Healing in Christ I

Let us pray. O God, the source of all health, so fill our hearts with faith in your love, that with calm Amen.

Please be seated. It's interesting the two songs you chose. Many, many years ago, I was a vice commandant of the Air Force Chaplain School.

And so we would have chaplains come in in all states of disrepair, and we would try to get healing for them and instruction so that they could go out and do their jobs as chaplains.

And I was teaching an elective in what we call contemplation. And I just thought we'd sing a couple of songs that touched our hearts.

And these are the two songs. And Mary Ellen, Steve DeGueck did the guitar. These were new songs. We had to teach these songs to the chaplains. When we finished singing, tears were running down their faces.

I don't know if you looked at these words. These are love songs to Christ. Beautiful. Well, Mary Ellen is my wife.

I'm Dave. We're very happy to be with you. And for this week and for the next three weeks after this, I'm supposed to be over here by the mic and so are you, Mary Ellen.

So I wandered away from the mic. I have a schedule and a faithful forest if you would hand that out.

This is where we'll be going over these four weeks together. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. that just the substance is different. Because it comes down to getting caught up in sin and it invades our bodies and becomes an illness.

And then the last Sunday is going to be about suffering. When we think God's saying no. Why does that happen?

Why doesn't he say yes all the time? What was that movie? The guy was... God went on vacation and left him in charge.

One of those. Evan. Almighty Evan. Evan Almighty. So God left him in charge and he thought he'd just say yes to everybody. So the computer requests were coming in and he was going yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

The stock market broke because everybody wanted to win on the stock market. Everybody can't win on the stock market. Everybody can't win on the lottery. And so sometimes God says, well, you know what?

That's... Well, we'll talk about that in four weeks. Then we'll talk about parish methods and we'll finally have a commissioning. Okay, so that's where we're going. Tonight we're talking about rekindling the fire.

Question, how many hands raise if you have ever lit a wood fire in a fireplace? Most of us know about doing that. What happens if you don't tend the fire?

Yeah, it'll just sort of simmer down and basically you end up with embers. What we're talking about is the fires of revival in faith.

How we rekindle the fire. How we turn the embers back into flame. How do we ask the Holy Spirit to inflame us?

Because only the Holy Spirit can inflame us. Okay, so... Slide. There we go.

So I'm going to be saying slide a lot and that's Jim's tip-off to flip to the next slide. See, Forrest and I learned that in the armed forces. You say slide and something magical happens on the screen.

So now you want to go back a couple. There we go. There you go. I see every time I say slide, you get the button. So we're talking about revival in Christian healing.

God is doing a revival in our present age, in case you hadn't noticed. And a lot of it is being done in healing. So we'll talk about the physical, emotional, relational, and spiritual aspects of healing slide.

That's you. That's me. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Dave and I first met in 1966, and that was before I was a librarian.

I was in college in Montevallo, Alabama, and I was on a Thanksgiving holiday in Pensacola, Florida, and he was in flight school in Pensacola, and we met in his house.

He was renting a house with three other marine flight students. And my former roommate, who I was visiting, was dating one of his roommates.

So we just kind of walked into his house. we've been together ever since. We met in November of 1966 and got married in June of 1967.

We decided that since I grew up in the Christian Science Church and he grew up in the Roman Catholic Church, we decided, he decided that Middle Road was the Episcopal Church.

sounded right to me. It wasn't for me, but it was very, very strange for me. But I went along and we when we met, we weren't really believers.

And so it took us a couple of years to become believers. Could you throw your voice one more? There's some people who can't hear.

Oh, I'm sorry. It took us a couple of years to become believers and Dave became a believer in Vietnam and came back.

He went to Vietnam a pagan and came back a believer. I wasn't real excited about that. but in a few months after that I became a believer in myself.

I gave my life to Jesus Christ. And it was fun, interesting, rocky.

we did a lot of Bible studies together and on the way I was introduced to the Holy Spirit through a program in the Catholic Church called Life in the Spirit.

And that was very beneficial for me. and then in around in the mid-80s I was introduced to healing prayer in Woodbridge, Virginia.

And then in the 90s, late 90s I was reintroduced to it in Greenwich, New York working with Father Nigel Mumford.

for several years. I was on his prayer ministry team. And that was very very exciting and challenging and I went through all four levels of the McNutt School of Healing Prayer and then I also helped facilitate those levels at the Spiritual Life Center in Greenwich.

