WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:16.199 Good morning. This morning's sermon will be different than usual. If you are a guest with us this morning, I want you to know that we normally preach verse by verse expositions through a book, the regular practice of our church. 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:22.719 We are presently working our way through Paul's letter to the Romans, where we just concluded chapter 11. 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:34.879 This morning, I want us to think together, though, about Christian unity as we have some news to announce to our membership, which I will share with you in just a bit. 00:00:34.879 --> 00:00:41.140 So a little break from Romans for an important matter. We will look at a number of texts today. 00:00:41.140 --> 00:00:46.859 So, and again, I don't love preaching. It doesn't start with a text and isn't text driven. 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:52.299 But from time to time, it's important and necessary for us to do otherwise. 00:00:52.719 --> 00:01:02.239 But I'd like for us to begin in Romans chapter 15. So if you could join me there. Romans chapter 15, verses 5 and 6. 00:01:12.819 --> 00:01:18.539 We will exposit this text at length. So this is not your Romans 15, 5 and 6 sermon. 00:01:18.540 --> 00:01:48.520 We read, 00:01:48.519 --> 00:02:18.519 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:28.620 It's the very reason we get up in the morning that Christ would be known in our lives, amongst our families, our co-workers, and to the very ends of the earth. 00:02:28.620 --> 00:02:32.680 We want the praise of Christ to be sung amongst all peoples. 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:38.160 And so we go to all the various places that God sends us. 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:50.719 And Paul here is saying he hopes that the Roman Christ followers and you and I would be given grace for Christian unity so that the Lord Jesus Christ would receive glory. 00:02:50.900 --> 00:03:01.000 Not the only way he receives glory, but Paul here says that it is a way, and I would contend an important way, that he receives glory. 00:03:01.740 --> 00:03:05.359 But we don't always agree, do we? 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:19.620 Sometimes we have personal conflict, and the Bible is replete with commands and instruction for how we are to set aside our preferences, bear with one another, with compassion, and reconcile. 00:03:20.440 --> 00:03:23.400 I think this is a church that does that very well. 00:03:24.460 --> 00:03:28.020 Sometimes we have convictional differences. 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:33.780 Faithful Christians haven't always seen eye to eye on everything. 00:03:33.780 --> 00:03:37.419 If you're paying attention at all, you're very aware of this. 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:42.180 Differences in understanding about what the Bible teaches. 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:45.460 This has always been true. 00:03:45.860 --> 00:03:52.460 It's been an ancient part of the church to find disagreement amongst one another. 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.340 It is true amongst us. 00:03:55.659 --> 00:03:58.539 We don't all see eye to eye on everything. 00:03:58.539 --> 00:04:05.840 We don't all agree on all things, and this creates some genuine challenges for unity. 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:12.439 It would be much easier if we agreed on everything all the time, but this is also impossible. 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:18.899 Our disagreements certainly create the need to ask that God would be gracious to us, 00:04:19.420 --> 00:04:25.039 that we might live in the type of harmony that exalts Jesus Christ. 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:32.080 So, how are we to be agreeable while disagreeing? 00:04:32.420 --> 00:04:37.439 How do we disagree with charity, an old word for love, for one another? 00:04:38.220 --> 00:04:46.500 And we do so by employing, employing well, the practice of theological triage. 00:04:46.820 --> 00:04:51.300 I know that many of you may already be tired of me talking about this, but I think it's really important, 00:04:51.300 --> 00:04:53.480 so I'm just going to keep doing so. 00:04:54.720 --> 00:05:01.000 Triage is the process of assigning urgency or importance to a matter. 00:05:02.020 --> 00:05:07.780 If a bus that is full of people were in an accident, and that number was brought into an emergency room, 00:05:08.400 --> 00:05:15.620 those patients would be ranked for treatment from most severe need to least severe need. 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:19.120 This is emergency room triage. 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:24.800 This can, and I argue, should also be done theologically. 00:05:25.660 --> 00:05:28.079 If you believe that the Bible teaches a doctrine, 00:05:28.459 --> 00:05:33.100 and a well-meaning Christian brother or sister disagrees with your view, 00:05:33.860 --> 00:05:34.840 what are you to do? 00:05:35.899 --> 00:05:41.120 How important, or perhaps unimportant, is said disagreement? 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.579 Theological triage helps us to determine this. 00:05:46.579 --> 00:05:52.240 We need to be able to think in this way and to do so regularly and quickly. 00:05:53.459 --> 00:05:55.319 Now, at this point, I want to be clear. 00:05:55.439 --> 00:06:00.399 The term theological triage was coined, as far as I can tell, by Al Mohler, 00:06:00.779 --> 00:06:03.759 the current president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.000 So it's a recent term. 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:13.199 However, the concept can be seen historically in the creation of confessions and creeds, 00:06:13.779 --> 00:06:18.019 Christians carefully pinning doctrinal standards for the sake of agreement, 00:06:18.500 --> 00:06:23.680 and, more importantly, as I will show you this morning in the Bible. 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:28.060 So, as a modern practice under that term, 00:06:28.459 --> 00:06:33.980 it's also a very ancient practice that starts in the Scripture itself. 00:06:34.900 --> 00:06:38.300 So I want to lay out for you this idea of theological triage. 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.319 Again, some of you are familiar with it, but some of you may not be. 00:06:43.379 --> 00:06:49.560 Theological triage divides doctrinal issues into four different categories. 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.300 They're not creatively named. 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:59.639 They're primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary, or first, second, third, and fourth order doctrines. 00:06:59.980 --> 00:07:02.220 To explain them to you, I'm going to take them out of order 00:07:02.220 --> 00:07:05.300 because I think it helps our understanding of them. 00:07:06.060 --> 00:07:08.399 So the first I want to address is the fourth, 00:07:08.459 --> 00:07:14.220 the fourth order doctrinal category or quaternary doctrines. 00:07:14.220 --> 00:07:17.600 And these are things that are just unimportant. 00:07:18.820 --> 00:07:22.700 Have a view and an opinion, but it really doesn't matter. 00:07:22.880 --> 00:07:26.980 And we don't come up with these very often because we're sensible people 00:07:26.980 --> 00:07:29.120 and we have a lot going on, 00:07:29.640 --> 00:07:32.320 and so we don't tend to muse about things like this. 00:07:32.420 --> 00:07:36.300 So my common example for this one is their life on other planets. 00:07:37.300 --> 00:07:40.940 And I've been asked this question by typically young men 00:07:40.939 --> 00:07:42.779 because they have too much time on their hands. 00:07:43.779 --> 00:07:46.219 And I'll tell you that my answer to them is, 00:07:46.379 --> 00:07:48.699 I don't know and I don't care. 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:50.240 It's unimportant. 00:07:50.620 --> 00:07:53.379 Interesting to think about, but it doesn't really matter. 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:58.959 The second I want to talk about is third order doctrine 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.600 or tertiary doctrine. 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:04.659 These are things that are not unimportant. 00:08:04.659 --> 00:08:07.019 They are, in fact, important, 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.259 but they're important for the individual. 00:08:10.939 --> 00:08:14.399 There's commands in the Bible that we have to have some mind toward. 00:08:14.500 --> 00:08:15.759 What do we think this teaches 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.219 and how am I going to practice it in my life? 00:08:18.259 --> 00:08:20.779 And you may find that you could differ from someone else 00:08:20.779 --> 00:08:23.199 that you have regular fellowship with, 00:08:23.259 --> 00:08:24.920 and that be okay. 00:08:25.819 --> 00:08:29.439 I think this area of our lives is a place in which we serve each other so well 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.860 because we ought to hold it importantly 00:08:31.860 --> 00:08:35.159 and perhaps make a case to other Christians. 00:08:35.460 --> 00:08:36.779 How do we grow in maturity 00:08:36.779 --> 00:08:41.220 if we assume everything we believe the Bible teaches on the surface is right? 00:08:41.339 --> 00:08:41.839 Well, no. 00:08:41.980 --> 00:08:44.379 There's things that we grow in and we need to be taught in 00:08:44.379 --> 00:08:47.659 and we need to be pressing one another on. 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:53.299 So some examples of people who disagree about alcohol as an example. 