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 All right, so we're on the last outline here, the one called Proclaiming the Gospel.

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 Do you guys have this? Oh, you're passing out. Thank you so much.

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 You guys are doing a great job.

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 Let me share a couple stories just to help you understand why this is so important.

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 These are actual people that have come through our bridge course and have given their lives to the Lord.

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 But I want you just to hear, I'm just going to share just the beginnings of their stories.

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 So just listen to a couple of these.

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 My name is Adam.

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 During my teenage and college years, I began to think about God in a more negative light.

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 My sister had lost her leg in an accident.

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 One friend of mine was raped.

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 Another friend lost a child.

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 One friend watched his girlfriend die in a car accident.

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 Another spiraled down a different devastating path.

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 I couldn't understand why an all-loving God would do such awful things to good people.

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 Would we just play things to him?

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 Were we here for his amusement?

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 I wasn't sure I believed in God at this point.

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 I was selfish, egotistical, sometimes maniacal, angry at myself for my failings.

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 I treated others poorly and took advantage of people that weren't my close friends.

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 Little by little, I chose to destroy my body and chose to lie about it to the people who loved me the most.

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 My name is Brian.

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 I started by going back to the church I used to attend as a young boy.

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 It was a grand church with fancy paintings, tall statues, big columns, and stainless glass windows.

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 It felt good to be back in church, but something was still not right.

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 You see, I sat in a pew that was blocked at one end by a huge column.

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 I sat there because when it was time to receive the sacraments, I would not have to stand aside or move out of the way to let others pass.

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 I was not allowed to receive communion because I was divorced and I hadn't confessed my sins to a priest in many years.

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 I would sit there in the pew and imagine Christ was looking down at me from the cross, shaking his head in disgust, and I couldn't blame him.

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 I was full of sin and I was ashamed of myself too.

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 My name is Christy.

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 When I was a teenager, I started a party and began to hang out with the wrong crowd.

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 I got into a relationship when I was 18 that started to go bad.

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 We had a child together and when the baby was four months old, my boyfriend ended up murdering our child.

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 I was devastated and lost all faith in God.

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 I rebelled against anything and everyone through medication, drugs, and alcohol and ended up having another child out of wedlock to a drug dealer.

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 But none of it would cover the pain and anger I had inside.

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 I lived a life of hate, envy, and resentment.

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 I was in a very bad place and at one point I was even shot.

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 I'm embarrassed to tell you all that I've been through.

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 My life was incredibly toxic and it was all brought on by myself.

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 My name is Carmen.

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 I was born and raised in the country of Egypt.

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 I grew up going to a Coptic Orthodox church, but after I got married and had two children,

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 there was no room in my life or my husband's life for God.

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 Our only concern was improving our own lives.

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 We decided to move to the United States, but after the move, things got worse.

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 After 19 years, my marriage fell apart and my husband and I got a divorce.

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 I was ashamed and felt that I was unworthy in the eyes of God, that he would never accept me.

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 I got remarried, but my life continued to go downhill.

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 My husband was an alcoholic and all of our difficulties left me lonely, penniless, and an emotional wreck.

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 Despair and pain took hold of me.

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 I looked to therapy, took medications, and even tried fortune tellers to help me cope with my marriage.

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 I was often sleepless and would cry continuously.

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 Last one.

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 My name is Pam.

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 I grew up in the city of Philadelphia with my mom, my sister, and three brothers.

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 My dad left when I was four and my mom had to work two or three jobs just to keep things afloat.

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 As a child, this made me angry, but my mom wasn't angry.

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 She trusted God.

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 She was religious and always presented Christ as the answer to everything.

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 She would come home every day to a house full of kids.

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 She had to endure many day-to-day struggles as well as family members who were addicted to drugs.

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 This resulted in my mother permanently taking in nine extra mouths to feed on top of me and my siblings

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 and not including the other ones that she took in from the streets.

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 My anger was fueled by other circumstances as well.

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 Early on, I suffered years of sexual abuse that occurred often, was done in secret, and started as early as the age of two.

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 As a child, I didn't know what to say or how to process being a victim to these horrific acts.

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 I was tormented by nightmares and flashbacks of being attacked by one of my relatives and sometimes his friends

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 being gagged, locked in closets, bathrooms, and dark basements.

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 I would hear my muffled cries of fear and helplessness.

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 Many nights, I cried in anguish,

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 God, if you're so good, why do these awful things happen, especially to a child?

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 I lived with this horrible thing bottled up inside for many, many years.

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 I learned not to trust people, not to trust God.

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 I could only rely on myself.

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 I rejected the lifestyle my mom represented and the God she served.

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 I was angry, bitter, hostile, and hated the world.

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 At the same time, I was perpetually sick and was even eventually diagnosed with Crohn's,

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 which weakened my immune system and made me very ill.

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 I resigned myself to a life filled with despair, hopelessness, and pain.

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 I found myself in destructive relationships with others.

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 I was very unhappy and could not communicate with others without blaming or inflicting some sort of verbal pain.

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 I was ruthlessly inconsiderate of other people's needs and feelings.

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 I felt like I had to get out.

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 The day after my 18th birthday, I left home.

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 I just want to read those stories.

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 There's others here, but this is what we're dealing with.

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 This is what people all around you are facing, this kind of hopelessness, this kind of loneliness,

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 this kind of confusion, the pain, the suffering.

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 These are the people around us.

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 They might look good on the outside, but inside life is destroying them,

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 and the enemy is having his way, and that's why we're here.

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 That's what we're trying to do.

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 You'll see that quote at the top there by Jerem Barge where he says,

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 Instead of retreating, isolating ourselves, and condemning unbelievers in our culture,

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 Jesus calls us to something very different.

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 He desires that we give ourselves to the understanding of the culture around us.

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 He urges us to stop condemning the world and unbelievers.

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 His passion is for us to listen to his prayer for us that we might be in the world as he was in the world.

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 He's eager for us to imitate him and to give our lives gladly to love and to serve non-Christians.

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 His desire is that we be like him and that we commit ourselves to developing intimate relationships with non-Christians.

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 He wants us to teach our church members and our children to do the same,

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 no matter what the belief system and the lifestyle of the people around us.

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 All right, so let's get really practical here.

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 So we've talked a lot about that, building friendships and how important that is.

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 Now I want to talk, though, how do we share the gospel?

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 Let's say you're building these friendships, you're developing these relationships,

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 and now you're like, what do I say?

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 How do I get into the gospel?

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 That's what we want to talk about here.

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 And again, this is where I think Christians have the most difficulty,

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 and it's where that pain line can feel like a solid brick wall.

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 I have an illustration that I think will help, and I think this hits your generation.

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 How many people have here seen the movie Finding Nemo?

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 How many are Nemo fans?

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 Okay, good.

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 This is great.

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 Okay, so you know in Finding Nemo, when he is captured, he's put in that tank,

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 and then when he's woken up in the middle of the night for that initiation ceremony,

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 do you remember this?

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 He's brought to the summit of a volcano that emits bubbles, right?

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 Not if you're, it's okay, good.

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 And this is what the puffer fish says.

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 He says, Nemo, newcomer of orange and white,

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 you have been called forth to the summit of Mount Wanahakalugi

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 to join with us in the fraternal bonds of tankhood

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 if you are able to swim through the ring of fire.

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 And do you remember this?

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 They all start to chant, Wahoo Wahee, Wahoo Wahee, Wahoo.

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 And they're chanting this, and then they turn up the bubbles full force on the volcano.

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 And the female starfish, remember, she kind of peels herself back and says,

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 Isn't there any other way?

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 He's only a kid.

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 And it's real tense, and the Wahoo Wahee, Wahoo Wahee, Wahoo,

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 it gets louder and louder and more and more tense.

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 And then it crescendos, and then Nemo very nonchalantly just swims through.

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 Right? Do you remember this?

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 He just kind of like, all right, and he goes through.

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 That reminds me, I think that is a great illustration for evangelism.

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 Like, it can appear like this incredibly scary,

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 there's no way you're going to make it through, this is scary,

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 they're chanting Wahoo Wahee, it's scary.

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 And it's like, you do it.

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 And it's like, oh, that wasn't as bad as I thought it was,

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 or that wasn't as hard as I thought.

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 But it can feel like this death-defying thing that we're not going to be able to do.

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 And it can feel just those fears, the scariness of it.

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 And I feel that.

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 I'm scared.

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 But like Nemo, it's really not as bad as we think.

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 You may have heard this quote, a guy named Penn Jillette.

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 He is a very famous comic illusionist.

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 They have a show on TV.

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 I don't know if you've seen this.

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 It's like a magic kind of show.

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 But this guy, Penn Jillette, is a very vocal atheist.

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 So he's clearly, he does not believe in God at all.

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 And he had this conversation once where a guy had reached out and shared with him.

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 Have you heard this quote?

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 It's a great quote.

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 The guy who shared with him did a really good job.

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 He's a very compelling man.

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 And this is what Penn Jillette said.

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 He goes, I've always said, you know, and remember, he's an atheist,

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 that I don't respect people who don't proselytize.

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 Proselytize is just to share the gospel.

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 I don't respect that at all.

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 If you believe that there's a heaven and a hell,

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 and people could be going to hell or not getting eternal life or whatever,

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 and you think that, well, it's not really worth telling them this

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 because it would make society awkward,

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 how much do you have to hate somebody to not proselytize?

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 How much do you have to hate somebody to believe that everlasting life is possible

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 and not tell them that?

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 I mean, if I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that a truck was coming at you

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 and you didn't believe it and that truck was bearing down on you,

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 there's a certain point where I tackle you.

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 And this is more important than that.

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 That's one of my favorite questions.

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 I mean, this atheist is rebuking all of us

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 and motivating us to show, which I do think is great.

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 Like, this guy doesn't even believe,

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 and yet his logic is leading him to say,

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 you guys need to be doing this.

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 And to respect somebody that does it instead of disrespecting him,

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 which is kind of amazing.

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 So how do we do this?

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 Well, there are some bad ways to do this,

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 like with Johnny and Chanchi.

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 And one of the worst ways I've ever encountered,

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 was more serious than what Johnny and Chanchi were doing,

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 is a thing called the controlled conversation technique.

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 Have you guys ever heard this?

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 There's a guy named C.S. Lovett

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 who wrote a book called Soul Winning Made Easy back in 1959.

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 So this is, he was a salesman.

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 So he used all of his sales techniques to write a book

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 about how you can kind of like use your sales techniques

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 to reach people for Jesus.

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 And this is literally a quote from his book.

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 This is what he says.

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 Is that in your outline?

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 Is it there?

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 He says,

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 You are in command.

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 In much the same way the trained soul winner

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 can bring his prospect to a decision for Christ.

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 There is no middle ground as he moves with surety and deafness

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 right up to the point of salvation.

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 It is his conversation control that makes this possible.

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 He knows exactly what he's going to say each step of the way.

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 And he can even anticipate his prospect's responses.

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 He's able to keep the conversation focused on the main issue

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 and prevent unrelated materials from being introduced.

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 The controlled conversation technique is something new in evangelism

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 and represents a real breakthrough in soul winning.

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 And this is what he says.

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 So then later on, this is what he says to do.

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 Get your prospect alone.

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 Just so you know the prospect is the non-Christian, right?

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 So you got that.

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 Get your prospect alone.

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 I love this.

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 Lay your hand firmly on the subject's shoulder or arm

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 and say with a semi-commanding tone of voice,

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 bow your head with me.

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 I love that.

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 Semi-commanding.

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 Don't be fully commanding.

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 Just so.

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 Bow your head with me.

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 Note.

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 Do not look at him when you say this, but bow your head first.

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 Out of the corner of your eye, you will see him hesitate at first.

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 Then as his resistance crumbles, his head will come down.

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 Your hand on his shoulder will feel the relaxation

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 and you will know when his heart yields.

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 Bowing your head first causes terrific psychological pressure.

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 That's horrible.

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 Okay.

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 This is not something we want to do.

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 Bow your head.

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 However, one of the things I will say is that I really appreciate about this book

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 is that he actually took the time to try to equip and train people on a way to share the gospel.

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 I do not think this is a good way at all.

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 I think it's manipulative and unhelpful.

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 But you know what I appreciate?

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 This guy wrote an entire book on it.

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 So how can I help others to do that?

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 That's a lot more than anything that we've done, right?

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 To help people share the gospel.

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 So even though this guy deserves to be mocked mercilessly for what he's done

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 and we should laugh at him,

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 we also in a sense should say he's taking great pains to try to figure out how to do that.