My healing ministry now we just moved here from Woodbridge, Virginia and in Woodbridge we restarted the healing ministry at that church down there and they now have a very active healing ministry on Sunday mornings during communion.

communion they have at least two prayer teams on duty during communion every Sunday morning and many times they'll they need more than just the two teams so that we started out with one team and maybe they didn't see anyone during the entire service and I know I remember one Sunday morning there were at least four teams back there and still a line waiting for people waiting to be prayed for so and this is just the beginning for us here I'm not sure where this is going to take us here so back to 1966 I wasn't looking for a wife but she showed up and

I fell in love immediately we had absolutely zero spiritual basis for our relationship I'm kind of embarrassed to say that today but the Lord took a little longer and let us cook for a while before he popped us out as believers Mary Ellen was in a strange religion called Christian science which I didn't understand back in those days I felt all religions were kind of on a par and so she's Christian science I don't know what that is but it's got Christian in it so it must be okay and we had to learn a lot about each other and about each other's faith background although we didn't have a lot of faith you could put both our faith in a thimble at that point the Lord worked with me through a fellow marine he was a lay person so was I and he just came along beside me and led me to

Christ that's why I'm so strong on lay people touching! lay people he used what they call today friendship evangelism and I went from a all religions are the same and I don't understand any of them to Jesus is my Lord and Savior and that is exciting and books kept being pumped at me one of them was peace with God by Billy Graham another was the sword what is it the cross and the switch blade David Wilkerson and then Dennis Bennett was just coming on the scene at nine o'clock in the morning and so I read nine o'clock in the morning later in 1970 but these books were what God was using to cement my relationship to Christ and in that the filling of the Holy Spirit and along with that a new understanding of healing when

I went through seminary there were zero courses in Christian healing but then I found out about the order of St. Luke the physician and I went through their course and passed with flying colors because there wasn't any final test and then I began to work in the whole area of healing in the parish!

I always had healing service in midweek in the parish we were I was really serious about that but when I became the suffrican bishop for Hurricane Dan Herzog in the Diocese of Albany I realized I needed to get caught up with him and so we did a lot of praying together and learning together as just what it means to be instruments of healing and so as we talk through this tonight we're going to see that we have really kind of missed the boat in traditional Christianity when it comes to healing so that's where we're going at this point and I believe and I have pretty good backing on this that God is still in the healing business today okay Mary Ellen!

there are many examples of people being healed in the Old Testament and I'm going to read a few of those first first first one is Numbers 21 verses 7 through 9 therefore the people came to Moses and said we have sinned for we have spoken against the Lord and against you pray to the Lord that he take away the serpents from us so Moses prayed for the people then the Lord said to Moses make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole and it shall be that everyone who is bitten when he looks at it shall live so Moses made a bronze serpent and put it on a pole and so it was if a serpent had bitten!

anyone when he looked at the bronze serpent he lived and the next one is 1st Kings 17 21 through 24 21 okay and he stretched himself out on the child three times and cried out to the Lord and said oh Lord my God I pray let this child soul come back to him then the Lord heard the voice of Elijah and the soul of the child came back to him and he revived and Elijah took the child and brought him down from the upper room into the house and gave him to his mother and

Elijah said see your son lives then the woman said to Elijah now by this I know that you are a man of God and that the word of the Lord in your mouth is the truth and I forgot to say slide slide okay second chronicle 7 14 probably most of you know this one by heart if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land and Isaiah 53 verse 5 but he was wounded for our discretion transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities the chastisement for our peace was upon him and by his stripes we are healed most of the new testament is filled with spiritual physical emotional healing the greek word sozo actually means both salvation from sin and healing other greek words in new testament include therapeutic healing and hygiene or returning to health matthew 4 23 and 24 and jesus went about all galilee teaching in their synagogues preaching the gospel of the kingdom and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people then his fame went throughout all syria and they brought to him all sick people who were afflicted with various diseases and torments and those who were demon possessed epileptics and paralytics and he healed them jesus came to the people offering a threefold ministry teaching preaching and healing jesus healed people of unclean spirits or demonic activity leprosy blindness deafness blood diseases epilepsy dropsy fever greed and other ailments he also forgave people their sins and thus healed their hearts but healing didn't end as some try to teach when jesus left the earth or when his apostles died out he commissioned his disciples to continue that ministry along with the preaching and teaching listen to what luke 9 1 says then he called his twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority all over all demons and to cure diseases the the book of acts is filled with miracle healing stories by