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:54.720 There are people who are teetoters, 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:56.299 think we should never ever drink alcohol, 00:08:56.299 --> 00:09:00.439 and there are people who think it's okay in moderation to drink alcohol. 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:05.000 What kind of TV or movies you might consume? 00:09:05.140 --> 00:09:08.140 There are some clear, off-limit types of things to consume, 00:09:08.260 --> 00:09:11.540 but some people may have a problem with a particular TV show 00:09:11.540 --> 00:09:14.860 and somebody else may not have a problem with that show. 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:19.300 Schooling choices is a hot one these days. 00:09:19.880 --> 00:09:23.160 Is it okay to send your children to public school 00:09:23.160 --> 00:09:25.940 or off to private or homeschool? 00:09:26.020 --> 00:09:29.380 These are important conversations for us to be having. 00:09:29.379 --> 00:09:32.659 Our family, homeschools. 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.500 I would give you a theological foundation for why we do that. 00:09:36.740 --> 00:09:39.720 I would also give you lots of practical application. 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.679 The way my wife and I think, 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:47.539 it leads us to the conclusion that we ought to school our children at home. 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:49.399 But you might see things differently, 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:55.240 and this isn't a reason for me to put you in an unfaithful category. 00:09:55.580 --> 00:09:57.639 We're all growing and we're all learning 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:01.340 and we're all doing the best we can. 00:10:02.379 --> 00:10:04.840 So, to find this in the scripture, 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:08.559 you can turn back just a page to Romans chapter 14. 00:10:09.139 --> 00:10:11.899 I just want to show you an example of it. 00:10:11.980 --> 00:10:14.500 There's a number of places that Paul speaks to this. 00:10:15.379 --> 00:10:17.699 But here you can see very clearly, beginning in verse 1, 00:10:17.700 --> 00:10:20.540 as for the one who is weak in faith, 00:10:20.860 --> 00:10:21.560 welcome him, 00:10:22.160 --> 00:10:25.000 but not to quarrel over opinions. 00:10:27.180 --> 00:10:30.680 Welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 00:10:32.060 --> 00:10:34.480 One person believes he may eat anything, 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.460 while the weak person eats only vegetables. 00:10:37.660 --> 00:10:39.920 This had to do with some Jewish customs. 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.539 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, 00:10:43.659 --> 00:10:46.939 and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, 00:10:47.419 --> 00:10:48.500 for God has welcomed him. 00:10:49.439 --> 00:10:51.779 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.860 It is before his own master that he stands or falls, 00:10:54.959 --> 00:10:55.959 and he will be upheld, 00:10:56.079 --> 00:10:58.339 for the Lord is able to make him stand. 00:10:59.339 --> 00:11:01.659 One person esteems one day as better than another, 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:03.459 while another esteems all days alike. 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.459 Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 00:11:07.460 --> 00:11:09.740 The one who observes the day, 00:11:09.940 --> 00:11:11.360 observes it in honor of the Lord. 00:11:11.680 --> 00:11:12.600 The one who eats, 00:11:13.580 --> 00:11:14.780 eats in honor of the Lord, 00:11:15.100 --> 00:11:16.560 since he gives thanks to God. 00:11:16.900 --> 00:11:18.240 While the one who abstains, 00:11:18.400 --> 00:11:20.759 abstains in honor of the Lord, 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.780 and gives thanks to God. 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:25.460 So, different cultural issues, 00:11:25.560 --> 00:11:27.100 when Paul is writing this, 00:11:27.220 --> 00:11:28.400 but all the same, 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.200 tertiary types of things. 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:33.120 Look at the way he's pressing at, 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.360 you could go on to read the rest of chapter 14, 00:11:35.420 --> 00:11:36.680 and the beginning of 15. 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.379 He's pressing at unity and harmony, 00:11:39.379 --> 00:11:40.139 right, 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.419 for the sake of exalting Christ 00:11:42.419 --> 00:11:45.539 on these types of matters. 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:50.979 So, those are tertiary types of doctrines. 00:11:51.620 --> 00:11:53.699 It seems to me that most of the conflict 00:11:53.699 --> 00:11:54.500 in local churches 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:56.799 is when people take tertiary doctrines, 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.479 and they promote them to secondary, 00:11:58.839 --> 00:12:00.039 or in many cases, 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.459 into primary position. 00:12:02.740 --> 00:12:04.699 You can't possibly be a Christian 00:12:04.700 --> 00:12:07.040 if you don't see this thing 00:12:07.040 --> 00:12:09.240 the way I see this thing, 00:12:09.300 --> 00:12:10.540 and it's very dangerous, 00:12:10.740 --> 00:12:12.480 and we must be careful. 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.200 So, let me go back up to the top 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:17.480 and talk briefly about 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.120 first order doctrines, 00:12:20.220 --> 00:12:22.900 or primary doctrines. 00:12:22.899 --> 00:12:25.860 These are the doctrines that are important 00:12:25.860 --> 00:12:28.319 for Christian unity. 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:29.980 These are the doctrines 00:12:29.980 --> 00:12:32.019 that must be believed 00:12:32.019 --> 00:12:33.399 in order for somebody 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:35.959 to be in Christ. 00:12:36.319 --> 00:12:39.899 These are the most important doctrines. 00:12:39.959 --> 00:12:40.539 When we talk about 00:12:40.539 --> 00:12:41.720 the clarity of Scripture, 00:12:41.860 --> 00:12:42.679 these are the doctrines 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:43.039 that we would say 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:44.759 the Bible is abundantly clear 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.340 on these things. 00:12:48.779 --> 00:12:49.179 Examples, 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:50.579 and there are a lot of examples here, 00:12:50.580 --> 00:12:53.220 but the deity of Jesus Christ. 00:12:54.139 --> 00:12:55.500 We cannot dismiss 00:12:55.500 --> 00:12:57.379 that Jesus Christ was, in fact, God, 00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:58.600 because if he wasn't God, 00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:00.840 then he was a liar and a lunatic, 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:01.820 and we should reject 00:13:01.820 --> 00:13:02.840 everything that he said. 00:13:03.500 --> 00:13:04.980 He was, in fact, 00:13:05.700 --> 00:13:07.440 God incarnate. 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:08.800 You must believe in the deity 00:13:08.800 --> 00:13:09.900 of Jesus Christ 00:13:09.900 --> 00:13:11.360 to be a believer. 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:14.420 Justification by grace 00:13:14.420 --> 00:13:15.720 through faith 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:17.680 in Christ alone. 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:19.120 We've just walked 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:20.319 through some difficult chapters 00:13:20.319 --> 00:13:21.939 in Paul's exhortation 00:13:21.939 --> 00:13:22.919 to the Romans. 00:13:23.339 --> 00:13:25.359 We believe as a church 00:13:25.359 --> 00:13:26.899 in sovereign election, 00:13:27.139 --> 00:13:29.639 but wherever you fall in this, 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:31.779 in the minutia of this, 00:13:32.439 --> 00:13:33.179 you need to believe 00:13:33.179 --> 00:13:34.439 that we're saved by grace 00:13:34.439 --> 00:13:36.719 through faith in Christ. 00:13:36.839 --> 00:13:38.239 That's as far as 00:13:38.239 --> 00:13:39.939 the fisticuffs go for me. 00:13:40.139 --> 00:13:41.059 If you can affirm 00:13:41.059 --> 00:13:42.120 that you needed God 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:42.939 to save you 00:13:42.939 --> 00:13:44.439 and that God will keep you 00:13:44.439 --> 00:13:46.120 to the end, 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.240 then you and I 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.159 can be great friends 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.759 because we're in Christ. 00:13:52.179 --> 00:13:54.279 These first order things 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:55.139 are the things 00:13:55.139 --> 00:13:55.820 that we're meant 00:13:55.820 --> 00:13:57.120 to fight for 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:58.600 and to die for. 00:13:58.860 --> 00:14:00.179 This is the stuff 00:14:00.179 --> 00:14:01.860 that needs to stay central 00:14:01.860 --> 00:14:03.700 to what we do together. 00:14:04.340 --> 00:14:06.120 It's extremely important 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.700 that we get this correct. 