeks ago, looking at chapter 6,

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 talked about the yearning for home

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 that the Jews had.

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 And that yearning for home

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 seemed to be being realised

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 as some of Daniel's compatriots

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 went back to Judea.

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 But then they had problems.

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 There was opposition

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 and the work stalled.

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 It stopped.

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 And it may be that the point we're at now

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 is where Daniel heard about

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 the difficulties in Jerusalem.

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 Heard about the fact that the thing

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 which undoubtedly caused him great joy

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 that his people were able to return

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 actually seemed to be going wrong.

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 And perhaps that is the background

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 behind the whole of this section.

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 It is God coming to Daniel

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 and saying,

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 yes, it looks as if things are going wrong,

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 but don't worry,

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 I am in control.

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 Whether that's the right interpretation or not,

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 as we look at the beginning of this passage,

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 Daniel is in mourning.

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 In verses 2 and 3,

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 he says he mourned for three weeks,

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 he went on a very restricted diet,

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 and he didn't use ointment in the heat

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 to make things a bit more comfortable.

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 He was also, as always,

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 engaged in prayer,

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 and it looks as if he was particularly

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 asking for understanding from God.

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 Perhaps I say understanding

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 for why things seem to have gone wrong

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 in Jerusalem.

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 And as he's doing that,

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 he has a vision.

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 He sees a man dressed in linen.

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 The man has a gold belt on.

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 He has quite startling features

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 that we read about in chapter 10.

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 He has a voice that is thunderous.

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 And as Daniel hears it,

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 he falls down to the ground.

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 He appears to go into a deep faint.

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 The people who are with him

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 don't see the vision,

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 but they're terrified

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 and they run away.

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 There's a question then,

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 well, who is it that Daniel sees

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 in the vision?

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 What is the vision

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 that Daniel sees?

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 So we note

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 that there are striking similarities

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 between the description here

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 of the man Daniel sees

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 and the description of Jesus

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 in Revelation chapter 1

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 when John sees him

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 in a vision there.

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 The white robes,

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 the belt,

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 the striking features,

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 the sound of his voice,

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 and the fact that in Revelation

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 John falls at his feet

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 as if dead

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 and Daniel here also

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 falls to the ground.

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 So it's possible

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 this could be an appearance

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 of the Lord Jesus

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 before his incarnation.

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 Several points in the Old Testament

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 where that's a possibility,

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 I think it is here.

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 So John falls into this deep faint.

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 He falls asleep

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 and he's wakened

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 by a hand touching him.

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 And he's then given

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 a message by this person

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 which again is quite disturbing.

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 So who is it that's talking

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 to Daniel here?

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 Well, you might naturally think

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 it's the same person

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 as in the earlier verses

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 and it might be.

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 But it's noticeable

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 as we read these verses

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 that the person

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 who's speaking to Daniel

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 talks about how he needed help

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 from Michael.

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 Michael, one of the leaders

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 of the angel,

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 the archangel Michael,

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 whoever it was,

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 needed help from Daniel

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 to overcome a spiritual being.

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 And that doesn't tie in,

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 does it,

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 with it being the Lord Jesus,

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 the God incarnate,

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 the one who is all-powerful.

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 So it may well be

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 the person we're looking at here

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 is not the Lord Jesus

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 but is an angel

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 come to bring the message

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 to Daniel.

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 So possibly we're looking

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 at two separate people.

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 The one the Lord Jesus

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 in the earlier verses,

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 the other an angel

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 in the later verses

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 and in support of that

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 the earlier verses

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 clearly talk about a vision.

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 The later verses

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 clearly are quite physical

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 because the person

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 touches Daniel three times

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 and so does someone

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 who is physically there with them.

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 I'll leave that tentatively with you

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 if you're so inclined

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 you can go away

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 and have a think about it.

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 But the purpose of the messenger

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 is to reassure Daniel.

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 And he does it by the way

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 he touches him

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 and gives him back his strength.

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 He also does it by twice

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 calling him highly esteemed.

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 So Daniel very quickly learns

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 this isn't someone

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 who's come to judge him

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 or to condemn him.

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 It's someone who's come

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 to encourage

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 and to raise him up.

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 But the message

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 that the angel of it is that gives

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 is actually very difficult

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 because it's a message

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 about a battle in the heavens

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 a conflict in the heavens.

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 The angel talks about the fact

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 that when Daniel started praying

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 21 days ago

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 he wanted to come

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 and to reassure him then

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 but he was held up

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 by the king of Persia.

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 He later talks about

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 the king of Greece.

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 And this brings us

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 into territory

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 I think most of us

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 are fairly uncomfortable about

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 if we think about it at all.

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 That there are heavenly beings

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 who have a real interest

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 in this world.

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 Spiritual powers

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 both good and evil.

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 Here it is at the level

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 of nations.

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 It is kind of patron angels

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 if you like

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 influencing what happens

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 in the nations

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 of our world.

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 It's also true

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 that the Bible would teach

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 that there are spiritual powers

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 taking an interest

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 in us individually.

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 Maybe the most influential book

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 on this

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 in making people aware

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 of spiritual powers

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 was C.S. Lewis'

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 Screwtape Letters.

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 Quite old now

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 but many of you I'm sure

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 have come across it.

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 Screwtape Letters

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 are a series of letters

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 from a senior demon

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 to a junior tempter

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 about their work

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 in the life of someone

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 who's just called

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 the patient.

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 They're trying to

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 divert this person

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 away from God

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 and to tempt him

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 in all sorts of ways.

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 Now it's a work of fiction.

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 We're not to take

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 what C.S. Lewis writes literally

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 but he is trying both

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 to help us

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 to understand

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 the subtlety

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 of much of the temptation

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 we face

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 and to bring us

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 to a realisation

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 of the existence

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 of spiritual beings.

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 He says this

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 in his introduction.

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 There are two equal

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 and opposite errors

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 into which our race

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 can fall about the devils.

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 One is to disbelieve

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 in their existence.

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 The other is to believe

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 and to feel an excessive

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 and unhealthy interest

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 in them.

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 They themselves

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 are equally pleased

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 by both errors.

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 So on the one hand

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 we have a lot of people

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 who would find this

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 too difficult teaching

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 to understand

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 and say no,

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 can't believe that.

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 And then we have

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 a rather smaller group

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 of people

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 who take an excessive

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 interest in demonic activity

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 and to become

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 really obsessed

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 as they think about it.

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 C.S. Lewis says

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 both errors are wrong.

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 We need to take

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 a balanced view of this

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 to understand

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 that there are

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 powers out there

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 that we don't

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 understand fully.

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 but not to become

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 so caught up with them

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 that we lose focus

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 on the main thing

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 which is our relationship

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 with the Lord Jesus.

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 Paul covers this

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 in Ephesians.

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 He says,

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 our struggle

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 is not

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 against fresh and blood

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 but against the rulers,

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 against the authorities,

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 against,

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 sorry,

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 I'm struggling to read up there,

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 I'll read back here,

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 against the powers

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 of this dark world

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 and against the spiritual

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 forces of evil

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 in the heavenly realms.