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 And for that, he deserves our respect.

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 But he does not deserve us to imitate him, which we will not do.

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 So there are a lot of good booklets and tools and methods that can help us.

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 And one of the things that we've found that's been helpful is this little booklet called How Good Are You?

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 Have you guys seen this before?

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 Those are the ones there.

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 Have you guys ever seen these before, some of you?

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 Buckley's have.

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 Hawkins have, I'm sure.

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 This is, you might say, okay, wait a second.

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 You're giving me a track.

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 Is this like the controlled conversation technique?

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 What is happening here?

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 You just said we didn't like this.

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 Are we going to turn into these obnoxious door-to-door salespeople that have to?

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 No.

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 Before you blow an artery, let me be clear.

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 This is not what we're doing.

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 We've already taught that evangelism is for everyone

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 and that God wants to use you with your strengths and weaknesses

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 to reach out in ways that fit your personality.

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 But if we're going to be faithful to share the gospel,

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 we have to know how to share the gospel.

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 Like if you're going to share the gospel, what are you going to say first?

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 What are you going to say second?

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 What are you going to say third?

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 Like we need to have a method, a way of sharing it.

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 And I'll say this many times.

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 The How Go to You booklet is one way to do it.

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 It's not the only way.

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 It's not the best way.

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 It's just a way to get us started.

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 And you may have a way that you'd prefer using,

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 like Two Ways to Live, The Romans Road, Four Spiritual Laws,

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 or maybe you've developed something else.

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 That's great.

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 And I want to encourage you to do that.

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 But we have often found that Christians don't have a way of sharing the gospel.

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 They can figure out how to build relationships, how to relate to non-Christians.

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 But when they have to explain the message of the Bible, that's harder.

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 Think of this like training wheels, okay?

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 So when you're first learning to ride a bike, right, you put the training wheels on.

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 It helps you to ride the bike.

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 But then eventually you can take it off.

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 So you don't need to always use this, but this is a way to kind of get you started

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 and to share the gospel.

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 Then you can kind of take the wheels off and do whatever you want, whatever works best for you.

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 I have found in training people for evangelism over the last 20 years something very interesting.

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 Whenever you introduce a certain methodology, a certain method, people react.

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 They begin to just attack that and respond negatively.

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 I'll give you an example.

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 Has anybody here heard of FPU, Financial Peace University?

00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:38.419
 Okay, so this is, okay, Hawkins, right.

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 Buckley's right.

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 So FPU is this course.

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 It's a financial course.

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 It's got Dave Ramsey.

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 It's a very effective course.

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 It's a Christian course about how to budget, get out of debt, and it's really good finances.

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 When that was first, our church started to do this.

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 My wife had talked to me about doing this course.

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 I was like, no, we don't need that.

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 I do pretty well with finance.

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 I know what I'm doing.

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 We kind of have things under control.

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 I was immediately like he used this envelope.

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 I don't know.

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 I just heard some things about it.

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 We don't need that.

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 That's not necessary.

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 I know what I have it all under control.

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 And so it took her, you know, about, I don't know, maybe a year and a half or so of wearing

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 me down until I'm like, okay, fine.

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 We'll take the course.

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 And so we took the course, and it was actually extremely helpful to me.

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 And I learned things there that have really helped me financially to be a better steward

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 with my money, saving those sort of things, like really helpful.

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 I didn't do everything that he suggested.

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 Now, I started out trying what he suggested.

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 And then as I began to do that, I began to just make modifications of what I could do

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 and did that.

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 That was a much better approach.

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 Unfortunately, it took me a year and a half to get to that point of humility to say, well,

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 let me see what he's doing.

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 Let me try to learn from him.

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 This guy seems to be, you know, let me try it his way before I say what I'm going to do

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 and how I'm going to change it.

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 And that's a good idea in evangelism as well.

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 I have seen there can just be like a knee-jerk reaction, like, wait, this little book, that's

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 a track, ah!

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 I don't use tracks, ah!

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 And just this horrible, like, reaction against it.

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 What I would suggest is more of a humble approach to say, hey, let me try this first.

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 Let me see how this works.

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 And then as I want to, I can make adjustments and change it.

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 So that's kind of how I would encourage you to approach it.

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 Let me give you a little bit of philosophy behind this for a second.

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 My primary calling as an evangelist is to equip people to share the gospel.

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 So my job is kind of to train, and your job is to kind of share.

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 And sharing the gospel is just part of what it means to be a Christian.

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 Again, we do not think evangelism is just reserved for those who are bold.

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 We think it's for everyone.

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 That means it's something we all have to work on.

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 But there are different modes of evangelism, and they work together wonderfully.

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 So I just want to hit this real quick.

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 You'll see this in your outline.

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 The first is initiative evangelism.

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 This is where non-Christians are exposed to the gospel, normally outside of their natural

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 relationships, through the initiative of Christians.

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 So that's like going out and sharing the gospel, or sharing the gospel with somebody you don't

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 know.

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 Jesus' teaching ministry primarily centered around initiative evangelism.

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 Okay?

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 This is the main mode that he did.

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 So he trained and deployed the 12 disciples, then the 72, all through initiative evangelism.

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 They went two by two, go.

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 They went to people they didn't know, and they were sharing the gospel.

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 And we do this in our church on our second Sundays.

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 We have an outreach called Second Sunday.

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 Every second Sunday, we gather together people who help us with outreaches, and we do different

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 outreaches.

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 You guys remember that.

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 So one of them is a gospel outreach, where we just train and equip people to go out and share

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 the gospel.

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 And they'll go out to parks, or they'll go to a mall, or go someplace, and they'll use

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 this little survey that we, the spiritual questionnaire we have, and then share the gospel.

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 We equip people to do that.

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 Some people just go and watch and learn how to do that.

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 So that's part of what we do.

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 Now, one of the challenges in this mode is that out of all three modes, this is the most

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 uncomfortable.

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 Okay?

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 But there are very important benefits when it comes to initiative evangelism.

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 All right?

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 The most, well, I can't say the most important one.

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 One of the most important ones is that initiative evangelism is the best way to train people how

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 to share the gospel.

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 So it's very hard to train somebody if you're not sharing the gospel.

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 Like, doing it with your Christian friend next to you, like, hey, let's practice this, and

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 I'm going to share this with you, but you're a Christian just acting like a non-Christian,

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 is not really an effective way to do it as going out and actually sharing the gospel with

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 somebody.

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 So the more that you do this, the more that you reach out and do initiative evangelism,

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 you become more adept.

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 You become more skilled at being able to share and being able to go through and talk to them

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 about the gospel.

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 Okay?

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 So it's a great way to train.

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 In a minute, we're going to talk about friendship evangelism.

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 You don't need training for friendship.

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 So you don't really need to train somebody how to be a friend.

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 What Christians need help with is, okay, I'm a friend.

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 I don't know what to say.

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 What do I say first?

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 And then what do I say second?

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 And what if they ask this question?

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 That's where you need more training, and that's where initiative evangelism is helpful.

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 The other thing that it's super good at is that it's really good at motivating.

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 In evangelism.

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 There's a great quote.

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 I didn't put it in here.

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 I should have.

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 By a guy named McCloskey.

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 He says, if you want to gain a heart for evangelism, if you want to gain a heart for evangelism,

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 then go out and be with the lost and see how lost they are.

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 So what he's saying there is the best way to be motivated in evangelism is to do evangelism,

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 to spend time with lost people.

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 And there's something, and you'll see if you're able to go with us this afternoon,

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 there's something you'll see.

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 When we share the gospel, it does something in our own hearts,

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 just like when that lady shared about how it affected her.

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 Because when you're standing in front of somebody and you realize how lost they are,

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 and they're sharing these answers that are wrong, and they're confused,

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 and they think it's their good works, and you're thinking,

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 God, why would you save me and help me to see, open my eyes to see the light,

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 and that I would come to Christ and you would rescue me,

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 and now I'm standing here in front of this person, they're lost.

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 They don't know you.

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 It breaks your own heart.

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 It does something in our own hearts, and it motivates us.

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 It actually fuels us.

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 And I've seen it actually fuel relational evangelism,

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 where you're out doing a gospel outreach and you're talking to somebody,

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 and then you come back and think, why am I not talking to my neighbors?

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 Or why am I not talking to my family?

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 I've got to talk to my family about this.

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 I'm willing to talk to somebody I don't even know about it.

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 I certainly should talk to people that I do know.

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 So it has that effect of really motivating us in evangelism.

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 The next one is lifestyle evangelism.

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 We've talked a lot about this is the friendship aspect.

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 And we saw this.

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 Jesus befriended and ate with Zacchaeus.

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 Matthew had this Matthew party, we call it,

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 where he had unbelieving friends and Christian friends all together.

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 And we want to encourage this.

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 Now, one of the challenges with lifestyle evangelism or friendship evangelism

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 is that Christians sometimes hesitate to share the gospel with friends

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 because they're afraid it's going to damage the relationship.

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 They're afraid it's going to mess the relationship up.

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 And again, it's very difficult to train people how to share the gospel

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 through friendship evangelism.

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 So you don't have to train people to build a friendship.

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 It's not like, okay, you're here.

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 Welcome to the evangelism class.

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 Okay, you should, okay, first invite somebody over.

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 Then preheat the oven to 350.

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 Then stick casserole on.

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 Then when they come to the door, greet them and make small talk.

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 Take their coats.

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 We don't need to do that, right?

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 There's no training that's needed for that.

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 So that's, again, where this initiative evangelism comes in for those training purposes.

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 But friendship evangelism is really important

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 because Christians are usually less fearful of sharing the gospel with people that they know.

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 It's easier, in a sense, to do that.

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 And historically, the gospel has spread along relational lines.

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 So it might penetrate into a certain group through initiative evangelism.

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 But the gospel primarily will spread along relational lines.

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 So even we talked about millennials, Gen Z, those relationships they have.

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 That's how it's going to go.

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 It's through building those bridges, tearing down those plausibility structures,

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 that people can feel comfortable.

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 The gospel will spread through that.

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 So that's why we place so much emphasis on building those relationships

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 because you earn that trust to be able to bring the weight of the gospel across the bridge.

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 And so that's really important.

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 And then corporate witness, we talked about this.

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 This is how non-Christians are exposed to the gospel

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 and its effects through contact with a corporate body of believers.

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 Jesus said this in John 13,

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 that unbelievers will know we're Christians, we're Christ's disciples,

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 by our love for one another.

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 And this is really important in this day and age that we tap into this.

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 This is why inviting people to church is so important

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 because they get to come and see the effects of the gospel.

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 Not just you.

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 They can write you off as an exception.

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 And they see a whole church of people who've been transformed,

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 who are loving, who care for people, who have kids that actually sometimes obey.

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 And they see that.

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 They see the effects of the gospel in that, which is really important.

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 One of the challenges of a corporate witness is that it can only impact those that are close enough

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 to see and experience it firsthand.

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 And some people just aren't interested in coming to a Christian event.

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 One of the things you can do, inviting somebody to church might be too big of a step,

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 but it might be just inviting them to your house, like with another friend.

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 Or if you're doing something, you're watching a movie, or you're playing, doing a game night,

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 or those sort of things, or your community group is doing something,

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 our bridge course really works well for this.

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 It's inviting people in.

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 They get to see parts of that community.

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 So even just think of small ways that they can be exposed to the community of the church.

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 Now, one of the things that's amazing is evangelism works really well

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 when you have all three of those modes going at once,

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 when you have the initiative, the friendship, and the corporate witness.

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 That's usually when you see stuff happen and people getting saved.

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 And the bridge is a great example of that because we have all three of those.

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 So when I stand up and do the message, I'm sharing the gospel.

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 It's initiative.

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 I don't know these people.

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 I'm just bringing truth, right?

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 And then they have the friendship part.

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 They're eating together.

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 So in bridge, they eat together.

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 There's a meal together.

00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:13.279
 And they get to relate, and they listen to the message together.

00:27:13.379 --> 00:27:16.099
 And there's real friendship that's being formed there.

00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:17.700
 They're talking and asking questions.

00:27:18.220 --> 00:27:19.759
 And that friendship part is important.

00:27:20.099 --> 00:27:21.579
 And then there's also the corporate witness.

00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:23.920
 There's all these people serving them.

00:27:24.420 --> 00:27:27.119
 They see the love that the leaders have for one another.

00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:31.039
 We're hugging one another and friendly, and they can see we have genuine relationships.

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.799
 There's people that are being generous, taking care of their kids.

