Living the Church Life Part1

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[0:40] I'll be talking about living the church life. Living the church life. When someone says, I attend church, there's a difference between a churchgoer and a Christian.

[1:03] Most of us here, before we became born again, some of us, I believe a large number of us, before we became born again, we were going to church. And you were not anything different from any other person practicing any form of religion, Buddhism, Islam, Shintoism, Judaism, and the rest.

[1:32] We are all the same. Okay, because we are trying to reach, religion is a way, man's way to try and reach out to God. And so most of us were in church.

[1:45] How many of you were in church before you became born again? So you can be in church. A churchgoer does not make you a Christian, but a Christian makes you a churchgoer.

[1:57] So if you tell me you are not a Christian, but you don't go to church, it's another way of saying that you are just religious. You are not a Christian. Because you know what?

[2:08] When you become a Christian, there is something that David said, I was glad when they said, let us go to the house of the Lord. There is something about God's house that attracts you.

[2:19] Any time people start backsliding, one of the things you begin to see is their joy, their determination, desire to be in God's presence begin to wane.

[2:30] It's a sign of, clear sign of backsliding. It doesn't matter how you put it. It's just a sign of. If someone is in a relationship with the wife or the husband or intended and they've been in a relationship, let's say, three years.

[2:44] But first year, the guy was always bringing car, I mean, even if his car breaks down, hire another car, took her and pick her to cinema and all that. Now second year, third year, he forgets that it's even her birthday.

[2:58] And then he claims, I love you just the way I loved you from the beginning. I mean, I know you respect me, you like being with me, but that passion you had for me is different.

[3:08] Because that passion, when you see a ditch, when we walk here, you see maybe a paddle, you tell me, oh darling, can I carry you on my back? Now when he sees, hey, hey, hey, watch out, watch out, watch out.

[3:21] He can't tell me it's the same. Can't you see? Don't you have eyes? You can't tell me it's the same. All right. Your intentions may look the same, but your feelings are different. So when people begin to backslide, they begin to show in their, listen to this.

[3:36] This is what I discovered. Every genuine Christian, one, when you become a Christian, there's something about God's word. You get attracted to God's word. You just tend to like it.

[3:49] You like it. I don't know how many of you have felt this before. Sometimes you're reading a Bible and you feel, whoa. You feel something sweet inside. You can't explain it. Right.

[4:00] Secondly, when you become a genuine believer, you have a desire for God's word. And your desire for fellowship increases. Sometimes you can't wait for you to be where the Christians gather. Sometimes you are way out of church or something and you miss it.

[4:14] When you are absent from church, you feel so uncomfortable. Am I talking to someone? It's a sign that you're actually spiritually alive. So, and then thirdly, prayer.

[4:29] Prayer doesn't become as daunting. It doesn't become a chore. It just becomes a delight. So when people begin to backslide, it doesn't show in the things they think or the things they do.

[4:46] But it begins to show in what they are passionate about. These three things. Fellowship, the word, and prayer. And then possibly can add the fourth one.

[4:58] They really are not bold enough to tell someone about their Christian stance. It's a clear sign of backsliding. If someone is backsliding. No, see, most of the time when we hear the word backsliding, we think that someone has just now begun.

[5:10] Start drinking alcohol. Going around sleeping with prostitutes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not about backsliding. That one is repubate. You are gone.

[5:21] You are gone. Beating your wife. Don't sleep at home. Roaming everywhere. Partying. You are once in church. You are gone. But then backsliding is, most of us in church have backslided.

[5:37] Comfortably. And we have to, we polish it with wise words like wisdom, you know. Backsliding. Just that you are trying. You are trying. That's why when you come to church, I mean, sitting in front is a problem for you.

[5:50] You always want to hide at the back end. Always in a hurry. You got to go. You know what I'm talking about. I'm not saying anyone who sits at the back has backslidden. But it's true. Backbenchers tell a lot.

[6:02] Being a naturally, if you are naturally predisposed towards backbenching, it tells a lot. Now, pastor, what do you mean? Don't, any question, just ask. Okay. I will explain.

[6:13] Because we are talking about the church life. So there's a difference between being a Christian and a churchgoer. Now, watch this. What is church life? Church life is not like just one people go and go to church.

[6:25] Church life is actually, when you become born again, watch this very carefully. When you become born again, you become, Bible says that we being many are one member. Sorry. We being one are many members.

[6:38] So we are one body. But many members. Romans chapter 12. And so we are, sorry, I think it's first Corinthians. No, it's Romans chapter 12. So we have many, just like you are, one body.

[6:52] But how many members do you have? How many? Many members. Name one of your members, body members. Hands, hair, shoulder, knees, and toes.

[7:04] My hair, my shoulder, my knees, and toes. They all, so you have many, many members. In the same way, watch this. When you become born again, in the first Corinthians, Bible says that we were all, or second Corinthians, we were all baptized by one spirit into one body.

[7:23] Say body. What body is he talking about? The body of Christ. What's the body of Christ? The church. Thank you. So the church is the body of Christ. So as soon as you become born again, you are naturally, by default, a member of the body of Christ, which is you are a member of the church.

[7:40] Christ said, I'm coming back for the church. You remember Ephesians chapter 5? It says that husband, love your wife just as Christ loved the church. Not talking about, that church is talking about the body of Christ, universal church.

[7:54] So as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it. All right. And so when we talk about the church, it's different from a local church.

[8:05] We are a local church. We are all part of the church. But you can't be part of the, okay. Every part, every member of your body is part of an organ.