Peter John Paul and others and the early church even had a healing service and that's in James 5 13 through 15 is anyone among you suffering let him pray is anyone cheerful let him sing psalms is anyone among you sick let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over him anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord and the prayer of the faith will save the sick and the Lord will raise him up and if he has committed sins he will be forgiven the scriptures inspired by the Holy Spirit call the church to a ministry of spiritual physical emotional and relational healing healing healing is supposed to be as important in a church's life as preaching teaching and the eucharist slide so we went through this not because we think you didn't know it but it's the foundation what we do is founded on scripture healing is throughout scripture so

Jesus healed people and he told his disciples to heal and they were to pass on the healing ministry as the church grew I have a question for you what happened to healing slide why did the healing ministry take a back seat and then get put in the trunk of the car we call the church did the laying on of hands and miracle healings stop with the dying of the last apostles as some teach not according to history slide there was a doctor of the church named Tertullian he was a second century lawyer he came up with the word trinity by the way for God Father Son and Holy Spirit he said this the noblest work for a Christian is to exorcise demons and perform cures next slide so

Irenaeus was another leader he was in the third century an intellectual bishop he taught Christian healing and then John Chrysostom in the fourth century remember we have the prayer of John Chrysostom in our prayer book we said it I'll bet you said it today that's right because you had morning prayer he described the church as a hospital for sinners rather than a museum for saints St.

John Chrysostom was sometimes called marble mouth marble mouth because the way he preached we still have this information so many years down the road so you can hear him saying the church of course it would be in Greek the church is a hospital for sinners not a museum for saints and then one person we're much more familiar with Augustine of Hippo who was a 5th century scholar father we like to say of Anglican theology he at first opposed healing he didn't like it he didn't think it had any place he thought it ended years before then he saw people actually getting healed and he was man enough to investigate and he began to practice healing ministry as a bishop and saw his people come into healing in a time of persecution slide but there was trouble on the horizon the church became formalized it actually became the official religion of the

Roman Empire and people's views of God began to be distanced they began to see God as a God of wrath who like the emperor if you don't obey he's going to do you in they believed that man's main purpose was to atone for his sins and try to escape hell there was not really a belief that God might be interested in healing anyone not on the earth then the plagues made early death an almost certain thing very few people lived to old age any hope of healing was swept away as whole villages succumbed to the black death it's something we have we cannot even conceive what they went through in in Europe during the time of the black death and so the sacrament of anointing for healing changed to what they called extreme unction anointing the head in the hands trying to get

God to forgive them so when they died they would go to heaven extreme unction had nothing to do with healing that's where it moved in such an environment something had to fill the vacuum you know what it was magic magic captured people as education waned in the dark ages and there seemed no escape we'll try anything so the church seeing the dangers of believing in magic distanced itself even more from the whole healing enterprise and you know what we still haven't come out of superstition magic we just do it a little more sophisticated in our age I won't ask if anybody has a lucky magic rabbit's foot on their key ring or do you ever walk under a ladder yeah

I do but that's bad luck if you walk under a ladder how about do you put your horseshoe up which way do you put it up you put it up this way or this way you put it up this way so the luck the good luck will fall into it I don't even want to talk about astrology psychics and even Reiki these are none of these are based on any fact whatsoever they're magic so let's move on to the next slide the Protestant Reformation Martin Luther believed in Christian healing but he was so intent on teaching people to be saved by God's grace through faith that he didn't major in Christian healing but he believed in it he prayed for people and they got healed!

on the other part of the continent John Calvin was trying to get rid of any hint of magic in the new Protestant church and so he distanced himself completely from the practice of healing prayer he shut down last rites he shut down any attempt to cajole God he decided that and this is where we first really hear this healing stopped when the last apostles died because there was no need for it anymore we had the Bible and so he didn't like healing ministry he said if anybody is healed by God that's God's business not ours he said the church was to do two things preach and teach now John Calvin is a hero I'm not trying to shoot him down in any way shape or fashion but he had a blind spot his intent was to clear away the magic but you've ever heard of throwing out the baby with the bath water