00:27:34.059 --> 00:27:35.420
 There's people serving them food.

00:27:35.579 --> 00:27:37.879
 And they see the difference in our lives.

00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.619
 They're like, my goodness, why would these people do this?

00:27:40.859 --> 00:27:50.599
 They might not believe what I'm saying in the message at all, but they're like, they can't ignore the fact that God's doing something here.

00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:55.079
 Or they really enjoy the friendships that they're getting to know.

00:27:55.139 --> 00:27:56.240
 They don't have good friendships.

00:27:56.379 --> 00:27:56.740
 They're lonely.

00:27:56.740 --> 00:28:00.940
 And they're developing these friendships, and that keeps them coming back, even though they don't believe what I'm saying.

00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:07.299
 But then all three of these, when all three are working and God's word is going forth, they're building the friendship.

00:28:07.420 --> 00:28:08.440
 They're seeing that corporate witness.

00:28:08.819 --> 00:28:12.240
 Then we see God really using that to save people.

00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:15.079
 All right.

00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:20.980
 So let's take a look at this tract.

00:28:22.539 --> 00:28:30.679
 Let me say before we go over this, this tract is not just designed for strangers, okay?

00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:32.599
 So you don't just have to think.

00:28:32.699 --> 00:28:38.019
 This is not just for, I've used this many times with family members, with friends, with coworkers.

00:28:38.199 --> 00:28:39.759
 It's great to say, hey, I have a little book.

00:28:39.859 --> 00:28:41.659
 Could we go through this together?

00:28:42.099 --> 00:28:43.539
 Somebody that you already know.

00:28:43.539 --> 00:28:46.500
 So it doesn't have to be for strangers.

00:28:46.639 --> 00:28:49.599
 You can use this for friends or family members, coworkers, classmates.

00:28:50.619 --> 00:28:53.859
 And as I mentioned before, it's a great way to share with kids, too.

00:28:53.899 --> 00:28:55.799
 I use this with my kids all the time.

00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:02.819
 It's also, the other thing I like about this is it's a simple outline that can be easily memorized.

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.819
 So it's kind of a way to catechize.

00:29:05.819 --> 00:29:12.439
 So what we do in this is it's very, we use a law gospel approach.

00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:16.659
 So we use the law to help show people their sin and then bring the gospel.

00:29:16.779 --> 00:29:20.319
 This is a very Puritan or Puritanical approach.

00:29:20.379 --> 00:29:26.139
 If you want to sound impressive, you can say, oh, yeah, when I share the gospel, I use more of a Puritanical approach.

00:29:26.140 --> 00:29:28.759
 They loved using this like the law.

00:29:28.860 --> 00:29:32.680
 They bring the law in first, show people their sin, and then bring the gospel.

00:29:32.860 --> 00:29:38.540
 And then it's just very three very simple points, our problem, God's solution, and your response.

00:29:39.080 --> 00:29:46.920
 So that's a good way of even just catechizing, thinking through, like when I share the gospel, I kind of just use that as a little outline.

00:29:47.020 --> 00:29:50.259
 I kind of talk about, okay, your problem and then God's solution and your response.

00:29:50.259 --> 00:29:53.980
 It's just a little kind of simple three-step way of doing that.

00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.720
 You don't need to use the track to do that, but it's a way to do that.

00:29:57.819 --> 00:29:59.319
 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go through this.

00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.579
 I'm going to share some tips that I have found helpful.

00:30:02.819 --> 00:30:03.740
 You don't have to use any of them.

00:30:04.019 --> 00:30:10.099
 When I first used this, when I developed this track, I went to Westchester University Camp, sat down with somebody.

00:30:10.180 --> 00:30:11.039
 I just read through it with them.

00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.180
 I didn't do anything.

00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:13.359
 I just read through it.

00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:13.980
 I was like, oh, that was pretty.

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.119
 I didn't memorize any of it.

00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.079
 I just read through it with them, showed them.

00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:20.240
 We kind of walked through it, and I was like, okay, so that kind of worked.

00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:21.299
 We kind of got through the gospel.

00:30:21.660 --> 00:30:22.920
 You don't have to use these tips.

00:30:23.059 --> 00:30:28.240
 I'm going to share them, but again, I'm just going to share them so that you can use them in the future if you need to.

00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:36.859
 So one of the things that you can do if you're using this with someone you know, you could just ask them to take a look at it.

00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.519
 But if it's with someone you don't know, you could say something like, have you ever seen this booklet?

00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.180
 Or have you ever taken a How Good Are You test?

00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:44.480
 Could be another way to do that.

00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:53.660
 But we also have these spiritual questionnaires, which work great for getting into conversations, and we'll use these this afternoon.

00:30:54.120 --> 00:30:58.019
 It's just great where you can come up to somebody and say, hey, we're just a local church in the area.

00:30:58.120 --> 00:30:59.559
 We have a little spiritual questionnaire.

00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:00.279
 We show it to them.

00:31:00.360 --> 00:31:00.660
 It's short.

00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:01.920
 Like, hey, it's just a couple of questions.

00:31:02.220 --> 00:31:03.839
 Do you mind if I ask you some questions?

00:31:03.900 --> 00:31:06.220
 We're just trying to learn about what people believe in this area.

00:31:06.220 --> 00:31:07.140
 Okay, great.

00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:08.600
 Number one, what's your spiritual background?

00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:16.000
 So this questionnaire is really good, and you'll see this on the video, and it feeds into the track.

00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:22.700
 So at the end, it says the last question, number five, is on a scale of one to ten, how would you rate your goodness?

00:31:23.360 --> 00:31:25.819
 And so they might answer that and say a six or seven.

00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:31.259
 And then I would have the track bring the track out and say, okay, well, we have a little booklet here that talks about that.

00:31:31.259 --> 00:31:34.799
 And I would say, you know, on a scale of one to ten, how would you rate your goodness?

00:31:34.879 --> 00:31:36.379
 You gave yourself a six or seven.

00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:39.480
 And this is usually people give themselves a six or seven.

00:31:39.579 --> 00:31:40.879
 They think I'm not as good as some people.

00:31:41.420 --> 00:31:42.160
 I'm no Mother Teresa.

00:31:42.500 --> 00:31:45.440
 And so you can just go in that, go through that first line.

00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:47.819
 And it's at that point that I say, do you have a second?

00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:49.700
 Would you mind if I went through that?

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:54.180
 I asked permission to go through that booklet and give permission, and then we go through.

00:31:54.460 --> 00:31:56.599
 But it really leads very easy.

00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:58.420
 The spiritual questionnaire is a good way.

00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:00.259
 It starts us off asking questions.

00:32:00.259 --> 00:32:02.379
 We get to learn about their background.

00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:03.279
 What do they believe?

00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:04.680
 We ask follow-up questions.

00:32:04.779 --> 00:32:05.859
 What did you think about that?

00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:15.039
 And it gives us an ability to kind of customize and to know where they're at so that we can then share and go through the gospel with them.

00:32:15.420 --> 00:32:15.539
 Okay?

00:32:15.980 --> 00:32:22.640
 So let me go through this real quickly, and then I want to show you a video where we actually do it on the street.

00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.599
 And you'll see how we do that.

00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.740
 So it's just called How Good Are You?

00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:28.940
 And it says how would you rate your goodness?

00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:29.980
 It's a scale from 1 to 10.

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.380
 Usually people give themselves a 6 or a 7.

00:32:32.460 --> 00:32:33.880
 They think I'm not as good as some people.

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.660
 I'm no Mother Teresa, but at least I've never murdered anyone.

00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:41.380
 God knows I'm a pretty good person, and because of this, he will accept me into heaven.

00:32:41.660 --> 00:32:41.840
 Okay?

00:32:42.380 --> 00:32:44.880
 And it's usually at that point I ask them for permission to share.

00:32:45.320 --> 00:32:51.000
 And then it says on the next page, did you know the Bible teaches that getting to God by being a good person is impossible?

00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.420
 It's like trying to jump from one end of the Grand Canyon to the other.

00:32:53.420 --> 00:32:56.180
 Some of us could jump further than others, but none of us would make it.

00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:57.420
 What's the standard?

00:32:57.500 --> 00:33:01.480
 The reason we think we're good enough to get to God is because we compare ourselves to other people.

00:33:01.940 --> 00:33:05.920
 But when we compare ourselves to God and his standard, the Ten Commandments, we all fall short.

00:33:06.600 --> 00:33:09.080
 Here's a quick test to more accurately rate your goodness.

00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.939
 So then we kind of go through the Ten Commandments.

00:33:12.019 --> 00:33:14.859
 So this is where we're going through the law with people.

00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.359
 And I might say there, like somebody say, oh, you might be familiar with some of the Ten Commandments,

00:33:18.439 --> 00:33:22.899
 or maybe somebody that's Catholic would be familiar with them, and then go through that law.

00:33:22.939 --> 00:33:24.539
 And I'll just ask them the questions.

00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.079
 Now, quick little tip.

00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:33.279
 I usually skip one and two because it's just harder for people to grasp the idea of having no other gods

00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:34.740
 or not making for themselves an idol.

00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.000
 I usually just start with number three.

00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:41.259
 It's just easier, and if I'm in a conversation where somebody seems very interested

00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:44.980
 and they seem like they have time, I'll go back to number one and two and explain,

00:33:45.380 --> 00:33:49.420
 like, is loving God your first priority, or are you devoted to anything more than God?

00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.440
 A lot of people are like, no, no, no, they don't.

00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:58.160
 And it kind of can sometimes get them off on the wrong foot where they think that the answer to the question is no each time.

00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.140
 Like, no, I haven't done that.

00:34:00.299 --> 00:34:02.059
 So helpful to start with number three.

00:34:02.140 --> 00:34:04.619
 So I just started, you shall not take God's name in vain.

00:34:04.619 --> 00:34:07.339
 Have you ever taken God's name in vain and said, like, oh, my God?

00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:09.839
 Yeah, I've done that.

00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:10.400
 And so, okay.

00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:12.579
 And I'll say, so have I.

00:34:12.900 --> 00:34:13.480
 You know, so have I.

00:34:13.539 --> 00:34:18.319
 I think it's important to show humility, but you don't want to show humility on everyone

00:34:18.319 --> 00:34:20.420
 and take the focus off of them onto you.

00:34:20.500 --> 00:34:23.099
 So I'll have certain spots, maybe like twice.

00:34:23.500 --> 00:34:25.019
 I'll say, yeah, I've done that too.

00:34:25.099 --> 00:34:25.699
 I've broken that.

00:34:25.699 --> 00:34:30.579
 Because they will assume you've kept all these and I've broken all those.

00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:33.279
 They'll assume a righteousness that you have that they don't.

00:34:33.879 --> 00:34:37.559
 So, and sometimes I'll add there.

00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:38.939
 You don't have to add that.

00:34:39.019 --> 00:34:42.879
 If they, you know, have taken the Lord's name in vain, sometimes I'll just add there.

00:34:42.980 --> 00:34:45.159
 Yeah, the Bible actually calls that blasphemy.

00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:47.879
 Sometimes I'll say that, but sometimes I don't.

00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.379
 Number four, remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.

00:34:50.380 --> 00:34:55.140
 In other words, have you set aside one day at seven to worship the Lord?

00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:02.500
 And one of the things you'll see sometimes, again, I'm giving you things that you can add.

00:35:02.980 --> 00:35:04.240
 Don't have to add any of them.

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:11.579
 One of the things that people think is that the law is kind of like, okay, have I generally kept them?

00:35:11.700 --> 00:35:13.500
 Do I generally go to church?

00:35:13.660 --> 00:35:15.360
 Do I, have I been to church before?

00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.300
 The law is actually a perfection of state, a standard of perfection.

00:35:19.300 --> 00:35:19.820
 Okay.

00:35:20.380 --> 00:35:23.019
 So here's an easy illustration that can help with that.

00:35:23.200 --> 00:35:26.119
 If you get pulled over for a cop, you were clearly speeding.

00:35:26.680 --> 00:35:27.619
 The cop comes up to your window.

00:35:27.740 --> 00:35:31.420
 You wouldn't say, well, officer, I generally keep the speed limit.

00:35:33.980 --> 00:35:35.860
 I usually keep the speed limit.

00:35:36.700 --> 00:35:38.099
 He doesn't care about that.

00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.660
 He only cares about this moment right now where you have broken the speed limit, right?

00:35:44.180 --> 00:35:45.579
 And it's the same with the law.

00:35:45.579 --> 00:35:49.780
 It's not have I generally, it's have you perfectly kept this?