00:14:09.019 --> 00:14:10.139 It grieves me 00:14:10.139 --> 00:14:11.139 to watch Christians 00:14:11.139 --> 00:14:12.159 across our nation, 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:14.279 mostly happening online, 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:15.679 just be ripped apart 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:17.100 by things that are secondary 00:14:17.100 --> 00:14:18.500 or tertiary 00:14:18.500 --> 00:14:19.899 when we agree 00:14:19.899 --> 00:14:21.279 on these first order 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.120 and most important things. 00:14:24.339 --> 00:14:26.100 The enemy is so very pleased 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:27.500 to find us infighting 00:14:27.500 --> 00:14:29.039 about less important stuff. 00:14:29.740 --> 00:14:31.019 Not remembering 00:14:31.019 --> 00:14:32.000 that we agree 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.919 on the most important stuff. 00:14:35.299 --> 00:14:36.439 Those doctrines 00:14:36.439 --> 00:14:37.360 that push back 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:37.899 the darkness 00:14:37.899 --> 00:14:39.059 of this world 00:14:39.059 --> 00:14:40.279 because souls are saved 00:14:40.959 --> 00:14:41.639 by the truth 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:42.519 of the gospel 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:43.720 of Jesus Christ. 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:46.240 We need to help each other 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:47.039 to do this. 00:14:47.779 --> 00:14:48.480 I inevitably 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:49.159 am going to become 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:50.299 distracted by something 00:14:50.299 --> 00:14:51.340 at some time 00:14:51.340 --> 00:14:52.240 and you are welcome 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:53.340 to remind me 00:14:53.340 --> 00:14:54.279 about the stuff 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:55.179 I'm supposed to be 00:14:55.179 --> 00:14:56.100 fighting and dying for. 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:57.340 Don't let me fight 00:14:57.340 --> 00:14:58.460 and die for something 00:14:58.460 --> 00:14:59.939 that's not this important. 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:01.319 This is the stuff 00:15:01.319 --> 00:15:03.220 that we live and die for. 00:15:05.500 --> 00:15:06.519 Very interestingly, 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:08.699 during our members gathering 00:15:08.699 --> 00:15:09.460 earlier, 00:15:09.939 --> 00:15:11.059 Ernie actually read this text. 00:15:11.059 --> 00:15:11.519 I'm just going to read 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:11.919 a little bit 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:13.079 from the book of Jude. 00:15:13.219 --> 00:15:15.579 This is verse 3 and 4. 00:15:16.119 --> 00:15:17.199 There he says, 00:15:17.619 --> 00:15:17.899 Beloved, 00:15:17.939 --> 00:15:18.719 although I was very eager 00:15:18.719 --> 00:15:19.399 to write to you 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:20.599 about our common salvation, 00:15:21.419 --> 00:15:22.539 I found it necessary 00:15:22.539 --> 00:15:23.979 to write appealing to you 00:15:23.979 --> 00:15:25.639 to contend for the faith 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.139 that was once for all 00:15:27.139 --> 00:15:29.039 delivered to the saints. 00:15:29.199 --> 00:15:29.339 Right? 00:15:29.419 --> 00:15:30.279 I think this is what 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:30.919 he's talking about. 00:15:31.459 --> 00:15:33.039 Primary doctrine. 00:15:33.139 --> 00:15:34.719 To contend for the faith 00:15:34.719 --> 00:15:36.339 that was once for all 00:15:36.339 --> 00:15:37.339 delivered to the saints. 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:38.719 Here's why I think that. 00:15:39.099 --> 00:15:39.979 Verse 4 says, 00:15:39.980 --> 00:15:41.620 For certain people 00:15:41.620 --> 00:15:43.759 have crept in unnoticed 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:44.840 who long ago 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:45.480 were designated 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:46.720 for this condemnation. 00:15:47.740 --> 00:15:48.639 Ungodly people 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:50.460 who pervert the grace 00:15:50.460 --> 00:15:51.159 of our God 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:52.779 into sensuality. 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:54.200 They were cheap grace 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:54.879 gospel people. 00:15:54.980 --> 00:15:55.320 They were saying, 00:15:55.420 --> 00:15:55.860 if you just claim 00:15:55.860 --> 00:15:56.360 the name of Christ, 00:15:56.420 --> 00:15:57.120 you can live however 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:58.720 you want to 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.139 and deny our only 00:16:00.139 --> 00:16:01.200 Master and Lord, 00:16:01.820 --> 00:16:02.460 Jesus Christ. 00:16:02.920 --> 00:16:03.000 Right? 00:16:03.680 --> 00:16:04.779 In this day, 00:16:04.899 --> 00:16:05.420 Jude is saying 00:16:05.420 --> 00:16:06.440 to these Christians, 00:16:06.580 --> 00:16:07.300 you have got 00:16:07.299 --> 00:16:08.279 to bring people 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:09.240 back to justification 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:09.899 by grace 00:16:09.899 --> 00:16:10.579 through faith 00:16:10.579 --> 00:16:11.379 in Christ 00:16:11.379 --> 00:16:12.099 and help them 00:16:12.099 --> 00:16:12.579 to see that 00:16:12.579 --> 00:16:13.259 that faith 00:16:13.259 --> 00:16:13.859 is a faith 00:16:13.859 --> 00:16:15.819 that will work. 00:16:16.339 --> 00:16:16.899 So, 00:16:17.339 --> 00:16:18.479 let's contend 00:16:18.479 --> 00:16:19.279 well together 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:19.879 and I think 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:20.740 we do this 00:16:20.740 --> 00:16:21.679 well. 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:22.439 Primary 00:16:22.439 --> 00:16:24.039 doctrine. 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:26.079 And then lastly, 00:16:27.079 --> 00:16:27.699 we have 00:16:27.699 --> 00:16:28.599 second order 00:16:28.599 --> 00:16:30.240 or secondary 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:31.779 doctrine. 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:33.079 And this is 00:16:33.079 --> 00:16:33.620 a little more 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:34.120 difficult. 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:34.860 I don't have 00:16:34.860 --> 00:16:35.539 a scripture 00:16:35.539 --> 00:16:36.860 reference for you. 00:16:36.940 --> 00:16:37.740 The one thing 00:16:37.740 --> 00:16:38.460 that comes to mind 00:16:38.460 --> 00:16:38.799 for me 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:39.799 is the division 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:40.799 between Barnabas 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:41.340 and Paul 00:16:41.340 --> 00:16:42.700 when they had 00:16:42.700 --> 00:16:43.419 taken Mark 00:16:43.419 --> 00:16:44.100 with them 00:16:44.100 --> 00:16:45.019 who's a relative 00:16:45.019 --> 00:16:45.560 we think 00:16:45.560 --> 00:16:46.379 of Barnabas 00:16:46.379 --> 00:16:47.259 and Mark 00:16:47.259 --> 00:16:47.980 abandoned them 00:16:47.980 --> 00:16:48.399 because he was 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:48.860 fearful. 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:50.220 And when they 00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:50.759 got ready 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:51.480 to take another 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:51.919 journey, 00:16:52.500 --> 00:16:53.299 Paul refused 00:16:53.299 --> 00:16:54.019 to take Mark 00:16:54.019 --> 00:16:54.500 with them 00:16:54.500 --> 00:16:55.360 and Barnabas 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:56.279 really wanted 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:56.919 Mark to go 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:57.419 and so there 00:16:57.419 --> 00:16:58.480 arose amongst 00:16:58.480 --> 00:16:58.820 them 00:16:58.820 --> 00:17:00.080 what Luke 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.080 calls a sharp 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:01.740 disagreement. 00:17:02.740 --> 00:17:03.440 And I take 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:03.899 that to mean 00:17:03.899 --> 00:17:04.339 it wasn't 00:17:04.339 --> 00:17:04.740 friendly. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:05.420 It probably 00:17:05.420 --> 00:17:05.980 wasn't the 00:17:05.980 --> 00:17:06.480 way they 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:07.259 should have 00:17:07.259 --> 00:17:08.500 disagreed. 00:17:08.980 --> 00:17:09.639 But all the 00:17:09.639 --> 00:17:09.859 same, 00:17:09.940 --> 00:17:10.460 they go 00:17:10.460 --> 00:17:11.220 separate ways. 00:17:11.379 --> 00:17:11.680 Barnabas 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:12.779 takes John 00:17:12.779 --> 00:17:13.180 Mark with 00:17:13.180 --> 00:17:13.420 him. 