[8:18] Every member of your body is part of an organ. So then, what I'm trying to say is that you can't have a member of your body that is not part of any organ.

[8:33] Or when we talk about the senses, the five senses, every part of your body plays a role. Some way. Do you understand what I'm saying?

[8:44] You know that your ears cannot smell? Your ears can't smell. But your ears can't hear. So it's part of that sense, the auditory sense.

[8:57] But it's not part of the olfactory sense. Smelling. All right. So then, if you are part of the member of, if you are a member of the body of Christ, that means that you must be part of one of the organs of the body of Christ, which is a local church.

[9:12] So you must be somewhere. Where? Where do you belong? Who knows you? You know there are thousands and millions of Christians you don't know. You don't even know they exist.

[9:24] Some of them, you see them in town. They are part of the body of Christ. But I didn't know. So you begin to have interactions with them. All right. But then, if you are part of a local church, we will know you. So every Christian must belong to a local church.

[9:38] That's where it starts from. But when we talk about the church life, it's not talking about just the local church activities. The church life is actually the life of Christ that plays out in the body of Christ in us.

[9:52] In other words. So the life of Christ in you, how you live that life of Christ to be part of the whole body of Christ, to contribute and to glorify God and the purpose of the body of Christ, that life in you that you live, that's what we call the church life.

[10:05] And the church life is not an individual life. What do I mean? You can't be just by yourself and living it. The church life is a corporate life.

[10:17] In other words, if I decide to chop my toe, guess what? Possibly my eyes would be crying. I didn't do anything to the eyes.

[10:28] No, it's the toe. But the eyes. How many of you have been so badly wounded? Let's say your little toe. And you lose appetite. So Bible says that anything that happens to the leg affects the whole body.

[10:42] Anything that happens to the eye affects the whole body. Why? Because the eye is not stand alone. The eye cannot operate just by itself. And then like when you walk the cartoon, you see the eye going around.

[10:55] No, no, no. The eye only functions as a part of a body. I can take off this my jacket comfortably and go anywhere without having an impact on me.

[11:05] But if I try to take off my hand. Because the hand is part of the body. And so the aesthetics are not necessary. The cosmetics are not necessary. But the actual body is made up of the body parts.

[11:20] Your members. And now there is no body member that is a stand alone or that is in isolation because it is a corporate body. Does that make sense?

[11:31] Why are you saying all these things? That means that you need me and I need you. That sister sitting beside you. That brother sitting beside you. You need her and she needs you.

[11:43] You need him and he needs you. That is called the church. And one of the, I remember word of truth. One day I was teaching. I said that the church is Christ in you.

[11:55] Christ in me. Christ in her. Christ in him. Christ in them. That is a church. So the church has no got to do. You are turned Methodist, Catholic, this.

[12:07] No, no, no. That has no got to do with the church. That is just denominations. And all those things are human boundaries and human barriers. But in the spirit, there are no boundaries. There are no barriers.

[12:18] Christ in you. Christ in me. Christ in him. Christ in her. That is what? The church. And so when we talk about the church life, it's talking about the Christ in you and the Christ in me living together for the building of the whole body of Christ and the accomplishing of God's own eternal purpose.

[12:38] Say amen. Amen. God is so far. Any question? Hallelujah. Hallelujah. So say the church life. The church life. You will say it.

[12:48] The church life. A friend of mine asked me about, I remember, I think about eight to ten years ago. Pastor, you keep talking about, I think about ten years or more ago.

[12:59] I keep talking about church life. Church life. What do you mean by church life? A pastor. He said, what do you mean by the church life? See, when we talk about church life, as I said earlier on, it has to do with Christ living in all of us.

[13:14] And we're making sure that the living of Christ, the life of Christ is clearly demonstrated, actualized in our lives. Let us not reduce church to receiving miracles.

[13:24] All right. Permit me to go back a little bit to talk about the two major aspects of the church life.

[13:35] Who is a member of the church? Who? Okay. We are. So who are the we? What makes you and what the other person?

[13:47] What differentiates, what qualifies a person to become a member of the church? Faith in Christ Jesus. Okay. That's as simple as that. That's that. I mean, the best you can ever think of. Faith.

[13:57] We are saved by grace through what? Faith. And the Bible talks about how we are justified by faith. We are in, based on faith. Okay. In Christ. No faith anywhere. Faith in Christ.

[14:08] Okay. So what makes a person a member of the body of Christ is your faith in Christ. As we all may know, it's not what you do that makes you a member of the body of Christ, but it's who you are in Christ or your faith in Christ.

[14:27] Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8. Let's all read it together. Let's go. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And that not of yourself. It's the gift of God.

[14:38] Okay. So that one, not of yourself, is the gift of God. Look at verse 9. Did you see that? Let's read verse 9 together. That's a serious one.

[14:53] It's a lot of works. Not of what you do. Lest anyone should also. Watch this. By grace are you saved. Not of works. Not of. You are not saved based on what you do or what you've done or what you did or what you've got to do.

[15:06] You are saved based on grace. By grace are you saved. And how does he apply to us? Through faith. So your faith in Christ is just what makes us saved. So what makes you a Christian? Now when we talk about that saved there, we're talking about what makes you a Christian.

[15:19] So the fact that your mama used to go to church does not make you a Christian. The fact that your daddy used to go to church does not make you a Christian. Let's get it. The fact that you were a Christian as a child does not make you a Christian.