00:35:49.780 --> 00:35:57.660
 That's kind of a way to help them to see that this is a standard of perfection, not just a general suggestion of what you should do.

00:35:59.820 --> 00:36:02.680
 Number five, honor your father and mother.

00:36:02.780 --> 00:36:06.080
 And I'll just say something like, have you perfectly honored and obeyed your father and mother?

00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:10.219
 And usually that's a good one to kind of take people down.

00:36:10.340 --> 00:36:11.940
 Although I will have some people say, no, I have.

00:36:12.340 --> 00:36:13.779
 And sometimes I'll push them.

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:14.880
 No, I have.

00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:19.179
 I said, have you ever gotten angry at him or you've ever like disobeyed him?

00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.019
 Yeah, okay, well, that would be dishonor.

00:36:22.139 --> 00:36:23.880
 Like sometimes you have to help people with it.

00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.380
 But you can't get into an argument and try to force them.

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:27.860
 Sometimes you just have to be like, okay, you.

00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:28.279
 Liar.

00:36:29.279 --> 00:36:29.639
 Liar.

00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:29.840
 Liar.

00:36:29.940 --> 00:36:30.119
 Right.

00:36:30.179 --> 00:36:30.839
 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:31.819 --> 00:36:33.480
 Can I call your mom right now?

00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:34.299
 Let's talk to her.

00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:38.619
 Number six, you shall not murder.

00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.039
 Now, usually sometimes I'll take a joke.

00:36:40.139 --> 00:36:41.059
 There's people say, oh, my goodness.

00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:42.420
 Thank God I've never murdered anyone.

00:36:42.420 --> 00:36:47.019
 Well, Jesus actually says that anger towards another is murder.

00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:49.980
 That if you've hated somebody, you've murdered them in your heart.

00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:58.159
 And so sometimes it helps to just use that little scripture there to say that God's not just focused on the outward things that we do,

00:36:58.200 --> 00:36:59.639
 but actually what happens inside.

00:36:59.740 --> 00:37:03.980
 That if we've hated somebody, if we're angry with somebody, we're murdering them in our heart.

00:37:03.980 --> 00:37:07.380
 And then the same with you should not commit adultery.

00:37:07.860 --> 00:37:10.980
 That lust is adultery of the heart.

00:37:11.059 --> 00:37:13.360
 That if you've lusted after someone, you've committed adultery.

00:37:14.019 --> 00:37:15.179
 You should not steal.

00:37:15.340 --> 00:37:17.019
 Have you ever taken anything that doesn't belong to you?

00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:21.199
 You should not lie, including answering these questions.

00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:23.840
 And you should not covet.

00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.400
 And sometimes I'll say if you've stolen something, you had to covet it first.

00:37:27.740 --> 00:37:28.920
 Sometimes I explain coveting.

00:37:29.019 --> 00:37:30.000
 They don't know.

00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:31.019
 People don't know what that is.

00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:32.780
 It just means to want something too much.

00:37:32.780 --> 00:37:34.240
 That's usually the definition I use.

00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.519
 So I'll explain that.

00:37:36.640 --> 00:37:39.180
 And then if I have time, if I feel like somebody's really interested,

00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.820
 like you want to gauge how interested, if they seem to be slipping in their attention,

00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:46.160
 you want to move through quicker.

00:37:46.660 --> 00:37:48.300
 You want to just hold them captive there.

00:37:48.740 --> 00:37:53.940
 If somebody's very interested, I might go to the first two and come back to that, okay?

00:37:54.540 --> 00:37:57.760
 And it says if getting to God depends on being good, we've got a serious problem.

00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.300
 We'll take a closer look at our problem and God's solution in the next three points.

00:38:01.300 --> 00:38:02.840
 Okay, there's the law, right?

00:38:03.340 --> 00:38:04.180
 Here comes the gospel.

00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:05.220
 Here's the three points.

00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:06.760
 So top left, it says our problem.

00:38:07.200 --> 00:38:08.640
 We're sinful when we break God's law.

00:38:09.080 --> 00:38:11.260
 Sin separates us from God and brings his judgment.

00:38:11.900 --> 00:38:12.480
 We're sinful.

00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:13.660
 No one is good, not even one.

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.820
 For all have sinned and fall short of God's glorious standard.

00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.660
 God created people to bring him glory and enjoy life and relationship with him.

00:38:21.019 --> 00:38:25.220
 However, each of us has turned against our creator by violating his standard and living our own way, which is sin.

00:38:25.560 --> 00:38:26.300
 God is holy.

00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:29.460
 He's completely good and must respond in fierce opposition to our sin.

00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:39.160
 And then it says because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed.

00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:48.320
 Sometimes, again, if I feel like I have time, I'll underlie the word unrepentant and say, does any, do you know what that, what do you think that means?

00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:49.360
 Is unrepentant.

00:38:49.460 --> 00:38:53.220
 That sometimes might be a hard concept for people to get.

00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:55.220
 Then just go.

00:38:55.340 --> 00:38:55.960
 Turn the page.

00:38:56.340 --> 00:39:02.460
 The final judgment for those who die in their sins is eternal separation from God in hell.

00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.820
 And so this is, you know, where the bad news gets really bad.

00:39:07.820 --> 00:39:11.519
 And we want people to see, you kind of see the little people in there.

00:39:11.620 --> 00:39:12.539
 I don't know if you see those.

00:39:13.660 --> 00:39:15.740
 There's also, and again, because we've used it so much.

00:39:16.100 --> 00:39:22.380
 There's also, if you see the little guy that's looking down to the abyss, he's actually on the head of a goat, if anybody could see it.

00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:23.519
 We call it the death goat.

00:39:23.860 --> 00:39:26.220
 So you kind of see he's near one of the horns.

00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:28.680
 And you could see two, like two little eyes.

00:39:28.780 --> 00:39:30.080
 Do you see, does anybody see that?

00:39:30.220 --> 00:39:30.420
 No.

00:39:30.860 --> 00:39:31.740
 The death goat.

00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:32.860
 Oh, yes.

00:39:33.640 --> 00:39:34.240
 You see him?

00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:34.300
 Yes.

00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:34.860
 Yes.

00:39:34.860 --> 00:39:35.300
 Yes.

00:39:35.300 --> 00:39:35.360
 Yes.

00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:35.800
 Yes.

00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:36.360
 Yes.

00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:36.559
 Yes.

00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:36.800
 Yes.

00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:36.820
 Yes.

00:39:36.820 --> 00:39:37.260
 Yes.

00:39:37.260 --> 00:39:37.300
 Yes.

00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:37.360
 Yes.

00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:37.380
 Yes.

00:39:37.380 --> 00:39:37.800
 Yes.

00:39:37.820 --> 00:39:39.720
 He's kind of on one of the horns.

00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.180
 I thought you meant he was like a small one.

00:39:42.180 --> 00:39:42.500
 No.

00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:44.800
 You can see the right eye of the goat.

00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:45.360
 Yes.

00:39:46.059 --> 00:39:46.500
 Yes.

00:39:46.660 --> 00:39:47.480
 You can see that.

00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:48.780
 And you can see the horns.

00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:50.000
 He's on one of the horns.

00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:53.880
 Is that on purpose?

00:39:54.019 --> 00:39:54.280
 Yeah.

00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:55.680
 Yeah.

00:39:55.980 --> 00:39:56.400
 It was.

00:39:57.160 --> 00:40:02.460
 Well, goat, like, represents the symbol of, like, Satan and demonic and stuff like that.

00:40:02.940 --> 00:40:07.559
 One of the guys in our church that designed this, it was his senior art thesis project.

00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.420
 So, so he, he, he, no, it wasn't Dan Lee.

00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:16.779
 It was, it was, it was, um, uh, Steph, Nate, uh, Bomberger.

00:40:16.900 --> 00:40:19.219
 It was Stefan's brother, um, Matt Bomberger.

00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:20.039
 Yeah.

00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:20.699
 You remember him?

00:40:20.699 --> 00:40:21.880
 I think so.

00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.219
 He was in the Riley band.

00:40:24.219 --> 00:40:25.059
 Remember Riley?

00:40:25.059 --> 00:40:25.360
 Yeah.

00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:25.920
 He's part of that.

00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.960
 So, so there's a death coat for you.

00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.739
 You don't have to show that to them though.

00:40:29.739 --> 00:40:33.480
 But if you're showing kids that can be helpful to find the death coat.

00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:35.599
 Um, so this is really serious though.

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.239
 When you get to this page, I mean, this is, this is the place where people will object.

00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.259
 Like when you get to this hell spread and you talk about how people say, oh, well, you know,

00:40:44.259 --> 00:40:45.139
 I don't really believe in the Bible.

00:40:45.439 --> 00:40:47.239
 And so what do you do if somebody says that?

00:40:47.279 --> 00:40:48.099
 Like, oh, I don't really believe this.

00:40:48.419 --> 00:40:50.359
 You could say just there, like say, you know what?

00:40:50.439 --> 00:40:52.419
 That's, you know, that's a great question.

00:40:52.739 --> 00:40:57.099
 Would you mind just if we finish going through this just so you know what the Bible says?

00:40:57.099 --> 00:40:57.519
 All right.

00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:02.299
 So you can kind of sidestep that a little bit because again, our goal is to get the

00:41:02.299 --> 00:41:03.059
 gospel out there.

00:41:03.139 --> 00:41:04.119
 All they have is the bad news.

00:41:04.179 --> 00:41:05.679
 We don't want to just leave them with the bad news.

00:41:05.799 --> 00:41:07.380
 So here comes the good news.

00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.799
 The next page is God's solution.

00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:11.960
 Jesus lived a sinless life in love.

00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.019
 Jesus died as a substitute for our sins.

00:41:15.179 --> 00:41:16.659
 And there's John 3, 16.

00:41:16.759 --> 00:41:20.559
 Then it says, even though we turn against our creator, he loves us and sent his son,

00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.960
 Jesus to save us from his judgment on the cross.

00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:27.559
 Yes, God, the son endured the holy wrath we deserve so we can be forgiven and accepted

00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:28.360
 by God.

00:41:28.659 --> 00:41:32.220
 And it says, Jesus' death for Christ died for sins once for all the righteous for the

00:41:32.220 --> 00:41:33.539
 unrighteous to bring you to God.

00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.400
 Now, one of the things you can do there is sometimes I'll ask them, who do you think the

00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.440
 righteous is when they read that verse, that first Peter three verse?

00:41:40.900 --> 00:41:42.460
 Who's the righteous here?

00:41:44.099 --> 00:41:47.240
 And a lot of times they'll get that wrong.

00:41:48.980 --> 00:41:51.980
 Christ said once he died for the righteous us, like.

00:41:51.980 --> 00:41:58.820
 The righteous were righteous, which is a liar.

00:41:58.980 --> 00:42:01.440
 No, we're not the righteous.

00:42:01.699 --> 00:42:02.760
 So but that's hard for them.

00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:06.280
 So and so they'll say they'll make it and I'll say, is it us?

00:42:06.380 --> 00:42:07.559
 And I'll say, well, no, look again.

00:42:07.619 --> 00:42:11.559
 And just you're making them kind of look at that verse and help me to see, no, the righteous

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.079
 there is Christ for the unrighteous is us.

00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:14.440
 Right.

00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:18.700
 So helping them see that and even just drawing a little arrow, you can draw an arrow of that

00:42:18.700 --> 00:42:22.340
 guy coming across the cross to get to God.

00:42:22.980 --> 00:42:23.599
 And this is Jesus.

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:24.200
 Next page.

00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:25.079
 Jesus is alive today.

00:42:25.220 --> 00:42:28.280
 After three days in a tomb, he rose from the dead and was seen by hundreds of eyewitnesses.

00:42:28.740 --> 00:42:32.220
 Having conquered sin and death, he returned to heaven and now reigns as ruler over all.

00:42:32.720 --> 00:42:35.700
 However, it's not enough to simply know these truths.

00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:36.780
 Next page.

00:42:36.780 --> 00:42:38.300
 Number three, your response.

00:42:38.820 --> 00:42:42.080
 You must turn from your sins and trust in Jesus alone.

00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.460
 Only then will you be forgiven and accepted by God.

00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.200
 And there's two scriptures there.

00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.800
 Acts three, repent then and turn to God so your sins may be wiped out.

00:42:50.860 --> 00:42:54.320
 And John three, whoever believes in the son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the

00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:56.820
 son will not see life for God's wrath remains on him.

00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:57.700
 Now, this is really cool.