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 And he then goes on

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 to encourage us

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 to put on

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 the full armour of God

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 so that when the day comes

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 we'll be able

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 to stand our ground

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 and after doing

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 everything

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 to stand.

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 Paul's advice there

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 is very important.

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 We need to be aware

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 that there are

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 evil forces

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 out there.

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 But we also need

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 to know

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 that the way

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 to combat them

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 is not by becoming

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 excessively interested

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 in them

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 but to put on

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 ourselves

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 the armour

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 of God.

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 Truth,

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 righteousness,

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 gospel readiness,

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 faith,

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 salvation,

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 God's word.

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 And alongside that,

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 Paul says,

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 to support one another

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 in prayer.

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 We are all engaged

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 in a spiritual battle.

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 We all face temptations

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 in our lives.

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 It's important

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 that we individually

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 put on the armour

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 that Paul talks about

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 and that we collectively

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 pray for one another

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 and recognise

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 we are all

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 in that battle.

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 We're not able

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 to triumph by ourselves.

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 We need to be much

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 in prayer for one another

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 that God

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 will support us

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 in it.

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 There's lots more

00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:12.080
 we could say about that.

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 We haven't got time

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 this morning

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 but I hope

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 that is some help.

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 Let's move on

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 to chapter 11.

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 Chapter 11 is very long

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 and as I said

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 it is very complicated.

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 The messenger here

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 is looking

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 into the future

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 and he's making

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 prophecies.

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 We're not going

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 to go through it

00:18:31.220 --> 00:18:31.880
 in great detail.

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 I'll summarise

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 the passage for you

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 but let me just make

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 two general comments

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 first.

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 The first thing is

00:18:39.580 --> 00:18:40.180
 as I've said

00:18:40.180 --> 00:18:41.340
 this is a very

00:18:41.340 --> 00:18:42.900
 accurate prophecy.

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 What we read

00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:45.220
 about here

00:18:45.220 --> 00:18:46.019
 which was given

00:18:46.019 --> 00:18:46.660
 to Daniel

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 is in the future

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 then

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 but we can look

00:18:49.299 --> 00:18:49.940
 back now

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 if we have

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 the historic

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 information

00:18:51.539 --> 00:18:53.000
 and we can see

00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:53.680
 that almost

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 all of it

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 until we get

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 right to the end

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 almost all of it

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 has been fulfilled

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 very accurately

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 in history.

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 So much so

00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:02.660
 that it's quite

00:19:02.660 --> 00:19:03.400
 often suggested

00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:04.059
 well this must

00:19:04.059 --> 00:19:04.620
 have been written

00:19:04.620 --> 00:19:05.500
 after the event

00:19:05.500 --> 00:19:06.960
 it is so accurate.

00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:08.259
 I don't believe

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 that's the case.

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 Our God knows

00:19:10.180 --> 00:19:10.700
 the future

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 as well as the past

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 and he is well

00:19:12.740 --> 00:19:13.779
 able to bring

00:19:13.779 --> 00:19:14.480
 this kind of

00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:15.779
 prophecy to us.

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 But we have here

00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:17.299
 a very accurate

00:19:17.299 --> 00:19:18.559
 account of what

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 happened historically.

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 But then the second

00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:22.559
 point is that

00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:23.420
 this is not just

00:19:23.420 --> 00:19:24.259
 a history lesson

00:19:24.259 --> 00:19:24.900
 for us.

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 Some people would

00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:26.879
 find it really

00:19:26.879 --> 00:19:27.759
 interesting perhaps

00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:28.500
 some people would

00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:29.200
 find it deadly

00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:30.299
 boring to go

00:19:30.299 --> 00:19:31.579
 through the history.

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 But that's not

00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:34.059
 the purpose of what

00:19:34.059 --> 00:19:34.599
 the messenger

00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:35.460
 is saying here.

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 The purpose is

00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:37.859
 to give Daniel

00:19:37.859 --> 00:19:38.480
 and those who

00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:39.299
 would follow him

00:19:39.299 --> 00:19:41.420
 confidence in God.

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 That God does

00:19:42.740 --> 00:19:43.519
 know the end

00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:44.599
 from the beginning.

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 That what happens

00:19:46.339 --> 00:19:48.339
 will be as God

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 allows it.

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 And then as we

00:19:50.379 --> 00:19:51.539
 get into chapter 12

00:19:51.539 --> 00:19:52.799
 that ultimately

00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:53.680
 God will be

00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:54.259
 triumphant

00:19:54.259 --> 00:19:55.759
 and his people

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 will be vindicated.

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 And I suspect

00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:00.059
 that people over

00:20:00.059 --> 00:20:01.220
 the few hundred

00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:02.480
 years after Daniel

00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:03.339
 as they were

00:20:03.339 --> 00:20:04.599
 facing oppression

00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:05.779
 from all sides

00:20:05.779 --> 00:20:07.279
 as Israel was

00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:08.740
 constantly under

00:20:08.740 --> 00:20:09.279
 pressure

00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:10.519
 they would be

00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:11.220
 able to look

00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:12.440
 at these prophecies

00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:12.860
 here.

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 And they could

00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:14.180
 say yes

00:20:14.180 --> 00:20:14.799
 we look in the

00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:15.420
 past and we

00:20:15.420 --> 00:20:15.839
 see these

00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:16.180
 have been

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 fulfilled

00:20:16.600 --> 00:20:17.279
 perfectly

00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:18.660
 by God.

00:20:19.100 --> 00:20:19.720
 And so we

00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:19.980
 can have

00:20:19.980 --> 00:20:20.680
 confidence in

00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:21.240
 the future

00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:22.220
 that things

00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:22.839
 will happen

00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:23.960
 as God

00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:24.960
 has decreed

00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:25.200
 it.

00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:27.079
 So let's

00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:27.460
 just very

00:20:27.460 --> 00:20:28.140
 briefly talk

00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:28.500
 through the

00:20:28.500 --> 00:20:28.819
 chapter.

00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:29.420
 The detail

00:20:29.420 --> 00:20:30.319
 is interesting

00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:30.980
 for some

00:20:30.980 --> 00:20:31.960
 but it's

00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:32.519
 possibly less

00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:33.680
 important than

00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:34.440
 the big picture.

00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:34.940
 So the bit

00:20:34.940 --> 00:20:35.740
 that we read

00:20:35.740 --> 00:20:36.400
 at the beginning

00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:39.180
 begins with

00:20:39.180 --> 00:20:39.920
 Cyrus who

00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:40.320
 was the king

00:20:40.320 --> 00:20:40.800
 of Persia

00:20:40.800 --> 00:20:41.600
 at that time

00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:42.380
 and then

00:20:42.380 --> 00:20:42.900
 says there

00:20:42.900 --> 00:20:43.200
 will be

00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:43.940
 four kings

00:20:43.940 --> 00:20:44.320
 that will

00:20:44.320 --> 00:20:44.980
 follow him

00:20:44.980 --> 00:20:45.440
 over a

00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:45.860
 period of

00:20:45.860 --> 00:20:46.960
 about 200

00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:47.560
 years.