[15:32] Christian. Like Christian. Being Christian. There's nothing like that. You only become a Christian based on your faith. All right. And so what makes you a Christian is your faith in Christ.

[15:45] Not of works. Less. Anyone can say, okay, yeah, I did it. I did it. Not of works. No one can boast because you didn't do anything. No one did anything. All of us came in free. We all came in free.

[15:59] So you can't come in. And then I came into church. I became born again. And I used to know this lady. She was very wild. Like an armed robber in town. And I used to be the bank man.

[16:10] I used to rent the cars to her. But he was top criminal. She was top criminal. And I became born again. And guess what? I see her too in church. I say, huh. Then I begin to think, at least I'm a better Christian than her.

[16:24] Because that's not God to do with what I did. And that's not God to do with what he did. All of us are on the same platform. Clap for Jesus. Clap for Jesus. Amen.

[16:37] So now, going back to what I'm saying. We have two aspects. First one you should understand is called justification. Now, justification, you don't have to do anything.

[16:49] But we have sanctification. Which means what you do. Okay, let me put it this way. So I explained this one over the TV broadcast some time ago. Ephesians and Romans and most of Paul's letters are divided into two major sections.

[17:05] The first section, Ephesians. So Ephesians, let me use Ephesians. Ephesians chapter, Ephesians is six chapters. The first three chapters has to do with justification.

[17:17] Sanctification. Sanctification. And the last three has to do with sanctification. Okay. What do I mean by sanctification? Sanctification. The first, watch this. The first three chapters has to do with what we are saved by.

[17:32] The second three chapters has to do with what we have been saved for. Oh, is he coming home now? Why am I saved? Okay, I've arrived. So what?

[17:42] What am I supposed to do? First three chapters have to do with God saving us. Why he saved us. So remember, I think there's a place where it talks about work out your salvation.

[17:56] So the first three chapters, watch this, has to do with salvation worked in. So God worked salvation into your life. You didn't have to do anything. But the second three, the second chapter, the second chapter, the last three chapters has to do with salvation worked out.

[18:19] So if something has been worked inside you, you have to work it out. Not like mass calculate, but exercise, thank you very much, exercise it out.

[18:31] All right. And so the first salvation worked in is called justification. Salvation worked out is called what? Sanctification. And the two always go together.

[18:48] Justification and sanctification go together. And in that order, they never go the other way. Every religion puts sanctification before justification. What does that mean?

[18:59] You have to do something so that you can be accepted by God. No. So you have to do something, sanctification, so that you can be accepted by God. Justification. You have to do something so that you can be in. No. Christianity said that you are in and empowered to do something.

[19:13] It's always the other way around. In first, to do. In first, and then once you are in, you receive the strength and the empowerment. Like Ephesians chapter 3, verse 16, there it talks about that you will be strengthened with might by his spirit in your inner man.

[19:30] So the strength comes from the inner man through the spirit of God in you. So don't think you can do it by yourself. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

[19:43] The Bible says that Christ in you, the hope of glory. So it's the Christ in you that makes the difference. Christ in you that makes the difference. Christ in you that makes the difference.

[19:54] That's where it starts from. But the problem is, so when we come to church, we are talking about miracles. We are talking about breakthroughs. We are talking about in the name of Jesus. I see a testimony coming.

[20:05] All those things are said based on the Christ in you. So then if you don't have a Christ in you, it's really going to give us a major problem.

[20:18] We can work the thing into you. Because you are actually not part of us. Or not part of... It's for household people.

[20:30] Okay, so it's for household... It's just like you are a male. And you are going to the midwives. For them to help you become like your pregnant wife.

[20:42] Or you're going to see the gynecologist, a man. What for? I have a problem with gynecology. What for? What for? You must be born a woman in order to begin to enjoy these privileges that women have.

[21:00] Women can say amen. Amen. It's a blessing to be a woman. Is it not true? Yes. Yeah. Life is very rough without women.

[21:13] So the point is that justification goes before sanctification. Sanctification. I'm going somewhere. So when you read Ephesians, first three chapters is justification. Second three chapters is sanctification.

[21:23] What's sanctification? Do you know how Ephesians chapter 3 verse 1 starts? Sorry, chapter 4. The last three. Chapter 4 verse 1 starts. It's very interesting. Ephesians chapter 4 verse 1 says, I therefore beseech you to walk.

[21:36] To do what? To do what? To do what? No, no. To walk. To do what? To do what? What does that mean? Do something. Do something.

[21:48] But when you read Ephesians chapter 1 from verse 3, verse 3 is a very funny one. I love it so much. Ephesians chapter 1 verse 3. It says, blessed be God. Who has blessed us with all spiritual blessings? Before he asked you to walk, you've already been blessed.

[22:01] Say, I'm blessed. Say, I'm blessed. So from that standpoint of the blessed person, you begin to walk. Walk the walk and talk the talk. Right. So the point here is that Christianity is not only what he has made in me, but also how I am living it out.

[22:18] That's the church life. And so much of your life is based on the church life. How you live this thing out. But you know what? We have made it the other way around.

[22:29] Much of our modern day Christians, much of our Christian life is what we are still receiving. God, what you are doing for me? What miracle you are doing for me? Or what's the next breakthrough?

[22:40] What's the next? That's how much of our Christian life has to do with that. And so that's why I can, on one hand, be praying that God bless me, bless me, bless me. And on the other hand, I say, you, I don't like you.

[22:51] You are a Christian, but I don't like you. I can't talk to you. I can't forgive you. Get out of my face. And feel very comfortable and keep the two together. Think about it.