00:42:57.780 --> 00:42:59.840
 This is an important part to get to these cars.

00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:00.940
 It's very helpful for people.

00:43:01.340 --> 00:43:02.880
 So think of it like driving a car.

00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:07.579
 The red car represents a self-directed life where you're in the driver's seat.

00:43:08.220 --> 00:43:12.840
 The white car represents a Christ-directed life where you trust Jesus for forgiveness

00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.160
 and let him decide which way to go.

00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:18.760
 So which car are you in?

00:43:19.140 --> 00:43:26.440
 Now, when you show this to people, they stare at it and they see the little red Mustang and

00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.900
 they think, hmm, that guy's driving a car.

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:34.280
 It looks like he's going off into some flaming abyss.

00:43:34.460 --> 00:43:36.240
 That doesn't look desirable.

00:43:36.820 --> 00:43:39.260
 The guy in the white car looks like he's in a lot better shape.

00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:40.079
 He's smiling.

00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.360
 But I don't know if I could say that Christ is really driving the car.

00:43:44.500 --> 00:43:47.180
 Like, is he really deciding which way I go?

00:43:47.380 --> 00:43:52.380
 And they stare at it for a while because they get caught in between.

00:43:52.380 --> 00:43:58.840
 Sometimes you can give them an out, which I like to do and say, well, maybe you feel like

00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:05.760
 you're in the pink car, which the pink car is you're driving and Jesus is in the passenger

00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:05.980
 seat.

00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:07.340
 They're like, yeah, yes.

00:44:08.420 --> 00:44:09.340
 That's the car I'm in.

00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.619
 The pink car, it's like I'm driving, but I kind of have Jesus next to me.

00:44:13.740 --> 00:44:14.820
 They want that.

00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.420
 A lot of people are desperately looking to get out from between these two choices and get

00:44:19.420 --> 00:44:22.059
 kind of a middle road where I'm basically in control.

00:44:22.200 --> 00:44:23.599
 But I kind of, Jesus is my co-pilot.

00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:24.820
 You know, he's kind of with me.

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.320
 And, you know, if I crash the car, maybe he can miraculously fix it.

00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.380
 If I get lost, maybe he can give me directions.

00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.820
 But generally, that's what they want in the pink car.

00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:42.740
 And then what I'll say to people is actually the Bible, the Bible calls that hypocrisy.

00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:46.280
 Okay, that's the worst word you could ever use for someone.

00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:50.620
 That's actually what the Bible calls hypocrisy because there's no such thing as a pink car.

00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:54.820
 It really is only one or the other, either a red car or a white car.

00:44:55.220 --> 00:44:58.940
 Either you're in control of your life, you do what you want, you call the shots, and then

00:44:58.940 --> 00:44:59.560
 you're in the red car.

00:44:59.560 --> 00:45:04.900
 Or you've surrendered your life to Jesus and you belong to him and he's leading and you're

00:45:04.900 --> 00:45:05.380
 following.

00:45:06.900 --> 00:45:09.680
 Jesus isn't interested in being the co-pilot.

00:45:10.720 --> 00:45:14.600
 He's interested in being Lord and being king or not at all.

00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:21.299
 So that's often where that's a helpful point to kind of interact on that.

00:45:22.339 --> 00:45:24.380
 And then it says, which car would you like to be in?

00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.739
 And then the next page says, Jesus calling you to trust him.

00:45:28.759 --> 00:45:31.079
 And it has a prayer that people pray.

00:45:31.179 --> 00:45:36.099
 I never really get to that unless it will be hard for me to pray for somebody that I've

00:45:36.099 --> 00:45:36.880
 just met like that.

00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:38.119
 I really want them to think about it.

00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:43.759
 I have done that at times where if they say, yeah, I want to be in that white car, then

00:45:43.759 --> 00:45:47.859
 I will go back again over the gospel to make sure they understand counting the cost.

00:45:48.380 --> 00:45:50.859
 And at times I've prayed, but very rarely.

00:45:51.059 --> 00:45:53.759
 Normally I'll just say, listen, I want you to come to bridge.

00:45:53.819 --> 00:45:55.819
 I want you to go to the bridge course and watch these videos.

00:45:55.900 --> 00:45:57.019
 I want you to come to church.

00:45:57.019 --> 00:46:00.500
 Read this track over again.

00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.099
 And I'll just say like at the end, just read this booklet over again.

00:46:03.219 --> 00:46:08.719
 And if this prayer captures your heart, if this is what you really think, then pray that

00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.460
 prayer to Jesus and he will save you.

00:46:10.739 --> 00:46:12.320
 But I usually kind of let them do that.

00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:15.239
 Not they are with me because there's things to think about.

00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:15.820
 There's questions.

00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:16.460
 It's very hard.

00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:17.920
 Think of it like marriage.

00:46:18.099 --> 00:46:21.599
 You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, we're marrying Christ.

00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.719
 It's very hard to meet somebody, you know, and talk to the, you know, for the first 10

00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.019
 minutes and then get married to them.

00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.460
 Like you need to think about some of those things.

00:46:29.500 --> 00:46:34.000
 So I usually just send them home with this, ask them to read it, to think about that, to

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.860
 go to the bridge course and watch some of those videos, to come to church and to get involved

00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:38.400
 in stuff.

00:46:39.319 --> 00:46:40.420
 But that's what this is.

00:46:40.460 --> 00:46:43.059
 It talks about the bridge course in church kind of as the next step.

00:46:43.299 --> 00:46:48.059
 And then the back page has an invitation to the bridge course on it.

00:46:48.059 --> 00:46:51.440
 And the bridge course has been really amazing for us.

00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.380
 We've just seen so many people come to Christ.

00:46:53.460 --> 00:46:57.079
 All those stories I read in the beginning are people that have come to the Lord, but there's

00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:58.339
 great videos on here.

00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:01.639
 We actually have people all over the world are watching these videos and we're getting

00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:06.960
 thousands of people going through these videos because they hit those topics.

00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:10.380
 So you can just point people to this website.

00:47:10.539 --> 00:47:12.579
 This is something you can go through with people.

00:47:13.219 --> 00:47:14.839
 You can take them through the course.

00:47:15.279 --> 00:47:17.259
 Hey, let's watch a video and then discuss it.

00:47:17.259 --> 00:47:18.339
 We have discussion questions.

00:47:18.500 --> 00:47:18.920
 It's simple.

00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.740
 So this is a good next step for them.

00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:26.059
 And then on the back is an invitation to church.

00:47:26.619 --> 00:47:27.820
 Ours are pre-printed, yours are not.

00:47:27.940 --> 00:47:32.680
 What I'd like you to do, we're going to put a video on now, if we can show that other

00:47:32.680 --> 00:47:36.220
 video, is for you guys to write down the information of your church.

00:47:36.420 --> 00:47:37.840
 So the name, what is it called?

00:47:37.980 --> 00:47:38.340
 Trinity?

00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:39.240
 Cambridge.

00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:39.639
 Trinity.

00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:40.339
 Trinity Cambridge.

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:42.439
 And then where do you guys meet?

00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.159
 What's the name of this school?

00:47:44.839 --> 00:47:45.379
 What's it called?

00:47:45.379 --> 00:47:45.879
 Kennedy Longfellow.

00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:47.179
 What is it?

00:47:47.279 --> 00:47:48.000
 Kennedy Longfellow.

00:47:48.279 --> 00:47:49.000
 Kennedy Longfellow.

00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:49.319
 Oh, good.

00:47:49.359 --> 00:47:50.279
 Yeah, we have Longfellow.

00:47:50.539 --> 00:47:50.739
 Right.

00:47:52.259 --> 00:47:53.299
 Kennedy Longfellow.

00:47:53.439 --> 00:47:54.399
 They couldn't make up their mind.

00:47:54.479 --> 00:47:55.279
 Do we want a president?

00:47:55.399 --> 00:47:56.039
 Do we want a poet?

00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:56.819
 Let's just do...

00:47:56.819 --> 00:47:57.479
 No, two separate people.

00:47:57.479 --> 00:47:57.759
 Okay.

00:47:58.939 --> 00:48:00.079
 Ah, good.

00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:00.639
 Thank you.

00:48:00.739 --> 00:48:00.859
 Okay.

00:48:01.699 --> 00:48:03.359
 Kennedy Longfellow, 10 a.m.

00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:05.139
 10 a.m., right?

00:48:05.279 --> 00:48:06.619
 So write Kennedy Longfellow.

00:48:06.879 --> 00:48:08.759
 And people would know Kennedy Longfellow, right?

00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:09.539
 Elementary school.

00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:10.119
 They're going to know this.

00:48:10.219 --> 00:48:11.420
 You don't...

00:48:11.420 --> 00:48:13.480
 They might not even need to put the address.

00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.839
 If you just put Kennedy Longfellow, would they know that, like, or can look that up?

00:48:17.500 --> 00:48:17.799
 All right.

00:48:19.259 --> 00:48:24.500
 I would just say Kennedy Longfellow, 10 a.m., and then website, because that gives them

00:48:24.500 --> 00:48:24.879
 everything.

00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:26.139
 So let's...

00:48:26.139 --> 00:48:29.719
 I want to show you this video where we actually take this out on the street to see how it's done.

00:48:30.659 --> 00:48:34.779
 And while we're doing that, if you guys wouldn't mind just writing that information down on

00:48:34.779 --> 00:48:35.819
 the tracks.

00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.419
 And there's some extra ones there.

00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:42.019
 Everybody should get, like, maybe, like, three or so tracks if you have it.

00:48:42.099 --> 00:48:42.239
 Okay?

00:48:42.879 --> 00:48:43.339
 So let's...

00:48:43.339 --> 00:48:46.519
 That one lady at the end, she's...

00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:48.139
 You can see she's convicted.

00:48:48.319 --> 00:48:48.919
 She's...

00:48:48.919 --> 00:48:50.500
 She's starting to see it.

00:48:50.539 --> 00:48:54.339
 You can see the conviction that's happening when she says, I'll consider that.

00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.500
 And you can see the effect that the law has on people.

00:48:58.500 --> 00:49:01.579
 It's like they're not justifying themselves anymore.

00:49:01.659 --> 00:49:05.900
 And that's one of the reasons I didn't mention the law is so important in this, because the

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:07.619
 law makes us knowledgeable of our sins.

00:49:07.699 --> 00:49:11.800
 So if you look, you know, Romans 3, and I think I put this in your outline, it defines

00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:13.760
 what thoughts and actions are sinful.

00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.780
 It reveals our guilt and stops us from making excuses.

00:49:17.739 --> 00:49:20.519
 And in Galatians 3, there, it tutors us and leads us to trust in Christ.

00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:24.780
 And so you can see how people start out feeling really good about themselves.

00:49:24.780 --> 00:49:30.460
 But as you go through the law, they become more convicted and see their sin more.

00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:32.619
 So, yeah.

00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.619
 So a couple tips that I'll give you, because what we're going to do now, and I hope you

00:49:37.619 --> 00:49:38.519
 guys can join us.

00:49:39.219 --> 00:49:39.739
 We're going to...

00:49:39.739 --> 00:49:43.900
 I think Sean went out to grab some pizza, and we were going to just do a gospel outreach

00:49:43.900 --> 00:49:46.759
 and go out and look for opportunities to share the gospel.

00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.140
 Now, what we do there, again, before you get scared to death, is we'll partner up with

00:49:51.140 --> 00:49:52.340
 people who have more experience.

00:49:52.460 --> 00:49:56.580
 So if you want to just go and watch and observe how that works, you can.

00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:58.660
 And we can do that.

00:49:59.500 --> 00:50:02.400
 A couple things that I found very helpful.

00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:08.780
 When you're doing this, again, what I do is I like to put a tract in my pocket.

00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:09.540
 Hold...

00:50:09.540 --> 00:50:10.240
 Can I borrow this for a second?

00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.620
 Is hold the questionnaire and say to somebody, does anybody have a pen?

00:50:14.619 --> 00:50:18.900
 And to hold a pen and say, hey, listen, we just have a little questionnaire here, spiritual...

00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:22.380
 We're a church in the area, and we're just asking people about their beliefs.

00:50:22.460 --> 00:50:23.019
 Do you have a second?

00:50:23.219 --> 00:50:25.960
 And I show it to them, so you can see it's short, five questions.

00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:26.739
 Great.

00:50:26.839 --> 00:50:27.279
 My name's...

00:50:27.279 --> 00:50:28.059
 Then I introduce myself.

00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:28.659
 My name's Jim.

00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:29.239
 What's your name?