I'm afraid that's what happened and we're still living with that kind of fear in America today in a number of our denominations it goes back our friend John Calvin but God persisted as he always does the fire of healing almost died but God persisted do you know the remnant theory from the scriptures where often if you look through the Old Testament you'll see reference to the remnant every time the nation of Israel headed in a wrong direction a remnant stayed faithful that was where Elijah said I'm all alone and what did God say how many are still there I've got 7,000 who have not bowed to Baal the remnant so while it was the healing was kind of falling apart

God chose a remnant to carry on the ministry of healing have you ever heard of John and Charles Wesley healing a number of Charles Wesley's hymns if you read what he wrote healing Christian healing John did simple acts of praying for people to get healed Charles wrote hymns which accentuated healing God began to replant the seeds of healing in the Protestant church side once again the fire smoldered the age of skepticism dug its roots into the church stating that miracles or anything else that could not be explained by then modern logic could not possibly be valid that's sometimes called the age of enlightenment which had nothing to do with enlightenment the 19th century was difficult for the healing ministry as it got squeezed between what were called evangelical cessationists healing has ceased evangelical cessationists on the one hand and liberal demythologizers on the other a lot of the demythologizers became great leaders in the mainline

Protestant churches in America now you have some idea why we're in trouble healing very nearly died and once again the vacuum was filled by other than orthodox believers welcome christian science welcome sideshow preachers god's going to do his thing and if we don't honor it there it's going somewhere else a lot of people got healed in christian science some do today it's not christian healing it's been said that christian science is neither christian nor healing it's neither christian nor science excuse me it's neither christian nor science and i'm not trying to whack christian science i'm just saying the vacuum was filled and so next slide we roll into the 20th century we rode into the century on horses we rode out on rockets isn't that amazing what happened in that century in the 20th century the fire was rekindled where else but in california land of fruit and nuts god has a great sense of humor you ever heard of a street called azusa azusa street in los angeles around 110 years ago 111 years ago god did a really great thing he launched a revival a new pentecost we're going to talk about how that has affected us but it was a group of people from the wrong side of the railroad tracks who suddenly got filled with the holy spirit in that little church they started something that god used to pop us in the healing ministry an interest in healing began to show itself even in the main line churches some doctors in the episcopal church began to examine the scriptures and saw healing the order of st.

luke the beloved physician was quietly begun some priests started having quiet healing services in their churches on wednesday mornings people started getting healed and again through anointing and the laying on of hands the sodas trail was seeing massive healings sometimes manufactured falsely by preachers willing to pay a few people to get healed as examples for others elmer gantry's appeared on the scene causing main line people to shy away from the ministry but people were actually getting healed by god through it all next slide dennis bennett how many have ever heard of dennis bennett yeah he was an episcopal priest way back in the early 1960s he burst on the scene anybody ever met dennis yeah he's now gone to his reward but he touched a lot of lives he he actually brought the charismatic movement and healings into mainline religion was just amazing what he was able to do he suffered great persecution not from the unbelieving world but from the believing world he had this experience where he had he kind of messed with the assemblies of god people and he learned how to speak in tongues well he got the gift he didn't learn and so he got up in the pulpit in this really posh southern

California parish church and told him about experience during coffee hour the senior warden handed him his letter of resignation he couldn't find a job finally bishop up in the Seattle Washington area who was an old friend of his said I'm going to close this church would you close it for me and so Dennis went up there and what happened to it boom became one of the benchmark churches for growth for healing actually for the charismatic movement on the east coast we had another man who has had a good influence on us his name is Terry Fulham how many of you have met Terry Fulham yeah east coast people know him better Terry Fulham was really a music professor and he had the distinction of never attending seminary his bishop said you're going to be a priest and

Terry said I do great on the organ I do pretty good job lecturing I do bad taking care of people and so but he talked him into it and Terry Fulham took the ordination exams without ever going to seminary he aced him he was filled with the Holy Spirit God shows this man to come to this particular church because God wanted to bring the revival to the east coast well it wasn't just the episcopal church catholics got caught up in this whole thing actually before episcopalians caught it and when they get caught up in anything there are always millions of them have you ever noticed that in 1975 35,000 excited catholics and a few episcopalians met in the Jesus touchdown stadium in Notre