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:15.019 Paul goes 00:17:15.019 --> 00:17:15.759 another way. 00:17:16.500 --> 00:17:16.980 I think the 00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:17.500 thing we see 00:17:17.500 --> 00:17:18.259 that's wonderful, 00:17:18.379 --> 00:17:18.960 the redemptive 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:19.240 thing, 00:17:19.299 --> 00:17:19.639 as we see 00:17:19.639 --> 00:17:20.599 later on, 00:17:21.259 --> 00:17:21.859 Paul is 00:17:21.859 --> 00:17:22.579 back in 00:17:22.579 --> 00:17:23.519 ministry with 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:24.200 Barnabas 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:25.200 as well as 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:26.420 with Mark. 00:17:26.539 --> 00:17:26.859 There's been 00:17:26.859 --> 00:17:27.519 some restoration 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:28.160 that has 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.539 happened in 00:17:29.539 --> 00:17:30.000 that case. 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:30.420 So there's 00:17:30.420 --> 00:17:31.339 an issue 00:17:31.339 --> 00:17:31.839 at hand 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:32.420 that causes 00:17:32.420 --> 00:17:33.039 them still 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:33.240 to be 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:33.660 faithful to 00:17:33.660 --> 00:17:33.920 Christ. 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:34.420 They still 00:17:34.420 --> 00:17:34.900 go on 00:17:34.900 --> 00:17:35.620 mission to 00:17:35.620 --> 00:17:36.019 spread the 00:17:36.019 --> 00:17:36.460 good news. 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:38.000 First order 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:39.059 primary doctrine 00:17:39.059 --> 00:17:39.839 stayed intact, 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:40.579 but they went 00:17:40.579 --> 00:17:41.480 separate ways 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:42.000 because they 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:42.559 weren't sure 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:44.339 how they 00:17:44.339 --> 00:17:45.240 should go. 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:46.980 So maybe 00:17:46.980 --> 00:17:47.700 we see it 00:17:47.700 --> 00:17:48.920 there. 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:49.799 This category 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:50.940 are things 00:17:50.940 --> 00:17:51.180 that are 00:17:51.180 --> 00:17:52.799 important for 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:53.940 church or 00:17:53.940 --> 00:17:55.259 perhaps ministry 00:17:55.259 --> 00:17:56.559 fellowship. 00:17:57.140 --> 00:17:57.759 Those things 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:58.839 that we ought 00:17:58.839 --> 00:17:59.379 to agree 00:17:59.379 --> 00:18:00.159 on to 00:18:00.159 --> 00:18:01.259 remain 00:18:01.259 --> 00:18:02.779 institutionally 00:18:02.779 --> 00:18:03.980 together. 00:18:04.659 --> 00:18:05.879 These doctrines 00:18:05.879 --> 00:18:06.179 are going 00:18:06.179 --> 00:18:06.919 to define 00:18:06.919 --> 00:18:08.419 our practice 00:18:08.419 --> 00:18:10.039 and possibly 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:11.099 define what 00:18:11.099 --> 00:18:11.659 we think 00:18:11.659 --> 00:18:12.539 is or 00:18:12.539 --> 00:18:13.299 isn't 00:18:13.299 --> 00:18:13.740 sin. 00:18:14.139 --> 00:18:14.379 It would be 00:18:14.379 --> 00:18:15.899 important to 00:18:15.899 --> 00:18:16.779 locate ourselves 00:18:16.779 --> 00:18:18.379 on certain 00:18:18.379 --> 00:18:18.959 issues. 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:20.799 Some examples. 00:18:21.939 --> 00:18:22.819 What is a 00:18:22.819 --> 00:18:23.579 church's view 00:18:23.579 --> 00:18:24.759 on divorce 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:26.000 and or 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:26.779 remarriage? 00:18:27.779 --> 00:18:28.379 Why does 00:18:28.379 --> 00:18:28.879 that matter? 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:29.819 Because we 00:18:29.819 --> 00:18:30.480 collectively, 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:31.899 we're a 00:18:31.899 --> 00:18:32.439 congregational 00:18:32.439 --> 00:18:32.879 church, we 00:18:32.879 --> 00:18:33.299 believe in 00:18:33.299 --> 00:18:33.500 church 00:18:33.500 --> 00:18:33.960 discipline. 00:18:34.139 --> 00:18:34.460 Well, what 00:18:34.460 --> 00:18:34.899 are we going 00:18:34.899 --> 00:18:35.299 to call 00:18:35.299 --> 00:18:36.240 sin in 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:36.720 these matters? 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:36.960 It's 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:37.519 important that 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:38.000 we think 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:39.240 about this 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:40.980 together. 00:18:42.099 --> 00:18:43.019 Another example 00:18:43.019 --> 00:18:43.639 is whether or 00:18:43.639 --> 00:18:44.159 not a church 00:18:44.159 --> 00:18:44.960 believes in 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:46.240 the regulative 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:46.980 principle. 00:18:46.980 --> 00:18:48.440 that is to 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:49.240 say, if we 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:49.759 see something 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:50.319 commanded in 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:50.680 the Bible 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:51.460 for us to 00:18:51.460 --> 00:18:51.700 do when 00:18:51.700 --> 00:18:52.120 we're gathered 00:18:52.120 --> 00:18:52.779 together, we 00:18:52.779 --> 00:18:53.259 should do 00:18:53.259 --> 00:18:55.000 that without 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:55.339 fail. 00:18:55.940 --> 00:18:56.579 And if we 00:18:56.579 --> 00:18:57.539 don't see it 00:18:57.539 --> 00:18:58.599 commanded, then 00:18:58.599 --> 00:18:59.799 we shouldn't 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:00.819 do that. 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:02.000 So on a 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:02.400 Sunday morning 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:02.660 when our 00:19:02.660 --> 00:19:03.220 church gathers 00:19:03.220 --> 00:19:04.539 together, you 00:19:04.539 --> 00:19:05.160 will not see 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:05.620 interpretive 00:19:05.620 --> 00:19:05.940 dancing. 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:08.259 We don't 00:19:08.259 --> 00:19:08.680 find this in 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:09.059 the scripture. 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:10.339 Don't give me 00:19:10.339 --> 00:19:10.960 some example of 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:11.220 David. 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:12.519 We don't find 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:12.980 it commanded 00:19:12.980 --> 00:19:13.440 to the church 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:14.220 to do this 00:19:14.220 --> 00:19:14.920 thing in the 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:15.120 Bible. 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:15.559 And so we're 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:16.599 not going to 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:17.099 do that 00:19:17.099 --> 00:19:17.899 thing together 00:19:17.899 --> 00:19:18.980 when we 00:19:18.980 --> 00:19:19.219 gather. 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:19.839 This is the 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:20.719 regulative 00:19:20.719 --> 00:19:21.299 principle. 00:19:21.419 --> 00:19:21.659 We should 00:19:21.659 --> 00:19:22.719 agree on 00:19:22.719 --> 00:19:23.019 that. 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:23.599 You may 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:24.079 find that 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:24.480 you don't 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:24.740 and you 00:19:24.740 --> 00:19:25.059 may want 00:19:25.059 --> 00:19:25.359 to go to 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:25.659 a church 00:19:25.659 --> 00:19:25.980 where 00:19:25.980 --> 00:19:26.879 interpretive 00:19:26.879 --> 00:19:27.159 dancing 00:19:27.159 --> 00:19:28.480 happens on 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:28.759 a Sunday 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:29.079 morning. 00:19:29.779 --> 00:19:30.579 As a little 00:19:30.579 --> 00:19:31.480 aside, Martin 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:32.000 Lloyd-Jones, 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:32.899 when he was 00:19:32.899 --> 00:19:34.299 hired, the 00:19:34.299 --> 00:19:34.740 church that he 00:19:34.740 --> 00:19:35.379 preached his 00:19:35.379 --> 00:19:36.639 life at, was 00:19:36.639 --> 00:19:37.500 known for 00:19:37.500 --> 00:19:38.459 their pageantry. 00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:39.159 They put on 00:19:39.159 --> 00:19:39.879 plays on 00:19:39.879 --> 00:19:40.500 Sunday mornings. 00:19:41.219 --> 00:19:41.619 And his 00:19:41.619 --> 00:19:42.659 first Sunday 00:19:42.659 --> 00:19:43.639 there, he 00:19:43.639 --> 00:19:44.679 dragged the 00:19:44.679 --> 00:19:45.719 pulpit, it 00:19:45.719 --> 00:19:46.179 was movable 00:19:46.180 --> 00:19:46.720 like this 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:47.680 one, but 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:48.200 he dragged 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:48.560 the wooden 00:19:48.560 --> 00:19:49.320 pulpit across 00:19:49.320 --> 00:19:49.700 the stage. 