00:50:29.319 --> 00:50:30.619
 And, oh, this is my friend Kevin.

00:50:30.980 --> 00:50:36.460
 So write down their name, and then go through that, just like I showed on the video.

00:50:36.980 --> 00:50:38.799
 And then when you get that, you circle their answer.

00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:43.000
 And after that, then I come out with a tract.

00:50:43.100 --> 00:50:46.880
 And you have to be somewhat careful, depending on where we're at in certain places.

00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.140
 Like, you can't be flashing a lot of, like, literature.

00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:53.460
 Some places, you're not allowed to give out literature, so you don't have to give them anything.

00:50:53.680 --> 00:50:58.840
 Usually the laws, like in malls and different things, is you're not allowed to solicit, like, hand stuff out.

00:50:59.340 --> 00:51:04.400
 But you can talk to them, and at the end, like, people will say, oh, could I have that?

00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:04.700
 Sure.

00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:06.419
 That's perfectly fine.

00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:08.359
 What you can't do is just be, like, pounding it out.

00:51:08.439 --> 00:51:15.199
 So I'll bring the tract out at that point, and then I'll get into a place where they can see it, and I'll circle it.

00:51:15.219 --> 00:51:21.059
 So I would not want to be doing this, like, if I'm sharing the tract with you where I'm reading it to you like this.

00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:22.419
 I don't want to do that.

00:51:22.439 --> 00:51:28.319
 I need to get somehow next to you so that we can go over it so you can see this, right?

00:51:28.859 --> 00:51:34.239
 Not me reading something to them, like, so that you both can see it, and you can read through it with them.

00:51:34.699 --> 00:51:36.659
 And hold it out so he can see it.

00:51:36.759 --> 00:51:37.899
 Put your hand on the shoulder, right?

00:51:38.099 --> 00:51:38.439
 Yes.

00:51:38.619 --> 00:51:40.579
 And say it in a semi-commanding tone of voice.

00:51:42.799 --> 00:51:44.339
 That's only the prayer at the end.

00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:45.539
 That's just at the end.

00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:49.359
 So you want to get where you're doing this.

00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.740
 Now, the other thing is when you're reading through it, read through it.

00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:56.680
 And then when you're looking up, you can talk to them, like, if you're having a conversation.

00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:00.340
 But you don't want to be, like, interrupting yourself because then they don't know where to focus.

00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:08.920
 And I found it's really helpful to read through this because it keeps them focused on the pictures, the page, the words, and it keeps them focused on the gospel.

00:52:09.059 --> 00:52:09.180
 Okay?

00:52:09.179 --> 00:52:11.799
 So this will help keep kind of moving forward.

00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.500
 And you can just read through that as I'm reading through this.

00:52:15.539 --> 00:52:16.759
 And then I'm checking the laws.

00:52:16.899 --> 00:52:17.899
 So, like, I might say that.

00:52:18.179 --> 00:52:20.139
 And if I'm interacting, okay, yep, we've broken that one.

00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:21.480
 And you saw how they were doing that.

00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.539
 They kept kind of interacting with the laws.

00:52:23.539 --> 00:52:25.460
 But make sure that they could see it.

00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:26.980
 And I find it's helpful to have a pen.

00:52:27.460 --> 00:52:29.659
 You know, then you can kind of check this stuff off.

00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:36.719
 And even though you saw little things, like they drew a little arrow across the cross, like where he got sick, you can just kind of do that or underline.

00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:39.179
 Do you know who the righteous are here if you want to add that?

00:52:39.340 --> 00:52:41.739
 Again, you don't have to add any of that.

00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:42.079
 Okay?

00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.259
 So those are just a couple tips.

00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.380
 You can share with larger groups, I have found.

00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.199
 But you might be scared to do that.

00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:54.399
 It's kind of intimidating.

00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.719
 You saw the one guy, Matt, was sharing with those other hippie kids.

00:52:57.819 --> 00:52:58.299
 Yeah, in that circle.

00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:00.839
 He's the guy that designed the track, that guy, Matt.

00:53:00.919 --> 00:53:02.279
 So he's the one that developed this.

00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:06.339
 He was sharing in that circle, which you can do.

00:53:06.460 --> 00:53:13.599
 And I've actually found that it helps sometimes for them to outnumber you.

00:53:13.779 --> 00:53:17.439
 Like if you're sometimes, you know, we definitely want to go two by two.

00:53:17.779 --> 00:53:20.460
 But sometimes it can be a little intimidating if it's two of us and one of you.

00:53:20.820 --> 00:53:24.679
 Sometimes it's helpful to have two people and then say to share it with two people.

00:53:25.740 --> 00:53:27.840
 And say, hey, can we ask, okay, what would you say to the answers?

00:53:27.980 --> 00:53:28.480
 What would you say?

00:53:28.539 --> 00:53:28.980
 What would you say?

00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.400
 And sometimes you'll find one person that might be more interested in another.

00:53:31.500 --> 00:53:32.240
 Or even a group.

00:53:32.340 --> 00:53:36.220
 Like Matt, there was a group of like, I think there might have been more than just two people there.

00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:37.920
 And then just take those answers.

00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:39.159
 They got the numbers.

00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:40.420
 You're the minority.

00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:41.400
 You're one person.

00:53:41.500 --> 00:53:42.099
 There are four people.

00:53:42.099 --> 00:53:44.219
 You might want to leave that to the experts.

00:53:44.380 --> 00:53:49.480
 But it does help to do that because you'll get some people that will kind of start bailing out of the conversation.

00:53:49.619 --> 00:53:52.480
 Other people that are more interested and it kind of weeds them out.

00:53:52.659 --> 00:53:52.839
 Okay.

00:53:52.840 --> 00:54:06.019
 Any questions at all about, we got some time here, about sharing the gospel, the booklet, reaching out to loved ones, neighbors, any questions?

00:54:06.019 --> 00:54:06.420
 Yes.

00:54:06.420 --> 00:54:09.019
 Just to say, set expectations for the group.

00:54:09.619 --> 00:54:12.179
 Like, you know, what about today?

00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:15.599
 Like, again, this is more just setting expectations kind of costly.

00:54:16.139 --> 00:54:20.519
 What percent of the time, right, do you actually get through the survey to the booklet?

00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:20.880
 Yeah.

00:54:20.980 --> 00:54:26.320
 And then once you open the booklet, like, you know, how many pages do you get through for the book?

00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:30.219
 Because I think I'm going to be all, like, disappointed if, like, I didn't finish the book.

00:54:30.219 --> 00:54:31.239
 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:31.539 --> 00:54:33.800
 And it's, that's a great question.

00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:39.460
 And it's funny, some people, it's really funny, it all depends.

00:54:39.580 --> 00:54:41.480
 And this is, you know, we're up here in Boston.

00:54:41.600 --> 00:54:42.200
 We're in the northeast.

00:54:42.380 --> 00:54:43.360
 It's a hard area.

00:54:43.600 --> 00:54:45.480
 But they're down, you know, in Philadelphia.

00:54:46.780 --> 00:54:50.019
 Younger people are usually much more open than older people, okay?

00:54:50.680 --> 00:54:57.600
 So if you get someone that's older, I often, I will do those because sometimes the spirit leaves, but it's just harder.

00:54:57.720 --> 00:54:59.019
 They just feel like you're scamming them.

00:54:59.140 --> 00:55:00.039
 They're just, they've been burned.

00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:01.660
 They're all burned over.

00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:02.620
 They're boomers, whatever.

00:55:02.620 --> 00:55:03.780
 They don't want to talk about that.

00:55:04.060 --> 00:55:06.240
 So you can get people that are like that.

00:55:06.460 --> 00:55:10.060
 So, but if you usually go to young people, like, if you're on a campus, people are very open.

00:55:11.260 --> 00:55:13.460
 Campuses a little bit are still more trained.

00:55:13.560 --> 00:55:16.680
 Like, if you're on a campus, people are wide.

00:55:16.740 --> 00:55:20.680
 These guys were in a park in Philadelphia, in Center City, Philadelphia.

00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:22.160
 So they're just down there in the middle.

00:55:22.700 --> 00:55:31.660
 If you have people from, I found that people from different ethnicities are more open than people who are just white, middle-class Americans.

00:55:31.659 --> 00:55:34.259
 People who are younger tend to be more open.

00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:37.440
 So you can kind of start there.

00:55:37.640 --> 00:55:40.060
 But, yeah, people will be willing to go through it.

00:55:41.120 --> 00:55:43.440
 They'll definitely, people like to answer questions.

00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:44.860
 So if you have this survey.

00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.220
 But usually you'll be able to get through that.

00:55:47.219 --> 00:55:52.179
 And once you get into it, usually, you know, I think you'll find it's more successful.

00:55:52.539 --> 00:55:55.019
 You'll be surprising how successful it is.

00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.900
 Sometimes you'll get people that won't, just won't want to do it.

00:55:57.920 --> 00:55:58.320
 And that's fine.

00:55:58.380 --> 00:55:59.340
 You say, okay, no problem.

00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:00.639
 Like, just be respectful of people.

00:56:00.699 --> 00:56:01.599
 It's okay if they don't want it.

00:56:01.619 --> 00:56:02.559
 They might have somewhere to go.

00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.920
 And often don't look for people that are kind of in a rush.

00:56:05.980 --> 00:56:07.820
 Like, if somebody's like, okay, can I talk to you?

00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:10.880
 There's somebody that's sitting down.

00:56:10.980 --> 00:56:12.500
 Like, let's say you go to the mall.

00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:13.340
 There's a food court.

00:56:13.420 --> 00:56:14.300
 Like, hey, we're doing this.

00:56:14.739 --> 00:56:16.179
 Could I ask you a couple questions?

00:56:16.259 --> 00:56:17.579
 Somebody that's got nowhere to go.

00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:21.219
 Like, one of the things that's worked really well, like, when we've gone to different places,

00:56:21.299 --> 00:56:24.400
 people in Outback on smoke breaks are just kind of sitting there.

00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:30.639
 The only thing is what I've seen is the rise of the smartphone, and people are always on their phones.

00:56:31.179 --> 00:56:33.239
 But people are just always on their phone.

00:56:33.299 --> 00:56:34.139
 They don't care about it.

00:56:34.139 --> 00:56:35.980
 Like, they just do it like robots.

00:56:36.139 --> 00:56:37.000
 Like, we just look at it.

00:56:37.299 --> 00:56:40.299
 So they'll be just like, oh, yeah, and they'll just put their phone down and do that.

00:56:40.299 --> 00:56:43.579
 So sometimes you have to kind of go through that.

00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:44.840
 But people are willing to do that.

00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.019
 But now one time I did it with somebody, and some people are just afraid of books.

00:56:48.120 --> 00:56:52.700
 It's like I was talking to them, and they were having a good case, and I brought the booklet out.

00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:54.700
 And they're like, oh, yeah, well, I don't want to.

00:56:55.019 --> 00:56:55.559
 And I was like, okay.

00:56:55.620 --> 00:57:01.400
 And then I'd put it away, and then they'd start talking again, and we would start having, you know, a good conversation.

00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.340
 And I said, well, let me show you something about it.

00:57:03.340 --> 00:57:04.280
 And they're like, no, no, no, no.

00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.960
 And so then we just talked.

00:57:08.120 --> 00:57:09.800
 I mean, I'm sure she probably talked to her for about a half an hour.

00:57:10.180 --> 00:57:12.360
 But if I brought this up, it was like, oh, no.

00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.000
 So it was just like, I don't know.

00:57:15.059 --> 00:57:16.780
 They had a serious aversion to.

00:57:17.260 --> 00:57:22.079
 And a lot of times I like to ask people when they describe what their experience has been.

00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:31.920
 Like people that have had bad experiences in church, and it makes, and I'll say, like, tell me about, you know, what was your experience?

00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:33.059
 Like, tell me about that.

00:57:33.140 --> 00:57:34.000
 Like, what happened?

00:57:34.180 --> 00:57:35.640
 And, yeah, that's really difficult.

00:57:35.780 --> 00:57:38.200
 I can see why that would be hard.

00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:47.099
 We have a guy that in our church, he got saved several years ago through our bridge course, and he's a good friend.

00:57:47.179 --> 00:57:54.500
 He sits with me and my family on church, and he's a little bit younger than me, but his wife is not a Christian,

00:57:54.919 --> 00:58:00.859
 and he's been trying to reach out to her for years, and she just, she's very Catholic,

00:58:00.860 --> 00:58:08.420
 and she just, she's been to a couple of the bridges, but she just, and he'll play the messages from church on Sunday.