Dame to celebrate the work of the Holy Spirit not to be out done two years later 50,000 people met in Kansas City to celebrate the fire of the Holy Spirit massive healings took place it's estimated that there are today at least 250 million spirit filled Christians on the earth they're roaming the earth not like Satan they're roaming the earth sharing the gift of the Holy Spirit many of them are in third world countries it's been said we we don't bother with it because we can go to the doctor they can't go to a doctor so they rely on the Holy Spirit millions of them and even in my early years as an Episcopal priest I could see step by step the

Holy! Spirit invading the hearts of those who were open to him embracing the gifts of the Spirit many of us in this room are recipients of that joy we're going to have a little testimony later but how many of you have either received have been on the receiving end or the sending end of healing in somebody's life a large number that would not have happened in the 1940s or the 1950s a little bit in the 1960s God is doing something wonderful we don't know where the end of this is going to be but right now we're living in a time of the filling of the Holy Spirit okay where are we today even though the fire has waned in some earlier ministries such as

Faith Alive Marriage Encounter and Curcio and the mainline churches are flirting with 2 Timothy 4 3 and 4 you're going to find that there will be times when people will have no stomach for solid teaching but will fill up on spiritual junk food catchy opinions to tickle their fancy they'll turn their backs on the truth the fire is being rekindled and much of the rekindling today is through the ministry of healing and that healing is taking place in North American Anglicanism next slide one reason Dave and I are here right now is to teach about the ministry of healing and to practice that ministry so here are some practical aspects of healing that are going on today all around us even in our church even in our church

God wants to heal our emotions our bodies our souls and our spirits and God wants to heal our emotions he healed me of depression several years many years ago I battled I had a constant battle with depression and I would get to the point where I would be almost suicidal I would wish that I would just die and there were times when I felt like I was in a deep dark pit and the only way out of it was to die and I tried Christian counseling I tried psychological counseling I tried different forms of prayer and absolutely nothing worked the only thing

I did not try is medication then we were invited by a friend to go Dave and I were invited to go on a marriage retreat led by a wonderful clergy couple down in Destin Florida well at that time they were in Lake Martin Alabama they're in Destin now their names are Forrest and Nancy Mobley they were doing marriage retreats mostly for clergy couples and we went on this retreat and we spent eight days with them during the mornings we would have teachings on different aspects of marriage in the afternoons they would pray for us now as a preliminary to this retreat they sent us a ream of paperwork that we had to fill out and questions and questions and questions and one of the things that

I had written down on my sheet one of the answers I had given was that I was hearing voices in my head that was saying why don't you just leave Dave and Sarah would be much better off without you and and then I would try to combat that by saying that's not true that's really you know but it was kind of a half baked statement on my part and we went to this retreat and Forrest and Nancy spent a whole afternoon with Dave and I praying for me and during the prayer I received a deliverance and

I received a healing and it was one of the most special things I have ever experienced in my life I was so full of peace and joy after receiving that healing that and an interesting thing another interesting thing was that my chest hurt for two weeks I felt like I had had open heart surgery and actually I had it was just that God had done the open heart surgery on me but I haven't been depressed ever since then the depression is totally gone and that was almost 20 years ago God does heal emotions all of us have to deal with emotional trauma and as

Mary Ellen did we look all over to try to get it fixed sometimes we just need to sit down with some trusted folks and let them pray that God will do open heart surgery on us I know that depression is one of the benchmark attacks Satan brings on women and it just staggers me what that can do to people and God doesn't want us to be stuck there so we're praying that in this next month that God will do some open heart surgery and bring people out free from emotional trauma God also can heal our bodies so I'll give you a testimony I had arthritis we were living in Alabama and I got an assignment to

North Dakota and I thought this is going to kill my hands I don't want to go we were in a church where healing ministry was very active and the way it would work in that particular church is there were a lot of rooms and after church you could go into a designated healing room and someone would pray for you and so I decided I need to get prayed for I don't know if it will work I have been teaching healing for years but get down to your own personal stuff I'll go and so a great guy was there he was an air force tech sergeant Greg and so I went to Greg in the healing room and I told him what was going on and he just said well hold out your hands hey Lord he needs these hands to get better would you do it in Jesus name and guess what nothing happened they still hurt another another teaching is that