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:49.880 You can 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:50.519 just imagine 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:51.100 in the room 00:19:51.100 --> 00:19:51.660 hearing a 00:19:51.660 --> 00:19:52.340 wooden pulpit 00:19:52.340 --> 00:19:52.960 being dragged 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:53.500 across a 00:19:53.500 --> 00:19:54.380 wooden stage. 00:19:54.620 --> 00:19:55.380 He dragged 00:19:55.380 --> 00:19:55.779 it to the 00:19:55.779 --> 00:19:56.080 center. 00:19:56.620 --> 00:19:56.960 He took 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:57.360 out a 00:19:57.360 --> 00:19:57.940 hammer and 00:19:57.940 --> 00:19:58.440 nails out 00:19:58.440 --> 00:19:58.660 of his 00:19:58.660 --> 00:19:59.259 pocket and 00:19:59.259 --> 00:20:00.120 he hammered 00:20:00.120 --> 00:20:00.799 the pulpit 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:01.400 to the center 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:02.620 of the stage 00:20:02.620 --> 00:20:03.400 there in that 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:03.900 church building. 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:05.440 He was a 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:05.900 regulative 00:20:05.900 --> 00:20:06.900 principle guy 00:20:06.900 --> 00:20:07.340 and he said 00:20:07.340 --> 00:20:07.720 the preaching 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:08.100 of God's 00:20:08.100 --> 00:20:08.380 word is going 00:20:08.380 --> 00:20:08.960 to be central 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:09.400 to what we 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:09.920 do together 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:11.120 as a church 00:20:11.120 --> 00:20:11.900 and they 00:20:11.900 --> 00:20:12.720 never put on 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:13.319 another pageant 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:13.600 there. 00:20:14.380 --> 00:20:16.640 Again, another 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:17.299 good and 00:20:17.299 --> 00:20:18.720 classic example 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.480 is a church's 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:21.680 view on 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:22.140 baptism. 00:20:22.700 --> 00:20:23.420 What do 00:20:23.420 --> 00:20:24.259 you believe 00:20:24.259 --> 00:20:24.980 but what do 00:20:24.980 --> 00:20:25.819 we believe 00:20:25.819 --> 00:20:27.539 together as 00:20:27.539 --> 00:20:28.259 it concerns 00:20:28.259 --> 00:20:29.579 baptism? 00:20:29.900 --> 00:20:31.019 We find 00:20:31.019 --> 00:20:31.900 denominational 00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:32.740 differences over 00:20:32.740 --> 00:20:33.200 this with 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:33.960 brothers that 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:34.920 we celebrate, 00:20:35.259 --> 00:20:36.460 rejoice with, 00:20:36.539 --> 00:20:37.299 we're so happy 00:20:37.299 --> 00:20:38.200 and thankful to 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:38.860 be gospel 00:20:38.860 --> 00:20:39.600 partners with 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:40.019 them but 00:20:40.019 --> 00:20:40.599 we are not 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:41.359 serving in 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:42.240 a church 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:42.659 with them 00:20:42.659 --> 00:20:43.119 because we 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:43.679 hold a 00:20:43.679 --> 00:20:44.759 different view 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:46.240 on this 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:46.879 issue. 00:20:48.139 --> 00:20:49.019 Which brings 00:20:49.019 --> 00:20:50.159 me to my 00:20:50.159 --> 00:20:50.779 aforementioned 00:20:50.779 --> 00:20:51.879 announcement. 00:20:53.639 --> 00:20:54.179 Ty Brunette 00:20:54.179 --> 00:20:55.539 is a faithful 00:20:55.539 --> 00:20:55.899 brother. 00:20:56.919 --> 00:20:57.399 He is in 00:20:57.399 --> 00:20:58.119 full agreement 00:20:58.119 --> 00:20:58.480 with the 00:20:58.480 --> 00:20:59.179 church on 00:20:59.179 --> 00:21:00.819 primary doctrine. 00:21:01.139 --> 00:21:01.439 He has been 00:21:01.439 --> 00:21:02.139 serving us 00:21:02.139 --> 00:21:02.919 well, although 00:21:02.919 --> 00:21:03.659 briefly, but 00:21:03.659 --> 00:21:05.240 well as an 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:05.839 elder here. 00:21:06.299 --> 00:21:06.899 But he has 00:21:06.899 --> 00:21:07.399 come to find 00:21:07.399 --> 00:21:08.859 himself disagreeing 00:21:08.859 --> 00:21:09.740 with us on 00:21:09.740 --> 00:21:10.399 the secondary 00:21:10.399 --> 00:21:12.179 doctrine of 00:21:12.179 --> 00:21:12.539 baptism. 00:21:13.419 --> 00:21:13.740 Now he 00:21:13.740 --> 00:21:14.639 didn't go 00:21:14.639 --> 00:21:15.919 looking for a 00:21:15.919 --> 00:21:16.519 different conviction 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:17.099 on it. 00:21:17.740 --> 00:21:18.539 He stumbled 00:21:18.539 --> 00:21:19.419 across it in 00:21:19.419 --> 00:21:20.639 his study and 00:21:20.639 --> 00:21:21.079 has become 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:22.500 convinced of 00:21:22.500 --> 00:21:22.919 a different 00:21:22.919 --> 00:21:23.979 position. 00:21:24.859 --> 00:21:25.479 Now we, 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:26.919 as a church 00:21:26.919 --> 00:21:27.559 in total, I 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:28.079 mean, are 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:29.399 credo-baptists 00:21:29.399 --> 00:21:30.019 which means that 00:21:30.019 --> 00:21:30.779 we believe that 00:21:30.779 --> 00:21:31.719 the only proper 00:21:31.719 --> 00:21:32.500 recipients of 00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:34.859 baptism are 00:21:34.859 --> 00:21:35.740 individuals who 00:21:35.740 --> 00:21:36.159 have made 00:21:36.159 --> 00:21:36.719 credible 00:21:36.719 --> 00:21:37.459 professions of 00:21:37.459 --> 00:21:38.500 faith in 00:21:38.500 --> 00:21:38.900 Christ. 00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:39.519 It's the 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:40.160 careful work 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:40.740 that we do 00:21:40.740 --> 00:21:41.420 as Baptists. 00:21:41.500 --> 00:21:41.900 We want to 00:21:41.900 --> 00:21:42.539 be able to, 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:43.440 with the 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:43.920 fallible 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:44.700 confidence that 00:21:44.700 --> 00:21:45.619 we have, say 00:21:45.619 --> 00:21:46.660 yes, we 00:21:46.660 --> 00:21:47.099 believe that 00:21:47.099 --> 00:21:47.599 this person 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:48.619 is in fact 00:21:48.619 --> 00:21:49.119 in the 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:49.380 faith. 00:21:49.740 --> 00:21:50.200 They make 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:50.680 a profession 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:51.019 of that 00:21:51.019 --> 00:21:51.579 faith in 00:21:51.579 --> 00:21:52.140 being baptized. 00:21:52.660 --> 00:21:53.400 We affirm 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:54.160 that in 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:55.720 baptizing them. 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:56.380 This is the 00:21:56.380 --> 00:21:57.619 credo-baptist 00:21:57.619 --> 00:21:58.619 position. 00:21:58.880 --> 00:21:59.220 And I want to 00:21:59.220 --> 00:21:59.660 be clear, it's 00:21:59.660 --> 00:22:00.140 done poorly 00:22:00.140 --> 00:22:00.660 in a lot of 00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:01.279 places, but we 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:01.859 try to do it 00:22:01.859 --> 00:22:02.839 well in the 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:03.880 life of our 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:04.200 church. 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:06.339 Ty has come 00:22:06.339 --> 00:22:06.740 to 00:22:06.740 --> 00:22:08.159 paedo-baptist 00:22:08.159 --> 00:22:08.859 convictions. 00:22:09.539 --> 00:22:10.039 Before I say 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:10.519 anything further 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:11.319 about paedo-baptism, 00:22:11.379 --> 00:22:11.740 I just want to 00:22:11.740 --> 00:22:12.299 say there's a 00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:12.599 lot of 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:13.259 paedo-baptists 00:22:13.259 --> 00:22:13.579 that are 00:22:13.579 --> 00:22:14.199 terrible and 00:22:14.199 --> 00:22:14.639 heretical. 00:22:16.259 --> 00:22:16.659 Ty is not 00:22:16.659 --> 00:22:17.459 affiliating with 00:22:17.459 --> 00:22:18.000 any of that. 00:22:18.199 --> 00:22:19.259 So if 00:22:19.259 --> 00:22:20.199 paedo-baptist, 00:22:20.419 --> 00:22:21.099 infant-baptist 00:22:21.099 --> 00:22:21.720 pops into your 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:22.720 head and you 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:23.519 think immediately 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:25.539 of baptismal 00:22:25.539 --> 00:22:26.059 regeneration, 00:22:26.879 --> 00:22:27.299 that's not 00:22:27.299 --> 00:22:27.500 Ty. 00:22:27.899 --> 00:22:28.439 If you think of 00:22:28.439 --> 00:22:28.879 the Catholics, 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:30.039 that's not 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:30.240 Ty. 00:22:30.339 --> 00:22:31.539 This is good, 00:22:31.919 --> 00:22:32.339 faithful, 00:22:32.339 --> 00:22:33.699 gospel-believing 00:22:33.699 --> 00:22:35.079 paedo-baptism 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:35.899 that Ty is 00:22:35.899 --> 00:22:36.220 holding. 