00:20:48.259 --> 00:20:48.820
 The fourth

00:20:48.820 --> 00:20:49.560
 of these kings

00:20:49.560 --> 00:20:50.080
 is the one

00:20:50.080 --> 00:20:50.519
 who is going

00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:51.180
 to be richest

00:20:51.180 --> 00:20:51.880
 and most

00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:52.580
 influential

00:20:52.580 --> 00:20:53.759
 and that's

00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:54.040
 generally

00:20:54.040 --> 00:20:55.019
 identified as

00:20:55.019 --> 00:20:55.519
 Xerxes.

00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:56.960
 Xerxes you

00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:57.500
 may remember

00:20:57.500 --> 00:20:58.040
 as the king

00:20:58.040 --> 00:20:58.420
 in the book

00:20:58.420 --> 00:20:58.940
 of Esther

00:20:58.940 --> 00:21:01.560
 that Esther

00:21:01.560 --> 00:21:02.400
 and Mordecai

00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:03.880
 have dealings

00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:04.200
 with.

00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:05.680
 He wasn't

00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:06.140
 the last

00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:06.540
 king of

00:21:06.540 --> 00:21:07.040
 Persia

00:21:07.040 --> 00:21:07.880
 but it

00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:08.180
 was the

00:21:08.180 --> 00:21:08.680
 time of

00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:09.120
 Xerxes

00:21:09.120 --> 00:21:10.000
 that the

00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:10.560
 influence

00:21:10.560 --> 00:21:11.000
 and power

00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:11.220
 of the

00:21:11.220 --> 00:21:11.520
 Persian

00:21:11.520 --> 00:21:12.020
 empire

00:21:12.020 --> 00:21:13.520
 started to

00:21:13.520 --> 00:21:13.900
 wane.

00:21:15.040 --> 00:21:15.420
 Xerxes

00:21:15.420 --> 00:21:15.980
 went to

00:21:15.980 --> 00:21:16.700
 war against

00:21:16.700 --> 00:21:17.140
 Greece

00:21:17.140 --> 00:21:17.840
 and he

00:21:17.840 --> 00:21:18.420
 was soundly

00:21:18.420 --> 00:21:18.800
 defeated

00:21:18.800 --> 00:21:19.160
 at the

00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:19.640
 battle of

00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:20.200
 Salamis

00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:21.120
 and the

00:21:21.120 --> 00:21:21.520
 decline

00:21:21.520 --> 00:21:21.820
 of the

00:21:21.820 --> 00:21:22.120
 Persian

00:21:22.120 --> 00:21:22.660
 empire

00:21:22.660 --> 00:21:23.120
 can

00:21:23.120 --> 00:21:23.580
 probably

00:21:23.580 --> 00:21:23.860
 be

00:21:23.860 --> 00:21:24.160
 dated

00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:24.900
 from

00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:25.340
 that.

00:21:27.260 --> 00:21:27.940
 We

00:21:27.940 --> 00:21:28.460
 then have

00:21:28.460 --> 00:21:29.100
 in verse

00:21:29.100 --> 00:21:29.600
 three

00:21:29.600 --> 00:21:30.540
 we have

00:21:30.540 --> 00:21:31.220
 a mighty

00:21:31.220 --> 00:21:31.680
 king

00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:32.280
 who will

00:21:32.280 --> 00:21:32.860
 arise

00:21:32.859 --> 00:21:33.740
 and that

00:21:33.740 --> 00:21:34.240
 king is

00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:34.939
 Alexander

00:21:34.939 --> 00:21:35.979
 the Great.

00:21:36.659 --> 00:21:37.399
 The king

00:21:37.399 --> 00:21:38.399
 who in

00:21:38.399 --> 00:21:38.819
 the early

00:21:38.819 --> 00:21:39.500
 30s

00:21:39.500 --> 00:21:40.439
 looked around

00:21:40.439 --> 00:21:40.879
 him and

00:21:40.879 --> 00:21:41.779
 wept as

00:21:41.779 --> 00:21:42.139
 he said

00:21:42.139 --> 00:21:42.439
 there are

00:21:42.439 --> 00:21:42.979
 no more

00:21:42.979 --> 00:21:43.679
 worlds for

00:21:43.679 --> 00:21:44.519
 me to

00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:45.019
 conquer.

00:21:45.699 --> 00:21:46.039
 An

00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:46.659
 enormously

00:21:46.659 --> 00:21:47.459
 successful

00:21:47.459 --> 00:21:48.019
 leader

00:21:48.019 --> 00:21:49.319
 and general

00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:50.319
 who then

00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:50.899
 died at

00:21:50.899 --> 00:21:51.379
 the age

00:21:51.379 --> 00:21:52.179
 of just

00:21:52.179 --> 00:21:52.979
 32.

00:21:54.379 --> 00:21:54.799
 When

00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:55.259
 Alexander

00:21:55.259 --> 00:21:56.119
 died after

00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:56.639
 a little

00:21:56.639 --> 00:21:56.919
 bit of

00:21:56.919 --> 00:21:57.679
 infighting

00:21:57.679 --> 00:21:58.279
 his

00:21:58.279 --> 00:21:58.599
 kingdom

00:21:58.599 --> 00:21:58.839
 was

00:21:58.839 --> 00:21:59.319
 essentially

00:21:59.319 --> 00:21:59.819
 divided

00:21:59.819 --> 00:22:00.419
 into

00:22:00.419 --> 00:22:01.299
 four.

00:22:01.579 --> 00:22:01.979
 Four

00:22:01.979 --> 00:22:02.299
 different

00:22:02.299 --> 00:22:02.779
 areas

00:22:02.779 --> 00:22:03.099
 which

00:22:03.099 --> 00:22:03.259
 are

00:22:03.259 --> 00:22:03.879
 represented

00:22:03.879 --> 00:22:04.279
 by

00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:04.500
 the

00:22:04.500 --> 00:22:04.940
 points

00:22:04.940 --> 00:22:05.619
 of

00:22:05.619 --> 00:22:06.099
 the

00:22:06.099 --> 00:22:06.480
 compass.

00:22:08.420 --> 00:22:08.639
 Now

00:22:08.639 --> 00:22:08.859
 the

00:22:08.859 --> 00:22:09.519
 key

00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:10.639
 kingdoms

00:22:10.639 --> 00:22:10.980
 that

00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:11.240
 are

00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:12.180
 referred

00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:12.460
 to

00:22:12.460 --> 00:22:12.579
 in

00:22:12.579 --> 00:22:12.799
 this

00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:13.319
 passage

00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:13.539
 are

00:22:13.539 --> 00:22:13.720
 what

00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:13.859
 are

00:22:13.859 --> 00:22:14.099
 called

00:22:14.099 --> 00:22:14.279
 the

00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:14.480
 king

00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:14.639
 of

00:22:14.639 --> 00:22:14.799
 the

00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:15.200
 north

00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:15.759
 and

00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:15.920
 the

00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:16.099
 king

00:22:16.099 --> 00:22:16.240
 of

00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:16.420
 the

00:22:16.420 --> 00:22:16.799
 south.