00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:17.559
 They'll sit and listen, and she just came out last week that she actually had a good friend who,

00:58:17.720 --> 00:58:25.120
 whose dad was a Christian, and she was Catholic, but her friend was, you know, more like an evangelical Christian.

00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:33.500
 And dad was very religious and quoting scripture, and the dad abused the daughter, and she found out.

00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:41.099
 So she, that whole thing is just like, he was like religious and Christian, and this is what he did.

00:58:42.139 --> 00:58:48.019
 And she's like, I don't, and so, okay, now you're seeing, like, there's stuff in there, stuff behind.

00:58:48.380 --> 00:58:50.179
 It's not just this person's angry.

00:58:50.319 --> 00:58:53.279
 They're just coming out because this is what they've experienced.

00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:57.820
 So, so sometimes just in that survey, just asking follow-up questions and getting to know people.

00:58:58.340 --> 00:59:02.640
 But if people have time, a lot of times people will go through, and it's okay if they don't just, you know,

00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:06.680
 go on to the next person and trust that God's going to lead you to the right person.

00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.620
 So, so that was a great, that was a great question.

00:59:10.300 --> 00:59:10.620
 Good.

00:59:10.720 --> 00:59:11.220
 Other questions?

00:59:11.300 --> 00:59:11.680
 Who else had?

00:59:11.780 --> 00:59:12.000
 Yes.

00:59:13.200 --> 00:59:18.280
 I found that going from, like, the first page, to, like, how do you, like, how do you, like,

00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:23.380
 so, like, the second page Bible teaches, like, getting to God, trying to be good person is impossible.

00:59:23.720 --> 00:59:30.980
 I can, like, I was a little confused, and then I can see some people, like, not, like, getting to the page of, like,

00:59:31.540 --> 00:59:37.280
 getting to God, it was, like, goodness, or, like, like, some guy, the guy from the video was saying, like,

00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:43.740
 I don't think I'm going with Jesus, but, like, I don't think I'm going to hell.

00:59:43.940 --> 00:59:44.200
 Yeah.

00:59:44.200 --> 00:59:47.040
 I feel like there's, like, not everyone's going to think that.

00:59:47.340 --> 00:59:47.640
 Yeah.

00:59:47.700 --> 00:59:48.940
 People would, like, get to that.

00:59:49.340 --> 00:59:49.620
 Yeah.

00:59:50.340 --> 00:59:50.700
 Right.

00:59:50.780 --> 00:59:55.960
 Or, like, even the one, did you hear Matt Bomberger said, yeah, if there is a God.

00:59:56.300 --> 00:59:58.160
 Because he said, well, I don't even know.

00:59:58.240 --> 01:00:02.720
 Okay, well, if there is a God, then, and then he just kind of kept going through it.

01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:07.480
 So, again, the hard part is people don't know what they don't know, and they don't know the gospel.

01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:13.019
 So that's where some of your goal, like, some people are going to be way back before the track.

01:00:13.139 --> 01:00:15.500
 Like, I don't believe in the existence of God.

01:00:16.019 --> 01:00:17.079
 I'm an atheist.

01:00:17.919 --> 01:00:20.259
 I'm way back over here.

01:00:20.699 --> 01:00:25.139
 And that can be harder, like, and so, you know, do you have a conversation about science and evolution?

01:00:25.500 --> 01:00:28.199
 You could do that, like, but that often happens better.

01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:31.480
 Like, you want them to say, well, can I just show you this so you know?

01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:39.099
 Well, a lot of people don't really know what the Bible teaches, and they don't know what the true message of the Bible is.

01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:40.760
 So could I just go through this?

01:00:41.219 --> 01:00:48.599
 But even so, most people, which is surprising, and I, this, so this track was designed in the Philadelphia area.

01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:50.380
 This is where I am.

01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.219
 It's a very Catholic area, very much kind of, you know, good works.

01:00:54.460 --> 01:00:57.240
 But I've used this in so many different places, different religions.

01:00:57.579 --> 01:01:00.940
 There's just a sense of just this idea that we're going to be good enough to get there.

01:01:00.940 --> 01:01:11.260
 Whether that's Buddhist, whether that's Islam, whether that's Judaism, whether that's Catholicism, Christianity, just even people that are not, have nothing to do with God, yeah, I'm basically a good person.

01:01:11.539 --> 01:01:16.480
 So it really hits on that idea that there's a sense we have to earn or merit.

01:01:16.700 --> 01:01:18.360
 And that's pretty universal.

01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:19.740
 Not everybody thinks that.

01:01:19.739 --> 01:01:24.439
 But it's still you want them to see, like, there's a standard.

01:01:24.799 --> 01:01:30.639
 And most people will compare themselves to others to come out feeling okay about themselves.

01:01:30.699 --> 01:01:34.599
 Even if they're not a Christian, they just kind of feel like, yeah, in general, I'm a good person.

01:01:35.919 --> 01:01:38.259
 So, but again, I think the world is changing.

01:01:38.359 --> 01:01:39.459
 You have people that aren't in that.

01:01:39.539 --> 01:01:43.759
 Just say, well, would you mind if we just went through this so I can kind of show you what this would go?

01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:44.300
 Oh, yeah, sure.

01:01:44.620 --> 01:01:47.020
 Because the gospel is the power of God for salvation.

01:01:47.160 --> 01:01:48.200
 That's what saves people.

01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:52.360
 And that message can change them, regenerate their hearts, and save them.

01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:56.500
 So that's why we want to try to, if we can, get them through it.

01:01:56.740 --> 01:02:05.160
 So, like, for instance, I was talking to a guy at University of Louisville, and he was a Ph.D. science guy who's a teaching assistant and all this stuff.

01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:09.179
 So we, he had these questions, but we went through the track.

01:02:09.279 --> 01:02:10.940
 I got all the way through it.

01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:19.480
 And then we started talking about science, and we went, we had probably, like, I don't know, we probably talked for, like, 25 minutes or something.

01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:27.000
 And had this, all this conversation about Lucy and, you know, and evolution and these different kinds of things that we really got into.

01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:28.219
 It was a great conversation.

01:02:28.219 --> 01:02:34.219
 But I was really glad that didn't happen first, that I now know that he knows the gospel.

01:02:34.539 --> 01:02:38.199
 He actually has that track, and he heard what the gospel is.

01:02:38.259 --> 01:02:43.279
 Now we're wrestling over here with evolution and all that stuff, which is helpful.

01:02:43.419 --> 01:02:45.459
 Probably not going to argue him away from that.

01:02:46.439 --> 01:02:48.259
 But the gospel is what can change his life.

01:02:48.339 --> 01:02:48.839
 Does that make sense?

01:02:48.879 --> 01:02:49.980
 Am I answering your question at all?

01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:51.839
 Follow up on that.

01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:57.320
 Is it the right way to respond if someone's like, oh, but, like, I don't think I need to, like, believe in God to be good?

01:02:57.620 --> 01:03:05.900
 Then would you, like, would it be a good approach to say, like, oh, yes, I understand, but the Bible says this is the case.

01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:07.320
 Would you, like, want to hear about that?

01:03:07.660 --> 01:03:12.220
 Yeah, or just say the Bible says that you don't have to be good to get to heaven either.

01:03:13.820 --> 01:03:16.400
 That the Bible actually says nobody's good.

01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:28.960
 So you could throw them off by that, because if they're thinking that you're saying you have to be good to get to heaven, you're going to show them, no, you can't be good enough to get to heaven.

01:03:29.300 --> 01:03:29.500
 Right?

01:03:29.820 --> 01:03:33.260
 Or, like, if their response is, like, I don't really care.

01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.440
 Like, I don't think there is heaven or hell.

01:03:35.500 --> 01:03:35.960
 Mm-hmm.

01:03:37.579 --> 01:03:39.760
 Or, like, I don't think that's relevant to me.

01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:40.059
 Yeah.

01:03:40.059 --> 01:03:41.280
 I don't really care about heaven or hell.

01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:42.039
 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:50.639
 Then I would just say, you know, do you think it's possible that heaven and hell are real?

01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:55.980
 So sometimes if you just word it in those phrases, do you think it's possible?

01:03:56.219 --> 01:03:57.779
 Well, I don't really believe in the Bible.

01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:06.119
 Do you think it's possible that, you know, God could have inspired people to write down what he wanted them to write down?

01:04:06.179 --> 01:04:06.960
 Do you think that's possible?

01:04:07.300 --> 01:04:08.199
 Yeah, I guess it's possible.

01:04:08.259 --> 01:04:08.960
 That's what I believe.

01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:16.519
 So sometimes you're just getting them to gain a little bit on what, you know, do you think it's possible that there is a God?

01:04:16.619 --> 01:04:22.720
 Do you think it's possible that God has laws and that he requires certain things from us?

01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:23.699
 Yeah, that's what I believe.

01:04:24.380 --> 01:04:27.940
 But you're not trying to get them to say, like, okay, here's how good you have to believe.

01:04:28.220 --> 01:04:31.599
 So you'll get people that will say that, but they'll say, do you understand?

01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:32.679
 Have you ever read the Bible?

01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:37.879
 You know, a lot of people have tons of opinions about it, but they've never even read the Bible.

01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:40.099
 Have you ever read it?

01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:41.059
 No, I haven't.

01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:46.019
 Okay, well, I think it would be helpful to read something before you disagree with it.

01:04:46.139 --> 01:04:48.919
 And a lot of people misunderstand the main message of the Bible.

01:04:49.259 --> 01:04:51.919
 The message of the Bible is not be a good person and you'll get to heaven.

01:04:51.980 --> 01:04:52.879
 It's actually the opposite.

01:04:53.019 --> 01:04:54.419
 So can I show you that real quick?

01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.039
 So things like that that can kind of help.

01:04:57.099 --> 01:04:58.239
 Does that make sense?

01:04:58.519 --> 01:04:59.980
 Those are good questions.

01:05:00.980 --> 01:05:01.259
 Good.

01:05:01.319 --> 01:05:01.539
 Who else?

01:05:01.539 --> 01:05:01.719
 Yeah.

01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:07.940
 So something I've encountered, like, in this area especially,

01:05:08.259 --> 01:05:10.920
 we'll be talking about things like this very quickly.

01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.980
 People want to know, like, what's your church's stance on, like, LGBT?

01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:16.119
 Yeah.

01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:18.159
 Yeah.

01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:18.759
 Uh-huh.

01:05:19.219 --> 01:05:20.380
 I know that...

01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:20.800
 Gotta go.

01:05:21.719 --> 01:05:24.880
 Well, I know that that shouldn't be the focus.

01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:25.519
 Yeah.

01:05:25.579 --> 01:05:26.539
 What we're talking about.

01:05:26.659 --> 01:05:26.920
 Yeah.

01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:28.920
 But when...

01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:29.920
 I imagine...

01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.380
 Yes.

01:05:32.380 --> 01:05:35.139
 What is your way of guiding the conversation?

01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:35.659
 Yeah.

01:05:37.200 --> 01:05:40.880
 So, again, just say, hey, that's a great question.

01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:43.960
 Can we talk about that after we get through this?

01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:49.280
 Because as soon as you talk about that and they have you pit, boom, you're out of the conversation.

01:05:49.420 --> 01:05:50.119
 They're not going to hear.

01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:51.380
 You know what I mean?

01:05:51.500 --> 01:05:56.740
 It's kind of like if I was in the Philadelphia, as I said, I'm a Cowboys fan.

01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:58.500
 They're not hearing anything else at that point.

01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.159
 They're just like, I can't listen to this guy.

01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:01.159
 He's an idiot.

01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:02.159
 Like, you can't...

01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.119
 Like, he has a Yankee sweatshirt on.

01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:05.299
 This is, like, ridiculous.

01:06:05.579 --> 01:06:09.019
 Like, as soon as they see that, they're like, this guy, I'm totally against...

01:06:09.019 --> 01:06:10.239
 I hate this guy.

01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:11.239
 I hate Christianity.

01:06:11.339 --> 01:06:12.480
 They're just going to trash everything.

01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:14.960
 So you have to be, I think, be careful there.

01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:20.079
 So I would try to push it to the end to say, you know, that is a great question.

01:06:20.579 --> 01:06:24.199
 And then I would just wait till the end.

01:06:24.539 --> 01:06:27.359
 And then wherever you can, you...

01:06:27.359 --> 01:06:28.900
 And I have an answer for that.

01:06:28.900 --> 01:06:32.940
 But wherever you can, I like to ask them questions.