00:22:37.099 --> 00:22:37.599 And paedo-baptism 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:39.099 means that he, 00:22:39.299 --> 00:22:39.819 along with many 00:22:39.819 --> 00:22:40.259 others, 00:22:40.679 --> 00:22:41.079 believe that 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:41.919 baptism should 00:22:41.919 --> 00:22:42.819 be applied to 00:22:42.819 --> 00:22:43.799 individuals who 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:44.159 have made 00:22:44.159 --> 00:22:44.939 credible professions 00:22:44.939 --> 00:22:45.480 of faith in 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:46.399 Christ and 00:22:46.399 --> 00:22:48.500 also to their 00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:48.839 children. 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:49.879 So you may 00:22:49.879 --> 00:22:51.019 know this as 00:22:51.019 --> 00:22:51.759 infant baptism. 00:22:52.699 --> 00:22:53.759 In our circle, 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:54.799 most commonly, 00:22:55.159 --> 00:22:55.659 we see that 00:22:55.659 --> 00:22:56.599 Presbyterians 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:58.019 practice this 00:22:58.019 --> 00:22:59.379 form of 00:22:59.379 --> 00:22:59.759 baptism. 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:01.519 We have 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:02.500 worked together 00:23:02.500 --> 00:23:03.140 over the past 00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:03.799 months to 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:04.680 sort this 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:05.259 disagreement 00:23:05.259 --> 00:23:06.119 through. 00:23:06.579 --> 00:23:07.019 We're not 00:23:07.019 --> 00:23:07.279 going to get 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:07.740 into the weeds 00:23:07.740 --> 00:23:08.160 this morning 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:08.599 of the 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:09.799 difference in 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:10.339 the views. 00:23:11.099 --> 00:23:11.799 I can tell 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:12.839 you that it 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:13.579 sharpened me. 00:23:13.740 --> 00:23:14.220 I hope that 00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:14.859 it served 00:23:14.859 --> 00:23:15.740 Ty through 00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:16.440 the process. 00:23:17.539 --> 00:23:18.259 This is the 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:18.839 first time I've 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:19.359 had to really 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:20.579 engage the 00:23:20.579 --> 00:23:21.579 topic with a 00:23:21.579 --> 00:23:22.240 person who I 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:23.059 love dearly 00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:23.839 sitting across 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:24.279 from me, 00:23:25.019 --> 00:23:26.579 getting frustrated 00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:27.019 with them and 00:23:27.019 --> 00:23:27.359 then having to 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:28.039 apologize immediately 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:28.379 for being 00:23:28.379 --> 00:23:28.720 frustrated. 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:30.259 with them. 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:31.980 I told him in 00:23:31.980 --> 00:23:32.379 the process, 00:23:32.500 --> 00:23:32.879 I'm becoming 00:23:32.879 --> 00:23:33.660 more a Baptist 00:23:33.660 --> 00:23:34.359 because of this 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:34.900 conversation. 00:23:35.619 --> 00:23:36.799 And he said, 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:37.180 and you'll 00:23:37.180 --> 00:23:37.480 appreciate, 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:38.240 amen. 00:23:38.779 --> 00:23:39.039 He said, 00:23:39.140 --> 00:23:39.400 good, 00:23:39.980 --> 00:23:40.339 good. 00:23:41.140 --> 00:23:42.000 I can assure 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:42.980 you that Ty 00:23:42.980 --> 00:23:43.940 cares to honor 00:23:43.940 --> 00:23:44.980 the Lord as 00:23:44.980 --> 00:23:45.539 he seeks to 00:23:45.539 --> 00:23:46.859 be faithful to 00:23:46.859 --> 00:23:47.920 the Bible and 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:48.500 his conscience 00:23:48.500 --> 00:23:49.440 concerning it. 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:51.180 This is a 00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:52.819 Bible conviction 00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:54.720 that he's come 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:54.940 to. 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:57.059 I am so proud 00:23:57.059 --> 00:23:57.740 of the way that 00:23:57.740 --> 00:23:58.240 he has handled 00:23:58.240 --> 00:23:59.660 himself as he 00:23:59.660 --> 00:24:00.420 has disagreed. 00:24:00.620 --> 00:24:01.380 He's just at 00:24:01.380 --> 00:24:02.080 every step 00:24:02.080 --> 00:24:03.140 been so careful, 00:24:03.779 --> 00:24:05.040 so generous 00:24:05.040 --> 00:24:05.860 and kind. 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:07.120 He hasn't 00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:07.740 picked it up as 00:24:07.740 --> 00:24:08.640 an agenda and 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:09.200 gone raging 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:09.660 around the 00:24:09.660 --> 00:24:10.580 church trying to 00:24:10.580 --> 00:24:11.120 convince other 00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:11.800 people of it. 00:24:12.500 --> 00:24:13.500 He started with 00:24:13.500 --> 00:24:13.779 me. 00:24:13.900 --> 00:24:14.380 He spoke with 00:24:14.380 --> 00:24:14.860 our elders. 00:24:15.080 --> 00:24:16.200 He's just done 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:17.759 a great job of 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.500 explaining where 00:24:19.500 --> 00:24:21.580 he is on his 00:24:21.580 --> 00:24:22.040 position. 00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:23.840 There is, 00:24:24.060 --> 00:24:24.620 by God's 00:24:24.620 --> 00:24:25.540 great grace, 00:24:26.140 --> 00:24:27.279 harmony amongst 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:28.000 your church's 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:28.859 leadership. 00:24:29.539 --> 00:24:30.379 I'm glad for 00:24:30.379 --> 00:24:30.619 that. 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:31.899 I'm so thankful 00:24:31.899 --> 00:24:32.500 that God has 00:24:32.500 --> 00:24:33.440 worked in us. 00:24:34.019 --> 00:24:34.539 I think, 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:35.700 thinking clearly, 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:36.599 how should we 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:37.319 feel about this? 00:24:37.379 --> 00:24:37.819 How should we 00:24:37.819 --> 00:24:39.279 act according 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:39.799 to it? 00:24:40.579 --> 00:24:41.980 And I hope we'll 00:24:41.980 --> 00:24:42.639 set an example 00:24:42.639 --> 00:24:43.579 for you all. 00:24:44.579 --> 00:24:45.220 That said, 00:24:45.879 --> 00:24:46.279 Ty has stepped 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:46.839 down from his 00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:47.619 role as an 00:24:47.619 --> 00:24:47.799 elder. 00:24:48.859 --> 00:24:49.779 Ty is 00:24:49.779 --> 00:24:50.879 confessional as 00:24:50.879 --> 00:24:51.299 we are. 00:24:51.379 --> 00:24:51.839 He believes that 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:52.460 it's important for 00:24:52.460 --> 00:24:53.399 us to say what we 00:24:53.399 --> 00:24:54.279 believe the Bible 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.940 says, and he 00:24:56.940 --> 00:24:57.599 sees that we 00:24:57.599 --> 00:24:58.099 ought to be in 00:24:58.099 --> 00:24:59.119 agreement on this 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:00.519 particular matter. 00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:01.519 It's secondary. 00:25:01.779 --> 00:25:02.480 It's not tertiary. 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:03.319 It's a secondary 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:04.779 matter. 00:25:04.899 --> 00:25:05.799 So he has stepped 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:06.399 down as an elder. 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:07.960 He's going to be 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:08.639 seeking what the 00:25:08.639 --> 00:25:09.460 Lord has for him 00:25:09.460 --> 00:25:10.160 next. 00:25:11.019 --> 00:25:11.539 He's going to 00:25:11.539 --> 00:25:12.319 remain employed 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:13.240 with us as a 00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:14.160 pastoral assistant 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:15.180 through the end 00:25:15.180 --> 00:25:16.980 of July, and he's 00:25:16.980 --> 00:25:17.559 looking for what 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.059 he'll do after 00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:19.379 that. 