00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:18.019
 The

00:22:18.019 --> 00:22:18.180
 king

00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:18.339
 of

00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:18.519
 the

00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:18.960
 north

00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:19.839
 is

00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:20.359
 Syria.

00:22:20.819 --> 00:22:21.079
 It

00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:21.299
 is

00:22:21.299 --> 00:22:21.519
 the

00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:22.160
 Seleucian

00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:22.720
 empire

00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:23.079
 in

00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:23.440
 Syria.

00:22:23.940 --> 00:22:24.240
 The

00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:24.420
 king

00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:24.559
 of

00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:24.720
 the

00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:24.960
 south

00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:25.200
 is

00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:25.700
 Egypt.

00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:26.180
 It

00:22:26.180 --> 00:22:26.339
 is

00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:26.539
 the

00:22:26.539 --> 00:22:27.200
 Ptolemaean

00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:28.200
 empire.

00:22:28.859 --> 00:22:29.160
 And

00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:29.339
 these

00:22:29.339 --> 00:22:29.539
 two

00:22:29.539 --> 00:22:29.960
 empires

00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:30.299
 for a

00:22:30.299 --> 00:22:30.559
 long

00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:31.160
 period

00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:31.840
 were in

00:22:31.840 --> 00:22:32.140
 battle

00:22:32.140 --> 00:22:32.400
 with

00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:32.640
 each

00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:33.000
 other

00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:33.460
 for

00:22:33.460 --> 00:22:34.080
 control

00:22:34.080 --> 00:22:34.600
 of

00:22:34.600 --> 00:22:34.860
 that

00:22:34.860 --> 00:22:35.360
 area

00:22:35.360 --> 00:22:36.000
 of

00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:36.180
 the

00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:36.540
 world.

00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:37.200
 And

00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:37.480
 you can

00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:37.800
 if you're

00:22:37.800 --> 00:22:38.040
 so

00:22:38.040 --> 00:22:38.560
 inclined

00:22:38.560 --> 00:22:39.460
 read

00:22:39.460 --> 00:22:39.759
 through

00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:40.019
 from

00:22:40.019 --> 00:22:40.519
 verse 4

00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:40.700
 to

00:22:40.700 --> 00:22:41.340
 verse 20

00:22:41.340 --> 00:22:41.640
 and if

00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:42.120
 you've

00:22:42.120 --> 00:22:42.400
 got a

00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:42.600
 comment

00:22:42.600 --> 00:22:42.880
 you can

00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:43.180
 see the

00:22:43.180 --> 00:22:43.620
 historical

00:22:43.620 --> 00:22:44.380
 side

00:22:44.380 --> 00:22:44.560
 of

00:22:44.560 --> 00:22:44.900
 that.

00:22:45.300 --> 00:22:45.480
 But

00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:45.680
 there's

00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:45.960
 a lot

00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:46.140
 of

00:22:46.140 --> 00:22:46.519
 plotting,

00:22:46.940 --> 00:22:47.300
 there's

00:22:47.300 --> 00:22:47.560
 a lot

00:22:47.560 --> 00:22:47.720
 of

00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:48.240
 treachery,

00:22:48.320 --> 00:22:48.440
 there's

00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:48.700
 a lot

00:22:48.700 --> 00:22:48.860
 of

00:22:48.860 --> 00:22:49.279
 warfare

00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:49.680
 going

00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:50.080
 on.

00:22:50.660 --> 00:22:50.759
 And

00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:51.000
 poor

00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:51.259
 little

00:22:51.259 --> 00:22:51.560
 Israel

00:22:51.560 --> 00:22:51.779
 is

00:22:51.779 --> 00:22:52.040
 caught

00:22:52.040 --> 00:22:52.220
 in

00:22:52.220 --> 00:22:52.340
 the

00:22:52.340 --> 00:22:52.600
 middle.

00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:53.460
 Between

00:22:53.460 --> 00:22:53.840
 Syria

00:22:53.840 --> 00:22:54.060
 and

00:22:54.060 --> 00:22:54.519
 Egypt

00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:55.000
 it

00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:55.140
 is

00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:55.259
 the

00:22:55.259 --> 00:22:55.400
 one

00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:55.579
 that's

00:22:55.579 --> 00:22:55.960
 kind of

00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:56.319
 squeezed

00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:56.579
 in

00:22:56.579 --> 00:22:56.900
 there

00:22:56.900 --> 00:22:57.519
 and

00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:57.779
 never

00:22:57.779 --> 00:22:58.079
 seems

00:22:58.079 --> 00:22:58.259
 to

00:22:58.259 --> 00:22:58.440
 get

00:22:58.440 --> 00:22:58.779
 on

00:22:58.779 --> 00:22:59.420
 very

00:22:59.420 --> 00:22:59.819
 well.

00:23:01.500 --> 00:23:01.700
 You

00:23:01.700 --> 00:23:01.879
 have

00:23:01.879 --> 00:23:02.240
 quite a

00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:02.440
 number

00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:02.599
 of

00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:02.920
 verses

00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:03.640
 that

00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:03.920
 are

00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:04.319
 about

00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:04.960
 just

00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:05.539
 one

00:23:05.539 --> 00:23:06.259
 king

00:23:06.259 --> 00:23:06.960
 who

00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:07.099
 is

00:23:07.099 --> 00:23:07.519
 described

00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:07.740
 in

00:23:07.740 --> 00:23:07.940
 verse

00:23:07.940 --> 00:23:08.460
 21

00:23:08.460 --> 00:23:09.000
 as

00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:09.220
 a

00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:10.019
 contemptible

00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:10.879
 person.

00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:11.379
 We met

00:23:11.379 --> 00:23:11.819
 him before

00:23:11.819 --> 00:23:12.299
 in chapter

00:23:12.299 --> 00:23:12.720
 8.

00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:13.680
 His name

00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:13.920
 is

00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:14.759
 Antiochus

00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:15.819
 Epiphanes.