[23:03] That's how come a husband and wife can fight both Christians and can't stand each other. And a Christian woman can be abusing and beating the husband.

[23:15] He said, if you're a man, come. Stupid man like you. When we are talking about men, you, shame. Then spit on his face. And the man said, hey, is that Amida? Am I the one you're talking to? Do you know who you are?

[23:26] You are a foolish woman, a prostitute. And Christians. And when they finish, I'm going to pray. I just finished praying. I want to. You let me finish praying. I'll come and deal with you.

[23:42] You understand what I'm saying? When we are talking about Christianity, the two should go together. Don't take one and leave the other one. Religion takes the works bits.

[23:53] So, the work. Oh, you have to do this so that God can let you in. You have to do this. So, they are also always concerned that if they see Christians, you are not doing what you are supposed to do, they begin to think, no, you are not right.

[24:05] You are evil. Get out of here. You are evil. They even feel you don't have to come to church because you are too evil. The things you have been doing, you can't come to church. The skirt you have been wearing is too short. You can't come to church.

[24:17] I'm not going to say go and wear anything. If you are also born again properly, you will be concerned about the way you present your bodies. He said, present your bodies. Hallelujah. That's a living sacrifice. Present your bodies. And the members.

[24:28] Don't present your members as instruments of unrighteousness. Leave the people alone. Stop troubling. We know you have a chest. Cover it up. Hallelujah.

[24:41] Hallelujah. Any questions so far? Hallelujah. Hallelujah. He he he he he he he he he. Oh, hallelujah.

[24:53] And so, people, when religion, watch this, that's why people in the name of some God who can kill other people because you are not part of this religion.

[25:05] Religion can be very devastating. Religion creates enemies. I know some people who actually don't want to go around church because some born again Christian sister of theirs was always attacking them and are hateful in the house.

[25:20] The most hateful person in the house. And then you hear speaking in tongues. Shut up. Disturbing everybody. If you go and tell, please. We want to sleep. Can you come? You want to tell?

[25:31] You want to? Hey, the devil is here. Hey, the devil is here. And so, and so you find certain people who say that, I don't even want to go close to church or because mom, my mom was, my dad was always dragging us to church but when we finished church, they are gossiping about church members from their car, from church to their house.

[25:52] They will gossip and gossip and gossip. No wonder your son, your daughter grew up and he didn't want to go to church because what, the thing you have been preaching, they realize that you are different. You don't actually believe it.

[26:03] So, people like that are religious. Religious people tend to put people who are looking for God off because religious people are not merciful.

[26:19] You have to play according to the books. Other than that, and so, some people see other Christians and they think, hey, I can't meet up to this standard. I can't match up to this standard.

[26:30] So, they see some Christians and the way they, when we're in secondary school, there are some guys called krife guys. They are kind of, some of them are good like myself.

[26:41] We were kind of good but there are other ones who are like the holy adal. The holy adal. And so, sometimes, we become overbearingly religious and overstretch it.

[26:54] Godliness is sweet. Godliness is attractive. Now, coming back to the point I'm making. So, when you are born again, the same thing happened in Romans. Romans, from Romans chapter 1, he was talking about we are justified.

[27:07] He was talking about how all have sinned, but we are not by works. It's Christ and everything. Romans chapter 8, one of the most colorful chapters in the Bible talking about now there is down there for no condemnation condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus and went on.

[27:23] If God be for us, who can be against us and went on to talk about how in Christ Jesus we are more than conquerors for nothing can separate us from the love of Christ, which is in, the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus.

[27:35] Romans, say Romans. He kept talking from chapter 1 to chapter 11, then chapter 12. He says, I beseech you therefore. Romans chapter 12, verse 1. I beg you therefore, beloved.

[27:47] I beg you. Beseech means I implore. I entreat you. I beseech you therefore. What's the meaning of the therefore? On the basis of the things that we have in Christ, on the grounds of that, I beseech you by the mercies of God that you do what?

[28:01] Present. Present. Now he has brought, he has started bringing responsibility in. All along, never mentioned responsibility. All along told us our rights, our rights, our enjoyment, who we are in Christ, all that.

[28:15] Then chapter 12, he said, please, based on who you are, present your body. Do something. Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.

[28:26] Then the next one, he went on to verse 2, went on. So first one, present what? Number 2, present, number 2, he went on to say that, transform, be transformed by the renew of your mind.

[28:39] That's your soul. So, body, soul, and then you find out in the, as we do the studies, somewhere, where he brought the spirit in. Very interesting.

[28:50] But all, your own responsibility. See what he says you do. You should, you should do something, so your mind will change. When it comes to your body, he said, present your body as a living sacrifice.

[29:00] So that's responsibility. He didn't say, let God present it for you. He said, you have to present it. All right. So, the responsibility of the Christian life, the responsibility of the church life, how to live this church life, it's necessary.

[29:17] Other than that, guess what? Oh, this is a very fearful thing to say. Other than that, guess what? You may get all the kind of blessings, some, most of them on earth, but when you go to heaven, you realize that you have lived a cheap life, a cheap life, and there's not much for you.

[29:31] The church life. The church life is beautiful. Now, the church life, as I said earlier on, actually, when you look at Ephesians, in Romans 2, it did the same thing, but when you look at Ephesians, it talks about, then when it started talking about what we have to do, it starts by Ephesians chapter 3, sorry, chapter 4, it starts by talking about our relationship with one another in Christ.