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:20.819 And so, while 00:25:20.819 --> 00:25:22.139 rightly we'll be 00:25:22.139 --> 00:25:23.259 sad to say 00:25:23.259 --> 00:25:23.920 goodbye to him, 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:25.100 and Cheyenne 00:25:25.100 --> 00:25:25.400 and to their 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:26.440 children, we 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:26.840 don't have to be 00:25:26.840 --> 00:25:27.680 sad all at once. 00:25:28.060 --> 00:25:28.940 So, this is not 00:25:28.940 --> 00:25:30.519 your last day to 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.100 see the brunettes. 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:33.720 We can say 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:34.800 goodbye over a 00:25:34.800 --> 00:25:35.519 bit of time, and 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:36.039 we'll be sure to 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.820 do so well before 00:25:37.820 --> 00:25:38.680 they part from 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:38.940 us. 00:25:40.180 --> 00:25:41.880 So, see in this 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:43.380 example how 00:25:43.380 --> 00:25:44.240 theological 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.360 triage serves 00:25:46.360 --> 00:25:46.900 us, right? 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:48.580 Ty is not 00:25:48.580 --> 00:25:49.460 apostate, right? 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:50.300 Ty is not a 00:25:50.300 --> 00:25:50.779 Christian just 00:25:50.779 --> 00:25:51.060 because he 00:25:51.060 --> 00:25:51.500 doesn't agree 00:25:51.500 --> 00:25:52.360 with us on 00:25:52.360 --> 00:25:53.380 baptism. 00:25:53.380 --> 00:25:54.140 He's a 00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:55.560 Christian brother, 00:25:55.560 --> 00:25:56.060 and we need 00:25:56.060 --> 00:25:56.500 to have no 00:25:56.500 --> 00:25:57.360 doubt of 00:25:57.360 --> 00:25:58.060 this. 00:25:59.100 --> 00:25:59.960 Ty does, though, 00:26:00.060 --> 00:26:00.580 find himself 00:26:00.580 --> 00:26:01.540 disagreeing in a 00:26:01.540 --> 00:26:02.040 matter that 00:26:02.040 --> 00:26:02.860 causes him and 00:26:02.860 --> 00:26:03.640 his family to 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:04.300 need to seek 00:26:04.300 --> 00:26:05.520 fellowship elsewhere 00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:06.640 where their 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:07.540 conscience can be 00:26:07.540 --> 00:26:08.500 clear, where they 00:26:08.500 --> 00:26:09.360 can practice the 00:26:09.360 --> 00:26:10.380 way they believe 00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:11.360 God would have 00:26:11.360 --> 00:26:12.840 them practice, 00:26:13.080 --> 00:26:13.260 right? 00:26:13.360 --> 00:26:14.280 We may think it 00:26:14.280 --> 00:26:15.680 irregular for them 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:16.380 to do that, but 00:26:16.380 --> 00:26:17.220 they don't, and 00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:18.880 so that's okay that 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:19.320 they would find 00:26:19.320 --> 00:26:21.100 themselves in a 00:26:21.099 --> 00:26:21.779 Presbyterian 00:26:21.779 --> 00:26:22.819 context. 00:26:23.539 --> 00:26:25.119 It is okay for 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:25.859 us not to see 00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:26.759 eye to eye on 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:27.699 this matter and 00:26:27.699 --> 00:26:29.259 therefore to 00:26:29.259 --> 00:26:30.599 maintain unity. 00:26:31.059 --> 00:26:31.500 So, thinking 00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:32.639 about this, right, 00:26:32.719 --> 00:26:33.119 where do we 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:33.959 place this? 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:35.019 And here we 00:26:35.019 --> 00:26:35.959 find it's 00:26:35.959 --> 00:26:36.419 actionable. 00:26:37.219 --> 00:26:37.839 Most of our 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:38.480 disagreements 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:39.799 within a church 00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:40.419 are in that 00:26:40.419 --> 00:26:41.459 tertiary category 00:26:41.459 --> 00:26:42.579 and require no 00:26:42.579 --> 00:26:44.480 action at all. 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:45.740 Certainly, if we 00:26:45.740 --> 00:26:46.439 have primary 00:26:46.439 --> 00:26:47.219 disagreements, 00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:48.559 then we're 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:48.940 going to go to 00:26:48.940 --> 00:26:49.759 the mattresses 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:50.339 over that, 00:26:50.900 --> 00:26:51.220 right? 00:26:52.220 --> 00:26:52.940 So, let me 00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:53.680 conclude with 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:55.339 some encouragements 00:26:55.339 --> 00:26:56.420 for you. 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:57.700 I just want to 00:26:57.700 --> 00:26:58.279 encourage you, 00:26:58.980 --> 00:26:59.839 love on Ty and 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:00.980 Cheyenne to the 00:27:00.980 --> 00:27:02.380 max over these 00:27:02.380 --> 00:27:03.079 next three months. 00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:04.579 It's really 00:27:04.579 --> 00:27:05.559 tempting, I find 00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:06.259 this in myself, 00:27:06.380 --> 00:27:07.180 to withdraw from 00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:07.860 people we will 00:27:07.860 --> 00:27:09.680 say farewell to. 00:27:10.360 --> 00:27:11.339 I love their 00:27:11.339 --> 00:27:12.140 children and it's 00:27:12.140 --> 00:27:13.019 tempting to not 00:27:13.019 --> 00:27:13.720 love their kids so 00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:14.360 much, right? 00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:15.460 To not get all 00:27:15.460 --> 00:27:16.039 the hugs that I 00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:17.019 possibly can from 00:27:17.019 --> 00:27:17.319 them. 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:19.819 But let's not do 00:27:19.819 --> 00:27:20.539 this, right? 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:21.559 Let's push back 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:22.039 against that 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:23.319 temptation for 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:24.759 their good and 00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:25.519 for ours, right? 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:26.500 Let's wring every 00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:28.299 bit of wonderful 00:27:28.299 --> 00:27:30.159 we can out of it 00:27:30.159 --> 00:27:30.740 over the next 00:27:30.740 --> 00:27:31.740 three months. 00:27:32.940 --> 00:27:34.379 Additionally, let's 00:27:34.379 --> 00:27:35.220 join in praying for 00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:36.019 wisdom for the 00:27:36.019 --> 00:27:36.659 brunettes as they 00:27:36.659 --> 00:27:37.619 discern their next 00:27:37.619 --> 00:27:38.059 steps. 00:27:38.159 --> 00:27:38.700 There's not a 00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:39.599 clear and obvious 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.079 place at this 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:41.899 moment for them 00:27:41.899 --> 00:27:42.659 and so they need 00:27:42.659 --> 00:27:43.720 to be careful. 00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:44.940 We want to help 00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:45.519 them in that 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:46.599 process to send 00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:48.039 them well to 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:48.879 wherever it is the 00:27:48.879 --> 00:27:49.940 Lord may be 00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:50.779 calling them to 00:27:50.779 --> 00:27:51.019 go. 00:27:51.500 --> 00:27:51.859 So that's the 00:27:51.859 --> 00:27:52.500 first encouragement 00:27:52.500 --> 00:27:53.259 to you. 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.420 Secondly, wrestle 00:27:56.420 --> 00:27:58.000 with varied views 00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:59.359 on baptism. 00:28:00.099 --> 00:28:00.839 I want you to 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:01.240 hear me say that. 00:28:01.299 --> 00:28:02.000 I'm a committed 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.119 credo-baptist, 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:03.480 right? 00:28:03.619 --> 00:28:04.339 We're not 00:28:04.339 --> 00:28:05.160 Baptists because 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:06.779 of denominational 00:28:06.779 --> 00:28:07.879 affiliation because 00:28:07.879 --> 00:28:08.400 it's the kind of 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:09.139 church I grew up 00:28:09.139 --> 00:28:09.379 in. 00:28:09.940 --> 00:28:10.759 I'm Baptist by 00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:11.460 conviction. 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:12.519 As a church, 00:28:12.700 --> 00:28:13.139 it's my 00:28:13.139 --> 00:28:13.819 understanding that 00:28:13.819 --> 00:28:14.500 we're Baptist by 00:28:14.500 --> 00:28:15.779 conviction, but I 00:28:15.779 --> 00:28:16.299 want to encourage 00:28:16.299 --> 00:28:17.619 you to wrestle 00:28:17.619 --> 00:28:18.079 with it. 