00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:16.879
 And he

00:23:16.879 --> 00:23:17.519
 was a

00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:17.920
 Syrian

00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:18.339
 ruler

00:23:18.339 --> 00:23:19.200
 who was

00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:20.019
 very cruel,

00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:21.319
 who was

00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:22.140
 very vicious,

00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:23.180
 and by

00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:23.380
 a

00:23:23.380 --> 00:23:23.980
 combination

00:23:23.980 --> 00:23:24.759
 of

00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:25.360
 deceitful

00:23:25.360 --> 00:23:25.980
 diplomacy

00:23:25.980 --> 00:23:27.000
 and

00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:27.320
 brute

00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:27.860
 force,

00:23:28.340 --> 00:23:28.800
 he had

00:23:28.800 --> 00:23:29.160
 a lot

00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:29.340
 of

00:23:29.340 --> 00:23:29.960
 success

00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:30.900
 against

00:23:30.900 --> 00:23:31.420
 Egypt

00:23:31.420 --> 00:23:32.060
 and

00:23:32.060 --> 00:23:32.540
 in

00:23:32.540 --> 00:23:32.980
 controlling

00:23:32.980 --> 00:23:33.540
 the

00:23:33.540 --> 00:23:34.080
 nations

00:23:34.080 --> 00:23:34.660
 round

00:23:34.660 --> 00:23:35.020
 about.

00:23:36.140 --> 00:23:36.580
 And in

00:23:36.580 --> 00:23:37.200
 particular,

00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:37.980
 he was

00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:38.600
 someone who

00:23:38.600 --> 00:23:39.200
 really was

00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:39.660
 against

00:23:39.660 --> 00:23:40.800
 the Jews.

00:23:41.800 --> 00:23:42.180
 As you've

00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:42.700
 heard to

00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:43.480
 briefly

00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:44.500
 in this

00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:44.980
 passage

00:23:44.980 --> 00:23:45.600
 in verse

00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:46.480
 28,

00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:48.700
 it is

00:23:48.700 --> 00:23:49.200
 not the

00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:49.759
 full force

00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:50.140
 of what's

00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:50.440
 happened

00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:50.840
 there.

00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:51.959
 In verse

00:23:51.959 --> 00:23:52.559
 28,

00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:53.439
 it says

00:23:53.439 --> 00:23:53.720
 he will

00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:53.939
 take

00:23:53.939 --> 00:23:54.319
 action

00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:54.699
 against

00:23:54.699 --> 00:23:55.199
 Israel.

00:23:55.779 --> 00:23:55.899
 The

00:23:55.899 --> 00:23:56.359
 action he

00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:56.699
 took on

00:23:56.699 --> 00:23:56.980
 his way

00:23:56.980 --> 00:23:57.379
 back from

00:23:57.379 --> 00:23:57.919
 a campaign

00:23:57.919 --> 00:23:58.519
 in Egypt

00:23:58.519 --> 00:23:59.659
 was extremely

00:23:59.659 --> 00:24:01.419
 cruel and

00:24:01.419 --> 00:24:02.220
 very

00:24:02.220 --> 00:24:02.839
 vicious.

00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:04.379
 But that

00:24:04.379 --> 00:24:04.740
 was only

00:24:04.740 --> 00:24:05.279
 beginning,

00:24:05.959 --> 00:24:06.419
 because the

00:24:06.419 --> 00:24:06.980
 next time

00:24:06.980 --> 00:24:07.619
 Antiochus

00:24:07.619 --> 00:24:08.099
 went down

00:24:08.099 --> 00:24:08.759
 to Egypt,

00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:09.439
 he was

00:24:09.439 --> 00:24:10.599
 defeated by

00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:11.720
 the upcoming

00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:12.740
 Roman army.

00:24:12.859 --> 00:24:13.179
 Rome, of

00:24:13.179 --> 00:24:13.559
 course, would

00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:13.859
 be the

00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:14.799
 power in

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:15.359
 the future.

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 And as

00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:17.179
 he went

00:24:17.179 --> 00:24:17.659
 home,

00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:18.819
 he vented

00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:19.500
 his fury

00:24:19.500 --> 00:24:20.659
 against

00:24:20.660 --> 00:24:21.540
 Israel.

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 And one

00:24:23.300 --> 00:24:23.560
 of the

00:24:23.560 --> 00:24:23.920
 things he

00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:24.220
 did, and

00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:24.560
 again we

00:24:24.560 --> 00:24:25.040
 talked about

00:24:25.040 --> 00:24:25.380
 this a

00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:25.720
 couple of

00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:26.259
 weeks ago,

00:24:26.840 --> 00:24:27.360
 one of the

00:24:27.360 --> 00:24:27.820
 things he

00:24:27.820 --> 00:24:28.820
 did was

00:24:28.820 --> 00:24:29.460
 to stop

00:24:29.460 --> 00:24:30.160
 the normal

00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:30.940
 sacrifices

00:24:30.940 --> 00:24:31.740
 in the

00:24:31.740 --> 00:24:32.160
 temple,

00:24:32.600 --> 00:24:33.160
 to set

00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:33.500
 up an

00:24:33.500 --> 00:24:34.200
 altar to

00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:34.620
 Zeus

00:24:34.620 --> 00:24:35.060
 there,

00:24:35.460 --> 00:24:35.960
 and to

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 sacrifice

00:24:36.580 --> 00:24:37.300
 pigs on

00:24:37.300 --> 00:24:37.720
 it, real

00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:38.380
 anathema

00:24:38.380 --> 00:24:39.400
 to the

00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:39.840
 Jews.

00:24:41.100 --> 00:24:41.620
 Antioch

00:24:41.620 --> 00:24:42.480
 Episanes

00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:43.420
 was a

00:24:43.420 --> 00:24:43.860
 cruel,

00:24:44.320 --> 00:24:44.940
 godless

00:24:44.940 --> 00:24:45.720
 man, and

00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:46.000
 you can

00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:46.580
 see that

00:24:46.580 --> 00:24:47.320
 if you

00:24:47.320 --> 00:24:47.720
 read through

00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:48.200
 the verses

00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:49.140
 in the

00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:49.539
 chapter.

00:24:50.740 --> 00:24:51.259
 Now so

00:24:51.259 --> 00:24:52.100
 far we

00:24:52.100 --> 00:24:52.259
 have

00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:52.680
 something

00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:53.220
 that is

00:24:53.220 --> 00:24:53.960
 historically

00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:54.779
 very

00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:55.299
 accurate.

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 But then

00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:56.940
 when we

00:24:56.940 --> 00:24:57.279
 come to

00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:58.039
 verse 36

00:24:58.039 --> 00:24:58.960
 it's a

00:24:58.960 --> 00:24:59.500
 lot more

00:24:59.500 --> 00:25:00.200
 difficult to

00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:00.720
 see what's

00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:01.360
 going on.

00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:02.980
 It looks

00:25:02.980 --> 00:25:03.480
 as if it's

00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:04.140
 still talking

00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:04.480
 about

00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:05.360
 Antiochus,

00:25:05.860 --> 00:25:06.539
 but there's

00:25:06.539 --> 00:25:07.100
 nothing in

00:25:07.100 --> 00:25:07.819
 his life

00:25:07.819 --> 00:25:08.740
 that corresponds

00:25:08.740 --> 00:25:09.700
 to what's

00:25:09.700 --> 00:25:10.140
 there, and

00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:10.720
 indeed nothing

00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:11.880
 in the

00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:12.759
 lives of

00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:13.180
 his

00:25:13.180 --> 00:25:14.420
 successors.