God sometimes takes a little while for it to get done in about a week I had no pain I have had no pain that was in 1990 isn't that amazing God can do this even arthritis God can work in our hearts and our minds so that our bodies get well God wants to heal us spiritually and free us from demonic oppression Dave and I were involved in a what we discovered was an exorcism we did not know it was going to be that way going into it but a friend of ours very dear friend of ours was actually diagnosed with heart cancer and she was under special treatment and special watches because she was one of the only people alive diagnosed with heart cancer they usually only find heart cancer in an autopsy this lady was still alive and she would come down to the national institutes of health to do so that they could do studies on her and she and her husband asked us to come over to their house they were involved in a bible study with us and she and her husband asked us to come over to her house and pray for her so we went over there that evening it was dave and i and another couple and then um this the the lady and her husband and we started praying for her and we didn't we did not realize that this was going to become an exorcism but suddenly her voice changed her whole countenance changed and as we were praying for her we we realized we've got to pray against the spirit this isn't this is an evil presence and we've got to start praying against it so we started praying against it and eventually she rested in the spirit and when she came out of it and talked was talking to us she said it's gone and she she told us she knew when that spirit entered her and was but we were able to be instruments of the holy spirit to free her of this and she was able to she did eventually die but she died a true

Christian believer she would tell people when they told her that she was terminal she would say I'm not terminal I am eternal that was great and you know there are people that the old quote people think there's a devil behind every bush well that's only because it's true but God is stronger than any devil and it it's just a fact that demonic activity is present trying to oppress us to get away in and we're going to talk about that other weeks how you get free from that which wants to hold you back that which wants to hold you down that which wants to hold you up that way okay so we're going to talk about!

And finally God wants to heal us relationally the yeah I'm sorry I didn't say slide but I made it look like I said finally okay relationally another thing that happened women came up for healing and in the process of the conversation she now she lives on another planet you don't know her you'll never know her so I'm not don't look at each other and say I wonder if it's you it's not you she refused to forgive her father he had done terrible things to her she was miserable as she explained what her father had done to her I just told her the truth I'd be mad too if he had done that to me but somehow you've got to move into the forgiveness business and she said two things he's dead and even if he was alive

I would never forgive him do you know what happens eventually to a person who refuses to forgive the root of bitterness sets in she was in torment so I didn't know what to do and I did there's a guy named Mike Flynn who teaches healing today he calls it the eight word prayer Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus help me so I gave a version of that silently and God said you be her father so I said I don't I'm not much for role play but would you I'm not going to do anything bad to you but would you just let me be your father for a minute!

talk with you and she kind of looked at me strange and said yeah okay and so what I did was apologized to her and told her how much I loved her and that I'm just I was sorry that I did this to her and I would I just would love it if she could forgive me as the tears ran down her eyes she said I love you dad it was broken she forgave her father her life turned around isn't that what God wants to do relationally Adam and Eve had the perfect marriage until then they had a rotten marriage they were blaming each other for stuff I don't know if you if you're married today I know you never blame your spouse for anything but it's a pit we fall into and if you're not married you find somebody else to blame it goes back to

Adam and Eve God wants to heal relationships so that relationships begin become lifting up rather than tearing down God can do it in your life he's doing it in ours okay now we get to the last so we were sent to pray for your healing and we would like to pray for you we want to be done here officially in the next 15 minutes so that people can go home before it's dark but what we're going to do is we're going to mind pilot big tall guy of course to me everybody's tall kind of a tall guy well mannered we met him last year and he said would you pray for me the doctor said

I've got some kind of a little node on my lungs so we prayed that God would remove the node he felt worse and worse and worse and worse and finally he went to the doctor again and the doctor said you need bypass surgery and Bill said what about the node doctor said listen while I'm in there I'll check for it but what I need to do is do bypass surgery and so last month he had a quadruple bypass in in the process the doctor looked around for the node and he called yesterday and said the doctor told me not to worry about any dad blame node because it's not if it's there I can't find it you are healed and Bill said that was not the big thing the big thing was going into surgery for the quadruple bypass and the node completely at peace putting his life totally in

God's hands and he said if I wake up in heaven what a wonderful gift that's going to be I'd rather wake up on earth but I can take either one that's kind of where it is for us so that's that's Bill broach's testimony he asked if I would give that to you I would anyone else like to share a testimony of a healing in your life would you I can't hear yes Paul praise god so you were working in a factory you had back pain how did you pray for healing so you went into in church you went to the front and asked for prayer and a team prayed for you your back was healed stand up twist around praise god thank you