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:19.460 You need to 00:28:19.460 --> 00:28:20.339 know what you 00:28:20.339 --> 00:28:21.720 believe on the 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:22.000 matter. 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:23.279 Just don't go 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:23.799 along to get 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:24.480 along, but 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:25.539 understand the 00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:25.960 doctrines. 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.039 It's important to 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.039 think about these 00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:28.559 things. 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:30.140 Now to help you 00:28:30.140 --> 00:28:30.720 with this, I'm 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:31.099 going to hold a 00:28:31.099 --> 00:28:31.839 class that each 00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:32.680 you see them, how 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:33.539 they're arrived at 00:28:33.539 --> 00:28:35.720 from the scripture. 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:37.039 So we would have 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:37.619 done it sooner than 00:28:37.619 --> 00:28:38.420 that, but I didn't 00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:38.940 want to do it on 00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:40.000 Mother's Day and I 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:40.940 wasn't ready to do it 00:28:40.940 --> 00:28:41.360 today. 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:41.920 So it's going to 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.400 be on May 19th. 00:28:44.580 --> 00:28:45.779 So join me if you 00:28:45.779 --> 00:28:46.000 will. 00:28:46.100 --> 00:28:47.000 I really encourage 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:47.279 that. 00:28:47.360 --> 00:28:47.900 At least somebody 00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:48.640 from your family 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:49.759 with your Bible 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:50.740 open and we'll 00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:51.720 consider it together. 00:28:52.340 --> 00:28:54.000 I've got all kinds 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:54.620 of plans for a 00:28:54.620 --> 00:28:55.019 whiteboard. 00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:56.400 Just be ready for 00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:56.580 it. 00:28:57.940 --> 00:28:58.740 I also want to 00:28:58.740 --> 00:28:59.380 encourage you not 00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:00.840 to bombard Ty. 00:29:01.660 --> 00:29:02.600 I know that he is 00:29:02.600 --> 00:29:03.460 willing to explain 00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:05.360 his position, but 00:29:05.360 --> 00:29:05.960 consider that this 00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:07.000 may not be the best 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:07.759 way for him to 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:08.700 spend his last three 00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:09.400 months with us, 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:10.300 taking meeting 00:29:10.300 --> 00:29:10.780 after meeting 00:29:10.780 --> 00:29:11.500 after meeting to 00:29:11.500 --> 00:29:12.060 sit down and 00:29:12.060 --> 00:29:13.180 explain paedo 00:29:13.180 --> 00:29:14.220 baptism to you. 00:29:14.780 --> 00:29:15.680 Maybe hang on. 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:16.620 We'll have a class 00:29:16.620 --> 00:29:17.200 and if you have 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:17.960 follow-up questions, 00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:18.720 you're welcome to 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:20.120 probably ask him, 00:29:20.280 --> 00:29:20.480 not me. 00:29:20.560 --> 00:29:21.100 I'm going to give 00:29:21.100 --> 00:29:21.519 you all the 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:22.240 information I know 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:23.660 about it at that 00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:24.019 class. 00:29:24.780 --> 00:29:25.240 But yeah, maybe 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:25.920 just don't bombard 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:27.560 him with questions. 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:28.540 Just love on him a 00:29:28.540 --> 00:29:29.460 bunch and Cheyenne 00:29:29.460 --> 00:29:30.060 as well. 00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:32.320 Third encouragement, 00:29:33.060 --> 00:29:34.360 think long and 00:29:34.360 --> 00:29:35.400 deep about Christian 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:36.360 unity. 00:29:37.220 --> 00:29:38.180 Seeing this as an 00:29:38.180 --> 00:29:39.380 example for us to 00:29:39.380 --> 00:29:40.460 grow as individuals 00:29:40.460 --> 00:29:41.620 and to grow as a 00:29:41.620 --> 00:29:42.120 church. 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:44.920 How can you be 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:46.280 agreeable while 00:29:46.280 --> 00:29:46.900 disagreeing? 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:48.020 How can we 00:29:48.020 --> 00:29:49.080 collectively be 00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:50.540 agreeable while 00:29:50.540 --> 00:29:52.080 disagreeing? 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:53.980 Make theological 00:29:53.980 --> 00:29:55.380 triage a part of 00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:56.180 your regular 00:29:56.180 --> 00:29:57.580 thinking process. 00:29:57.700 --> 00:29:58.920 Whether you ever 00:29:58.920 --> 00:29:59.660 call it theological 00:29:59.660 --> 00:30:00.460 triage or not, 00:30:00.520 --> 00:30:01.220 I don't care. 00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:02.080 But that you're 00:30:02.080 --> 00:30:02.660 thinking in your 00:30:02.660 --> 00:30:04.060 mind, how important 00:30:04.060 --> 00:30:06.080 is this particular 00:30:06.080 --> 00:30:07.380 doctrine? 00:30:07.380 --> 00:30:07.440 doctrine? 00:30:08.180 --> 00:30:09.260 What doctrines are 00:30:09.260 --> 00:30:11.560 of highest order? 00:30:12.040 --> 00:30:13.180 What truths would 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:14.040 you be willing to 00:30:14.040 --> 00:30:14.600 die for? 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:15.280 And are they in 00:30:15.280 --> 00:30:16.800 fact worth dying 00:30:16.800 --> 00:30:17.120 for? 00:30:17.280 --> 00:30:17.960 And do you spend 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:18.780 the majority of 00:30:18.780 --> 00:30:20.220 your time thinking 00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:21.300 about trying to 00:30:21.300 --> 00:30:22.140 sort out all the 00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:22.960 little minutiae 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.300 particulars, right? 00:30:24.620 --> 00:30:26.040 Bouncing around on 00:30:26.040 --> 00:30:27.500 YouTube to see what 00:30:27.500 --> 00:30:28.540 so-and-so says about 00:30:28.540 --> 00:30:30.280 such and such a thing. 00:30:31.020 --> 00:30:32.000 Be sure that you're 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:33.059 standing on the 00:30:33.059 --> 00:30:35.200 right hill at the 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:35.500 end. 00:30:37.500 --> 00:30:38.140 Let me ask, have 00:30:38.140 --> 00:30:39.480 you caused disunity 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.599 over beliefs that 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:42.359 should not have 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:43.940 caused disunity? 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.539 Whether in this 00:30:45.539 --> 00:30:46.539 church or perhaps 00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:47.640 another, perhaps one 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:48.859 that you have left 00:30:48.859 --> 00:30:50.140 behind and maybe 00:30:50.140 --> 00:30:51.140 you need to call 00:30:51.140 --> 00:30:52.160 somebody up and 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:53.299 issue an apology 00:30:53.299 --> 00:30:54.579 and look for 00:30:54.579 --> 00:30:56.000 reconciliation because 00:30:56.539 --> 00:30:57.940 you were ugly about 00:30:57.940 --> 00:30:58.960 a thing that did not 00:30:58.960 --> 00:30:59.799 require it. 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.180 So those are some 00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:02.940 encouragements to 00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:03.220 you. 00:31:03.419 --> 00:31:04.319 I pray that our 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:05.279 church will walk 00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:06.680 this out well 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.059 because it matters. 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:09.680 The fact that we 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:10.819 are in harmony with 00:31:10.819 --> 00:31:11.779 one another, even 00:31:11.779 --> 00:31:12.759 as we disagree, 00:31:13.639 --> 00:31:15.559 exalts the Lord 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:16.899 Jesus Christ. 00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:18.099 Let's pray.