00:25:14.420 --> 00:25:15.880
 So what's

00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:16.320
 going on

00:25:16.320 --> 00:25:16.680
 here?

00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:18.680
 Well, one

00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:19.880
 suggestion, one

00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:20.900
 thing that

00:25:20.900 --> 00:25:21.460
 people would

00:25:21.460 --> 00:25:22.100
 hold to

00:25:22.100 --> 00:25:23.140
 is that

00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:23.539
 what we

00:25:23.539 --> 00:25:24.200
 see here

00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:25.539
 is Antiochus

00:25:25.539 --> 00:25:26.420
 as a

00:25:26.420 --> 00:25:27.140
 type, as a

00:25:27.140 --> 00:25:27.940
 foreshadowing

00:25:27.940 --> 00:25:28.740
 of what

00:25:28.740 --> 00:25:29.400
 will come

00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:30.460
 in the

00:25:30.460 --> 00:25:31.660
 end days.

00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:32.120
 A

00:25:32.120 --> 00:25:32.740
 foreshadowing

00:25:32.740 --> 00:25:33.320
 of someone

00:25:33.320 --> 00:25:33.920
 who's even

00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:34.980
 worse, who

00:25:34.980 --> 00:25:35.680
 will completely

00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:36.840
 fulfil the

00:25:36.840 --> 00:25:37.279
 prophecy

00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:38.160
 here.

00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:39.200
 The person

00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:39.400
 who is

00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:40.060
 described in

00:25:40.060 --> 00:25:40.539
 the Bible

00:25:40.539 --> 00:25:41.279
 as the

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:42.160
 Antichrist

00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:43.000
 or the

00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:44.039
 man of

00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:44.420
 sin.

00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:45.759
 Now, if I

00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:46.319
 pursue this

00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:46.920
 view just a

00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:47.339
 little bit

00:25:47.339 --> 00:25:48.579
 further, the

00:25:48.579 --> 00:25:49.639
 70 weeks that

00:25:49.639 --> 00:25:50.000
 are talked

00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:50.460
 about in

00:25:50.460 --> 00:25:51.159
 Daniel, 70

00:25:51.159 --> 00:25:51.700
 periods of

00:25:51.700 --> 00:25:52.619
 seven years,

00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:53.539
 and within

00:25:53.539 --> 00:25:54.039
 them you

00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:54.639
 see at the

00:25:54.639 --> 00:25:54.920
 end of

00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:55.779
 week 69,

00:25:56.379 --> 00:25:56.720
 God's

00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:57.359
 anointed is

00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:57.819
 put to

00:25:57.819 --> 00:25:58.639
 death, so

00:25:58.639 --> 00:25:59.000
 that could

00:25:59.000 --> 00:25:59.359
 be a

00:25:59.359 --> 00:25:59.899
 reference to

00:25:59.899 --> 00:26:00.240
 the Lord

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:00.599
 Jesus.

00:26:01.420 --> 00:26:01.759
 And then

00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:02.139
 the thought

00:26:02.139 --> 00:26:02.519
 is there's

00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:02.940
 quite a

00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:03.659
 long gap,

00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:04.559
 gap of at

00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:05.119
 least around

00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:06.220
 2,000 years

00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:07.319
 in there

00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:08.339
 before the

00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:09.279
 70th week.

00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:10.420
 Before the

00:26:10.420 --> 00:26:11.079
 70th week,

00:26:11.159 --> 00:26:11.519
 the church

00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:12.220
 is taken out

00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:12.639
 of the world,

00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:13.039
 as we read

00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:13.599
 in Ephesians,

00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.000
 1 Thessalonians

00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:15.879
 chapter 4,

00:26:16.459 --> 00:26:17.619
 and then this

00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:18.799
 man is let

00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:19.439
 loose.

00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:19.939
 He makes a

00:26:19.939 --> 00:26:20.279
 number of

00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:21.779
 alliances, but

00:26:21.779 --> 00:26:22.480
 at the end

00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:23.159
 he really

00:26:23.159 --> 00:26:24.019
 rises against

00:26:24.019 --> 00:26:24.839
 Israel, makes

00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:25.339
 his base

00:26:25.339 --> 00:26:25.759
 there as he

00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:26.500
 fights wars

00:26:26.500 --> 00:26:27.419
 on all

00:26:27.419 --> 00:26:27.919
 fronts.

00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:28.959
 And in the

00:26:28.959 --> 00:26:29.539
 end he is

00:26:29.539 --> 00:26:30.379
 roundly defeated

00:26:30.379 --> 00:26:32.319
 by God and

00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:33.399
 by his

00:26:33.399 --> 00:26:34.079
 army.

00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:35.559
 Now, I'll give

00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:36.219
 that to you for

00:26:36.219 --> 00:26:37.279
 your consideration.

00:26:37.819 --> 00:26:38.519
 It is one view,

00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:38.879
 as I say,

00:26:38.959 --> 00:26:39.480
 this is a

00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:40.859
 difficult and

00:26:40.859 --> 00:26:41.299
 in many ways

00:26:41.299 --> 00:26:41.759
 controversial

00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:42.919
 area, but

00:26:42.919 --> 00:26:43.399
 here is one

00:26:43.399 --> 00:26:44.859
 possibility for

00:26:44.859 --> 00:26:45.139
 it.

00:26:45.940 --> 00:26:46.240
 But let's

00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:46.879
 move on to

00:26:46.879 --> 00:26:48.579
 chapter 12

00:26:48.579 --> 00:26:49.779
 as we come

00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:50.259
 towards the

00:26:50.259 --> 00:26:50.740
 conclusion.

00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:52.579
 If chapter 12

00:26:52.579 --> 00:26:53.259
 might make us

00:26:53.259 --> 00:26:54.139
 despair for the

00:26:54.139 --> 00:26:54.759
 world around

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:55.720
 us, that there

00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:56.299
 is so much

00:26:56.299 --> 00:26:57.419
 evil going on,

00:26:57.579 --> 00:26:58.200
 there are so

00:26:58.200 --> 00:26:59.019
 many people of

00:26:59.019 --> 00:27:00.279
 ill will in

00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:00.960
 leadership, and

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:01.539
 we can see that

00:27:01.539 --> 00:27:02.500
 today as much as

00:27:02.500 --> 00:27:03.259
 Daniel could see

00:27:03.259 --> 00:27:03.720
 it or the

00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:05.299
 vision presented

00:27:05.299 --> 00:27:06.059
 it to him.

00:27:06.619 --> 00:27:07.480
 There is a lot

00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:08.159
 in the world that

00:27:08.159 --> 00:27:08.759
 should cause us

00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.480
 real distress as

00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:11.039
 Christians.

00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:13.200
 But chapter 12

00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:13.980
 is there to

00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:15.420
 give comfort to

00:27:15.420 --> 00:27:16.140
 God's people.

00:27:16.980 --> 00:27:17.799
 It starts with a

00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:18.440
 time of great

00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:18.879
 distress.