[29:54] Okay? Our relationship with one another, no, sorry, very interesting, some technical bits that you find in the Bible. In Ephesians chapter 1, from 1 to 3, it talks about who we are in Christ.

[30:08] From chapter 4 to chapter 6, it talks about relationship in the Lord. In the Lord. So, he is the one who governs the way we relate to other people. That's when he spoke about, we should be, we should endeavor to keep the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace.

[30:23] Ephesians chapter 3, verse 4, keep the unity of the spirit as one God, one, then he went on to talk about how, so our relationship, the way we relate in the church, the way we behave in the church.

[30:34] Then after that, he goes, Ephesians chapter 4, from verse 1, all the way down, that's when he talks about, we have the apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, then he says that, he's given to us for the perfecting of the body of Christ, for the saints, and all that, and he spoke about, in verse 16, you not being tossed through and fro, by every wind of doctrine, where he says that, we'll be able to comprehend with the same, no, not comprehend with the same, assisting, yes, he says that, from whom the whole body, watch this, this is a very interesting point, from whom the whole body, joint and knits together, by what every joint supplies, when I was doing the teaching on that, I got something, first of all, knits, what does it mean, what does it mean to knit something?

[31:20] To join, but here's the word, joint and knits, interwoven, to knit, it means, that's a very good, intertwined, interwoven, and when you come to, in carpentry, to knit something together, you have to make sure, that you chop some things off, drill some things out, and put, when you go to Ikea, and you buy the flat pack, they've, to have to put it together, but they have, prefabricated it, so that you can easily knit them together, and join them together, because some things have been chopped out, so you can't live the church life, if you don't chop some things out of your life, you always have problems with other Christians, because people, are people, having to discover that people are funny, having to notice that everybody is, everybody is funny apart from you, didn't you realize that, you just really don't like the way, and then the friends you choose, you select, are those who are ugly, they are not, they are similar to you, but those you don't like as friends,

[32:24] I've also got, they are very good friends, who also think that you have a problem, and now we all gather in the church, as one body, if you don't do some, chopping off, so we can, we can be knit together, and guess what, it says that, the whole body, joined and knit together, by what every joint supplies, every joint, by what, what, everyone supplies, everyone supplies, so me on my own, I can't supply anything, building the body of Christ, my koinonia, the joint, is what supplies the building, for the, did you get that, by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working, by which every path does, is shared, everyone has got, everyone, it's your joint, so you can't say, I can't stand that sister, if you say, you can't stand that sister, two things, one of two things, you either are not, born again, or if you are born again, you have a spiritual problem, of understanding, yeah, particularly, you are a babe, it's the children, who say,

[33:35] I can't stand, it's my toy, it's my toy, it's my toy, it's my toy, it's my toy, so the Christian life now, I'm going to focus, on living, the church life, living the church life, means that, you have to suffer some stuff, when I say suffer, not somebody's killing you, but swallow some pride, deal with something, just to accommodate somebody, for the building, of the body of Christ, so Romans, say Romans, say Romans, so after he spoke, about all that Christ, has done for us, all that God, has worked into us, then Romans chapter, 12, he begins to, throw the ball, in our courts, telling us that, you have to be responsible, for how you live your life, you have to be responsible, for the building up, of the body, and the establishment, of the body, then he went on, I verse 9, that's where the text is all, so all this thing, I've said is introduction, I'm one of the pastors, with the longest introductions, did you see that, let's all read it together, louder, oh,

[34:41] I can't hear you, one more time, louder, for the last time, now, but before then, I discovered some, in chapter 13, verse 8, that, look at what, chapter 13, verse 8 says, Romans chapter 13, verse 8, did you see that, so credit card, he said, any credit card, he should have, he should rather be, the credit card, of loving someone, say, oh, oh, no one, no, no one, anything, except to love, see, see one another there, one another, you, Bible says that, to love people, you don't have a choice, as a Christian, unless you are not one of us, I'm not talking about, Carri's church, I'm talking about, Christian life, which many people, have, have lost sight of, they are in church, and they are trying, they are, all their focus is, how people see them, they are dressing, the way they look, how nice they look, and the, the car they are driving, the house they, they live in, the kind of job, so someone comes, can you imagine, someone comes to church, and brings all that, with him to church, and when you are, you are treating, you say, no, these are not my kind of people, it's not my class,

[35:59] I only deal with this kind of people, I don't need to, this one, we will find out right now, so people bring that in, you are, once we come to church, we are all of the same class, same class, there are only two classes of people, on earth, so long as God is concerned, the Gentiles, and then we, the spiritual Jews, the, the, the, the children of God, and the children of the devil, now, now, I didn't say it, if you are not a child of God, you are by default, a child of wrath, you belong in the devil's camp, that's what the Bible teaches, now, we don't need to go around telling them, they know it, they will find, if they don't even know, they will find out, but what we have to do, is to live the children, the child, the church life, so that they begin to see, that we have something, they think they want, if you have the life of God in you, Zoe, is the highest, and the greatest thing, anyone can have, in this country, to be a royal, is bigger than, being a child of a politician, or be a politician, or a superstar, so it's not so much, as to what we are getting, but the kind of life, we have been born into, and so we have to, accommodate one another, now,