01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:35.740
 Well, have you ever read the Bible?

01:06:35.860 --> 01:06:38.119
 Or what do you think the Bible says about LGBT?

01:06:38.660 --> 01:06:40.440
 Or what have you seen?

01:06:40.740 --> 01:06:49.180
 What's your experience been of how Christians interact with the gay community?

01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.760
 So part of it is just drawing them out, seeing what they say first.

01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:59.900
 And then, you know, and then even looking where you can from, what do you think...

01:06:59.900 --> 01:07:00.700
 How do you think Jesus...

01:07:00.700 --> 01:07:05.180
 What do you think Jesus would have done with the LGBT community?

01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:06.360
 Oh, I think he would have loved them.

01:07:06.380 --> 01:07:07.820
 I said, yeah, I think you're partially right.

01:07:07.860 --> 01:07:08.320
 I think you would.

01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:13.000
 And there's actually a story in there where a woman that was caught in adultery...

01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:13.500
 So...

01:07:13.500 --> 01:07:19.220
 And Jesus showed her mercy when everybody else was trying to condemn her and stone her.

01:07:19.640 --> 01:07:21.040
 But then you know what he did at the end?

01:07:21.080 --> 01:07:22.480
 He said, go and sin no more.

01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:24.440
 He didn't ignore the sin.

01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:30.159
 And so I often tell people, I'll say, I think there are a lot of sexual sins.

01:07:30.260 --> 01:07:32.260
 I think there are a lot of things that are sin in the Bible.

01:07:32.579 --> 01:07:44.920
 Not just homosexual sins or homosexual sex, but adultery, pornography, people abusing others, rape.

01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:49.280
 I think there's tons of sexual sins and they're all sin and God's against them all.

01:07:49.699 --> 01:07:50.940
 And I think homosexual is one.

01:07:50.940 --> 01:07:57.460
 But God's posture toward us is that he loves us and he forgives us and he calls us to change.

01:07:57.900 --> 01:07:59.300
 So there's ways of doing it.

01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:04.420
 But the problem is, once you do that in the beginning, it's like, the conversation is blown up.

01:08:04.539 --> 01:08:07.800
 Now we're not having a conversation anymore.

01:08:08.260 --> 01:08:09.619
 You've been stereotyped.

01:08:10.019 --> 01:08:11.280
 You're some kind of Republican.

01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:12.820
 We're against you.

01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:14.079
 You know what I mean?

01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:17.039
 You lose your ability to have that conversation.

01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.979
 So sometimes questions will go away, too.

01:08:20.300 --> 01:08:21.279
 Well, how do you know the Bible's through?

01:08:21.340 --> 01:08:22.539
 Well, that's a great question.

01:08:23.500 --> 01:08:24.619
 Let's talk about that at the end.

01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.340
 And sometimes just in that gospel conversation, they'll forget about it.

01:08:27.340 --> 01:08:29.440
 Part of it is trying to sniff out.

01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.560
 Some questions are kind of like smoke screens.

01:08:32.659 --> 01:08:33.600
 It's not a real question.

01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:35.980
 It's just designed to blow things up.

01:08:36.020 --> 01:08:38.039
 It might not be a real question that they have.

01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:40.619
 So that part of it is trying to sniff out.

01:08:41.100 --> 01:08:42.920
 Do they really have a question about that?

01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:46.659
 Or are they just trying to dismiss everything and judge and write everything off?

01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:47.300
 You know what I mean?

01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:48.840
 Like, well, what about evolution?

01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:50.260
 Do they really have a question about that?

01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:50.860
 Maybe they don't.

01:08:51.719 --> 01:08:52.979
 And so it's hard to discern that.

01:08:53.059 --> 01:08:53.899
 Yeah, John, what were you going to say?

01:08:54.139 --> 01:08:55.239
 I don't know if it's helpful.

01:08:55.399 --> 01:09:01.219
 But I think, like, one thought, at least, like, in interaction with a lot of folks who identify as...

01:09:01.219 --> 01:09:01.420
 Yeah.

01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:07.179
 I think this lends to the generational discussion, even though I don't think it's convenient with just...

01:09:07.179 --> 01:09:07.500
 Yeah.

01:09:07.500 --> 01:09:09.199
 Well, I don't think Gen Z event.

01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:14.380
 Nothing against Gen X and humans, but they actually propagated most of the stuff in the culture.

01:09:14.559 --> 01:09:15.839
 And millennials just deepened it up.

01:09:16.979 --> 01:09:20.839
 But, like, maybe this is another track at some point.

01:09:21.380 --> 01:09:22.539
 Or something to use.

01:09:22.719 --> 01:09:22.920
 Yeah.

01:09:23.179 --> 01:09:30.819
 Instead of, like, identifying based on morality, per se, or, like, how good my life is, it's about how loving I am and what my identity is.

01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:33.960
 And so it almost becomes its own animal.

01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:39.679
 And, unfortunately, it's, like, I think what you've said is probably the best approach right now.

01:09:39.939 --> 01:09:50.059
 But, like, when it becomes not just a perspective, but a cultural group, which it is now, it's, like, like you mentioned yesterday, it's, like, they sense it as racism.

01:09:50.539 --> 01:09:50.800
 Yeah.

01:09:50.800 --> 01:10:01.800
 Like, even if we go to scripture, it's, like, like you're saying, they completely shut down because you're not just, you can't compare my lifestyle to rape because this is who I am.

01:10:01.860 --> 01:10:02.600
 This is my identity.

01:10:02.860 --> 01:10:03.100
 Yeah.

01:10:03.100 --> 01:10:06.539
 So, like, it's going to take, that's where it's, like.

01:10:06.579 --> 01:10:06.920
 Yeah.

01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:15.119
 I find it extremely challenging in terms of, I think, yeah, I think going through this is good for them to ruin it first.

01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.800
 But then the process of stripping away identities is, like.

01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:19.119
 Yeah.

01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:19.199
 Yeah.

01:10:19.619 --> 01:10:24.159
 Well, it's, it's, it is, well, and part of it, it's just the stereotypes.

01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:27.380
 I mean, we are under massive stereotypes.

01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:30.180
 And, and the problem is a lot of Christians reinforce it.

01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:31.079
 So I'll give you an example.

01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:34.960
 I was at an abortion clinic that I go to periodically.

01:10:35.699 --> 01:10:42.279
 And, and there were these, so, so there's people going in for abortions and we're trying to talk to them.

01:10:42.819 --> 01:10:44.600
 There's a group.

01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:47.300
 Most of these people are this Catholic group.

01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:52.980
 And some of them are just yelling, screaming at people.

01:10:53.700 --> 01:10:55.260
 It's a death house in there.

01:10:55.320 --> 01:10:56.260
 It's a death house.

01:10:56.500 --> 01:11:01.400
 And doing terrible things like pretending to the kid going, eh, mommy, no, don't.

01:11:01.480 --> 01:11:04.600
 Like mocking and just being angry.

01:11:05.440 --> 01:11:10.039
 And so I, you know, one time I was there and this and, and, and I have this.

01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:14.680
 And I can tap into this boldness that I have at times.

01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:16.019
 And I was like, okay, what do I do?

01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:16.720
 Should I say something?

01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:18.760
 You know, and I was like, I'm tapping into the boldness.

01:11:18.819 --> 01:11:19.399
 I'm like, excuse me.

01:11:19.939 --> 01:11:22.979
 And I talked to the Catholic woman that was doing this.

01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.380
 And I said, I just started asking her all kinds of questions.

01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:29.699
 I said, hey, I just want to talk to you about, you know, kind of what you're doing.

01:11:30.260 --> 01:11:32.019
 You know, how, how you're approaching that.

01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:33.579
 You know, have you found that to be effective?

01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:34.880
 And yeah, I have.

01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:36.260
 Well, you know, some people need to be scared.

01:11:36.260 --> 01:11:38.460
 And I said, I said, yeah.

01:11:38.460 --> 01:11:42.279
 I said, do you, what do you think they think about us?

01:11:43.300 --> 01:11:48.520
 What do you think their view of us is as kind of a pro-life thing?

01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.260
 And she just couldn't answer these questions.

01:11:51.340 --> 01:11:57.420
 I said, I think they think we hate them and that they're the enemy.

01:11:57.739 --> 01:12:03.000
 And I think that what you're doing is reinforcing that because you're coming off so angry.

01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:06.539
 You're reinforcing like we're against you.

01:12:06.539 --> 01:12:11.460
 And so I actually suggested a better way of doing that is to relate to them.

01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:18.560
 And so when they get out of the car, they, I say something like, I know this is really a hard choice.

01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:22.119
 So I'm just trying to reconnect with them.

01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:23.720
 You know, I know this really hard choice.

01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:25.920
 And I also appeal to their conscience.

01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:31.920
 I say, but I, I know, you know, that this, this baby's real and, and you don't have to make this choice.

01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:34.819
 There are other options and we can help you with that.

01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:39.199
 So I'm trying to be sympathetic, not, you know, like that.

01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:41.420
 We reinforce those stereotypes.

01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:46.220
 Evangelism, you have to work so hard to undo those stereotypes.

01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:52.119
 One of the things they think when you, when they raise that LGBT issue is you are self-righteous.

01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:53.840
 You think you're better than others.

01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:55.399
 You think you're morally superior.

01:12:55.599 --> 01:12:59.819
 So you have to work to undercut that, try to cut that out.

01:12:59.899 --> 01:13:05.079
 That's part of why I say there's, I think, I think I'm the biggest sinner that I know.

01:13:05.460 --> 01:13:07.199
 And I've committed sexual sin.

01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:08.220
 I've lusted.

01:13:08.579 --> 01:13:10.359
 I've looked at pornography when I was younger.

01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:15.279
 Or I've treated women in ways that are, are not godly.

01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:16.659
 And that's wrong.

01:13:16.699 --> 01:13:17.699
 And I shouldn't do that.

01:13:17.759 --> 01:13:20.559
 Like, I want to immediately try to undercut.

01:13:21.179 --> 01:13:25.679
 And I think lots of things are sin, not, not just homosexual sex.

01:13:25.759 --> 01:13:28.119
 I think there's other, there's plenty of ways to sin.

01:13:28.219 --> 01:13:29.159
 And I've sinned.

01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:34.119
 And I think the reason that Jesus came was not to save people who think they're righteous or better than others.

01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:35.279
 I don't think I'm better than you.

01:13:35.779 --> 01:13:38.420
 To save people who are sinners and people who are knowledge of sin.

01:13:38.420 --> 01:13:42.399
 Like, I'm desperately trying to undercut where they're placing me, right?

01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:50.260
 Where they want to get me into some angry, Republican, conservative, you know, whatever.

01:13:50.440 --> 01:13:53.159
 Like, they have me in those stereotypes, and that makes it really hard.

01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:56.420
 So start out by trying to undercut that.

01:13:57.140 --> 01:13:58.760
 So even the pro-life thing, I was trying to help them.

01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.440
 We have to undercut and say, no, we're not angry.

01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:02.079
 We care.

01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:03.020
 We love them.

01:14:03.020 --> 01:14:10.580
 We sympathize with a girl in college who has gotten pregnant and is being told that her life is ruined because she's going to have a baby.

01:14:10.980 --> 01:14:11.320
 And she can't.

01:14:11.360 --> 01:14:17.520
 That's something we need to come alongside of her and sympathize with, not come up and yell at her.

01:14:18.380 --> 01:14:19.500
 So do you see what I'm saying?

01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.820
 So how do we get out from under that?

01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:27.020
 How do we get out from under that stereotype to kind of pave the way for the gospel?

01:14:27.020 --> 01:14:34.940
 That's also, again, why community is so important because when they see more than one, they say, okay, these people aren't angry.

01:14:35.080 --> 01:14:35.780
 They're actually loving.

01:14:35.900 --> 01:14:37.680
 Okay, they're not as crazy as I thought.

01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:39.880
 They're not weird conservatives.

01:14:40.100 --> 01:14:41.660
 They're, like, loving, kind.

01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:42.880
 They care about their family.

01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:44.060
 They love other people.

01:14:44.440 --> 01:14:45.300
 They start to see that.

01:14:45.360 --> 01:14:45.940
 Do you see what I'm saying?

01:14:45.980 --> 01:14:49.140
 And that undercuts their stereotype, and that's a big part of what we need to do.

01:14:50.580 --> 01:14:51.100
 All right.

01:14:51.100 --> 01:14:52.100
 Let's, we should approach.

01:14:52.220 --> 01:14:52.280
 Should we?