00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:19.740
 Jesus called it

00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:20.579
 the tribulation,

00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:22.119
 but ultimately

00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:23.680
 it says God's

00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:25.299
 people will be

00:27:25.299 --> 00:27:26.240
 triumphant.

00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:27.460
 One of the

00:27:27.460 --> 00:27:28.019
 things, one of

00:27:28.019 --> 00:27:28.519
 the glorious

00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:29.299
 things that will

00:27:29.299 --> 00:27:30.599
 happen is that

00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:31.240
 those who have

00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:32.119
 died believing

00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:33.500
 in God, believing

00:27:33.500 --> 00:27:35.200
 in Jesus, will be

00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:36.460
 raised to life

00:27:36.460 --> 00:27:36.900
 again.

00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:38.019
 And here in

00:27:38.019 --> 00:27:38.700
 Daniel in the

00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:40.019
 Old Testament, we

00:27:40.019 --> 00:27:40.740
 have something that

00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:41.519
 has developed in

00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.160
 much more detail in

00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:43.920
 the New Testament.

00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:44.559
 In the immediate

00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:45.680
 context, Daniel may

00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:46.740
 be talking specifically

00:27:46.740 --> 00:27:49.319
 about the Jews, but

00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.079
 as we look forward, we

00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:52.099
 know from what Paul

00:27:52.099 --> 00:27:52.740
 writes and what we

00:27:52.740 --> 00:27:54.160
 read in Revelation

00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:55.799
 and elsewhere that

00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.680
 everyone will be

00:27:57.680 --> 00:27:59.200
 raised to life.

00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:00.019
 All those who have

00:28:00.019 --> 00:28:01.220
 died will be raised

00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:02.339
 and they will be

00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:03.900
 raised either to

00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:06.059
 eternal life or to

00:28:06.059 --> 00:28:07.779
 eternal judgment.

00:28:07.779 --> 00:28:08.799
 That's in verse 2 of

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:09.619
 chapter 12.

00:28:10.579 --> 00:28:11.359
 Multitudes who

00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:12.299
 sleep in the dust of

00:28:12.299 --> 00:28:12.859
 the earth will

00:28:12.859 --> 00:28:14.539
 awake, some to

00:28:14.539 --> 00:28:16.319
 eternal life, others

00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:17.700
 to shame and

00:28:17.700 --> 00:28:19.680
 everlasting contempt.

00:28:20.639 --> 00:28:22.319
 All of us will be

00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:22.720
 judged.

00:28:23.539 --> 00:28:24.980
 All of us will need to

00:28:24.980 --> 00:28:26.480
 face the Lord Jesus.

00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:28.720
 If we haven't trusted

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:29.940
 in the Lord Jesus, if we

00:28:29.940 --> 00:28:31.000
 haven't put our faith in

00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:31.700
 him as the one who

00:28:31.700 --> 00:28:33.139
 died on the cross to

00:28:33.139 --> 00:28:34.839
 take our sins, that

00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:36.420
 judgment will be to

00:28:36.420 --> 00:28:38.279
 eternal condemnation.

00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.300
 If our trust is in

00:28:40.300 --> 00:28:41.980
 Jesus, if we have put

00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:43.500
 our faith in him, we

00:28:43.500 --> 00:28:44.360
 will be raised to

00:28:44.360 --> 00:28:45.340
 eternal life.

00:28:45.900 --> 00:28:47.759
 And, says Daniel, there

00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.740
 will be rewards, special

00:28:49.740 --> 00:28:51.320
 rewards for those who

00:28:51.320 --> 00:28:52.820
 lead many to

00:28:52.820 --> 00:28:53.400
 righteousness.

00:28:54.140 --> 00:28:55.039
 I would take it that

00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.460
 that is those who

00:28:56.460 --> 00:28:57.680
 particularly communicate

00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:58.920
 effectively the message

00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.580
 of hope through God,

00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:01.640
 through the Lord Jesus,

00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:03.259
 us, and to, through

00:29:03.259 --> 00:29:04.640
 that, our instrument

00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:05.920
 when bringing others

00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:06.840
 to him.

00:29:08.020 --> 00:29:08.400
 And I think,

00:29:08.460 --> 00:29:09.860
 ultimately, this is the

00:29:09.860 --> 00:29:11.460
 key message we need to

00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:12.580
 take from these

00:29:12.580 --> 00:29:13.040
 chapters.

00:29:13.860 --> 00:29:15.980
 God is in control, and

00:29:15.980 --> 00:29:16.920
 when the Lord Jesus

00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:18.880
 returns, there will be a

00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.420
 judgment, there will be

00:29:20.420 --> 00:29:22.160
 reward, and there will

00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:23.280
 be punishment.

00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:26.180
 Those who trust in

00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:27.820
 Jesus will rise to

00:29:27.820 --> 00:29:28.740
 eternal life.

00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:30.640
 those who don't will

00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:31.960
 rise to eternal

00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:32.359
 judgment.

00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:33.759
 That is a very solemn

00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.359
 thought, isn't it?

00:29:35.819 --> 00:29:36.779
 And if we are Christians

00:29:36.779 --> 00:29:38.599
 today, as we see a world

00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.039
 around us with people who

00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:41.259
 don't know the Lord Jesus,

00:29:41.779 --> 00:29:42.859
 perhaps have never heard

00:29:42.859 --> 00:29:44.180
 the message about him,

00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:44.940
 it should be a real

00:29:44.940 --> 00:29:46.779
 challenge to us to tell

00:29:46.779 --> 00:29:48.380
 them the gospel of Jesus,

00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:49.599
 that they may have hope

00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.160
 that they will be raised to

00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.700
 eternal life and not to

00:29:53.700 --> 00:29:54.180
 judgment.

00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:57.079
 And perhaps all of us, as

00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:58.200
 we think about these things,

00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:59.000
 we need to examine

00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:00.779
 ourselves and to make

00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:02.779
 sure that our trust is in

00:30:02.779 --> 00:30:04.559
 Jesus and that we know

00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:06.480
 that one day we will go

00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.259
 to be with him.

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 Now, our time is pretty

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:11.180
 well gone, so I'm not

00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:11.920
 going to go into the

00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:13.340
 latter part of chapter 12,

00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:14.519
 which is about timing.

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 There's three and a half

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 years in there.

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 If you want to talk about

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 it later, I'm happy to do

00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:19.019
 that.

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 I think the key mistake

00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.160
 from that, there's a lot

00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:24.120
 we don't know about the

00:30:24.120 --> 00:30:24.960
 future, and particularly

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:25.720
 about the timing.

00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.319
 We don't know when the

00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.279
 Lord Jesus will return.

00:30:30.220 --> 00:30:31.380
 But let me end by

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 returning where we

00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:33.680
 started to the general

00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:34.180
 election.

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 If you vote in the

00:30:36.420 --> 00:30:37.799
 general election, your

00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:38.839
 vote will probably be

00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.259
 based on a combination of

00:30:40.259 --> 00:30:40.680
 things.