[37:18] Romans chapter 13, verse 8, says that, oh no one, nothing, except, to love one another, so in other words, loving someone, you are not doing, a person a favor, you are not doing, a trying for a, you don't know, okay you let me try, on him, no, he said you owe, if you are a Christian, then you owe me love, even if I go and gossip about you, and I don't like you, and I'm not, I'm a backsliding Christian, a troublesome Christian, you owe me love, love, it's mine, it's not yours, it's mine, how can you owe something, something that you own, you can owe, when you own it, okay, so if, he said you owe me love, that means that, that love, you have love, that you are supposed to extend, towards me, that is my right in Christ, it's mine, tell someone, you owe me love, all right, let's put it this way, no, all right, it's okay, it's okay, hello, let's put it on, ah, hey, hey, someone, someone is proposing already, you know, as soon as I said that, someone talked,

[38:35] I wish I was sitting here, I should have sat here, so I will say, I will say to that brother, you owe me love, tell someone, I owe you love, I owe you love, I owe you love, but then, I wanted to, I have to see this, so it would lead, into the next thing, I was about to say, in Romans, chapter 12, verse 9, it said, the love you owe me, let love be without dissimulation, let it be without hypocrisy, don't pretend that, don't behave like you love me, but you know you can't stand me, anupokritos, is the Greek word, anupokritos, can treat it, anupokritos, let your love be without, anupokritos, dissimulation, fake, like someone wearing the mask, so I see Pastor Charles, hello, that's what they did to Jesus, they betrayed him with a kiss, that kiss, was a sign of affirmation, but it was fake, it wasn't genuine, so, it's like you pull a wool, over someone's eyes, okay,

[39:49] I'm making you, I'm deceiving you, to think that, as for you, me and you are like this, oh we are, oh my sister, come, let me give you a lift, let me give you a ride, and say okay, wait for me, I'm coming, I'll pack, I'll just pack, and come, quickly come, by the time you come, you've gone, oh I forgot you were coming, well you knew exactly, you see, you're trying to show that I love, but you know you are lying, this is said as a Christian, let the love, be without hypocrisy, dissimulation, before I move on from there, Melissa Jones, you had a question, I'm not sure, I heard you right, but you mentioned, oh I'm using the microphone, you mentioned, you mentioned, there's three, two, two people, the Bible talks about, which was born again, and the non-believers, but I thought, there were three, with the Jews, the Israelites, because in Revelation, it does talk about, the Jews, that's a good question, and then the church, and then, all right, there are not three, it's two, okay, the Jews, when we talk about, earthly terms, they are the seed of Abraham, physically, the Bible talks about, how we all are, the sons of Abraham, those who believe, right, when Jesus comes, he's not coming for,

[40:58] Jew, or Gentile, or unbelief, he's coming for, the church, so the bride of Christ, and the rest are not, so so long as, Christ is concerned, it's only, there are only two people, on earth, his wife, see it's okay, to die for a woman, yeah, Christ died, he came, he wanted a wife, he came to die, and you want a woman, you don't want to die, the women say, I want someone, always work, you don't want to work, can I move on from there, so when we talk about, the Jews, the Jews, in Revelation, the Jews, when we talk about the Jews, the Jews in Christ, not all Jews, per se, not all Jews, they have to, read Romans, Romans talks about, they have, because of their disobedience, God has not given up on them, but actually, God's way of dealing with people, is coming for, watch this, heaven belongs to, the regenerated, people who are spiritually alive, and how do you become spiritually alive, only in Christ, so Christ just came to give life, so when you receive life, you come in, at least that's, as simple as I can put it, in fact, let me put it simple, in Revelation it said, and the book was open, the grave, then, anyone whose name, was not found written, in the Lamb's book of life, was thrown into the lake of fire,

[42:26] Revelation chapter 22, I think so, and then Revelation chapter 12, one of them, anyone whose name, anyone means anyone, whose name was not written, in the book of life, was thrown into the lake of fire, so, those who, see, what's the book of life, the book of those, it's like, registry, birth, all those who are born, and are born in UK, like, if you're born, if you say, you are born in UK, somewhere, it must be one of the hospitals, somewhere, there must be a record, so, before I bring your question, if you have to love, the same way, as the Christians, also other people, who don't believe in God, and who believe, in other religions, and even when, there are sometimes, like, talking rubbish, about other religions, and things like that, I try, so are you saying, that you have to love, all people the same, okay, that's a very good question, or if Christians more, sorry, or if we should love, like Christians more, and other, we should love Christians more, other a little bit less, that's a very good question,

[43:28] I like that, that's a very interesting question, but I will answer it, in Galatians chapter, six, let's look at, I think that will help us, let's clap for her, for that question, and then minister to, in Galatians chapter, six, verse, nine, and ten, all right, it says, let us not be, weary well doing, but for induces, and we'll reap, if we fail not, verse ten, okay, all right, that's the one, I'm looking for, let's read it together, let's go, let's go, especially, those who are, the household of faith, you know what, the household of faith means, if this brother, is an unbeliever, and this brother, is a believer, and I have one pound, and both of them, need one pound, each, to cross, the ferry, and they are all, going for job interviews,

[44:32] I have to do good, to one of them, first of all, I go, I start with the believer, especially, those who are, the household of faith, because we are family, it doesn't mean, I'm discriminating, against someone, my responsibility, is towards my brother, first, and when it comes to love, he who knows God, loves, so we love all people, but we have, I think it's there, when we read Romans, we have a particular, kind of love, and responsibility, towards one another, is the word, one another, when you see one another, it's talking about, one of us, right, we, God so loved, that when we care about humanity, we care about people, human beings deserve, to be loved, and cared for, we can do things for them, we can help them, but that's, that's not the same, as when you, you have a, a particular love, greater concern, and care, a natural responsibility, for a believer, right, so we, it does not mean, that we don't love other people, we love everybody, because, to be a Christian, means to be a man, or a woman of love, it's just, it's just, you know, how can God dwell in you, and you can't stand people, how can God dwell in you, and you be hateful, right, but then, this Romans chapter 12, has to, is starting with the church life, okay, so we have a unique responsibility, because guess what, the closer you come to be, you get, towards people, the more you realize, that sometimes, you can't stand them, oh, you can be, you can be best of friends, so he moves to your house, or she moves into your house, two friends, girlfriends, two girlfriends, they are old men, we can do everything together, so they started sharing a flat, and then the bills, begin to come, one says that, but you have been, ironing your dress every time, my dress is non-iron, my dress, my dress is non-iron, so, it's you, praise God, so, so,

[46:40] Romans chapter 8, again, did I answer your question, Romans, you have a question, let me take the last two, and I'll try and go, to a bit of Romans, Pastor, can you elaborate, on when you spoke, about the bride of Christ, yeah, what does it mean, he said, when I said about, the bride of Christ, what does it mean, who is a bride, who is a bride, a bride is, someone who is, going to be married, so, Christ is coming, for his bride, in fact, that's a very interesting, question you ask, but, Christ says, I'm coming, for my bride, okay, he's coming for, so, and he's talking, about the church, a bride is there, here comes the bride, the groom is waiting, okay, someone who is, going to get married, to someone, that's the bride, so, the whole, but not individual, we the church, are all, isn't it interesting, we are the body of Christ, we are the bride of Christ, and Christ, the body of Christ, Christ is the head, of the body, so, the head and the body, are one, and yet, we are the bride of Christ, that's a beautiful mystery, but then, when we talk about, a bride, it's someone, who is going to be married, to somebody, and in Revelation,

[47:50] Bible talks about, there's going to be, the lamb's, marriage ceremony, that's when Christ, when Christ is coming back, we are all going to be married, it's like, not all, sorry, we the body of Christ, is going to come for us, as his bride, or he died for us, so, kind of, to become Christ's wife, that's why I said, earlier on that, Christ, because of wife, that's why he came to die, because so he will become, his bride, his wife, does that answer it, last question, then I can go on, so, start again, you said that, we should all love each other, and stuff, but then you said, that we shouldn't love, without hypocrisy, or something like that, but how do you love, that's a good question, that's the question, I'm waiting for, it says that, Bible says, we all love, we should love each other, and at the same time, it said, let love be without hypocrisy, because sometimes, you see the brother, you know actually, you don't like him, I like that, he said, some people, in your estimation, some people are unlovable, oh, you don't know that, the people you can't stand, the people, okay, let me give you a typical example, of someone, that naturally, may look unlovable, someone, who never stops, gossiping about you, always trying to defame, discredit you, scandalize your name, telling people, anywhere you go, by the time the person, gets there, they're going to say, all kinds of things, that you are a thief, you are, and you don't know, what you've done, against this brother, see what I'm saying, sometimes, naturally speaking, you just can't stand this guy, because he's trying to just, mess you up, you are going to look for a job, and when they, when they, before you got there, they say, someone came here, they say, there's someone coming, that person, has been sacked from, has been sacked from his job, previous job, and is it true, where did you used to work, and they find out, that you are really sacked, and the guy messes you up already, you know, it's, so it's like, it's unlovable, but Bible says that, let's assume, such a person, manages to be a Christian, you know, there are all kinds of Christians, there are all kinds of Christians, such a person is a Christian, and he said, you owe the person love, now, her question is that, but how can I love this guy, genuinely, without hypocrisy, is that the question, how can I really love this guy, you see, because we think that love is a feeling, love has not got to do with the way you feel, love is a responsibility, so, you know that, you can't allow your emotions, to make you relate to her, or relate to him, that's why when we come to church, and tell somebody,

[50:35] I love you, in the past, we always have to, qualify it, with the love of God, because people are dangerous, when you say, tell someone, I love you, you don't know what this is going to turn to, so just act at the back, with the love of the Lord, I love, and even if people are so wild, they are able to distill, they are able to distill, from the love of the Lord, put it aside, and say, yeah, you say, I love me, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, it's not got to do, with the way you feel, about people, it has to do, with the Christ, in you, relating to the Christ, in them, and you being conscious, and presenting your body, as a living sacrifice, to God, so that, when they are thirsty, what you do, and you have water, give them to drink, why are you saying that, no, what you did the other time, what's been doing, no, no, it will die out of this thirst, I don't have water, then you pour the rest away, I don't have water, now, I explain the dissimulation, without hypocrisy, I explain actually, to mean that, you are laughing with the person, but you know, you are deceiving the person, to think you laugh, but you don't like the person, that's the actual, there are two different things, there's a situation, where you don't really feel it, but you have to do it, and you are not acting it, you are disciplining yourself, to do it, it's like waking up, to go to work, sometimes you just don't want, to go to work, but some people, don't even want to come, to church at times, and then you get up, to come to church, and then, maybe praise and worship, everybody, let's rise to your feet, you know you don't want to, but you see that, if you don't rise, that people will think, that you are not a serious Christian, so just rise, you know, you are making yourself, that's not deceiving people, which is different from, what they did to Jesus,