00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:43.360
 Part of it will be your

00:30:43.360 --> 00:30:43.940
 priorities.

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 Which of the parties'

00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.900
 priorities chime with you?

00:30:48.600 --> 00:30:50.019
 Part of it will be what the

00:30:50.019 --> 00:30:51.019
 parties have promised.

00:30:51.019 --> 00:30:53.519
 Is it realistic to expect

00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:54.740
 what they've said?

00:30:55.139 --> 00:30:57.079
 And is it desirable that

00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:58.900
 these things should happen?

00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:01.319
 But ultimately, I suspect,

00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.180
 for many of us, it's going

00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:04.940
 to come down to trust.

00:31:05.700 --> 00:31:07.500
 Do we really trust these

00:31:07.500 --> 00:31:09.099
 politicians to do what they

00:31:09.099 --> 00:31:09.460
 say?

00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.440
 Do we trust that they

00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.359
 actually are able to if they

00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:13.920
 want to?

00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:15.579
 And do we trust that they

00:31:15.579 --> 00:31:17.900
 have our best interests at

00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:18.339
 heart?

00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:20.519
 In our country, here, time and

00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:21.460
 time again during the

00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:22.879
 election, the level of

00:31:22.879 --> 00:31:24.900
 trust in politicians is

00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:25.920
 very low.

00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:27.660
 And we may well vote in

00:31:27.660 --> 00:31:28.579
 the expectation that

00:31:28.579 --> 00:31:30.339
 ultimately we may well be

00:31:30.339 --> 00:31:31.200
 let down.

00:31:32.299 --> 00:31:33.619
 I hope as we've studied

00:31:33.619 --> 00:31:34.759
 the book of Daniel, this

00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:35.759
 section, but the whole of

00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:37.500
 the book, that we can see

00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:40.039
 that God can be trusted to

00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:41.579
 care for his people.

00:31:42.639 --> 00:31:43.720
 Parts of the book come

00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:45.299
 across as a bit weird,

00:31:45.579 --> 00:31:47.500
 certainly very difficult to

00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:48.220
 understand.

00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:50.500
 Parts of it are very heavy.

00:31:50.980 --> 00:31:52.119
 That you really need to

00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:53.759
 think carefully about what's

00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:55.440
 being said, and even then

00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.559
 you may not fully understand

00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:58.099
 it.

00:31:59.019 --> 00:32:00.839
 But the big message, the

00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:02.160
 message in chapter 1, when

00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:03.420
 Daniel and his friends take a

00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:05.299
 stand on eating food, and God

00:32:05.299 --> 00:32:05.960
 honors that.

00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:08.319
 The message in chapter 3, when

00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:09.339
 Shadrach, Meshach, and

00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:11.079
 Abednego refuse to bow down to

00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:12.980
 the idol and are thrown to the

00:32:12.980 --> 00:32:13.639
 fiery furnace.

00:32:14.220 --> 00:32:16.240
 The message in chapter 6, as

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.000
 Daniel refuses to stop his daily

00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.799
 habit of prayer and is thrown

00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:20.859
 into the lion's den.

00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.539
 And the message of the more

00:32:22.539 --> 00:32:24.519
 difficult bits towards the end.

00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:26.380
 It's the same message.

00:32:27.140 --> 00:32:29.759
 If we are faithful to God, if we

00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.740
 live faithfully in difficult

00:32:31.740 --> 00:32:34.480
 times in a lion's den world, as

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.660
 Darcy's title says, then God will

00:32:37.660 --> 00:32:39.779
 be faithful to us.

00:32:39.779 --> 00:32:42.359
 We may face opposition.

00:32:42.539 --> 00:32:44.599
 We will face opposition if we're

00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.660
 standing firm as Christians.

00:32:47.259 --> 00:32:49.839
 We may face great difficulties in

00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:50.379
 our lives.

00:32:50.420 --> 00:32:51.599
 And there may be times when we're

00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:52.940
 looking around us at what's

00:32:52.940 --> 00:32:54.579
 happening, and we say, why?

00:32:54.660 --> 00:32:57.559
 Why, God, do you allow this?

00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.619
 But ultimately, God is in control,

00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.299
 and we can trust him for the

00:33:03.299 --> 00:33:03.720
 future.

00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.680
 As John says in his epistle, the

00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.200
 one who is in us is greater than

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.600
 the one who is in the world.

00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:12.620
 So let's go away from this series

00:33:12.620 --> 00:33:14.240
 with our confidence in God

00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.980
 increased, with an understanding

00:33:16.980 --> 00:33:19.279
 of how great our Heavenly Father

00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:21.920
 is, that he is in control of

00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.880
 everything, and that ultimately he

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.519
 will be seen to triumph as that

00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:28.460
 victory has already been won by the

00:33:28.460 --> 00:33:29.640
 Lord Jesus on the cross.

00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:31.880
 God will be seen to triumph as

00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.220
 Jesus is recognized as the King of

00:33:34.220 --> 00:33:36.279
 Kings and Lord of Lords.

00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.279
 God will be seen to you in the

00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:39.279
 world.

00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:40.279
 God will be seen to you in the

00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:41.279
 world.

00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.019
 Let's join together in prayer.

00:33:45.019 --> 00:33:46.339
 Our Father, we thank you for your

00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:46.660
 word.

00:33:46.779 --> 00:33:47.960
 We thank you that although this

00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:49.859
 passage is in many ways very

00:33:49.859 --> 00:33:52.279
 difficult, yet what it brings across

00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.019
 to us is a God who is in control, a

00:33:55.019 --> 00:33:57.819
 God who cares for his people, and a

00:33:57.819 --> 00:34:00.559
 God who ultimately will vindicate those

00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:01.779
 who trust in him.

00:34:02.379 --> 00:34:03.740
 We thank you for the Lord Jesus.

00:34:03.740 --> 00:34:05.940
 We thank you for his death for us on

00:34:05.940 --> 00:34:06.440
 the cross.

00:34:06.539 --> 00:34:07.859
 We thank you for his resurrection,

00:34:08.420 --> 00:34:09.940
 which gives us the assurance that

00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:12.260
 those who die knowing him will also

00:34:12.260 --> 00:34:14.320
 be raised to eternal life.

00:34:14.739 --> 00:34:15.940
 Help us to trust him.

00:34:16.500 --> 00:34:19.179
 Help us to be faithful in this time,

00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:21.880
 and help us to be those who, like

00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.739
 Daniel, put our confidence in God and

00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.159
 see his blessing in our lives.

00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:29.599
 We thank you for this time together.

00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:31.179
 We thank you for your word.

00:34:31.179 --> 00:34:33.659
 We pray you continue to be with us in

00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:34.940
 the time of fellowship we have

00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:35.940
 together over lunch.

00:34:36.399 --> 00:34:38.179
 We give our thanks in Jesus' name.

00:34:38.859 --> 00:34:39.259
 Amen.