[52:15] Judas did to Jesus, he kissed him, I love you Jesus, and he knew in his heart, that this is a case, of hatred, and he's making Jesus, think that it's a case of love, don't do that, don't try, oh come, can I offer you a lift please, I'll offer you a ride, come join me in my car, meanwhile you know, you are, you are, you are harming him, because you are just, offering that, that ride, so that, that opportunity, someone wanted to give you, you know you want to use, a longer route, so that you miss the opportunity, and you are behaving like, oh dad, I'm a Christian, I'm just trying to be nice, you know, there's no niceness, you know you are hurting the person, he said, oh you know, I think we need to, we need to start praying for, Sister Chikwana, you know, Sister Chikwana, has, Sister Chikwana, you know, she was sacked from her job, because she's always, stealing, but I think we should pray for her, I don't even know, what's wrong with her, sometimes I don't know, the way she behaves, and she thinks God will use her, you are, you are clearly gossiping, about this sister, you are trying to discredit her, destroy her, to this other lady, who doesn't know, squawk about her, and in the name of, oh, you know I love her so much, let's pray for her, let's love be without hypocrisy, don't do something else, you know it's not love, and slap the label of love over it,

[53:41] Bible says that, don't do that, it's not a church life, I know you're supposed to love, but if you're loving someone, does it still not mean that, you can't maybe correct, them based on the issue, that you have with them, or do you just say, I'm just going to leave it to God, and pray, that's a good question, and sometimes people think, when we say love, is that you know, the feeling of, there's another part of the, I should have shown you, the five aspects of the Christian life, there's another part, there's another part, where it talks about, be kindly affectionate, with one another, with brotherly kindness, something like that, I think it's just, when we get there, when, you say you love someone, okay, you see when someone says, like me, some of you, there's one or two people, their faces are like this, because, he thinks, pastor is reaching at me, you know,

[54:46] I've seen some, before, it's been some time ago, you know, I've seen that, I said Sharon, is supposed to lead, praise and worship, your dressing is not, you're supposed to do a song, and I said no, Sharon, we can't take this, get down from the stage, I'm doing my work, some of us, your mom, your mom will tell you, so bad, and sometimes, I think my mom is so, it's too much of me, no it's not because, she doesn't love you, she loves you, get the love right, this is not, love doesn't mean, I can't correct you, so sometimes, you know, I've been teaching, forgive people, and all that, and I'm ministering here, and someone is just, messing up, I say my sister, if you don't, correct yourself, if you don't stop misbehaving, we will sack you from this place, and the pastor doesn't laugh, hey, I laugh, I love, tough love, thank you, tough love, mama's love is tough love, you understand what I'm saying, so please, brothers and sisters, brothers and sisters, the other time, I have a friend, I told him, something, recently,

[55:47] I was telling a friend of mine, sometimes, I discovered, that there are some things about us, everybody, that, most of the time, if you are an adult, you are living by yourself, most of the time, people can tell you, let's say, can I use this, if you have bad breath, most times, people can tell you, it's your wife, your wife, or your brother, or your very, very close friend, who can tell you that, brother, I think, have you tried, but every other person, every other person, sees you, and then they, oh hello brother, they can't tell you, they wish they could, but they can't tell you, because it's likely, you will take offense, most of the time, some people, can't take correction, because they will be offended, they will take it so personal, why are you telling me, that the way I have been dressing, is not good, why are you, why are you,

[56:50] I've said here before, wives, listen to your husband, when you do your hairstyle, sometimes, you will come to church, everybody will say, oh this hair, it's not really, completely so, it's just, they are just being, civil, hypocritical, now, okay, don't say, love is without discrimination, so I go, and tell Mr. Johnson, Mr. Johnson, ah, this, your hair is not nice at all, that's the sketches, but the truth is that, we have to be decent, discreet, but, without hypocrisy, is the actual, what is like, I am making you think, I love you, but in my heart, I know I'm lying, I'm deceiving you, see, that, that, that, that, what is, with a deceptive intention, that's what it's talking about, deceptive intention, to pull a wool over the person's eye, and Bible says that, let love be without that, so Bible says love, so don't be trying to, oh you know,

[57:51] I love you, I love you so much, meanwhile, you have a dagger behind you, I love you, when they turn the back, you met, you met him, you met that thing you love, so we began to relax, in your company, like, the one, Deborah, Deborah, who killed Cicely, the Cicely, or, Cicely, in the Bible, the man, enemy general, he was running from the enemies, came to a tent, he said, oh come, come and sit down, come and lie down, go to drink, get people a drink, and he relaxed, and said sleep, and he also fell asleep, and this woman went, and took, a spy, peg, and then, nailed it, through his head, to the ground, so when the, the heroes came, looking for him, I said, oh are you looking for him, come, come, it's in my tent, I've killed him for you, because, the guy thought, he's come to a place, like something, he went to put his head, on Delilah's lap, thinking Delilah's lap, Delilah's lap, something, you know, I love you so much, that wasn't love, she was lying, she's trying to get something, from him,

[58:53] Bible said, let love be, without dissimulation, that's something, God bless you, shall we pray, I want you to pray, and say, God help me, to love, in truth, and in spirit, help me, oh Lord, begin to pray right now, help me, to be a genuine, Christian, and live, the church life, in truth, let's rise to our feet, pray that God, help me, to live the church life, in truth, help me, to live the church life, thank you for listening, for more resources, please visit, caries.org, or call us on, 0207 740 9960, God bless you, haste, matter, I will die,

[59:56] I will die, I will die, I will die, and in spirit, and in spirit, I will die, I will die, and in spirit, I will die, and in spirit, I will die, and in spirit,